May 27th, 2008
10:25 AM ET
11 years ago

Obama supporters planning DNC counter-protest

Both Clinton and Obama supporters are planning to protest outside Saturday's RBC meeting in Washington.

Both Clinton and Obama supporters are planning to protest outside Saturday's RBC meeting in Washington.

WASHINGTON (CNN) - Supporters of Barack Obama’s presidential bid are planning to demonstrate outside the Saturday meeting in Washington where Democratic officials are slated to debate the seating of the Florida and Michigan delegations at the party’s summer convention.

The move comes days after backers of Hillary Clinton’s White House run announced plans to converge on the Washington, D.C. hotel where members of the Democratic National Committee’s Rules and Bylaws Committee are meeting.

“Hillary Clinton's supporters are going to be bussing in protestors for the Rules and Bylaws Committee meeting, so it's critical that we show up for the counter-protest,” wrote on organizer in a post on the Daily Kos Web site Tuesday morning.

Last week, the pro-Clinton Committee to Count Every Vote said it was organizing a day-long May 31 rally outside the RBC meeting.

“Our purpose is not to divide the party or attack the DNC or Senator Obama. Michigan and Florida, however, in addition to Hillary's strong support nationwide, cannot and must not be dismissed in DNC efforts to unify the party.”

The group said it was organizing buses to carry protestors to the meeting site, and could offer some overnight housing for those who could not afford to pay for accommodations.

Earlier this month, Clinton told a group of bloggers who support her candidacy that she encouraged efforts to lobby the committee.

“I thank you for zeroing in on the May 31 meeting. There will be a lot of activity around that meeting,” she said on a conference call, adding that it was “important your voices are heard” by DNC members.

A limited number of seats inside Saturday’s meeting were scheduled to be made available by the DNC at 10 a.m. ET Tuesday – but as of 10 minutes after the hour, all those seats had been claimed. Limited same-day registration will be available as space permits, according to the party’s Web site.

Those who make it inside will have to abide by strict guidelines banning “banners, posters, signs, handouts, and noisemakers of any kind” – and they won’t have a chance to weigh in, since there is no allowance for public comment.

Clinton’s campaign has pushed for both the Florida and Michigan delegations to be seated in full in accordance with the results of their January primaries, which were not sanctioned by the DNC because they were scheduled early in defiance of party instructions. Clinton was the only major candidate to appear on the ballot in Michigan, and won both contests.

The DNC, state Democratic parties and both presidential campaigns have said that they are eager for a compromise that would allow both Florida and Michigan to send delegations to the party’s nominating convention in Denver – but all sides stress that the solution would have to be acceptable to both campaigns.

Obama senior adviser David Axelrod signaled in an interview last week that the Illinois senator might be willing to consider a compromise that would give a slight advantage to Clinton.


Filed under: Candidate Barack Obama • Florida • Hillary Clinton • Michigan
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  1. Another "Coups" for the Ax!

    Axelrod has done it all! Every opinion Obama expresses is orchestrated by Axelrod - that's why you'll rarely see Obama say anything substantive off-the-cuff . The "Obama Phenomenon" is a carefully crafted public relations event - and it started long go.

    DO THE RESEARCH YOURSELF IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT – IT'S NOT HARD TO COME BY:

    Example: For four years Axelrod had camera crews tracking virtually everything Obama has done in public — chatting up World War II vets in southern IL, visiting his father’s ancestral village in Kenya — and often camera crews outnumbered the civilians. He found a grainy, C-Span-style shot of Obama talking about homelessness on the floor of the IL state Senate, which he quickly used to establish Obama’s prior political experience.

    Before that, Axelrod was mostly visible in Chicago the last decade as Mayor Daley’s public relations strategist - the guy who goes on TV to defend Daley from charges of corruption.

    Axelrod also operates a second business, ASK Public Strategies. This company discreetly plots strategy and advertising campaigns for corporate clients to shift public opinion their way. He and his partners consider virtually everything about ASK to be “top secret.”

    So when you vote for Obama, you'll really be voting for Axelrod. Good Luck!

    May 27, 2008 11:40 am at 11:40 am |
  2. Dee Okla.

    Why do we even bother having rules? Why scream now and not when the ruling was first made? Where was all that "every vote must count"?

    May 27, 2008 11:40 am at 11:40 am |
  3. Rezko Found Guilty

    What will Barry do now? LOL!

    May 27, 2008 11:40 am at 11:40 am |
  4. Ray H in Gainesville VA

    I don't know if half the Sen Clinton supporters on these blogs are really supporters or just folks fanning the flame. But if you are a supporter of hers, I'm sick and tired of your threats to vote for Sen McCain if Sen Obama gets the Dem ticket. If you feel so strongly that he stole the election, which he did not do, than you go right ahead and vote for McCain or stay home...I for one don't give a rats behind. You will live with your decision over the next 4 years and if the country goes further in the tank, don't blame McCain, don't blame Sen Obama, don't blame anyone, but YOURSELF. The reason alot of his supporters are pissed off is because of the campaign that Sen Clinton has run. You can only take so much and than you get pissed off and speak your mind. AGAIN, if you folks want to sit home on election day or vote for Sen McCain out of spite than just do it and shut the hell up. Sen Obama is ahead in the DELEGATE count which is which is the deciding factor in the dem nominating process...NOT THE POPULAR VOTE. Stop trying to change all the rules just so your candidate can win. How is that fair? Please, tell me how that is fair? Is this how this country should be run. Shoot, lets just throw out the constitution why don't we. It is time to unite the party.

    May 27, 2008 11:40 am at 11:40 am |
  5. Awful

    Good Job Dems... Good Job America..... Lets elect a person for president that has less experience then Jimmy Carter and Bush.... The other two worked out great this one should be even better....
    GREAT.......

    Moving to Canada

    May 27, 2008 11:40 am at 11:40 am |
  6. No more Clintons

    The Clinton's Legacy:

    Monica Lewinsky, Paula Jones, Gennifer Flowers, Whitewater, the White House travel office firings, White House coffees and Lincoln bedroom stays for donors, FBI background files on Republicans, missing documents and the presidential pardon of a fugitive friend.

    Anyone But Hillary!

    May 27, 2008 11:40 am at 11:40 am |
  7. rory

    Kathy-–How do you Know this is true?Is this your opinion or do you hav eemperical knowledge of this? Help me understand how you Know.

    May 27, 2008 11:40 am at 11:40 am |
  8. Phil - Chesterton, IN

    I know how Hillary can recover the money she's lent herself over the course of her campaign. If she were to market the kool-aid she's been serving her supporters, (which has apparently worked), she'll make billions!

    How can even her most avid supporters not see that this is no longer about America, "the people", or even about Florida and Michigan – states which didn't matter in her eyes until 4 months ago. It's about Hillary, and what Hillary wants. Maybe she figures that, with the dismissing of the constitution by the current administration, it might be a good time to usher in the dictatorship she so clearly desires.

    Hillary 08 (would be a horrible day for America)

    OBAMA 08 IS THE CHOICE FOR THE REAL VOICE

    May 27, 2008 11:40 am at 11:40 am |
  9. Angel

    Bad idea..... counter protest against people in the 4th and 8th largest state that want their votes to count. Just what we need to win people over in November. Who's smart idea was this????

    May 27, 2008 11:40 am at 11:40 am |
  10. james, el paso

    Obama has not blocked a resolution at any point, where are people getting their misinformation from, probably from the Clinton campaign, thank god I'm an independent, I would be embarrased to be a Democrat right now! First off, his campaign is willing to give her a majority of delegates in both states, even if that number is 51% that's not bad considering Obama wasn't even on the ballot yet 40% of the voting public in Michigan actually chose undecided, who do you think they were going to vote for? Not to mention Hillary has tried to push more out of the count then makes sense, such as counting the popular vote. That's just ridiculous, it would be like the Lakers playing the Bulls and the Lakers don't make it to the game because of a horrible storm, so the Bulls shoot one basket and claim a victory, it doesn't make sense. I say seat the delegates with a margin of 60% – 40% in favor of Hillary, even though it wouldn't go that way for her in that State, and leave out popular vote numbers. BTW, if you want to play that game I have friends in Europe who love Barack Obama, why not count there votes as part of the popular vote for Barack Obama, that makes just as much sense.

    May 27, 2008 11:40 am at 11:40 am |
  11. Nick

    As an Obama supporter I am not afraid of Florida and Michigan voting if the situation were fair, but it isnt.

    Florida was a beauty contest that was only based on name recognition whereas Michigan didnt even have a chance to vote for Obama.

    The name Clinton is the most well-known and powerful in democratic politics and for her to claim that the vote in Florida was reasonable without people having the opportunity to get to know Obama is ludacris.

    Michigan should go 50%-50% and just to appease Clinton voters give them 55%-45% or 53%-47%, but no more.

    That would be fair and just based on what happened!

    May 27, 2008 11:40 am at 11:40 am |
  12. aware

    The DNC has, so far, demonstrated the willingness and ability to canabalize a candidate (Hillary Clinton). It has lost credibility and severely damaged the Dem. brand! 😦

    Obama is way too far left for the majority of Americans and will never win the General Election.

    The Dems no longer deserve to be supported, and if they are foolish enough to make Obama their nominee, I will leave the party.

    Hillary Clinton 2008 and 2012 or John McCain 08! 🙂

    May 27, 2008 11:40 am at 11:40 am |
  13. MP

    I have always been a great supporter of the democratic process in this country. The issue here is that both Michigan and Florida had their results discounted because they were not very good at reading a calendar.....How hard can it be to recognize when you are allowed to hold a party primary. I mean honestly, did Flordia and Michigan WANT to create this mess for our country? You absolutely cannot count Michigan as Obama didn't even have his name on the ballot there....for good reason. Their vote wasn't going to count. As for Florida, I am all for them finding a way to seat those delegates....at least Obama's name was on the ticket there. As for Clinton's charge about people bullying the superdelegates into voting.....let's not forget you guys have been playing it exactly the same way....pot....kettle....black.

    May 27, 2008 11:41 am at 11:41 am |
  14. BUBBLES

    IT'S OK FOR FL AND MI TO HAVE THERE SAY, IT'S OK FOR HILLARY TO GET THERE DELEGATES COUNTED, IT'S OK FOR HILLARY TO ACT LIKE THIS BECAUSE SHE IS LOSING. THE DNC WILL NOT GIVE HER MORE FL AND MI DELEGATES TO CHANGE THE OUTCOME AND OBAMA WILL STILL BE THE NOMINEE. HILLARY AND BILL HAVE COMPLETLY LOST SIGHT OF WHY SHE STARTED HER RUN FOR THE WHITE HOUSE AND NOW BECAUSE SHE IS LOSING, IT IS ALL ABOUT HER AND NOT ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY ANYMORE. THE NOMINEE IS NOT CHOSEN BY POPULAR VOTE, IT IS CHOSEN BY THE NUMBER OF DELEGATES AND SUPERDELEGATES. PLEASE HILLARY, GET OVER IT AND START GETTING BEHIND THE WINNER AND UNITE OUR PARTY SO WE CAN MAKE A STRONG CASE TO BEAT MCCAIN.

    HILLARY, STOP WHINNING AND DO THE GROWN UP AND BEST THING FOR YOUR PARTY!!!!!!!!!!!

    OBAMA 2008 : – )

    May 27, 2008 11:41 am at 11:41 am |
  15. mike k

    The Clinton campaign can't deny that if Obama had campaigned in Florida and Michigan that the numbers would be different. At the time of the primaries in those states he was relatively unknown.

    They also can't deny that Hillary signed the papers saying that they shouldn't count – and then stated it to the national public.

    And they can't deny that McAuliff is one of the original brokers for not counting those states.

    For the DNC to even consider this is cowardly and idiotic. The Obama people were told the rules – and they have played by them.

    The Clinton people constantly change the metrics. Why? Because they are losing – no other reason. That is the reason she didn't fight early – she thought the nomination was a shoe-in – but now she is desperate and this is her last shot at the White House.

    Hillary, Bill – Stop your whining! Or maybe you put it better, Bill – 'Politics is a contact sport. If you don't want to get hit, then take your uniform off.'

    May 27, 2008 11:41 am at 11:41 am |
  16. GERALD STROTHER

    5 MORE DAYS AND OBAMA HAS IT GO OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE NEEDS 49 MORE SHE NEEDS 260 MORE ONLY 87 MORE TO GET MATH 101 HAS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    May 27, 2008 11:41 am at 11:41 am |
  17. Realistic

    Just hold up a sign: HILLARY AGREED TO EXCLUDE MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA

    Clinton / Lewinsky '12

    May 27, 2008 11:41 am at 11:41 am |
  18. Abby

    Lets see who’ll have the bigger crowd! Hehe 🙂 Oh, Yes We Can!!!!!

    May 27, 2008 11:42 am at 11:42 am |
  19. Kim

    It's funny; as I sat and watched recount last evening, it reminded me of how I felt during that time. I was so pissed off and I thought to myself why did I even bother to vote if my vote did not count, and here we are almost eight years later and the DNC has allowed itself to get in a position where they are disenfranchising voters how
    ironic I cannot believe that they did not think about this when they decided to disenfranchise the voters in MI and FL instead of penalizing the state party with some type of fine or something, it should have never even come to a discussion about the people loosing their right to vote and have it count, this is their fault and their fault only. The candidates should not have even been asked to sign off on this mess. I am done with the DEMS after 22 years I have realized that they are not the party of the people, they had the nerve to send me a survey/donation letter, I kindly told them about themselves and exactly where they could go. They tried to use Hillary's name on the letter because they got my name from her donor list, which will not work, not now not ever. This movie reminded me of just what these people in these two states probably feel about their voices and their votes not being counted, it is a miscarriage of justice and democracy

    May 27, 2008 11:42 am at 11:42 am |
  20. JJ

    This entire situation is just a mess and it is further pushing the division between the party. I don't care what anyone says, this party is divided and I'm not too confident it can be repaired unless a fair comprise is presented to both Obama and Clinton.

    The way Clinton wants it, is not fair and Obama is just taking a back seat to see what the resolution is that the DNC will come up with. This is just a shame!

    May 27, 2008 11:42 am at 11:42 am |
  21. Dan Lee

    TO ALL OF THE UNEDUCATED SUPPORTERS OF QUEEN HILLARY

    October 2007: "It's clear that this election they're having [in Michigan] is not going to count for anything," Hillary Clinton during an interview with New Hampshire Public Radio in
    August 2007: Clinton adviser Harold Ickes voted to strip the rogue states (Michigan & Florida) of their delegates as a member of the DNC's Rules and Bylaws committee – "to prevent the gaming of the system,"
    September 2007: Patti Solis Doyle, Former Clinton's campaign manager, pledged not to compete in either contest -. "We believe Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina play a unique and special role in the nominating process... and the DNC's rules and its calendar provide the necessary structure to respect and honor that role," "Thus, we will... adhere to the DNC-approved nominating calendar."
    January 2004: Former DNC chairman–and current Clinton aide–Terry McAuliffe: "If I allow you to do that, the whole system collapses," (According to his memoir)."The closest [Michigan's delegates will] get to Boston will be watching it on television. I will not let you break this entire nominating process for one state. The rules are the rules.

    DO YOU ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS REALLY MEANS?

    May 27, 2008 11:42 am at 11:42 am |
  22. Debbie in Louisiana

    Why aren't we talking about Florida and Michigan ELECTED State Officals, the ones that caused all this mess? Obama didn't do this!!!! He just obey the rules he doesn't try to break them. This is what we need in a President.

    May 27, 2008 11:42 am at 11:42 am |
  23. Kathy

    CNN.............update your count on Road to the White House!! It is so annoying. Susan Maveau reported this moring he only needs 49. I agree with others,that even when OBAMA gets 2026 you guys won`t be reporting it!

    On Michigan and Florida. Sure the votes should count. Everyone wants the votes to count. Even OBAMA! But they need to be counted fairly, not just given to Clinton as if she had won they outright in a legitimate primary. There are plenty of people that would have voted if they had not been told their votes would not count. This is not Russia...you can not have a election with only one candidate on the ballot!! There is no need for all the negative and disrespectful comments from both the Clinton and OBAMA camps, but here does need to be unity in November. WE CANNOT AFFORD MCCAIN.

    OBAMA 08

    May 27, 2008 11:42 am at 11:42 am |
  24. Tony-MN

    A further fracturing or breaking of the Democratic Party. Including Florida and Michigan Delegates to count in the primaries is nothing short of cheating and no argument by Clinton or her supporters can change that fact. Changing the rules to benefit you is "CHEATING" plain and simple.

    Please leave the emotional blackmail argument of disenfranchised voters of Florida and Michigan to the uneducated, making less than $50k Clinton Supporters, that is all they have to argue with. Logic, economic comfortability, educated persons are "kryptonite" to them.

    May 27, 2008 11:42 am at 11:42 am |
  25. Judy, South Carolina

    I hope the DNC seat the delegates and divide the delegates but not give Hillary Clinton what she wants. It is time this country stand up to Bill and Hillary who has made an empire off of the American People. Bill needs to sit down with his cheating self and HIllary with her lies. How can people support such pathetic people who will do anything to get their way. I hope this doesn't happen to this DNC. You don't change rules to suit the other party at such late game.

    May 27, 2008 11:43 am at 11:43 am |
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