May 28th, 2008
11:27 AM ET
10 years ago

Clinton says she expects lead in popular vote, primary delegates


Clinton is stepping up her argument to superdelegates. (AP Photo)

EN ROUTE TO KYLE, South Dakota (CNN) - In a letter sent to superdelegates Wednesday, Hillary Clinton contends neither she nor Senator Barack Obama will have the required number of delegates to clinch the nomination after Montana and South Dakota vote next Tuesday, leaving it up to party insiders to put one of them over the top.

“When the primaries are finished, I expect to lead in the popular vote and in delegates earned through primaries … I hope you will consider not just the strength of the coalition backing me, but also that more people will have cast their votes for me,” she wrote, as she continued to press her case that the race was far from over.

Read Clinton's letter and memo to the undecided superdelegates [PDFs]

Clinton, who has not fared well in most caucus votes this year, has dismissed results from those states for much of the campaign, saying the method disenfranchises too many voters.

In addition to the letter, the Clinton campaign also sent along “electoral and polling” analysis - including an electoral map analysis from Karl Rove and Co. - showing her in a better position to take on the Republican nominee in November. The packet was sent to superdelegates in advance of Saturday’s meeting of the DNC’s Rules and Bylaws committee where the fate of the Florida and Michigan delegations will be decided.

“We have not gone through this exciting, unprecedented, historic election only to lose,” Clinton told a crowd in Billings, Montana Tuesday. “Based on every analysis of every bit of research and every poll that’s been taken and every state that a Democrat has to win, I am the stronger candidate against John McCain this fall.”

Several weeks ago, her campaign sent a similar analysis of her electoral strength in tough congressional districts to Democratic members of Congress and other superdelegates.

Wednesday morning, Clinton took a brief tour of Mount Rushmore before heading out on a two-day swing across South Dakota. When asked by reporters whether she could see either herself or former President Bill Clinton added to the monument, she rolled her eyes and semi-playfully urged reporters to “go learn something” about the majestic structure.

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  1. VT in Atlanta

    Don't be fooled by the rhetoric - Hillary doesn't have any supporters that are stupid enough to fall for her crap.

    These blogs that cite past failed democratic presidential races and accuse Obama of stealing the election are posted by HILLARY'S CAMPAIGN.


    GO OBAMA!!!

    May 28, 2008 01:22 pm at 1:22 pm |
  2. Nia

    So desinfranchise votes that aren't favoring me, Count the ones that are, and bend the rules to other votes give me the advantage. She signed off on the Rules as they stood and when Mi and FL broke the Rules she agaiin agreed to not count them. Now all of a sudden she wants to count them in an effort to ensure the people are heard...yeah right...more like she needs the votes

    May 28, 2008 01:23 pm at 1:23 pm |
  3. snn

    I just don't understand, is she delusional?? She cannot be ahead in elected delegates. Or perhaps, is she just misspeaking again?

    She'll do anything to win. Even taking the nomination to the convention floor...... Then the Democratics will have NO chance of winning!! Has she no shame?

    snn seattle

    May 28, 2008 01:23 pm at 1:23 pm |
  4. Kris

    I dont know where her numbers come from but at this point she is being very very difficult. She is causing more harm to her party and doing so in selfish ways. She is hard headed and lies all the time. It is what ever the new fad is with her. I dont know how many times she has had to go on record to correct some story she told. She reminds me of mother goose. Or the kid that will say anything to get people to think they are cool. She is probably a really nice person. But again. At this time she is doing nothing but causing more problems. She is dividing the demacratic party. Think about it this way. Hell the statement above pretty much states if Obama wins there is no point in going to the polls cause the demacratic party wont win. Whats the point of voting if you already know your going to lose. This type of negetivity is what is going to cause the democrats to loose in November if they do. And personally I would blame most of it on Hilary. The one person who thinks it is ok to bend the rules half way through the game. Michigan and Florida were told before they held ealy elections that they would lose thier deligates. They moved forward and held the caucuses any ways. Now they wish to have the rules bent for them. Ahh no. Daaa. Or well you know I should go out and steel a bunch of stuff and have a group of people join me and when we get arrested please change the law so that it does not effect me. That way all Americans get the picture that we dont have to follow rules or laws. Get ready for blood bath cause now we have no reason to follow laws cause we can just change them to fit our needs.


    May 28, 2008 01:23 pm at 1:23 pm |
  5. Mike, Syracuse NY

    mr. g. If you are refering to the 2000 FL election, your facts are bogus. A consortium of newspapers completed the FL recount stopped by the US Supreme Court, and Bush still won. SO GET OVER IT ALREADY! There is every likelihood that Clinton will end up leading in the popular vote if all votes, including FL, MI and caucus votes are counted. In 2000 Gore said 'count all the votes'. So which is it? Do you want all votes counted, or just counted some of the time? Your precious Obama is so fond of talking to North Korea, Cuba, Iran and Hamas. So how about he demonstrate his diplomatic skills by sitting down with Hillary first? If he can't negotiate a mutually agreeable solution for FL and Mi within his own party, he'll never negotiate anything with America's enemies.

    May 28, 2008 01:23 pm at 1:23 pm |
  6. Ted

    CNN you failed to mention that several big named Demorcrats raised the money back in March to let Florida and Michigan have a revote .But Obama campaign would not sign off on it .So you and the Obama idiots need to quit acting like someone is changing the rules !!! I live in Florida and I want all the votes to count .The last I looked Florida is in the United States !!!! Count the votes !!!!!!!!!

    May 28, 2008 01:23 pm at 1:23 pm |
  7. Corey Gabriel

    It both amazes and scares me how little some of the posters here really know about the events and truth. Many of them just make stuff up that has already been debunked as untruthful mis-statements, yet they continue to believe and spout it. The ignorant people in this County will get what they deserve in this election, just like they got Bush for two terms because they failed to see through his smear and fear tactics of untruth, which is exactly what both Hilary and McSame are doing in this election. The lack of their supporters' education and knowledge, and their "true believer" attitudes is really scary for the future of this Country.

    May 28, 2008 01:23 pm at 1:23 pm |
  8. Nicole in NE

    What really bothers me is this "POPULAR" vote argument! I showed up at my caucus and stood there for 2+ hours to support my candidate!

    Why in this math are we so worried about disenfranchising MI & FL, but not the thousands of people who voted in their caucuses? THAT IS DISENFRANCHISING US!

    Don't say you want every vote to count, if that is NOT actually the case!

    May 28, 2008 01:23 pm at 1:23 pm |
  9. Victoria

    “We have not gone through this exciting, unprecedented, historic election only to lose”

    Yeah well, somebody has to lose. This times it happens to be HRC. Go back, regroup, and try later.

    No disgrace in that.

    May 28, 2008 01:23 pm at 1:23 pm |
  10. Rb

    all I can say is can you imagne her as President. Note to Baby Boomers, we know your generation has A LOT of issues – the Clintons/Bushes/McCains are the poster children of slimy. This country would be torn apart if she were President – amazing how God's will gets done in the long run.

    May 28, 2008 01:23 pm at 1:23 pm |
  11. Hillary NO VP /no pres.

    Hey CNN is McClinton all you have in your news bag today ?
    Ship -Hil-liar to MARS
    Her pant suits will blend in well with that landscape and the plus when she opens her pie hole and spreads more lies no one will have to listen she could also be president of MARS!!!!

    Up date the polls so we can see how well Obama is doing for 08/12

    We know he is the winner .

    May 28, 2008 01:24 pm at 1:24 pm |
  12. Norb

    When she was the front runner she and her campaign didn't care about the caucus process as they thought they would be the eventual nominee of their party. However, they didn't realize how well organized Obama's camp was at the "game". Nor did the Clinton campaign worry about Florida or Michigan until now for that matter. They got beat fair and square to a team that took them head on and beat them. Her saying "I'm in it to win it" didn't do much to scare others off. Time to quit Hillary.

    May 28, 2008 01:24 pm at 1:24 pm |
  13. Gary Chandler in Canada

    55 % for her in MI and 0% for Obama is the ONLY math that gives her a PV lead. Obama needs an allocation of a measly, improbable 10% in MI to retake the lead in the PV. Why do you even print articles like this without showing the statistics?
    FLA 'as is' 49.8 % for Clinton, 33% for Obama, a 55 35 clinton obama split in MI, plus the polling in Mo and SD has Obama winning the PV by anywhere from 200,000 to 1/2 million.
    FLA and MI is redundant, Obama has sewn up the popular vote, with anything above 0% in MI!

    May 28, 2008 01:24 pm at 1:24 pm |
  14. M-Denver

    I live in a caucas state and I believe that a primary would be better, however we have now had county conventions, state conventions and congressional district conventions and guess what Obama won all of those by 2 to 1 votes. Get over it and get on with it!

    May 28, 2008 01:24 pm at 1:24 pm |
  15. Fred

    I admire her tenacity but not her sense of honor. The Clintons ambition is totally self-serving, not a virture for an elected representative.

    Lok at Florida for example. Even if the rules committee contradicted itself and included Florida if the majority of Edwards votes go to Obama she doesn't pick up a ton of delegates. I don't know how to count Michigan without Obama on the ballot. Obama still wins the majority of delegates and the nomination based on the results.

    She does have an argument with the supers as she appears to be the stronger general election candiadte at the moment. However, they defy the delegate results at their own peril.

    I think most superdelegates are tired of and truned off by this adventure and are ready to drive the nail in Hiallry's gamey amition.

    May 28, 2008 01:24 pm at 1:24 pm |
  16. Garyville, LA Girl

    This article is trivial in the grand scheme of things. The larger issue is that Clinton supporters would rather support McCain (or not vote, which is just the same) than to vote for Obama.

    May 28, 2008 01:24 pm at 1:24 pm |
  17. racy Collins

    She agreed FL and MI would not count if they held earlier primaries. Later, when she realizes that Obama had out-organized, out-planned, out-financed, just totally finessed her, the elistists that the Clintons, are demands that the rules be changed to favor the Clintons. Very. Poor. Sportship. Not racist, not sexist, just common cheats.

    May 28, 2008 01:24 pm at 1:24 pm |
  18. norma

    You people who bash Hillary should be ashamed of yourselves for treating a human like you have done. It seems like Obama supporters aren't so intellingent, they just want a black man in there, and don't care how the country is ran.

    May 28, 2008 01:24 pm at 1:24 pm |
  19. Bob Stephens

    Hillary , you are annoying, untruthful, and can't count.......

    May 28, 2008 01:24 pm at 1:24 pm |
  20. The O

    Hey Heferly it's the delegates that count. say what you want to say you have still lost, get over it get out of it and move on!!!!!!


    BARACK THE VOTE!!!!!!!!

    May 28, 2008 01:25 pm at 1:25 pm |
  21. Rebecca

    She is now getting out of hand. She is cherry picking any data that will help her out and leaving out data that doesn't help her. Clinton and her supporters are CHERRY PICKERS. Knock it off, you are all truly becoming more and more dillusional every day. Quit digging a hole that you can't get yourselves out of. The Clintons are ruining there names if they haven't already. How will she be able to go back to Washington after this is all said and done. There will be so many people upset with her for misleading and lying only to support her personal cause.

    May 28, 2008 01:25 pm at 1:25 pm |
  22. Lisa

    She thinks PR "popular" vote counts more than CO, WA, IO and others who have voted for Obama; even though the Federal government doesn't permit PR to even vote in the general election.

    May 28, 2008 01:25 pm at 1:25 pm |
  23. Don for Obama

    Wow, quoting Karl Rove, from what I know, the popular vote does not

    count in November, so why should that be her sole argument, will she be

    telling McCain to give up the presidency in November if she won the

    popular vote and lost the electoral college votes?

    May 28, 2008 01:25 pm at 1:25 pm |
  24. Sonya

    GO HILLARY!!! You are the only one true democratic candidate in this race. Hillary is the most intelligent, she had REAL solutions and she is not the dirty poltitcian the BO is. He is an insult to America. How can anyone stand behind a person for President who is an UNPATRIOTIC ans he is? You Obamabots are insane.
    Hillary will ultimately win this nomination and BO can go back to doing his dirty dealings with old Rezzie!!

    May 28, 2008 01:25 pm at 1:25 pm |
  25. OldUncleTom

    OK, give the lady her due... she has more first downs, and more offensive yards....

    What's the score?

    May 28, 2008 01:26 pm at 1:26 pm |
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