May 28th, 2008
11:27 AM ET
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Clinton says she expects lead in popular vote, primary delegates

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Clinton is stepping up her argument to superdelegates. (AP Photo)

EN ROUTE TO KYLE, South Dakota (CNN) - In a letter sent to superdelegates Wednesday, Hillary Clinton contends neither she nor Senator Barack Obama will have the required number of delegates to clinch the nomination after Montana and South Dakota vote next Tuesday, leaving it up to party insiders to put one of them over the top.

“When the primaries are finished, I expect to lead in the popular vote and in delegates earned through primaries … I hope you will consider not just the strength of the coalition backing me, but also that more people will have cast their votes for me,” she wrote, as she continued to press her case that the race was far from over.

Read Clinton's letter and memo to the undecided superdelegates [PDFs]

Clinton, who has not fared well in most caucus votes this year, has dismissed results from those states for much of the campaign, saying the method disenfranchises too many voters.

In addition to the letter, the Clinton campaign also sent along “electoral and polling” analysis - including an electoral map analysis from Karl Rove and Co. - showing her in a better position to take on the Republican nominee in November. The packet was sent to superdelegates in advance of Saturday’s meeting of the DNC’s Rules and Bylaws committee where the fate of the Florida and Michigan delegations will be decided.

“We have not gone through this exciting, unprecedented, historic election only to lose,” Clinton told a crowd in Billings, Montana Tuesday. “Based on every analysis of every bit of research and every poll that’s been taken and every state that a Democrat has to win, I am the stronger candidate against John McCain this fall.”

Several weeks ago, her campaign sent a similar analysis of her electoral strength in tough congressional districts to Democratic members of Congress and other superdelegates.

Wednesday morning, Clinton took a brief tour of Mount Rushmore before heading out on a two-day swing across South Dakota. When asked by reporters whether she could see either herself or former President Bill Clinton added to the monument, she rolled her eyes and semi-playfully urged reporters to “go learn something” about the majestic structure.


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  1. Hillary Math

    And then the Superdelegates go..."Duhhhhh...I dunno...I guess that makes since."

    1. Count Florida and Michigan (even though you yourself said they shouldn't count, and there was no campaign there, and Barack wasn't even on the ballot in one of them.

    2. Through out Iowa, Maine, Washington and Nevada (even though they haven't done anything wrong, and your suppose to be the big defender of "count every vote."

    3. Do count Puerto Rico (even though they can't vote in the general)

    4. Then determine the winner by "popular vote" (as defined above) instead of delegate count (even though that is like calling the winner the one with the most hits instead of the one with the most runs)

    Only the Clintons and magical amazing spin machine could alter the puplic perception of reality to this extent. This is easy people...Barack is the winner....get over it!

    May 28, 2008 01:07 pm at 1:07 pm |
  2. Glenn

    Hillary has completely lost her mind. What an ego! What a clown!

    May 28, 2008 01:07 pm at 1:07 pm |
  3. Kenneth

    Wow! Everyday time she sees herself falling further behind, she comes up with new rules for the game that always benefit her. I wish she would quit before I lose what remaining respect I have for her.

    May 28, 2008 01:07 pm at 1:07 pm |
  4. white middle aged woman FOR OBAMA

    When is she going to go away ?.

    May 28, 2008 01:07 pm at 1:07 pm |
  5. Lynne

    Er, I'm not sure which paper SHE's reading, but all I've seen show Obama clearly ahead in states won, popular vote (yes, caucus votes count), pledge delegates and super delegates.

    If she's more electable, why did she lose this primary?

    Is she taking medication?

    May 28, 2008 01:07 pm at 1:07 pm |
  6. John

    well, Hillary is right on this important fact. She is leading, and she will be an excellent two-term president!

    May 28, 2008 01:08 pm at 1:08 pm |
  7. roger in va

    HILLARY HAS BECOME PITIFUL. A FLORIDA JUDGE THREW OUT THE SUIT AGAINST THE DNC TODAY AND SAID POLITICAL PARTIES HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE THEIR OWN RULES AND THE DNC HAS SAID THE COMMITTEE MEETING FRIDAY CAN ONLY AGREE TO SEAT A PORTION OF DELEGATES. EVEN IF SHE WON ALL OF FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN SHE WOULD STILL BE BEHIND. SHE IS DOING SUCH AN INJUSTICE TO WOMEN AND HURTING THEIR CHANCES IN THE FUTURE.

    May 28, 2008 01:08 pm at 1:08 pm |
  8. Shawn

    Clinton supporter:

    "I will never vote for Obama because he is black and has no experience.

    Even though I'm democrat and even though Obama and Clinton's policies are nearly identical, I will vote for McCain.

    I will vote for 100 more years of Iraq, $10 per gallon gas, overturning of roe vs wade, and other good stuff

    And all because Obama supporters are mean!"

    (end sacrasm)

    is there any surprise why this country is in a sad state?

    May 28, 2008 01:08 pm at 1:08 pm |
  9. Venus

    Ha,ha,ha,ha,aaaahhh! I am loving this!

    She knows this is her last big week in the news!

    Next week this time – Obama's supporters will be dancing in the streets! As a matter of fact – we will be dancing all the way to the white house come Jan/09!

    Great to see a rookie bring down the Clinton Machine!

    Go Obama!

    May 28, 2008 01:08 pm at 1:08 pm |
  10. Robert

    Let me get this straight, Hillary: the voices of the people must be heard, BUT only if they are in states that have a primary AND it's a priimary you win. People in caucus states don't matter because they don't like you as much.

    So basically, you win the nomination - as long as the Democratic party ignores the rules (that you agreed to), and ignores all the caucus states, and considers opinion polls conducted in May be to be equivalent to results of a general election that will be held half a year from now. Huh???

    May 28, 2008 01:08 pm at 1:08 pm |
  11. Tim in NC

    Yes, clearly a voting system where the votes of all persons voting count toward the two major candidates makes people REALLY feel like their votes are wasted...

    May 28, 2008 01:08 pm at 1:08 pm |
  12. Chuck R

    The count today of delegates ELECTED IN PRIMARY ELECTIONS IS

    Clinton 1329

    Obama 1322

    That is the facts. His entire lead is from those who have been able to attend caucuses. She has won the primaries where the voters get to decide and he has won the caucus state. It is just the facts.

    May 28, 2008 01:08 pm at 1:08 pm |
  13. Time to move on

    Its not a joke,this woman needs help.
    OBAMA 08

    May 28, 2008 01:08 pm at 1:08 pm |
  14. h in cali

    as a liberal, I usually dont have a lot of kind words to share on Reagan, but one thing he got absolutely right was his 11th commandment, which is a great rule to follow no matter what party you are in: You don't speak ill of your fellow party members.

    Both sides have taken some shots, but really, Clinton cannot come out and say the Obama is going to lose just as he is about to clinch the nomination and launch the GE. In fact a lot of her comments about him have been way out of line. That's not what a party loyalist does.

    Clinton needs to attack McSame and show she is a fighter THAT way – A lot more people -including Obamites-would respect her if she could just do THAT. But I don't see how any good Democrat except for a few of her more rapid and unreasonable supporters can see anything good in the way she is handling the situation. If she thinks its so important that the Dems win against McSame, why doesn't she do what would at this point almost garantees a Dem win: suspend the campaign and support the hell out of Obama -who is polling ahead of McSame in OH in a lot of polls and picking off Red states in the west and who is winning in IA -if he wins OH, IA, NM & CO it's an electoral college blow out. OF COARSE OBAMA CAN WIN -SHUT UP HILLARY AND GET BEHIND OUR DEM CANDIDATE!!!!!!

    May 28, 2008 01:08 pm at 1:08 pm |
  15. linda hemmingsen

    hillary is right , she would win the election she has won the batteground states and swing states that you need to win for the election. obama has lots of caucases but the turnout for those are small and a lot of corruption went on with the over zealous obama supporters they have tapes and they have complaints that should be brought at the convention to show how they should never have caucases again.

    May 28, 2008 01:08 pm at 1:08 pm |
  16. Ryan

    What? It is mathematically impossible for her to receive a majority of pledged delegates even with MI and FL.

    There are 399 delegates left in MI, FL, PR, SD, and MO

    Obama needs 122 to get the majority, Clinton needs 284.

    In Fl, if seated as is, Clinton would receive 105, Obama 67, Edwards 13. Two of Edwards have already commited to Obama if they are seated (and more probably will eventually). So Clinton 105, Obama 69, Edwards 11.

    In MI, if seated as is, Clinton would receive 73, and 18 of the uncommited have already pledged their support for Obama. So that would mean Obama has 87 total from MI and FL, Clinton 178.

    So Clinton still needs 106, but there are only a remaining 86 delegates. Most of the uncommited and Edwards delegates would end up with Obama so there is no way she can get a majority even in a best case scenario.

    May 28, 2008 01:08 pm at 1:08 pm |
  17. Kristin from Dallas

    Clinton claims she will be ahead in pledged delegates after the next three primaries. How can she gain 160+ pledged delegates when there are only 86 or so pledged delegates left? How can she and Bill convince that many pledged delegates to switch sides. I must be missing something, because the math again doesn't work.

    May 28, 2008 01:09 pm at 1:09 pm |
  18. trellskig

    This is exactly why it's time for change...Obama 08/12

    May 28, 2008 01:09 pm at 1:09 pm |
  19. Julie

    Hillary DOES have the popular vote, but according to our system, that ain't going to count, so what happens now? Well, for one, Obama is now trying to court states like New Mexico whose popular vote went for Hillary. Well, Mr. Obama, as a citizen of New Mexico and one who voted for Hillary, stay in this state as long as you want, maybe spend some money, but there is NOTHING you can do that will sway me to your side, nothing that will discourage me from voting for McCain if Hillary loses, and NOTHING that will stop me from trying to persuade other Democratic voters in this state to stay away from you.

    May 28, 2008 01:09 pm at 1:09 pm |
  20. Maggie VT

    Gee, I think Hillary Clinton has a very very questionable background. Obama is a CHRISTAIN. She has been trashing the caucus's for months now. Think it is time for a petition to get started to somehow get those popular votes counted and see what she says then!!!! Obama did not block the re-vote!!!! Hillary Clintons supporters, Rendell, Carville, and Corzine were going to pay for it. Does anyone think this would have been a fair re-vote????

    May 28, 2008 01:09 pm at 1:09 pm |
  21. Rob Johnson

    The rules of this process were created by people like Terry McAuliffe and Harold Ickes–people who WORK FOR HILLARY. Not just Hillary supporters, but people who are actually on her payroll.

    Who would set up a process that is rigged against their boss? Why would they throw away their chance at a fat job in the next Clinton administration? It just doesn't make sense.

    If this election was rigged for anybody, it was rigged for Hillary. Moving Super Tuesday up to February, for example, was a blatant attempt to clinch the deal for Hillary before the other candidates could overcome her advantage in fundraising and name recognition.

    Unfortunately, her campaign was so incompetent they couldn't even win a fixed race–possibly a first in the history of electoral politics.

    May 28, 2008 01:09 pm at 1:09 pm |
  22. Independent

    Molly,

    Obama didnt block revotes. Florida chose not to revote, and he did not approve of the changes they made to the possible revote in michigan. Originally the Michigan primary was open to all parties, repubs, independents, and the like. The proposed revote changed it so that repubs and independents couldnt participate in the revote, nor could anyone that chose to vote on the republican primary (since the dem one didnt count many voted on the republican primary). Basically they wanted to limit it so that the revote would come back with the same results. Anyone that would have wanted to vote for clinton would have done so, anyone that wanted to vote for obama, may have voted for clinton, or voted in the republican primary.

    Learn the details before you start spouting BS.

    May 28, 2008 01:09 pm at 1:09 pm |
  23. GO HILLARY GO!!!!

    HILLARY, YOU GO ALL THE WAY TO THE CONVENTION IF YOU HAVE TO DO SO. WE ARE BEHIND YOU ALL THE WAY AND WE WILL ALWAYS STAND BY YOU. FOR OBAMA AND HIS CAMPAIGN AND FOLLOWERS TO TRY AND SUPPRESS THE VOTERS OF MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA IS NOT ONLY UNDEMOCRATIC BUT UNAMERICAN. HOW VOTERS CAN BE WILLING TO ELECT SOMEONE WHO DOES THIS IS HARD TO BELIEVE. OBAMA TOOK HIS NAME OFF THE BALLOT AND THE RULES SAY HE DID NOT HAVE TO DO SO. HE CAMPAIGNED AS UNCOMMITTED AND LAUNCHED NATIONAL ADS WHICH AIRED IN FLORIDA AND THEN OPPOSED FULLY AND PRIVATELY FUNDED REVOTES. GO HILLARY GO. TAKE IT TO THE CONVENTION!!!

    May 28, 2008 01:09 pm at 1:09 pm |
  24. Vince in NC

    Hillary's math of course includes states that were disqualified, completely discounts the hundreds of thousands of non-commited votes in Michigan and leaves out caucus voters.

    She's only trying to change the rules because she is behind.

    I was open to the possibility of Hillary being VP, but can't support that now because of her continued negativity and desperation. She's proven over and over during this election that she'd do anything to get back into power, and that scares me.

    May 28, 2008 01:09 pm at 1:09 pm |
  25. Kenneth Lindsey

    Hilary
    if every vote counts then that also means caucus votes also counts.
    I would still like to asked why you and yours do not understand basic
    math.The Florida and Michigan voters did not vote in a election who they knew would not count but went to the polls for local issues.

    May 28, 2008 01:09 pm at 1:09 pm |
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