May 28th, 2008
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Democrats mull Florida, Michigan compromise

 Clinton paid a visit to Mt. Rushmore Wednesday. (Sasha Johnson/CNN)

Clinton paid a visit to Mt. Rushmore Wednesday. (Sasha Johnson/CNN)

WASHINGTON (CNN) - The Democratic Party is likely to meet rule-breaking Florida and Michigan halfway when it comes to seating their delegates at the national convention, two members of the rules committee said Wednesday.

Such a move may help Sen. Hillary Clinton close the delegate gap with front-runner Sen. Barack Obama but not overtake him, said sources familiar with party deliberations.

The sources did not want to be identified because the full committee has not yet discussed the problem or ruled on it.

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  1. Nancy

    What gets me is they agreed not to campaign in either of these states and Hillary did not, however Obama did have a commercial ithat ran n one of them i don't remember which state it was, so that is campaigning, whether a mistake or not it did happen.

    Also why did Obama take his name off the balot in Michigan but not Florida? This confuses me.

    What gets me also is the fact that some say (Al Sharpton in general)they did not campaign in these states so some voters did not even come out and vote, well I don't know about these states but in Nevada when we go out and vote there is more on the ballot then just who is running for a particular office, there is also important issues for our state or city like taxes, names of persons running for local public office etc. So this to me shows if they did not come out and vote for these important local issues than they did not care enough, so maybe they should not have a say.

    May 28, 2008 02:30 pm at 2:30 pm |

    I know this comment won't be posted but what the HELL happen to rules?? This society is really teaching the kids you DON't have to play by the rules, all you have to do is cry and the world will give you what you want!!!

    I don't only feel sorry for the democratic party but I feel extremely sorry for the parents who support breaking rules, your kids are going to KICK YOUR A@$!!!!

    May 28, 2008 02:31 pm at 2:31 pm |
  3. MI Women 4 Obama!

    A 50/50 slit is more than fair for either candidate seeing as the states are the ones who broke the rules. I think both Barack and Hillary want to see the states represented and the people in the states would like our votes counted. The people in both Mi & Fl need to not elect the same officials that did this to us in the first place.

    Either way....DNC and SUPERS....send the lunatic Clinton's home.

    All Dems need to rally around Barack and take back the Whitehouse in November.

    Obama 08/12 !!!!!!!!!

    May 28, 2008 02:31 pm at 2:31 pm |
  4. Willie Widdershim

    Personally, i feel the best way to resolve Michigan is to seat the delegates 50/50 and take the Uncommitted votes as votes against Hillary and remove that number from her popular vote total. then the delegates will be seated and hillary will get a boost in the popular vote, but not the ridiculous one she's pushing for.

    i still don't think that this is fair as so many people who would have voted in that primary opted against it or chose to vote in the republican primary instead, but i do think that this is an acceptable compromise.

    May 28, 2008 02:31 pm at 2:31 pm |
  5. Robyn (Jacksonville, FL)

    Florida voters knew well before January that our delegates were stripped and our primary votes were pointless. Who are these 1.3 million people who went and voted anyway? What about all of us who had better things to do that day than cast a vote we were told would not be counted?

    May 28, 2008 02:31 pm at 2:31 pm |
  6. anna

    She is making me SICK!!! Please somebody tell her....

    May 28, 2008 02:31 pm at 2:31 pm |
  7. Vig

    It's inconceivable that a political neophyte with a gift for words would seriously be considered a candidate for the Presidency. Obama's "story" yesterday about his "uncle" was full of holes. While others see this man in glowing honesty, I find him to be disingenuious. If that "story" had deep personal meaning would he have mixed up the name of a death camp?????!!!!!!!!!!!!! Obviously, his campaign handlers are digging up any story that will ingratiate him to the voters. If Obama gets the nomination, I'm sitting out the election. Not only that, but if he gets in, prepare yourselves for another 9/11.

    May 28, 2008 02:31 pm at 2:31 pm |
  8. Frances

    WHY SHOULD THE DNC COMPROMISE??? FL and MI broke the rules. The elected officials in each state knew in September 2007 they woud be stripped of their delegates if they moved their primary dates up but they did anyway. The people of FL and MI should vote for other officals and not blame it on the DNC.

    AND MISS HILLARY IS A DISGRACE TO THE AMERICAN POLITCAL PROCESS. She agreed with DNC to strip them of their delegates but now that she is losing she needs them. DOESN'T ANYONE SEE THIS??

    ALSO, has anyone thought about how many people didn't show up to vote because the process had been ruled illegal? Their might have been millions of votes for OBAMA that didn't even go to the polls. Also, OBAMA was practically an unknown in January of 2008 who didn't get the chance to campaign in FL and his name was not on the ballot in MI. How could any of this be far? HIllary on the other hand was the wife of an 2 term ex-president and EVERYONE knew her already.

    I don't know why the DNC is allowing Hillary and her cheating supporters to get anything out of FL and MI.

    TOO Bad for all of them.

    May 28, 2008 02:31 pm at 2:31 pm |
  9. j.m. pa

    no matter what they say or do it won't suit bill wants back in so he can look for more girl toys if obama chooses her as a running mate i for one stays home election day it will probably be cold that day anyway

    May 28, 2008 02:31 pm at 2:31 pm |
  10. Dave W.

    Hillary's campaign manager was one of the people to decide the punishment for Florida and Michigan. Hillary agreed to this and signed a document along with all of the other candidates. These are undisputable facts. Here are a few questions for Hillary, or any of her supporters:
    – How can Hillary and her supporters blame Obama for the votes not counting in those states?
    -How can Hillary say that every vote must count including Michigan and Florida, but not caucus states?
    -How can she say that the electio n process is not fair, when her husband won this same process 16 years ago?
    -How come when Hillary wanted a re-vote in Michigan and Florida, she only wanted people who voted the first time to be able to re-vote even though alot of people thought their first vote would not count and did not vote?( sorry if this one is confusing)
    I am not rying to be rude, I would just like these questions answered.

    Dave Was

    May 28, 2008 02:32 pm at 2:32 pm |
  11. Brian

    Obama's more likely to lose, Hillary? Well, I think you're more likely to lose... know why? BECAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY LOST.

    May 28, 2008 02:32 pm at 2:32 pm |
  12. Paula

    She favors Miss Piggy in this photo. Never could trust a dirty pig. Always sling mud...

    May 28, 2008 02:32 pm at 2:32 pm |
  13. Tim

    Nothing short of giving Hillaryb ALLL delegates in both states is going to satisfy her supporters. That would be unfair and they know it. They dont want a compromise. They just want another reasonn to take it to the convention and further destroy their party.

    Sore Losers are never admired by anyone. If you cant lose with dignity, then you are just a worthless piece of crap. Dont expect anyone to talk to or care about how you feeel. Because we no longer do.
    If we really had evidence this is a temporary anger thing, I woulkd reach out to her supporters. But now they are just mindless lemmings and sheep. Screw 'em.
    6 more days and the arguments run out and the depression sets in for her supporters.
    CAnt wait! I will sit back and hear the crying, while I sip my wine, nibble on cheese and read an intellectually stimulating book on the hypocrisy of feminism and the need to have appalacia progress beyond a 6th grade education

    May 28, 2008 02:32 pm at 2:32 pm |
  14. mbgoldie

    I'm from Florida so all you people out there saying rules can't be broken are full of crap. Besides, it was the republicans who changed the rules in FL and moved our primary up. Make our votes count please!

    May 28, 2008 02:32 pm at 2:32 pm |


    May 28, 2008 02:32 pm at 2:32 pm |
  16. Miss James if You're Nasty

    What happened to "If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen"? I guess that's only befitting when it applies to someone other than a Clinton.

    Where are Barack's 3 new Super Delegates, CNN? Two from Oregan and one from Guam.

    Let's put an end to this nonsense!

    May 28, 2008 02:33 pm at 2:33 pm |
  17. Just Curious

    If she's showing her best side now, how much more selfishness would we get to see if she got into the oval office? I honestly can't believe this is happening. I hope after this coming weekend, she accepts that this is a done deal, she lost, get over it and move on. If she really wanted to do so much good, she's still a US senator – that's not exactly something to sneeze at. Must she have ALL the power before she's satisfied? Sheesh!

    May 28, 2008 02:33 pm at 2:33 pm |
  18. Mary-PA

    If the DNC decides to count FL and MI, after they CHOSE to break the rules, when they KNEW what the consequences would be is like telling every other state "Go ahead and move your primaries up as much as you like. Don't pay attention to any threats from us because we won't follow through anyway". If that's the way it's going to be then the primaries need to be run like the election and have them all on 1 day. Then we won't have all this crap going on. However, in the meantime, the rules were set, the states and candidates knew the rules ahead of time and Hillary is only worried about disenfrancising voters now because she is behind. She sure didn't worry about it at the beginning of the race, she even said the votes wouldn't count. I am so sick of her crap and change the rules to suit me mentality. This is certainly not the mentality I want in the person to lead the county. We've had enough of that for the past 8 years. Bush and Clinton are like 2 peas in a pod. Only worried about themselves.

    May 28, 2008 02:33 pm at 2:33 pm |
  19. Nancy

    Diane writes:

    I so hate pant suits now. I am calling for a National Pant Suit Burning Day!

    Maybe Diane you should watch something else, I don't watch this crap all the time and I don't hate pant suites. You are way too involved in watching the media all the time if you hate pant suites.

    May 28, 2008 02:33 pm at 2:33 pm |
  20. Mark from Seattle

    She doesn't understand reality: that she trails in every count, popular vote, delegate count, state count. She will even lie and say that she wants all people to have a chance to vote in order to let Florida and Michigan vote for her. Yet, when she counts the popular vote she leaves out all the caucus states, one of which I live in! Why don't you want my voice to be heard Hillary... oh, I know, it's because I didn't vote for you.

    May 28, 2008 02:33 pm at 2:33 pm |
  21. virginia nielsen

    I don't know where this woman is getting this polls results saying that Obama would lose to McBomb!!! Even my dog would beat him in November !!! Stop this war !!! OBAMA 2008-2012 !!!

    May 28, 2008 02:33 pm at 2:33 pm |
  22. Roland Martin

    In the past few days, her surrogates, and even Clinton herself, have ramped up the talk about sexism. There is little doubt that she is trying to stir the ire of her female base and push them to demand that she either be the nominee or be given the vice president slot. But it's really about the former rather than the latter.

    In Florida on Wednesday, she invoked slavery and the epic civil rights battle against Jim Crow in her quest to count the vote in Florida as-is.

    Forget the fact that she once said the states wouldn't matter because they broke the rules.

    Forget the fact that many of her supporters on the Democratic National Committee's rules committee supported the stripping of delegates in Michigan and Florida.

    And forget the fact that her chief supporter in Michigan, Gov. Jennifer Granholm, a Democrat, signed the bill into law that allowed the state to move up its primary.

    Clinton and her supporters now discount all of that and act as if they were always champions of the "disenfranchised" voters in Florida and Michigan. But they weren't. And the record is clear. Only when it became apparent that she needed the states' delegates to close the gap with Obama did she change her tune. She said one thing in Iowa and New Hampshire and now is saying something else.

    The Clintonites don't want any compromises in Michigan and Florida. They want the results to stay the same, even though Obama's name wasn't on the ballot in Michigan and all candidates signed an agreement not to campaign in those two states.

    May 28, 2008 02:33 pm at 2:33 pm |
  23. Letha, SD

    The Obamanation groupies have to be the stupidest people on earth. Do any of you have the brains of a gopher? YOU and YOUR comments about this race are what is dividing this party. Do any of you know more than hate?

    May 28, 2008 02:33 pm at 2:33 pm |
  24. unions are not stupid

    she cares about no one but herself! These votes did not matter till she needed them! they broke the rules and several members of her campaign were on the committee that stripped these two states of there delegates. She did not even want to campaign until after super tuesday when she knew she was in trouble. went to no small states. and said they did not matter in November anyway! At this point her and her husband are like a Perisite in the democratic party. She is thought to be untrustworthy but 60% of the country and nothing brings out GOP voters like a Clinton name on a ballot,They absolutely hate the Clinton's, and there is a large number of Democrats starting to feel the same way.

    May 28, 2008 02:33 pm at 2:33 pm |
  25. Liliana

    Stil don't understand why not voting again in Mi and Fl again, just to keep that big, white, hard-working mouth shut!

    May 28, 2008 02:34 pm at 2:34 pm |
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