May 28th, 2008
11:30 AM ET
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Democrats mull Florida, Michigan compromise

 Clinton paid a visit to Mt. Rushmore Wednesday. (Sasha Johnson/CNN)
Clinton paid a visit to Mt. Rushmore Wednesday. (Sasha Johnson/CNN)

WASHINGTON (CNN) - The Democratic Party is likely to meet rule-breaking Florida and Michigan halfway when it comes to seating their delegates at the national convention, two members of the rules committee said Wednesday.

Such a move may help Sen. Hillary Clinton close the delegate gap with front-runner Sen. Barack Obama but not overtake him, said sources familiar with party deliberations.

The sources did not want to be identified because the full committee has not yet discussed the problem or ruled on it.

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  1. Shame Shame Hillary

    If you cry long enough, throw tantrums and scream "I losing this race, some give me sympathy" eventually someone begins to feel sorry for you. I don't, She is not a women of her word. I don't want a sore loser in White House, the minute she has PMS she scream at Bill to handle things for while she pops an advil. Hillary you need to take a back seat with all you so called experience and mis-spoken words and watch Obama take it like a man, win or lose. Florida and Michigan I'm sorry for the struggle you ar facing but rules are rules and long before the choice came down to Obama and Hillary no one complained about it then, Super Tuesday made Hillary a desperate women.

    May 28, 2008 02:43 pm at 2:43 pm |
  2. Conservative Buyer- CA

    Move the goal posts past 2025 and change it to 2209. Break the rules and make Hillary the Democratic Nominee. If she’s not the nominee then compromise and make her the VP. Please change the rules.

    Signed,

    The Republicans

    May 28, 2008 02:43 pm at 2:43 pm |
  3. Ratgurl

    Everyone else has accepted it.... the Clintons need to accept it now, too. Barack is the nominee. DNC, would you help her out here?

    May 28, 2008 02:43 pm at 2:43 pm |
  4. Phillip Bunn , Bailey NC

    Hillary Clinton looks like a gerbal gnawing on a mouthful of sawdust. Everything about her is either fake, or politically manufactured for "capitol" gain.

    May 28, 2008 02:43 pm at 2:43 pm |
  5. No Hillary

    Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... so it means with this new arrangement Hillary still will be short on delegate count?.... In this case Hillary will argue: The LOOSER OF THE PRIMARY SHOULD BE THE NOMINEE BECAUSE U LEARN MORE BY LOOSING THAN BY WINNING...

    May 28, 2008 02:44 pm at 2:44 pm |
  6. jose

    But Hillary, if you are the stronger candidate, please explain why:

    1. You are not the front runner.

    2. You are behind in every way, delegates, Super delegates, number of states won etc.

    3. You have managed a very bad, and even ugly, campaign, and that you are in debt
    up to your little ears.

    4. Just because you say you are ahead in some the polls, does not make you the nominee.
    There is a process you follow, and since you do not have the desired number of delegates,
    you cannot be the nominee.

    5. You have tried everything in the book to win, steal and snatch the nomination, and
    despite having the advantage at the beginning, in name recognition, and money, you have
    lost.

    It is time you obliterated your campaign. Enough with the tears and whining.

    May 28, 2008 02:44 pm at 2:44 pm |
  7. kenny cole

    Why the DNC. is scare of this old lady,does she have to be the president of united sttate?this woman should get out of this race

    May 28, 2008 02:44 pm at 2:44 pm |
  8. Necie

    Fact is: Clinton EXPECTED to win the Nomination Hands Down-and certainly disregarded the Jr Senator from Illinois. Now that she's getting the crap beat out of her, is millions of $$ in debt and has lost all credibility she wants to count Michigan and Florida. And she's blaming Obama when she agreed to the process. HRC...you're a hypocrite.

    May 28, 2008 02:44 pm at 2:44 pm |
  9. Lizzy in TX

    Hey "No Way"– you do understand that Florida VOTERS had no choice. The FL legislature changed the primary dates, not the FL Democratic party or the voters. So what were they to do?

    Everybody– How would YOU feel if you were told your vote wasn't going to count? I would be livid. I would probably be at the DNC meeting raising holy heck.

    For some of you loyal Obama supporters, you really need to take a lesson in Politics 101. You HAVE to look at who can carry which states... electoral votes are the ultimate call in November. You can actually win the popular vote and still lose the electoral college vote and the Presidency.

    After witnessing the craziness in the TX primary caucuses (yes, we have BOTH a popular vote AND a caucus) I am a firm believer that we (and possibly ALL states) should seriously consider getting rid of the caucus process. In a caucus, it is no longer a secret ballot and people are vulnerable to being bullied and coerced by various supporters. I've been active in the party for some time, and I NEVER saw anything like what went on this Spring by many of the Obama supporters. I actually went home thinking, "Were these people trained by the Karl Rove machine??"

    Bottom line, you super delegates need to take a long hard look at which candidate can carry the big electoral college states in November. Without those key states, we're toast.

    May 28, 2008 02:44 pm at 2:44 pm |
  10. Sad

    I now officially DESPISE Hillary and am disgusted by her tactics. She is extermely skilled at creating division and controversy....she'll do great trying to get bi-partisan support for bills. Those skills must be neccessary skills to be the president.....Bush is also an excellent divider.

    May 28, 2008 02:44 pm at 2:44 pm |
  11. Harry

    Please get this fiasco over with. I used to be a Clinton supporter and now find both Bill and Hillary to be absolutely didgusting.

    May 28, 2008 02:45 pm at 2:45 pm |
  12. Jaybrown NY/NJ

    HRC drives me nuts with this whole making sure the votes count, because it will favor her. It is strictly for her personal gain. I know for a fact she wouldn't be worried about those votes if it meant that Obama would over take her. She doesn't care that his name wasn't on the ballot in Michigan. She just as well take all the delegates there. She's playing on the emotion of the people in FL and MI saying that every vote needs to be counted and getting them emotional about having their vote count to put pressure on the DNC so SHE can gain. Not for the sake of the people. It's so obvious. If I was in Obama's camp and she wants to boost about the popular vote, then I would find a way to count the caucuses as well. People voted there too. But she wont count them, why? Because she doesn't benefit with way. She only wants the numbers in her favor. I don't see how Hillary supporters can be proud of this woman and her childlike behavior. Obama is playing by the rules that was started in the beginning of the Primary. He has never tried to cheat the rules in his favor. FL & MI's local government failed them. It's not Obama's fault that those states decided to break the rules. Hillary signed off on the decision as the others in the party did, stating that the votes were not going to count? What changed?

    May 28, 2008 02:45 pm at 2:45 pm |
  13. Linda Marjason

    I have part of Obama's new plan for the olympics. When the race begins you look forward and if you feel you can not catch up, quit the race. This new attitude would end the countless hours of sports play-offs. In October when the polls show he is behind in the race by 20 points, I expect him and all his supporters to call for him to quit. That is the American spirit or at least the "new and improved" version.

    May 28, 2008 02:45 pm at 2:45 pm |
  14. Superdelegate Bob

    Part of the rules is that there is an appeals process, which means the rules committee can decide to amend the rules. Awarding half of the MI and FL delegates is not going to change the race, just make it more likely that those states' dems will vote in November.

    Don't be rigid.

    Obama '08

    May 28, 2008 02:45 pm at 2:45 pm |
  15. R.I.F.

    You're a little late CNN. Chuck Todd at MSNBC said this about 2 weeks ago. This, although still partically giving in to the Clinton Machine, is propaply the best way to resolve the issue and avoid a delegate fight at the Convention.

    Anyone who says that they are taking their vote and giving it to the Republicans since the democrats don't want it is not reading because the RNC only counted MI & FL at 50% strength as well for breaking the rules. Also, you have to at least give Obama the uncommmitees in MI because c'mon, we all know that he would've probably carried the state in a real election or it would have at least been very tight. She's making out like a bandit if they go 50% and should accept the generous donation.

    May 28, 2008 02:45 pm at 2:45 pm |
  16. NO DNC FLIPFLOPS

    RULES ARE RULES.

    Sorry, but certain people should be held individually accountable for the problem.

    But no reason to bend rules. Just punish people that caused this mess.

    May 28, 2008 02:45 pm at 2:45 pm |
  17. RB TX

    Go Hilllary, keep on fighting. Your inspiring Americans who look past words and are pursuaded by action.

    Fighters For Hillary

    May 28, 2008 02:45 pm at 2:45 pm |
  18. steven

    Well this is so simple to me we have rules and laws put in place to govern our lives and contests, why have 2026 delegates to win why not the majority are why not who ever wins the most ststes lets change some more rules why not let who raise the most money better yet lets not have any rules let all the people in prison free are at least change there crimes to lesser ones they didnt mean to break them it was right at the time but now they see were it does not work in thier favor so let change the rule for them also sporting events should let the loser have one more chance to win our children should cry and have bad sportmenship if they lose because they should expect for the rules to be change for them to win. See the Clinton think they can move the goal post the basket, the net, the law,the rules to suit them but the message is not right is that what you stand for is that what this country stands for do the right thing stand by the freaking Rules

    May 28, 2008 02:45 pm at 2:45 pm |
  19. I have a goldfish

    Florida and Michigan knew the rules but decided to try them anyway. Screw them and their votes. What message does it send to everyone if we even "meet them in the middle"? Granted, it was FL and MI party leaders who made the decision, and not the folks who actually wanted to make sure their vote was counted, but it just sucks to be them...they should be mad at their party officials, not the DNC or any candidate. Besides the principle, Obama didn't campaign in either state and his name wasn't even on the ballot in MI. All candidates were okay with the DNC's decision to not seat those delegates. Why has someone been working so hard on changing that now?...since they're losing? That's poor sportsmanship...I don't care which candidate would be doing this...don't be a sore loser.

    May 28, 2008 02:45 pm at 2:45 pm |
  20. Carl

    The only reason for such a move is the create the illusion to the people of Florida and Michigan that there voice is being heard, however, the support they have showed to Hillary has been neglected until found to be needed. She is as hypocritical as a typical politician, which I found very sad.

    All in all, this is totally moot since we know who the nominee will be and Hillary needs to face it and bow out gracefully before she does any more damage (but I expect the worst).

    May 28, 2008 02:46 pm at 2:46 pm |
  21. brenda schipper

    yes, lets put the weaker canidate fprward. borak will lose. the media led us into war and now they have led us sheep into losing the presidency.

    May 28, 2008 02:46 pm at 2:46 pm |
  22. Mat

    Obama needs to take notice of this – he needs to start campaigning like he hasn't won the nominee – he needs to talk about how he's stronger than Clinton – he needs to put out these fires – i'm sick of hearing her lies, spin and crap in the news feeds!

    She's full of crap!

    May 28, 2008 02:46 pm at 2:46 pm |
  23. Rove is Gay

    This is outrageous, they broke the DNC law and they should be punish for it. NO MORE EXCUSE. YOU DRIVE FAST YOU GET TICKET, CAN"T cry and winn after it. Be an adult and accept the consequesnces of your action.

    May 28, 2008 02:47 pm at 2:47 pm |
  24. Fly Boy

    News Flash:

    HilLiar is winning by popular vote, she comes to this number by adding ALL 50 states incl. American Idol, Dancing with the Stars and So you think you can Dance and EXCLUDING all Caucus states and taking that number times square divided by E=MC2......

    Obama 08, 12 (Honest Math that really does add up)

    May 28, 2008 02:47 pm at 2:47 pm |
  25. Realistic

    Hillary's attempt to steal the election continues, but will not be tolerated. So instead she will stir up trouble so that she can run again in 2012.

    Clinton / Lewinsky '12

    May 28, 2008 02:47 pm at 2:47 pm |
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