May 28th, 2008
11:30 AM ET
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Democrats mull Florida, Michigan compromise

 Clinton paid a visit to Mt. Rushmore Wednesday. (Sasha Johnson/CNN)
Clinton paid a visit to Mt. Rushmore Wednesday. (Sasha Johnson/CNN)

WASHINGTON (CNN) - The Democratic Party is likely to meet rule-breaking Florida and Michigan halfway when it comes to seating their delegates at the national convention, two members of the rules committee said Wednesday.

Such a move may help Sen. Hillary Clinton close the delegate gap with front-runner Sen. Barack Obama but not overtake him, said sources familiar with party deliberations.

The sources did not want to be identified because the full committee has not yet discussed the problem or ruled on it.

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  1. Silence Dogood

    1968 DNC convention – there was a clear delegate leader – even more lead than Obama can get now. But there was a problem. Many democrats felt left out and that their voices were not heard.

    But the DNC went ahead and endorsed the leader based on numbers alone and ignored people. There were protests and riots in the street.

    But the DNC went ahead with their candidate. And the DNC lost it and put Nixon in office.

    Warning: Cults rarely read history.

    May 28, 2008 01:49 pm at 1:49 pm |
  2. Joe

    The message Hillary is sending to kids... if you're losing, cry about it and have the rules changed in obscure ways that helps you catch up.

    For instance, if you're losing a baseball game 6-4, convince the umpires to throw out the first inning where your opponent scored three runs. That way you would be ahead 3-4!

    I never thought I would say this, but Hillary is as vile and corrupt as George W. Bush.

    May 28, 2008 01:49 pm at 1:49 pm |
  3. Rus in St. Paul, MN

    So, they'll be seated with 50% of the delegates, seat them as is and just get it over with. Obama will still be ahead overwhelmingly in delegates. June 4th can't come fast enough honestly.

    May 28, 2008 01:49 pm at 1:49 pm |
  4. Chris from San Antonio

    In a Hillary Supporter's universe, It doesn't matter that the Spurs won 4 out of 7 games for the NBA championship. Cleveland had more 3 pointers and more rebounds, so they are the true winners.

    It doesn't matter that the Yankees scored more runs in 9 innings, because the Red Sox had fewer errors and more hits in 7 innings.

    It doesn't matter that Jeff Gordon crossed the finish line first, because Dale Jr. was in the lead through most of the race and had quicker pit stops.

    May 28, 2008 01:50 pm at 1:50 pm |
  5. Mary

    I hereby request to be removed from the DNC list as a Democrat if they give in to the Clintons politcial pressure and seat FL and MI. While I feel for the people of those states, whose elected officials chose to break the rules, the only way this should play out is that those FL and MI officials should be removed in upcoming elections for their poor judgement. The rest of us should not have our time and energies wasted because they are now feeling like it was a bad decision. And furthermore, Ms. Hillary should not be rewarded for being a liar and a cheat. She agreed that these states primaries should not count and now that she is behind, she changes her mind....can her supporters really think that this is fair? if the reverse were the case, and Obama was now claiming these states after saying they shouldn't count...would they still think they should be seated. Really, folks ask yourself that fair question...please do not be hypocrites..that is for the Republicans to do.

    May 28, 2008 01:50 pm at 1:50 pm |
  6. KJ, CA

    They knew the rules, they broke the rules. When my son broke the rules he knew that there were going to be consequences and they were not negotiable. It is said that the citizens votes in Michigan and Florida won't count – but the state party's did it to them, no one else.

    Oh yea – Mrs. Clinton, you signed an agreement (as did all of the other Democratic Presidential candidates at the time) saying that you would abide by the decision of the DNC. Funny how things change for you when you aren't getting your way...

    May 28, 2008 01:50 pm at 1:50 pm |
  7. JOYCE IN ARKANSAS

    why should h-dean bargain. he is a spineless wimp who does not deserve his job to let the clintons fear factor set in and change the rules at the end of the game. is this america and why would any one want a president who backpeddles before even in office. god help us if she steals the nom.
    howard dean be a man for once in your sorry life

    May 28, 2008 01:50 pm at 1:50 pm |
  8. barackobama4prez

    This is all a big mess. The DNC needs to get it's legislative & administrative house in order to avoid this from happening in the future.

    May 28, 2008 01:51 pm at 1:51 pm |
  9. Look

    The picture here says it all. This is not about voters in FL and MI. This is about Hillary Rodham Clinton. Period. She can't win by managing her campaign well and strategizing effectively, so she tries to have the rules changed. What the hell? - she's already losing, so she has nothing to lose...

    May 28, 2008 01:51 pm at 1:51 pm |
  10. AZM

    Do you hear that?

    The pitter patter of 20 million little feet running to write in HRCs name come November...

    Bye Bye Obama...

    May 28, 2008 01:51 pm at 1:51 pm |
  11. Democrat who will never vote for Clinton

    I can't believe this bull, i will never, ever, ever, ever, no matter what, I don't care if I am on the streets, i will still NEVER, ever EVER vote for her!! EVER!!!

    May 28, 2008 01:51 pm at 1:51 pm |
  12. Citizen

    Even after the Michigan and Florida delegates are awarded; Clinton still loses. That is what is not being discussed. She is a loser under every scenario, but there are actually people walking around thinking that she is going to have enough delegates to get the nomination. No, it is not going to happen.

    May 28, 2008 01:52 pm at 1:52 pm |
  13. Moses, Ca.

    I can't beleive the HRC supporters fall for everything she says. She can tell them the sky is green and they'll beleive it and say she's the right one for the country..." UNBELEIVABLE "

    May 28, 2008 01:53 pm at 1:53 pm |
  14. A Texas Voter

    Clinton will never stop,she is hoping to be so annoying that people will probably just say here you win because we can't take your lies and crap anymore. It is either Hillary wins or we all lose. There is no end in sight. I just wonder what does she think will happen to all the Obama supporters, do we just say well ok Hillary you cried,lied and cheated so yes, you have our vote. While Clinton supporters are out there whining with her about not voting for Obama, you are not true democrats, and you are sore losers. What if a horrible thing happens and she gets the nomination, What do you think Obama supporters will do, send money?NO, vote for her?NO!!!!!!!!!Grow up people,let it go quit trying to cheat and change the rules. She agreed to this at the start, why didn't she care back then???Lets hear it.

    May 28, 2008 01:53 pm at 1:53 pm |
  15. An American in Canada for David

    Don't you just love these DNC puppets who come out and drop hints about how the DNC committee may seat Florida and Michigan delegates, as if we the citizens do not see through their ploy.

    There is only one true strong substantial leader for the Democratic Party and that is H.R. Clinton who will also be the next President.

    She will have the Popular Votes and as far as delegates are concerned neither Oboma nor Clinton will have the true number of State delegates to be declared the winner,

    Thus their is only one recourse and that is to go to the convention and place Obama and Clinton's names on a voting course.

    AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, DNC FIX YOUR STUPED METHOD OF CHOOSING A NOMINEE, BECAUSE OF THESE PROTRACTED PRIMARIES, WE ALL WITNESSED THE WEAKNESS AND STUPIDITY OF YOUR SYSTEM.

    Have you ever heard of Winner Take All!
    And have you ever heard of starting in November seventeen(17) states will vote in the primary.
    And in December seventeen (17) more states will votein their primary.
    And finally, in January the last sixteen (16) primary states shall vote.

    That way by February, you will have your candidate who will have enough time to campaign before the General Election.

    GGGEEEEEEEEZZZ AN EIGHT YEAR OLD CAN FIGURE THAT ONE OUT!

    May 28, 2008 01:53 pm at 1:53 pm |
  16. skylark

    CNN:
    Stop enabling this sick woman. Stop encouraging her so called supporters (Many of whom are Rush Limbaugh plants)
    Please notice that McCain is not attacking Hillary in any way.
    Why?
    We know why. Those of us who remember the scandals of the 90's.
    The GOP has enough dirty laundry on the Cintons to bury a landfill.
    They are not afraid of her. That alone should give you pause.
    But we Dems should be very afraid. She will bury us in our own selfish pride and petty self interest. Our country is only 1 part of the Global Community. We need diplomacy. We need someone to represent us at our best. Not racist, not sexist, not white or black but as we are ; diverse and tolerant of our differences.
    Please.
    Obama '08

    May 28, 2008 01:53 pm at 1:53 pm |
  17. J

    LOL why is it people from Germany feel the need to comment on US election choices? You don't see US citizens even paying attention to their internal affairs.

    May 28, 2008 01:53 pm at 1:53 pm |
  18. USAF Staff Sergeant

    I am so very tired of Clinton. How does she think she can get away with saying Florida and Michigan wont count, but a few months later down the road when she is losing and can gain from it, say that they must be seated?

    What a terrible role model for American children.

    Whine and cry if you don't get your way.

    Change the rules of the game if you can't win.

    The DNC will be giving her far more than she deserves if they seat any of those delegates.

    May 28, 2008 01:53 pm at 1:53 pm |
  19. Obama will win.

    RULES ARE RULES PEOPLE!

    ALL of the candidates agreed to not count them AND NOW she cares? Clinton YOU SAID NO JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE DID so STOP THE MADDNESS!

    May 28, 2008 01:53 pm at 1:53 pm |
  20. Debby

    Oh please once the votes are counted she will bow out. Its not like she has a chance anyway since the DNC and their deal making to the stupids hand picked their candidate. She has had alot of turncoats go to Obma and they don't do that unless they are promised something.

    May 28, 2008 01:54 pm at 1:54 pm |
  21. New Day

    I am ok with this proposal with the condition that Florida residents are required to take a course on how to cast a vote! One more dimpled chad and I swear, I'm gonna drive down 95 and beat some heads!!!!

    May 28, 2008 01:54 pm at 1:54 pm |
  22. Wait till November

    That's fine and Dandy... forget about 2000, in 2008 we DEFINABLY WILL DELIVER FLORIDA FOR MCCAIN, THIS TIME THERE WILL BE NO RECOUNT WE ARE GOING RED!!!!

    In 2000 Gore made the stupid mistake of wanting to recount only some of the counties – VERY selective… now again in one the smoothest primaries with record turn out in Florida we are going to count some of the votes maybe… I belonged to this party because is the party of the “people” but I guess is FOR some people and no longer a 50 state race… I WILL VOTE AGAINST THE PARTY THAT TAKES AWAY MY MOST BASIC RIGHT…

    May 28, 2008 01:54 pm at 1:54 pm |
  23. Gag me

    We don't elect the presidential nominee by the popular vote and we don't elect the president in the general election wth the popular vote. It's the last ditch effort for HRC to try to make the case for why the entire system and process (whether we like the process or not) should be overturned so she can get what she wants. It won't work but she won't stop til she tries any and everything. She's not fooling most people, smart people see what and who she is. Oh and by the way, she has done little for the feminist cause, actually she has damaged it more than helping it. But she has demonstrated that poor leadership and low political maneuvering knows no gender bias.

    May 28, 2008 01:54 pm at 1:54 pm |
  24. John Smith

    Who is Hillary running against at this time?

    It cannot be Obama or McCain. Even the Republicans are NOT using their war machine against Hillary. She is like the FL and MI votes, Hillary can claim she is a stronger candidate because she is not in competition with anyone.

    What happened since the start of this process? Should the stronger candidate not be the one ahead by now?

    May 28, 2008 01:54 pm at 1:54 pm |
  25. Venus

    Don't worry Obama supporters! There is nothing Hillary can do to over take Obama! Please read the lastest news below! This is great news for us! MI and FL will be able to seat only HALF of their delegates! Therefore – it will come down to spliting them in half which will also – bump up Obama's lead!

    A Democratic Party rules committee has the authority to seat some delegates from Michigan and Florida but not fully restore the two states as Hillary Rodham Clinton wants, according to party lawyers.

    Democratic National Committee rules require that the two states lose at least half of their convention delegates for holding elections too early, the party's legal experts wrote in a 38-page memo.

    The memo was sent late Tuesday to the 30 members of the party's Rules and Bylaws Committee, which plans to meet Saturday at a Washington hotel. The committee is considering ways to include the two important general election battlegrounds at the nominating convention in August, and the staff analysis says seating half the delegates is "as far as it legally can" go.

    Go Bam!

    May 28, 2008 01:54 pm at 1:54 pm |
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