May 28th, 2008
11:30 AM ET
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Democrats mull Florida, Michigan compromise

 Clinton paid a visit to Mt. Rushmore Wednesday. (Sasha Johnson/CNN)

Clinton paid a visit to Mt. Rushmore Wednesday. (Sasha Johnson/CNN)

WASHINGTON (CNN) - The Democratic Party is likely to meet rule-breaking Florida and Michigan halfway when it comes to seating their delegates at the national convention, two members of the rules committee said Wednesday.

Such a move may help Sen. Hillary Clinton close the delegate gap with front-runner Sen. Barack Obama but not overtake him, said sources familiar with party deliberations.

The sources did not want to be identified because the full committee has not yet discussed the problem or ruled on it.

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  1. Patty

    I can't believe you people who hate Hillary so much are wasting your time reading and blogging about her. Must be something you are afraid of – maybe she will win. I am glad I am not a part of the Obama supporters who are so mean, nasty and hatefull. Why are you so afraid of the process playing out??????

    May 28, 2008 02:16 pm at 2:16 pm |
  2. Frenchman

    Hillary will be sleeping with the fishes real soon.

    You'll see, it will be quick. I'm going to have a good laugh, you should join me.

    May 28, 2008 02:17 pm at 2:17 pm |
  3. Dennis

    I support Senator Obama. I suggest the DNC follow's the RNC's lead and seat half of the delegates from each state. The DNC then has not "disenfranchised" anyone (and I don't believe they did by stripping the states of their delegates). Furthermore, seating half the delegates doesn't change the result of the nomination process to this point. The one thing that must be negotiated is how to award Michigan's delegates as Senator Obama followed the desires of the party by removing his name from the ballot. Because the "uncommitted vote" was clearly not for Senator Clinton, and Senator Edwards has endorsed Senator Obama, I suggest all the delegates for that percentage of the vote should be awarded to Senator Obama.

    If they decide to take the extreme measure of awarding all the delegates as they were voted, then it still doesn't change the outcome. Senator Obama is still in the lead.

    May 28, 2008 02:17 pm at 2:17 pm |
  4. white woman for Obama

    Please get this race over with, we are getting so disgusted with the clintons, it is just horrible. They are totally for nothing but themselves! They care less about the american people, care less about the democratic party and they lie. Why are we still dealing wit them? because idiots in some states, uneducated and gullable listen to them, believe what they say and vote for her out of ignorance. The Clintons know how to prey on the less fortunate and negative to get enough votes to keep her going. They are disgusting!

    May 28, 2008 02:17 pm at 2:17 pm |
  5. Connie

    The Perfect solution!

    This is the second time FL has mess up the voting. They should not be counted and they shouldn’t be able to participate in the general either. Get ready for some more mess in the general election.

    Is it to much sun and the brains are fried?

    May 28, 2008 02:17 pm at 2:17 pm |
  6. Jerry

    Hillary need to be mad with Florida and Michigan republicans how they going to change the rules in the demoncratic party someone need to suit them for invading the demoncratic election rules, Hillary you are pittiful person I hope you do not get elected as a senator in Ny your time is up, American people are really upset with Hillary and some of the old politicain who is not forceing her out of the race are they scared of her.

    May 28, 2008 02:17 pm at 2:17 pm |
  7. Dave P: Iowa City, IA

    I am headed out to rob a bank, I think I can persuade them to understand (if I get caught) that I just needed the money so shouldn't be punished.

    How can we expect society to understand the rules if they don't count for anything???

    Dave, soon to be an ex-Democrat

    May 28, 2008 02:17 pm at 2:17 pm |
  8. Grady

    What kills me is the people who are actually responsible for this mess (the governments of Florida and Michigan) are sitting back laughing while everybody else takes the heat. It sure would be poetic if Crist gets the veep and and the angry voters in Florida took out on HIM in the GE.

    May 28, 2008 02:17 pm at 2:17 pm |
  9. Kenneth M

    Pat Waak from Colorado, Meredith Wood Smith from Oregon and Ben Pangelinan from Guam ALL SEEM TOHAVE LITTLE SUPPORT FOR HILLARY. THEY JUST ENDORSED OBAMA

    May 28, 2008 02:18 pm at 2:18 pm |
  10. Hillary's got the goods to win in Nov.

    Diane... Is that the best you can do is slam pantsuits. You are a disgrace to women.

    I am so sick sick of the hypocracy of the Obama supporters... They preach let's talk about the issues, but all they do is slam Hillary's looks, her pantsuits, her laugh.

    You know why you can't slam her on the issues, because she's rock solid on the issues.

    Obama on the other hand... Flip flop on Iran this week. Is Iran a big threat or little threat? I guess it depends on the crowd he is pandering to. What about his made up uncle. I guess that was a pander for the Jewish vote who is fleeing the democratic party.

    Obama the great uniter... Looks like our party has splintered. What's so funny is that Hillary is winning all of the Dems' swing voters who generally vote for a moderate Repulican or Democrat.

    When will Dems realize, they can't win with a left wing nut.

    Obama = Jimmy Carter (and you wonder why seniors are flocking to Hillary)

    Moderate Dems for Hillary

    May 28, 2008 02:18 pm at 2:18 pm |
  11. Democratic FAILURE

    Go ahead DEMS, move the goal posts for Clinton.


    McCain needs a the DEM party to fracture.

    May 28, 2008 02:18 pm at 2:18 pm |
  12. Farrell, Houston, Tx

    No matter what the Democrat Party does about the delegates it won't be enough for Hillary or Bill, they will continue their blame game.

    May 28, 2008 02:18 pm at 2:18 pm |
  13. ChaChaCha

    Kevin, There was no PRIMARY in Fla. and Mich. because they broke the rules and they knew they would not count when they did it. SO there are no votes to count.

    0 + 0 = 0

    No primary. No votes.

    It isn't the voters fault in the states, but the fault of those who pushed the primary's up KNOWINGLY AGAINST THE RULES AND KNOWING FULL WELL NOTHING WOULD COUNT. Sheesh. Why don't people get it? I'm sad for the people of those states. SO I say go after the people in FLA and MICH who decided to break the rules and took your votes away!!!

    May 28, 2008 02:18 pm at 2:18 pm |
  14. susannah jones

    The constitution of the United States of America says that we are all allowed to vote. It is constitutionally wrong to strike the certified vote as not counting. The Florida/Michigan votes must count if we are not to look like some third world dictatorship, or worse, communist country where we are controlled by the media and the political demagogues.
    The rest of the world is watching very closely especially with our presence in Iraq where we are pushing for democracy. To write off millions of votes to please the political agenda of the primary candidates and the news media is very worrying....wake up before we go even further into the double standard reputation that we are fast acquiring in the eyes of the world community
    susannah jones

    May 28, 2008 02:18 pm at 2:18 pm |
  15. CMitch, FW, TX

    Rules are rules. The people have spoken. DNC in 2000 you let Bush steal the election and did nothing, I hope this not the case with Hillary.
    There should be no meeting concerning Florida & Michigan. Bill & Hillary step aside gracefully and let the new generation run this country GIVE IT UP!!!!!. NO CLINTONS IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

    May 28, 2008 02:18 pm at 2:18 pm |
  16. Helene

    Apply the rules ! Not the Clintons' rules but the DNC rules. The voters deserve nothing less.

    May 28, 2008 02:18 pm at 2:18 pm |
  17. Chris

    And Hillary calls Obama's camp the "Bully" when it comes to Super Delegates

    She only wins the popular vote if Obama gets 0 votes in MI – which according to her "math" is "fair"

    May 28, 2008 02:18 pm at 2:18 pm |
  18. Isaac

    The only way she'd be the better candidate in the general election is if only Democrats were allowed to vote in it.

    Go play CNN's Delegate Game. You'll see that if the remaining contests are split 50-50 down the middle Obama only needs 5 more superdelegates to win the nomination. She needs 67% of the vote in the remaining contests and 100% of the remaining superdelegates to win.

    Face it. IT IS OVER!

    May 28, 2008 02:18 pm at 2:18 pm |
  19. Voice of Reason

    Y'know – when I tell my kids NO, i have to stand by it. If I didnt – they'd walk all over me.

    The Democratic parties of Florida and Michigan were told that they could not hold their primaries so early. They were told that if they did, their delegates would not be seated at the convention.

    What did they do? They held their primaries early anyway.

    Now those chickens have come home to roost. The same people who thumbed their nose at the rules want them changed in their favor.


    But i WANT it!


    But i REALLY REALLY REALLY want it!

    Listen up Florida and Michigan Democratic parties: The answer is NO. Get a little backbone and go explain to your state party members how YOU screwed them. Maybe then they will stop blaming Obama, the DNC, Howard Dean and anyone else not in the mirror...

    May 28, 2008 02:18 pm at 2:18 pm |
  20. jonny

    "Clinton: Obama more likely to lose" I would just like to say that Clinton is the most likely to lose BECAUSE SHE ALREADY HAS LOST! If you cant win the primary, there is no way you can win the GE!

    May 28, 2008 02:19 pm at 2:19 pm |
  21. Dr. Truth, Boston

    Dr. Truth, Boston May 28th, 2008 10:59 am ET
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    Yes he will lose West Virginia – so will Clinton.
    Yes he will lose Kentucky – so will Clinton.
    Yes of course he will lose Arizona – so will Clinton.

    I don't care that he's running behind in the polls vs. McCain. I would rather put up an honest smart upstanding American against him than a plotting deceitful manipulative arrogant liar like Clinton.

    Clinton please tell your racist supporters (obviously a minority of your supporters) to grow up and accept that a capable non-white male can take care of things better than McCain. Also admit that a substantial number of voters voted for you because they wanted to stir trouble and will certainly be voting McCain in the fall.

    She is just so used to things coming so easy to her she can't believe that this half black guy named Hussein Obama can be beating her even with the benefit of the "Clinton" lable.

    May 28, 2008 02:19 pm at 2:19 pm |
  22. aware

    No compromise! Count the votes! Don't canabalize your best chance DNC. You will lose the general because many Dems will switch or drop out.

    Hillary Clinton is the stronger candidate for the General Election. 🙂

    Obama flip flops, obfuscates, misinforms, exaggerates and has a problem with telling the truth. Michelle wears the pants in the Obama family and is just plain mean. 😦

    May 28, 2008 02:19 pm at 2:19 pm |
  23. Jo

    They have to seat these deligates, the primary dates were moved forward by a Republican majority in the State Houses of both Michigan and Florida. The dates were out of the control of the Democratic minority.
    The Obama camp does not want the deligates seated because of the impact to their candidate, which indicates that they are just as politically focused as Hillary. This is an issue of fairness and if we as a party support "every vote counts" then we must seat the deligates. If we do not than we are no better than the Republicans.

    May 28, 2008 02:19 pm at 2:19 pm |
  24. jaime

    all I have to say is that is what 's Barack Hussein Obama afraid of? why not count the votes of Michigan and Florida and see if he still is the nominee that you the media have crowned for some time. Those who say she can't win, they are afraid that she could. Those who push for her exit, know she won't. Can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen and besides a lot of people I know have changed their minds about Obama so expect him to lose in november.

    May 28, 2008 02:20 pm at 2:20 pm |
  25. fred2..since another stole my name

    I am sure the source is Donna....Screw the rules....we the people did not have a say in those rules or do we have a say in who is on the committee!!

    Count them all!!!

    May 28, 2008 02:20 pm at 2:20 pm |
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