WASHINGTON (CNN) - The Democratic Party is likely to meet rule-breaking Florida and Michigan halfway when it comes to seating their delegates at the national convention, two members of the rules committee said Wednesday.
Such a move may help Sen. Hillary Clinton close the delegate gap with front-runner Sen. Barack Obama but not overtake him, said sources familiar with party deliberations.
The sources did not want to be identified because the full committee has not yet discussed the problem or ruled on it.
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As a Michigan voter, my candidate was not represented. My vote could not be tallied. One candidate was listed on our ballet, but it takes two (or more) to have a REAL race.
Hillary is the not the champion of Michigan. If she was leading candidate, rather than Obama, she would NOT be an advocate to place our delegates.
In any case, not that it matters, if we had the opportunity to have a revote; I am certain Obama would claim Michigan, as well.
DNC... The rules are the rules. A parent should never hand out a punishment it is not willing to adhere to. What then is the lessoned learned? It's okay to break the rules. To lie...? I cannot believe they are even contemplating on retracting the punishment
And Hillary calls Obama's camp the "Bully" when it comes to Super Delegates
She only wins the popular vote if Obama gets 0 votes in MI, counts the Puerto Rican vote and 0 votes from the 12 caucus states – which according to her "math" is "fair"
Hillary said she would support whoever the nominee is – that's bull, she will rally her supporters to "make" Obama "unelectible"
While there are countless ways in which this could turn out, there is really one fair result. As I have been posting for weeks, at best only half of the delegates will get seated. Camp Clinton can complain in the public eye about this is unfair or that is unfair, but the fact remains that when the door closes to begin the RBC meeting Camp Clinton will have to accept the rules they had signed on to. Rules which a couple of Camp Clinton's biggest advisors helped write or enforce.; i.e. Terry McCauliffe to name just one.
Camp Obama has withheld their ace cards in regards to Michigan. The Michigan change included a new provision that write-in candidates could not keep their delegates unless they outright won 2/3 of the vote. A law signed into law by Michigan's governer, another Clinton supporter. As noted in the above article, all candidates were supposed to have removed their names from Michigan.
Technically, it can be argued that Clinton's name was on the ballot illegally in violation of DNC rules and signed agreements. Camp Clinton cannot even argue that her name was on ballot as a write-in, because she would not be able to keep her delegates as per Michigan law.
Whatever happens behind those close doors it will be not be a fight that has been painted in HRC's campaign speeches. It promises to be a gloves off fight for sure. It also promises to be a fight where Camp Clinton is going to spend most of the fight in the corner getting beat up if they do not conform to their prior signed agreements.
Reduce FL and MI delegates by half. Award remaining delegates in proportion to results from the primaries that complied with the rules.
How does one "win" - much less "decisively" - when your opponent isn't on the freaking ballot? The voters of Michigan and Florida should indeed be angry, but not with Obama or the DNC. They should be mad at their state party officials.
People's voices must be heard!!! This is the right way to save the party.
I will be leaving the party for good if they give in an inch on this. Democrats have had testicular fortitude issues in the last few election cycles. Any compromise is a so weak I will be forced to to do the unthinkable and disavow the party, I don't care if Obama's nomination is intact or not. I can't support the weakness.
Sore Loser is not a quality i would like to see in a president. Neither is vindictive, manipulative and selfish. Why can't just ONE person interview Hillary and ask her why she thinks the Florida and Michigan votes should count. If she thought that, why in the world did she sign the pledge that vowed they would not count. I would LOVE to see her stammer her way out of that one- and NO ONE HAS EVER JUST FLAT OUT ASKED HER WHY SHE SIGNED THE PLEDGE...it makes me insane! we all know that if she lost those two states we would never hear about them- can't anyone see she does NOT care about the voters...and by the way...I live in florida!!!!!!!
I can't stand this woman anymore! Screw her and her sense of entitlement! DO NOT seat those delegates DNC or you will have some serious problems on your hands in the U.S.!
It is so disingenuous of the Clinton campaign to cry foul on MIchigan and Florida saying that all the votes need to count when A. she agreed to the original rules and B. she goes through and completely discounts 14 states because they are caucus states. She's grasping at straws, she's desperate and at some point she needs to realize that she lost. Obama played by the rules he ran a fabulous campaign overcoming monstrous odds running against a near incumbent, and he's come out on top. The Super delegates would be forced to overturn the results of the primaries and caucuses, is this really how we want the presidential candidate chosen?
Senator Obama announces new fifty-seven state strategy. Since he apparently knows about 7 more states that other candidates do not seem to have information about, he expects to win a land-slide victory over former speaker of the House Newt Gingrich in the November election.
Don for Obama May 28th, 2008 1:43 pm ET
From what I know, the popular vote does not
count in November, so why should that be her sole argument, will she be
telling McCain to give up the presidency in November if she won the
popular vote and lost the electoral college votes?
Answer: YES
the Beyotch is CRAZY!!!!!!
You are delusional, just as bad as a crazy republican blindly defending Bush. Give it up, she lost fair and square. Go away Clintonities,Please go away!
Why can't they give Hillary all of Michigan's delegates?
HE HAD THE FREAKIN CHANCE TO PUT HIS FREAKIN NAME ON THE BALLOT?
WHY THE H*** DIDN'T HE??!!!
THAT WAS HIS CONSCIENCE DECISION!
HILLARY OR MCCAIN '08/'12!
Yeah cnn moderate that since you never post my comments anyway.....
CNN= Clinton News Network!!!!!
Don't worry Barack God has your back! You will win despite all Clinton is doing!
So even after a hypothetical compromise regarding FL and MI, she will still trail in delegate count.
What will she attempt to argue next?
BTW CNN it's still not too late to report on the upcoming PETER PAUL VS. CLINTON TRIAL. You know the one that the mainstream media has chosen to ignore...(Google PETER PAUL VS. CLINTON)
If Obama can receive a headline story misstating the name of a concentration camp. Then surely the fact that a former President/First lady are being sued for Fraud would be a story of note.
Diane May 28th, 2008 1:42 pm ET
I so hate pant suits now. I am calling for a National Pant Suit Burning Day!
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Now we all know what you want for Christmas.. LOL *wink*
Hillary is out of reason why she should be the nominee, she lost 33 states, lost in pledged and superdelegates, now she is trying to claim florida and michgan to get the popular vote. Even is she wins the Popular vote that does not count in the general election if this was the case Al Gore would of been the president instead of Bush, so stop your spin hillary and go home.
Did someone mention this is long past over already?
As long as it's fair!!!!!! I really dont care what they do
Obama 08/12!!!
Obama is not the kind of change I'm seeking. YOu can tell alot about a person based on who his supporters are. Just read some of the posts by Obamabots on CNN and other blogs and you will get a taste of what they are like. They are not uniters, they are dividers and the change they want is bad for america. They want to change America from a "pride" mentality to a "blame America first" mentality. They are distinctly anti-American in every aspect. Just look at Daily Kos, Moveon.org and the likes of Michael Moore to see who is standing behind Obama. It's scary to a conservative Democrat like me. For that reason I'll be voting for a Republican presidential candidate for the first time in my life. So will my 68 year old mother.
As a Hillary supporter, I am willing to accept her defeat and congratulate the Obama supporters on their win.
Now all I need to do is contact the McCain camp asking them where the "Democrats for McCain" yard signs are.
Aaahhh, to be able to sit back and watch the republicans swiftboat Obama will be a real treat this summer.
Will the whining and blaming ever end!!
People keep stating rules are rules. Lets not forget Obama did break the rules in Florida. Both candidate did agree not to campaign there and Obama released TV comercial ads. Obama's camp decided to take his name off the ballot in Michigan, the Clinton camp did not force him to do this. We should allow to seat Florida and Michigan because we will need them in the General Election. Lets not forget we will NEED FLORIDA!
Obama people stop trashing our candiate we Hillary supporters are getting pissed and we will show you in November. I see a lot of blogs stating Hillary is dividing this party. I am sorry but it is Obama who has done this NOT HIllary. The Obama Camp claims the Clinton did so much race baiting (which we know it is not true) the comments stated by the Clinton camp were spun out of context and not to mention the Obama camp thrived because of this. The reason Obama has 90% of the African American vote is because he is black. He does not have the qualifications to be our next President.
The truth is race is a big issue and doubt very much Obama will win the General Election. The is the future of our country not some GQ contest.
What about the hundreds of thousands that stayed home thinking their vote didn't count? The states should not be counted as is because it is not a fair representation.