May 29, 2008
Posted: 07:50 AM ET

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McCain said Friday that Obama’s foreign policy was displayed naivete.
McCain said Friday that Obama’s foreign policy was displayed naivete.

BEVERLY HILLS, California (CNN) – Before heading to a Los Angeles fundraiser Wednesday night, John McCain spoke to reporters about news that Barack Obama is considering a trip to Iraq. McCain said he is happy his likely Democratic opponent is mulling it over and believes Obama would change his tune after spending some time in the country.

“[I was] glad to hear that Senator Obama is now, quote, 'considering' a trip to Iraq,” said McCain. “It's long overdue. It's been 871 days since he was there and I'm confident that when he goes he will then change his position on the conflict in Iraq because he will see the success that has been achieved on the ground.”

Obama’s announcement follows days of McCain and his allies blasting Obama for not having visited Iraq recently. The Republican National Committee even went so far as to post a counter on their homepage displaying the number of days it has been since the Illinois senator’s last trip in January 2006.

“John McCain’s proposal is nothing more than a political stunt,” the Obama campaign told CNN Tuesday after McCain said he would be happy to accompany Obama on a trip to Iraq.

“More than 4,000 brave young Americans have given their lives,” McCain responded. “To say that my urging a person who wants to be president of the United States to go to Iraq for the first time in 871 days and see the situation for himself and to call that a publicity stunt is a fundamental misunderstanding of the gravity of this issue.”

McCain tiptoed around the news of the day, excerpts from former White House press secretary Scott McClellan’s forthcoming book that accuse the Bush administration of using propaganda to convince the American public war in Iraq was justified.

“I was not working in the White House,” said McCain, “so I don’t know, and I have not read the book so I cannot make an additional comment.”

McCain also avoided predicting how much President Bush would be seen campaigning for him leading up to November’s election. Bush attended a fundraiser for McCain on Tuesday night that was followed by a very brief photo-op, further fueling speculation that McCain is embracing the president’s ability to raise money but steering clear of being associated with his low approval ratings.

“I was glad that he was there, that’s all there is to it. There’s nothing more,” said McCain.

Filed under: Barack Obama • John McCain


Mike from Westchester   May 29th, 2008 10:43 am ET

Perhaps he is right. Senator Obama should keep an open mind about the war. If it is clear that we can do more good by staying the course for a limited period of time, so be it. A precipitous withdrawal that creates chaos is not in the best interest of Iraq, the region, our allies, the U.S., and the world in general.

However, McCain does not appear to have an open mind on this. He wants to plow ahead toward a "victory" regardless of its probability of success or its cost. He is so concerned with "surrendering", which a pull out is not, that he becomes dangerous to our soldiers and everyone else involved or affected by this truly "dumb" war.

What we should not do is stay in for an undetermined amount of time to pursue a marginal chance at a dubious victory that is more about saving (Republican) face, than about doing what is best. If we do mindlessly stay in Iraq then it is true that Iraq = Viet Nam.

No Obama   May 29th, 2008 10:43 am ET

Obama is not going to go anywhere as dangerous as Iraq. Just wait and see if he goes. NOT. He knows nothing about anything that is going on.

The Oracle   May 29th, 2008 10:43 am ET

For all of McCain's war record, he doesn't have common sense. Can anybody explain to me why the repugs think they can solve in a decade what centuries of war and strife could not?? I'm talking about the political, ethnic, and religious problems. Because until they do that, we just have a finger in the hole.

Sheila WA   May 29th, 2008 10:41 am ET

I care about joblessness, homelessness, healthcare and if Sen McCain really wants to honor the troops, he can campaign on how he is going to help make their quality of life better when they get back home. He can start by explaining to the Vets (to their faces) who are missing limbs, eyes, etc…why he veto'd the very bill that would help them get an education and a better job. It's not likely those maimed vets are going to go back and re-enlist. Obama is for a reasonable withdrawl, McCain want's another 100 yrs..

Shawna   May 29th, 2008 10:40 am ET

Obama can go to Iraq, but the fact remains the political situation has not changed. The leaders of Iraq still have no plan or structure, they have not lived up to their part of the bargain, they can't secure their own territory, and neither can the U.S., We are using Iran and former terrorist to secure the country of Iraq. The same leaders the administration and McCain call the Axis of Evil. This problem was created by Republicans they should be in Iraq, not Obama. Additionally the security risk and plans to bring a presidential candidate are extremely important, they have greater things to deal with rather than a following candidates around the base. It sounds like McCain is looking for Obama to go to Iraq so that he can get injured since he is aware of the dangers that remain in the country.

Not Clinton   May 29th, 2008 10:40 am ET

Obama is not the POTUS yet. He has been too busy with Hillary to go anywhere. I am sure when he feels the time is right he will go. It is a little hasty to go now. He needs to wait for HRC to drop out.
Let McBush do it if he must but it is a huge burden for our troops to have a candidate there. They are a little busy with other things.

OBAMA 4 President   May 29th, 2008 10:39 am ET

As a democrat, if you're going to vote for McCain instead of Obama, fine, SHUTUP about it, why must you keep saying it over and over like you have tourrettes!

McCain is like a baby, a very old baby, always trying to taunt Obama but never works!

fj johnson   May 29th, 2008 10:39 am ET

why we have bush and mccian comdy show

John in Virgina   May 29th, 2008 10:38 am ET

If Iraq is so safe now, as McCain says, then 1) there should be no reason we can not bring the troops home, and 2) why is it that when he goes, we never see him walking the streets without an armed mob of US soldiers and a few armored choppers overhead. I'll believe his spin when he goes for a jog like he is able to on a sunny day at noon in Central Park. The truth is, troops are still getting killed and injured, and the region has not stablized. It is not going to no matter how long we stay. That is someone else's country and they are not going to welcome the idea of the U.S. effectively trying to stage a takeover of power. It isn't gonna happen. McCain says we've made progress and the conditions are great when it's time to convince people that we can win, but when it's time to give a reason for continuing this war based on a lie, he says things are unstable. Well which is it? He can't have it both ways. We need to be investing in the talent of American engineers to create new energy, and stop trying paint all Muslims as terrorists so that we may take oil that is on their land.

Larry   May 29th, 2008 10:38 am ET

It amazes me at how many people refer to the 4,000 individuals killed in Iraq, this must be an enormous number to a lot of people, and deserving of attention? So then why is it Ok that we kill over 250,000 individuals each year on our nations highways, and it goes un-noticed? We lose a mere 4,000 in our efforts to secure the safety of the US and everyone gets upset., Right, wrong, or indifferant a good number of those killed wanted to be there, and were there because they wanted to be a part of helping to protect the US. No differant than why i I joined the USMC while a senior in HS in 1967. I could not have lived with myself knowing I had the opportunity to support the values of this great country and go to Viet Nam, and not have done so. I served three consecutive tours in VN from May 1968 thru July 1970, and I would not have missed the opportunity for the world. For each of the 4,000 that have been killed, and for any future deaths in Iraq, I salute each and evry one of these individuals not only for the choice they made but for their service as well. No one who has not served in combat could ever understand our committment to our Country.

aj johnson   May 29th, 2008 10:37 am ET

yea obama go to iraq but he will stand his word because bush got us in this Iraq mess now one of friends route a book about bush mess up past now i think mccain go do the samething now mccain show up late show plese stop try funny you same spot as bush right now and no more bush and mccian suck comdy show because is joke we don't need it . obama nation will takeover house because he got reans get out iraq and bring america together and on top or anther
mccian suck comdy show you make deal

vote now
obama nation 08

Miller   May 29th, 2008 10:36 am ET

I seem to have missed the part where Obama agreed to go to Iraq as many people are alluding. The word quoted was "considering," and is it not right to take a request under advisement?

At the end of the day, however, it's foolish for any of the Presidential candidates to visit Iraq at this time. The security needed to guarantee their safety is substantial. And the political shakeup that would ensue if one of them were hurt at this point in the race is too tempting a prize for extremists.

Besides, there is suffiicient enough campaigning ahead on American soil than to burden National Security with photo opportunity excursions to war-torn countries.

Jim   May 29th, 2008 10:36 am ET

DNC should run a counter on the number of days since McCain has done anything but to be GWBush's puppet candidate. That would be several years in the running already. The so-called Maverick candidate has voted with Bush 95% of the time.

blair   May 29th, 2008 10:36 am ET

Yes please go to Iraq maybe you can liberate a camp over there.Give it up people Hillary has done nothing to damage the Democratic party or any one else.. You need to take your blinders off. obama and his masters are the ones that set out to destroy the Parties and the constitution. You all are an example of what is in store for the country if he gets in. The people have had no control over this fiasco yet. For obamas people to even insinuate that the Clintons or any one else not for him would harm him show how much hatred he has installed in his followers. he reminds me of Hitler.

Cynthia   May 29th, 2008 10:36 am ET

Senator Obama would have to go over there and come back and tell us the situation. I definitely don't believe any of the Republicans after the relevalations that have come out as a confirmation of what people already knew.

Ed   May 29th, 2008 10:35 am ET

The only acceptable visit to Iraq is an announced one with red carpet treatment from the Maliki administration. Just like they gave Amadinijad. This way, we can really judge the PROGRESS on the ground. We cannot keep sneaking in and out of a country we occupied for the past 5 years and claim progress. McCain should be ashamed for suggesting the same OLD tired rhethoric. He must be loosing his bearings.

NoMcSame   May 29th, 2008 10:35 am ET

To Obama: PLEASE DON'T GO. Why does McKiller want you to go there so bad? REMEMBER: RON BROWN. Don't trust them or him. We the people need you right here to fight the good fight here in the U.S.
Let McSame go to Iraq and stay there until his stipid war is over.
The truth is out now about McSame, Hillary and Bush so just do what you are doing and do our boys and girls good by bringing them HOME. What good would it do anyway, to please McSame?
Don't let McSame Ron Brown you.
NoMcSame….. NAVY Vet. for OBAMA08

A CANUCK   May 29th, 2008 10:35 am ET

DON'T GIVE ADVICE OR TALK DOWN TO OBAMA………….OLD MAN !!!!
YOU COULD LEARN A LOT FROM THIS BRIGHT, YOUNG MAN WHO LOOKS AND TALKS MORE PRESIDENTIAL EVERY DAY. OBAMA2008

Rose - Baltimore, MD   May 29th, 2008 10:34 am ET

CNN could you update people on the delegate count. You are displaying old information on your front page. Obama had 4 supers yesterday which you did not report and one today. I just got the information from MSNBC website. Guys for up to-date information please visit msnbc.com ( on first read by Chris Dodd).

blair   May 29th, 2008 10:33 am ET

Give it up people Hillary has done nothing to damage the Democratic party or any one else.. You need to take your blinders off. obama and his masters are the ones that set out to destroy the Parties and the constitution. You all are an example of what is in store for the country if he gets in. The people have had no control over this fiasco yet. For obamas people to even insinuate that the Clintons or any one else not for him would harm him show how much hatred he has installed in his followers. he reminds me of Hitler.

Good for McCain   May 29th, 2008 10:33 am ET

Good for McCain! Force Obama to actually do something and put his money where his BIG mouth is! Obama has NO idea how Iraq is doing. NO IDEA WHATSOEVER, because he hasn't been there to see the progress (which many, including the United Nations leader, have said is astounding and moving in the right direction). Even Angelina Jolie, who recently visited Iraq, said she wants America to stay and go the distance to get things in place. She saw the people and talked with them and THEY WANT Americans there supporting them until they can get on their feet. Whether you believe we should have gone in the first place is no longer the point. What matters is that we need to fix what we broke, and to leave would be IRRESPONSIBLE and OBAMA-LIKE! Obama is clueless. Good for McCain for pushing his inexperienced selt up against a wall!

The Patriot   May 29th, 2008 10:31 am ET

It has LOTS to do w/ the issues here at home……..what hole have you been under?

What is the prob Obama? Can't take the heat? Go see those soldiers you are saying 'we will bring you home as soon as I get into office' and then come back and tell us what you see. You are not the person I want as the POTUS. See those soldiers, admit that there is progress, see those Iraqi faces and then abandon them to suffer the fate that we have handed them. We have an obligation so help those people. Or did you not learn that lesson yet?

ashes   May 29th, 2008 10:31 am ET

I'm sry, but a lot of the media today plays on what is going to get them ratings. They see that some people are upset by us going to war, the sell books to make a profit off of it, the show videos that dont always tell the full truth. It doesn't matter how much it make the people that are there fighting feel unwanted. It doesnt matter, one is going to hand Iraq to the other countries on a platter and were going to have nothing but killings again there and the other one wants to finish what we started and attempt to bring the country to a better point take your choice which do you want to deal with later. remember if it doesnt clean up you have to worry about your kids/grandkids going back and stopping other countries from taking over a child country… which is where that country is.

Carmon   May 29th, 2008 10:29 am ET

McCain, no one has to go to Iraq just because you said so. Who the hell are you. I know you are banking on this Iraq thing but dont you see nobody's buying this crap. No One wants to continue this was except you and the rest of those Bush THUGS. When was the last time you spoke about anything other that the war. We should start a countdown of how many times McCain says war. Probably about 100 times a day.

McCain is old   May 29th, 2008 10:29 am ET

Why on Earth must this old coot continue to base his entire campaign on a failed war. There can be no victory in Iraq! There is no way out that wont result in chaos and bloodshed, so lets get out now! I served my country, and find it repulsive that Mccain hides behind his service to shore up his ignorance of world affairs.

Chuck   May 29th, 2008 10:29 am ET

McCain, don't you remember what happened to you in the 2000 campaign? Your mentor and good friend Bush threw every lie in the book at you. Why do continue to endear yourself to him? Obviously, you need his fund raising to much. Don't you dare call yourself a maverick any more. This persona not longer fits you anymore.

enoch needles   May 29th, 2008 10:28 am ET

I'm sure McSame could dig up a "Mission Accomplished" banner for Obama to take with him. Give it up, Johnny.

Jeff in Hampshire, IL   May 29th, 2008 10:27 am ET

Gaylon Barrow (above) is delusional. If you get your information from reading the news, maybe you should stick to reading the backs of cereal boxes.

Natasha/Supporter of Democrats   May 29th, 2008 10:27 am ET

One month of less numbers mean another month of increase.

I can't believe that you actually can use one month to justify progress.

Are you people kidding? There should not even be a war.

I say, Bush should be brought to trail and after his term has be finish. To slammer for him.

AJ, IL   May 29th, 2008 10:27 am ET

Obama simply has to entertain the idea of a trip to Iraq prior to the general election. Obama can simply tout the tactical success of our troops in Iraq and heap praise onto Gen. Petreaus, but then nail McCain on the issue of safety in Iraq and Americans here at home by simply recounting details of McCain's trips to Iraq (i.e. walking around in bulletproof vests, under the protection of dozens of US military in already secured areas, and in the best armored humvees is what McCain calls being safe!)

Meanwhile Obama can pivot back to important domestic issues.

Janet Swanson   May 29th, 2008 10:26 am ET

McCain is correct - but now it is time to put it to the Iraqis - VERY SOON now take care of your own Country.
Janet S
Michigan

Maggie VT   May 29th, 2008 10:26 am ET

Mr. McCain-
After your comments yesterday about Iran, I don't think Obama will be changing his mind. This just goes to show you really are not up on foriegn policy as musch as you think you are!!!

Janet Swanson   May 29th, 2008 10:24 am ET

85% of us in Real Estate in our State are voting for McCain now and the older women you won't believe the high percentage going to McCain. Then there is the Hispanics…and the White Men who won't vote for Obama.
Landslide in Nov for McCain it appears.
Janet S
Ohio

Glenn   May 29th, 2008 10:24 am ET

I think it is hilarious that Barack Obama is always responding to something - either Hillary Clinton, John McCain or some other controversy. It appears with this Iraq stunt, McCain has goaded Obama into going to Iraq and that his decision to visit the country is only after McCain brought it up. This is EXACTLY how I would want my President to behave and act! Reminiscent of George W. Bush "responding" to Hurricane Katrina, instead of being proactive and doing whats needed in the beginning.

Obama, you definitely do not have my vote in November if you are the nominee.

McCain, I like you personally better than Obama, but I don't agree with your stances on the war and so you probably will not have my vote in November.

Clinton, if now is not your time…you better come back in '12 and/or '16.

truthurts   May 29th, 2008 10:24 am ET

Don't do it. The protection needed by troops and helicopters is not worth the photo op. It's a trap.

Natasha/Supporter of Democrats   May 29th, 2008 10:23 am ET

Bush and McCain should stand trail for WAR CRIMES!!!!!

Obama is protected. I am not worried about the heathens around him. White America is not ready for the problems that they will face with that trip. I suggest McCain find new ways to attack Obama.

May God have mercy on your souls. Amen

Dennis   May 29th, 2008 10:23 am ET

I'm a little unclear on this Iraq trip requirement. According to McCain and the Republicans, you aren't fit to be president if you don't make some sort of regular trip to Iraq. How often does one have to go? Or, is this a requirement of our Senators? If so, how often do they have to go? Last time I checked the Constitution, it didn't say anything about requiring Senators to go to Iraq or to be qualified to be President, you must make a regular trip to Iraq. I'm curious, in McCain's version of the Constitution, what other countries must one go to in order to be qualified?

Caroline   May 29th, 2008 10:23 am ET

I don't get why having been a POW qualifies a candidate any more than anyone else when it comes to foreign policy positions, or being commander in chief. The main qualification should be judgement, intelligence, and a willingness to be flexible with changing circumstances. McCain does not rank highly with me on any of those qualities.

Plus, he just seems too CRANKY to be President. And I really really hate that "my friends" thing he does. I am NOT his friend, and to me it has a condesdending tone to it that I do not like one bit.

Obama '08

Jon   May 29th, 2008 10:23 am ET

Since Obama is on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, it would be nice for him to actually travel somewhere outside the U.S. He is still a Senator first and foremost.

Gerald, WV   May 29th, 2008 10:23 am ET

Obama doesn't need to see the scripted dog and pony show the administration would put together. However, a secret tour with CNN's Michael Ware might prove very useful in so far as knowing the actual conditions on the ground without the Bush spin.

Charlotte   May 29th, 2008 10:22 am ET

My grandson just returned from Iraq. He advised me to not believe what the media is reporting. They are succeeding in Iraq, the average person wants us there. He worked with the people and has a better view then I do, so I believe him. Obama is a coward who can't even clean up the mess in his hometown? How can he clean up the mess this whole country is in?

wilma   May 29th, 2008 10:22 am ET

Americans may not like it, but until we have an alternative energy policy (long overdue) in our country, we will continue to pay the price for OIL! This country runs on OIL……..not AIR. That's a reality, folks, accept it. If you think filling up your car is painful now, just wait until this winter, when you are paying to heat your home with heating oil. It's UGLY, but even if Obama wins, we will not be leaving Irag for a long, long, long time. He is blowing smoke up you know where. No American President will allow the extremists to take control of the region (code word for OIL) our country cannot survive without OIL.

Jay   May 29th, 2008 10:21 am ET

Good move by Obama, but not because Grumpy McBush says so… folks tend to forget that contributions from military members went to two candidates above all others by a pretty decent margin - Ron Paul when he was in the race and then/now Obama. Grampy isn't getting the individual soldier money that Obama is, and I wonder if/when that tidbit will hit the news.

Kenneth M   May 29th, 2008 10:20 am ET

The Republican National Committee even went so far as to post a counter on…

THAT IS SO CHILDISH. NO WONDER THEY ARE LOOSING. THEY SHOULD BE FOCUSEING ON HOW MANY SOLDERS HAVE LOST THERE MINDS SINCE THE FIGHTING HAS STARTED. WHY DONT THEY HAVE A COUNTER FOR THAT. OR HOW MANY HAVE KILLED THEMSELVES.

Von Bismark VIENNA   May 29th, 2008 10:20 am ET

IN IRAQ HE WILL SEE BUT THREE THINGS:

1) STREETS STAINED BY THE BLOOD OF MORE THAN 4000 AMERICAN SOLDIERS WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES IN A WAR THAT SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN PERMITTED

2)THE STEAM OF IRAQI BLOOD FLOWING FOR AN UNJUST CAUSE

3)THE HORRIBLE DESTRUCTION OF THE NEW GENERATION OF HI-TECH BOMBS FROM THE ARSNAL OF BUSH(THE INCARNATION OF EVIL)

INTERESTINGLY mcinsain SAYS HE DID NOT HAVE SPECIFIC INFORMATION TO RULE HIS DECISION TO PERMIT SUCH A DIRTY WAR.

WHAT A SHAME!

T. Brown in Texas   May 29th, 2008 10:19 am ET

I do believe that this is a political stunt but I also believe that it is a good idea for Senator Obama to go talk to the soldiers that are actually on the ground in Iraq. My brother just came home from 2 tours in Iraq and I am sure that he would have loved the opportunity to tell the Senator what's really going on in Iraq with a very candid interview. McCain may have just shot himself in the foot with this one.

AJ   May 29th, 2008 10:19 am ET

It wont make any difference. Obama is the G.W. Bush of the Democratic party and nothing will change his stance on anything. Contrary to his record, he has convinced a bunch of morons that he is capable of running the nation. I have not supported a Republican in 30 years but will be happily supporting McCain in the fall. Anyone would be better than Obama and his disgusting followers. The quicker Obama and his cult are kicked off the national stage the better.

Anonymous   May 29th, 2008 10:19 am ET

Hey obama, watch out for snipers while you're over there…..

Wise White Guy   May 29th, 2008 10:18 am ET

So let me get this straight. If Obama goes to Iraq he will see that everything is going well. But if Obama gradually pulls the troops out it will be a disaster. You say that Obama does not have the knowledge and experience on Foreign policy and yet he was openly against going to war when it was an unpopular position while you not only were for it then but are for it now. Is this really what you want to base your campaign on? I think if the GOP brand of fear mongering actually manages to scare enough ignorant Americans and you win the general election i think you need to start asking Mr. Obama how you should handle our Foreign Policy decisions from now on. You Mr. McCain are nothing but an ignorant puppet who has sold out in every way you can. The funny thing is that you don't even have a clue. Perhaps you did have a clue and then could not remember it the next day. All I can say is you better get some magic pill to correct that eye tick you get when you are about 3 seconds from the lecturn rage that we all can see coming. I don;t know about anyone else but I think its a great idea to take a guy who is forgetfull at best (or he would be a flip-flopping liar) a hair trigger temper, clueless and being played like a fiddle by smarter people, oh yeah and Post Tramatic Stress Disorder and GIVE HIM THE BUTTON TO LAUNCH NUCLEAR WEAPONS!!!!!!!

From Bill Clinton   May 29th, 2008 10:18 am ET

To Obama:

I am writing this on my laptop the bathroom of Hil liar y's plane. Don't go to Iraq. Its a set up devised by Dubya, McSane and co signed by my wife!

W. Mike Upstate NY   May 29th, 2008 10:16 am ET

There is NO WINNER in any war. Those that died fighting for the American way of these United States and those that oppose the fact they we have invaded their homeland. They and we all bleed red have lost
someone near and dear .
It doesn't matter whom you vote for . It matters on
why and the principle on which you vote.
I have not heard nor has anyone mentioned that Sen. Obama was going to do anything but have an honorable pull out of Iraq. The idea that this should continue any longer than one more drop of blood being spilt for some idea or lie is sick and makes the United States look even more foolish to the other world nations.

Generation X   May 29th, 2008 10:14 am ET

McCain why don't you visit the young military people in the hospital that has lost parts of their body over this Republican war!!! Better still McCain take your rich wife and go live in Iraq.

THE NEW REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED

Bruce   May 29th, 2008 10:14 am ET

Will he wear a flack jacket like McCain did and then talk about how safe it was?

Gary Chandler in Canada   May 29th, 2008 10:13 am ET

McCain did not accept Obama's challenge for a public debate! Instead he offers to give a 'guided' tour of Iraq?
If anything, Obama should give McCain the tour and select the Zones and Regions.
McCain, a 'straight talker' would accept a debate challenge, not run and hide behind Bush!

21 yr old in nebraska   May 29th, 2008 10:11 am ET

the man wants to visit iraq to learn more about iraq. nothing more. he is not president yet. therefore, he is still an honest man.

mccain believes there has been progress in iraq because he probably visited one of the cities where there has been progress in iraq, because the administration had him visit one of the cities where there had been progress in iraq, so he could tell people there has been progress in iraq. that's all there is to it.

obviously iraq can't be better off in some places, and worse off in others. it's all one or the other.

my personal opinion is that before the war, the iraqis were living in an oppressive police state, and after the war, the iraqis are living in an oppressive police state. and mccain's plan is to make iraq more of a police state to make it less of a police state. which is why i will be voting for my third choice among the democrats, senator obama.

i would like to add finally that i am on facebook.com, and they have message boards like this on certain political issues. and the posts on facebook, the high school and college social networking site, are about ten thousand times more literate and informed than the posts on the highly respected, most prominent world-wide news network's website, cnn.com. reading these threads is frightening.

Republican in Idaho   May 29th, 2008 10:09 am ET

What exactly is success? Is success playing babysitter and standing between two groups of people to keep them from fighting? We can not be in Iraq forever. We can not afford it, and it is not our country. The minute we leave, whether it be tomorrow or 10 years from now, the religious tensions between these groups will still be there as they have been for hundreds of years. We can not change their mind. It is a fundamental of what they believe. We are only wasting lives, time, and money by staying there. We made our bed by removing Saddam, the only one keeping these sects in check, and now we have to lie in it.

The O   May 29th, 2008 10:09 am ET

Obama is going to go there and say, and just say it's really time to get out!!!! McCain is insane we have been there for 6 years and what political progress have they made none. and they will never come together, John Mccain needs to pick up a history book and read it.
Becuase the Sunni, Shia, and Kurds will never unite, they have been at each others throats for CENTURIES. And bush and McCain think they can change this becuase they say so, is not only stupid it is so arrogant. who the hell do they think they are tring to tell anybody how to live.
bush and McCain two OLD men yelling at clouds!!!!!!

BARACK / SEBELIUS 08
BARACK THE VOTE!!!!!!!!

dan   May 29th, 2008 10:09 am ET

Success means we can leave, thats not surrender. Who's paying the bill for this mess? I'm all out of money, maybe Mccains wife can pay for it.

Thomas   May 29th, 2008 10:09 am ET

Ron wrote
"Senator McCain's last visit required we wrap him up like a bubble boy to keep snipers from shooting him and then after touring the very center of the "green zone", expressed the progress made and how "safe" Iraq had become (if only he walked about 5 clicks to the south without 80 men covering every angle he would have a vastly different opinion if he even lived to have one)."

That is a very good point, and it's nice to hear from the horses mouth.

Uncle Sam   May 29th, 2008 10:09 am ET

Let's review the current status of Iraq:

*Emerging democracy
*Defeat of al-Qaeda
*Muslims turning to US military for help
*Troop cuts
*Dramatically improved human rights situation

Jay in Chicago   May 29th, 2008 10:09 am ET

I have been waiting for this moment for 15 long long arduous months. Now it is almost upon us and I couldn't be happier. However, I must say that I've been getting some paranoid feelings that Clinton is going to take this fight all the way to the convention. It would be a big shame if she does that and it would cause irreparable damage to the democratic parties chances in november. I just hope her supporters are smarter and more sensible than she is and come to the conclusion that so many of us already have: that this woman is more concerned with her own ambition than turning the page on the bush administration. here are some words that describe her: SELFISH, DISHONEST, UNTRUSTWORTHY, MANIPULATIVE, STUBBORN, BITTER, COMBATIVE,

Norb   May 29th, 2008 10:08 am ET

You go John! McCain/Lieberman/Keating 08!

Ramesh Wadhwani   May 29th, 2008 10:07 am ET

Obama doesn't need Grandpa McCain to escort him to Iraq. Oabama is a grown up Man and He will decide when He will visit Iraq.

sickofitall   May 29th, 2008 10:07 am ET

People who say that they'll vote for McCain if Hillary doesn't win the nominations are just plain stupid. Why would you do that? You're not better than these evil politicians. You're just playing the same games they play.

And who wants to go to Iraq anyway? The Iraqis are trying to get out of Iraq. I know I wouldn't go where I know I'm not welcome. I don't even like my mother telling me what to do, let alone a total stranger from a different country with a gun to my face.

Jan from Boca Raton, Fl   May 29th, 2008 10:06 am ET

No one will ever convience Obama of anthing, he's a know it all.

All you have to do is listen to his wife call the white people "WHITEY"

And she wants to be first lady? What a disgrace.

taylor richmond virginia   May 29th, 2008 10:05 am ET

is McCain losing his marbles?

mel   May 29th, 2008 10:05 am ET

Mccain,let us talk about local issues,you are more focus on
the war in iraq. We as americans and tax payer would like to take
issues in the United States,not in Iraq. So if Obama haven't been
to Iraq,he is going to push ours troops out of a war that should not
happen. So stop trying to talk about Obama because you have
issues yourself.

Farrell, Houston, Tx   May 29th, 2008 10:05 am ET

Furthermore, our soldiers have a high rate of suicide, MCSHAME.

Jan from Boca Raton, Fl   May 29th, 2008 10:04 am ET

Who Cares Obama will never beat McCain

Clinton or McCain 08

Sara   May 29th, 2008 10:03 am ET

If someone disagrees/attacks Obama it is a political stunt. It is the catch-all response because it makes it seem as if he would *never* stoop to that level, but just because he says it doesn't make it true. It's such a lame come-back.

Obama should be criticized for being out of touch with the war…if he is going to be president he can't just magically extract the troops, it's going to take effort and negotiation and strategy, so it IS important that he go over there once in a while.

Jean   May 29th, 2008 10:02 am ET

I bet they are sharping their sights, LOOK OUT!!

Stephanie   May 29th, 2008 10:02 am ET

I don't think it would be wise for Obama to focus on going to Iraq until after he has clinched the nomination. He needs to stay focused on completing this election and then start to tackle the issues at hand.

I don't think the American people are ready to go back to a Republican president after the last eight years. If they are, then I would look at whose payroll they are on because the majority of the American people are hurting financially right now.

Stephanie Williams

Stephanie   May 29th, 2008 10:02 am ET

I don't think it would be wise for Obama to focus on going to Iraq until after he has clinched the nomination. He needs to stay focused on completing this election and then start to tackle the issues at hand.

I don't think the American people are ready to go back to a Republican president after the last eight years. If they are, then I would look at whose payroll they are on because the majority of the American people are hurting financially right now.

Stephanie Williams

Lureen   May 29th, 2008 10:01 am ET

It is beyond me, as to why McBush still insists on using the unnecessary slaying of 4000+ of our dedicated men and women, as a stepping stone to the Presidency. I am disgusted.

PROUD VET   May 29th, 2008 10:00 am ET

I think mc c is moderating my comment, it´s been there over an hour and he forgot about it.

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JohnLee   May 29th, 2008 10:00 am ET

So let's see, that means Obama has to get the military to clear the streets of the "evil" guys and stun gun everything that moves wrong as he walks down the street. That would make him believe that Iraq is a success because it would be on equal ground with McCain. Of course it might not actually be true, but at least Obama, like McCain did, would give the appearance that everything is rosy in Iraq! It is sad just how we deceive ourselves to make our own egos feel superior, better and loved.

Stephanie Williams   May 29th, 2008 9:59 am ET

I don't think it would be wise for Obama to focus on going to Iraq until after he has clinched the nomination. He needs to stay focused on completing this election and then start to tackle the issues at hand.

I don't think the American people are ready to go back to a Republican president after the last eight years. If they are, then I would look at whose payroll they are on because the majority of the American people are hurting financially right now.

JohnLee   May 29th, 2008 9:58 am ET

So let's see, that means Obama has to get the military to clear the streets of the "evil" guys and stun gun everything that moves wrong as he walks down the street. That would make him believe that Iraq is a success because it would be on equal ground with McCain. Of course it might not actually be true, but at least Obama, like McCain did, would give the appearance that everything is rosy in Iraq! It is sad just how we deceive ourselves to make our own egos feel superior, better and loved.

Stephanie Williams   May 29th, 2008 9:58 am ET

I don't think it would be wise for Obama to focus on going to Iraq until after he has clinched the nomination. He needs to stay focused on completing this election and then start to tackle the issues at hand.

I don't think the American people are ready to go back to a Republican president after the last eight years. If they are, then I would look at whose payroll they are on because the majority of the American people are hurting financially right now.

Dave in Albuquerque   May 29th, 2008 9:57 am ET

The success in Iraq, such as it is, is entirely due to the intelligence and sacrifice of our armed forces. They have have taken a series of stupid decisions by the Bush administration, and have squeezed the best outcome possible from those decisions. The Iraqi government, on the other hand, is never going to give up the crutch we have provided it, until we force it to walk on its own. McCain's willingness to continue with the pattern of failed decisions is disturbing.

TAHARI in CT 4 OBAMA   May 29th, 2008 9:56 am ET

UMMMMMMMMMMM

McCain's trip to Iraq was NOT SUCCESSFULL. Why is he trying to "educate" people when he didnt even know the difference between the Shia(s) and Sunni(s)!!!!

HE NEEDED A TEACHERS AID HIMSELF!!! Who knows what would have happened if good ole Lieberman wasnt around to fix all the mistakes!!

Melvin   May 29th, 2008 9:56 am ET

God save America from RACIST!!!!!!!!!

pink   May 29th, 2008 9:55 am ET

Obama, DON'T GO!!! It is not necessary to visit what you already know is true - devestation, death, destruction, and heartache. What point will it serve? You voted against the war! There is no reason for you to prove to anyone what your "success" is. Wait until you're President. You'll have plenty of time to visit the Middle East. I think it would be a risk against your safety. Remember….. think PREVENTION and SAFETY FIRST!!!!

Obama '08

Stephanie Williams   May 29th, 2008 9:55 am ET

I don't think it would be wise for Obama to focus on going to Iraq until after he has clinched the nomination. He needs to stay focused on completing this election and then start to tackle the issues at hand. I don't think the American people are ready to go back to a Republican president after the last eight years. If they are, then I would question whose payroll they are on.

Robert in Toronto,ON   May 29th, 2008 9:55 am ET

If there is so much success in Iraq McCain, then you won't mind when Obama sends the troops home then.

Petra, Independendent from PA   May 29th, 2008 9:54 am ET

Obama doesn't need your patronizing remarks about going to Iraq. He can think for himself and exercise judgment which you or your republican zombies have not. Following Bush blindly with your Cowboy machismo!

rice, bryan   May 29th, 2008 9:54 am ET

i guess john mccain thinks that he is the person who can fix this horrible mess. the next president should see first hand what is going on over there in iraq. this white has lied and deceived us, now let someone see if they can straighten it out.

concerned   May 29th, 2008 9:54 am ET

Don't go Obama. It's a trap. Remember what Clinton said about June. Wait until you are president.

Umpire   May 29th, 2008 9:53 am ET

Those trips are little more than photo-ops for both candidates, other politicians and for the top generals. If McCain really thinks that he learned something significant in Iraq, he must have ignored the abundant information available in Washington. The whole issue is obviously McCain's attempt to push what he hopes voters will see as his natural security credentials. It's all smoke and mirrors. He was a genuine war hero but that status gives him no more insight into defense and foreign policy issues than either Clinton or Obama can obtain readily if they pick the right advisors. Presumably, McCain thinks that travel and the photo-ops provide the same insights.

Big endless spins   May 29th, 2008 9:53 am ET

No matter what Mc4more and the RNC machine says, this war was based on lies, our presence keeps inviting more Al qeada, and it is basically still a civil war however you spin it. We need to get out of Iraq.
We just learned from McClellan's new book that another big reason we went to war was Bush's crack at greatness!
These RNC games are not going to work - NOT THIS TIME!!

jim   May 29th, 2008 9:52 am ET

John McCain is a tool who votes consistently AGAINST veterans benefits… including his current vote against the 21st Century G.I. Bill. It's a bill that would pay full ride in-state tuition scholarships to those brave young boys and girls who have fought this (unconstitutional) war in Iraq (that Bush tricked our country into waging with propaganda and lies). We all want to reward these courageous young heroes who have served our country with honor, except for McCain of course. He voted against it. American hero? I think not, "my friends my friend my friends." Stick this on McCain's teleprompter: McCain = Bush 3rd Term.

Mac in Nova Scotia   May 29th, 2008 9:52 am ET

Just like John McCain, I also served 23 years in the US Army but the difference is that I got a life after I retired. I am 3 years older than McCain but I don't go around harping about my military experiences which included Viet Nam. If McCain knows so much about war then he should know that the loss of over 4,000 US troops and the wounding of 1000s more in a war that never should have happened is one very high price to pay. How many widows and orphans did this war create? How many parents saw their child go off to war, never to return? Get off it McCain and wake up. There was no need for this war but you for some reason want to continue it. You complain about Sen. Obama not having served in the military. He was too young for Viet Nam and too old for Iraq. Your great mentor G.W. Bush didn't serve and his predicessor, Bill Clinton was a draft dodger. As I said before, I am older than you but not quite as senile.

Joe Idaho   May 29th, 2008 9:52 am ET

America has never voted for the past…..

get real   May 29th, 2008 9:52 am ET

Mr. McCain please let's not get too silly during this race. We do realize that reconstruction of this nation that we destroyed must take place, but Mr. McCain we also realize that a limit must ve in place, we are NOT expecting to rebuild this entire nation, we can not afford lives nor finances to do so. We must make our dire needs a prioity. We have reached our limits there. It's time to bring our troops home, it's time to rebuild our own Katrina destroyed states, it's time to focus on our economic needs.

Jeff Rath - Alberta, Canada   May 29th, 2008 9:51 am ET

871 days since Obama was in Iraq. How many days since McCain has seen a psychiatrist for the Post Traumatic Stress Disorder he likely suffers from since he was "tortured for six years by a Cuban Major" in North Vietnam.

It is unlikely that a psychologist could be found to say that some one who had been tortured for six years didn't suffer from PTSD. McCain's volatile temper and fixation with "getting my hands on the Cuban Major" are likely symptomatic of the disorder.

Talking to freinds who have served in the US military, all have advised me that ther is no way in hell that if an officer who had control of nuclear weapon systems was captured by the enemy and tortured for six years by a Soviet trained mind control specialist that they would EVER be given control of those weapon systems upon release.

Why do we think it is even debatable that McCain should be given control of the entire US nuclear, chemical and biological weapons arsenal when he so obviously lacks the temperment to excercise the required judgement and restraint required for that position.

smart1   May 29th, 2008 9:51 am ET

WRONG AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Barack is the only candidate in this race who made the best decision in the face of the lies and deceit that was sold to the US Senate. He showed the best judgement and stood his ground under pressure. I am even more convinced that MCCAIN nor HILLARY are NOT the best candidate for the job of Commander and Chief . They are not experienced as they claim they are, they couldn't even detect that they were being sold a pack of LIES! I am sure that someone here has been touched in some way by this war because of many of the family members that are serving or have died in Iraq because of these LIES! Not to mention those Iraqui families that have died because of this LIE! They even put Saddam on trial and hung him on LIES!! he was a tyrant in his country but he was a human being. Meanwhile Osama Bin Ladin is still alive and he should be the one who was hung he killed our American people on 911. I am furious that you Clinton/ McCain supporters will stand behind these candidates in the face of this WAR OF LIES!

SO YOU WOMEN WHO ARE BEING USED BY HILLARY AND HER SPIN ON HOW UNFAIRLY SHE WAS TREATED DURING THIS ELECTION ARE ACTING FOOLISHLY. WHEN YOU SAY "I WON'T VOTE FOR BARACK" EITHER WAY IF YOU VOTE FOR HILLARY OR
MC CAIN YOU ARE CHOOSING THE WRONG CANDIDATE. THEY HAVE NO!!! EXPERIENCE , THEY USED BAD JUDGEMENT.
THEY ARE JUST GOOD AT ONE THING AND THAT'S ………..
LIEIING AND ACCEPTING LIES WITHOUT MORALS

please post

vic nashville,Tn   May 29th, 2008 9:51 am ET

Some one have to tell Barak Hussein Obama what to do?
1) Flag pen
2) Stop smoking
3) To Visit Iraq all these some one asked him to do
He is a boy so some one have tell him every time what to do!!!!!!!!!!

Concerned   May 29th, 2008 9:50 am ET

All McSame knows is "war." What about the other issues like the economy, jobs, high & higher gas prices, jobs shipped to other countries, kids can't afford school, families can't afford food…….and the list goes on and on.

I haven't heard McSame talk about any of these issues……I wonder why?

And all you so-called Democrats that says you will not vote for Obama-then you will get what you deserve come fall. Oh, that's right, you may not have kids in school, the gas prices doesn't affect you, you an afford the high prices of food…………. Please!

Observer   May 29th, 2008 9:49 am ET

Can this IDIOT MCCAIN TALK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE???

I am so SICK of IRAQ!!! 4000 U.S. CITIZENS MURDERED!!!!
Regardless of politics, regardless of pride, WHAT ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS??? THE RIGHT TO LIFE!!!

HOW HAS BUSH GOTTEN AWAY WITH GETTING INNOCENT SOLDIERS MURDERED FOR THE SAKE OF AN ILEGAL WAR, OIL, AND PRIDE..

SHAME ON THE REPUBLICAN PARTY..SHAME ON AMERICA IF THEY VOTE MCCAIN!!!

Tim   May 29th, 2008 9:48 am ET

Two Points:
1. If such progress has been made, it would make sense that a timely withdrawl could begin.
2. Obama doesn't need to go to Iraq to show support for the troops over there. He can vote FOR the GI bill and can fulfill his promise to bring those troops home when he is president.

Susan   May 29th, 2008 9:46 am ET

I think Barack Obama should go to Iraq, when he feels it is the correct time. Badgering by John McCain should not be a travel planning guide.

I do wonder though, what real good has come of Mr. McCain's trips to Iraq? Old Mr. Flakjacket himself, can't distinguish between Sunni and Shia, making a big deal out of visiting a market that was basically closed for his visit, grinding everything to a hault so he can get some PR shots. Not much value for my tax dollar.

Barack Obama needs to get to the place where he is only fighting one opponent. Once that happens (next week), then McCain will get a taste of a real presidential election.

usa   May 29th, 2008 9:44 am ET

======hey mr. mcBush,

======success??

===i had no idea that Saddam's head was worth $ 1 Trillion!!!!!!!

billary sent our jobs to china, india, etc.

billary was messing around w/ girls , instead of looking for Bin Laden.

*************no clintons , no mcBush, no more***********

ARTHUR HOLLSTEIN   May 29th, 2008 9:44 am ET

whom do you believe AFTER MR. MCCLELLANDS BOOK?

Ivar   May 29th, 2008 9:42 am ET

Well!!! I admire the fact that at least Obama is open to all options and takes advice. What about Mc Cain who keeps saying that war in Iraq is justified and should be finished….While majority of the country feels otherwise. Obama's response to this accusation also indicates his views about Bi-partisan approach to solving the problems. My hats off to him.

Michael   May 29th, 2008 9:40 am ET

Does anyone really care what John McBush have to say?
Phila, PA

sharon   May 29th, 2008 9:40 am ET

What qualifications must one have to be COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?
- POW ?
- FIRST LADY ?
- 2ND TERM PRESIDENT?

ALL EQUALS TO NOTHING

THE U.S. DEFINATELY NEEDS CHANGE. OBAMA!!!!!!

Stonewall, Florida   May 29th, 2008 9:40 am ET

Senator McCain, You are correct. If and when Senator Obama visits Iraq, he will be successful in seeing how the trillions of dollars have been mismanaged on a civil war that had, and continues to have, your full endorsement.

By your own admission, your knowledge of the economy is bankrupt as evidenced by your burning desire to continue funding this war steeped in steeped ideologies.

McCain is crasy !   May 29th, 2008 9:40 am ET

Did you know that MCcain psychatric record are kept secret !

The guys is traumatized and crasy…he suffers from post traumatic syndrome.

He has this psychologic state that brings him to think irak is vietnam.
He still psychologically suffers from the vietnam war were veterans (wrongly) came back home with that sense of losingness, and shame.

To McCain, withdrawing troops in irak reminds him of vietnam situation, althought it s totally different in irak. US won the war; what we re currently seing is an occupation.

That s why McCain says : We ll never surrender, our troops will come back with honor and victory.

By bringing vietnam to Irak, McCain is just trying to resolve that psychological issu that has made him suffer since his return from IRAK : So called victory, or a sense of vistory in Irak would appease his pain from vietnam., for vietnman and Irak is in the file in his mixed up head.

If you dont beleive me, ask any psycologist…

Vonnie932   May 29th, 2008 9:39 am ET

Americans already know that there is no success in Iraq. Let's ask the Iraq people who lost innocent family members, more than 250,000. Why don't we track the number of killed Iraq people, and the terrible living conditions. How are they making a living for them and thier children?

steve   May 29th, 2008 9:38 am ET

Show me someone that will go bird hunting with Dick Cheney? And if it isn't you Senator McCain, then shut your pie up!
Your the party that tried to elect," Mitt I could shot a wet spit ball Romney." If you need someone to hold your hand in Iraq Senator McCain then ask George Bush.
Senator Obama doesn't need your idiotic opinions.

Andrew Jones   May 29th, 2008 9:37 am ET

Actually, he reminds me of captain Ahab in Moby Dick –you know–the captain who tried obcessively to get revenge on the white whale and ended up losing his life. McAhab.

After further review,Texas   May 29th, 2008 9:37 am ET

Dont be surprised if Bin Laden has been claimed to be killed or captured before the election.The neocons need a false flag to win the election.They cant use him as a boggyman anymore so they may finally pull him out of the rabbits hat.Even a body double wont surprise me.

JayP   May 29th, 2008 9:37 am ET

Mr. McCain, with all due respect, you have continued to hug onto Mr. Bush's failed policies. You are continuing to portray America as a bully rather than a true world leader. What else are you good at besides trumpeting for the war without a cause? You were flat wrong then when you joined Mr. Bush's policy of pre-emptive strike and you are flat wrong now. That said, let Iraqis worry about their own country. Let us face it, our policies are the creator of our friends and enemies around the world - they are not randomly created.

JayP

Foreign observer   May 29th, 2008 9:37 am ET

He seams to be convinced that American Democracy is what all the world will need. He is so much wrong on that…for many foreigners the current America is not a good example for future life.

roger dowdle, lockhart, Tx   May 29th, 2008 9:37 am ET

So McBush says tht a visit to iraq will change Obama's mind about the success? I suppose all of a sudden all the "milestones" will be met? All this from a man who DOES NOT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ALQUEDA AND THE HOMEGROWN INSURGENTS??!!? I notice McBush's plan to end the war will fall on his successor in 2013. That way he can claim it was the next guy's fault the plan didn't work.

Bill NY   May 29th, 2008 9:37 am ET

I cannot believe how sick the Manchurian Candidate is. It is totally insane to comment on progress in what has been a major disaster for Iraq and the good old USA. He represents more tax breaks for the rich, more jobs leaving this country, more tainted products imported into this country and more suffering for the people of this country. He supports the very philosophy that has Iran a major player in the region while making Israel more vulnerable that it has ever been. It breaks my heart that they can always find lots of money for this type bad policy, but cannot help the people in this country. Shame on all of us if this is allowed to continue.

Linda31   May 29th, 2008 9:36 am ET

Last time I checked, Obama was running in a primary election. Just because McCain has finished this up months ago doesn't give him the right to mouth off.

Besides, going to Iraq causes additional stress on the military and does McCain really think that the military men took him to areas that were unsafe? Please.

Jack Jodell, Minneapolis, MN   May 29th, 2008 9:36 am ET

McCain: Stop talking about what a success Iraq has been, and let's end this absolute nonsense babble about our withdrawal from that country being "surrender." We've already had 8 years of one BS artist in the White House and we certainly don't want or need another! Iraq is still not a true functioning democracy and it won't ever be. That's just not the way things are done over there. If you and that sorry milquetoast Lieberman think things are so hunky dory in Iraq, why don't you do us a big favor and both move over there permanently? Your service in Vietnam was heroic and honorable, but your current pandering to the corrupt military industrial complex is disgusting! Give us all a break and SHUT UP! ENOUGH already!

Pat M   May 29th, 2008 9:36 am ET

"More than 4,000 brave young Americans have given their lives,” McCain responded. “To say that my urging a person who wants to be president of the United States to go to Iraq for the first time in 871 days and see the situation for himself and to call that a publicity stunt is a fundamental misunderstanding of the gravity of this issue.”

1) I don't feel it's a publicity stunt. But I do feel that McCain has nothing on his mind except the War in Iraq and Winning what is unwinnable! '
2) After hearing McCain's statement that he will NEVER EVER SURRENDER, NEVER on the Iraq War should be all that is needed to turn any American against voting for this War Monger!
3) If the War in Iraq doesn't do it - his support from Bush the Decider and Divider the Shock and Awe Provider should!
4) Does he think his statement about success on the ground in Iraq after seven years is some kind of progress mark or a stamped seal of approval rating to continue the insanity for another four years?
5) As far as Obama - he didn't vote for the war because he wasn't in a position to have a say BUT he did say before he said he voted for the war he had mixed feelings and didn't know how he would have voted!
Flip Flip?
6) Nobody has to take a trip to Iraq and see the situation first hand to know that 4,000 American soldiers and hundreds of other Nato soldiers have died and thousands more have been maimed for life. However, it appears this is not any kind of bench mark with regards to progress in the war mongering minds of Bush and McCain.
7) And those who believe that Clinton or Obama will bring the troops home also believe in fairy tales. Bush has sunk America and Nato Nations into a deep pit that is going to take another 4-6 years to crawl out of.
8) The truth is is they will require a very strategic, all but impossible plan before soldiers can return home without all H*** breaking loose in the Mid East and volatile revenge erupting all over the world.

Dumb A   May 29th, 2008 9:35 am ET

I'll vote for Mcbush if Hillary is not nominee, why, bcoz I am dumb A hole, racist and like to shoot myself in my leg…;-)

PSK   May 29th, 2008 9:34 am ET

There is something oily and decidely rotten about John McCain. He is not to be trusted, not to be believed. I have no doubt that mentally he's a couple FEET from plumb. I can only imagine the days, months on end he has spent dreaming of being the Emperor of America. We can't see all of the dirt now- but elect this man, and this country is done. Plain & simple. To state PUBLICALLY that we will not leave Iraq until we come home "winners" really spotlights his mentality. Twisted- Viet Nam all over again. By the way- is he planning on broadcasting Obama's travel plans if he does go to Iraq? Sounds like he sure would like to.

Bill   May 29th, 2008 9:34 am ET

Amazing how all the Obama supporters sound like clones.

MacBush for Pres!

Dixon, Des Moines Iowa   May 29th, 2008 9:34 am ET

Maybe McCain can take another walk outside the green zone in the market like he said he did on a visit last year. If I remember right McCain even did this without security around him. It has improved so much he could just walk around Bagdad. Come on McCain, war is war and your visits do nothing but take troops away from their jobs. Do them a favor and stay home and work on ending this tragety.

Chris from San Antonio   May 29th, 2008 9:33 am ET

This is how we differ from republicans. We don't need to investigate a lump of poo before we know we shouldn't step in it.

Necie   May 29th, 2008 9:33 am ET

Since his last trip It might not be a bad idea for Obama to go to Iraq - I can't see the trip changing his mind or his position that we need to end this and bring our children home safely. It will show that Obama is open, leads by example and will look at all aspects of this Iraq blunder to bring it to a peaceful end. Then what leg will McBush have to stand on come Fall.

TJ   May 29th, 2008 9:33 am ET

McCain is nuts! What kind of stalker counts days. And Obama would have time to visit Iraq if Billary wasn't still clawing at her kitchen sink!

Alice Dedentune   May 29th, 2008 9:33 am ET

Looks like Obamamaniacs are not interested to know the truth. They don't want their little small-visioned half-truths to be invaded by the truth.

Carl Wilson   May 29th, 2008 9:32 am ET

c'mon fellow Americans. say what you will about Obama, but the truth is we're on the verge of history. Ask yourself this, do you want another idiot like Bush in office for another 4 years, Mcshame please sit down shut up and let's start healing America The Jim Crow era of politics is over

Andrew Jones   May 29th, 2008 9:32 am ET

And by the way. . .
Who would want the likes of McCain as president? Do we want to constantly see an aging, war-tortured, crippled president who has been gnawed on by cancer after cancer? Is that going to be an inspiring leader and symbol of all that America can be? A man obcessed with making war, now that America can hardly afford to pay for the last wars? With all respect for the man — though I disagree with his politics– does anyone think he stands a chance of winning?

Tim   May 29th, 2008 9:31 am ET

Walking around in secured off sections of the city with armed escort and body armor doesn't sound like success to me, especially after 5 years. It doesn't take a trip to Iraq for anyone to see what a mess it is.

Alonzo Demetrius   May 29th, 2008 9:31 am ET

BO rails against the war effort not knowing what the truth is. He says he will immediately withdraw the troops, without knowing what the truth is. BO is not interested in the truth that might spoil his idiot speeches like as if he has foreign policy knowledge…..

The Eye   May 29th, 2008 9:31 am ET

Going to Iraq just to go and see "progress" is rather insulting to the Iraq families that have lost in some cases an entire generation. Obama should go to Iraq for different reasons rather than to go and see "progress". He should go because he is the hopeful Presidential candidate who will have Iraq to deal with later when he takes over the presidency. The fact that there is a "calm" does not in any way make Iraq a "success story". The facts remain plain. Mcaine has the blood of fallen American soldiers, innocent Iraq nationals and millions of displaced Iraq families scattered around the world. The war was wrong and it will not in anyway be justifiable at any time considering what we now know actually happened! (Press secretaries are really good when they are in your pay pocket!) Obama going to Iraq will in fact give legitimacy to the botched war! Obama should go on his on time and terms not at the bidding of an old man trying to justfy his unwise past!

Foreign observer   May 29th, 2008 9:30 am ET

A guy from the cold war who doesn´t understand that the challenges of today are much bigger ones. History will watch Irak as a faillure of the US like Afghanistan was a faillure of the Sowiet Union. To stay in Irak means to surrender every day…. !

KMAN   May 29th, 2008 9:29 am ET

Mcthuselah … MY FREIND … YOU are not credible! WRONG on Vietnam, WRONG on Iraq, and NOW WRONG on tax cuts for the wealthly … AND MORE TO THE POINT … WRONG FOR AMERICA IN THE 21st CENTURY!! How much of the newly found youth vote do you anticipate getting?

Eleanor   May 29th, 2008 9:29 am ET

your living in a dream world MCSame!!!
Americans are tired of the same old drawl from you every day
about how wonderful this Illegal immoral war is!!!!!
Altho I must say this drawl is the gift that keeps on giving to Senator Obama condsidering the state of the economy and the billions every
month being spent on this war not to mention the *9 billion missing over there no one can account for* and the millions of tax payers dollars being bribed out to keep the different factions from killing each other!!!! YES the this war is going real well!! LOL
I think you get more MCsenile every day
Why not spend this money protecting Americas borders and ports
Screen people better coming into the country
Your back in the vietnam days buddy!!!
Obama is a free individual….he can go where he pleases, when he pleases. and thank God he is someone who will end this FIASCO!!!!

Mike in Columbus   May 29th, 2008 9:28 am ET

to: Ron

Bravo! …and thank you for serving!

Chuck, Democrats United We Stand   May 29th, 2008 9:28 am ET

Actually, I see no reason for Obama to go to Iraq. First off this is a political move by McCain in that he is dictating the tone of the debate, in going Obama would be playing into his hand; thus negating Obama's platform. Going will not change anything, it will not erase the fact that this war was waged in bad faith and underfalse pretenses.

Major Michael in Lorton, Virginia   May 29th, 2008 9:28 am ET

McCain's comment on urging Obama to visit Iraq is just another political pandering to justify his decision and position on the war. McCain believes that Obama should experience, first hand, the "flavor of freedom" and measures the success of the war by the "yardstick of death." If Obama goes to Iraq, it should be to visit and support our troops…..because it will be upon his shoulders to return these brave young men and women home. McCain will be performing a lot of tip-toeing in the months to come as a result of McClellan's book and Bush's popularity….might even qualify as a candidate for "dancing with the stars."

Venus   May 29th, 2008 9:28 am ET

Here's G.I.Joe and the war monger who got us in Iraq and can't figure out how to get our troops out!

I love how Obama took the bite out of McSame by saying he will visit Iraq! By Obama not going - shows his true heart - we should not be Iraq -

Go Obama!

Gwen NC   May 29th, 2008 9:27 am ET

Shows how easily Obama can be pushed around to prove himself, he should go if he's going to criticize, but he should have gone without having to be called out on it. AGAIN, poor judgement and LATE judgement. I swear on my life if he is president we will pay for his consistency in late judgement. It's been the flaw I said he had all along, he nor Bush seem to prove me wrong.
Hillary first, McCain if I must because I'm a member of the American party first.

Charlotte   May 29th, 2008 9:26 am ET

Obama is a coward, he will not go into a war zone. He won't even hold a meeting on the Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. He has been chairman of that committee for over 15 months. What has he done for Chicago? What has he done as a Senator except run for President? What did he accomplish as a State Senator, other then securing deals for his contributors? Wonder if Michelle is finally proud of his accomplishments? Obama is too liberal for the majority of Americans. He has lied about many things. Politicians are all liars. You just have to decided which lies you find least offensive. I can not get past Rev. Wright and that church, I can not get past the dirty dealings in his run for the Senate. In his book he says he knows what side of himself to show the white people. I have a gut feeling he is not being truthful and is in disguise. He is not what he appears to be

Ron L   May 29th, 2008 9:26 am ET

OKAY lets get one thing REALLY CLEAR..and that would be the definiton of SUCCESS!!

In this case I would say success should mean a functioning government, the end of road side bombs, NO MORE AMERICANS or IRAQS dieing, and the ability for Sen. McCain to walk outside the green zone with less than 20 soldiers around him.

THIS IS NOT THE CASE…It is not a success UNLESS you LOWER the bar a HUGE amount!!

Senator McCain is stuck on stuck..he doesn't get it, we need to let the Iraqs work this out among themselves. After all it REALLY is THEIR country. This has nothing to do with losing, It has to do with allowing a nation to get it's own house in order.

Republicans Out Right Now!   May 29th, 2008 9:26 am ET

OMG! McCain only talks about this war! He is obsessed with it. It is scary, he sounds just like Bush. We can't take it anymore!

Alexis   May 29th, 2008 9:26 am ET

I find it a little funny, that Bush's term will be up, and ALL OF A SUDDEN GAS PRICES GO UP!!!! And now everyone wants to come out about your dirty little secrets to the white house. MCCAIN YOU ARE THE SAME!!!!

Andrew Jones   May 29th, 2008 9:25 am ET

How ridiculous can you get? It's amazing and to Obama's credit that he has ever been to Iraq. I do not think that he should be offering to go back soon.

McCain is not going to get anywhere by boasting about security for the U.S. Americans are feeling the financial pain as well as the humiliation of funding a war that was an act of unjustified agression.

Cathy in MD   May 29th, 2008 9:25 am ET

“More than 4,000 brave young Americans have given their lives” … “To say that my urging a person who wants to be president of the United States to go to Iraq for the first time in 871 days and see the situation for himself and to call that a publicity stunt is a fundamental misunderstanding of the gravity of this issue.” This, my friends, is without question a calculated, condescending, back-handed PUBLICITY STUNT. And if John Mccain thinks we don’t see that, he’s got a fundamental misunderstanding of our need for change and our determination to get away from his kind of Washington politics. He doesn’t seem capable of running an honest, dignified campaign. I don’t believe he’d have any more success running the country. Obama '08.

Susan   May 29th, 2008 9:24 am ET

The only reason Obama is going is to get it 'shut up'.

NickNas   May 29th, 2008 9:24 am ET

Now look at this pitiful lilttle puppet man. He has been fed so much BS and spouts it out as Fact he think he can tell Obama what he will think when he goes to Iraq and expects him to follow his script.

Sorry McBush, We are choosing an INDEPENDANT Mind to lead our party not a pre-programmed gobot like you or Hillaty thank you.

WH   May 29th, 2008 9:24 am ET

It's gonna be all over but the crying when the Obama supporters wake up and realize Iraq and Afganistan will be around for a LONG time with or without him.

MCCAINTHEOLDMAN   May 29th, 2008 9:23 am ET

This old man is obssesed with Iraq. He have been hanging with Bush a lot or he is seeing falshback from the vietnam war.

Farrell, Houston, Tx   May 29th, 2008 9:23 am ET

McCain measures the success in Iraq based on comparisons of how many U.S. soldiers lives have not been lost. One U.S. soldiers life