Florida and Michigan was an issue before the primaries and still is an issue: If anything, what is the rule on those who violate the rule of law? In the event that Democratic rules stipulated that there was not to be primary in those states as aerly as they were held, obviously they violated the stipulated governing law of Democratic party and any body who participated knowingly they wre going against the laid down rules must face the music including the presidential candidates involved who should know better. The candidates must have known better not to have their names on the ballot. No excuse! If leniency is to be applied to sit the delegates, whoever violated these rules by leaving their names on ballot…the ratio should be for violators 1/3 to 2/3 votes for non violators.

Clinton should be ashamed of herself for trying to betray the party's rule which she initially had agreed to. shows she capable of any dispicable behavior and should not be trusted with the us presidency. she lacks integrity, and a desperate power drunk. Bill should also be ashame being a former president and a world leader to be playing these dirty politics along with hillary.

pls, all superdelages should take a position now and knock out this despot of a hillary. otherwise be ready to welcome John to the white house.

Mike.

I don't understand it. When I give my children rules, if they break them, they get punished. No Ifs, Ands or Buts. The way I see it, rules were described by the DNC that were applicable to all states regarding when they are able to hold their respective primaries. Not all states followed the rules, so, MI and FL were punished, per the DNC rules, for not following instructions. The Democratic candidates were instructed not to campaign there and it was determined that those states' delegates would bear the consequence of the state's actions; they are not being seated at the Democratic National Convention. Plain and simple, my children can understand that. Clinton and Obama understood the rules at the time, not campaining in those states, Obama even removing his name from the ballot in MI. Seemed like both candidates agreed that the state's punishment was reasonable since they broke the rules. Fast forward to today. There is a meeting of the DNC to try and come to a resolution to the issue of seating the delegates from FL and MI. Forgive me if I am stating the obvious, but it is just that that confounds me. Now Clinton is crying foul? What, what what! Now there is a problem with the seating of the delegates? I agree, the voters of those states need to be represented. It was not by their design that their delegates are not being seated. I don't see this as punishing the voters, I see this as punishing the institution that BROKE THE RULES. HOW HARD IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND! YES, the DNC needs to determine how best to represent the voters in MI and FL. YES the voters deserve to have their voices heard. But what twisted, backwards thinking country are we living in if we can't agree and acknowledge that the problem was first caused by FL and MI not following the rules? I can't wait for Obama to be elected as our Commander in Chief. He represents everything that I have understood America to be. My father was an immigrant from the Philippines, came to Guam after the war for opportunity. He worked hard for everything he needed. He met my mother and raised 5 kids on a single income. He also managed to make enough money to help the family back in the Philippines. He is living his American dream in Guam. Sometimes I feel that statesiders don't understand that. I feel that a lot of what we in the states have is taken for granted. It seems like everyone is looking for the easy way. It is not ridiculous to dream big. These petty squabbles and potshots we Americans are taking at each other are helping to distract from the issues that should really matter. Sometimes I think we Americans have forgotten what those issues should be. Peace!

Obama leads Clinton by 202 delegates. He needs 41 more to clinch the nomination.

what else is there to know.

It's clear the people have spoken. Obama is the choice.

Fl and Mich broke the rules. AND Hillary signed the agreement not to seat these votes.

its just because she is losing.

Obama'08

I LOVE how the Clinton Cultists want ALL of the votes in MI and FL counted … ALL the delegates seated … when Obama wasn't even on the ballot! Hmmm … millions of votes to ZERO?!? Don't think so Clinton Cultists! It's not going to happen. Even MENTIONING that fiasco of an idea just shows how low you people will stoop to SLEAZE your way into the White House! You Clinton Cultists are just as bad as Rove!

Highly doubt that the DNC can make a decision and stick to it; if that were the case, this discussion wouldn't be happening. If this is any indication of how dems plan on running the country; this raises serious concerns. It will help the GOP.

How can the Democrat Representatives in the State of Florida ever be respected when way back in 2007 they could have solved this avoidable problem…..Shame on Floridas Reps. Sorry for the voters, HRC and Obama.

So Howard Dean is mad at the media. So what? I'm mad at Howard Dean–and I'm not even part of the media. TODAY is when the Rules Committee makes decisions; it was not supposed to be decided last night in some backroom deal. Those of us who want to vote for change in November are constantly reminded by Democrats that when we run Congress we don't get anything done, we can't even run our party (if we did we'd say the rules don't change and MI and FL don't get one delegate because they broke the rules), and we cut deals behind closed doors. I am about one day away from going Green Party this year.

If Hillary somehow manages to pull off getting the DNC to bend to her will, I will lose all faith in the political process. After George W's 2000 coup in Florida, they should be rising above, not showing that the Democrats are no better than the Republicans. Unfortunately, Hillary has shown herself to be just like the man she is trying to replace… same character, differant stripe. She has her own Carl Rove.

these bozos are fake democrats dispatched by karl rove and his neocon masters, to manipulate the election process.

Obama did not follow all the rules. The rules did not require him to take his name off the ballot and he did run ads and post signs in Florida. -Count ALL the votes do not apportion any votes to Obama that were not specifically cas t for him. You cannot make a judgement about who voters would have voted for if the circumstances were different.

The DNC should never havbe made these rules they were only trying to "fix" the race for Obama. It back fired. WRITE IN HILLARY!

Why on earth should hillary be rewarded for NOT going by the rules?!
Once again she cheated and now wants to somehow win based on the bogus numbers she "thinks" she has. Obama followed the rules, took his name off the ballot in Michigan as required, she did NOT, he did NOT campaign in Florida, she did! If anything, she should be punished! She has turned into, or maybe always has been, the most egotistical, dishonest, self entitled, nasty, whining witch and IF they allow her to somehow steal the nomination from Obama I think the Democratic party will lose thousands of members and there would be a revolt in this country. The longer this goes on the more hillary and her crazy supporters divide the party and the country! BE GONE HILLARY!

Obama played by the rules. We teach children rules are rules not made to be broken. Clinton needs to live with the decision.

She and Her husband can no longer expect to have their way. They have not always played by the rules and got away with it. This must end now.

Go Obama!!! Our country needs change. Now is the beginning.

During the debate, didn't Senator Jordon, parents also tell her she is always to follow the rules?

STick to the Rules the RULEs are the Rules!!! Clinton agreed and so did ALL for supporters in that room!!!

Now she cried fowl and is trying to use this to look like the defender of democracy. IF you were ahead, Clinton, you wont even remember that Florida and MI existed. Shame on you and your supporters in that room saying it should be counted as is and ZERO to Obama. You shameless lot!

Next time, fight at the begining when they wanted you to sign and agree. Stop wasting the nations' time. You old bag

What's interesing is that the Democrats do their dirty work behind closed doors, and then have a dog-and-pony show where they can feed the results to their rank and file party members.

I don't think they should be allowed to be seated at all. They were penalized for holding early ballots. It is not fair because Barack Obama kept his name off Michigan ballots . He did everything he was suppose to do, and now we have Hillary Clinton whining like a ousted child, because she wants the votes it is the only way she thinks she will come out ahead.

Leave it be. It is not fair.

Voter supression and the supression of voter choice were consequences of the DNC rules committee decision that the primaries of Florida and Michigan would not count. So the results of these primaries were not fair and representative of the people of either state. The delegates should NOT be seated based on the 'tainted' results of the primaries. This is not fair to any of the voters in our country.
You cannot 'count every vote' when you cannot account for votes that were supressed.
The democratic leaders in Florida sold out their primary for the sake of getting a paper trail for future elections. That was wrong. That was a violation of the rules and it was a trade that they should be held accountable for. The paper trail was important but it should have been fought for… I am angry that the democratic leaders do not own any responsibility for what happened with Florida.
No delegates should be seated based on the tainted primaries.
The rules committee should stand by its initial ruling. It had too many consequences to be undone.
Find a way to seat the delegates for the sake of party unity that IS NOT BASED ON TAINTED AND UNREPRESENTATIVE PRIMARIES.

One thing is BLAREINGLY Clear about this whole thing.

The only reason why these people are doing this is to help Hillary. ALL they want is Hillarys votes to count. NONE of Obamas and NO arguments at all about Obama Voters who did not get to vote for him. This is ALL A Hillary Clinton exercise 100%

so much hue and cry now from Clintons followers but where were they also all these months after Hilary signed to say the votes WOULD NOT count when Hilary never cared if the votes were counted. Its only once she started losing and crying and having a childish tantrum wanting them that her followers decided they also were suddenly robbed of their votes. People if you cared so much where were you months ago when the agreement was signed???? Obviously off like Hilary having selective amnesia.

Speaking of the media. They do nothing to dispel the myth that somehow Senator Clinton did not follow the rules regarding the Primaries in Michigan and Florida. The rules were no campaigning. Period. Obama fans claim constantly that she has somehow done something wrong by keeping her name on the ballot in Michigan. That was not against the rules! She along with a few others did nothing. Obama, Edwards and whoever else specifically had to remove their names. She was smart, give her credit. In Florida, all were on the ballot. Why didn't they remove their names from that ballot? Obama had ads running, that was against the rules but you never hear people say anything about that. Clinton held a speech AFTER the polls closed. People who were going to vote did, note the numbers. Those didn't and probably weren't going to.

Obama 's people claim that people had to get to know him. Believe me Clinton has had no big advantage in name recognition over Obama in Michigan, Florida or anywhere else. She continues to struggle to separate herself from being Bill Clinton's wife rather than Senator Clinton running for President on her own right. Something most Obama fan don't give her credit for.

Florida s/b cut to 50% and let Clinton have her delagates… Obama gets his and Edwards. The uncommitted votes in Michigan go to Obama and 50% are seated [or each = 1/2 vote]. Throw in all of the Superdelagates and their mommas and Clinton's still in Obama's rear view mirror. Let's get on with the Party. Nice try Hill.

Would someone please tell me HOW Clinton's supporters can justify a demand to seat all delegates in Michigan and Florida when they know that Obama followed the rules and the voting was skewed? What is wrong with these people? What is wrong with Hillary? Either you agree to follow DNC rules or you donot. Don't these people see the unfairness in this? Is this how ethical we can expect a Clinton to be? It does not matter how you win but just win no matter what! The DNC should be rewarding Obama and his people for following the rules and not backing down at the last minute. This is the exact way we misdiscipline children. We say one thing, lay out the consequences and then back down when the howling gets too loud.
What wusses the DNC has become!

once again, the media FAILS to recognize the fact that hillary herself is just as much to blame for the disqualification of florida and michigan's delegates! this is due to the fact that she signed an agreement stating that they would not be counted if the states broke dnc rules. so everyone in these states who views hillary as his/her savior needs to understand that she's doing it simply to win. period.

This is all going to end in very bad taste and the whole process is going to make the USA look even worse than ever.

The DNC will pander to HRC as most of those "high up" in the DNC did not expect or want Obama to be the nominee. At the time, no one was worried 'cos HRC was ahead. Now those in power in the DNC see the FL and MI case(s) as one last chance to help HRC over the top, which is what was "planned" and "expected" all along - her being the nominee that is.

Somehow, HRC is going to be "given" the nomination in spite of being beaten and it'll all be made to look "right" and "legal" following a new interpretation of the "rules".

Obama is the USA's best hope to move forward and from the brink of falling into a very dark period but he'll be ousted by the more "powerful" and the world will look on and groan and laugh (maybe) and loose even more respect for a once all-powerful nation.

Oh how the mighty fall. Not just Clinton, McCain, Obama but the USA as a whole.

Sad, but the whole world still looks on with a little hope and faith.

I don't think they should be allowed to be seated at all. They were penalized for holding early ballots. It is not fair because Barack Obama kept his name off Michigan ballots . He did everything he was suppose to do, and now we have Hillary Clinton whining like a ousted child, because she wants the votes it is the only way she thinks she will com out ahead.

Leave it be. It is not fair.

The votes in Florida were just as fair as a Caucas , so give them as they are. obama campaigned in Florida by putting adds on TV so he acutally broke the rules anyway.VOTE HILLARY THE BETTER CHOICE!!!

I am a Florida resident who takes voting VERY seriously .I had nothing to do with the decision to advance the date of the primary so why should I be penalized for the stupidity of others?

If those idiots, and I am an avid Democrat and supporter of the DNC. But if those idiots take away even 50% if the delegates, I will not support the DNC in November.

Clinton shouild step down for Obama, She is only trying to destroy her party.

Hillary Clinton just "can't" believe that she is not going to be president. I mean, after all, SHE is Bill Clinton's wife. She thinks we should just give it to her on that basis alone. And, to be beat by an African-American, well . . . . she doesn't mind patronizing minorities, but to elect an African-American to the highest office in the land when we have the opportunity to get screwed by yet another Clinton? She is a racist, who would pay Uncle Tom very well, and even refer to him "affectionately," but would always keep him subservient to "Miss Hillary."

You gave Obama's case a one-sentence paragraph; you also said the two rogue states "were penalized," past tense, as though they've already suffered some sort of penalty for flaunting rules they'd agreed to follow. Your bias is clear; I hope you're not too saddened when Obama comes out of this as the nominee.

I suggest that everyone in the DNC meeting take a few minutes and be very still as they seek inner guidance for settling the Florida, Michigan matter. Seek for what is best for all concerned and then follow through in a harmonious manner. There is a right solution for this and if they will do the right thing, it will be revealed to them. Most of all, they should put aside petty differences and seek for harmony and that which is right and good.

In a boxing fight in which one fighter is so pumelled, with swollen blood-dripping eyes, always staggering from the floor, but refuses to give up the fight, the referee has the right to step in and stop the fight or disaster will happen.

It's understandable that the Clintons - because of their name recognition may consider it an affront to be easily defeated by a relatively newcomer to the political scene. For this reason, they will want to show that they are "tough" but it gets to a time when preserving an enduring legacy overrides all other considerations.

They will be highly respected if it's perceived that their actions did not destroy the party but actually solidified it. This can be achieved if they gracefully exit this protracted campaign when it has become obvious that the possibility of their capturing the nomination is elusive.

Who will not call them heroes when they channel all their resources to support the obvious nominee (Obama) who is well-positioned to capture the White House?

By listening to their so-called "supporters" who want to fight forever, they are feasting with the devil who wants to steal their legacy away.

Clintons, listen to your supporters who are saying: you've fought a good fight - well done. These have good intentions toward you.

Anything other than a 50/50 split in Michigan is completely unfair. Why bother with a democracy if you can't follow rules???

It wouldn't be fair to switch the rules now which would penalize Obama, who abided by the rules in Michigan and Florida in their primaries.

"Democrats' late night session falls short….."

Not surprising……maybe a few of those little blue pills would help.

Only Hillary could win this way and walk away with a smug smile on her face. If she is not the most immoral, polarizing, egocentric and selfish politicain I have ever seen in my 55 years, (Bar none) I don't know who is. She makes Nixon look good.

If anyone thinks she would go on to win the general election and govern effectively you are gender crazy.

Watch how quickly she drops the loyalty to all the women who are working so hard for her. She'll take from you and walk away with a smile as she would do to the Democratic party.

oh sad america!you are still a country full of racism as back at 19th.so many whites wanted to prevent a black man to win the nomination or at least diminish his chances in general elction.

I guess queens don't have to follow the rules, even if they agreed to the rules . And since hillary sees herself as a Queen, rules don't apply to her…. only to others who aren't as royal or elite as she is .

Try a novel approach and follow the rules you made rather than craft some "halfsies" do-over– no delegates seated, no votes counted, millions of Americans hosed over by the "progressives".

I'm certainly not an Obama supporter, in fact I'm not even a Democrat (I'm not a Republican either), but from the sidelines the arguments by Hillary Clinton's campaign certainly seem ridiculous. Many posters on CNN seem to be saying that if the vote that took place in violation of the rules is not counted that they will vote completely against their interests in November. I really can't imagine a more ridiculous course of action.

I also can't wrap my head around the illogic of the DNC signing up to a set of rules, all of the candidates agreeing to them, and then simply saying after the vote has been held without all of the candidates being given time to campaign there (or even have their name on the ballot) that the vote will count as it stands. Any Clinton supporter who urges that course of action is making nothing but an emotional argument.

I am watching Florida Senator Bill Nelson's argument to seat the delegates from Florida. He makes me sick. I plan on voting against him and his biased behavior. Clinton supporters are as disillusioned as Hillary and Bill are. You folks lost, deal with it!

Hillary's Rovian attempt to steal the election.

Clinton / Lewinsky '12

Unfortunately there is no good solution. If they seat the delegates as voted they will be in essence setting a precident for future states to break the rules unpunished. This is not an option. The votes as they were cast are not true anyway because the candidates were not allowed to campaign. This was a huge disadvantage for the relatively unknown Obama. My big problem with this situation is that it would not be a problem if Hillary Clinton did not beat the drums and get everyone worked up about it simply because she needed the popular votes so she can make some ridiculous argument that it somehow matters. It does not matter if she wins the popular vote by a landslide because the rules go by delegates. If the system is bad then it needs to be changed for next time. Both candidates new the rules before they started and they both need to live by them. I think we all know perfectly well how much drum beating Hillary would be doing for Fla and Mich if Obama had won them instead of her. ABSOLUTELY NONE!!! She only cares now becasue she needs you or she would not have signed the agreement that the votes would not count and not to campaign. She did not know she would need to USE YOU! Wake up people and choose the honest candidate who has followed the rules and acted like a President. Thank you for reading. Obama08

Don't count the votes at all! Rules are rules and many times are not popular but there are no excuses for changing the rules to pacify anyone!
Both Fl and MI knew what the rules were and decided to ignore them. Well…TS folks You disenfranchised yourselves! Like it or not!

GOD its over OBAMA won,Im sick and tired of this. they want change these rules until this lady called billary win. Look, if obama is not gonna be the nominne i smell huge,wild bad bad riots inDenver this coming August.

Isn't this all about INTEGRITY????

The "rules" were broken - blatantly. No two ways to put it. They, Florida and Michigan, were even pre-warned specifically what would happen if they so chose to ignore the posted rules that the party lives by. RULES ARE WHAT OUR SOCIETY MAINTAINS ORDER WITH, also called "laws," but in this case not criminal laws. Rules of civil order, that seperate our society from "anarchy."

For once, Howard Dean has the moral "high ground" on this matter. If you can't enforce your party's own rules,,,,, then the party has no "honor" or integrity.

Both candidates, were informed of the party's actions, and were asked to sign a pledge to honor the party's enforcement of it's own rules. BOTH CANDIDATES "SIGNED" THE PLEDGE. Now if the candiates had any sembelence of "honor," they would maintain that pledge to the bitter-end. Regardless of their own standing in the primary voting. This is the point of INTEGRITY.

Now one of the candidates finds that she has an advantage over their opponant, and they don't take their name off of the Michigan ballot,,,,, there by leaving a named candidate on the ballot, just in case someone actually votes in Michigan, even that they, the voters, know the votes will not count……….WILL NOT COUNT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. Yet they vote, and now the candidate who "broke" their pledge, want to tout that they have "WON"

Hello Neighbours, just to let you know you look like fools to the rest of the World! Only in the USA can a nominee attempt to change the rules because she is losing. Michigan and Florida knew the consequences for having their primaries early and did it anyways.
And as I remember, Clinton agreed the delegates wouldn't be seated when she was winning. Do you think that her sudden concern has anything to do with those much needed delegates???
What a Gong Show you have let this turn into!!!

why doesnt the democratic party tell it like it is when those 2 states moved up their primary they broke the rules and both candidates agreed to that Hillary thought it was a great idea when she was winning but after she blew the campaign not such a good idea now the primary in both those states doesnt mean much because hoe about the folks who didnt vote because they were told it wouldnt count my finakl thought is its time for the so called super delegates to put hillary out of her misery end this now or maybe the dems are going to blow the best chance they will ever have to win the white house

I've said it before and I will say it again. Hillary is acting selfish and is very inconsiderate of the parties and the rules. Now Obama will be chastised by Florida and Michigan voters for not agreeing to seat all the delegates and giving Hillary undeserved and essentially unopposed voted-in delegates in these 2 states. That will undoubtedly hurt the Democrats in the general election in these 2 swing states. I cannot believe Democrats are turning a blind eye to these facts. Thanks Hillary for electing McCain for the people.

Sure they have to fall short, or else they'll appear to be trying to pry this nomination away from Big O' and you and I know, it just aint happening!!!

Leave it Hill, it's ova!

They all agreed before the primaries started as to what they would do and now Hillary wants to change the rules. It's wrong and everyone knows it but her and her supporters.

I fail to see the National Parties fault in this if they are enforcing the rules so plainly broken by the states. Voters in Michigan and Florida need to really get organized to get rid of the people in the respective states who made this choice fully knowing what the outcome would be.
I am sorry you were wronged but, it was at your local level.
This should however be a sign that our system is broken in the primaries. We elect a President with a one day national vote, why not elect candidates the same way?

Can someone really tell the truth about all this? Why is there a need for this meeting to be even taking place if the rules were established years ago and all agreed to them? If HRC was in the lead this would not be happening. This shows you that it is not what you know but who you know and HRC obviously has a lot of folks who owe her.

OBAMA 8-13

HRC AGREED to the rules that stripped MI and FL of their delegation. The ultimate Flip-flopper does not deserve to represent our party in November. Give her a bone (seating 1/2 vote delegations from the two rule-breaking states) and let's move on. Supsers should endorse who plays by the rules!!!!

Who appointed Clinton's lawyer dictator ? This is the United states of America. The Clinton campaign has gone way overboard in this process. Why have an election ? People are fighting the war Hillary voted for. They deserve a candidate who tells them the truth. They do not need a dictator telling the country that Obama doesn't get any votes from a rigged election.

"turned out in droves" stated by Bill Nelson in the meeting this morning.
He must live in an alternate universe!

More lies - From what I've read a lot of voters didn't bother because they knew it wouldn't count. The DNC obviously is run by a bunch of idiots and liars.

I am so glad I'm an independent voter.

I just can't believe that any of this is being tolerated at any level by the DNC. What about the thousands of people in Florida and Michigan who didnt even bother to vote because we THOUGHT it wasnt going to count. Why was the primary even held in the first place in these states? The DNC must have know it was going to end up in a battle.

The only reason I voted in FL was because there were other issues on the table (like the homestead tax increase). Otherwise I would not have gone out that day. I suspect that the Rep Gov knew this would happen and is having a great time with this.

The fact the Hillary Clinton is pushing this and encouraging her supporters on this is only feeding a fire that should have been put out long ago. Shame Shame on her and the people holding signs to ask to count every vote. Its like saying we dont care about the rules we just want to win. What kind of message does that send to our children. They are pawns in her aweful game.

If her supporters dont vote for Obama and we lose this election it will be her fault and a NO WIN situation as we wont get anything done in WA for 4 more years.
I am just so disgusted with this entire process.

Hillary should conceed then all the delegates would be seated. It is Hillary that is causing the problem because she won't accept that she has lost! She is just taking advantage of Florida and Michigan and if they did have a new contest in those states the best she could get is a split.

The Demcratic party is becoming the joke of 2008! Thanks to Mr. Dean and Ms. Clinton

There's only one way to keep this fair. The original penalty should stand . They don't count!

I thought Hillary agreed initially that delicates from Michigan and Florida should not be counted, and now since she is loosing; she suddenly gets more concerned about the value of vote and people of those two states. I start loosing respect for her how she is getting desperate for power. Guys stick with the rules which are set prior to the start of the game.

Go home losers. Obama o8

I don't see what's so hard to understand about this. One of the candidates did not have his name on the freaking ballot in Michigan. Where exactly is the fairness in seating Michigan as is when the candidate was even on the ballot? I can see going ahead and seating Florida. It, too, would be a slightly unfair seating but there is a case for seating it. But to claim it's democratic and fair to seat Michigan as is would be worse than not seating Michigan. That would be a plain in view example of trying to steal an election from the winner at the end. I can't believe folks are that desperate. So many of you blame Obama supporters for following him blindly. What do you call shifting your views of fair play according to the word of your candidate? This is sad. Truly sad.

Why follow the rules? Rules don't apply, MI and FL broke them but we've got to Count All the Votes! You've got to Cheat to Win! Why not? George Bush does it, why shouldn't the Democrats/Hillary? Another fine example for children, Cheat to Win, that's how you do it kids!

Thank you Hillary for supporting a circus-like atmosphere. It really shows your maturity. Ex-Edwards supporter for Obama now.

THE DNC SHOULD DISREGARD THOSE PROTESTERS . . . IT'S JUST ANOTHER PLOY BY HILLIARY CLINTON TO MANIPULATE A LOSING CAMPAIGN! THIS IS JUST THE PRIMARY, THEY CAN STILL VOTE FOR WHOMEVER THEY WANT IN NOVEMBER! THEY BROKE THE RULES, THEY SHOULD BE REPRIMANDED. i REALIZE IT WASN'T THE VOTERS FAULT BUT THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT WAS NOT A FAIR CONTEST BECAUSE THE OTHER CANDIDATES WERE NOT ON THE BALLOTS! HOW DO YOU THINK THE VOTERS IN THOSE STATES THAT WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR BARACK OR SOME OTHER CANDIDATE FEEL ABOUT HILLIARY TRYING TO SAY SHE SHOULD GET ALL THE DELEGATES?! MICHIGAN SHOULD BE ALLOCATED 50/50 BECAUSE BARACK WASN'T EVEN ON THE BALLOT. FLORIDA SHOULD BE DIVIDED BY THE PERCENTAGE EACH CANDIDATE GOT. . . AND BARACK WILL STILL BE AHEAD AND WILL STILL BECOME THE NOMINEE!!!!

The DNC Rules committee are the ones who put these laws in place. Now they are going to break them so that they can get there way and make more money. If they were to follow the laws that THEY put in place for a reason, there would be no issue. Rules and laws are in place to make things cut and dry. When Clinton questions these rules and wants to change them just so she can win the election and we listen and actually consider doing that, that is when this country falls apart and loses it's fundamentals. But I guess that's how the democratic party works…never caring about why there are certain laws in place or what the American people actually believe in. It's just in there nature to do whatever it takes for them to get more money in there pocket. What kind of example is it when you put a rule or law in place and then change it to accomodate your own needs?

I guess it's the Democratic example.

the only way for MS. CLINTON to get the popular vote is to not count any OBAMA supporters in MICHIGAN ,,not my vote in any of the caucus states ,,that the popular vote showed the same results as the caucus,,count my vote with your very biased opinions…by the way im a white ,,54 year OBAMA women supporter also a delagate from my state

First order of business should be to fire H Dean.

"I think that people will have to ask themselves those questions, who would be the best president in terms of preparation and readiness and effectiveness, and who would be the stronger candidate. And I imagine that process will begin after the end of the last primaries," Clinton said………………………Clinton keep repeating this as if we the voters have not chosen the STRONGER candidate, HIS name is OBAMA!

Do anyone know what type of position has been offered to Geraldine Ferraro by the Clinton camp, it has to be an position of a life time because there is no way such a person would make themselves look like she has these last few months.

Thank God, Clinton is not our president, we would be in trouble, just think what trouble our Country would be in today, if she had agreed on a decided with another Country, and found it will not work in her favor as she thought, then changed her mind, we would have been a joke to the rest of the Country.

The solution to this problem is not easy. Our society or any society for that matter, must have rules in order to exist. When rules are violated there has to be repercussions. They can't allow some maverick groups to ignore ACCEPTED and agreed upon rules and destroy an orderly process..
If a player on a basketball team has been declared ineligible before the season began, the coach can not suddenly put that player in the game in the 4th quarter of the final game. It's ludicrous. For the Clinton campaign to try that tactic at this stage is just as ludicrous but it also gives us a bird's eye view into the character of the candidate. This tactic will lose more supporters for her campaign than gain them.

Obama's campaign disagrees, saying that this is not reasonable because he followed the rules, took his name off of the Michigan ballot, and did not campaign in either state.

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LMAO we all know that Obama likes to create the rules…don't forget how he maniplated his race in Chicago!!!

Obama will never be elected in the General Election!!!

Goodbye Obama and Hello President McCain!!

Run Independent Hillary!!!

I was way more interested in this a few months ago. The process is just dragging on way too long to suit me. Make a decision that's fair to both parties and move on already.

It was obvious to everyone with any sense who the noninee would be for the democrats months ago. Lets wrap this up so the party can move on to bigger and better things, mainly winning in november.

What a dilemma! On one side you have the DNC, who constructed rules and regulations, agreed by all states, which was followed by 48 of the 50 states. Then, on the other side, you have disgruntled citizens who feel disadvantaged if their votes do not count, yet they blame the DNC for upholding a rule that was broken by their state.

I would support penalizing Florida and Michigan because they are the only 2 states that did not follow the guidelines. What is the point of having rules if nothing happens if they are broken? How fair is that to the people and states who respect the rule? The problem with this is swarms of people will blame the DNC for neglecting their votes, pro-Obama, anti-woman, etc…when they really should be directing that frustration to their state's representatives for pushing the primary date forward.

If Florida and Michigan do not get punished, how fair is it to the Obama campaign, who followed the rules and even took off his name off the ballot in Michigan? It would be like saying "Thanks for following our rules, but even though 2 of the 50 states did not listen, but we won't penalize them."

come on you guys get this show on the road so that we (all true supporters of the democratic party) can rally around our nominee and get ready for McCain.

I think it's unfair to allow Hillary to decide for you which way you're going to vote on this thing. She did not play by the rules so why allow her trickery to make up your mind for you. when a person commits a crime he has to pay for it by serving prison time…those are the rules. If a child acts out in school, his toys or recess priviledges are taken away…those are the rules. If florida or michigan move up the dates of their primaries per the dnc their delegates will lose their seats…those are the rules. both hilllary and barack knew of the rules and agreed to them by signing an agreement just as all did. why is it that she's the only person who doesn't understand or won't acknowledge she signed this agreement?

i love that all the photos of the "protestors" are just of those three sorry looking guys who look like the still live in their mom's basement.

like… all three of clinton's supporters came out to protest.

I don't know what it's going to take for you people to understand that obama does not have the best interest of this country at heart. I have never seen one person create so much hate between people in such a short period of time as obama has. This fool is too dangerous to even think about running this country.
If Hillary Clinton does not win the nominee then I will gladly give my vote to John McCain. He is far, far better than obama.

Florida has become the laughing stock of the world.From chads,corrupt election officials,the home of Rush Limbaugh .etc.The schoool system must be horrific when the average voter doesnt seem smarter than a 5th grader.

Discussion of what? The geniuses in charge of the Michigan and Florida primaries knew and understood the rules and the sanctions, broke the rules and was subjected to the sanctions.

Hello!

This process should be a no brainer. Fl and MI broke the rules. So they should be penalized for doing so. I thought it was funny to read an article on yesterday where Hillary attorneys are saying that Barack should not get any delegates from Michigan because THAT"S WHAT THE RULES SAY ABOUT UNCOMMITTED VOTES.

Hey Hillary attorney, why do you want to ABIDE BY THE RULES OF MICHIGAN AND NOT ABIDE BY THE RULES THAT THE DNC SET FORTH FOR FI AND MI????

Hillary and her backers make this world sick. They want to change the rules when the rules, as is, don't benefit them and keep the rules that do benefit them.

I hope the DNC is smarter than that and will go according to the rules like we all do.

Obama should NOt be left out of the mix..he played by the rules..I cannot even believe this is taking place!! Clinton signed the pledge before the voting. The rules apply to everyone..of course Mrs. THANG was winning then wasn't she. Unfair, unbelievable .The DNC should NOT allow elections to be set up in states who don't follow the rules.. Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot.. oh yeah that is fair.. what a mess and what a joke!

Her madness must not go unpunished! Whatever is she thinking?!

It'll be nice when we can finally put this behind us. And to annyone thinking about voting for McSame come Nov because their candidate wasn't nominated, remember the supreme court both gave women the right to choose and appointed Jr prez. With three justices likely to retire in the next term our next president will have a lasting effect either good or bad…

A Rule is a Rule…i do support Clinton But People this is the fault of the Officals that let the early vote in FL….Lets get them out of office…

She truly is delusional!

There's no fair way to count the votes. If they really want people's voices to be heard, they would just have another primary or caucus. Hillary's lawyer if a freaking idiot.

CNN, and blitzer have done all they can to help clinton. Clinton's campaign has cheated it's way through, and seems to be continuing that course. The news media in our country has become mediocre at best. That is not good for America.

Millions voted for Hillary, and now you want to give their voices to McCain? Why? Why you need half-black half-ready president when yuo can get full-ready woman President?

The formula is simple…

The rules were set well in advance.

Everyone agreed on the rules (including Clinton, FL, and MI) … even if they did not particularly LIKE the timing of the primaries, they AGREED to them.

The consequences for violation were laid out.

These rules were violated.

The consequences MUST be enacted if your rules are to EVER mean anything in the future.

… by seating these delegates, you are DESTROYING your party's ability to maintain internal order.

… and so, you will be effectively destroying your party.

Thank you Florida, Michigan, and Queen Clinton.

Just follow the rules; compromise will only result in strife!

What is Hillary really expecting from all this? to be crowned the nominee?

I'm sure right-thinking people are scratching their heads asking the same question and wondering if Hillary is really sane?!

If there is an organization in existence that can completely screw up the golden opportunity that is coming this November it is the Democratic Party.

Why have rules if no one is going to adhere to them?

Hillary will try to bend and twist any rule (including the Constitution) to benefit her. She ignors the fact that for each vote cast for Obama, there is a vote that is just plain anti-Hillary.

Long Live Democracy, Long Live the Democratic Party

There is no reason not to believe that the DNC Rules committee members will not do the right thing. This is an extraordinary primary for the Democrats. Democrats have two excellent candidates, but only one can be the nominee. No one who thinks objectively, at this point of time, believes that senator Clinton will be the nominee. It's over. Senator Obama is more than likely to be the nominee. The party should quickly put the primaries behind and unite behing senator Obama as the rightful presomptive nominee.
Senator Clinton knows well that the heart of democracy is upholding the rule of law. Florida and Michigan broke the rules and were punished accordingly. It is up to the DNC to adjust the rules and the punishment if it so choose. SENATOR CLINTON AND HER SUPPORTERS SHOULD STOP MESSING WITH THE PARTY'S DECISION and should stop putting pressure on the DNC to favor senator Clinton. Senator Clinton signed the agreement, overtly said back then that she was well aware that votes in Michigan and Florida would count for nothing. How come suddenly senator Clinton wants to re-write the rules to favor herselft? The word for this is selfishness.

I thought the rules were not to campaign in Michigan and Florida, but there was no rule stating that names needed to be off the ballot. From what I hear, the candidates were not supposed to campaign in Florida, according to the rules, but Obama aired commercials in Florida anyways. Seat the delegates based on election results, if Obama is the inevitable candidate, what's the problem with counting the delegates according to the results? We have rules at my work, but we adjust consequences on a case by case situation. Rules are rules, but they are not the be all end all.

Rules are rules. Hillary signed on to them just like everyone else in the beginning. She only cares about this now because she needs these votes to win. Do you think she'd be dangling the promise of statehood to Puerto Rico if she didn't need the votes? No. This is all political pandering at its worst. I wish all the Hillary supporters could see that! Obama has integrity! Don't punish him for following the rules of the party! It was a good fight, but let's end this now and get our party united!!!

Who is going to speak up for the White Water cover up that wasn't resolved ?

GET REAL! MICH.&FLA. SHOULD BE STRIPPED OF ALL ELECTRIAL RIGHTS BECAUSE THEY CROWED UP FRONT AND GOT CAUGHT AND SENT HOME. THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO BECAUSE NO ONE LIKES A CHEATER.

The fact that there has to be a committee meeting to determine how to penalize Michigan and Florida when it was very clear that they disqualified themselves from participating in any fashion in the nominating process makes me want to crossover to the dark side of the aisle (republican). Hillary Clinton and her kool aid club are behaving like spoiled children that won't take NO for an answer. I know, you clintonites won't EVER vote for Obama. Yes we know you plan on writing Hillary's name on the ballot in November. Grow up you morons. She's done!

HRC SAID THAT IT DIDN'T MATTER WHEN IT CAME TO THESE 2 STATES. NOW SHE SHE IS ACTING LIKE A KNIGHT IN SHINING GLORY. HER ACTIONS SPEAKS FOR HER — "DO ANYTHING TO WIN". WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THE HIGH ROAD AND GIVE HER CREDIT FOR BEING LIKE A LEAF IN THE WIND. NO MATTER WHAT SHE DOES AT THIS POINT SHE STILL LOSES. NOW IT IS UP TO THE PARTY TO GET TOGETHER AND WIPE OFF THE MUD FOR THE REPUBLICANS. WE KNOW NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS AT END OF THIS DNC MEETING, HRC IS GOING TO PUSH ON. THAT IS JUST THE CLINTONS MINDSET. HER "KITCHEN SINK" MENTALITY
IS HER DOWNFALL. NOT THE PARTY, NOT HER SUPPORTERS, BUT, HER'S AND HER'S ALONE.

A battle over rules and votes. This is how American's change 'Business as Usual'. The old Washington grid lock has trumped the politics of hope and one America.

Sad.

funny….. they dont have anything else to do….
Clinton would do anything to get that nomination… "The DNC sanctioned Michigan and Florida by excluding them from representation when the party nominates a candidate at the August convention" and hillary agreed ….. and now… because she s looooosing…. she plays is as if she really cares for the peoples' vote…… she is flipping…. as usual….. i hope that the DNC will manage to solve this problem once and for alllll……….

will a CLINTON supporter who SAYS COUNT ALL THE VOTES please explain how not counting the undecided in michigan who are voters who want there votes counted????????hOW IS THIS COUNTING ALL VOTES ALL VOTES SHALL COUNT BUT NOT 1 voter who suupportes MR. OBAMA votes should count ..Talk about talking out of both sides of your mouth …The will of the people or your will???

Do all the people involved in the descision regarding Florida and Michigan understand the intent of the rules. Is there some that subjectively interperet them for their own cause. I would think that the rules would have been written to minimize conflict and subjectiveness and allow for objective descision making. Make one. Please, quit with the rule bending, that is what got the country into the current mess it is in right now.

I wish America would wake . Do we want another President who does not play by the rules like the one we have now.Hillary has called for protest on the 31st , she disagrees with ever solution that has been made, all though she calls herself the candidate of solutions.Obama called for his supporters not to turn the DNC rules committee in to a circus. He has acted more like a President than both the Bush's and the both the Clinton's ever have.Hillary is like George a great divider.

A Democrat for America Connie from Indiana

There's precedent for reducing the delegations by 1/2, seems pretty cut and dry. So the big problem is…….. The popular vote lie: Clinton wants votes to be counted from elections that didn't. She campaigned in both states counting on Party Insiders to rewrite the rules for her in the end. We'll see if she gets her way….

After thought:
Nobody thought the Democratic primary system was totally flawed until the people elected some one unexpected. If anything Obama's nomination proves that the system ISN"T totally corrupt.

It is all a farce to save face for a botch job and rules . Obama has won by the rules of the DNC and not by the rules of the presidential election.

I have never heard in my life that losers get to win delegates. That how Obama was able to pull his tricks.. tail coating Hilary in big states and win states that DNC has no chance to win in the fall.

The general election is based on winner takes it all.state by state. If we follow this rule, Hilary is best candidate to get the nomiation.

It is best for Hillary to run as independent candidate..She will win the election. SHe will chip away from all the beleivers ..and bring "REAL CHANGE" to the process.

Hillary shoud not go back to the SENATE and bow to all these ungrateful, sexist friends of her.

SHe is above all these..loser at the DNC

IF not, MC Cain yo got my vote

Both Obama and Clinton, knew what they were doing when they signed and voted to not count the delegates for MI and FL.. Even after agreeing not to campaign in these states, Clinton slips behind Obama's back and added her name to the ballot in MI. This created a one-sided campaign - no wonder she wants these delegates included. Do you really think, honestly, that this is fair and balanced?

If the DNC wants to include the delegates from both states, it should be done with "open" fairness to both Democratic candidates. This is a mess that could have been avoided had the DNC not wanted to "control" when the primaries were to be held in these states. It is unfair to have only "one" name on the ballot in the State of MI, and Clinton should have been more honest and open to Obama giving him an opportunity to cast his name on the ballot, too. This is and was the beginning of Clinton's deceitfulness to win the nomination and it has been that way since the work "get-go" to get the nomination by changing the "rules" as the campaigning continues.

The question should be - what part of "we will not campaign in the two states and we will not count the delegates because of the Republicians voting to move the date of the primaries ahead of the regularly schedule" that both the Clinton supporters and Clinton, herself, do not understand? A 10 year old child could figure out what that means, and, if that child was in a game against someone else, he/she would be "forced" to abide by the rules. If Clinton cannot understand what she voted for and why she voted, then I question her ability to be a president.

The rules apply to both candidates, and Obama has the right to be counted in the MI primary, even though his name was not on the ballot. Little did he or the voters knew that Clinton would go around the ruling and put her name on the ballot anyway. If the Clinton supporters call this "fair" then I have to ask them what is "fair and balanced" for Obama? Truthfully!

I admire Obama for following the rules and think his honesty and his intergity to abide by the rules deserves some merits. Clinton's lies and deceit should not be honored and if they are, there will be many voters, including myself that will denounce the Democratic party.

Rules are rules, why not followed them.

I think Billy said it best "Jesse Jackson ran a good campaign in 84 and 88″. Meet his wife, the Jesse Jackson candidate of 2008. She appeals to a charged, dedicated group (women) that see this as a historic opportunity to finally be represented equally.

While a noble sentiment, this is not about men vs women…. its about who is the best candidate and ran BY THE RULES AND WON.

That is clearly NOT CLINTON. She needs to rule out caucuses, include Puerto Rico, include MI and FL and ignore the delegate system to even stand a chance.

She came in with all the positives. More money, more name recognition, Bill Clinton stumping for her, polls with her in the lead…. and STILL SHE COULD NOT WIN.

Stop trying to change the rules and accept it.

Why doesn't someone just play the video clip from way back when, when Clinton agreed that the votes shouldn't count? Story over. She is back tracking because she is losing, and a sore loser. She is pathetic.

She thinks she is owed the presidency. America is TIRED of the Clintons. Look forward people, not back…

This is a mess. You have to follow the rules or everyone will be casting a vote after New Years.

Obama's people said "he followed the rules" yet he did have ads in Florida. They are supposedly excusable because they were "national buy", but I don't buy that–TV shows and commercials have been removed from limited markets in the past because they were offensive to certain communities. His campaign made no effort to exercise that option, nor did they simply remove the ads nationally for a brief time. It was hardly an innocent move.

As for removing his name from the MI ballot, that was not required in the rules nor in the pledge the candidates signed. It was done at the last minute and certainly appears to be a political rather than a noble move.

I am furious about this closed session, after it was announced the meeting would be open and televised.

I am also furious that ANY meaning is being drawn from the MI and FL primaries. Hillary didn't win either one. No one thought those primaries would count. It isn't a question of counting the votes cast because more important are the votes that would have been cast if the citizens had thought their votes would eventually be counted.

This is a travesty. I've been voting Democratic for 40 years, and I am fed up.

The "blatantly racist" comments spouted by Howard Dean at the top of his speech were mostly against whites by AA and their supporters! Americans will not be fooled by Dean and his "unity" ravings.He should have stepped in long ago and stood up for Clinton because of the extreme bias of left wing media and democrats.

Just let the spoilt lady have her way now! It will not affect the outcome. If Clinton wants to follow old style soviet "election" processes - and claim victory when she was the only one on the ballot, so denying Obama a single delegate from Michigan, her non democratic hypocrisy will be exposed. The super delegates will flock to Obama and end this farce.

If DNC Comittee would follow the rules then the problem could solved easy: both candidates signed agriment about Michigan and Florida. Comittee have to follow decision made before by party and this agriment. But Clinton now changed the mind. Party bosses have to say her: This is over rules!
Instead of this they with Committee members taking sides. This mess happen because part of this group like yo push ahead Clinton. They were ignoring own obligation to play by rules. What is their real interest? Such a shame!

There undoubtedly will be a solution that provides for seating of delegates from Michigan and Florida; however, Sen. Clinton and her supporters should understand that there must be a penalty for ignoring the previous agreement accepted by both candidates. Rules cannot be changed as the primary season draws to a close merely because they no longer are favorable to the circumstances of your candidate.

it is a Shame to hillary .she is being desparate. lets wait and see

hope hillary sticks by her word, when she has to bow out, that she works hard for obama to win the election for the top honor of our great country

The fact that Clinton signed a pledge in support ot the cancellation of the florida and michigan votes ealier on , and now trying to reverse it to her own advantage potrays her as something of a political chamellion that should be distanced and closely watched.

The integrity of the democratic party , its rules and that of its officials is at stake. The world is watching!!

The Democratic Party needs to take a long, hard look at itself, especially the party leadership. It may be time to clean house.

Hillary won both states and should be given the delegates due to her.

This ain't rocket science folks! The rules at the beginning of the game was FL and MI "would not count for anything". The nation has voted. Now, HRC wants to change the rules to say that FL and MI count. No way, my dear.

There are only two options:
1) enforce the rules and DO NOT seat the delegates
2) seat the delegates but DO NOT allow them to impact the nominee in anyway whatsoever (50/50 split on delegates and popular vote)

Anything else equals a split party and a loss in November!

It is lugubrous to see how controversial messiah Clinton is managing to imagine that she would be the nominee!If Obama was in her position,i believe he wouldn't even get a breather.He would have been bundled out,and no one would ever raise an eye brow.But the truth is;it is too late to halt Obama now.Just too late.Whoever emerges as the democratic nominee,will be the next American president.

Split them 50/50 and move on for hell sakes.

GO Hillary !!! Hillary in 08 !!!

AS YOU CAN TELL BY MY BLOG NAME I AM AN IDIOT!!!!

I ALSO HAVE TO SCREAM EVERY TIME I POST BECAUSE I LIVE IN A INSANE ASYLUM AND PEOPLE ARE WALKING AROUND SCREAMING AT THEMSELFS!!!!

I REALLY KNOW THAT HILLARY IS A LIAR AND A CHEATER!!!!!

AND OBAMA WILL WIN AND BE THE PRESIDENT!!!!!!!

BUT I LOVE HILLARY…..SOMEBODY HELP ME!!!!!!!!

This is in fact a case of changing the goal post in favor of a player.
If all this could be happening within the democrats in USA, why is America coming in to talk to poor underdeveloped countries like Boma, Zimbabwe, Kenya etc. If the Clintons use their incumbency to change the rule, twist other Americans arms to get and retain power then we should leave for Christ sake Mugabe of Zimbabwe alone.

The Iron Lady of US, thank God you're not from Africa or Asia, you could have made the poor Bill that you're dragging on the mud a life president since you were just fronting him while in control.

Poor Bill, we understand what you're going through but God will see you through this mess I a short time

I doubt CNN will even post this since I am pro Clinton, but here goes. I don't care about the DNC and their agenda. The voters are being punished and they were not the ones to change the date. If this nonsense were resolved correctly from the get go, Hillary would have won Florida handily, and thus gained momentum. momentum is the crucial point. It is momentum that helped Obama , and momentum would have helped Hillary. But it is too late now for momentum. The voters are being penalized for the acts of others. Why is the DNC so hellbent at sending a pathetic liberal left wing nut to the general election when he doesn't have a chance on hell of winning. The republican machine will chew him up. They have gone after Hillary for ten years and she is still standing. Obama will be taken down. I, along with many many other Democrats will hold my nose and vote for McCain over Obama, because Obama is a pathetic radical racist. CNN has also contributed by offering their bias for Obama. I don't get this whole phenomenon with Obama. He has no credentials or substance. Anyway, if you guys want him so bad, and you may get him, be prepared for four more years of Republican rule. At least McCain is a patriot who served his country. I can vote for him.

Call me a cynic, but I doubt this will end today. I feel that the Clintons will continue to manipulate the system and use their loyal supporters to get the Democratic nomination. At the Convention, all delegates from Florida will be seated proportionally, on a 1-1 basis. As far as the the "Putin-esque" vote in Michigan, where the Clintons were the only ones shown by name, the Clintons will get all of those votes and "uncommited" will count as zero.

Many of the superdelegates will move to the Clintons, for one of several reasons. A lot of angry Democrats will stay home or vote Republican. The Clintons will win the nomination and the Democrats will lose the election. The Democratic Party will be badly damaged, and McBush will start moving his furniture into the White House on January 20th.

These Clinton supporters want her to win because she will be the first female president and for no other reason. She can't say or do anything wrong in their eyes. Not her sniper fire lie, her pedophile pastor or her campaign fraud investigation will deter them. Oh I forgot the media is not covering her pedophile pastor or the campaign fraud investigation because this is Clinton News Network (CNN). I dare you to print this!

Here we go again, another canidate trying hard to cheat their way into the white house. Her and Bill will do anything to be back in. ITS SAD.

hillary is a liar, and a panderer, just like bubba…….. she has nothing to lose by causeing decent in the ranks, it is what the clinton's do best. both agreed to the rules. things went south for hillbilly, soooooooooooooooooooooooo, change the rules. bake some cookies hill.

Well if Hillary can get the rules changed in her advantage and count the votes she thinks are in her advantage then Obama should start yelling for affirmative action for white house jobs not just privet sector jobs that way we won't have to count anyone's vote, and he will still win! Why not if its good enough for all the other job positions in the country way not the white house?

Florida should stand as is. Neither campaigned there and he lost. Michigan should have a new vote paid for by the DNC because they are the one's who screwed this thing up. I also feel that the Super delegates should pull all there endorsements for either candidate until they can resolve this issue and then endorse the strongest candidate. They should at least endorse the winner of there state. These super delegates should be looking at how there state voted and follow there lead. If they would rather take this away from there voters , then the voters of there state should vote for there candidate in other ways. Either by writing there name on the ballot , ( which would be a wasted vote ) or switch parties and show them how it feels to be ignored and vote for the Republican candidate ( John McCain ). I and my family will do the latter and switch parties for this election and many more if they can't fix this party. NOBAMA Go Hillary or give my family John McCain

PLEASE DON'T LET HILLARY ***STEAL*** OUR STATE'S DELEGATES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Everyone was intending to play by the rules set forth by the DNC, it was HRC that is now playing dirty.

…how can anyone ever trust her in any decision???

Barack,

You think you're fooling people into thinking that you have the political skills to win a general campaign or the qualifications to be President of the United States, but you're not.

Even now, with what little any of us really knows about you and your short and all-too-insignificant political career, you're only fooling a little less than half the Democratic Party.

If the Party makes you the nominee, it would be a gamble at best. (I won't even say what it would be at worst.)

You're smart enough to know that your candidacy was way too premature and that going with you would be a gamble at best and could potentially destroy the Democratic Party as a result of you losing in November. But, then again, you've never let anything else come before you and your own advancement (see your unethical behavior in using the rules to cut your Democratic competitors out of the race for state Senate in the 1996). So I guess you can care less about the Party or the country.

Well, the rest of us–those who see you for what you are, and those of us who have yet to get over their crush on you and see you for what you are–DO CARE.

And you should be ashamed of yourself.

HILLARY CLINTON '08

Would you please address ALL THE RULES that were broken, not just those in Florida and Michigan. There was also a rule that anyone (Barack Obama) who shows ads in those states would be totally stripped o their delegates So what about that rule? He did run national ads that appeared in Florida.

What a sham and complete waste of money and time. It doesn't matter what the DNC decides today. If Hillary doesn't walk away with everything, she will fight, appeal, and drag this on to the convention. She has too much pride to concede and will do anything to win…with no shame. How come everyone is bowing to this monster?

Why aren't the rules the rules. Should other states no change their rules in light of what's now happening? What about those that didn't vote in Michigan and