May 31, 2008
Posted: May 31st, 2008 07:03 PM ET

From

WASHINGTON (CNN) - The Rules and Bylaws Committee narrowly voted Saturday against a motion by panel member Alice Huffman to fully seat Florida's delegation, sparking chaos in the ballroom where the panel was meeting, before voting almost unanimously to seat the full delegation but halve its voting strength.

The crowd grew increasingly vocal during the vote over Huffman's motion, as many in the audience began shouting at the members of the committee, hissing and chanting "Denver! Denver!" the site of the Democratic National Convention this summer.

Filed under: DNC • Florida


Nicolas Smith   June 1st, 2008 12:11 am ET

Great lets move on and give credit to the clintons for getting the FL and Mi delegates seated. Now the math is still very difficult for her and her husband to succeed. She has proven she is a fighter but a poor leader because the management of her campaign was poor. Obama out foxed her again. I hope she is not going to show that she is a power hunger individual hiding behind older women and blue colar voters. Life is hard in America because of the RNC and Bush don't reinvent the wheel mrs clinton. Be wise..... unite do not divide.

PSmith   June 1st, 2008 12:10 am ET

There should be a new rule. Get rid of the DNC for creating such a rule. How can a bunch of incompetent people make a rule to disinfranchise a whole state.

What a bunch of hipocrites!

Denver or Write Hillary's name on the ballot!

James Lewis   June 1st, 2008 12:09 am ET

I hear a great deal of controversy and talk that it is unfair not to seat the delegates and votes in Florida and Michigan, and I understand it to a degree, my only argument is that why didn't anyone from the Clinton campaign contest before she was losing the democratic nomination? If it is unfair now, why wasn't it when they initially made the decision.

Fair is Fair - POST MY COMMENT!!!   June 1st, 2008 12:06 am ET

I think democracy was carried out today in the best possible way for each of the candidates as well as the voters and non voters in the states of Florida and Michigan. As an Internet onlooker of the process, it was good to be able to witness "transparency" (to the extent that it was) in the political process by elected/appointed officials. In this sense, everybody won today although some may not want to concede to that (pardon the pun Hillary supporters). I would be interested to know how many people watched the entire process as I did either on television or via Internet. I do hope others around the world will post here to let us know if they were watching and what they thought of todays proceedings and results. Democrats Unite 08/2012!

lamont austin   June 1st, 2008 12:05 am ET

4 weeks ago I said to friends, how could hilliary clinton argue a side that she agreed to and signed off on and then try to dispute they should be seated. I also said, my mother always taught me to play by the rules and if you change the rules in the middle of the game , thats cheating.. (a speaker today on the panel said the same thing) Didnt we as americans all learn the same thing? and the only way to solve the problem is to give equal votes to each candidate. (wich they did, why was that so hard)

I also feel like hilliary clinton is a liar and a cheat, i cant believe people would vote for somebody who bold faced lied 3-4 times befor telling the truth, how could anybody vote for someone who said"i voted for the war but didnt want to vote for the war",

mark in virginia   June 1st, 2008 12:04 am ET

first of all i am a republican, a republican that is very divided on the candidates...... but i was very impressed with the courage the committe showed today and how they pulled together and made the right decision.... one of the committee members.... simply put it out there so easily..... her momma said, play by the rules.... it is time for mr. ickes to give it up, take his ball and go home, maybe along the way bill and hillary will go to, and on june 3rd, the part will hopefully settle it all down..... and give obama his place in history.. as for me
whoever that lady was, that had to be removed from the meeting and threatened to vote for McCain.......
maybe i can take her place and support the democratic party for change.....

any democrats out there that would welcome my interest in the party

Helen, GA   June 1st, 2008 12:03 am ET

DNC has moved to the left so much that I have no place in this party. Howard Dean is giving lecture to the DNC Bylaws committee. Harry reid, Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama are int he same boat. Vote Jophn McCain.

Obedience is better than Sacrifice   June 1st, 2008 12:03 am ET

Is Cnn afraid of the Clintons too ? why not post my comment after hours……… Is the Presidency the birth right of some people? This decision is not fair. But we are keenly watching

Franki   June 1st, 2008 12:03 am ET

Let's come together

Lee in Fort Worth   June 1st, 2008 12:02 am ET

Right on Dave.......

Tina   June 1st, 2008 12:00 am ET

"Denver, Denver" - are these people for real. We will never win the general election if we keep fighting among each other. Howard Dean said it well in his opening statement today:
"It's about the party – not the candidate" !
It is in the Clinton's hands to finally be concede and be reasonable here for the greater good instead of stirring up all this hatred and feeding the fire.

Carrington Houndstooth III   June 1st, 2008 12:00 am ET

Go Hillary!

You are our only chance to win the whitehouse!

fred   June 1st, 2008 12:00 am ET

I think that Sen. Clinton will make a grave mistake if she takes her campaign to the convention. I honestly believe that by going all the way to the convention she will fan the flames of disunity and leave many of her followers bitter and likely not to vote for Sen. Obama when he is in all likelihood to be the nominee. I think she will ruin her chances for a 2012 run for the presidency and maybe even damage her entire political career. I realize the race is close, but I think it's just too much of a stretch at this point for her to make the numbers work. I think she feels like in the end she is going to win the political lottery and be vindicated, but at what cost?

Lynn Gayton   June 1st, 2008 12:00 am ET

Rules are to be played by which they are set up and agreed to. Not changed in the middle of the game.

Chris from Michigan   May 31st, 2008 11:59 pm ET

Agree with Dave in Maryland. Same goes for both Florida and Michigan. As a Michigander I should be thankful that the DNC decided to bend the rules just so Hillary could get her way. I find it disgusting though that they'll appeal all the way to the convention if need be on Michigan...quite sad.

adam   May 31st, 2008 11:58 pm ET

This proves DEMOCRACY DOESN'T EXIST!!

VOTE REPUBLICAN – McCAIN 2008!!!!

Roofin Reality, Houston, Tx.   May 31st, 2008 11:58 pm ET

Agree. They were told they'd get zero, and they got half. Not bad at all. Seems everyone was fairly okay with this so let's move forward and get on with the General Election campaigning.

Jonathan   May 31st, 2008 11:58 pm ET

I hope people understand that the Democratic Party doesn't have to give anyone a say. Parties don't exist under the constitution. They're just a good way of organizing people. There's no way anyone could force the DNC to give ANY state a vote, since they don't actually exist under the constitution. So when the DNC elects whoever, the people had a say, but it's the party leaders who really allow it. If they want to completely toss out all the votes and nominate Al Gore, they can. There's nothing that the law can do to stop them.

Chris   May 31st, 2008 11:58 pm ET

I'm a Floridian and it's comical to me that back when the Florida Democratic Party was told not to move their primary or the votes would not be counted there simply was no uproar by democrats in Florida. ONLY when it became apparent that Hillary Clinton was not going to win the nomination did the Florida votes become important and these Clinton supporters in Florida came out of the woodwork complaining that their votes should count. Talk about adults acting like children.

I hope all of the crying and whining was still worth it Clinton supporters.
Well Hillary Clinton still is not going to win.

colene   May 31st, 2008 11:57 pm ET

I second. Things are working out very well on to November!

El Máximo Gutierrez   May 31st, 2008 11:57 pm ET

WE LOVE YOU OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

EX-HILLARY SUPPORTERS NOW REALIZE THAT SHE IS A LYING MANIPULATOR WHO MUST BE STOPPED!!

OBAMA '08 & '12

Si Se PuEdE jEs We CaN sI sE pUeDe JeS wE cAN!!!!!!!!!!

Tina   May 31st, 2008 11:57 pm ET

good job! now lets move forward to the general election. Hillary you are great but its time to give in. Obama will win the nomination

Obama 08

Brendose, Oceanside CA   May 31st, 2008 11:56 pm ET

At least it was a compromise.....come on Hillary supporters....come back to reality.........and join once again the Democratic Party and Support Obama. It's over.......now it's time to unite and defeat the real evil.........McCain.

Don't be sore losers....it makes you look worse. Go out with dignity. Realize that you put up a good fight, created history, and opened the doors for a more diverse selection for President in the years to come.

silas   May 31st, 2008 11:55 pm ET

Yea, it's time for us to come together. I hope Bill and Hilary will bring the party together now. Pls Guys, Pls this is the time

David King   May 31st, 2008 11:54 pm ET

OBAMA '08 Baby!!!!!!!

Adam   May 31st, 2008 11:53 pm ET

OK, so since the rules apparently don't mean anything, is the first primary for the next presidential election going to be January 27, 2009?

Tom Lites   May 31st, 2008 11:53 pm ET

I imagine there wouldn't be all this talk about breaking the rules had obama not taken his name off the ballot in michigan. If he is so firmly convicted about not counting the votes if his name was on the ballot in florida but not in michigan? Sounds more like a poor political decision. Also this church problem of his isn't going away. How will American's identify with someone who left his church of 20+ years due to political pressure? I think thats probably worse than staying in the church. It does seem elitist, Hillary will win the popular vote and it is political suicide for superdelegates to not support her. If she is not nominated the democrats will destroy their chances.

jack   May 31st, 2008 11:51 pm ET

Anyone who follows Hillary in a fight all the way to Denver is just asking for a McBush victory. And what about the Supreme Court??? Do we really need more GOP judges sitting on that bench??? Think about Roe v Wade?? Think about how the GOP controled bench took away the Fla. vote and gave it to the loser of that race. Can we all stand by and watch America go down the toliet by letting another Republican into the White House?
It is not about Obama or Hillary, it is all about the DONKEY or the ELEPHANT.

VOTE YOUR PARTY NOT THE PERSON

malia   May 31st, 2008 11:50 pm ET

This is all part of the game played by Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean and the rest of the Democrats in order to crush Hillary, I can guarantee you, you will pay for it in November.

MP-pennsylvania   May 31st, 2008 11:48 pm ET

I hope those who did not vote will not be desfranchised and stay with the party

Elegua   May 31st, 2008 11:47 pm ET

hilarious or hatelarius has managed to destroy our party, she acts more republican than McBush, even Bush and McCain are somewhat more decent than this evil creature...........

should something happen to our next president you know who to look for, as the planner, enabler and overall evil creature..

this woman has no name, no soul, may the universe give her what she deserves...............NO SOUL

julie   May 31st, 2008 11:46 pm ET

Even this "compromise" is pretty outrageous after Hillary and all involved agreed Florida and Michigan would be disqualified. Is it over? No. The Clintons want to win "whatever it takes." Forget the cost to the party and the country. Obsessive ambition is dangerous.

World view   May 31st, 2008 11:46 pm ET

Florida was easier than Michigan. I think the committee did the best it could.

Fairness and Unity   May 31st, 2008 11:44 pm ET

It is about time. The Hillary supporters that were there showed very little respect for the democratic process and thier candidate. Harold Icky (yes I meant icy, as in nasty) and his polictical posturing was disgusting. This was an opportunity to gain party unitiy, but the Hillary camp still wants to divide. It sickens me, because they knew the rules before hand and Hillary agreed publicly and privately to those rules.

Lastly, Rules…Rule!!

Grown Ups Taking Charge   May 31st, 2008 11:42 pm ET

Today's RBC meeting was merely a glimpse of how great the Democratic Party can be once again when they sit down at the table like adults and work out their differences for the GOOD OF THE PARTY/COUNTRY not the individual candidates.

While I am proud to throw my support behind Sen. Obama, I was equally proud today of the very difficult task faced by the members of the RBC who were clearly Sen. Clinton supporters but had to show their loyalty to the party over her greatest desires/ambitions simply because she is their preferred candidate. This is what being about the WE vs the I is all about.

Harold Ickes' behavior was the height of immaturity and while I empathize with the Clinton supporters in attendance at the meeting and their disappointment in the outcome, they definitely did not honor themselves or their candidate with some of the behavior exhibited and courageously called out by RBC member and Clinton supporter Alice Huffman

Critical View   May 31st, 2008 11:41 pm ET

To Win in November: Let FL and MI Redo Primary

The Democratic Rules Committee’s (DRC) decision on FL and MI was made apparently based on two factors: (1) to seat the delegates, and (2) not to drastically change Obama’s delegation lead. However, this decision failed to accomplish what I have been advocating: rules must be fair, legal, and winning. For the FL case, the decision is probably legal, but it is not fair to reduce each delegate to ½ vote. For MI case, the decision is neither legal nor fair. Since Obama name was not on the ballot, how could DRC allocate delegates to him? As I mentioned before, if DNC punish FL and MI, they may just as well kiss good bye to these two states and accept the defeat in November. Now the DRC have decided to punish FL and MI, are Democrats prepared to give up these two states? I have given DNC the following advice: the only fair, legal, and winning solution to this problem is to redo the primary in Florida and Michigan. I doubt that there are enough wisdom and power in the Democratic leadership to see this point and to reverse the course.

Dave in Maryland   May 31st, 2008 11:41 pm ET

Not bad for breaking the rules….. Forward march onto the General election.

monyneen   May 31st, 2008 11:41 pm ET

the DNC have messed this one up . Fl. should have ALL there votes counted for Hillary . Watch out Denver and watch out in 08 . Obama will LOSE the election if Clinton is not treated fairly .

Jesse   May 31st, 2008 11:39 pm ET

People who slapped in the face by this half vote should remember the politicians that betrayed them when it comes election time.

The voters are penalized for the action of some politicians. Pathetic.

Where is the freedom and Democracy in that?

Looks like more of a dictatorship in regards to it favoring the candidate of choice for Dean, Gore, Kennedy and Kerry.

Ernest   May 31st, 2008 11:38 pm ET

I think that is fair.

Clinton For President   May 31st, 2008 11:37 pm ET

FL should be completely seated. All the candidates were on the ballot. Obama ran ads. Take it to the convention, Mrs. Clinton!

Ivan, Chicago, Illinois   May 31st, 2008 11:34 pm ET

The only way I will vote for Obama is if the Democratic party changes our primary system. A winner takes all the delegates, closed primaries no Independents or Republican allowed to vote, no cacuses, and if there are superdelegates, either they're able to vote for whoever they want, or there are rules put in place who they can vote for. And the latter then what need is there for superdelegates?
I believe this system was put in place by McGovern and the "Left" wing of the party, and since then how many elections have we won?
One by Carter because of "Watergate", Two by Clinton because he ran from the "Center", the "Left" Zero.
Obama running from the"Left" will lose to McCain.

David L. Harbison   May 31st, 2008 11:33 pm ET

I fully exspected that only half of the Michigan Delegates would be seated because all uncommitted votes might have been for other candidates and Obama's among other took thier names of the ballot. But Florida is a very different situation altogether and if i was in Hillary Clinton's shoes i wound contest it. Take it to the credentials committe in August. I feel that in Florida what Obama atleast ran ads, regardless of his excuses for them, He broke the rules and campaigned. Hillary should have gotten everything in Floriad that the people gave her. I don't believe for one minute that the DNC has treated Hillary fairly. You people are the one's Chasing her supporters out of the Democratic party.So don't pretend that all things are forgiven. Just know that its the parties fault in the first place.

Ed, Santa Fe, NM   May 31st, 2008 11:32 pm ET

BYE BYE, HILLARY!!!!

joe   May 31st, 2008 11:29 pm ET

It's on wonder the Democrats have been losers.

Veronica Pais   May 31st, 2008 11:29 pm ET

I've never joined a party, I'm a swing voter, who voted for for a democrate for the first time, and I joined the Democrate party in support of Hillary Clinton. After seeing today's rules committee actually take delegates from Hillary and give them to the apposing candidate shocked me to my very core. It could have been done to McCain, Obama, whoever and I would have felt the same. I'm fully regretting my decision to actually join a party that could do this. Every word Harold Icky said could not have been better worded. To take a candidates delegates and acutally award them to someone else told me that your party is not for me and when will they do it to my state if this should ever happen again. I will be withdrawing from the Democrate Party. The Republican never messed with my vote and I'm secured it won't. This panel of rules, who repeatedly mouthed following the rule should have applied it the the greatest rule which is our Constitution. I was going to vote for either candidate if it was just a 50/50, until some of Clinton's earned delegates, by voters who voted for her, were given away. I'm 54, and in all my year's involved in politics, I have never witnessed anything like this. I cannot express deeply enough the damage that this has done to my support to any party. I should never have joined. The first time in my life I actually joined a party and look what they did. You may say that this comes from my disapointment because I supported Hillary Clinton, but you could not be more wrong. This is strickly due to those earned delegate given to a another. I will return my vote where I know it counts. I would rather live another four years with Republicans to prove a point that a persons vote is more important and the Constitution is stronger that a party's rules. I guess you can say in November my vote will count. What was done to Michigan, really was done to all other 48 states if things out of the voters control ever happens to them.

If Hillary goes to the convention and wins I might reconsider my vote since I will see that the voters count. Only if I am convinced. I will now go to the Democratic website and see how I can withdraw my membership. Veronica Pais, San Antonio, TX Independent again

RockyHF   May 31st, 2008 11:28 pm ET

This has gone on far to long. The DNC has said their peace and it is what it is. Hillary and camp need to move on and help bring the party together in order to win the election and bring a DEM back into the White House!

jaylo   May 31st, 2008 11:26 pm ET

Trouble ahead.

Norma Thoma   May 31st, 2008 11:21 pm ET

Totally discussed that I, as an American will only be represented by half a vote. The DNC Committee meeting was a total fiasco and first thing Monday morning I will be changing my party affiliation to that of Republican so that I can be recognized as a 100% American and not a 50% American in the voting booth. At 74, I have been a Democrat all my life and voted a straight democratic ticket in every election, but I am now totally dismayed at the way the party has handled the Florida Elections. We aren't a bunch of illeterates, we read the papers, listen to the news, we knew who we wanted to vote for and I think Harold Ickes summed it all up. Thanks Harold.

Sherri   May 31st, 2008 11:20 pm ET

Michigan deserved nothing, zero, zilch! The Florida decision is okay.

I can live with the compromise, but I certainly don't like the message of anything being gained by cheating and breaking the rules.

I will never trust Hillary Clinton. She is a terrible example for the young women of our country.

Tyler   May 31st, 2008 11:20 pm ET

Excellent decision by the DNC. Hopefully we can get on with the general election campaign starting wednesday.

Gboro4Obama   May 31st, 2008 11:17 pm ET

For all of the ppl that were outside saying that they would take this "Fight" onward, I think that is CRAZY!!! 4 What!!! bc if you are a TRUE member of the Democratic Party it should matter so much on who is in the white house, as long as a Democratic is there leading the way for the american ppl. I think this whole election has put on the table what America has tried so hard to hide. The fact that Race still today plays a role in american government, and with the U.S. as a whole. And for Mrs. Clinton to say that she gets the Blue Collar white vote, which is less educated, and have strong moral views. I say this note all "Blue Collar" workers are white, there are some African American, and other groups that work just as hard if not harder! I think the american ppl need to wake up, and look @ the big picture here. And the fact that have a "Black" man be president will show that this union is willing to change what is so commonly know around the world. And we as a nation will be the driving force of that change around the world.

OBAMA 08

chuckd   May 31st, 2008 11:12 pm ET

The decision was a good one for the party. I hope that this spells the end for a ugly primary fight. But I have strong feeling that Senator Clinton will continue in her bid to gain the nomination, know matter how much it hurts the party.

Shrimp Barnicles, somewhere in New York.   May 31st, 2008 11:12 pm ET

No matter how you slice and dice the problem, someone is going to end up disenfranchised because Clinton and her folks decided to change the rules in the middle of the game. CLINTON, EARLIER , AGREED THAT THOSE VOTES WOULDN'T COUNT!! NOW THAT SHE SMELLING DEFEAT, SHE IS, ALL OF A SUDDEN, IN FAVOR OF COUNTING THE VOTES. You see why most Americans just can't trust this woman. Poor woman.

I heard some of her funs and surrogates including Bill Nelson demanding the delegates of Florida be seated " As- is" and that this will show that all votes are respected. WRONG!!

My opinion is: Seating all the delegates based on the Super Teusday primary "As- is" will still leave some folks disenfranchised. Who are these folks? - Those who stayed home because they were told by the DNC that their votes wouldn't count.– most of whom were likely college age voters. Are we going to neglet them too, Mr. Nelson?

Rules are rules but the compromise was acceptable though it wasn't fair to Obama. He was penalized for abiding by the DNC's rules.

Eric   May 31st, 2008 11:11 pm ET

Great...now that everyone's voice will be heard; let's close this primary up, and move on to the general with McCain

arun   May 31st, 2008 11:11 pm ET

Clinton supporters think that rules mean nothing and if they do not get their way they are going to throw a hissy fit. Unfortunately by behaving like a three year old when denied candy, their leader has shown that she is not fit to lead or even be the next in line.

jon   May 31st, 2008 11:07 pm ET

This is not the democratic party. What happened to every vote counts? Didn't they argue that with the REPUBLICANS last time we held an election. Hillary.. go independent.. we will vote for you. You will split the dem. ticket. Obama won't win the election anyways since us Clinton supporters won't vote for him.

lou   May 31st, 2008 11:05 pm ET

This is an indication of things to come if the Democrats take over everything. Disenfranchising their own voters, punishing their own constituency for doing what they thought was right for them. A house divided against itself cannot stand. Don't let the Democrats do to America what they are doing to their own party. Stand against this divisive elitist nonsense.

Consciousness   May 31st, 2008 11:03 pm ET

How can any members on this Democratic Panel Vote No and say this is DEMOCRATIC. The American Citizens in Florida that voted in this National Primary voted because ALL VOTES are suppose to count in a FREE Nation.

If the votes are not counted 100% and delegates seated at the convention this Party, is Not Democratic and will be choosing not to support the Rights of all Americans.

This Democratic Party by VOTING NO is TAKING this VOTING RIGHT AWAY from the Americans Citizens in FLORIDA.

This was a POLITICAL ISSUE created by the Democrats in LEADERSHIP to TAKE AWAY the Right to VOTE making this a DICTATORSHIP NOT the VOICE of CITIZENS in Florida.

Welcome to the Socialistic Dictatorship of the Democratic Party. Freedom is a joke to the Democratic Party!

VADemocrat   May 31st, 2008 11:02 pm ET

Just goes to show why we lost in 2000. The DNC didn't take into consideration that it was the REPUBLICANS in Florida that changed the date, not the Democrats. The Democrats had to hold their primary on the same day as the Republicans, because NO ONE wanted to pay for an election on a different date. WHY PUNISH FLORIDA DEMOCRATS FOR SOMETHING THE REPUBLICANS DID.

This is the same reason we lost Florida and the Presidency in 2000. The DNC was too wussy to stand up to the Republicans in charge!

one nation under god!!!!   May 31st, 2008 11:02 pm ET

I see the politburro chose its premier.Now all you moderate Dems a.k.a clinton supporters now know how republicans are treated by the liberal fascist media.Reject the radicals in your party for the good of the country.WE republicans did also.Clinton should be McCains V.P because he is a 1 term president and she will be a shoe in for 2012.We can unite the country and get stuff done.If obama is elected he will be a lame duck immediately.

Penni Parr   May 31st, 2008 11:02 pm ET

I will never vote for Obama. I will either not vote, or vote for McCain. Obama has neither the experience nor the ethics I want in a president.
What a sad day for our country.

Maya   May 31st, 2008 11:02 pm ET

Hillary or McCain

Adios democrat.

Teri from Ohio   May 31st, 2008 11:01 pm ET

"Everyone knows these votes won't count." if the Democrats lose in November. It's YOUR fault Hillary!

Mary May King   May 31st, 2008 11:00 pm ET

There are three reasons America needs Florida: (1) Florida gives the U.S. some attachment to Key West, (2) Disney World, and (3) the most inept bunch of Democratic voters in the country. The third provides entertainment when you can't go to the first two.

Blinded by the Lie   May 31st, 2008 10:58 pm ET

We need to unite after this,,,leave all differences behind and unite behind the DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE...I don't cre who it is as long as it is a DEMOCRAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Beverly, NYC   May 31st, 2008 10:57 pm ET

At last FL & MI are over. Three more to go and on to November.
GO OBAMA!!!!

amy scheer   May 31st, 2008 10:57 pm ET

The demoocrats just lost my vote for Hilary Clinton. I will vote for McCaine rather than Oboma. Our votes have been hijacked!! I think i may register as an independent as soon as this election is over. Most of the people I spoke to said about the same thing. I see how how slanted the news casters are in favor of Oboma.

Tom   May 31st, 2008 10:50 pm ET

I love how the Hillary supporters were so civil and acted like adults.

/no, you can't steal the nomination
//not yours

ashley   May 31st, 2008 10:50 pm ET

That was the only fair thing to do.

Mildheath   May 31st, 2008 10:49 pm ET

Good decision!!!!

Go Obama Americas Next President

Ron Parsell   May 31st, 2008 10:47 pm ET

Clinton supporters obnoxious behavior at the hearing sealed her fate with me. Let's be honest, Mrs Clinton's path to power is derived from her husbands career. Even her Senate seat was undeserved and unearned on her own. That fact alone is enough reason to reject Mrs Clinton who thinks she is entitled to the nomination. This is not a monarchy. She has the same path to power as the current failure, who was the playboy loser son of a President. He'd never gotten a job on his own..Should we repeat this nightmare with Mrs Clinton ? I think not, and to her obnoxious, poor loser, supporters, goodby and goodluck in your new life as Republicans..They'll love you.

paul   May 31st, 2008 10:45 pm ET

An attempt to change the rules half way through a game is an attempt to cheat. The clintons and their supporters want the rules to be changed while the primary election is on and almost at an end? that , I think , is an attempt to cheat. The rules where made before the primary elections began and they are ment to guide the election process.
The Clintons have lost their political credibility. The only legacy left is the fact that Mr Clinton is a former American president.
Hillary should have left the stage while the ovation was high. She kept dancing long after the music stopped.
she should abide by the rules and the decision made by the Rules and Bylaws Committee regarding Michigan and Florida . An attempt to take her case to the convention is a waste of time and can be seen as sabotaging the efforts of the Democratic party towards winning the presidential elections in November. And that will further damage her relationship with a lot of party members.

Michael Danahy   May 31st, 2008 10:44 pm ET

The supporters of Senator Clinton need to face the reality that she was not the country's choice for the Presidency and stop with the "hissy-fits."
And if that sounds like an anti-feminist statement, I have supported women's rights my whole life. Not false "gender bashing." Ms. Clinton, time to send the pants suits to the cleaners and take a nice long vacation. The Clinton legacy has been severly damaged. President Clinton has simply become a parody of himself. And that's very sad.
Obama '08. Change is in the air. YES WE CAN!

denise   May 31st, 2008 10:43 pm ET

I just think the Democratic Party is an absolute mess right now. I cannot believe that the party went back on its word to punish Florida and Michigan for violating the rules. The voters in both states were deceived into thinking that their votes would not count; therefore, many of them chose not to participate in the election process. I am disappointed that delegates from those states were allowed. I am pretty confident that I will not be a registered democrat by the end of the year. The politics of this party are damaging right now. I just don't believe what I am seeing and hearing and will most likely NOT participate in the presidential election.

- Signed,
Disgruntled Democrat

Words of Caution   May 31st, 2008 10:43 pm ET

Excellent job by the Florida Democratic Party, Obama and the Rules Committee!
Now I wait for the other shoe...and there will be one...guaranteed. I suspect it will be on the issue of penalties for "campaigning".
I just hope that the vocal 10% of Democratic women who want HIllary decide to either think about their country or get to heck out of the Democratic Party and join the Hillary Clinton Party! Just remember gals, the Republican men loathe your heroine and the women despise her just as much!

Bill PA   May 31st, 2008 10:38 pm ET

What a committee...vote Republican

stella   May 31st, 2008 10:38 pm ET

Senator Clinton said that "the people of Michigan must be heard!". The Michigan Democratic Party was heard today. They, not the DNC, not Senator Obama but the democratic people of Michigan made their voices heard and asked for the 69/59 split. Now...does she want their voices to be heard or her wishes for them to be heard? Can she now tell the Michigan voters what they want. The Michigan Dem's told the people to vote uncommitted since Obama and Edwards were not on the ballot. They even told them that their write in votes would not count ,about 30,000. They used logic to know that those who wrote in were not voting for Senator Clinton, otherwise they would have voted normally. Edwards gave his support to Obama. The logical way to come to a compromise was exactly what the Michigan Dems did...and I say again ...THEY DID! They wanted this so Hillary should be glad that the people got what THEY WANTED...OF THE PEOPLE , BY THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE! The Clinton supporters are dead wrong if they wanted something different. Both Florida and Michigan put what they would accept on the table...since the rule said 50% , they both got just that! It is fair since the other states played by the rules! If Michigan is happy, Clinton should be happy!

NORA, FLORIDA   May 31st, 2008 10:38 pm ET

Oh oh. I'm waiting for the hit dogs to began hollering. Question to the lame brains. If the speed limit is 45 and you are doing 65 and get pulled over by an officer, is he wrong for giving you a ticket? ........ No because you broke the law.

Why is Hillary supporters still complaining well after all of the delegates will get seated but not have a full vote. I don't get it. If you get that ticket, you best to believe you will pay for it or have your license suspended. The law is the law just like the rules are the rules

lol   May 31st, 2008 10:36 pm ET

howar dean, and nancy pelosi, pushed obama down our throats. howard dean should step down he created this mess. take it to the convention hillary. after that if your still not the nominee, run independent. take your over 17 million votes with you, and let dean and pelosi unite whats left of the democratic party.

Ab-TX   May 31st, 2008 10:34 pm ET

Hillary then............Obama now!!!
Let's us united and we will win in November, where the world will respect us again !!!

Lynn in NM   May 31st, 2008 10:32 pm ET

Soooo, you can break the rules and still be counted. That's the Dems for you! Or should I say the Clintons. The delegates should not have been counted at all, regardless of who wanted it. They knew the rules before they decided to change the dates of the primaries. If the people of the state don't like it, then they should get on the state Democratic party and put their two cents in. Thank God this election is almost over!

Frances   May 31st, 2008 10:32 pm ET

OK both MI and FL get all their votes counted but by only one half. I don't think they deserve any. Zero is what they should have gotten because they broke the rules. It's plain and simple. There are those who argued that the Republican leaders of Florida caused the problem but did anyone stop to think that the people of Florida voted to put the Repulicans in office. They had their say alright and they had their vote so why should the nomination process suffer because they chose the wrong leaders?

However, as a democrat I think we need to move on from this problem and concentrate on gettting back the White House in the fall. The DNC did a compromising thing by giving FL and MI a voice so everyone should be content. Let's be fair about it.

Hillary Clinton needs to stop dividing the party with her obvious sense of entitlement to the nomination. Now that the month of June is upon us, let's see if she will be graceful enough to give up. Remember her argument a week ago about stressing that her husband did not win the nomination until June and I shall not mention her other argument because it was pretty offensive? Now let's all watch her come out with more arguments about why this election should go until the convention. Of course, this won't surface until she loses the protest about the DNC decision and lose the mythical popular vote argument.

Oh yes, the popular vote Ms Hillary keeps talking about. I only wonder why would any delegate think that just because she won a particular state in the primary, she would win that same state in the general election. Look at history superdelegates. There were many times when a person won a state in a primary, they didn't win it in the general election. Hence, Hillary's primary wins aren't a given in the fall. They just aren't. The delegate total is what you, as a superdelegate, shoud consider as most reflective of the will of the people and Obama has a majority of those.

I was so proud that the DNC made people aware that there were many people who believed that their votes wouldn't count so they didn't go to the polls. So is it reflective of the will of the people that didn't go to the polls? No because there are 4 million registered democratic voters in FL yet only 1 million plus showed up to vote. That 's not the will of the people, just a few of them.

I think America, except for the few remaining Hillary supporters, are tired of her and her insistence on changing rules only because changing them would benefit her. And only her.

We as Americans are smarter then that Ms Hillary. Hence, Obama will get the nomination, soon

Garry J   May 31st, 2008 10:32 pm ET

Half punishment !. Hillary will get a half laugh !! I think she would drag it as much as possible and give Mc Cain 4 yearsand the next four years for her.

MacMo   May 31st, 2008 10:31 pm ET

It wasnt the best decision to my personal judgement but I think it was the best thing to do under the circumstances. I believe since both campaigns agreed to the earlier decision to strip the 2 recalcitrant states for their full delegations, they should have stood their grounds. By cowtowing to Clinton's demands amount to dereliction of responsibilities and authority.

fredi   May 31st, 2008 10:30 pm ET

Let's not forget that Florida was pretty much a tie between Clinton (50%) and Obama+Edwards (33+14=47%) – so what's all that Clinton whining about? Even if you seat all the delegates 100%, Hillary gains 6 delegates – much ado about nothing.
The DNC ruling – if anything – favors Clinton.

Maggie   May 31st, 2008 10:28 pm ET

I have watched this issue carefully and feel that a correct and just decision was made for all. Am glad Fla and MI will both be seated fully at Convention albeit with only 1/2 votes. Hope before 2012 these kinds of problems will be nipped in the bud and we don't go through this again. Moving the goalposts at the finish line is just not right.

Nwanekezi Ntomchukwu tony.   May 31st, 2008 10:26 pm ET

Decisions or laws made by any democratic party,should be seated upon without any compromise.Moreover the democrats authourities,
should know that once laws are enacted covers all without any exceptional case.
If Hillary were to be Obama in this primaries, I believe that she will
oppose if Obama calls for sitting of the deligates of Florida and Michigan.Knowing fully well that they broke the law.
Ntom,
(AICHI-KEN, JAPAN)

Pam   May 31st, 2008 10:25 pm ET

I am really glad that FL will be represented at the convention.

I sure hope they can do something about the Republican legislature in upcoming elections so that they cannot pull this again.

Obedience is better than Sacrifice   May 31st, 2008 10:24 pm ET

WHO IS AFRAID OF THE CLINTONS........HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN THE RULES IN SUBSEQUENT ELECTION...... PITIFUL

Jerry Lee   May 31st, 2008 10:23 pm ET

Just watched "Recount" Hillary would STILL be fighting that one.

amtFresno,CA   May 31st, 2008 10:22 pm ET

I am glad it is finally resolved. Obama is still ahead of Clinton & she will not be able to over take his lead. Clinton & Harold Ickes are UNHAPPY. Why should Hillary get her way? She thinks she has the Pres coming to her, just because she has the Clinton name. In spite of her Clinton political machine working for her Barack has beaten her & will be the Nominee. I seriously hope Barack does not put her on the ticket as Veep. She represents to much of an insider, old Washington politics. Obama for Pres. 08

Hal   May 31st, 2008 10:22 pm ET

The Clintonmunistas are trying to STEAL the election. A la George Bush. ONLY a criminal would say that an election with only one candidate on the ballot is a fair election.

The hysterical and racist Clintonites need to form a third party for the undereducated and move to Puerto Rico.

Terry in Fl   May 31st, 2008 10:21 pm ET

I'm a Florida voter, now I feel like half a voter. Should Hillary not prevail, my half vote goes to McCain. WAIT! If I vote Mccain then I am a WHOLE voter again! NO OBAMA!

Patriot Patrick of Houston   May 31st, 2008 10:20 pm ET

Has Hilary thought about the fact that as the first woman running for President she is leaving a bad taste in our mouths for any woman running for office? Does she want little girls of America growing believing that to succeed she must lie, cheat, attact unfairly, and then be a poor loser?

DEBRA GA   May 31st, 2008 10:20 pm ET

I would just like to know if Donna Brazile if going to keep her word and quit the dnc she said she would if the super delegates had to decide the nominee i really hope she dose she is not for the people anyway she is for obama like over half that committee was i think they should all quit but they all have been bought off by obama he is trying to do Hillary the way he did those other people in Chicago who was running against him for his sen sit he found a way to get all of them taken off the ballot so he was the only one left running that's how he won and now hes got his lawyers and camp people trying to do the same thing to Hillary while he sets back and watch and tries to look innocent but we know don't we obama

Kathy in Winchester, CA.   May 31st, 2008 10:20 pm ET

It''s a sad day for almost 1.5 million voters....1/2 vote per delegate, what a joke...It really does not make a difference...My vote will now go to John McCain...Maybe the democrates can get their act together before the next election....I have an idea...whoever gets the most votes in the primary, gets the delegates...What a bright idea...

Judy T   May 31st, 2008 10:19 pm ET

I am a died in the wool Democrat from Michigan. I love Michigan for many reasons including the wonderful people who live here. However, I feel that Michigan and Florida should not have been seated at all. They blew it when they decided to make their own rules. Governor Granholm was very wrong in allowing an early primary. She knew she was wrong and did it anyway. She and the Democrats of my state should be ashamed of themselves for causing Michigan to be one of the problems in this race. But they did it and I do not think these 2 states should be allowed to participate. Even small children learn the rules! You mess up – you pay the consequences! Sorry, I do not agree with today's decision to count Michigan and Florida in any way. Bad decision on the part of grown ups who are supposed to back the rules.

Unbelievable   May 31st, 2008 10:16 pm ET

I believe Clinton received more than she deserved. She can't agree before the voting process start that Michigan and Florida wouldn't count and now that she is losing she want to count the votes. Such a hypocrite.

She keep on talking about how she would have the popular vote but in case she hasn't realize that the popular vote doesn't win the elections it is the delegate count–that is what cause Gore to lose. Bush had more delegates.

Obama has proven that he knows the delegate game and Clinton hasn't but as a Democrat I'm glad this process is over now it is time to turn our focus on the Repulicans who have not served our country for the last eight years.

Dana   May 31st, 2008 10:12 pm ET

They are all nuts

Jean   May 31st, 2008 10:11 pm ET

I believe that Harry Ickes behavior during the final Michigan discussion was downright disrespectful to the Committee and tells us a great deal about the mindset of Hillary's people. The very idea that they would reject a compromise developed by the State Democratic Party of Michigan, many of whom are Clinton supporters, tells me that they will stop at nothing to muddy the Party once they know that it is completely impossible to win. I don't believe the Clinton machine will give up, even if it costs the Democratic Party the general election.

Mike   May 31st, 2008 10:10 pm ET

this is wrong!

i knew this would happen, the DNC give the cold shoulder to voters.

Kelly   May 31st, 2008 10:09 pm ET

It is time to move on. We can beat McCain if we come together behind the legitimate nominee, when the rpimaries conclude on tuesday.

Frank Fornah   May 31st, 2008 10:08 pm ET

The DNC must be very seriously pathurbed by the lack of integrity in the Democratic Party. By rewarding Senator Clinton for Michigan and Florida in violation of the DNC rules,justifies the RNC consideration about the Democrat Party. If she become the next president would one expect Senator Clinton to respect the American constitution , or she will just be another G W Bush to dictate and run this country by convenienvce regardless of what the constitution stipulates.

Shame on you DNC, for allowing the Clintons to dictate their way in the Party.

Anwar   May 31st, 2008 10:08 pm ET

DNC is stupid how Obama can get Michogan delegates when he was not on the ballot, we will not vote for Obama in GE, Mr experience JOHN McCAIN, OLD IS GOLD.

Natalia   May 31st, 2008 10:06 pm ET

Now is the time Hillary for you to abandon the Democratic party and go on as an Independent! Heaven knows that the DNC has already abandoned you! With the support you have won throughout the primary process, it should be apparent that you, more than anyone before, would be the one to make the run for the White House as an Independent; you have carried the majority ot the major states that would give you the most electoral votes. Go for it Hillary, don't let them jerk you around anymore. Now is the time for an INDEPENDENT. You will win! HILLARY FOR (INDEPENDENT) PRESIDENT.

M.C.   May 31st, 2008 10:05 pm ET

Here is my thought-why would any delegate from Michigan or Florida pledge to Obama when he tried to throw them out?? He tried to disregard them. All of these delegates should immediately pledge to HILLARY!!!

Karen Grand Prairie, TX   May 31st, 2008 10:02 pm ET

Well, thank goodness, somebody finally made a sane decision. It is unfortunate that this all had to happen at all. My unanswered question is that just because the Republicans moved up their primary, why did the Democrats have to do the same? Could they have had a separate primary. Why were the Dems bound by what the Republicants did knowing it would cause an eventual problem?

Well, I guess we can move forward now and let this primary season go down as one of the best but worst in the history of the Democratic Party. I am going to become an Independent after Nov. 2008.

shay   May 31st, 2008 10:01 pm ET

It appears to me that HRC got exactly what she wanted. Animosity within the Democratic Party. There is no way she could ever convince me that there is nothing that she would not do to be president. If she is not the nominee she will do everything in her power to destroy the one that is selected to be the nominee.

Cathy in MD   May 31st, 2008 10:01 pm ET

Fair decision. I think Harold Ickes is a sad, troubled man. The Clinton supporters in the crowd behaved rudely, as I expected they would.

Bit   May 31st, 2008 10:01 pm ET

That was the best compromise under the circumstances.

Now can we move on?

MANDY, California   May 31st, 2008 10:00 pm ET

Well, that is fair. They did have to pay a penalty as agreed early int eh electorial season.

Mary Kansas City, Missouri   May 31st, 2008 9:57 pm ET

Finally. Now we can get on with Obama's nomination. The Clinton's need to pack it away, it's over, and this time the lady in the pantsuit can keep her mouth closed. The rightful nominee will emerge soon."YES WE CAN". OBAMA 08

Paul   May 31st, 2008 9:56 pm ET

DNC shows that every vote does not count.
Party elites will tell the common people who they will vote for!
And they will do as told!

ln   May 31st, 2008 9:54 pm ET

Anyone could have seen the writing on the wall. DNC it was about time to step up! Robert Wexler made a clear case. However, I felt the DNC had already made up their minds and were just waiting on the different representatives’s input.

The following step needs to be the super-delegates. What in the world are they waiting for? There is no time left for Obama to get a good grip on his strategy for the race against the republicans.

Now let see what else are the Clinton’s going to come up with.
Right at this moment many of the Clinton crews and ms Clinton are livid and seeing red. I wished i was a fly on the wall to see the faces.

Now we have no more blogs about who will win Florida or Michigan.
But watch out for Harold Ickes statement about the credentials committee, because Ms Clinton wants this comes Hell or high water.
That’s one evil Moma.

Rose   May 31st, 2008 9:54 pm ET

I think the committee did their job well., after all they did break the rules and should have known there would be consequences.

Bill - Charlotte   May 31st, 2008 9:51 pm ET

Take a good look at "Ickie." If this is the way they react to not getting their way, do we really want this in the White House? This is what you get with the Clintons.... divisiveness

Won't they please just go away before they destroy the Democrat's chances for this fall?

Lucas, Nashville TN   May 31st, 2008 9:50 pm ET

Okay, okay. We're still winning. Moving along.

YES WE CAN!

sacto joe   May 31st, 2008 9:49 pm ET

It's over. Sanity has prevailed. All aboard the Good Ship Democracy!

MD Democrat   May 31st, 2008 9:49 pm ET

Most of DNC have become just as bad as the republican party with their backroom deals and the forcing thier will and not the people. This new era of corruption within the voting system gets worse as time goes on. You'd think that after the injustice in the Gore vs Bush election they would stand against this kind of corruption. It is hard to tell the difference between the two parties. That is why I am seriously considering goin independent.

They are talking unity in the party but fail two realize that the anger that they have created with this kind of nonsense has driven a wedge right down the middle of the party. Hillary isn't dividing the party, it is many of the DNC big heads and their so called uniter Obama. People forget that the current leader promised to bring the country together too.

A.M. Saqib   May 31st, 2008 9:49 pm ET

It is about time that we should settle all hot temper attitude on a side; and let's join our hands together to work together to win the election in November.

Obama will be the greatest president and history will see that happen. Hillary Clinton has been a remarkable candidate, and we should and we do admire her tenacity during the compaign; with salute to her for her dedication, we extend our hand of cooperation and will to work together with Clinton supporters to make sure that we make sure that in November 'Obama' becomes the president of United States.

A.M. Saqib
Houston, Texas

Mark Palmer   May 31st, 2008 9:48 pm ET

From the math it appears baring a miracle Senator Clinton has no chance of gaining the nomination. The talk of Hillary Clinton willingness to accept the VP slot is without merit. Her past behavior and pronouncements clearly suggest she has no regard for Senator Obama. Why would Senator Obama select someone that considers him an Elitist, someone who is guilty of DISRESPECT (Boy meet in Ohio for a debate)REDICULE(Angels will come down wave a wand and change will occur)Someone who has belittled him(John McCain and I have past the Commadering Chief threshold and my opponent has a speech)

If Senator Obama rewards Senator Clinton's bad behavior with the VP spot, his judgement will be seriuosly questioned.

All American   May 31st, 2008 9:48 pm ET

I don't understand the Democrate party. Flordia is under the thumb of the republicans and still the democrats punish them for voting early. Flordia tried everything within the party rules to revote. Obama fought every step of the way to prevent it,knowing that he couldn't win. Still the party punishes Flordia and Obama almost gets the same amount of delegates, Hillary did ,when she beat him three to one.

Then comes Michigan .They get seated but with half votes. Giving Obama some of Hillarys delegates and all of the undecited. All this is in direct violation of party rules. Right after they give all these speeches about following the rules to keep order. Who are they kidding.

Again Hillary got railroaded with a illeagel act. Bad enough she had to fight the media for fair play and all the sexest remarks, now the Democrates put the screws to her. And they call this a democracy.

Well, I don't know about Flordia but I intend to vote and campaign for McCain and Don't be suprised if Michigan votes republican in November. If this is what the democrates think of us. then they deserve what we give them. And don't tell me about party unity . The party hasn't demostrated fair play. Go McCain ! Michigan is here for you.

skip1955   May 31st, 2008 9:47 pm ET

Clinton is such a liar and cheat!

Mark Palmer   May 31st, 2008 9:45 pm ET

From the math it appears baring a miracle Senator Clinton has no chance of gaining the nomination. The talk of Hillary Clinton willingness to accept the VP slot is without merit. Her past behavior and pronouncements clearly suggest she ha noregard fo Senator Obama. Why would Senator Obama select someone that considers him an Elitist, someone who is guilty of DISRESPECT (Boy meet in Ohio for a debate)REDICULE(Angels will come down wave a wand and change will occur)Someone who has belittled him(John McCain and I has past the Commadering Chief threshold and my opponent has a speech)

If Senator Obama rewards Senator Clinton's bad behavior with the VP spot, his judgement will be seriuosly questioned.

Rauji kibet   May 31st, 2008 9:45 pm ET

let her go to denver and lets see what she will achieve there,she will go in history as a person who behaved like a baby who cried for everything to win

c   May 31st, 2008 9:42 pm ET

mccain is reflection of another bush administration..he talks of self-proclaimed differences between bush and himself but his action is the opposite..if you want more of bush like president vote mccain..he wish to stick with the old ways and is not of change...the old politiicans cannot accept change because its too inconvenient for them..they have the notion that sitting down with hostile leaders is crazy and its beacuse of this old weak leadership the world is where it is today..go barack 08

c   May 31st, 2008 9:41 pm ET

mccain is reflection of another bush administration..he talks of self-proclaimed differences between bush and himself but his action is the opposite..if you want more of bush like president vote mccain..he wish to stick with the old ways and is not of change...the old politiicans cannot accept change because its too inconvenient for them..they have the notion that sitting down with hostile leaders is crazy and its beacuse of this old weak leadership the world is where it is today..go barack 08

Kim   May 31st, 2008 9:41 pm ET

I would have liked for Michigan, as an independant leaning towards Obama, to have NOT COUNTED the Uncommited.

I personally think that legally you can't give those uncommitted votes to Barack.

However

I would have liked Hillary to have recieved her 50 percent and Barack none (he does have the majority and can handle it) however I would have stripped Hillary from saying that she recieved the popular vote
from Michigan. And in return Hillary should have agreed to step down wedsday morning.

I think for the "democratic" party this would have united, now what do you have going into Denver?

AS to Florida that works

Yolanda Diaz   May 31st, 2008 9:40 pm ET

Shame to all of you half a vote Shame

iclayton   May 31st, 2008 9:40 pm ET

THE CLINTONS AND THEIR SUPPORTER ARE A BUNCH OF BRATS
SCREAMING AND ACTING LIKE 2 YEAR OLDS. THEY WANT THEIR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO. ALL THIS TIME ALL SHE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WAS THAT SHE WANTED EVERY VOTE TO COUNT. NOW THEY HAVE BEEN COUNTED (HALF WAY). BUT IT IS BETTER THAN NONE (ZERO). FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN BOTH KNEW THE RULES BEFORE SETTING THE DATE FOR THE PRIMARY.......(WANTING TO BE THE ONE TO ELECTED THE PRESIDENT) THAT'S A JOKE...NOW
IT IS MONTANA AND SOUTH DAKOTA TO MAKE THAT CHOICE NOW.
THE LAST 2 PRIMARY ON JUNE 3, 2008. EVEN THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA MADE A CHOICE....... THANK FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN......SO COUNT YOUR BLESSINGS THAT 1/2 OF YOUR DELEGATES WILL COUNT.....AND NEXT TIME STICK TO THE RULES OR GET PREMISSION BEFORE CHANGING ANYTHING.

Gnomepark   May 31st, 2008 9:40 pm ET

Fair.....now back to our regular scheduled programming

L MIAMI FLORIDA   May 31st, 2008 9:40 pm ET

OK! WE FLORIDIANS WILL GIVE NADA, NOTHING, ZERO, MIERDA

NO FREAKIN VOTES !

NO HILLARY IN THE TICKET IN NOVEMBER AND WE WILL BE STAYING HOME !

NO TO OBAMA

EONUGH !

Low   May 31st, 2008 9:39 pm ET

Well there you have it

Obama 08

Concerned Canadian   May 31st, 2008 9:39 pm ET

The DNC robbed Hillary Clinton and the American voting public their right to democracy. This fight will go to Denver. !!

Tubby The Tuba   May 31st, 2008 9:38 pm ET

Those would be Clintons people! The ones that were rude and discourteous. Obama asked his supporters to NOT protest. This speaks volumes about his presidential qualities. What a cool dude.

Sandee   May 31st, 2008 9:35 pm ET

My hat is off to them for trying to make it as fair as they possibly could. It was especially interesting to see which members were trying to unify the party and which didn't really care about the party, just their own candidate

DCtrain   May 31st, 2008 9:34 pm ET

It's over now. The best thing for the country and the party is unity.

the Clinton.National.Network should update the delegate count now.

The Lady   May 31st, 2008 9:32 pm ET

Great job DNC,

LeRoy Mace   May 31st, 2008 9:32 pm ET

This is fair considering that Clinton signed the agreement not to campaign in Florida and Mich. and the rules state that the delegates should be completely stripped. Clinton cannot make up her own rules and she is lucky to have gotten any delegates. It was not democratic to break the rules to begin with.

edgar, duluth,georgia   May 31st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

is everybody ready for 4 more years (at least) of republican fiasco???

Karen Neal   May 31st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

This decision shows that the Democratic Party is in trouble. They are not following their own rules.....a divided will NOT stand

Bridgett   May 31st, 2008 9:30 pm ET

The beauty of the Democratic process in motion was fair and concise.
In each race the moral creed should include playing on equal grounds. The Clinton legacy will go down in history for the comfortable economic growth of the 90's but after President Clinton lead a promising nation he forfeited the position of favor when he signed the free world trade agreement.
Those jobs which were the backbone of the American economy were given permission to find cheaper labor in other third world countries. After that we see dear Bill doing commericals with the first President George Bush and we digest that (the American People) along with the fact that you were almost caught with your pants down in a scandal.
What was once a first lady who was endeared by many became a "I do and say whatever I have to just to get the nomination!."
The decision made for a fair fight today, one where Hillary did not get her way in an election process she once upheld and then condemned because they didn't count when it worked to her advantage.
Mrs. Clinton should be admired for taking us through the (most) interesting process of politics. The first woman to fight for the nomination so diligently but she should concede that it is meant for a Anglo Saxon/African American man will become president this time.
We as a nation are saying we understand that it is not about the color of our skin but the content of our character.
That our decision this year will determine more than our preference but our purpose and intention to unify as "We the People," ones that finally understand that divide we fall but togetherness brings about a change.
God bless American

Habib Captan   May 31st, 2008 9:29 pm ET

I wonder how hard Hillary would she be willing to fight if Obama has won Florida and Michigan?
Do they really think she cares about them if she had lost the two primaries?
I don't think so.

Donna   May 31st, 2008 9:28 pm ET

I'm disappointed that Hillary didn't get all of Florida. It's too bad. I wonder why the DNC is so against Hillary?

Eric   May 31st, 2008 9:28 pm ET

If Hillary takes this issue any further, it will be clearly obvious that it is strictly for personal gain and not in the best interest of the party. The party did what it could in the best interest of both parties, and to keep this dead process going is useless.

Dan (TX)   May 31st, 2008 9:27 pm ET

Hey FL voters, do you think you can get it right in 2012 or do you enjoy being the laughing stock of the nation when it comes to elections?

It's a "2 for 1" special on Democratic voters in FL and MI! :)

Independent   May 31st, 2008 9:26 pm ET

In turn, Huffman scolded the jeers as immature. And the quote is... Oh Wait. CNN doesn't want to report her exact words because it was not divisive enough!

James Rick   May 31st, 2008 9:25 pm ET

It is so sad that Hillary will keep dividing her party with this. She wants the rules of the game changed in her favor because she is loosing. She did not run a good campaign and lets be honest with ourselves. I am a clinton supporter, however, my concious will not let me do wrong knowing what she is fighting for is not hers. What example are we going to teach the younger generations? Steal and cheat?

Chamorrita60   May 31st, 2008 9:24 pm ET

Why is this so surprising? Is this truly about Clinton's personal ambition or about WHAT'S BEST FOR THIS COUNTRY?

Because Sen. Clinton is NOT what's BEST for this country. Bottom line.

I think the Committee made that fact very clear today. Clinton supporters created such a display during the sessions that it was downright disrespectful. They may have done MORE damage than good.

I think Mr. Ickes may have also caused more damage to any support Sen. Clinton may have had tonight with his insults and accusations. He did NOT help his candidate at all, he only helped to seal her fate.

Disappointed   May 31st, 2008 9:23 pm ET

So if you don't follow rules, you get to be a decider. What a great way to kick off a loss for the Democratic party.

Ileana   May 31st, 2008 9:23 pm ET

I think it was a fair decision. The DNC had rules they were not followed.

change 1   May 31st, 2008 9:21 pm ET

HAROLD ICKLES JUST SHOWED THE WHOLE WORLD HOW BITTER HE AND THE CLINTONS ARE. USING DESPICABLE LANGUAGE ON NATIONAL T.V WAS A SIGN OF DESPERATION. THE CLINTONS NEED TO GO AWAY. THEY ARE CORRUPT

jamil   May 31st, 2008 9:21 pm ET

We say a Big THANK YOU to Hillary for causing this problem

carrie,obama baby   May 31st, 2008 9:20 pm ET

*yawn*
who cares?
obama is the next president

Timothyt   May 31st, 2008 9:19 pm ET

Great Job DNC! Go Florida! Go Obama!

Cindy in California   May 31st, 2008 9:19 pm ET

Job well done, now the Florida and Michigan issue has been settled Can we move on now?

Dave   May 31st, 2008 9:19 pm ET

I saw children at work today at the DNC meeting . It is no wonder our children behave as they do sometimes. Whatever happened to reasonable ADULTS ! sitting down and finding common ground with our differences in a respectable manner. As adults (age wise only) we should be ashamed.

CD   May 31st, 2008 9:18 pm ET

Sen Clinton will demonstrate to the rest of the country that she will do anything for power. Her greatest fear is that Obama will win, that would make her too old (if he is reelected). The Clinton's didn't support Gore or Kerry, and theyt surely won't support Obama.

Screw Hitlery   May 31st, 2008 9:15 pm ET

This will unfortunately get Hitlery more ammo to make her entitlement case that she should be the nominee instead of Obama. The inevitable is still going to happen and Hitlery will beat both Obama and then McCain. Obama and McCain are both doomed and ill-fated to lose.

ChicoSez   May 31st, 2008 9:14 pm ET

I was too young to go to Chicago in '68 but I'll be in
denver in 2008. If anybody thinks that that "gracious" gesture on the part of Wexler/Obama made anybody feel better, you've been drinking too much kool-aid. The dem elites have made a mockery of the process and have lost my support. I would show up and work in the off year elections. Will the Obama kids do that? Will they donate time and money to candidates other than Obama? Better hope so.
Anybody but Obama.

Patrick, Jacksonville FLORIDA!!!   May 31st, 2008 9:13 pm ET

Democrates are idiots! Here they have a chance to stick to the Republicans for changing the Primary date in Florida, and instead they stick it to Florida voters. Does anyone remember 2000????

They all say they had to follow the rules. Then how do they give Michigan uncommitted votes (Edwards, Richardson's, Biden, Dodd's, and yes Obama's) ALL TO OBAMA????? I will tell you, in a backroom deal with a majority of OBAMA SUPPORTERS ON THE RULES COMMITTEE. They just don't want to learn, I guess 4 more years of a Republican President might kick them in the pants, and this is coming from a Lou Dobb's independent Clinton Supporter. IDIOTS.

Timber   May 31st, 2008 9:13 pm ET

This is outrageous. I cannot say how disgusted I am at this decision. I can no longer be a democrat, I am switching to independent or republican. HOW can you penalize the FL voters when EVERYONE was on the ballot, NOBODY campaigned there and the primary was moved up by REPUBLICAN legislatures????!!! I am a young man and I will never forget or forgive this of the democratic party.

Eddie P. rochester ny   May 31st, 2008 9:13 pm ET

absolutely discusting. Let's see how discusting the superdelegates get now. Why is the democratic party so set on loosing the general election. 30 people making a decision for millions of people!!! not good. Of the thirty people on the committee. Only two had the right solution. One African American . One white.

Richard Maxson   May 31st, 2008 9:12 pm ET

Play by the rules or go find your own sand-box!

ben   May 31st, 2008 9:12 pm ET

Im still tring to find out how hillary gets away with stealing votes from a place where Barack wasnt even on the ballot how can she have any argument about being fare am i missing something some one please tell me if its something im just not understanding. I really want to understand this process

Absolutely fed up   May 31st, 2008 9:12 pm ET

But Ickes said Ms. Clinton still wants to bring it to the convention it seems.
Here she goes — Ms. superego Clinton. Ultimately, she does not care about the party or the country, she cares about HERSELF. There is only one way Hillary can win — if delegates disregard the votes of their constituents, the majority of pledged delegates, and brake all the rules of democracy by giving the nomination to Hillary Clinton.

Ms. Clinton wants all the votes counted — except the votes that were not for her. She changes the rules to her convenience only, for her ego only.

This is not the morality, behavior, and value of a potential president

DAN -VA   May 31st, 2008 9:12 pm ET

VOTING FOR MCCAIN...GO JOHN MCCAIN..NEVER OBAMA AND HIS POSSIBLE VP REV WRIGHT..

Gene   May 31st, 2008 9:11 pm ET

I'm truly surprised by the patience of the democratic committee. The people in the audience would not shut up after being many times to keep it down so that the committee could do their jobs. If I was the committee... I would've kicked them out after 5 minutes.

That's the difference between Obama and Hillary. Obama tells his people to leave them alone so that they could do their jobs. Hillary tells her people to go and protest and raise a stink. It's like an adult running against a high school drama queen.

J   May 31st, 2008 9:11 pm ET

The Florida and Michigan state legislatures should be taken to task for moving their primaries to an earlier date. If they had simply followed the rules, their would have been no need for a compromise on how each state's delegates would be seated. Of course, if Hillary Clinton had not flip flopped on her original agreement with the DNC that the votes would not count and the delegates would be not be seated, the race for the Democratic nomination would have been over by now, and the Democrats would now be focusing on John McCain – an incredibly weak Republican candidate. All in all, I'm glad this nonsense with Florida and Michigan is now over.

Let's go Obama.

Amy S   May 31st, 2008 9:10 pm ET

I would like to know how the final numbers shake out after Tuesday but I remain optimistic that Barack Obama will capture the nomination in the end. I am glad that Obama was awarded delegates from both Michigan in Florida and think it would have been completely unfair if Hillary Clinton would have received all the delegates at stake. Hillary DID NOT win Michigan and Florida, she broke the rules by putting her name on the ballot after she agreed not to. Barack Obama followed the rules and kept his word- he should not be penalized for this. Another point I would like to make is that when Bill Clinton was running in the Democratic primary in 1992, I did not have a say in deciding he would be the nominee because I live(d) in Kansas and the primary in my state occurred long after Clinton had already won the nomination. This is the first year I felt my vote in the Kansas Caucus (Kansas switched to a caucus this year) mattered because it occurred on Super Tuesday.

JohnLee   May 31st, 2008 9:09 pm ET

Think this is more than fair. When I went to vote, I knew my vote wouldn't probably count but I wanted to vote for John Edwards and so I did. If Hillary would do the right thing, this wouldn't have had to be such a spectacle today but she's only in this race for one thing – power!

Nancy for Obama   May 31st, 2008 9:08 pm ET

I cannot believe the Clitons are they serious they are really setting themselves up for disappointment.It is really sad somebody needs to tell them it's over and there is nowhere else to go.

Michael   May 31st, 2008 9:06 pm ET

It is done, now can we come together as a party, rally behind the nominee and win the White House. I hope and pray Hillary Clinton will see that fighting this all the way to the convention will do nothing but further divide the party and hand John McCain the White House. We as Democrats must learn from this, try to make it better so we don't go thru this in four years, unite and put a democrat in the White House. Let us stop with the personal attacks on the candidates, focus on the issues between the Democrats and Republicans and put a Democrat in the White House.

I will agree this was not a perfect solution but we live in an imperfect world so it is unrealistic to expect a perfect solution. I am not for Clinton or Obama, I am for a Democrat, this is about us as a party not Clinton or Obama. Voting for McCain simply out of anger does not solve any problems, it only proves to the Republicans right in that we cannot come together for a common cause as a party. I ask all posters to this blog to stand with me when I say, let us now unite behind whoever the nominee will be and win the White House. Let us not descend into feelings of anger, division and retaliation, let us rise up, say with pride that we are Democrats and win the White House in November.

I pray for unity, I pray for cooler heads to prevail and I pray we can win the White House in November and put either Clinton or Obama in the White House. Anything less and we prove the Republicans right about our party and that is we are divisive and cannot rally behind a common cause.

Louise   May 31st, 2008 9:03 pm ET

Thank You Florida, wish the people in Michigan will follow you

Connie   May 31st, 2008 9:01 pm ET

Unity!

d   May 31st, 2008 9:01 pm ET

Great! The Rules and Bylaws Committee has spoken, Clinton has gotten what she asked for, now it is time for her to pack her bags and go home, NOT TO DENVER! The people have spoken, the pledged delegates have spoken, and the superdelegates have spoken. On all fronts Obama has a an insurmountable lead. It's over Hillary, there is NOTHING more you can ask for, now step aside and support Obama ru for the presidency.

Sean, CA   May 31st, 2008 9:00 pm ET

YES! Get over it hillbots.

Ashlee from Virginia   May 31st, 2008 9:00 pm ET

Considering that they weren't going to be granted any delegates or votes 6 months ago, I would think Hillary and her supporters would be glad with this outcome. I just have one question: If Hillary was sooo opposed to them not counting the votes from Florida and Michigan, then why in the world wouldn't she state this BEFORE the primary season began and she was the frontrunner??? I mean I definately wouldn't think she would SIGN THE AGREEMENT consenting to NOT COUNT THE VOTES! I mean it looks pretty suspicious now how she cares so much for the disenfranchised voters now that she's behind in every category.

Michael from Boston   May 31st, 2008 8:57 pm ET

This is not fair to all those in Florida and Michigan who did not come out to vote because they knew their vote wouldn't count. How can Senator Clinton explain that?

I'm very disappointed in the ruling. They should have been stripped of all their votes. They broke their party's rule. They disenfranchised all those who did not come out to vote because they knew their votes would not count.

Instead they gave Senator Clinton a much bigger portion when she agreed that Florida and Michigan would not be seated.

Appalling!

DeAnn   May 31st, 2008 8:57 pm ET

What... florida decisions was unanimous. Let's move on already..

Yolanda   May 31st, 2008 8:57 pm ET

I am a democrat white latin senior citizen from Florida, who supports Sen. Obama.
From what I have seen today on TV, members of the DNC made the right choice given the circumstances.
It is my humble opinion that Sen.Clinton has demonstrated that she is not Presidential material, She has shown over and over that she has to win no matter what the consequences. It seems to me that she is another Bush from the left.

Towhappy   May 31st, 2008 8:57 pm ET

Well,

if we must go to denver, then so be it! He is the nominee and a floor vote will show just that.

New York   May 31st, 2008 8:56 pm ET

That crowd were like wild animals that respected nothing and no one including HRC reprsentatives.They were a disgrace to themselves, to HRC and to the Democratic Party! This defintely reflected badly on Senator Clinton!

mello doug   May 31st, 2008 8:56 pm ET

Hillary and her supporters have just about made me decide to vote for McCain if Obama does not win. I hate dishonesty and trickery and all of the nasty stuff she is trying to pull. When it comes down to someone who will go out of their way to win at all cost, I for one do not want them in the White House. It would be just more years of GWB.

Sherri   May 31st, 2008 8:55 pm ET

Whats new Florida always gets the shaft!

Th3rdpwr   May 31st, 2008 8:55 pm ET

Hillary supporters, whether or not one believes Obama is "electable" in the GE, he has earned the right, per our system, to give it his best shot. Voters, and pundits, can speculate, but should have no power to preempt a candidate's opportunity especially when dictated by fear and cynicism.

Andre'   May 31st, 2008 8:54 pm ET

Why would you change the rules in the middle of a contest to give the losing opponent a better chance? I'm truly surprised by the democratic parties decision to go against itself, but then again I shouldn't........ Typical party behavior. There is to much disorganization.

Just Plain Tired - St. Louis   May 31st, 2008 8:52 pm ET

The rules are the rules, but I feel sorry for Floridians because they can't catch a break from the tyranny of the Republican controlled state they live in. If the committee had restored their delegates fully, it would have been fair, but against the rules. Somehow though, it still would have been alright for them. Their own party leaders didn't arrogantly and defiantly break the rules like Michigans selfish leaders. Florida has my sympathy, but at least they will be represented.

Mobama   May 31st, 2008 8:52 pm ET

I am glad this is over now. While I agree that all votes should count. Why did it only matter to Clinton, when she fell behind in delegates???? She did sign an agreement like all the other candidates. She went to law school for Chis Sake. You sign an agreement and you stick to it.!!!! This is what really bothers me about her. We should all follow the rules in life. But she wants to change them, when it benefits her. I don't get that!!!!

Clinton supporters please help me understand why people like myself should look past that?

seah   May 31st, 2008 8:52 pm ET

Obama given more by default.

He said he didn't need florida.

Mark   May 31st, 2008 8:51 pm ET

This is my prediction. Clinton will be running as an Independent. I watched the ending of today's DNC debate and all three votes and came away thinking it was a kangaroo court. The had a plan. How could anyone who did not have their name on the ballet win any committed delegates.

Anyway, I still do not know who to vote for, McCain, Obama, Hillary, Nadar or that other new republican who just entered. Guess I will not vote!

Fonzi, an independent.   May 31st, 2008 7:56 pm ET

Electability is determined through votes not through rants and raves.
Enough of the temper tantrums from the Hillary supporters.

Valeriy Simonian   May 31st, 2008 7:56 pm ET

Changing rules at a middle of the game is wrong. That would create more problems for the party. Decision about Florida and Michigan was made already, and now new idea only because of Clinton ....Party rules not have to be in a somebody's favor. If the Committee just could tell: You, people, knew rules already and we will not change them just because you do not like the results.
That I can respect. But now demagogs used priviledge to speak by applying to the voters rights. Voters rights is a right to have fair process. Clinton at beginning agreed do not count votes and now changed her mind. Instead of showing her that is not a right way to be elected, party took risk to start correction own decision. That will impact democrats in a sudden and unexpected way.

Marty Ohio   May 31st, 2008 7:56 pm ET

Watched all day the same people that were crying about a supreme court taking away votes 8 years ago. Watched them do the same thing to the same people.

Ed, Santa Fe, NM   May 31st, 2008 7:54 pm ET

BYE BYE, HILLARY!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

s.b.   May 31st, 2008 7:54 pm ET

Take it to the floor Hill! Democracy means every vote counts, not just the ones you think are convenient. The DNC is up there with Mugabe and Zimbabwe today in its lack of respect for voters.

Jon   May 31st, 2008 7:54 pm ET

So next primary ALL the states will vote early and everyone will be seated with half a vote? Sheesh... if the democrats can't even stick to thier own rules and punishments, how can they be trusted to run the country? Pathetic.

Scott, Charlotte   May 31st, 2008 7:54 pm ET

The obnoxious and disruptive Clinton fans represent their candidate well.
P.S.–You lost again.

fadil from cameroon   May 31st, 2008 7:53 pm ET

what a deception for the clintons but these are the rules and the dnc decision should be respected, we have a lot of respect for bill clinton and family for what they have done for this country (usa) but h clinton s behavior is eroding all this respect and consideration worldwide; she should just accept the inevitable...it is all over. Unless Obama like R Kenndey...

simeon   May 31st, 2008 7:51 pm ET

I like the way Obama is letting his campaign staff and supporters handle the issue of the Florida and Michigan delegates,whilst Hillary Clinton and her supporters want to keep changing the rules.

I am amazed that Clinton and her supporters are still trying to maintain that she can be the nominee and win the general election. Come on, who is she kidding?!..Hillary Clinton with all her baggage, not to mention the flip-flops in her campaign"experience, gas tax, iraq, sexism" is going to unite the nation. Give me a break!!!

Obama all the way..even Rupert Murdoch can see that...

Kathleen M   May 31st, 2008 7:47 pm ET

That wasn't a compromise. That was stealing the votes from Florida. I am so glad Howard Ickes said that Hillary reserves the right to take it to the Convention.

Way to Go, Hillary!!!

Howard Dean, the DNC and now the Obama team will go down in history for stealing an election. Nice going DNC... you just threw the election and gave it to McCain.

Jim, Indiana   May 31st, 2008 7:44 pm ET

Hillary will not accept to be ripped off and neither will voters in Florida! On to the convention!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oscar   May 31st, 2008 7:43 pm ET

i was not suprised by the uproar. the leopard must surely breed its semblance. Clinton and her campaign from the onset had been VERY DEMOCRRATIC.Her temperament, desperation,lies, ulterances and system of campaign had been the best to expect from a democractic president. i am happy for one thing- her presidentiial ambition had shown the type of person she is. the respect of her supporters for the party leaders was a credit to how decent and organize they are. I am only sorry for her daughter whom she has succeeded in ruining her political career. Let her go to Denver. Super delegates, the ball is in your court.

Lourdes   May 31st, 2008 7:43 pm ET

Shameful behavior on the part of Clinton supporters and Mr. Ickes, who used profanity on national television. This is her chief strategist; it should say a lot about how she plans on running the country.

terry   May 31st, 2008 7:37 pm ET

on to Denver, indeed! fight for right at the convention.

I used to be a Democrat   May 31st, 2008 7:37 pm ET

Hillary won Florida. She should get most of the delegates. I hope Floridians send a message to the DNC in November by not electing a Democrat as President.

Cynthia   May 31st, 2008 7:35 pm ET

I'm glad it is finally settled what to do with MI & FL. No voters should feel cheated no matter who they are supporting and the Democratic Party come together behind the Democratic nominee.

rene'   May 31st, 2008 7:34 pm ET

lets get with it

Venus   May 31st, 2008 7:34 pm ET

Ha,ha,ha!

What a great show by Hillary's thugs!

Way to go Obama!

CARMEN   May 31st, 2008 7:34 pm ET

no drama is no obama!!!!!! I rather vote for McCain

Finally   May 31st, 2008 7:32 pm ET

It is about time. The Hillary supporters that were there showed very little respect for the democratic process and thier candidate. Harold Icky (yes I meant icy, as in nasty) and his polictical posturing was disgusting. This was an opportunity to gain party unitiy, but the Hillary camp still wants to divide. It sickens me, because they knew the rules before hand and Hillary agreed publicly and privately to those rules.

Lastly, Rules...Rule!!

Ohioian   May 31st, 2008 7:32 pm ET

it is sad in an election year so bad for the republican party Hillary wont bow out gracefully. Would she have been born a man she would know when it is over; stay down on the ground dont even think about getting back up. YOUR BEAT HILLARY, GO HOME PAY OFF YOUR OWN DEBTS and STAND BY YOUR MAN.

What's up CNN?   May 31st, 2008 7:31 pm ET

Half delegate vote each? Why do caucus state delegates have more weight? The DNC is literally making a FL/MI delegate count for 12% of what a caucus vote counts for.

Randy   May 31st, 2008 7:31 pm ET

Shame on you Harold Ickes. The language and threats you used today, go against the fundamental purpose of these meetings. To provide a fair resolution to the issue of Florida and Michigan. I am beginning to feel that if you do take this to the credentials committee, that there is a sense of entitlement in the Clinton campaign. Your unwillingness to compromise is fundamentally undemocratic. You ignited an audience that stamped the Democratic party as divided, as they shouted and heckled commitee members. This is not democracy. You act like a dictator, threatening any opposition with ultimate destruction. I am ashamed to say that you are still considered part of the Democratic party, after resorting to threats and shear lunacy to make your case. There was no need for such hostile, and ultimately futile language. Please, I beg you, to act like a responsible democrat for once and allow this party to be unified.

obama =supporter==ARKANSAS   May 31st, 2008 7:31 pm ET

IT IS FAIR FOR EVERY ONE AND CLINTON NEEDS TO GIVE IT UP SO WE CAN WIN IN NOV.

Kathy Heckman   May 31st, 2008 7:31 pm ET

I am furious with the ruling for today's committee meeting. Where is our democracy? I will be in Denver to protest these decisions. PLEASE Hilary take this to the Convention! I am tired of women being disregarded in this country and will take up the signs to demonstrate my anger. Today's rulings are total b.s.

TEXAN   May 31st, 2008 7:28 pm ET

GOOD JOB !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Christina   May 31st, 2008 7:28 pm ET

OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA,

OBAMA '08

Hang it up Hillary! It's over!!! And furthermore, get a grip on the stupid idiots that support you. Their behavior in the DNC meeting was absolutely uncalled for! You should be ashamed to support such a people!!!

Take it to Denver and your political career will be ruined...OH, wait...IT ALREADY IS!!!!

lisa   May 31st, 2008 7:27 pm ET

I do not understand why Clinton thinks that she should get all of Michigan and seat all of Florida. If the rule was broken they should not count or have a re-vote or half and half. I feel that as always there is something being fixed in this race. I was a Clinton fan but if she cheats to win the primary I am not sure if I can vote for her. I have always told my children that you have to be fair and do things the right way. Wow! I guess that that does not go for everyone. I have a real problem with people not following rules to win a race. I just want things to be fair and to be able to feel like the everyday people really do make the choice of who runs this country. OH WELL !

HillaCrat-NoBama   May 31st, 2008 7:27 pm ET

GO HILLARY! FIGHT ON! We do not want you to give up! We do not want Obama at the head of the ticket. OBAMA = MCGOVERN. OBAMA = STEVENSON. OBAMA = MONDALE. OBAMA = DUKAKIS. OBAMA = KERRY. OBAMA = HUMPHREY. OBAMA = CARTER. OBAMA = LOSER.

WE WANT HILLARY! WE WANT HILLARY! WE WANT HILLARY!

Greg in Annapolis   May 31st, 2008 7:27 pm ET

Finally! It wasn't an easy task, especially knowing that whatever the decision was, not everyone would be happy. It is a very fair compromise. Now we can move on to the General Election to defeat John McCain!
Obama '08!

Justmy02   May 31st, 2008 7:27 pm ET

Hmm.... Maybe half the Florida Democrat voters should stay home in November. After all, then the Dems will have a full vote. Right?

A view from Canada   May 31st, 2008 7:27 pm ET

Watching the Democrats self destruct. Amazing. Never would have thought they would lose to the Republicans this time around, but I think it is a growing possibility as two things happen:
1) The Democrats eat their own, and
2) Independents and undecideds become increasingly turned off at Democrat gong show.

Steve   May 31st, 2008 7:26 pm ET

My Democratic party took a stand in 2000 and 2004 and said count every vote. Not 1/2 a vote or 1/3 vote, all the vote.

Does that only count when we like the outcome of counting those votes?

So as of tomorrow I will be leaving the Democratic Party, anyone know a party that is not so hypocritical?

Tracy   May 31st, 2008 7:25 pm ET

Hillarious supporters are truly uncivilized. They have disgraced themselves in much the same way as their candidate. Their lack of respect from the process today reflects Hillary's lack of respect for the rules of the party–unless they are slanted in her favor. I have never seen more Americans behavior with this level savagery. They have shown us that Clinton is certainly not deserving of our vote, let alone our respect. If Billary supporters cannot even sit through a democratic process and show respect for their fellow Americans, how can Hillary possibly lead a nation that is increasingly showing that they do not trust her or her fabricated leadership?

Conservative Sam   May 31st, 2008 7:25 pm ET

Sen. Clinton should be ashamed of herself. Oppps!!! I'm sorry, it's the Clinton family – they should be proud of themselves. Challenge it on the floor Sen. Clinton. President Bill Clinton has made so many promises for financial gain to people that Sen. Clinton MUST get in the White House by any means necessary.

Give it to her – Hillary for President. Monica Lewinski for Vice President.

Bill – that's a DREAM ticket!!!

Della   May 31st, 2008 7:24 pm ET

No registered voter should be mad at the DNC. They should be mad at their Secretaries of State. These secretaries put notariety at the will of their citizens rights to vote. It is unfortunate that the leadership of these two states wanted to outshine the states of Iowa and New Hampshire at the cost of the people's vote. With that being said, the entire process needs to be revamped. Democracy means the rule of the people. Forget the delegates, let we the regular everyday people decide who we want to represent and lead our country. Florida and Michigan voters, I encourage you to rethink who has your best interest at heart when voting for Secretary of State.

think about it   May 31st, 2008 7:24 pm ET

While it is true that Hillarly likely would have one both MI and FL anyway, Obama has signifcantly closed the gap on clinton every state he has been able to campaign in. In Ohio he started out 20 points behind, campaigned there and lost by 10 points on election day.

So Obama not being allowed to campaing in FL and Mi means that he lost by a larger margin than he would have had he campaigned, making it unfair for Hillary to demand ALL of the delegates

aware   May 31st, 2008 7:24 pm ET

McCain wins this round!

Many Democrats will not vote for the far left fringe candidate Obama! there will be no Dem unity!

Hillary is the smart choice 2008 and 2012 but the foolish Dems have anointed the fatally flawed candidate. Maybe Hillary should be on the McCain ticket. The Democrats have unraveled. :(

M.C.   May 31st, 2008 7:24 pm ET

We shall see. Maybe we should go to Denver. If Hillary is not the nominee, MILLIONS of her supporters will vote for McCain. McCain is an honorable man and a Centrist. HILLARY FIRST!!!!

WD   May 31st, 2008 7:24 pm ET

HELLO!, Of course they will seat the delegates. this is the party that does everything they can to get around the law, tradition and propriety.

The difference:

Liberals – the ends justifies the means

Conservative – the means is the only way to a just end.

Did anyone really think this would not happen after the RFK comment by Hillary. Can anyone say Vince Foster?

TJ   May 31st, 2008 7:24 pm ET

The behavior of Clinton supporters during the meeting was ridiculous! They are lucky any of the delegates got seated. IT"S OVER! People are sick of this race and in the meantime, John McCain is coasting along on Easy Street.

Chris   May 31st, 2008 7:24 pm ET

The DNC has repeatedly said on one hand that it did not wish to penalize the voters of Florida and Michigan for the actions of their party leaders, while on the other hand doing just that. Fairness dictates that those breaking the rules be punished, yet I have not heard any voices calling for punishment of those responsible. As for "trying to unify the party," I will only comment by saying, if you do not want all of my vote cast in January, you will have NONE of it in November.

Matt   May 31st, 2008 7:24 pm ET

Hillary supporters should be grateful they are getting any vote at all. They are not in their place to be complaining over this outcome. For Hillary to take it to the convention, it is in her power to be labeled as someone who is not only desperate, but encourages breaking rules. If such a breaking rule strategy continues into the White House, we can expect her to be impeached within the first year. The rules should not have been broken, but they have been, and Clinton supporters are still complaining. They should respect the decision, and face almost imminent defeat like every other honorable losing candidate has done thus far.

jodi   May 31st, 2008 7:24 pm ET

Great Job DNC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sam   May 31st, 2008 7:24 pm ET

great decision.

Patrick   May 31st, 2008 7:24 pm ET

THIS IS A WARNING TO THE DNC!! WE WILL NOT FORGET ABOUT THIS IN NOVEMBER!!!!!!!

jane   May 31st, 2008 7:24 pm ET

unbeleivable

The Rules   May 31st, 2008 7:23 pm ET

The rules exist to ensure that the people are served by the party, that their voices are heard. The rules do not exist to silence millions by the actions of a few. This is not a game, it is not about arbitrary rules. It is about serving the will of the people, and the Democratic party has failed in that charge and those responsible should be ashamed of themselves.

disbelief   May 31st, 2008 7:23 pm ET

I am confused about how two states knowingly violated the rules of the DNC and now complain about the solution offered. Much like candidate Clinton who knowingly agreed not to particiapate in the campaign process in each of the two states, yet now goes back on her word because of the cost of the action to her campaign. I wonder what kind of presidency rests with a candidate who can't be trusted from the start.

Hillary08   May 31st, 2008 7:23 pm ET

It's finally over!!. Florida and Michigan are now all included, no more excusses. This will all be officially over on Tuesday. Let's all unite behind the nominee. I was for Hillary but I don't think there is any more chance left for her to still win this, so allow me to officially say for the first time, OBAMA!!. YES WE CAN!!!!!!!!.

Disgusted in Oregon   May 31st, 2008 7:23 pm ET

The committee was more than fair to both Florida and Michigan. Hillary will still try to steal this nomination and her own people who spoke today have shown how ugly this campaign will continue to be as she tries to cause problems at the convention. She is truly an ugly human being on the inside where it counts most. Her ego means more to her than you or I. You are fools to vote for such a woman and you will regret it.

Belizegranny   May 31st, 2008 7:23 pm ET

How can Obama get Michigan votes without his name on the ballot???

Stephen Ellison   May 31st, 2008 7:23 pm ET

The entire rules committee process and procedure was completed solely in an effort to relieve pressure on members and as a result of behind the doors agreements; nowhere did I see any thread of genuine concern for the voters rights nor the democratic process.

This meeting, by itself, has done more to move voters to the Republican side than anything McCain could possibly have done, forgotten or mispoken.

I have been a democrat since I began voting in the 1960’s.

I am now an independent.

I can not nor will not support ANY party that takes the rights of its voters so lightly

dwho   May 31st, 2008 7:23 pm ET

DNC rules and Bylaws committee took action according to the request of MI Dems decision. As for FL OK at it was accepted. It is time to move on and forward.

Aaron   May 31st, 2008 7:22 pm ET

This whole thing is completely ridiculous. Only the Clintons could muscle the party to change the rules during the competition in their favor and still claim they are being victimized because they didn't get everything they asked for. Bill's legacy is completely tarnished. The party needs to move on, it no longer needs the Clintons and they know it.

Loretta from California   May 31st, 2008 7:22 pm ET

I don't believe their votes should count at all. Why have rules if you are not going to abide by them. They should consider themselves fortunate.

Ed   May 31st, 2008 7:22 pm ET

Based on the number of declared supporters going into the meeting, Hillary had an advantage in this committee – she still didn't get what she wanted. The question now is:

Will Hillary go with her party – or will she go on as a renegade and continue to question the rules and the fairness of the process?

Hillary will be President   May 31st, 2008 7:22 pm ET

Today, after seeing how the democrats love to lose and how stupid they can be, I will re register myself as a Republican.

I will never vote for Obama as an American who loves my country. I will vote for Hillary in the general election.

Obama will lose, mark my words.

Where's the KKK when we need them?

JD   May 31st, 2008 7:22 pm ET

The disgraceful behavior of the Clinton supporters shows just how disinterested in party unity they are. Hillary was entitled to the nomination, and they are unsurprisingly putting her above party.

Ultimately, it may not matter, as a strong enough performance in the final contests and a show of support from superdelegates could render their threats of disorder moot.

Meg   May 31st, 2008 7:22 pm ET

Today we have seen the end of the democratic process in the democratic party. They have taken uncommitted delegates and handed them to a candidate in a back room deal. OH HOW DEMOCRATIC!

Jim Florida   May 31st, 2008 7:22 pm ET

I have never felt so ashamed to be an American as to see my vote in Florida was counted like a half of an American. I hate being an American.

MD   May 31st, 2008 7:19 pm ET

Ickes is rude, unpricipled, and crude. No wonder he supports Hillary Clinton.

NoHillary   May 31st, 2008 7:19 pm ET

I can't believe that it is expected that a bunch of old fuddy duddies sitting around a table arguing after happy hour specials are supposed to be an accurate representation of the will of the people. Yah... this makes me proud to be American alright.

Jackson   May 31st, 2008 7:19 pm ET

So does Obama get the uncommitted vote?

nate   May 31st, 2008 7:19 pm ET

Cmon Clinton supporters, lets kiss and make-up :)

Maxwell   May 31st, 2008 7:19 pm ET

I just believed that DNC is not even able to respect its own rules and enforces them. Tomorrow, it would be a challenge of our constitution because it does not favor who would like. Is that the kind of democracy of cheating we want?

spencer   May 31st, 2008 7:19 pm ET

Obama should have got no votes from Michigan...I hope Hillary takes it to Denver....It is not far when you get something for free.. Hillary should have got all the delegates from Michigan...I will not unify....

pam Eugene OR   May 31st, 2008 7:19 pm ET

I can live with this. Now let's say good night Hillary.
The fat lady has sung!

Roshonn Texas   May 31st, 2008 7:19 pm ET

Finaly an answer.... but clinton still feels cheated, now the answer is why?

It's Official!   May 31st, 2008 7:19 pm ET

The Democrats will LOSE in November!

George   May 31st, 2008 7:19 pm ET

Thats it FULL STOP. Lets get the General election on the road full speed
ahead. HRC is a perennial flip-flopper. First she was dodging bullets then she was not. First she was for the rules then she was not. First she was for the war then she is against it. ENOUGH ALREADY.

OBAMA 08

Nathan   May 31st, 2008 7:18 pm ET

Rise, Hillary. RISE!

Obama should be ashamed of seeking to trample upon the civil rights of voters of Michigan and Florida. And to seek to disenfranchise the voters of those states. And to seek to illegally obtain votes for which he is not entitled. We have the New George Bush in waiting.

Hillary we shall see you in Denver. Never give up.

sdnalednas   May 31st, 2008 7:18 pm ET

4 or 5 people grew increasingly vocal

Jose A Goenaga   May 31st, 2008 7:18 pm ET

the vote of the people is written in the constitution, and no one can take the vote away!! Vote American, Buy American

B not for obama   May 31st, 2008 7:18 pm ET

Just another sham from the Democratic Party. Hillary please don't stop this race . America needs you ! This Democrat will vote Republican this year.

Hans-Erik Iken   May 31st, 2008 7:17 pm ET

It is time Clinton took control of her supporters the way Obama has done. She should make it clear that this is the best possible result and tell them to accept that as she does (should).

Lorna, NY   May 31st, 2008 7:17 pm ET

The Clintons have lost the democratic party!

Obama's November Loss   May 31st, 2008 7:17 pm ET

Hillary Dems unite...............Down with Obama.

Mike in PA   May 31st, 2008 7:16 pm ET

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MI and FL are now seated! Lets unite.

Obama '08!

Shawn   May 31st, 2008 7:16 pm ET

Hey DNC

Look what is going to hit you? where it hurts

John Morris   May 31st, 2008 7:15 pm ET

Florida deserves no delegates. Come on you guys, play by the rules. OH , I forget we are talking about the people that wasn't even smart enough to punch a minute CHAD out of a paper ballot. What will they cry about next. BARNEY THE DINOSAUR FRO PRESIDENT

Obama's November Loss   May 31st, 2008 7:13 pm ET

Denver Denver Denver Denver.

Obama's gonna lose, us Hillary Dems will make sure of that.

THE DNC JUST REPLACED THE WILL OF THE VOTERS WITH THEIR OWN WILLS!   May 31st, 2008 7:13 pm ET

AND, IT'S ON TO DENVER!!!

As a lifelong Democrat, I can promise you that we, the Democrats WILL NOT be unified in November.

We do not allow the DNC to replace the WILL OF THE VOTERS with THEIR OWN PERSONAL WILLS!!!

I think WE SHOULD lose the election in November. I have always voted Democrat. In November, I will be voting for McCain!

Marie   May 31st, 2008 7:13 pm ET

The Clinton groupies........Bitter, divisiveness, and disrespectful.,.....just like their candidate! The world is watching America and can see very clearly how HRC has divided her country, her party and lost all respect from those of outside looking in!
If HRC can not get back to the white house, she will make sure no democrat will! How sad and narcistic!

Truth   May 31st, 2008 7:12 pm ET

Clinton supporters need to bite the bullet and accept the truth. She can not win. She has in fact already lost. Florida and Michigan did not play by the rules. They shouldn't be counted at all. We have now only encouraged other states in the future to do what they did and not pay attention to the rules because they will not be held to the consequences.

Amy   May 31st, 2008 7:12 pm ET

I've been watching this debate for most of the afternoon and I must say the actions and displays by the Clinton supporters are disgraceful, disrespectful and pathetic. Oh, wait, they reflect their candidate.

Obama's supporters were very well behaved, didn't boo and disrupt the debates but no one could shut up the women for HIllary. Not all women are for her – apparently just the obnoxious, man-hating ones.

And what a funny thing that it was to watch Billary's panel supporters go on about how important the rules are when THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE FORCING THE BREAKAGE OF THE SAME RULES THEY AGREED TO!

Hillary – Bush – is there ANY difference????

georgia   May 31st, 2008 7:12 pm ET

So who in 2012 get's to play the "we're special,rules don't apply card " ?? where does it end if not now ?
Clinton OUT ,NOW !!!

Sharon   May 31st, 2008 7:11 pm ET

Welcome President McCain... no way the 20 years of tolerance of hate can win American hearts..

Politically Speaking   May 31st, 2008 7:11 pm ET

Hillary supporters were awfully nasty during the whole process. Unbelievable.

Alfredo (SSG)   May 31st, 2008 7:11 pm ET

I think what was done was best. Initially everyone including Clinton was for stripping both Michigan and Florida of all of their delgates. Now because she trails she desires to change the rules and her position. I'm not sure if this means anything as Obama is so far ahead it doesn't make a difference. The reason Hillary Clinton lost the nomination is because she took it for granted. Now she has to deal with it.

Comments have been closed for this article

subscribe RSS Icon
About The Ticker

The latest political news from CNN's Best Political Team, with campaign coverage, 24-7. Sign up for our twice daily Ticker emails. Got a news tip or feedback? For complete political coverage, bookmark CNNPolitics.com.

CNN=Politics Screensaver

CNN=Politics ScreensaverTap into the power of The Situation Room. Download this powerful new tool that keeps you posted on the latest political news from the campaign trail.
Download (4.1 MB, PC only)

twitter
@wolfblitzercnn: It's one thing when low-level US officials caution against sending more troops to Afghanistan. Quite different when the US Ambassador does.
Updated: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:28:06 -0800
@edhenrycnn: Leaving a rainy, dreary Washingtin for Tokyo http://yfrog.com/0xd2scj
Updated: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:46:32 -0800
@cnnsotu: RT @JohnKingCNN http://twitpic.com/p5o6z - Helena, MT
Updated: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:27:08 -0800
@edhenrycnn: @FrenchTwistDC turns out celebrity chef Eric Ripert is very close to the Dalai Lama. Eric called him "my Master" for making him better chef
Updated: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:21:08 -0800
@edhenrycnn: @PatiMc i like that mantra about board shorts and cannoli!
Updated: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:12:30 -0800
Categories
Powered by WordPress.com VIP