May 31st, 2008
07:03 PM ET
6 years ago

Florida compromise seats delegation, gives each half vote

WASHINGTON (CNN) - The Rules and Bylaws Committee narrowly voted Saturday against a motion by panel member Alice Huffman to fully seat Florida's delegation, sparking chaos in the ballroom where the panel was meeting, before voting almost unanimously to seat the full delegation but halve its voting strength.

The crowd grew increasingly vocal during the vote over Huffman's motion, as many in the audience began shouting at the members of the committee, hissing and chanting "Denver! Denver!" the site of the Democratic National Convention this summer.


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  1. M.C.

    Here is my thought-why would any delegate from Michigan or Florida pledge to Obama when he tried to throw them out?? He tried to disregard them. All of these delegates should immediately pledge to HILLARY!!!

    May 31, 2008 10:05 pm at 10:05 pm |
  2. Natalia

    Now is the time Hillary for you to abandon the Democratic party and go on as an Independent! Heaven knows that the DNC has already abandoned you! With the support you have won throughout the primary process, it should be apparent that you, more than anyone before, would be the one to make the run for the White House as an Independent; you have carried the majority ot the major states that would give you the most electoral votes. Go for it Hillary, don't let them jerk you around anymore. Now is the time for an INDEPENDENT. You will win! HILLARY FOR (INDEPENDENT) PRESIDENT.

    May 31, 2008 10:06 pm at 10:06 pm |
  3. Anwar

    DNC is stupid how Obama can get Michogan delegates when he was not on the ballot, we will not vote for Obama in GE, Mr experience JOHN McCAIN, OLD IS GOLD.

    May 31, 2008 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm |
  4. Frank Fornah

    The DNC must be very seriously pathurbed by the lack of integrity in the Democratic Party. By rewarding Senator Clinton for Michigan and Florida in violation of the DNC rules,justifies the RNC consideration about the Democrat Party. If she become the next president would one expect Senator Clinton to respect the American constitution , or she will just be another G W Bush to dictate and run this country by convenienvce regardless of what the constitution stipulates.

    Shame on you DNC, for allowing the Clintons to dictate their way in the Party.

    May 31, 2008 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm |
  5. Kelly

    It is time to move on. We can beat McCain if we come together behind the legitimate nominee, when the rpimaries conclude on tuesday.

    May 31, 2008 10:09 pm at 10:09 pm |
  6. Mike

    this is wrong!

    i knew this would happen, the DNC give the cold shoulder to voters.

    May 31, 2008 10:10 pm at 10:10 pm |
  7. Jean

    I believe that Harry Ickes behavior during the final Michigan discussion was downright disrespectful to the Committee and tells us a great deal about the mindset of Hillary's people. The very idea that they would reject a compromise developed by the State Democratic Party of Michigan, many of whom are Clinton supporters, tells me that they will stop at nothing to muddy the Party once they know that it is completely impossible to win. I don't believe the Clinton machine will give up, even if it costs the Democratic Party the general election.

    May 31, 2008 10:11 pm at 10:11 pm |
  8. Dana

    They are all nuts

    May 31, 2008 10:12 pm at 10:12 pm |
  9. Unbelievable

    I believe Clinton received more than she deserved. She can't agree before the voting process start that Michigan and Florida wouldn't count and now that she is losing she want to count the votes. Such a hypocrite.

    She keep on talking about how she would have the popular vote but in case she hasn't realize that the popular vote doesn't win the elections it is the delegate count–that is what cause Gore to lose. Bush had more delegates.

    Obama has proven that he knows the delegate game and Clinton hasn't but as a Democrat I'm glad this process is over now it is time to turn our focus on the Repulicans who have not served our country for the last eight years.

    May 31, 2008 10:16 pm at 10:16 pm |
  10. Judy T

    I am a died in the wool Democrat from Michigan. I love Michigan for many reasons including the wonderful people who live here. However, I feel that Michigan and Florida should not have been seated at all. They blew it when they decided to make their own rules. Governor Granholm was very wrong in allowing an early primary. She knew she was wrong and did it anyway. She and the Democrats of my state should be ashamed of themselves for causing Michigan to be one of the problems in this race. But they did it and I do not think these 2 states should be allowed to participate. Even small children learn the rules! You mess up – you pay the consequences! Sorry, I do not agree with today's decision to count Michigan and Florida in any way. Bad decision on the part of grown ups who are supposed to back the rules.

    May 31, 2008 10:19 pm at 10:19 pm |
  11. Kathy in Winchester, CA.

    It"s a sad day for almost 1.5 million voters....1/2 vote per delegate, what a joke...It really does not make a difference...My vote will now go to John McCain...Maybe the democrates can get their act together before the next election....I have an idea...whoever gets the most votes in the primary, gets the delegates...What a bright idea...

    May 31, 2008 10:20 pm at 10:20 pm |
  12. DEBRA GA

    I would just like to know if Donna Brazile if going to keep her word and quit the dnc she said she would if the super delegates had to decide the nominee i really hope she dose she is not for the people anyway she is for obama like over half that committee was i think they should all quit but they all have been bought off by obama he is trying to do Hillary the way he did those other people in Chicago who was running against him for his sen sit he found a way to get all of them taken off the ballot so he was the only one left running that's how he won and now hes got his lawyers and camp people trying to do the same thing to Hillary while he sets back and watch and tries to look innocent but we know don't we obama

    May 31, 2008 10:20 pm at 10:20 pm |
  13. Patriot Patrick of Houston

    Has Hilary thought about the fact that as the first woman running for President she is leaving a bad taste in our mouths for any woman running for office? Does she want little girls of America growing believing that to succeed she must lie, cheat, attact unfairly, and then be a poor loser?

    May 31, 2008 10:20 pm at 10:20 pm |
  14. Terry in Fl

    I'm a Florida voter, now I feel like half a voter. Should Hillary not prevail, my half vote goes to McCain. WAIT! If I vote Mccain then I am a WHOLE voter again! NO OBAMA!

    May 31, 2008 10:21 pm at 10:21 pm |
  15. Hal

    The Clintonmunistas are trying to STEAL the election. A la George Bush. ONLY a criminal would say that an election with only one candidate on the ballot is a fair election.

    The hysterical and racist Clintonites need to form a third party for the undereducated and move to Puerto Rico.

    May 31, 2008 10:22 pm at 10:22 pm |
  16. amtFresno,CA

    I am glad it is finally resolved. Obama is still ahead of Clinton & she will not be able to over take his lead. Clinton & Harold Ickes are UNHAPPY. Why should Hillary get her way? She thinks she has the Pres coming to her, just because she has the Clinton name. In spite of her Clinton political machine working for her Barack has beaten her & will be the Nominee. I seriously hope Barack does not put her on the ticket as Veep. She represents to much of an insider, old Washington politics. Obama for Pres. 08

    May 31, 2008 10:22 pm at 10:22 pm |
  17. Jerry Lee

    Just watched "Recount" Hillary would STILL be fighting that one.

    May 31, 2008 10:23 pm at 10:23 pm |
  18. Obedience is better than Sacrifice

    WHO IS AFRAID OF THE CLINTONS........HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN THE RULES IN SUBSEQUENT ELECTION...... PITIFUL

    May 31, 2008 10:24 pm at 10:24 pm |
  19. Pam

    I am really glad that FL will be represented at the convention.

    I sure hope they can do something about the Republican legislature in upcoming elections so that they cannot pull this again.

    May 31, 2008 10:25 pm at 10:25 pm |
  20. Nwanekezi Ntomchukwu tony.

    Decisions or laws made by any democratic party,should be seated upon without any compromise.Moreover the democrats authourities,
    should know that once laws are enacted covers all without any exceptional case.
    If Hillary were to be Obama in this primaries, I believe that she will
    oppose if Obama calls for sitting of the deligates of Florida and Michigan.Knowing fully well that they broke the law.
    Ntom,
    (AICHI-KEN, JAPAN)

    May 31, 2008 10:26 pm at 10:26 pm |
  21. Maggie

    I have watched this issue carefully and feel that a correct and just decision was made for all. Am glad Fla and MI will both be seated fully at Convention albeit with only 1/2 votes. Hope before 2012 these kinds of problems will be nipped in the bud and we don't go through this again. Moving the goalposts at the finish line is just not right.

    May 31, 2008 10:28 pm at 10:28 pm |
  22. fredi

    Let's not forget that Florida was pretty much a tie between Clinton (50%) and Obama+Edwards (33+14=47%) – so what's all that Clinton whining about? Even if you seat all the delegates 100%, Hillary gains 6 delegates – much ado about nothing.
    The DNC ruling – if anything – favors Clinton.

    May 31, 2008 10:30 pm at 10:30 pm |
  23. MacMo

    It wasnt the best decision to my personal judgement but I think it was the best thing to do under the circumstances. I believe since both campaigns agreed to the earlier decision to strip the 2 recalcitrant states for their full delegations, they should have stood their grounds. By cowtowing to Clinton's demands amount to dereliction of responsibilities and authority.

    May 31, 2008 10:31 pm at 10:31 pm |
  24. Garry J

    Half punishment !. Hillary will get a half laugh !! I think she would drag it as much as possible and give Mc Cain 4 yearsand the next four years for her.

    May 31, 2008 10:32 pm at 10:32 pm |
  25. Frances

    OK both MI and FL get all their votes counted but by only one half. I don't think they deserve any. Zero is what they should have gotten because they broke the rules. It's plain and simple. There are those who argued that the Republican leaders of Florida caused the problem but did anyone stop to think that the people of Florida voted to put the Repulicans in office. They had their say alright and they had their vote so why should the nomination process suffer because they chose the wrong leaders?

    However, as a democrat I think we need to move on from this problem and concentrate on gettting back the White House in the fall. The DNC did a compromising thing by giving FL and MI a voice so everyone should be content. Let's be fair about it.

    Hillary Clinton needs to stop dividing the party with her obvious sense of entitlement to the nomination. Now that the month of June is upon us, let's see if she will be graceful enough to give up. Remember her argument a week ago about stressing that her husband did not win the nomination until June and I shall not mention her other argument because it was pretty offensive? Now let's all watch her come out with more arguments about why this election should go until the convention. Of course, this won't surface until she loses the protest about the DNC decision and lose the mythical popular vote argument.

    Oh yes, the popular vote Ms Hillary keeps talking about. I only wonder why would any delegate think that just because she won a particular state in the primary, she would win that same state in the general election. Look at history superdelegates. There were many times when a person won a state in a primary, they didn't win it in the general election. Hence, Hillary's primary wins aren't a given in the fall. They just aren't. The delegate total is what you, as a superdelegate, shoud consider as most reflective of the will of the people and Obama has a majority of those.

    I was so proud that the DNC made people aware that there were many people who believed that their votes wouldn't count so they didn't go to the polls. So is it reflective of the will of the people that didn't go to the polls? No because there are 4 million registered democratic voters in FL yet only 1 million plus showed up to vote. That 's not the will of the people, just a few of them.

    I think America, except for the few remaining Hillary supporters, are tired of her and her insistence on changing rules only because changing them would benefit her. And only her.

    We as Americans are smarter then that Ms Hillary. Hence, Obama will get the nomination, soon

    May 31, 2008 10:32 pm at 10:32 pm |
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