Comments on: Florida compromise seats delegation, gives each half vote http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/ All politics, all the time Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:07:36 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Nicolas Smith http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175505 Nicolas Smith Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:11:12 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175505 Great lets move on and give credit to the clintons for getting the FL and Mi delegates seated. Now the math is still very difficult for her and her husband to succeed. She has proven she is a fighter but a poor leader because the management of her campaign was poor. Obama out foxed her again. I hope she is not going to show that she is a power hunger individual hiding behind older women and blue colar voters. Life is hard in America because of the RNC and Bush don't reinvent the wheel mrs clinton. Be wise..... unite do not divide. Great lets move on and give credit to the clintons for getting the FL and Mi delegates seated. Now the math is still very difficult for her and her husband to succeed. She has proven she is a fighter but a poor leader because the management of her campaign was poor. Obama out foxed her again. I hope she is not going to show that she is a power hunger individual hiding behind older women and blue colar voters. Life is hard in America because of the RNC and Bush don't reinvent the wheel mrs clinton. Be wise..... unite do not divide.

]]> By: PSmith http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175497 PSmith Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:10:26 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175497 There should be a new rule. Get rid of the DNC for creating such a rule. How can a bunch of incompetent people make a rule to disinfranchise a whole state. What a bunch of hipocrites! Denver or Write Hillary's name on the ballot! There should be a new rule. Get rid of the DNC for creating such a rule. How can a bunch of incompetent people make a rule to disinfranchise a whole state.

What a bunch of hipocrites!

Denver or Write Hillary's name on the ballot!

]]> By: James Lewis http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175479 James Lewis Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:09:17 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175479 I hear a great deal of controversy and talk that it is unfair not to seat the delegates and votes in Florida and Michigan, and I understand it to a degree, my only argument is that why didn't anyone from the Clinton campaign contest before she was losing the democratic nomination? If it is unfair now, why wasn't it when they initially made the decision. I hear a great deal of controversy and talk that it is unfair not to seat the delegates and votes in Florida and Michigan, and I understand it to a degree, my only argument is that why didn't anyone from the Clinton campaign contest before she was losing the democratic nomination? If it is unfair now, why wasn't it when they initially made the decision.

]]> By: Fair is Fair - POST MY COMMENT!!! http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175453 Fair is Fair - POST MY COMMENT!!! Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:06:24 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175453 I think democracy was carried out today in the best possible way for each of the candidates as well as the voters and non voters in the states of Florida and Michigan. As an Internet onlooker of the process, it was good to be able to witness "transparency" (to the extent that it was) in the political process by elected/appointed officials. In this sense, everybody won today although some may not want to concede to that (pardon the pun Hillary supporters). I would be interested to know how many people watched the entire process as I did either on television or via Internet. I do hope others around the world will post here to let us know if they were watching and what they thought of todays proceedings and results. Democrats Unite 08/2012! I think democracy was carried out today in the best possible way for each of the candidates as well as the voters and non voters in the states of Florida and Michigan. As an Internet onlooker of the process, it was good to be able to witness "transparency" (to the extent that it was) in the political process by elected/appointed officials. In this sense, everybody won today although some may not want to concede to that (pardon the pun Hillary supporters). I would be interested to know how many people watched the entire process as I did either on television or via Internet. I do hope others around the world will post here to let us know if they were watching and what they thought of todays proceedings and results. Democrats Unite 08/2012!

]]> By: lamont austin http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175441 lamont austin Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:05:06 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175441 4 weeks ago I said to friends, how could hilliary clinton argue a side that she agreed to and signed off on and then try to dispute they should be seated. I also said, my mother always taught me to play by the rules and if you change the rules in the middle of the game , thats cheating.. (a speaker today on the panel said the same thing) Didnt we as americans all learn the same thing? and the only way to solve the problem is to give equal votes to each candidate. (wich they did, why was that so hard) I also feel like hilliary clinton is a liar and a cheat, i cant believe people would vote for somebody who bold faced lied 3-4 times befor telling the truth, how could anybody vote for someone who said"i voted for the war but didnt want to vote for the war", 4 weeks ago I said to friends, how could hilliary clinton argue a side that she agreed to and signed off on and then try to dispute they should be seated. I also said, my mother always taught me to play by the rules and if you change the rules in the middle of the game , thats cheating.. (a speaker today on the panel said the same thing) Didnt we as americans all learn the same thing? and the only way to solve the problem is to give equal votes to each candidate. (wich they did, why was that so hard)

I also feel like hilliary clinton is a liar and a cheat, i cant believe people would vote for somebody who bold faced lied 3-4 times befor telling the truth, how could anybody vote for someone who said"i voted for the war but didnt want to vote for the war",

]]> By: mark in virginia http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175432 mark in virginia Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:04:16 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175432 first of all i am a republican, a republican that is very divided on the candidates...... but i was very impressed with the courage the committe showed today and how they pulled together and made the right decision.... one of the committee members.... simply put it out there so easily..... her momma said, play by the rules.... it is time for mr. ickes to give it up, take his ball and go home, maybe along the way bill and hillary will go to, and on june 3rd, the part will hopefully settle it all down..... and give obama his place in history.. as for me whoever that lady was, that had to be removed from the meeting and threatened to vote for McCain....... maybe i can take her place and support the democratic party for change..... any democrats out there that would welcome my interest in the party first of all i am a republican, a republican that is very divided on the candidates...... but i was very impressed with the courage the committe showed today and how they pulled together and made the right decision.... one of the committee members.... simply put it out there so easily..... her momma said, play by the rules.... it is time for mr. ickes to give it up, take his ball and go home, maybe along the way bill and hillary will go to, and on june 3rd, the part will hopefully settle it all down..... and give obama his place in history.. as for me
whoever that lady was, that had to be removed from the meeting and threatened to vote for McCain.......
maybe i can take her place and support the democratic party for change.....

any democrats out there that would welcome my interest in the party

]]> By: Helen, GA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175429 Helen, GA Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:03:43 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175429 DNC has moved to the left so much that I have no place in this party. Howard Dean is giving lecture to the DNC Bylaws committee. Harry reid, Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama are int he same boat. Vote Jophn McCain. DNC has moved to the left so much that I have no place in this party. Howard Dean is giving lecture to the DNC Bylaws committee. Harry reid, Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama are int he same boat. Vote Jophn McCain.

]]> By: Obedience is better than Sacrifice http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175428 Obedience is better than Sacrifice Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:03:17 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175428 Is Cnn afraid of the Clintons too ? why not post my comment after hours……… Is the Presidency the birth right of some people? This decision is not fair. But we are keenly watching Is Cnn afraid of the Clintons too ? why not post my comment after hours……… Is the Presidency the birth right of some people? This decision is not fair. But we are keenly watching

]]> By: Franki http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175427 Franki Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:03:05 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175427 Let's come together Let's come together

]]> By: Lee in Fort Worth http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175418 Lee in Fort Worth Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:02:13 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175418 Right on Dave....... Right on Dave.......

]]> By: Tina http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175403 Tina Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:00:40 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175403 "Denver, Denver" --- are these people for real. We will never win the general election if we keep fighting among each other. Howard Dean said it well in his opening statement today: "It's about the party - not the candidate" ! It is in the Clinton's hands to finally be concede and be reasonable here for the greater good instead of stirring up all this hatred and feeding the fire. "Denver, Denver" - are these people for real. We will never win the general election if we keep fighting among each other. Howard Dean said it well in his opening statement today:
"It's about the party – not the candidate" !
It is in the Clinton's hands to finally be concede and be reasonable here for the greater good instead of stirring up all this hatred and feeding the fire.

]]> By: Carrington Houndstooth III http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175402 Carrington Houndstooth III Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:00:26 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175402 Go Hillary! You are our only chance to win the whitehouse! Go Hillary!

You are our only chance to win the whitehouse!

]]> By: fred http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175400 fred Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:00:16 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175400 I think that Sen. Clinton will make a grave mistake if she takes her campaign to the convention. I honestly believe that by going all the way to the convention she will fan the flames of disunity and leave many of her followers bitter and likely not to vote for Sen. Obama when he is in all likelihood to be the nominee. I think she will ruin her chances for a 2012 run for the presidency and maybe even damage her entire political career. I realize the race is close, but I think it's just too much of a stretch at this point for her to make the numbers work. I think she feels like in the end she is going to win the political lottery and be vindicated, but at what cost? I think that Sen. Clinton will make a grave mistake if she takes her campaign to the convention. I honestly believe that by going all the way to the convention she will fan the flames of disunity and leave many of her followers bitter and likely not to vote for Sen. Obama when he is in all likelihood to be the nominee. I think she will ruin her chances for a 2012 run for the presidency and maybe even damage her entire political career. I realize the race is close, but I think it's just too much of a stretch at this point for her to make the numbers work. I think she feels like in the end she is going to win the political lottery and be vindicated, but at what cost?

]]> By: Lynn Gayton http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175398 Lynn Gayton Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:00:14 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175398 Rules are to be played by which they are set up and agreed to. Not changed in the middle of the game. Rules are to be played by which they are set up and agreed to. Not changed in the middle of the game.

]]> By: Chris from Michigan http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175392 Chris from Michigan Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:59:25 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175392 Agree with Dave in Maryland. Same goes for both Florida and Michigan. As a Michigander I should be thankful that the DNC decided to bend the rules just so Hillary could get her way. I find it disgusting though that they'll appeal all the way to the convention if need be on Michigan...quite sad. Agree with Dave in Maryland. Same goes for both Florida and Michigan. As a Michigander I should be thankful that the DNC decided to bend the rules just so Hillary could get her way. I find it disgusting though that they'll appeal all the way to the convention if need be on Michigan...quite sad.

]]> By: adam http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175387 adam Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:58:45 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175387 This proves DEMOCRACY DOESN'T EXIST!! VOTE REPUBLICAN - McCAIN 2008!!!! This proves DEMOCRACY DOESN'T EXIST!!

VOTE REPUBLICAN – McCAIN 2008!!!!

]]> By: Roofin Reality, Houston, Tx. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175385 Roofin Reality, Houston, Tx. Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:58:24 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175385 Agree. They were told they'd get zero, and they got half. Not bad at all. Seems everyone was fairly okay with this so let's move forward and get on with the General Election campaigning. Agree. They were told they'd get zero, and they got half. Not bad at all. Seems everyone was fairly okay with this so let's move forward and get on with the General Election campaigning.

]]> By: Jonathan http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175382 Jonathan Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:58:17 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175382 I hope people understand that the Democratic Party doesn't have to give anyone a say. Parties don't exist under the constitution. They're just a good way of organizing people. There's no way anyone could force the DNC to give ANY state a vote, since they don't actually exist under the constitution. So when the DNC elects whoever, the people had a say, but it's the party leaders who really allow it. If they want to completely toss out all the votes and nominate Al Gore, they can. There's nothing that the law can do to stop them. I hope people understand that the Democratic Party doesn't have to give anyone a say. Parties don't exist under the constitution. They're just a good way of organizing people. There's no way anyone could force the DNC to give ANY state a vote, since they don't actually exist under the constitution. So when the DNC elects whoever, the people had a say, but it's the party leaders who really allow it. If they want to completely toss out all the votes and nominate Al Gore, they can. There's nothing that the law can do to stop them.

]]> By: Chris http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175380 Chris Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:58:00 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175380 I'm a Floridian and it's comical to me that back when the Florida Democratic Party was told not to move their primary or the votes would not be counted there simply was no uproar by democrats in Florida. ONLY when it became apparent that Hillary Clinton was not going to win the nomination did the Florida votes become important and these Clinton supporters in Florida came out of the woodwork complaining that their votes should count. Talk about adults acting like children. I hope all of the crying and whining was still worth it Clinton supporters. Well Hillary Clinton still is not going to win. I'm a Floridian and it's comical to me that back when the Florida Democratic Party was told not to move their primary or the votes would not be counted there simply was no uproar by democrats in Florida. ONLY when it became apparent that Hillary Clinton was not going to win the nomination did the Florida votes become important and these Clinton supporters in Florida came out of the woodwork complaining that their votes should count. Talk about adults acting like children.

I hope all of the crying and whining was still worth it Clinton supporters.
Well Hillary Clinton still is not going to win.

]]> By: colene http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175368 colene Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:57:37 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175368 I second. Things are working out very well on to November! I second. Things are working out very well on to November!

]]> By: El Máximo Gutierrez http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175367 El Máximo Gutierrez Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:57:36 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175367 WE LOVE YOU OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!! EX-HILLARY SUPPORTERS NOW REALIZE THAT SHE IS A LYING MANIPULATOR WHO MUST BE STOPPED!! OBAMA '08 & '12 Si Se PuEdE jEs We CaN sI sE pUeDe JeS wE cAN!!!!!!!!!! WE LOVE YOU OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

EX-HILLARY SUPPORTERS NOW REALIZE THAT SHE IS A LYING MANIPULATOR WHO MUST BE STOPPED!!

OBAMA '08 & '12

Si Se PuEdE jEs We CaN sI sE pUeDe JeS wE cAN!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Tina http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175366 Tina Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:57:35 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175366 good job! now lets move forward to the general election. Hillary you are great but its time to give in. Obama will win the nomination Obama 08 good job! now lets move forward to the general election. Hillary you are great but its time to give in. Obama will win the nomination

Obama 08

]]> By: Brendose, Oceanside CA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175359 Brendose, Oceanside CA Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:56:56 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175359 At least it was a compromise.....come on Hillary supporters....come back to reality.........and join once again the Democratic Party and Support Obama. It's over.......now it's time to unite and defeat the real evil.........McCain. Don't be sore losers....it makes you look worse. Go out with dignity. Realize that you put up a good fight, created history, and opened the doors for a more diverse selection for President in the years to come. At least it was a compromise.....come on Hillary supporters....come back to reality.........and join once again the Democratic Party and Support Obama. It's over.......now it's time to unite and defeat the real evil.........McCain.

Don't be sore losers....it makes you look worse. Go out with dignity. Realize that you put up a good fight, created history, and opened the doors for a more diverse selection for President in the years to come.

]]> By: silas http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175345 silas Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:55:31 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175345 Yea, it's time for us to come together. I hope Bill and Hilary will bring the party together now. Pls Guys, Pls this is the time Yea, it's time for us to come together. I hope Bill and Hilary will bring the party together now. Pls Guys, Pls this is the time

]]> By: David King http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175330 David King Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:54:05 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175330 OBAMA '08 Baby!!!!!!! OBAMA '08 Baby!!!!!!!

]]> By: Adam http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175327 Adam Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:53:52 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175327 OK, so since the rules apparently don't mean anything, is the first primary for the next presidential election going to be January 27, 2009? OK, so since the rules apparently don't mean anything, is the first primary for the next presidential election going to be January 27, 2009?

]]> By: Tom Lites http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175323 Tom Lites Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:53:34 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175323 I imagine there wouldn't be all this talk about breaking the rules had obama not taken his name off the ballot in michigan. If he is so firmly convicted about not counting the votes if his name was on the ballot in florida but not in michigan? Sounds more like a poor political decision. Also this church problem of his isn't going away. How will American's identify with someone who left his church of 20+ years due to political pressure? I think thats probably worse than staying in the church. It does seem elitist, Hillary will win the popular vote and it is political suicide for superdelegates to not support her. If she is not nominated the democrats will destroy their chances. I imagine there wouldn't be all this talk about breaking the rules had obama not taken his name off the ballot in michigan. If he is so firmly convicted about not counting the votes if his name was on the ballot in florida but not in michigan? Sounds more like a poor political decision. Also this church problem of his isn't going away. How will American's identify with someone who left his church of 20+ years due to political pressure? I think thats probably worse than staying in the church. It does seem elitist, Hillary will win the popular vote and it is political suicide for superdelegates to not support her. If she is not nominated the democrats will destroy their chances.

]]> By: jack http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175304 jack Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:51:23 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175304 Anyone who follows Hillary in a fight all the way to Denver is just asking for a McBush victory. And what about the Supreme Court??? Do we really need more GOP judges sitting on that bench??? Think about Roe v Wade?? Think about how the GOP controled bench took away the Fla. vote and gave it to the loser of that race. Can we all stand by and watch America go down the toliet by letting another Republican into the White House? It is not about Obama or Hillary, it is all about the DONKEY or the ELEPHANT. VOTE YOUR PARTY NOT THE PERSON Anyone who follows Hillary in a fight all the way to Denver is just asking for a McBush victory. And what about the Supreme Court??? Do we really need more GOP judges sitting on that bench??? Think about Roe v Wade?? Think about how the GOP controled bench took away the Fla. vote and gave it to the loser of that race. Can we all stand by and watch America go down the toliet by letting another Republican into the White House?
It is not about Obama or Hillary, it is all about the DONKEY or the ELEPHANT.

VOTE YOUR PARTY NOT THE PERSON

]]> By: malia http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175295 malia Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:50:28 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175295 This is all part of the game played by Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean and the rest of the Democrats in order to crush Hillary, I can guarantee you, you will pay for it in November. This is all part of the game played by Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean and the rest of the Democrats in order to crush Hillary, I can guarantee you, you will pay for it in November.

]]> By: MP-pennsylvania http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175280 MP-pennsylvania Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:48:25 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175280 I hope those who did not vote will not be desfranchised and stay with the party I hope those who did not vote will not be desfranchised and stay with the party

]]> By: Elegua http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175277 Elegua Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:47:56 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175277 hilarious or hatelarius has managed to destroy our party, she acts more republican than McBush, even Bush and McCain are somewhat more decent than this evil creature........... should something happen to our next president you know who to look for, as the planner, enabler and overall evil creature.. this woman has no name, no soul, may the universe give her what she deserves...............NO SOUL hilarious or hatelarius has managed to destroy our party, she acts more republican than McBush, even Bush and McCain are somewhat more decent than this evil creature...........

should something happen to our next president you know who to look for, as the planner, enabler and overall evil creature..

this woman has no name, no soul, may the universe give her what she deserves...............NO SOUL

]]> By: julie http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175266 julie Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:46:48 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175266 Even this "compromise" is pretty outrageous after Hillary and all involved agreed Florida and Michigan would be disqualified. Is it over? No. The Clintons want to win "whatever it takes." Forget the cost to the party and the country. Obsessive ambition is dangerous. Even this "compromise" is pretty outrageous after Hillary and all involved agreed Florida and Michigan would be disqualified. Is it over? No. The Clintons want to win "whatever it takes." Forget the cost to the party and the country. Obsessive ambition is dangerous.

]]> By: World view http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175263 World view Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:46:27 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175263 Florida was easier than Michigan. I think the committee did the best it could. Florida was easier than Michigan. I think the committee did the best it could.

]]> By: Fairness and Unity http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175251 Fairness and Unity Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:44:17 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175251 It is about time. The Hillary supporters that were there showed very little respect for the democratic process and thier candidate. Harold Icky (yes I meant icy, as in nasty) and his polictical posturing was disgusting. This was an opportunity to gain party unitiy, but the Hillary camp still wants to divide. It sickens me, because they knew the rules before hand and Hillary agreed publicly and privately to those rules. Lastly, Rules…Rule!! It is about time. The Hillary supporters that were there showed very little respect for the democratic process and thier candidate. Harold Icky (yes I meant icy, as in nasty) and his polictical posturing was disgusting. This was an opportunity to gain party unitiy, but the Hillary camp still wants to divide. It sickens me, because they knew the rules before hand and Hillary agreed publicly and privately to those rules.

Lastly, Rules…Rule!!

]]> By: Grown Ups Taking Charge http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175242 Grown Ups Taking Charge Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:42:05 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175242 Today's RBC meeting was merely a glimpse of how great the Democratic Party can be once again when they sit down at the table like adults and work out their differences for the GOOD OF THE PARTY/COUNTRY not the individual candidates. While I am proud to throw my support behind Sen. Obama, I was equally proud today of the very difficult task faced by the members of the RBC who were clearly Sen. Clinton supporters but had to show their loyalty to the party over her greatest desires/ambitions simply because she is their preferred candidate. This is what being about the WE vs the I is all about. Harold Ickes' behavior was the height of immaturity and while I empathize with the Clinton supporters in attendance at the meeting and their disappointment in the outcome, they definitely did not honor themselves or their candidate with some of the behavior exhibited and courageously called out by RBC member and Clinton supporter Alice Huffman Today's RBC meeting was merely a glimpse of how great the Democratic Party can be once again when they sit down at the table like adults and work out their differences for the GOOD OF THE PARTY/COUNTRY not the individual candidates.

While I am proud to throw my support behind Sen. Obama, I was equally proud today of the very difficult task faced by the members of the RBC who were clearly Sen. Clinton supporters but had to show their loyalty to the party over her greatest desires/ambitions simply because she is their preferred candidate. This is what being about the WE vs the I is all about.

Harold Ickes' behavior was the height of immaturity and while I empathize with the Clinton supporters in attendance at the meeting and their disappointment in the outcome, they definitely did not honor themselves or their candidate with some of the behavior exhibited and courageously called out by RBC member and Clinton supporter Alice Huffman

]]> By: Critical View http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175239 Critical View Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:41:54 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175239 To Win in November: Let FL and MI Redo Primary The Democratic Rules Committee’s (DRC) decision on FL and MI was made apparently based on two factors: (1) to seat the delegates, and (2) not to drastically change Obama’s delegation lead. However, this decision failed to accomplish what I have been advocating: rules must be fair, legal, and winning. For the FL case, the decision is probably legal, but it is not fair to reduce each delegate to ½ vote. For MI case, the decision is neither legal nor fair. Since Obama name was not on the ballot, how could DRC allocate delegates to him? As I mentioned before, if DNC punish FL and MI, they may just as well kiss good bye to these two states and accept the defeat in November. Now the DRC have decided to punish FL and MI, are Democrats prepared to give up these two states? I have given DNC the following advice: the only fair, legal, and winning solution to this problem is to redo the primary in Florida and Michigan. I doubt that there are enough wisdom and power in the Democratic leadership to see this point and to reverse the course. To Win in November: Let FL and MI Redo Primary

The Democratic Rules Committee’s (DRC) decision on FL and MI was made apparently based on two factors: (1) to seat the delegates, and (2) not to drastically change Obama’s delegation lead. However, this decision failed to accomplish what I have been advocating: rules must be fair, legal, and winning. For the FL case, the decision is probably legal, but it is not fair to reduce each delegate to ½ vote. For MI case, the decision is neither legal nor fair. Since Obama name was not on the ballot, how could DRC allocate delegates to him? As I mentioned before, if DNC punish FL and MI, they may just as well kiss good bye to these two states and accept the defeat in November. Now the DRC have decided to punish FL and MI, are Democrats prepared to give up these two states? I have given DNC the following advice: the only fair, legal, and winning solution to this problem is to redo the primary in Florida and Michigan. I doubt that there are enough wisdom and power in the Democratic leadership to see this point and to reverse the course.

]]> By: Dave in Maryland http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175238 Dave in Maryland Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:41:40 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175238 Not bad for breaking the rules….. Forward march onto the General election. Not bad for breaking the rules….. Forward march onto the General election.

]]> By: monyneen http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175231 monyneen Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:41:03 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175231 the DNC have messed this one up . Fl. should have ALL there votes counted for Hillary . Watch out Denver and watch out in 08 . Obama will LOSE the election if Clinton is not treated fairly . the DNC have messed this one up . Fl. should have ALL there votes counted for Hillary . Watch out Denver and watch out in 08 . Obama will LOSE the election if Clinton is not treated fairly .

]]> By: Jesse http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175227 Jesse Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:39:21 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175227 People who slapped in the face by this half vote should remember the politicians that betrayed them when it comes election time. The voters are penalized for the action of some politicians. Pathetic. Where is the freedom and Democracy in that? Looks like more of a dictatorship in regards to it favoring the candidate of choice for Dean, Gore, Kennedy and Kerry. People who slapped in the face by this half vote should remember the politicians that betrayed them when it comes election time.

The voters are penalized for the action of some politicians. Pathetic.

Where is the freedom and Democracy in that?

Looks like more of a dictatorship in regards to it favoring the candidate of choice for Dean, Gore, Kennedy and Kerry.

]]> By: Ernest http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175224 Ernest Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:38:28 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175224 I think that is fair. I think that is fair.

]]> By: Clinton For President http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175221 Clinton For President Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:37:53 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175221 FL should be completely seated. All the candidates were on the ballot. Obama ran ads. Take it to the convention, Mrs. Clinton! FL should be completely seated. All the candidates were on the ballot. Obama ran ads. Take it to the convention, Mrs. Clinton!

]]> By: Ivan, Chicago, Illinois http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175215 Ivan, Chicago, Illinois Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:34:30 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175215 The only way I will vote for Obama is if the Democratic party changes our primary system. A winner takes all the delegates, closed primaries no Independents or Republican allowed to vote, no cacuses, and if there are superdelegates, either they're able to vote for whoever they want, or there are rules put in place who they can vote for. And the latter then what need is there for superdelegates? I believe this system was put in place by McGovern and the "Left" wing of the party, and since then how many elections have we won? One by Carter because of "Watergate", Two by Clinton because he ran from the "Center", the "Left" Zero. Obama running from the"Left" will lose to McCain. The only way I will vote for Obama is if the Democratic party changes our primary system. A winner takes all the delegates, closed primaries no Independents or Republican allowed to vote, no cacuses, and if there are superdelegates, either they're able to vote for whoever they want, or there are rules put in place who they can vote for. And the latter then what need is there for superdelegates?
I believe this system was put in place by McGovern and the "Left" wing of the party, and since then how many elections have we won?
One by Carter because of "Watergate", Two by Clinton because he ran from the "Center", the "Left" Zero.
Obama running from the"Left" will lose to McCain.

]]> By: David L. Harbison http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175211 David L. Harbison Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:33:08 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175211 I fully exspected that only half of the Michigan Delegates would be seated because all uncommitted votes might have been for other candidates and Obama's among other took thier names of the ballot. But Florida is a very different situation altogether and if i was in Hillary Clinton's shoes i wound contest it. Take it to the credentials committe in August. I feel that in Florida what Obama atleast ran ads, regardless of his excuses for them, He broke the rules and campaigned. Hillary should have gotten everything in Floriad that the people gave her. I don't believe for one minute that the DNC has treated Hillary fairly. You people are the one's Chasing her supporters out of the Democratic party.So don't pretend that all things are forgiven. Just know that its the parties fault in the first place. I fully exspected that only half of the Michigan Delegates would be seated because all uncommitted votes might have been for other candidates and Obama's among other took thier names of the ballot. But Florida is a very different situation altogether and if i was in Hillary Clinton's shoes i wound contest it. Take it to the credentials committe in August. I feel that in Florida what Obama atleast ran ads, regardless of his excuses for them, He broke the rules and campaigned. Hillary should have gotten everything in Floriad that the people gave her. I don't believe for one minute that the DNC has treated Hillary fairly. You people are the one's Chasing her supporters out of the Democratic party.So don't pretend that all things are forgiven. Just know that its the parties fault in the first place.

]]> By: Ed, Santa Fe, NM http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175208 Ed, Santa Fe, NM Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:32:47 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175208 BYE BYE, HILLARY!!!! BYE BYE, HILLARY!!!!

]]> By: joe http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175195 joe Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:29:58 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175195 It's on wonder the Democrats have been losers. It's on wonder the Democrats have been losers.

]]> By: Veronica Pais http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175191 Veronica Pais Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:29:19 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175191 I've never joined a party, I'm a swing voter, who voted for for a democrate for the first time, and I joined the Democrate party in support of Hillary Clinton. After seeing today's rules committee actually take delegates from Hillary and give them to the apposing candidate shocked me to my very core. It could have been done to McCain, Obama, whoever and I would have felt the same. I'm fully regretting my decision to actually join a party that could do this. Every word Harold Icky said could not have been better worded. To take a candidates delegates and acutally award them to someone else told me that your party is not for me and when will they do it to my state if this should ever happen again. I will be withdrawing from the Democrate Party. The Republican never messed with my vote and I'm secured it won't. This panel of rules, who repeatedly mouthed following the rule should have applied it the the greatest rule which is our Constitution. I was going to vote for either candidate if it was just a 50/50, until some of Clinton's earned delegates, by voters who voted for her, were given away. I'm 54, and in all my year's involved in politics, I have never witnessed anything like this. I cannot express deeply enough the damage that this has done to my support to any party. I should never have joined. The first time in my life I actually joined a party and look what they did. You may say that this comes from my disapointment because I supported Hillary Clinton, but you could not be more wrong. This is strickly due to those earned delegate given to a another. I will return my vote where I know it counts. I would rather live another four years with Republicans to prove a point that a persons vote is more important and the Constitution is stronger that a party's rules. I guess you can say in November my vote will count. What was done to Michigan, really was done to all other 48 states if things out of the voters control ever happens to them. If Hillary goes to the convention and wins I might reconsider my vote since I will see that the voters count. Only if I am convinced. I will now go to the Democratic website and see how I can withdraw my membership. Veronica Pais, San Antonio, TX Independent again I've never joined a party, I'm a swing voter, who voted for for a democrate for the first time, and I joined the Democrate party in support of Hillary Clinton. After seeing today's rules committee actually take delegates from Hillary and give them to the apposing candidate shocked me to my very core. It could have been done to McCain, Obama, whoever and I would have felt the same. I'm fully regretting my decision to actually join a party that could do this. Every word Harold Icky said could not have been better worded. To take a candidates delegates and acutally award them to someone else told me that your party is not for me and when will they do it to my state if this should ever happen again. I will be withdrawing from the Democrate Party. The Republican never messed with my vote and I'm secured it won't. This panel of rules, who repeatedly mouthed following the rule should have applied it the the greatest rule which is our Constitution. I was going to vote for either candidate if it was just a 50/50, until some of Clinton's earned delegates, by voters who voted for her, were given away. I'm 54, and in all my year's involved in politics, I have never witnessed anything like this. I cannot express deeply enough the damage that this has done to my support to any party. I should never have joined. The first time in my life I actually joined a party and look what they did. You may say that this comes from my disapointment because I supported Hillary Clinton, but you could not be more wrong. This is strickly due to those earned delegate given to a another. I will return my vote where I know it counts. I would rather live another four years with Republicans to prove a point that a persons vote is more important and the Constitution is stronger that a party's rules. I guess you can say in November my vote will count. What was done to Michigan, really was done to all other 48 states if things out of the voters control ever happens to them.

If Hillary goes to the convention and wins I might reconsider my vote since I will see that the voters count. Only if I am convinced. I will now go to the Democratic website and see how I can withdraw my membership. Veronica Pais, San Antonio, TX Independent again

]]> By: RockyHF http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175188 RockyHF Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:28:09 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175188 This has gone on far to long. The DNC has said their peace and it is what it is. Hillary and camp need to move on and help bring the party together in order to win the election and bring a DEM back into the White House! This has gone on far to long. The DNC has said their peace and it is what it is. Hillary and camp need to move on and help bring the party together in order to win the election and bring a DEM back into the White House!

]]> By: jaylo http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175183 jaylo Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:26:33 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175183 Trouble ahead. Trouble ahead.

]]> By: Norma Thoma http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175162 Norma Thoma Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:21:41 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175162 Totally discussed that I, as an American will only be represented by half a vote. The DNC Committee meeting was a total fiasco and first thing Monday morning I will be changing my party affiliation to that of Republican so that I can be recognized as a 100% American and not a 50% American in the voting booth. At 74, I have been a Democrat all my life and voted a straight democratic ticket in every election, but I am now totally dismayed at the way the party has handled the Florida Elections. We aren't a bunch of illeterates, we read the papers, listen to the news, we knew who we wanted to vote for and I think Harold Ickes summed it all up. Thanks Harold. Totally discussed that I, as an American will only be represented by half a vote. The DNC Committee meeting was a total fiasco and first thing Monday morning I will be changing my party affiliation to that of Republican so that I can be recognized as a 100% American and not a 50% American in the voting booth. At 74, I have been a Democrat all my life and voted a straight democratic ticket in every election, but I am now totally dismayed at the way the party has handled the Florida Elections. We aren't a bunch of illeterates, we read the papers, listen to the news, we knew who we wanted to vote for and I think Harold Ickes summed it all up. Thanks Harold.

]]> By: Sherri http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/31/florida-compromise-seats-delegation-gives-each-half-vote/#comment-1175152 Sherri Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:20:23 +0000 http://cnnpoliticalticker.wordpress.com/?p=7455#comment-1175152 Michigan deserved nothing, zero, zilch! The Florida decision is okay. I can live with the compromise, but I certainly don't like the message of anything being gained by cheating and breaking the rules. I will never trust Hillary Clinton. She is a terrible example for the young women of our country. Michigan deserved nothing, zero, zilch! The Florida decision is okay.

I can live with the compromise, but I certainly don't like the message of anything being gained by cheating and breaking the rules.

I will never trust Hillary Clinton. She is a terrible example for the young women of our country.

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