May 31st, 2008
07:23 PM ET
6 years ago

Full Michigan delegation with half-vote to be seated by Dems

WASHINGTON (CNN) - The Democratic National Committee's Rules and Bylaws
Committee on Saturday voted to seat all Michigan delegates to its convention, giving each a half-vote and dividing them to give Hillary Clinton a slight edge over Barack Obama.

The 19-8 vote gives 69 pledged delegates to Clinton and 59 to frontrunner Obama - each with half a vote because Michigan was penalized, like Florida, for moving its primary ahead in the campaign season.

Clinton adviser and RBC member Harold Ickes said, "Mrs. Clinton has instructed me to reserve her rights to take this to the Credentials Committee."


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  1. THE LONE RANGER

    OBAMA PLAYED BY THE RULES. HILLARY AND HER PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO TURN THIS PRIMARY INTO A BANANA REPUBLIC ELECTION, WHERE ANYTHING GOES, AND RULES GET CHANGED ACCORDING TO THE FLOW OF THE GAME.
    HAROLD ICKES SHOWED HIMSELF TO BE A CRYBABY, AND SORE LOOSER, BY ACCUSING THE PROCESS OF THIEVERY AND OF HIJACKING. MEANWHILE, WACKO PRUNE FACE, HARRIET CHRISTIAN, CREATED QUITE A SIDE SHOW IN HER QUEST FOR HER 15 SECONDS OF INFAMY.

    June 1, 2008 12:32 am at 12:32 am |
  2. Clay from alabama

    Florida got penalized by the Dems the very same as they got penalized from the Reps with this new ruling, so all seems fair there. Plus all parties (FL, Obama Campaign, and Clinton Campaign) agreed to it even though Clinton's campaign would LIKE for full votes, they were ok with this way
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    If that is fair for FL than it is fair for MI. For 45% of the people to vote "any body but Clinton" is VERY telling, whether or not both Obama and Edwards both took their name off the ballot (and by the way could not get write in votes, due to MI rules and laws, with by some counts Obama got some 30K of those).

    So it seems very fair for Obama to get those uncommitted votes. Plus even if he didn't MI DNC recently voted for their "uncommitted" representatives. 90% of those have already declared that they would back Obama, so even if you gave those to "uncommitted" "uncommitted" IS Obama, it is the same outcome.

    June 1, 2008 12:33 am at 12:33 am |
  3. Ras

    You know, this just goes to show you how arrogant people can be. Florida and Michigan should have NONE of their votes counted, according to the rules ALL the Democratic candidates agreed to originally. Now some people are screaming, oh well, we're actually entitled to the votes, even though we couldn't get our act together and comply LIKE THE OTHER 48 STATES DID! But these are the values people want their children to learn I guess....do whatever and say whatever you think is fair to you, and cry if the rest of the world won't buy into it. And you wonder how we wound up with the mess we've had the past 8 years.

    June 1, 2008 12:33 am at 12:33 am |
  4. Wake Up People!!!

    Rules were broken!!!!

    FL and MI had to pay a price.

    So goes Hillary's argument.

    Let her fight on to the convention if she must.

    All it will cost us Dems, ReganDems, and Independents is the White House.

    Unless we can break some more rules to get her the nomination.

    This is an end game and we should move on together as one!

    Obama/? I'm for it!

    June 1, 2008 12:34 am at 12:34 am |
  5. henry

    It is very obvious that the party elders at the DNC is pushing and pressuring the still uncommitted superdelegates to vote and endorse Obama ASAP & they want Obama to be the nominee even though base on the Electoral College format on the General Election, Clinton clearly had the magic number of 270 pts. to seal the Presidency. The DNC just officially committed a political suicide and just handed what should be a cakewalk for them and handed the victory to McCain and the GOP's.

    June 1, 2008 12:34 am at 12:34 am |
  6. Tom

    Josh why would you consider penalizing Obama for following the rules in Michigan? Just curious because your comment seems immature... good to see a resolution and Clinton getting the edge. But time to move on and support Mr. Obama in his campaign against McCain. This is an important election and we can't afford a president that would continue the horrible policies of George Bush. Time to reach out to the older, white blue collar demographics such as myself to unite the Democratic party and help Barack Obama protect the American Dream.

    June 1, 2008 12:35 am at 12:35 am |
  7. David Newport, OR

    Josh...it is a shame you feel that way. It is more than your state deserves. But hey...it was your state that decided to break the rules knowing full well the punishment and yet, now they cry foul. This compromise was reached in an attempt to pull the party together. Too bad it appears certain groups will never be happy. My suggestion...start blaming your state's democratic party for their choices, because it was their decision that put all of us in this situation. Frankly, it was their decision that in all likelihood will keep the Republican party in the white house this fall. Time to get over it and start working together.

    June 1, 2008 12:37 am at 12:37 am |
  8. KCJ, FLORIDA

    SHE SHOULD`NT EVEN GOTTEN WHAT THE RULES COMMITTEE AND THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN DECIDED TO GIVE HER IN THE END JUST TO SHUT HER UP,AND THE SAD TRUTH ABOUT THIS WHOLE EVENT IS THAT WE ALL ON THE OBAMA SIDE WILL JUST SIT BACK AND KEEP WATCHING THE CLINTON BACKERS B****H AND MOAN ALL THE WAY TO THE CONVENTION.( LOSERS )

    June 1, 2008 12:39 am at 12:39 am |
  9. A weary independent voter

    So many things are wrong with your commentary Josh.

    Hillary ran Unopposed and still a significant percentage of the voters chose "Other" over her.

    MI voters were informed that their primary did Not count. How many stayed home Josh? Nobody knows for certain. That's why the rules committee had to come up with a remedy.

    That is why Hillary's "win" in Michigan is a farce. She like any tinpot dictator can claim a victory when running unopposed. But claiming all the votes and the delegates is utterly ludicrous.

    Obama "conveniently" chose to remove his name from the ballot?! Hogwash. He followed the rules and did what the DNC had ordered.
    There was no subterfuge on his part. Hillary on the other hand...

    The DNC, if I'm correct, followed the remedy that the Michigan Democratic Party offered.

    So hate away. Live in "Hillaryland" where excuse, complaint, and blaming everyone else for a poorly run (deeply in debt) campaign. Your carnival ride will be over by Tuesday.

    The majority of independent voters prefer Obama, and can't wait for Hillary to go away. We have a criminal presidency, a tanking economy, a war to end and a Republican to defeat. Put the knives down and get started.

    June 1, 2008 12:39 am at 12:39 am |
  10. Debra

    I believe considering all, that the DNC delt with this imperative matter in a diplomatic way. There is no reason whatsoever that the Clinton's should get all the delegates. They agreed that these votes would not count as well as agreed not to campaign in either state. You can not change the rules when you see that your not winning. Hillary did not do well in planning this campaign from the very beginning and neither did her campaign managers. Her mistake was not planning past super tuesday and it was down hill from there. This blaming Obama for every bad decision her and her campaign has made is pain crazy.
    Did anyone in their right mind think that she would get all the delegates in fl or mi, when all people did not vote in either state because of what they were told. Most people do follow the rules and then there are those that follow as long as it is in their favor. Which bring to question her integrity, honoring her word. What we witnessed in this and many of her other flaws [lieing] is what has hurt Hillary. Her word is not at all solid. If you see this now, what will happen once she's in the white house. All the promises she has made during her compaign will be aborted once she's in. Then the people will get it. How you start out is how you must end. I don't believe we have heard the last of the Clinton's. Knowing them as I have come to learn, they never leave on a graceful or poistive exit. I was a supporter of Clinton at first but when I seen the constant lies and dirty politics , I could not support any longer. It's one thing to be strong when your right but you can't stand strong when you know your wrong. You will fall hard from grace at that point. There is a new movement we are seeing here and now. God is doing a new thing here and what we once new to be the norm is no longer normal. Although, I pray that the woman that say they won't support Barack will change their view, if they choose not to, it's ok because God has already selected those that he chose to elect Sen. Obama to be the next Commander-In-Chief. It may not be in the states that we normally expect it to happen. We become so complacent with the way things are alway's done, that when we see a change we see it as strange and begin to fight it only to find in the end, it was the best thing that could have happened. What we need so desperately now is to unite this party and continue to progress toward the white house. United we stand and devided we fall. the rep. are hoping that we will continue to fight against one another because that a almost sure win for them. Democrats we must stand
    together , we are the only one's that can cause us to lose this election.

    God Bless America

    June 1, 2008 12:52 am at 12:52 am |
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