If we can not have Hillary lets all who support her stay home in november or vote for McCain. Lets also change this country and start new vote out all incumnates. We need fresh blood in washington

Way to go! stand by the rules. I support ya.

You will see a voter back lash against the DNC and Presidential election come November - DNC has violated our fundamental right to vote, if Barak did not campaign or had his name in the ballot is irrevalent. The voters voted and that is what counts there is nothing more to say. Dean you will lose Florida and MI come November.

it is so unfair for Obama I am pray for Obama

Please count the votes!

I certainly pray that you-all will get this selection over with and move on to the General Election; because it is taking so long, Senator McCain is pulling ahead without contest. Please stop the Clinton Division and Striff. The Clintons and the Clinton Campaign are destroyers. Not just of America but the Democratic Party and Democrats in America. The Republicans are loving this and want it to go on past the Convention. Please get it together. I myself and my family members already will not vote in November if Clinton is the nominee. With just my family on my side not my husbands there are 1800 of us that are registered voters. There are more on my husbands.I believe more than 5000.

Yes, Ickes: How do you define "Voters reflection in a FLAWED primary"? Unless you knew the well-known candidate, Clinton, got more votes whethere there were campaigns or not and now take advantage of it. if it is not Clinton, the Rules Committee wouldn't have sitting today. Get over it Ickes, you want disunity by arguing for a normal primary where there was none?

Zero delegates is what Florida and Michigan should get. To count any of their delegates would be to cheat the other 48 states who played by the rules.

Who do these elites think they are to say or tell what states should go first and then penalize them if they don't follow their rules. I don't belong to them and I didn't elect them for my state representative. A state should hold it's election by asking the people to vote on the date it wants to hold them. If either party doesn't like it and wants to play these political games it is simple , have a special recall election , recall them and put some indepedents on the ballot that represents the state instead of the party. If that don't work ,vote the party who played that game out of office and put in the opposing party. Heck we survived eight lousy years what is two or six years more to get rid of these tactic's . I guarrantee you that if you stand up to these professional politicians and they see them kush jobs going away, they will fold.

I understand the punishment. But the decision to move the primaries to a date that caused the penalty was done my the republicans which out voted the democrats. Should the people be penalized for the republicans? I think not! It is a disgrace what this country claims, freedome for all. I don't think the the people that voted feel this is just. OUR VOTES ALL SHOULD COUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did you also rule and make it clear to Hillary that she should go home and never appear in this race again. She is nothing but damage to the Democratic party

CNN- No wonder your network is losing ground to the other networks. Biased reporting. Hillary must have some pull with your network, there really isn't any other reason for you lack of objectivity. So sad.

Obama should leave the Democratic Party if he is not selected as the nominee!

GOES TO SHOW YOU HOW STUPID HERMAN IS AND WHAT COLOR WILL DO. The fault of FL's. early voting is with the Florida Rpublican Legislation and the people should not be punished. You People, and i mean you Herman a person of color only wantObama and for Hillary to have no chance at all. IT WILL NOT WORK TO UNIFY. SO DON'T ASK IF YOU GET YOU WAY.

In my opinion, ALL of the Delegates should be seated and counted as the voters intended.

What are they afraid of? Barack Hussein Obama CANNOT beat McCain in November, so I would hope that if the Democrat Party wants to take back the White House, then they need to give the nominee to Hillary Clinton, for she is the one that CAN beat McCain in November, and take back the White House.

Hillary Clinton 2008

It aint looking good for Hill-dawg. One question, though: why is Ickeys opening his mouth? Every time he does, the person he is questioning, makes him look like an idiot.

I am an independent voter, a woman, and a Floridian. As a single parent of two successful adults, and a retired university professor, I ask: "What kind of message are Clinton's women supporters sending to their children–break the rules and then act as though you are a victim?" I'm sad that Clinton places her power needs above the needs of this country's citizens. We really need change in Washington. Obama is the only person I will vote for. I trust that he will choose a VP who will complement him and be an independent and credible voice for this country and its people.

50/50 and get on with it.

They should be punished, they broke the rules. We all should follow the rules unless of course your the clintons who want rules bent or pushed aside in their favor.

Full reinstatement not on the table.? Now listen to the debate. Mrs. Clinton wants all the votes to count, EXCEPT those that are not for her. The rules were established and accepted by Mrs. Clinton, now RESPECT them. I do not want a president who lies through her teeth. None of the delegates in FL and MI should be seated.

Right to vote right to count because every one pay the taxes. If not count
Florida and Michigan now DO NOT let them vote in general election too.

The DNC is cutting it's own throat with their mess with regard to Florida and Michigan. The Michigan party chair has just presented his logic for dividing the delegates from his state. What a bunch of crap. He basically is saying that the votes cast should not be used, but exit polls should be used along with how he has devined what the write in ballots were, since they do not know what the write in ballots contained. This is the most obsurd argument I have heard yet! Just another example of the DNC trying to push forward one candidate over another and at least some of the committee seem to think so also. The DNC had better start thinking about the November election, about the person most likely to beat John McCain, and stop trying to rig this in favor of one candidate. If the votes that have been cast are not counted as they were cast, there will be a lot of disgruntled people NOT voting in November. The DNC had better think long and hard about changing the way they elect a candidate in the future. And by the way, since Senator Obama took his name off the ballot in Michigan, why should he be awarded any delegates? After all, rules are rules, according to his supporters, aren't they? I guess only some rules apply. I think the Superdelegates had better do some real thinking about November before a final candidate is chossen. Too many moderates will have a hard time supporting a candidate who is deemed to have as many questionable ties as the Senator from Illinois.

The rules committee are a bunch of jerks.

Seat all the delegates. Stop being worried about Obama.

Hillary all the way……………………..08……………………………

I applaud Alexis Herman statement on not considering a full reinstatement is not on the table. The RBC and the Democratic Party should not condone deliberate violators of the rules. Without rules their would be total anarchy.

Florida Democrats continually blames the Republican led government within Florida for them violating the rules. They did not have to go along with the Republicans, but choose to do so anyway. I am reconciled to no more than a 50/50 split for the Florida voters sake. The violation of Democratic Party rules is another example of the people suffering from Florida Democratic Party bad government decisions.

HRC supporters, you now see how deluded you've been… Not anyones fault but yours because you bought a LIE

while watching the cnn coverage of the Florida voters, vote being counted I noticed while Hillary Clinton`s repersentative was talking cnn broke away twice for commericals, but not once did cnn break away while Obama`s repersentative was talking. can you give me a reason for this??????………………….. i am a registered voter in the state of Florida.

Why not settle the Michigan and Florida dilemma in a way that perhaps comes closest to getting approval of the DNC, Hillary and Obama?
Select 3 major pollsters — the DNC, Obama and Hillary will each select one pollster. Each pollster will design a poll to reflect a high degree of accuracy. The three separate polls will be conducted in each state. The results of the three polls will be combined and averaged . For each state, apply the respective percentages reflected in the combined poll results to the total number of registered voters and the total number of delegates in that state. Add the results to the total popular vote and to the delegate count of each candidate. (Alternatively, conduct one jointly-developed poll and apply results as indicated above.)

they should not all be counted we have to relay to our children you live by rules, not break them

FL & MI should have not have been a
significant issue at all now.

No concession need to be made at all.

everything should stand as agreed.

While watching the broadcase of the DNC meeting, it's very clear that the people who were picked to sit inside were mostly Obama supporters. The Clinton supporter delegates inside the meeting were treated very disrespectfully, often were yelled at, and/or were dismissed entirely. Of course no one bothered to set limts on these Obama supporter delegates for their behavior.

I was hoping that the DNC rules committee meeting members would show some backbone and make this a fair meeting, but I'm very disappointed that they have chosen not to. They've always had Obama's back and they always will, no matter what it costs the democratic party in November. This is even more reason why there will be a revolution in November, during which time the true democratic voters who have been marginalized by the democratic party will have their final say……and the DNC can do nothing about it.

The Obama campaign may get a favorable ruling but in doing so, they have sealed the fate of the dem party this fall. If Fla and Mich are not seated 100%, its a violation of all things that the dem party used to stand for. Its easy to leave this new dem party.

Yes, 50/50 is the fairest for both Clinton and Obama. Clinton can't take advantage of being a very well-known candidate who benefitted from the "no campaign rule" then demand to get all the votes as is. The primary was skewed, not a true reflection of voters' intention.

Without even having seen anybody else's comments yet, I know there will be a lot of whining and crying about how evil Obama is blocking Florida and Michigan's votes, and how the cards were stacked against poor Hillary. But you should be able to see by now that this has nothing to do with Obama and everything to do with party rules. You can complain that the rules are no good, but you can't blame Obama for them. Just as Obama says, "You're entitled to your own opinion, but you're not entitled to your own facts."

Whenever anyone complains that the system was working against Hillary from the start and that "Obama and his thugs" (whatever that means) stole the nomination, they are trying to deceive us into thinking that Obama was the establishment candidate, and had the power and influence and name-recognition of an incumbent as if he were the spouse of a former president, and had a former president campaigning for him, while Hillary was the rookie and underdog - when in fact it was quite obviously the other way around. Hillary had all these things on her side and still lost. You can't just ignore caucus states and bawl about Florida and Michigan; you have no evidence of voter fraud or people being forced to vote for Obama. Face it - the majority of Democratic Primary voters wanted Obama, women as well as men, and Hillary lost, fair and square, with rules that have been in place for decades.

Obama follows rules. Clinton doesn't even recognize the concept of rules and what it means to follow them. Fairness isn't something that the Clintons value. They are willing to ignore anything that will prevent them from seizing power again. When she and her political allies eventfully lose I hope Obama leaves all of them out in the cold, no appointments for you idiots. I will enjoy watching Hillary and Bill kick and scream at the convention this August when they are finally told to go away. Clintons go away, far, far, away.

Don't give them a thing. They broke the rules.

Why make rules if you are just going to go back afterward and change them?

If you do that, why not start off with NO rules, then when everyone votes decide how to count them? That's just as ridiculous.

Punish the ones who broke the rules. I think every state should know that their superdelegates will lose their vote if they break the rules. Let the people's vote count and seat them representative of how they voted. It doesn't make sense to me to turn away from the voters. Punish the state's party leaders… they made the decision. Do not deny the people.

at this point I can no longer stand Clintons. Like she saidful delrgatesshouldn't even be the option!!! What kind of message vare we sending to other states?? When she was leadig by 100+ delegates MI and FL votes don't matter. Now that she is lossing, she's fighting for all of them to be sitted. I personally belive that since these states are huge, the MOST DNC can do is sit half delegats in each states and split these delegets fairly between the two candidates–50/50. The rules can't be bend just because THE CLINTONS are lossing.

Democrat's all the way to the White House!!!

And to those of you (especially) who are Clinton's supporter, I admire your dediction to you candidate, but voting for McCain if she's not the nominee is INSANE!

hmm lets see she is black may be thats why they all wont be seated.She probably goes to obamas church.

I applaud the ruling that nothing should be done. The party needs strength and cohesion to make best use of this favorable year. The glaring question is whether the Clinton campaign will use a ruling that is less than the (ridiculous) full reinstatement of all delegates to drag this on to the credentials committee in August. The Clinton team is apparently willing to sacrifice the party at all levels to drag this fight out, and the DNC committee must be prepared with a countermove, such as convening a special credential s committee meeting as soon as possible to put an end to the Clinton strategy, which is ripping the party in two. What we will learn from the response of the Clinton campaign is the full measure of Hillary's ambition, and the full measure of the Clinton's anger at having lost what seemed to be theirs just a few months ago. At this point, it would seem that she cannot do anything except destroy the party's chances by mobilizing the anger and frustration of her base. The party should make clear that if she so chooses, she will have zero support in 2012!

How would the Clintons act if Obama had wanted to change the rules at the tail end if the Clintons were leading. If this is not racism in the USA, what would it be

You are not punishing the STATES, You are punishing the People! How dare you!

I am not stupid. America you do the math on this 30 member dnc panel. 9 uncommitted delegates, 8 committed to obama, and 13 committed to clinton for a total of 30. Sounds like destruction in the making.

This is not a very proud moment for America. As I watched the heart felt pleading of those asking for a full delegate seating on CNN, I felt utterly sick and dismayed. Sick and dismayed that those who knew the rules, but decided in full conscience to go upon their own might and authority. The Floridians standing out in the street holding up sign, which actually read, “I'm a rule breaker, but never mind that, I should be treated equally to those who upheld the rules.”

Hillary Clinton’s plea that all delegates should be seated as is… and Obama shouldn't receive anything in MI because his name wasn't on the ballot. Yes, this woman is saying punish Obama for following the rules. It is beyond normal thought process how she would have the audacity to spew such a suggestion out of the rims of her mouth.

For all those who still support this woman, you are no better than the present administration. I was in complete support of Hillary continuing her race, but now I'm sick of it and wish she would show some respect to the will of the people. This race is bigger than her and Obama.

At this point I guess moving to Florida or Michigan wouldn't be a bad idea. One could break laws and when caught, argue to change them to benefit themselves. What great role model the adults, elected officials and all who live with in the boards of the states are to our children. Sick. Just sick.

Well, I am really glad that there is someone on the DNC that can "hold the line"…….Hillary Clinton would break all the rules, just the get the nomination, and she does not care what legacy that would give the party…..throw her out please! She is disgusting in her behavior and has no sense of propriety, why can't she abide by the rules?

Do you people who vote for her, really want her in the high office of President; when she won't abide/uphold rules/laws made ahead of time by others?

Good common sense and rules based which many bloggers have pointed out.
One error that constantly repeats itself is that many bloggers be they Obama or Clinton supporters, fail to differentiate between separate issues for the contest for the Democratic presidential Nominee.
1) Is the issue that delegates PD'S and SD's who will decide the ultimate nominee.
2) Popular vote is not an issue under the rules if any candidate has majority of one in 1 above. A respected and famous ex president said that.
3) 2 above could influence SD's which is Clintons argument and also the so called swing states she won? How she or Bill or SD's can predict based on primaries or caucuses how those full democratic electorates will vote, is beyond anyones comprehension and the polls have been so wrong in this democratic campaign.
If you want to bend rules at all:
a) Ban the M and Fl superdelegates only.
b) Michigan 50/50 Uncommitted did not vote for HRC for sure.
c) Florida as voted under DNC rules.
d) allocate popular vote based on b&c pledged delegates.
Cuts out legal challenges from states, and settles issues on popular vote. Will the DNC have the cajones to do that? I think not unfortunately.
The only issue left then is do the M & Fl PD's vote 100 or 50 answer follow the DNC rules Otherwise it is all nonsense.
Regards,
Hodgson.

All of the talk and rhetoric by the Clinton camp about how the Florida and Michigan delegates should be fully seated has all been exaggeration and misleading propaganda.
As we'll all see at the end of this meeting, Hillary Clinton's claims on those delegates have always been unfounded.
She'll have a wake up call after this meeting.

I do feel for her ardent supporters. They have been fooled by her campaign into believing that there was actually a legitimate argument to give her all of the delegates. And, now they will presumably feel ripped off. Their heightened emotions over this issue have been completely spurred on by a Clinton campaign who has had no concern for how abandoned these women would feel once everything was all said and done. They stirred these supporters up and got them believing there was actually some way for her to win. Well, what are their plans for talking these ladies down now that reality is unfolding in front of them? Nothing. The Clintons are happy to leave these ladies behind.

Ah, but Harold "Icky" disagrees. If he has his way, this will go to the Credentials Committee.

At the convention.

In August.

End this. Today.

I think that's fair. If you have rules you must follow them Mrs. Clinton agree then she changed her mind after she found herself losing. She is all about herself it sad because she really needs to come together so when can win the White house in Novemeber. If it was her she would not compromise because she is very selfish. She is dividing the women, men, and this country because of her selfish ways. I would care if it was her or Obama as the nominate. The point is we will all be poor if we let McCain win. Please unite and stop the madness. Geraldnine Ferro is not helping her some please stop that crazy B……..

We know that Hillary dosn't play well with others, so, this mean war.

The battle will continue until no Democrat is left standing.

I fully agree with this woman

Rules are Rules you break them you pay. What will we be teaching our children if them (especially since many of the young generation have been following this election) if the states that violated the rules are not penalized for their infraction?

Like children these states tested the boundaries set, to see what will happen. If they do not get punished for it, they will be uncontrollable next time and perhaps other states may even join in. The only sadness in all of this is that the voters are penalized as well.

There are no easy solutions here, its like a drunken driver who crashes into another car, injuring people in that car as well as themself. When rules are broken innocent people are sometimes caught in the middle. It is true and unfortunate.

Irrespective of what penalizing these states will do to the Democratic Party, the integrity of the process (meaning the rules) has to be adhered to. It is not pretty but when a child is punished for doing something wrong, it is to deter that child and all the others from repeating the same thing and ensuring that order not anarchy rules.

Anyone who thought that they were going to seat her full delegate count is either illiterate, or is living in a bubble.

The DVC cannot change its rules just to give Hillary the win….THAT WOULD BE CHEATING.

Count the delegates at half but count them. I was reading the Pfleger blog and was surprised by the number of educated Obalegerwright supporters who are unaware of the Catholics leagues critisim of Hagee? These are the so called educated voters? Educated, yet not informed? Obalegerwright is a liar and very disloyal to his friends for political gain. Is there anyone he won't throw under the bus? We now have two 20 year friendships under the bus and his white grandmother. How can you know someone 20 years and not have a clue as to their thoughts on matters? You can be fooled about some things, but not the basics!

Some of the testimony being given would make it appear that the Democrat's problem in Florida is a "Right wing conspiracy" to steal their right to seat delegates at the Democratic National Convention. If in fact the Republican controlled Florida legislature conspired to do this, why is it that the Republican Party has penalized its convention delegates from Florida 50%, as opposed to the Democrats 100%, for moving their primary ahead as well? Nobody on the committee has asked that question. Secondly Senator Nelson, a Hillary Clinton supporter, never answered Mr. McDonald's question about whether or not the vote to authorize the January 29th was strictly along party lines in both the Florida Senate and House or did some Democrats knowingly vote to move up the primary because the bill was more about voting machines having a paper trail? I would like to see the vote count on that bill from both houses and I would suspect the answer is yes, some did vote in favor of moving the date up. I remember clearly hearing the Democratic Party Chair of Florida argue on CNN that Florida had the right to move up their primary last fall. Is that fact forgotten on this committee as well?

next time, nix the primary process, and

LET THE PEOPLE VOTE and decide ONCE AND FOR ALL.

why do we need any rule, other than every vote counts and every one votes?

No one seems to be addressing the fact that Florida and Michigan were under penalty before the vote took place. As a result some of the candidates did not run a full engaging campaign in those states and the vote results reflect that. In my opinion it is an unjust balance to represent the results in those states as a correct representation of the people.

Time to rally around our nominee. President Barack Obama

OBAMA 08 & 12

I hope I am not the only one watching the RBC televised hearings that sees:

1. a dysfunctional party that can't run its own internal affairs, much less a country
2. a gaggle of people who feel more than think
3. a perfect example of situational ethics and moral, judicial and legal relativism at its zenith
4. rationalization run amok

God help us if we are stupid enough to let these people run anything.

Laws are made to be follewed and not broken, Its sad that Clinton at one time was for the law and when found struggling she now wants the law to change for her.

DNC please look at what is fair and lets unite once and for all.

The DNC has spoken. The people will speak on the first Tuesday in November. The constitution gives the power to the people, ALL of the people. Democracy is just a word to the DNC hierarchy. And they expect loyalty and unity from the people who believe in democracy?Think about it and practice sayiing President McCain.

Dean also to be blamed for this fiasco that damaging the reputation of Democrats. Why dont you show openly the signed agreement of all the Presidential candidates that goes back when this election season first started. Florida Democratic Reps are a shameful lot for such an ineffective way of managing…Thats why Republicans are leading in Florida.

That's absolutely right. I didn't vote because it wasn't supposed to count. I don't care what Billary's supporters say. I don't accept the disenfranchisement of voters that didn't go to the booths that day. YOU CAN'T DECLARE A WINNER IN A CONTEST WHERE NO ONE COMPETED. That may be the way Clinton wants to "win" these two states, but that is as undemocratic as it is un-American.

Let her people answer this: If it's not acceptable to disenfranchise voters in FL and MI, why is ok to do it to the dozen or so caucus states? She conveniently ignores the popular vote in these states too. Where is her morality and ethics here? I'll tell you where. It's taken a back to her ambitions where she will say and do anything to win. And the kicker is….it's all one the public record.

I think America is ready for a woman President, it's just not ready for her.

Interesting… an Obama supporter says no full seating. This country must look like a joke to the rest of the world. I also like how the Obama supporter calls an out of order and refuses to allow a question. The Democratic Party…. democracy doesn't matter to our voters.

This is the best place I could think to make a post on this…But am I the only 20-something who thinks Donna Brazile is a freaking fox?!?

This whole thing is a train wreck for the Democrat party.

Personally, I don't see what this issue is. Back when this whole Florida/Michigan thing started, Hillary Clinton agreed that their votes would be forfeited. As she fell behind in delegates, she changed her mind and now wants to change the rules. Even worse, she wants to change the rules in a way that benefits her completely.

She agreed and signed on the dotted line to how things ought to be handled. She should be held to her word. Her motivations are clear. Her methods are dishonest. The RBC needs to think hard about what kind of precedent they are setting if they change the rules after everyone agreed at the outset.

If they want to change the rules now, then the whole primary needs to be re-run with every candidate that dropped out allowed back in again.

Democratic Party Th eparty of the greedy liberal socialist who screws over all who vote for them.

Maybe This Commitee Has More Backbone Than I Thought!

Floridas Democratic political representatives to the government in Florida are total disgrace. Not only is it a reflection of laziness but ineffectiveness and thats why the Republicans have taken the lead for over 100 years. If the Republicans have done well over the years so which party is clearly far more "stupid and ineffective" and therefore most in Florida have voted in a Republican party…Today, the problem the DNC has is a result of the stupid democratic politicians of Florida.

I am a Floridian and used to be a very loyal Democrat. I have always voted Democrat and contributed even when I was young and couldn't afford much. However, if only half of my vote is counted I will vote for only half of the slate. I will not vote for Obama , I am a woman, do not iron shirts for any man and I do cry, but I will vote for every other Democrat on the ticket. I do not appreciate the ridicule heaped on Mrs.Clinton. I take it personally and am actively campaigning against Obama.

ELECTION PREDICTION:
If Obama wins……Obama 53% McCain 47%
If Hillary wins…… Hillary 51% McCain 49%

IF THE SUPERDELEGATES OVERTURN THE PLEDGE DELEGATES…………….
Hillary 27% McCain 63%

HILLARY KNEW THE RULES AND AGREED WITH THEM.

ABIDE BY THEM OR GET OUT OF THE RACE!

NO MORE GAMES..

THE CLINTON DYNASTY IS OVER!

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!

You break the rules, you pay the price. Tell the Michigan and Florida voters that if they were really serious about having their votes count, they would have taken steps to see that their primaries were held properly. Stop whining and get over it!

It is a sad message that Florida and Michigan portrayed when they violated the DNC rules by voting earlier than the February 5, 2008 date established by the DNC.

DNC's Bylaws and Rules Committee stick to your guns as you have the right to penalize those states that do not conform with the rules that the DNC has established.

Thanks.

At the time of the Florida Primary, Barack Obama was not yet a household name. That Primary illustrated basically a name recognition contest, a contest which obviously strongly favored Hillary Clinton. Despite a candidate agreement not to campaign in Florida and Michigan, Clinton made at least 3 and possibly 4 fundraising trips to Florida, each of which was covered by the media. Video clips showed large Hillary signs and banners. I wonder where those signs came from, if there was no campaigning?

Herman - Taking the stance you propose penalizes noone but the voters who took the time to go to the polls when THEY WERE TOLD TO! You do not get it - this is a democracy where the will of the people should prevail not what committee and officials scheduling primaries decide. Count the votes from Florida and Michigan!

Hillary's people have transitioned into republicans……I want what I want no matter who it hurts and how badly the country is affected. Where's Nixon when you need him?

I still do not understand why and how the FL dems can be punished for something the Reps who control their state legislature did. This is so weird it could only happen to Dems who continue to shoot themselves in the foot every time they get the advantage.

The BEST the DNC could muster for an IMPARTIAL Panel to rule on a important issue that will make or break HRC is a FORMER CLINTON CABINET MEMBER as Co-Chair????

50% of the delegates, split based upon what Hillary and Barack's current national standing, delegate-wise is, seems about the only way to be fair.
Since we can never know how many would have voted for Barack, it's almost impossible to divvy the delegates based on what might have been. Since Hillary and Barack are very close in percentages, nationally, it would probably come out to around 50/50. Seems fair to me. Let's make the decision, and get on with life. This discussion is a well-beaten dead donkey….

I love Bill Nelson and Arthenia Joyner - what TREMENDOUS ADVOCATES OF THE PEOPLE!

COUNT THE VOTES OF THE VOTERS OF FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN!

The WILL OF THE DEMOCRATIC VOTERS in this country is for Hillary Clinton to be our Party's nominee. She has received the MOST VOTES of The People of this nation.

Hillary Clinton is our nominee.

Did I read that clearly that she is a former Clinton cabinet official that penalized Michigan and Floriday? Man I thought Obama was oppressing everybody. Man when you get the facts you know who is the problem. READ PEOPLE!

The Democratic Rules and Bylaws Committee should protect the voters of Florida against the Republican leadership that caused their votes to be taken away.

THAT is the RESPONSIBILITY of the the DNC. Protect the voters!

OK So reduce the delegates to 50% of the elected number and move on. Right now people are getting tired of this mess.

OH NO, OFCOURSE NOT!!!!!!!!! THAT WOULD BE THE RIGHT THING TO DO, AND IN TURN, GIVE HILLARY THE VOTES SHE DESERVES. THE PARTY IS ((((( IN LOVE ))))) WITH BARAK OBAMA, AND THEY ARE NOT ABOUT TO DO ANYTHING TO TAKE AWAY HIS EDGE IN THE CAMPAIGN.

GO AHEAD AND BLATANTLY FAVOR OBAMA………………………………….

GO AHEAD AND DISCOUNT FLORIDA, MICHIGAN, AND MILLIONS OF HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTERS……………………………………………

GO AHEAD AND SAY GOODBYE TO ANY CHANCE FOR HAVING A DEMOCRAT IN THE WHITE HOUSE IN NOVEMBER………………………

I believe that Hillary is the beginning of the end of the Democrats. She is very self-serving, she put herself before the team. & we Democrats will pay the price. If she would have dropped out while the party was still semi together we would have united by now. NOW there will be a divide that our party will have a hard time recovering from. Democrats out smarted themselves. GREAT another 4 years of BUSH. Don't be surprised if she runs as an independent. That's how mush she feels entitled to the throne.

Sincerely,
a heartland, blue collar democrat

Did the delegations "that knew" there would be severe consequences inform the MI and FL electorate their votes wouldn't count, allow them to weigh in as to what they wanted to do? This is about each and every American voter, boys and girls, it's now about the surest path to an Obama presidency.

Any reinstatement would mean that to play by the rules is to get cheated. Your democracy at work!

Herman can say what she wants, but the Democrats are violating a few dozen civil rights laws that say ever vote must count.

This big deal is mainly caused by Clinton. She is going to put the Democratic party down the tubes. Stirring the pot, causing people to take sides Dem vs Rep. because she had to make a huge issue.

She agreed with everyone that votes were not going to be counted and that they were not going to campaign in those states then turns around and does the opposite. She plays whatever card suits her to win and twisting the rules around. She says she won and has the popular vote yet Obama never campaigned in those states nor had his name on ballot in Michigan. You cannot CLAIM something that was not fairly done to begin with.

Hillary is really tearing up the party and I wont put it past her to start more stuff after she is told to step down and shut up. She will do something to ruin it for all Democrats.

One national primary is what we need. Not honoring the results in Michigan and Florida is a slap in the face of all Democrats, and Americans for that matter, not just those voting in the two states. I am now searchng for a candidate to vote for. It won't be Obama, it can't be McClain. I can't believe that for the first presidential election since I turned 21, that's 10 now, I might be staying home. My own little silent protest.

I love Bill Nelson and Arthenia Joyner - what TREMENDOUS ADVOCATES OF THE PEOPLE!

COUNT THE VOTES OF THE VOTERS OF FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN!

The WILL OF THE DEMOCRATIC VOTERS in this country is for Hillary Clinton to be our Party's nominee. She has received the MOST VOTES of THE PEOPLE of this nation.

Hillary Clinton is our nominee!

We've been punished enough! The Dem party will suffer greatly in November if they don't seat our delegations in FULL. So let them shoot themselves in the foot. I'll be right here in the Fall to say: "I told you so".

The delegates from Michigan and Florida should be seated - there is no doubt about that. However, this should be done in a way that does not alter or jeopordize the results of the whole process. So, you agree to the set rules of the competition. At the beggining it is all OK. When you sense the your nomination is in danger, you want to bend the same rules that you sign so that the nomination is delivered to you in a sliver plate - that is not the america I know and that is not how Washington should be run. In the white we need to see more transparency, truth, trust and accountability.Hilary should also respect the rules and those that did not vote.

Hilary Clinton proposal is mean, calculating and clearly is intended to used by the campaign to legitimize the argument that she better electable, got the popular votes and should be the nominee. If Obama campaigned in FLorida and Michigan, these figures would not as-is, just think PA, he was 25 points before campaign, later 9.3 points down after campaign, Texas 20 points before campaign and 3.6 points down after the campaign.

Hilary Clinton proposal is selfish and indicates how obsessed she is with the nomination - as much as people respect her spirit of fighting back, this is an example of exploiting a situation to her advantage. Clintons wants this nomination whatsoever, sad. It is not about Hilary becoming the president, but about the Democratic taking over the whites and working to get this country back on her feet in November. I wonder what has become of the Clintons

ALL OVER 3 MORE DAYS GO OBAMA WIth a +206 lead !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The rules should be imply as it stands. All campaign party's knew the rules and signed documents with full knowlege of the consequences. Obama obieded by the rules whether he was winning or losing. Obama didn'change the goal post. Hillary Clinton has tried all kinds of tricks to put herself in the lead since Feb 5th. She has lost this race fair and sqaure. No one didn't treat her any kind of way. She brought this on herself and so did Bill. Hillary Clinton ran a horrible campaign, plain and simple.

Obama is the true victor in the race. Let him proceed on the next level. Please….DNC .

This is all going to end in very bad taste and the whole process is going to make the USA look even worse than ever.

The DNC will pander to HRC as most of those "high up" in the DNC did not expect or want Obama to be the nominee. At the time, no one was worried 'cos HRC was ahead. Now those in power in the DNC see the FL and MI case(s) as one last chance to help HRC over the top, which is what was "planned" and "expected" all along - her being the nominee that is.

Somehow, HRC is going to be "given" the nomination in spite of being beaten and it'll all be made to look "right" and "legal" following a new interpretation of the "rules".

Obama is the USA's best hope to move forward and from the brink of falling into a very dark period but he'll be ousted by the more "powerful" and the world will look on and groan and laugh (maybe) and loose even more respect for a once all-powerful nation.

Oh how the mighty fall. Not just Clinton, McCain, Obama but the USA as a whole.

Sad, but the whole world still looks on with a little hope and faith.

Well Hillary,

As the Bible states, "No weapon formed against us shall prosper." Join us at the Convention in restoring the Democratic Party to prominence and take your rightful place as Senator from NY

OBAMA 08

LETS THROW OUT ALL THE RULES EVERYWHERE……..

* No more traffic lights…..
* You can cheat on you neighbors paper….
* No more nine innings play until YOU win….
* Forget about the Geneva convention rules……
* Get your high school diploma after your freshman year….
* Commit a crime and you dont go to jail………
* Lose an election and cheat and lie and destroy your party……..

OBAMA: THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!!!!!!!