June 1, 2008
Posted: 11:20 AM ET

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Some Clinton backers said Saturday they're voting for McCain.
Some Clinton backers said Saturday they're voting for McCain.

WASHINGTON (CNN) – Democratic leaders hopeful that a deal to seat delegates from Florida and Michigan would mark an end to the deep division the controversy has brought to the party got some instant – and less than encouraging – feedback as they finalized the measure Saturday evening.

As members of the Democratic National Committee's Rules and Bylaws panel voted in favor of the measures, some supporters of Hillary Clinton's White House bid rose from their seats and began to shout “Don’t steal my vote!” and “Let’s go, McCain!”

Several paced the back of the ballroom, yelling at the committee members and chanting “Denver! Denver!” – the site of this summer's Democratic presidential nominating convention.

When Barack Obama’s name was mentioned, boos filled the room.

"This motion will hijack, hijack, remove four delegates won by Hillary Clinton and most importantly reflect the preferences of 600,000 Michigan voters,” said Clinton senior adviser and RBC member Harold Ickes, who added that the White House hopeful reserved her right to bring an appeal before the DNC's Credentials Committee later this summer.

The delegate allocations were a blow to Clinton, who comes away with an advantage of just 24 delegates.

She is favored in Sunday’s Puerto Rico primary. But Obama is thought to hold an edge going into next Tuesday’s contests in Montana and South Dakota – meaning Clinton’s chances of pushing Obama’s delegate lead down into the double digits before the Democratic convention have virtually disappeared.

After the vote, as knots of Clinton and Obama supporters circled each other and faced off in the lobby outside the ballroom, uncommitted Florida superdelegate Mitch Caesar – who said he would weigh in soon after the last primary Tuesday — praised the party for “taking the first step toward unity.”

Nearby, Obama supporter Laura Mitchell wasn’t so sure the party had started down the path to comity. “I think it’s going to be a disaster if this goes past Tuesday,” said the Maryland resident. “Every day it gets a little harder to imagine we will be able to come together.”

Boston native and Clinton backer Jenny Doggett, an organizer of grassroots group Count the Votes Cast, called the DNC “spineless.”

“I think what they’ve done is divisive, destroying the party. I’m disgusted,” said Doggett, who expressed hope that the popular vote in Puerto Rico and a shift in superdelegates might still be able to deliver the nomination to Hillary Clinton. “I’m done with the Democratic Party,” she added. “I’m an independent voter now.”

The Rules committee ultimately adopted modified versions of a Florida delegate proposal presented by Jon Ausman, and the Michigan Leadership Plan developed by Democratic officials in that state.

All delegates from both states, both pledged and superdelegates, will be seated – but each will only be able to cast half a vote. Florida’s delegates were split The decision adds 313 new delegates, but only 156.5 votes, to the summer convention, and raises the number of delegates required to win the nomination to 2,118.

The Florida proposal was passed unanimously by the panel – but faced a rockier reception on the Michigan plan, which employed a complicated and controversial delegate allocation formula that awarded a 10 delegate, 5 vote edge to Clinton.

The Clinton campaign later released a statement from Ickes and fellow Clinton adviser and RBC member Tina Flournoy that said the Michigan decision “violates the bedrock principles of our democracy and our Party,” and repeated their willingness to challenge the decision before the delegation is seated at the Democratic National Convention.

The Obama campaign released a statement from campaign manager David Plouffe praising the RBC decision. “We're extremely gratified that the commission agreed on a fair solution that will allow Michigan and Florida to participate in the Convention,” said Plouffe.

At a press conference at the hotel following the final vote, a skeptical reporter pressed Alexis Herman on her claim that the panel’s decision would unite the party. As Herman responded, chants of “Denver! Denver!” could be heard from the lobby outside.

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Lucky Ali   June 1st, 2008 3:49 pm ET

I support Obama….he will negotiate with Iran and hopefully Iran will continue its peaceful development…….he will also support hamas cause of fight……so again good………world peace

debono   June 1st, 2008 3:47 pm ET

Clinton you must continue to fight. You are the better candidates

Claudia   June 1st, 2008 3:46 pm ET

I think that Hillary was more than lucky to get any delegates or votes in Florida and Michigan. Does this mean that we the public doesn't have to follow the laws laid down for us. This is outrageous. I can hardly believe this has been done. It sends a terrible message to the group of young voters out there. What an example.

Ben in TX   June 1st, 2008 3:43 pm ET

If following the rules is so upsetting for the HRC campaign, I think the the rules panel should meet to impose the origional penalty for MI. It's four delegates that will mean absloutly nothing after Wed.

Karen   June 1st, 2008 3:42 pm ET

VOTE TO END VOTER FRAUD IN FLORIDA—-

SORRY, YOUR VOTE WON'T COUNT.

G. Rodden   June 1st, 2008 3:27 pm ET

The more I see of of the vindictiveness, the shouting of Clinton supporters, the more resonable Rev. pfleger seems. Their attitude of 'I'm not going to get what I want so I'm going to have a tantrum and vote McCain' proves Pfleger right, despite him being completely over the top.

Denise   June 1st, 2008 3:26 pm ET

The Hillary supporters are not democratic. They easily forget the main issues affecting this country!! High gas prices, recession, Iraq, rising unemployment, healthcare. They would be careless to vote for another Bush term. Everything that Hillary and Obama are fighting for will go out the window.

Bri   June 1st, 2008 3:24 pm ET

hillary supportors need to understand you can't campigne without rules. Rules are not meant to be broken and if they are broken the parties deserve to be punished.

Frank   June 1st, 2008 3:22 pm ET

Apparently Hillary Clinton wants the legacy of spoiling a Democratic victor in November

justin   June 1st, 2008 12:52 pm ET

donna4hillary:

I Absolutely cannot believe that you just stated that Obama

"refused his mothers race and decided to be black"

This is laughable, have you ever read a book lady?

Mike, Vicksburg, MI   June 1st, 2008 12:52 pm ET

Now I know why the kids at school are so shocked when rules are applied. They aren't bad kids, they just don't understand, after watching their parents, that rules are made for everyone - you break them, you have a consequence.

There are two special interest groups in this fray and one or the other was bound for disappointment - which wouldn't have needed to happen if either state's Democratic party had followed the rules.

Once upon a time, I admired the Clintons. I voted for him twice and did so happily. I spoke up when others attacked Hillary. I began this primary season thinking that Clinton/Obama would be the greatest ticket ever offered in human history. NOW, I am sickened by the whining, the poor sportsmanship, and the integrity of Hillary who said in the last week that she would abide by the decision of the DNC rules committee. I almost throw the remote at the TV when the self-righteous Harold Ickes announced the right to reserve the challenge.

Anony-mouse   June 1st, 2008 12:52 pm ET

Do any hardcore Clinton supporters realize that the Republican National Committee *also* punished FL and MI by halving their delegate votes?

Ignorance is usually bliss, but in this case it is just nuts!

bob   June 1st, 2008 12:52 pm ET

Unlike most of you leaving comments, I live in Florida and voted. I wonder why Obama didn’t put his name on the ballot in Florida and Clinton did. If he doesn’t care about Florida voters in the primary then he surely won’t care in November. If he gets the nomanation I will vote for McCain and most of the people I talk to in my state feel as I do.

John W., Milwaukee, WI   June 1st, 2008 12:52 pm ET

If the RBC or the DNC thinks this is the best way to create UNITY within the Democratic Party and RUSH to force Superdelegates to declare for Senator Obama on Tuesday, they have another thought coming!

Dean, Reid, Pelosi, Brazile, et al of you Elites are simply giving John the election in November!

What part of Senator Obama can't win in November don't you understand?

They are discraceful!

John CCain will be honored to receive my vote; I will be honored to give it to him!

Phishmelt   June 1st, 2008 12:52 pm ET

ok, so keep attacking those who won't vote for obama because they truly believe in hillary. is it possible that many of us just don't believe that obama represents the democratic party. i don't think he does. he is using republican measures to win. republicans win by disqualifying the others vote instead of getting more votes yourself. i would personally vote for the Green Party vs the republican styled obama.

Truth be Told!   June 1st, 2008 12:52 pm ET

It's ironic that we still have the Democratic Obama supporters after what occured yesterday still shouting about the rules. The rules broken and the punishment are clear a 50% deduction in their deleagtes. That is fine, what I have a problem with and every Demorat should, is that a rules & bylaws committee ave delegates that were won by another based on a legitimate primary in Michigan. The only falw in that primary was that 4 other nominees removed their name form the ballot by their own choice. Then theDNC in Michigan, along with the Omana and Edwards campaigned for a uncommitted voye from their supporters. In our charter "Uncommited" i a valid canidate, they receive their own delegates ame as thoe named on the ballot. By our Rules & Bylaw committe not only went againt their own rules, they made some up, which including going against the actual primary vote and basically guessing by using mutliple sources, including exit polls. What? In the next election based on thi precident, they Rules& Bylaws committe or any other DNC commitee could including any eveidence to make their case even wiuth rules that address the circumstances being evaluaded.

fouzi   June 1st, 2008 12:52 pm ET

its time to take the rabid dog put it beside the whole she has dug, and pause and reflect. This animal has just bit your child(democracy),BANG

jj   June 1st, 2008 12:52 pm ET

yeah, race has nothing to do with this election.

Disgusted New Dem   June 1st, 2008 12:52 pm ET

4 delegates?

That's what everybody is ticked off about? Even if Hillary had those 4 'highjacked' delegates - more generously- even if she got Michigan's delegates and Obama got none, Obama would still be ahead and would most likely cross the finish line on Tuesday. So what's the big deal? Give them to her and she'll still lose.

Not because anything was stolen from her. But because she actually did think she was entitled to the nomination. Case in point - she hadn't planned anything past Super Tuesday. She thought she'd be taking her victory lap in February. Her 'strategy' has always been to count only those states that 'mattered' to her. The 'big' states. the non-caucus states, the states that end in 'S', or whatever the measure is of the day.

THAT is why she is not going to be the nominee. Not because of anything the RBC or DNC did. Not becuase of anything Obama did or didn't do. Not because of the media or the pundits or the vast LEFT-wing conspiracy. It's her fault and no one else's.

And out of curiosity, how many people showed up to protest her comments last year when she said 'Clealy this election they're having isn't going to count for anything' ? How many people were outraged then? Or thought their vote was being treated the same as a slave's vote? Was anyone crying disenfranchisement then?

Wake up. She only cared when she was losing. She only cared when she absolutely needed you. And if this had ended in Feb. as she had thought, the RBC wouldn't even have been petitioned.

Tina   June 1st, 2008 12:52 pm ET

I am soooo tired of people saying that "it's about race" in this election.

People get your head out of the toilet and and look at the facts.

Obama is using EVERY dirty trick out there to disgrace Clinton, but whats new? EVERY election has people bringing out the bad things that he or she EVER did, instead of focusing on the TRUE issues. If we look at the records FAIRLY we can see Clinton has more experience than Obama, but will the USA do that FAIRLY? NO WAY IN HELL!!

So, yes IF AND when Clinton gets defeated ( cause the ruling was UNFAIR) I too will be switching my VOTE to McCain and not out of spite, but BECAUSE HE has the MOST experience between him and Obama.

Richard Marks   June 1st, 2008 12:51 pm ET

Clinton and McCain are the same. Just the same old scum that has been running the show for decades: McCain is just more of W and
Clinton is just . . . well . . . Clinton. Who cares who is elected godfather between these two?

Rockbmg1   June 1st, 2008 12:51 pm ET

I really can't wait to see what happens when the Clinton backers vote for McCain…

I will be watching it from Canada…because I will not be here to see the third Bush term that is the McCain Presidency. Clinton tried to take advantage of flawed decisions in MI and FL. Had she played by the rules, then maybe she would already be out the race. I've never seen a canidate so defiant when defeat is so probable. I wish she and Ickes would just go away. Bill Clinton isn't coming back, folks. Jump on the Obama train and ride into DC!

Karl Emmerich   June 1st, 2008 12:51 pm ET

As a Hillary Clinton supporter and a Democrat, I'm voting McCain. Obama's potential of combining vision with experience may one produce a viable candidate. Today, however, I'm afraid only Hillary and McCain have both. How about a McCain / Clinton 'non-partisan' ticket?

Missy, South Carolina   June 1st, 2008 12:51 pm ET

Hey TrueBlue is Hillary raising money for the fight at the convention? If so please let me know why? She is suppose to be helping to unite the Democratic Party once FL and MI was seated. They are seated so what is the problem now?

MCD, San Francisco, CA   June 1st, 2008 12:51 pm ET

If you vote McCain you get:

Years & years of more US troops dying in Iraq AND Iran.
Even Higher Gas Prices which equals High Prices on EVERYTHING
Less Money to support yourselves in retirement.
Higher Medical costs
No Government accountibility
More Big Business hand-in-hand with More Big Government.
More lobbyist running OUR goverment.
Feel good about slapping down those "Obama people"

If you vote Obama (democrat) you get:

To at least hope that he will be able to change at least some of the problems above that the republicans in power of rained down upon this country.

Seems an easy choice to me.

Charlotte carver   June 1st, 2008 12:51 pm ET

What a group of spoilports! I am a Clinton supporter…and if she does not get the nomination I will vote for Obama….I do not want another four years of Republican mismanagement…..I would hope that all democrats would unite and elect the nominee of the Deml.party.
Two states held early primaries in spite of being told they should not….now, they want it to be forgiven and votes counted….Pleeze!
Democrats must unite and get the White House back! Ånd, common sense!

Mary Plante   June 1st, 2008 12:51 pm ET

I fit the profile of the angry Clinton supporters, white female over 50 from a union household. I'm confident that women like me will support the Democratic candidate. None of us will risk reversing Roe v Wade. If nothingg else that will bring most women of my generation to the polls for Obama. We know that McCain wants to undo the battles we fought in the 1970s and we won't let that happen.

Pat Brendel   June 1st, 2008 12:51 pm ET

Hillary has stoked the fires that have created followers who would rather vote for McCain, a man that cannot possibly agree with, than Obama who is so much more in line with their ideals. That would be tantamount to throwing themselves and everyone else off a cliff. If Hillary's people truly believe in the philosophy of the Democratic Party, if they can see the damage done to this country in the last 8 years of Republican rule, if they can think of our country and not just their own hurt feelings, there is no way they could vote for McCain in good conscience. That would be biting off your nose to spite your face. It would be a lose - lose situation. I hope that after the smoke clears, level heads will prevail, and they will do what they know in their hearts is the right thing.

cindy   June 1st, 2008 12:51 pm ET

I will have a tough decision in November if Obama is the nominee. I am a diehard card-carrying democrat but have never been so disgusted with party leaders as I have been during this campaign; from the way Florida and Michigan are being handled to the superdelegates who switched their vote based on the flavor of the month. I'll either vote for McCain or not vote for the presendential office at all - neither option is a good one.

After further review,Texas.   June 1st, 2008 12:51 pm ET

Sounds just like a woman,"my way or the highway".This has become all emotion and no logic.

Platypus   June 1st, 2008 12:39 pm ET

I still believe Clinton will pull it off to a nomination.

But nationally, it will be McCain.

to Denver   June 1st, 2008 12:39 pm ET

Obama ran a tv ad in Florida he broke the rules and got a prize!
It will be a pleasure to leave the dems, it has become a far -left we hate America party. THEY ARE A JOKE!!!!

Mayra   June 1st, 2008 12:38 pm ET

yup true if Clinton loses McCain has got my vote 100%…sorry Obama you dont meet this country's standards….

Ram   June 1st, 2008 12:38 pm ET

I hope this will be music to Clinton's ears! What a disgusting woman!! She exactly accomplished what she hoped for : divide the party.

Ron   June 1st, 2008 12:36 pm ET

Hillary clinton should stand up as an Independant. We cannot afford this country to go to the dumps again.!!! Hillary 08

Eric   June 1st, 2008 12:35 pm ET

McCain/Clinton Ticket

If McCain really wants to win he would choose Hillary as his VP choice. All he has to say is that he is a "uniter" and all Hillary has to to say is she agrees about real "Change" and they can work together to resolve the Iraq conflict. Hillary would bring in the moderate Democrats for McCain and he wins. The extreme conservatives can stay home, because they would not vote for Obama and they would not cause a problem even if they go Libertarian. Hillary has a shoe in for presidents spot in 8 years. If Hillary doesn't take VP, she has no other chance for President, because her worst case scenario is Obama does 8 years and his vp pick does another 8 years. Her best scenario is in 8 years. Hillary would not dare run against an incumbent democratic president and if Obama loses in 4 years to a Republican she has to wait that term out to run again.

It's all about how bad they want it. McCain and Hillary 2008.

vicky   June 1st, 2008 12:35 pm ET

Let me see: first Hillary said she would have voted against NAFTA if she could have foreseen the results.Next she would not have voted for the war in Iraq in hindsight. Then she gets all her supporters upset over MI & Fla saying that they would be disenfranchised when she first agreed to this procedure. What next? Will she go back on her word when she promised to campaign for the winner? We shall see that too. Good luck to!

Stan   June 1st, 2008 12:35 pm ET

Hillary's Campaign promised 10,000 supporters at this "Rally" - 300 showed up.

I think this is an accurate reflection of how many of the die hard supporters the Clintons really have - despite what you might think reading these "Comments" sections.

SilvanoNPG   June 1st, 2008 12:35 pm ET

A few random comments…

Where were all of the complaining residents of FL and MI when it was clear that their vote would not count? We know HRC stated she understood the vote would not count so it is quite lousy of her to try and change the rules when it may be to her advantage.

I want Obama to represent me on the world stage and before our country.

If HRC somehow pulls this out, I will still vote for a democrat because I do not want another 4 years of the misguided republicans. Those that state "if HRC is not the nom, I'll vote for McCain… " are scary. This is not about the candidate whereas it is more about our country healing and being re-invented -a party switch will help.

Any COMEDIAN could have "mocked" HRC the way that preacher did. Its hilarious that this is an issue with Obama. I mean, if your relative or close friend mocked gays or minorities, does that make you a person of poor judgement? If your mother disaproves of you dating outside your race, would you denounce her? LOL, Im living that sceanrio right now.

If there is proof that Obama sat for 20 years and heard 20 years of racist rants etc, please let's have that come to the forefront for discussion.

Regardless of what Obama says, race will play a factor. There are some people in this country (TX, rural PA, WV, KY etc) who will simply never vote for a african-american man no matter how talented the candidate.

A comment about "experience." Our current president had government experience and 8 years on the job…look at the mess he has made. LOL…."mission accomplished."

We need someone who is not in bed with the energy companies and not interested in getting his/her name in the history books.

Ugh - can this be over…..

Ty   June 1st, 2008 12:35 pm ET

I see a lot of comments related to race in the current politics. First thing you all need to get strait is Obama is biracial. Hes 1/2 white 1/2 black so give the race thing a rest. Second of all the only time race actually came into this nomination process was when some one mentioned "hard working white blue collar Americans". Bottom line is she lost. If they are so angry at the democrats that they will vote for McCain, go for it. Just don't say a word when in 2 - 3 years we are fighting 5 or 6 wars across the world gas is 15$ a gallon and the US is on the verge of becoming a 3rd world country.

mickey   June 1st, 2008 12:35 pm ET

So disgruntled Clinton supporters will vote for McCain because Hillary didn't get what she wanted. Let 'em go. We don't need spoiled brats in the democratic party. WE want mature thinking adults whose first priority is what is good for our country…and who will abide by the rules determined by the democracy.

Concerned Citizens   June 1st, 2008 12:35 pm ET

listen the Republican party also penalize MI and FL for moving there party forward. Please someone tell me why the republicans are not asking like animals? Can someone please get a grip on Hillary's supporters. They are acting like a group of rabid dogs.
Listen the only reason why anyone will vote for McCain over Obama if they are a Hillary Supporter is simply because of a racial issue. Admitting it is a step towards healing. Because Hillary and Obama both have the same goal. The issue overall is how to get to those goals. Hillary has obviously shown that she is a fighter… this quality is good in some instances (think divorce lawyers… expenses… no one gets anything done…someone is always left unhappy). However, sometimes you need a negotiator and thats what i believe Obama is good at.
Clinton really needs to bow out….

Carmen, NC   June 1st, 2008 12:35 pm ET

Just because they didn't get their way. This is crazy but if so then they were not Democrats anyway. They broke the rules so they should pay for it. Any if they want the war and no health ccare then they should vote for McCain. Hillary you are a pathetic to get these people to turn from from this Democratic Campaign. You promise to back Obama if he wins just like he would if you won. Don't be a jerk or jackss. The world is not built around the Clinton's anymore.

Dennis   June 1st, 2008 12:34 pm ET

This primary will be a valuable teaching tool for Civics professors nationwide. We as adults expect (demand) that our children follow the rules! We're teaching youngsters that it is okay to ignore rules. Senator Obama's camp was awarded a 50/50 split by the DNC rules committee but yet agreed to compromise even further. One would think that Clinton's supporters would be thankful. Instead, they behaved by yelling, screaming, etc. during the hearings.

Everyone (both camps) got more than they deserved from the DNC committee. Why?….because the whole process should have never taken place. The rules were known, both parties involved agreed to them and if I were in charge, Saturday's event would not have taken place. RULES ARE NOT MADE TO BE BROKEN!! YOU FOLLOW THEM…PERIOD!

TX

John from Texas   June 1st, 2008 12:34 pm ET

I think the majority of Clinton supporters are fair minded people. This is an emotional period of the campaign, but most of the Clinton supporters will step up and do what"s good for the country in the end. Obama supporters, don't label all Clinton supporters as "nutjobs!", they're not ,and you'll need them to take back this country. There are idiots from both camps who can't see past the end of they're noses, but these are not representative of either camp. Let's just get it done in november.

jeff   June 1st, 2008 12:34 pm ET

There is something wrong with a system that if you win CA, NY, PA, FL, OH, NJ, TX, MA, and MI, you still lose the nomination.

It's the Electoral College stupid…It's the electoral college stupid!!!!!

rcusm   June 1st, 2008 12:34 pm ET

Some people just have to vote for a liar, he is a confirmed liar, by his own word. The degeneration of the political process and election of leadership in our country continues in spite of the lessons learned during vietnam, and now iraq. Lies cost lives. To bad americans must sleep in the political quagmire, and pay for the mess these egotists so casually create.

susants   June 1st, 2008 12:34 pm ET

Bad behaviour and threats do NOT become Party activists. What an insult to Mrs Clinton that her supporters would attack her Party while she is still running to capture its nomination.
They need to chill out.

abcd   June 1st, 2008 12:34 pm ET

Al Gore,Howard Dean,Pelosi should all make a statement and endorse Obama after Tuesday's last primaries,that will unite the party.

Clinton knows after this negative-full of lies-delusional,thrash campaigning she has no chance to be nominee in the future years,that upsets her.This was her only chance and the name Clinton is over by yesterday.

Michigan-Florida was agreed months ago,funny Clinton makes it issue now,when she didn't ever mention it months ago when she was leading.

Those some Clinton fans who say they'll vote for McCain,go ahead,who cares,Obama will be president without your votes too,he is that strong.Funny Hillary's plans are more similar to Obama's than McCain's,but her fans prefer McCain,why?They can't stand a black president,still open racism,get a life..

PCS / North Carolina   June 1st, 2008 12:34 pm ET

HILLARY'S PLAN FOR MICHIGAN

Hillary = ALL THE MICHIGAN DELEGATES
OBAMA = NO DELEGATES FROM MICHIGAN

Question for the DNC ( Hillary supporters)
1) Although Obama lost some states, he did win some delegates in those states. So, how can you argue that Obama should get 0 delegates in MI ?

2) Hillary states " Obama should not be awarded any delegates from MI". She is agitating her supporters to riot, essentially trying to rig the votes.
Just like a Tribal election = MUGABE regimen

3) She had the support of 13 members of the DNC rules committee.
Why she did not question the MI, FL issue when she was leading the delegate count ? In-fact she agreed to all the bylaws set fourth by the DNC rules committee.
Please do not cry foul when you are loosing the nomination. Players do not have the right to change the rules in the middle of the game to suit you own agenda. We are talking about our country, and not about somebody who think she has the birthright to become the president of this great country.
Sure, Hillary supporters will vote McCain and get him elected in November, just like they did to get Bush in power. In 10 years, we will reflect on this and say “We missed a great chance to unite our country and the whole world”

jl   June 1st, 2008 12:33 pm ET

Obama has taken the high road here. Hillary, rules are rules. If Florida and Michigan should be included in the process, they should, at their expense, hold a new primary in accordance with the rules of the Democratic party.
Our 2 party system is archaic, but politicians thrive in it. Maybe this debacle will make room for a 3rd party–offering viable options rather than a choice between the lesser of two evils.
It is a shame that our politics have taken on a sports type mentality with rivalries between same party politicians yielding hurt feelings that get in the way of what is in the best interest of the people!

foshizzle   June 1st, 2008 12:33 pm ET

The whole acting of Hillary Clinton and her followers is just ridiculous. Obama did not even have his name on the ballot in Michigan, and now Clinton gets delegates or this primary. Considering that fact, how insane the Clinton folks are to complain about the situation.

Dusacre   June 1st, 2008 12:32 pm ET

If angry Clinton supporters want to vote for McCain, then let them do it. These are people who want to have their ways in everything anyway. Let see what McCain will give them at the end. Four years from now you will come right back to where you are now if not worse.

Goran   June 1st, 2008 12:32 pm ET

I am just sick of having presidents who are Bush and Clinton last 20 years we had Bush Clinton administration, it is time for change Hillary is trying to force her way in, she is pathetic

Karuna in Cali   June 1st, 2008 12:32 pm ET

they should see the video of Hillary telling them not to vote for mcain and anger. she And Obama really believe the same things and have the same goals. They just have different ways of trying to reach them.

SARA   June 1st, 2008 12:28 pm ET

IF OBAMA WINS AFTER CHEATING, WE DEMOCRATES ARE GOING WITH MCCAIN. GREED IS A SIN…HIS PREACHER SHOULD KNOW.

HILLARY IS BETTER QUALIFIED AND YET PELOSI IS PUSHING THE OBAMA GREED GROUP. SHE DOES NOT WANT HILLARY IN THE CONVENTION. SHE HAS SAID THAT VERY STATEMENT.

MCCAIN LOOKS VERY GOOD AND IS READY TO ACCEPT THE DEMOCRATES COMING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

OBAMA IS A FAKE!!!! PRETENDION IS IS NAME AFTER HIS GREED.
GO TO MCCAIN IS THE NEW MOTTO IF HE DOES NOT GIVE THE VOTES BACK TO HILLARY THE EXPERIENED ONE.

molly   June 1st, 2008 12:27 pm ET

This just goes to show the intelligence level of some people. The fact of the matter is that Clinton and Obama have a very similar voting record, which are both very different from McCain's. To cross over to another party over this is unfair to your party, your candidate, and the American people.

Brent   June 1st, 2008 12:27 pm ET

It amazes me to hear that a Democrat would vote for McCain who will load the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade, continue the Iraq war and probably start a serious conflict with Iran. I guess that these are emotions talking and I hope they will cool off enough for voters to think things through before November.

B-dog   June 1st, 2008 12:26 pm ET

Please do! Please Clintonites who have fully drank the kool-aid, please vote for McCain! Help ensure another Republican victory! Please Vote for McCain, keep our courageous men and women in Iraq! Please Vote for McCain so he can appoint 2 more Conservative Judges to the Supreme Court and numerous others to the Federal Courts who will overturn Roe v. Wade. PLEASE Clintonites and your poor understanding of how you've been played…Please vote for McCain so we can have more of the same. Please cut off your nose to spite your face.

I doubt anyone who supports Clinton will understand much of this as she has overwhelming support of "blue collar workers" = uneducated white trash. There is no "overall vote" argument you ignorant fools! She cannot count caucus states because those numbers are not released for adding the total vote. She never mentions that because she wants you to believe every word that spills out of her cackling maw!

PLEASE vote for McCain so our country will have more of the same. Will you gather together and ride the bus from FL when the Supreme Court rules on every issue that you so badly want to keep. Will you look in the mirror and point the finger at yourself or will you continue to blame others for the simple fact that the majority of Democratic voters wanted someone else. Please stop claiming the "sexist card"; can't you see that people generally aren't voting against women…they are voting against THAT woman. Imagine if Barry Bonds had been the first African-American to break the color barrier instead of Jackie Robinson. Things would have been totally different. The same goes with Hillary…just because she's a woman whose come the farthest doesn't make her the RIGHT one.

So when you fill in your circle, pull your switch, or punch your CHAD, make sure it is for McCain on Nov. 2! Thank you Clintonites for showing your true colors. Enjoy the feeling of the knife as it slices off your own nose as you spite the rest of us!

Matt   June 1st, 2008 12:26 pm ET

Next Clinton supporters statement: "Oh well I know the law said we can't rob banks but since so many of us ignored that law we should be able to keep the money and go free."

Anyway, Democrats 08

Glen   June 1st, 2008 12:26 pm ET

It is NOT a democracy when Michigan and Florida
votes are not delegated as voted, shame to the DNC

McCain will have my vote if Obama wins by default!!

Carol from MI   June 1st, 2008 12:26 pm ET

Hillary complained constantly about FL and MI counting. Well, now they are counting and still she complains. As of yesterday, she needed 244 delegates and now she needs 241. Yesterday Obama needed 42 and now needs 67.

So who come out behind here? Still, he is in total agreement but of course her and Bill's crying will continue…..forever.

B   June 1st, 2008 12:26 pm ET

I knew this would happen. A fair deal is reached, and Clinton supporters are still crying foul. Nothing is ever fair enough. It's just really sad to see people be so short sighted. this has been a fair race, and your candidate has lost. Be reasonable.

Jack   June 1st, 2008 12:26 pm ET

I'm stocking up on the new Obama bumper sticker: "NO We Can't!" and "One Party Two Votes"

b.t.   June 1st, 2008 12:25 pm ET

If she can't have it, no one can. This is like a bad abusive relationship. Clinton supporters, you've been had. This woman doesn't care about you, she wants another chance to pillage the white house, like she and her husband did when he left. I mean that literally, they stole $80,000 worth of furnishings and housewares (including wall to wall carpeting) before he left. That's who I want to run the country I love!
blech.

TodayisTheDay   June 1st, 2008 12:25 pm ET

Please expect an announcement by HRC today !! SuperDs can end this today !!

Shannon   June 1st, 2008 12:25 pm ET

Let's write Clinton in, we can vote for who we want. I want nothing to do with the hate filled Obama campaign, and if you doubt it is hate filled read the posts here. Obama does not represent me, he voted for the Cheney Energy bill, he skipped FISA, he skipped Kyle Liberman, he skipped 42% of his votes. More importantly he voted present 8 times on votes that pertained to a woman's right to choose. He has no backbone to take a stand, it's which ever way the wind blows, or the votes go . His supporters are some of the most hate filled I have ever seen, again read the posts here, look at his church. He sat in that church for years and listened to people cheer hate and racism, and now that it is going to affect the vote, he dumbs them. He says he's for hope and change, he says he's for uniting the country, well I don't see it, again just hate written here. Vote Hillary, she didn't need to steal delegates to win!

Patrick House   June 1st, 2008 12:25 pm ET

I have been a Republican for 35 years and have recently switched my party.Obama is the reason!I am 58 and have worked on Wall Street 25 years.The Clintons are close to City Bank,hedge funds,and private equity funds.When I worked at Drexal these people were called corporate raiders.I count myself an expert on these grouips and the morgage crisis.Many of their supportors are part of the cause of this morgage mess.She wanted to appoint two of the main players in this mess to help solve the problem,Robert Reuben and Alan Greenspan.The morgage problem is only part of our economic woes.Paul Vocker and Warren Buffet,two brillant men on the economy and the Fed are backing Obama.Compare Obama's integrity ratings to hers.I hope the Clinton people don't go Repulican.That would be a tragic thing.

BETTY AZZURRO   June 1st, 2008 12:25 pm ET

The super delegate from Las Vegas is under indictment. Why was she permitted to voice her opinion?

David, Paducah, Kentucky   June 1st, 2008 12:25 pm ET

If those radical Hillary Clinton supporters feel that way, then they are free to vote for McCain and suffer the consequences of their hotheaded, knee-jerk reaction.If they vote for McCain, then they were not true Democratic voters anyway.

Lynne   June 1st, 2008 12:25 pm ET

If Obama is the Dem candidate, I'LL VOTE McCAIN!!!

E. C., Houston, Texas   June 1st, 2008 12:25 pm ET

In One Word: 'Crooked' Both Democratic Party Rules and Leaders. Clinton supporters will make the Correct decision if they Vote for McCain instead of Obama ….IF.. Clinton does NOT receive the Nomination. Obama is the LEAST and MOST UNQUALIFIED person in the campaign. Obama has NO business even being a participant in the Campaign BECAUSE HE IS NOT EXPERIENCED AND NOT QUALIFIED. Obama has NO clue about Government or Leadership. Obama spent ONLY 3 years in the Senate and Accomplished NOTHING. Obama doesn't even have a decent resume. WHY are Democrats pushing this guy? Makes NO SENSE.

Montreal   June 1st, 2008 12:25 pm ET

The second comment on this blog; "And why would Obama take his name off? "
Has The USA reached the level where Honour is foolish?

And besides it speaks volumes where Clinton barely got half the votes running against no-one !!

Whew   June 1st, 2008 12:24 pm ET

By the way, how many people have ever tried to umpire a ball game? I did it ONE TIME when I was younger. The first thing I learned was, you NEVER change your call. People from both sides of the field get real angry very quickly.

Deadhead for Obama   June 1st, 2008 12:24 pm ET

For those who are upset about this now, and saying they will vote for McCain…the GOP did the same thing the Democrats did — they took away half of FL and MI votes. They just did it at the beginning of the process, not the end…which avoided this whole messy controversy.

It goes to show how much better organized the GOP is than the Democrats. Same problem, same solution, less controversy.

McCain stands exactly opposite the Democrats on virtually every position. Any Democrat who votes for him out of spite does not understand this.

McCain wants to overturn Roe v Wade. He wants to privatize Social Security. He favors school vouchers. He supports the war in Iraq. He is against equal rights for same-sex couples. How anyone who is a Democrat, and supports the Democratic ideals can vote for McCain is beyond me.

mhp   June 1st, 2008 12:24 pm ET

As a Clinton voter and supporter I am so upset with the Clinton hawks yesterday. I work in higher education and we teach students everyday, you break the rules, you pay the price. Michigan and Florida broke the rules. I, personally do not think either delegation should be seated. This is a sad parlor trick Hillary pulled and makes me feel sorry for all of the turncoats in the party who will vote McCain in November because of this. Obama won fair and square. Lets not let this opportunity slip from our hands.

Roger M   June 1st, 2008 12:24 pm ET

I am a Democrat and have been waiting patiently for this to resolve itself and have not chosen to support either candidate. I think Obama or Clinton will make great Presidents and will support whomever our party endorses.

Now that there is a solution to the FL and MI debacle, and I think a fair one, it seems we can't start crying "foul". I don't think the DNC is causing the divisiveness in the party…we are. Many supporters (for both candidates) are tearing us apart. Shockingly, many have been behaving like the Republicans in the name destructive tones and arguments.

As many posters have pointed out, and I concur, the rules were broken and punishment had to follow other wise they’d be setting a precedent that needn’t happen.

Larry in TX   June 1st, 2008 12:23 pm ET

King Solomon once had a tough decision. Two women each claimed a baby was their own. Solomon said "Cut the baby in two and give half to each mother." The real mother said "No, give him to the other!" Solomon then knew who the real mother was.

The DNC had a very tough decision and knew not everyone would be happy with it. It is really too bad that some Clinton supporters, who felt they "lost," are willing to subvert the next election in favor of McCain. So, who are the real Democrats?

Maybe Hillary's new slogan will be: Mc-Cain and Dis-Able

Robert GA   June 1st, 2008 12:23 pm ET

THe verdict is fair and clear. HRC want things to fall in line for her which most can understand. It's all about her ot the people. She voted to reject the votes of FLA and MICH. and now want them because she behind. Sen. Obama was talking the popular vote when he won the 11 in a row and HRC was saying POPULAR vote is not important it's the DELEGATES. Now she flips to the popular when she's behind in delegates. Whatever fits what she needs at the time and what gets me is that Americans are falling for it. Media has been rough on her? They continue to handle her with KID gloves. Like I said Whatever fits her argument at the moment. Lets vote for change.

OBAMA 2008

useless   June 1st, 2008 12:23 pm ET

even a moron would decide fairly quickly …..

to stay with the Church, or
to be in the race for President post.

Obama must have quit his church long time ago.

Grace   June 1st, 2008 12:23 pm ET

McCain = Angry, Spiteful old man

Hillary supporters that vote McCain because she doesn't get the nomination = Angry, Spiteful voters

Obama didn't make this decision. The DNC did and they did so in the only way they could if they interpreted their rules "liberally'. Remember, the votes were not going to count AT ALL.

The Hillary supporters who attempted to disrupt the meeting reminded me of the Bush supporters in 2000. Shameful and not worthy of being a Democrat. So, take your ball and go home (vote McCain) if you must, but you must be ready to pay the consequences if McCain wins because you didn't put personalities (race?) aside and vote for Obama. His positions and Hillary's are almost identical except for on healthcare which would be a major improvement either way.

Dems 08

Michael Arnaud   June 1st, 2008 12:23 pm ET

Just another reason why we should do away with the primary season and just have the general election and let everybody run. People talk about party unity, when you look at the parties there is nothing but disunity. Each one has several different factions each trying to control what the party does.

Yet, since nobody in the parties really wants to actually let the PEOPLE
really choose who will be President of the United States, we're stuck with the circus that we have. God save the United States of America.

Jeff   June 1st, 2008 12:23 pm ET

I agree with Marcelo - if HRC supporters vote for McCain, and McCain wins, he'll continue the war. Then the blood of the soldiers will be on their hands, just like it's on the hands of GW. Are they willing to betray everything we stand for at at time when America must redefine its role the world, just because your nominee didn't win? What kind of person does that make them? The word 'cultist' comes to mind….

B. McCreary   June 1st, 2008 12:23 pm ET

Make no mistake as an african american of this country and a devoted
democratic, the fact that the Democratic party has seem fit to trash my vote and used the superdelegates to give the nod to the obvious party
favorite Obama, is something we see in other countries not here. But
come November there will be an opportunity to make our vote count, and that said Go McCain. By the way in case you didn't know yes I am a Hillary support and I am in Florida.

John   June 1st, 2008 12:23 pm ET

What the Democrats don't understand is that you need independents to win an election. Even though I am a Clinton supporter, as an independent, I feel no guilt about voting for McCain. Obama better hope that the rest of us independents don't feel the same.

Barb in MN   June 1st, 2008 12:23 pm ET

Harold Ickes voted to strip the delegates from Michigan and Florida and now he's personally attacking Barack Obama on the compromise. What a hypocrite! He's also saying Barack hasn't mentioned Hillary in his apology about Father Pfleger which is a lie. It is on You Tube and I also read another instance where he mentions how horrible the attacks on her were in a story in SD, where he mentions her. I don't care if they stay in the race until Wednesday making their case on the popular vote. Fine, it is their right. But why do they think they can lie and try to slime Barack without some consequence to them and to our party. I think Clinton doesn't realize the sour taste people will have in their mouth from all her personal attacks on Barack and if she is trying to ruin Barack's chances so she can run in 2012 it is a bad strategy. Man, people get drunk with power so easily. Note to self-never run for office.

Erica   June 1st, 2008 12:22 pm ET

It's just silly that Clinton supporters wouldn't try and get rid of the old bush ways Bush by sticking with the Dem. It also just sounds ridiculous that she is saying how she is ahead in the popular vote but only if you don't count true American votes with the caucus states but Puerto Rrico is just so important for her… Why is that?
I am a 20yr old Rep. army wife from an all white family in Indiana and every one in my family from me to all my grandparents is supporting Obama…..

Mike from Illninois   June 1st, 2008 12:22 pm ET

Obama is to left wing to be president, vote for McCain. At least he votes for what he beleives in instead of special interest (see Obama's voting record in Illniois). McCain should put Hillary on his ticket since they both vote for America.

Laura   June 1st, 2008 12:22 pm ET

The Obama supporters on these blogs have said they would never vote for Clinton if she were the nominee. In fact their own candidate said that he knew Hillary's supporters would vote for him but he doubted all his supporters would vote for her. Now that Obama has the nomination within sights, we should all unite. That seems rather two-faced. I, for one will vote Green Party or Ralph Nader. I wont vote for a candidate who's supporters mock me with comments about age,gender, and educational level.

John Steward   June 1st, 2008 12:22 pm ET

Hillary Clinton has worked so hard for her entire political career trying to put the Democratic Party back in the map, after being destroyed by Reagan and Bush. I am amazed that instead of recognizing her contributions to create this new strong Democratic Party, the DNC put a young, inexperienced Obama who simply ride on the coattails of Bush disasterous policy!

I don't buy this sexist argument in the beginning, but as I keep reading what Obama supporters write in forums and comments like this (e.g. hissy fit), I realize that it is the only reason why both Obama supporters and Democratic Party loathe her, a very strong and determined woman. Nobody is calling Obama as "throwing a hissy fit" when he feebly castigated Republicans for going after his wife.

Worse, I think Obama has many more uncovered skeletons in the closet and with his behaviors of throwing his inconvenient supporters under the bus (grandma, Pastor, and now, church), if he is getting the ticket, I am either going to stay out the election or (shudder) vote for McCain.

Jack   June 1st, 2008 12:21 pm ET

HAHA…. go Hillary! Obama cannot with w/o Clinton Democrats many of whom agree w/ McCain on global warming, immigration, stem-cell research, campaign finance reform, and taxes

art   June 1st, 2008 12:21 pm ET

I am a life-long democrat but as a result of what the party has done to Hillary I don't know that I will vote for Obama this election. The party and the media has done a job on Hillary she deserved the nomination as the best qualified person for the job. Obama is an empty suit with little experience. I don't think that I could vote for someone that is so poorly qualified to be the commander in chief, we've already voted for one charismatic know-nothing the last two elections. Let's not be fooled again.l

Linda   June 1st, 2008 12:21 pm ET

Let's move along Clinton supporters!! Enough is enough…time to put it to bed - good night!! Sweet dreams…

Obama all the way!!

Morgan   June 1st, 2008 12:21 pm ET

I hope Clinton lives up to her promise to fully back Obama as her chances look slim and her supporters look determined to divide the party. As someone from Michigan told me, they hoped Clinton would not try to take away their voice for Obama because they were told to vote Uncommitted since his name was on the ballot.

YES WE CAN   June 1st, 2008 12:21 pm ET

How many days has it been since Hillary and McCain voted to go to war in Iraq?

YES WE CAN - WHEN WE UNITE

Dem in Chicago   June 1st, 2008 12:21 pm ET

Whatever. The few that follow through with their childish threat, we won't need anyway. We'll win w/o them.

Nick   June 1st, 2008 12:20 pm ET

It really is sad to see that all the delegates that wil be seated would only count as half a vote. It's a disgrace to all voters.

Now in the part of Hillary voters going to McCain if Obama wins the nomination. Are they that scared of Barack Obama?

Jack   June 1st, 2008 12:17 pm ET

Let 'em go. If they are too blind to see what's really going on, who needs them?

Andrew   June 1st, 2008 12:17 pm ET

In Florida, it was a Republicans who controlled the state who moved the primary, Democrats had nothing to do with it. So we are punishing the voters for something the Republicans did?

Krys   June 1st, 2008 12:17 pm ET

I have been a long time Democrat, but I am 99% sure that I will vote for McCain if Obama wins. Obama would join the "famous" church when he needed them to become the nominee, and quit when he believed they are in the way. Does that mean he is a hypocrite?He doesn't stand up for what he believes. Period.

Anonymous   June 1st, 2008 12:17 pm ET

Finally, true democrates working hard to ensure the Republic remains for the people!

RR   June 1st, 2008 12:16 pm ET

When are folks going to wake up? Obama is an empty suit. A bag of "hot air". Come the election, McCain will win > 90% of the 50 states claiming a landslide victory. Clinton has showed what true grit and determination is - she has earned the nomination and would stand a better chance against McCain.

Dealt   June 1st, 2008 12:16 pm ET

This is astonhising. Why does one hear this "If the nominee is not my choice I'll go McCain" only from Clinton supporters? The lady has stirred up so much antagonism bordering on hate among her supporters that they don't seem to mind whether the Democratic party is destroyed in the process. I think she should denounce very vehemently and unequivocally their voice of hatred.

Gloria   June 1st, 2008 12:16 pm ET

I hope that Bill & Hillary and all of their supporters are proud of themselves!!! I don't believe for one moment that this campaign wasn't behind the behavior of their supporters yesterday!! that was definitely the example to set for our young people….when you don't get what you want, scream and shout & hope you get your way or be disrespecful to others…after all that is the Clinton way. While you are voting republican, do us all a favor a join that party!!!

If those Clinton supporters want to vote republican, DO SO. And while you are at it, just remember that your sons and daughters will be going off to war.

mary   June 1st, 2008 12:15 pm ET

What's the difference between the Supreme Court hijacking votes and the Dnc doing the same thing?I have stopped voting,we the people make no difference anymore.

Brian   June 1st, 2008 12:15 pm ET

It is their American right to as low and selfish as they want to be… I'm glad that Obama is above this and was willing to give a little to make sure people in both states are represented…… too bad Hillary and her supporters only want to take….. perhaps this why she lost the election.

Maria   June 1st, 2008 12:15 pm ET

By the way. I think Hillary should drop out at this point. It is time for her to go home and let the Dems and the media try to work their magic with the Chosen one. I am hoping she just goes quietly back to NYC and stays out of this election. It is obvious that she is not wanted by the Dems in power Her and Bill need to go home. It is over Hillary. You did your best and you did it with honor.

Here is a thought, has anyone asked Michele Obama if she was "proud" of how her husband got his Senate seat? Or is the Chicago politics the "new" politics Obama is bringing to DC? What he did is similar to Bush vs. Gore in 2000.

NEVER OBAMA THE LIAR   June 1st, 2008 12:15 pm ET

Hillary will not become an independent so I'm voting for John McCain. This country is alot more safe in this man's hands than liar obama.

BHO   June 1st, 2008 12:15 pm ET

The supporters of Mrs. Clinton lost their balance of their minds. If Hillary not crowned, they are for McCain. What is this logic?

They must know the party rules and all the candidates agreed. On that basis other candidates withdrew their names from the ballot except Hillary. DNC must punish Hillary for not following the party line.

DNC awarded half vote to the Fl and MI delegates. Hillary supporters in the DNC rule comitee too agreed. Party is important than the candidates. The worst is the Hillary's agent harold Icky who agreed to punish Fl and Mi at the start. Now he play a different tune. Opportunism has no place to determine the candiadate for a party fo a great country.

My doubt is how Hillary people respect the laws of the nation or world bodies if they cannot respect the rule of their own party? I see a shadow of Bush….who refused to accept the Geneva Convention.

Lisa   June 1st, 2008 12:15 pm ET

I think that all the votes should count. The voters made there choice and just because a select few chose to change the date where the election would take place is no reason that the people of those states should get shafted. I have to agree that voting for McCain may not be the best idea, but then again I can't bring myself to cast a vote for Obama. I am don't think that big speeches and no experience would be good for our country either…. Maybe if Hillary doesnt get a chance we should wish for other choices….. not that this is a reality though.

itdoesntmatter   June 1st, 2008 12:15 pm ET

IT DOES NOT MATTER WHO WINS THE NOMINATION—–McCAIN IT'S GOING TO WIN THE PRESIDENCY——-IT'S OBVIOUS!!!!

D. Ireland   June 1st, 2008 12:14 pm ET

Please go to McCain. Just don't complain when you are faced with the same issues we have been dealing with for the past 8 years. I think it is sad these people are so caught up with the Clinton's they don't see that it her campaign has NOTHING to do with you or the American people. It is all about what the Clinton's want and feel they are entitled to. So by all means back McCain.

DL   June 1st, 2008 12:14 pm ET

I can't believe some people are saying this is fair. It's the DNC that messed up — not the people of the states of Florida and Michigan. Why should their vote only count 1/2 the full value. They should be treated like equal citizens — not half citizens. A revote, at least, should have taken place long ago. Shame on the DNC for allowing this mess to continue and for taking so long to address it. I don't blame people for being upset. It IS enough to make people want to switch votes and to switch parties because of the DNC has handled this issue. I am very disappointed as well.

Fordy   June 1st, 2008 12:14 pm ET

Makes no sense to comment…

24 white male Louisville Ky   June 1st, 2008 12:14 pm ET

Obama is the most likeable presidential candidate in years. You people screaming about voting for McCain are truly bizarre. I guess that is the uneducated response to be expected at this point.

I had always liked Hillary just fine, but if she doesn't accept defeat now and rally around her fellow democrat, then she needs to take a long look in the mirror. So do the rest of you Obama bashers.

Obama 08

marty   June 1st, 2008 12:14 pm ET

yes i am a lifelong democrat…veteran of the Mcgovern campain and I will NOT vote for the Obama phony. It is a npathetic reality that the party "leadership" doesnt have the stones to say what MUST be said; that the country needs Clinton and the people who voted for the phony were mislead.

David   June 1st, 2008 12:14 pm ET

If Obama loses don't blame Hillary. Even if she had quite months ago many of us Clinton supporters would not support Obama. The party is pretty much evenly split. We want Clinton. We DO NOT want Obama. He is NOT change. I vote for the person, not the party. Dean has pretty much screwed up the Democrat party and I hope he is ousted when the election is over and the moderates take back the party. The Democrats have lost the last 3 elections which should have been won handily but they messed up and they have messed up again with their support of Obama.

Ohio Citizen   June 1st, 2008 12:14 pm ET

Those HIllary Clinton supporters were acting out the same nasty disposition Hillary has displayed. Losing reveals character. These people lack the kind of character needed to be winners.

Howard   June 1st, 2008 12:14 pm ET

It's amazing how the Obama supporters continue to use nasty insults towards Clinton supporters, who are dissatisfied with the DNC's decision to blow off Hillary. This ongoing disrespect and arrogance is part of the reason why many, many Clinton supporters will either move over towards McCain, or stay home in November.

Jeff   June 1st, 2008 12:14 pm ET

Vote McCain 2008!

The more I hear about BO…my convection to vote for J McCain is growing stronger and stronger.

Mike in Calgary   June 1st, 2008 12:13 pm ET

Hillary LIED about Bosnia. She DIDN'T DO HOMEWORK reading the Intelligence Report on her desk before VOTING TO INITIATE WAR IN IRAQ (rather than focus on Afghanistan), she IGNORED ECONOMISTS and BRIDGE SAFETY concerns (I-35 bridge collapse in Minnesota) with her GAS TAX HOLIDAY and she wants to INITIATE WAR WITH THE DNC to count the results of controverted "elections' that she said did not count! She misled voters is Michigan in Florida with her statements and now RENEGES on her agreement and pledge to the DNC re the illegal unsanctioned contests.

YUPP … she sound like a real Clinton! Bill taught her well!

Mike

jz   June 1st, 2008 12:13 pm ET

if clinton loses.. i'm voting mccain… i can't stand the spine-less obama!

Christi-CA   June 1st, 2008 12:13 pm ET

“Denver! Denver!” is an ancient indigenous phrase meaning, “Obama is the nominee.”

John   June 1st, 2008 12:12 pm ET

Stop pretending this was about democracy. If this was about democracy, Hillary would have spoken up long before. This is about doing anything to win, even if it means bending the rules and dividing the party.

Kate   June 1st, 2008 12:12 pm ET

Let's see what Hillary tells her followers. She should be telling them not to hurt the Democratic Party no matter what. If she doesn't, she
may hurt her political career forever.

julie mickelson   June 1st, 2008 12:11 pm ET

I also will vote for mccain if hillary doesn't get the nominiation. I live in CA and it seems we out here haven't had the chance to participaate in the recent faceoffl–I'd like to be heard as a voice from ca that even thougoh we haven't been on this news, we still support Hillary1

NEVER OBAMA THE LIAR   June 1st, 2008 12:11 pm ET

Listen Fools…..Hillary supporters agreed to pay the entire amount to re-do the michigan vote. They could start all over and just re-vote again. But obama said NO. The little whinning liar was so afraid that he would loose Michigan he wouldn't have any part of it. So now he wants some of Michigan's votes??? BS.
By the way, I just read this….regarding Wright, obama said "I didn't see this one coming". If you are stupid enough to believe this then you deserve what you're going to get from this nitwit.

Mike   June 1st, 2008 12:11 pm ET

I love Bill and Hillary and feel that Hilliary is entitled to be Pres this time because it is her turn and becuase she is a women. I also feel should should have gotton all of the votes in Mi because Obama took his name off the list. Bill and Hllary are very honest and just want to help our country do better. I think the supports of Clinton were angry because it is not fair that Hillary is behind so much because of the sexist votes. Hillary loves our country and is a woman and it is a woman's turn to be Pres, and I don't care if Obama has won more states, more delegates, more popolar vote, can unite our country better, becasue I fell Bill and Hillary should be Pres becauce they are entitled to it because of the good job Bill did.

ajf   June 1st, 2008 12:11 pm ET

I am saddened by this. If it was the other way around Barack wouldn't have a chance. He played by the rules that he did not created. I think Clinton will get the nominee. But there is no way she can beat McCain. She made a lot of people mad. McCain has not. Do you think the new voters that voted because Obama is on the ticket are going to vote for Hilary? No. The African American voter will not vote for her. The Independence will not vote for her. The United States is not desperate for her. Hilary killed the Democratic Party. How can you possibly take the Democratic Party seriously if they are changing the rules they created.

Latisha, Trinity Church Chicago   June 1st, 2008 12:10 pm ET

Barack—I can't believe you left our church because of something that was said this week by Pfleger. It's not like you haven't heard this kind of stuff for the last 20 years. Why didn't you quit 5 or 10 years ago?
It's obvious now that everything you do is to pander to white folk so you can get their vote. You really have no core beliefs and therefore
cannot offer change we can believe in. It's a sad day.

RUBEN MIAMI   June 1st, 2008 12:10 pm ET

I am an inmigrant and I love this country more than Obama, I feel angry with him for all the obvious reason discussed here. It is so disgusted. I will vote for anybody else but him. He is a COMMUNIST !!! I am from Cuba and all this type of language is very familiar to me. Hillary will do a better role as a leader of the best country of the world than him.

hector   June 1st, 2008 12:10 pm ET

Its her party and she'll cry if she wants to .

Obama 08′

steve   June 1st, 2008 12:10 pm ET

this is wonderful.. hope you democrats keep this up till the convention.. it will be just like the good old days.. i can be thankful that we do not have such a divisive person like hillary in our party

Jay   June 1st, 2008 12:10 pm ET

What a shameful fiasco yesterday. Just a few points to consider for the unhinged "Hillary or McSame" people.

1. Hillary is 'owed' nothing, and she 'deserves' nothing, other than the right to campaign just like anyone else who has met the requirements. She is certainly not 'owed' nor after her recent conduct does she 'deserve' the nomination.

2. If we are all forced to accept another four years of Bush, all your threats about what you plan to do in November will come back on you, as you'll not only turn other dems against you, but millions of centrists like me will work tirelessly to make sure that she will look back on this proactive and voluntary disintegration of the party as political and career suicide.

She's done, and if she has any sense, she'll admit that and preserve her own political future, which is becoming apparent is all she really cares about in the first place. What a depressing display for those who just want the country back.

Whew   June 1st, 2008 12:10 pm ET

I'm going to get a whole lot of supporters together to boo the judge next time I break a traffic law. Maybe while I am at it, I can run down someone who did follow the law.

CrunchMaster   June 1st, 2008 12:10 pm ET

Reminds me of the spoiled kids who take their ball and go home when they don't get their way.

david   June 1st, 2008 12:09 pm ET

I am an Obama Supporter. I have been a lifelong democrat. I HATE dirty politics (such as those of the Hillary camp). If this nomination is STOLEN from Obama, I will do everything in my power to campaign for an Obama Democrats for McCain (just to slap the superdelegates and the Democratic party in the face). I will then switch my party afiliation to Independent.

Pierre SD   June 1st, 2008 12:09 pm ET

"Hillary should take it to the convention," is a statement that comes up a bit here and other places…

But what can Hillary take to the convention if enough superdelegates endorse Obama to make even a 100% recognition of the MI and FL delegations insufficient to put her over the top?

Those of you who want to take it to the convention REALLY want such a divisive disaster? This is the best year for Democrats in decades; if there is a major fight at the convention, neither Hillary or Obama will have a chance in the November… is that what you really want?

But I guess if you're willing to vote for McCain — a man who holds no progressive/liberal ideals — over Obama who is a 95% policy clone of Clinton, then you never cared about putting a Democrat in the office to begin with.

Walt Lehman   June 1st, 2008 12:09 pm ET

Hillary Clinton should run as an independent in the general election. I am a republican and would vote for her because of the way the democratic party leadership has stolen the nomination from her. The leadership has always wanted Obama to win. In fact, Obama has not shown me that the people are behind him. He won majority of delegates in states which held caucases, which are basically a small group of elected politicians controlled by the party. Notice that where there were no caucuses, Hillary won most of those states. Too Bad for Obama that the people's vote counts in the general election. Hers' to Hillary running as an independent!

Thomas Lydon   June 1st, 2008 12:09 pm ET

Nothing more un-American than 30 people choosing for 2.6 million.

Floyd Crisp   June 1st, 2008 12:08 pm ET

ICKES needs to get real. Hillary was given delegates she didn't have until yesterday and she was given more than anyone else. A primary with only one candidate for any reason on the ballot is a joke. As Dodd just said, they all agreed to not run in FLA and MI. The Hillary campaign needs to knock it off.

PJ   June 1st, 2008 12:07 pm ET

Well, The Clinton supporters are going to take their marbles and go home to the horrible politics that got our country in it's current mess. What kind of folks would act against their own best interests?? I guess it's the same ones that voted for George W. before, so lets just wipe their mud off the democratic party and get on with beating John McCain in November. Obama has acted with more restraint against the spoiled-child antics of Hillary than I could have. He is going to be the next president and I am looking forward to not seeing Hillary's pantsuit again.

doc4nuts   June 1st, 2008 12:07 pm ET

This all becoming tiring. Dems who vote for McBush should no longer have the gall to complain when he is elected. You asked for it, you got it!

RGuillermo   June 1st, 2008 12:07 pm ET

The Democratic Party will nominate a Presidential candidate that will not win in the General Election. It is so obvious that Barack will not win due to the states he won against Hillary are traditionally Republican States (the red states). I predict that McCain will be the next President and the Democrats will lick their wounds again for the next 4 years……

Reyna   June 1st, 2008 12:06 pm ET

Hillary Clinton continues to divide our great country. I have never knew of her to be so selfish…she only cares about herself….not the democratic party, not her supporters…she will stop at nothing to win..even if it means playing all the dirty tricks….

its sad to watch the "undecided superdelagates" to sit on the sidelines…they know what the outcome is,…they know tthey can end it….make your decision now…stop allowing the Clintons to continue to make a mockery of our demoncratic process….THE WORLD IS WATCHING.

Bitter Allen Hussein, Visalia CA   June 1st, 2008 12:06 pm ET

Stephanie says>>You should of bowed out and ran again when it was your turn.>>

The real pity was that her time was in 2004. She would have been a much stronger candidate than Kerry and we would all be working on her re-election campaign now.

Coleman R. Brice, Asbury Park, NJ   June 1st, 2008 12:06 pm ET

Anyone voting for McCain out of spite instead of serving their democratic principles aren't even mature enough to vote. they should go back to the sand box and learn how to play fair and lose gracefully.

There shouldn't have been ANY compromise. Florida and Michigan broke the rules.

When elected leaders in the highest positions of government disrespect rules and truth itself, do we even have a civilized society anymore?

Robert   June 1st, 2008 12:06 pm ET

Well, finally the Democrats get to know about Hillary what the Republicans have known for 16 years.

Hopefully it won't take them 16 years with Obama.

Sally   June 1st, 2008 12:06 pm ET

The people who are saying they will vote for McCain, were not going to vote for Senator Obama anyway. The Clintons have suceeded in making the Democratic party a mess. The nerve of the Clintons to speak of how much they love this country. Its pathetic that the Clintons are whinning and complaining because things are not going their way. This is not about them, but about what this country needs in fixing the mess Bush has made. Bill and Hillary have shown the country their true colors. The votes in Florida and Michigan should not have been counted at all.

Eric   June 1st, 2008 12:06 pm ET

This is a clear indication of why we don't want Clinton as President. She attracts the far-right extremist ideology that the country is trying to desperately to rid itself of.

John D   June 1st, 2008 12:06 pm ET

This was as fair as it could be, given the circumstances. The fairest thing would have been to uphold the DNC's prior statement, that these were just beauty contests. For now, if Hillary wins the rest of the delegates, she will be the nominee, and I will support her. If she doesn't, I will support Obama. This is simple. I am in Florida and did not vote because I was told my vote would not count.

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