WASHINGTON (CNN) – Democratic leaders hopeful that a deal to seat delegates from Florida and Michigan would mark an end to the deep division the controversy has brought to the party got some instant – and less than encouraging – feedback as they finalized the measure Saturday evening.
As members of the Democratic National Committee's Rules and Bylaws panel voted in favor of the measures, some supporters of Hillary Clinton's White House bid rose from their seats and began to shout “Don’t steal my vote!” and “Let’s go, McCain!”
Several paced the back of the ballroom, yelling at the committee members and chanting “Denver! Denver!” – the site of this summer's Democratic presidential nominating convention.
When Barack Obama’s name was mentioned, boos filled the room.
"This motion will hijack, hijack, remove four delegates won by Hillary Clinton and most importantly reflect the preferences of 600,000 Michigan voters,” said Clinton senior adviser and RBC member Harold Ickes, who added that the White House hopeful reserved her right to bring an appeal before the DNC's Credentials Committee later this summer.
The delegate allocations were a blow to Clinton, who comes away with an advantage of just 24 delegates.
She is favored in Sunday’s Puerto Rico primary. But Obama is thought to hold an edge going into next Tuesday’s contests in Montana and South Dakota – meaning Clinton’s chances of pushing Obama’s delegate lead down into the double digits before the Democratic convention have virtually disappeared.
After the vote, as knots of Clinton and Obama supporters circled each other and faced off in the lobby outside the ballroom, uncommitted Florida superdelegate Mitch Caesar – who said he would weigh in soon after the last primary Tuesday - praised the party for “taking the first step toward unity.”
Nearby, Obama supporter Laura Mitchell wasn’t so sure the party had started down the path to comity. “I think it’s going to be a disaster if this goes past Tuesday,” said the Maryland resident. “Every day it gets a little harder to imagine we will be able to come together.”
Boston native and Clinton backer Jenny Doggett, an organizer of grassroots group Count the Votes Cast, called the DNC “spineless.”
“I think what they’ve done is divisive, destroying the party. I’m disgusted,” said Doggett, who expressed hope that the popular vote in Puerto Rico and a shift in superdelegates might still be able to deliver the nomination to Hillary Clinton. “I’m done with the Democratic Party,” she added. “I’m an independent voter now.”
The Rules committee ultimately adopted modified versions of a Florida delegate proposal presented by Jon Ausman, and the Michigan Leadership Plan developed by Democratic officials in that state.
All delegates from both states, both pledged and superdelegates, will be seated – but each will only be able to cast half a vote. Florida’s delegates were split The decision adds 313 new delegates, but only 156.5 votes, to the summer convention, and raises the number of delegates required to win the nomination to 2,118.
The Florida proposal was passed unanimously by the panel – but faced a rockier reception on the Michigan plan, which employed a complicated and controversial delegate allocation formula that awarded a 10 delegate, 5 vote edge to Clinton.
The Clinton campaign later released a statement from Ickes and fellow Clinton adviser and RBC member Tina Flournoy that said the Michigan decision “violates the bedrock principles of our democracy and our Party,” and repeated their willingness to challenge the decision before the delegation is seated at the Democratic National Convention.
The Obama campaign released a statement from campaign manager David Plouffe praising the RBC decision. “We're extremely gratified that the commission agreed on a fair solution that will allow Michigan and Florida to participate in the Convention,” said Plouffe.
At a press conference at the hotel following the final vote, a skeptical reporter pressed Alexis Herman on her claim that the panel’s decision would unite the party. As Herman responded, chants of “Denver! Denver!” could be heard from the lobby outside.
Seating anyone in this situation will misrepresent basically everyone. It was common knowledge that the delegates were stripped before the vote was taken. Sure some people came out and voted anyways. How many people however, didn't make the effort to get out and vote because they were told it wouldn't matter anyways, or that their candidate, be it Obama, or Edwards, or whomever, was not on the ballot. The vote may have been significantly different if people weren't told it doesnt matter.
No matter how you look at it, however you divide up the delegates, it is basically coming down to a select few (the board members) making up some numbers and influencing the whole process. How democratic is that? It seems the whole process is flawed from the beginning. No wonder that people have had enough of this already. Let them continue to think that these decisions are being made in some smoky back room somewhere.
Why not just make up some other numbers while we are at it. They should have just let it rest. They broke the rules, live with it and learn from it. Seating people according to some rediculous "compromise" just to not leave out "millions of voters" is a farce. Awarding delegates based on what the council or whatever it is says so is not really getting those voters "counted" as it is. It's a feeble attempt to try to reconcile their mistakes.
People that are losing always are closed minded its, thier way of showing they are not mature enough to follow the rules...Im more ashamed of how hillary and her supporters acted threw this whole process over the past six months than anything else...I just wish she had more tact...every time you her talk its I this or I that...Americans are tired of the I factor and old politics...If you would have not fed off of NEGATIVE emotions after you were behind by a little bit america would have backed you...there is no more I in AMER8CA the 8 is a infinitely
I dont think it was fair what they did about the delagates in Michigan and Florida yesterday they shouldnt have taken anything away from hillary and given them to Obama when she won them fair and square. I live in Texas and we dont have write ins on our ballats so is it possible for hillary to run as an Independent in November Idont really understand how what they did to her was fair or any part of the american democratic way of life that our country has fought to preserve this is even worse than all the cheating in 2000 in florida to get bush elected we living from paycheck to paycheck but if she cant get on the ballat in november we willnot vote for obama as much as i dont like republicans i will have to vote for McCain and hopfully we will be able to move to a country that listens to its countrymen and doesnt have to cheat to win
To the people who say they didn't get a vote. You did it counted but the delegates which is what the party nomination is won (it is not won on individual votes of the people) had half a vote. So the delegates got half a vote. The party rules which Clinton and her fellow supporters seem to forget were broken so the DNC rules say if this is the case only 50% of the delegates can be seated. This was 100% delegates with 1/2 vote each which is fair, you cannot break the rules and expect not to be punished. And Clinton got her Michigan votes (maybe not what she wants but what she wants is everything and to win but what we want we don't always get) yet she wants to penalize Obama for not putting his name on when they were both told it would not count. You cannot change the rules to suit yourself Ms Clinton and supporters and should you wish now to go shoot yourself in the foot for not understanding the rules then so be in and go vote McCain. There are more than enough people who now see Hilary as a spoiled brat and will vote Obama and there are those who want to cut their nose off to spite their face and vote McCain. You have every right to vote for who you want to in a GE but I wonder how many of you are too busy trying to spite everyone else to realize you will in essence be spiting yourself. Im sure come January we shall see the Clintons have started to become squatters in the white house because some people just cant admit they haven't won.
Once upon a time I was totally in favor of Hillary, but I have become convinced that Barack Obama is the only cantidate who can truly unite both our nation AND the world as one. I think he should start to play John Lennon's song "Imagine" as his theme in this election. Wouldn'd that be the ideal song for all of us?
An act of GOD will happen which will ensure that Hitlery will win the nomination at the convention. She now has the ammo and GOD's word, will and power to convince the supers to flood to her. Obama and McCain will sadly feel GOD's wrath as Hitlery will unleash it on both of them. She will inevitably be the next president because GOD meant it to be so. She is GOD's chosen one and there is nothing anybody can do about it.
I belive the rules were ,followed and good job by the DNC, no more states moving ahead of the pack. if dem votes Mccain so be it. hell its only the future of nation ,.lets waste another 4 years I am white male ,rural and blue collar. I VOTE because future generations will look back and smile, and say united states. brings hope and unitiy too a troubled world.
It is now time to bring unity into the Democratic Party. Barack didn't cause this neither did Hillary it was HArold Ickes and the RBC. I am a saunch Obama supporter.
Ok here is the deal, Fl and Mi both were told by the DNC don't change your date or you will be punished. They did and now everyone is mad at the DNC for the punishment recieved. If this was a huge issue then they should of follwed rules. Fl and Mi dems have no one to blame but their party leaders in each state. They brought this on themselevs because they wanted to be different and got smacked in the process. As far as Clinton and Obama go, it is funny you agree to dont do something til you need it then cry wolf because you need it later.DNC needs to remake the way votes are given. Make it like a national election with a date in say May or June and winner take all
why are we still talking about hillary ,the race has been over.Everyday she stays in the race more and more people are turn off by her reasoning to stay in and she is for bring the party together i don't so.
I'm a life-long Democrat, and I've held hard feelings for the past seven years, because of what transpired in the 2000 general election. How depressing to see virtually the same thing happen again, this time perpetrated by the Democratic hierarchy. They're all the same.
All Moderate democrats should vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee of the democratic party, this will teach the DNC the lesson that in democratic system all votes are equal. there is no such thing as half vote. Everyone has equal right to vote and there vote should be equal no matter what state you are in. In democratic system right to vote and to be counted is the backbone of the system, The core of the democratic system has been undermined by DNC not giving the people of FL & MI the equal voice. People should fight for there fundamental right given to in this democratic system. This is not about Hillary or Obama, this is about our right to vote and to be heard, If we give up now then it will become a pattern and this kind of monopoly will dominate in future.
So Fight for your Right.
Her supporters are just like her, which explains why she lost!!!! If Barack loses, these people will go down as the most pathetically sore losers in the history of the world. They have become cliches, destroyers of reason. They have bought the guns to blow of their noses to spite their contorted faces.
If you will vote for McCain because of YOUR state Gov't breaking the rules. Then you were never a Democrat to begin with. The Democratic "NATIONAL" committee did the best it could to respect the voters of FL and MI without disenfranchising the 48 states that actually followed the rules. If you want to be angry at someone, get angry at your state officials that caused your votes not to count. Do any of you believe if the roles were switched that Hillary wouldn't be arguing the opposite as if it was absolute truth? That's what I thought. In the words of that (censored) on the Supreme Court, "get over it".
For Clinton supporters to say in one breath we want ALL voices to count but then say count the results of the invalid election as it was cast is bizarre.
Do you REALLY think that those result reflected the will of the Democrats in MI? So 45% (uncommited) would not have voted for another candidate had it been valid? Also, would not the dynamic been different if all 8 candidates were allowed to introduce themselves to MI by campaigning? It's crazy for people to think that 55% of MI voters wanted Clinton and no other candidate would have won any delegates?
So, while I'm upset that it had to come down to this, I think that any consideration to these invalid results was very generous in making the decision the DNC rules team made today.
Harold & Tina should give it a break. Barack Obama will find a job for you, however, you will not be receiveing the over inflated salaries that has put the Clinton Campaign in tremendous debt and in complete shambles.
Good riddance to such folk who would vote for a republican. They have no credibility in my eyes. As a democrat I view the good of the party ahead of my own immediate interest. Compromise is what good politics is about and we are best rid of Hillary and her fake democratic supporters. Especially when we consider the racial tones of her late campaign has made a point in raising. Every woman I know personally is outraged by her and her followers. We do not want you racists in our party.
This really makes me mad! Angry Clinton Supporters???
How low can you go! This DNC result was EXSTREAMLY UNFAIR to Obama! He did not campaign and was not even on the ballot in MI.
Why should Obama have to 'give in' to anything Clinton wants??
Obama doesn't FREAKING OWE Clinton anything!
Still Obama was gracious to her and the Obama campaign is satisfied with the results in which they walked out losing delegates to Clinton.
I say let these Clinton loosers hurry up to McCain they deserve his grandpa style and old poltics!
If my memory serves me correct, first, Florida and Michigan broke the rules, second both Clinton and Obama agreed to to not seat those delegates. Does everyone agree with me. Clinton thought she had this election in the bag.
Not so fast, because she is loosing now she wants to count Florida and Michigan, but they broke the rules.
Now we allowed them back in, she got the most out of bringing them back in and she is still behind. What more needs to be said.
Allow me to sum this up, in the fall, all of you that feel that you were cheated, vote for MCcain and lets continue this reckless course that we are going down. I'm asking all of my Democratic brothers and sisters, please open your eyes. Scott McClellan did.
The DNC had the answer to Florida and Michigan weeks ago.This so called meeting today in Washington was a joke.They stabbed Hillary Clinton in the back.Howard Dean who hates Hillary now has his boy,Obama.But he will be really surprised when more than 17 million Reagan demcrats who voted for Hillary in Ohio,PA,MI,FL,CA,cross over and vote for McCain.I will be one of them.Dean can take Obama and put him where the sun never shines.The good people once again from Florida have been screwed.And in Michigan where the boy wasn't even on the ballot,the DNC fixed it so he was after their vote.Obama knows all about fixing elections,he fixed the one in Chicago when he ran for the Senate.He gives a good speech but under that speech isa empty suit.McCain will eat him alive in November.And next week the Risco scandal in Chicago will be all over the news.Thats Obama's mob crook,another of his dear friends.
I did not quote the book correctly, it was,"A New Earth." Even better.
I want to take this to the convention. I want Obama to go away.
I guess that Ohio Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones was WRONG! And now Clinton’s chances of pushing Obama’s delegate lead down into the double digits before the Democratic convention have virtually disappeared
I for one am glad that the Commission made a fair solution as Both Florida and Michigan broke the Rules and might not have a chance to participate in the convention. As for Hillary Clinton, You my dear have ran your race and lost. Please don't drag this dead dog out to play as we are tired of hearing of how you are the one who can win when you now can not! Do the math, It's over. You have not ran a good campaign. Someone give them the 20 million they are down so we can close this up and get on to Nov.
I am an independent and have been so for the past couple of months, or right around the time i relaized that the dnc leaders care more about their party than the american voter. if hillary can run as an independent she will certainly win the presidential election. she doesnt need the "black vote" just like obama doesnt need the "white vote" (according to donna brazille). if she is not willing to, or able to, then i will certainly vote for mccain. what the dnc leaders fail to acknowledge is that hillary supporters wioll vote for mccain and not even blick an eye when doing so. the dnc leaders and the media all seem to think that we wont,...as if they know us better than we know ourselves. what a huge mistake. they will realize their mistake in november and they will only have themselves, and the media, to blame.
those hardcore clinton supporters are just a big bunch of cry baby
whiny complainers, obama's the nominee, GET OVER IT YOU SORE