June 1st, 2008
11:20 AM ET
7 years ago

Angry Clinton supporters tell party leaders: 'Let's go McCain!'

Some Clinton backers said Saturday they're voting for McCain.
Some Clinton backers said Saturday they're voting for McCain.

WASHINGTON (CNN) – Democratic leaders hopeful that a deal to seat delegates from Florida and Michigan would mark an end to the deep division the controversy has brought to the party got some instant – and less than encouraging – feedback as they finalized the measure Saturday evening.

As members of the Democratic National Committee's Rules and Bylaws panel voted in favor of the measures, some supporters of Hillary Clinton's White House bid rose from their seats and began to shout “Don’t steal my vote!” and “Let’s go, McCain!”

Several paced the back of the ballroom, yelling at the committee members and chanting “Denver! Denver!” – the site of this summer's Democratic presidential nominating convention.

When Barack Obama’s name was mentioned, boos filled the room.

"This motion will hijack, hijack, remove four delegates won by Hillary Clinton and most importantly reflect the preferences of 600,000 Michigan voters,” said Clinton senior adviser and RBC member Harold Ickes, who added that the White House hopeful reserved her right to bring an appeal before the DNC's Credentials Committee later this summer.

The delegate allocations were a blow to Clinton, who comes away with an advantage of just 24 delegates.

She is favored in Sunday’s Puerto Rico primary. But Obama is thought to hold an edge going into next Tuesday’s contests in Montana and South Dakota – meaning Clinton’s chances of pushing Obama’s delegate lead down into the double digits before the Democratic convention have virtually disappeared.

After the vote, as knots of Clinton and Obama supporters circled each other and faced off in the lobby outside the ballroom, uncommitted Florida superdelegate Mitch Caesar – who said he would weigh in soon after the last primary Tuesday - praised the party for “taking the first step toward unity.”

Nearby, Obama supporter Laura Mitchell wasn’t so sure the party had started down the path to comity. “I think it’s going to be a disaster if this goes past Tuesday,” said the Maryland resident. “Every day it gets a little harder to imagine we will be able to come together.”

Boston native and Clinton backer Jenny Doggett, an organizer of grassroots group Count the Votes Cast, called the DNC “spineless.”

“I think what they’ve done is divisive, destroying the party. I’m disgusted,” said Doggett, who expressed hope that the popular vote in Puerto Rico and a shift in superdelegates might still be able to deliver the nomination to Hillary Clinton. “I’m done with the Democratic Party,” she added. “I’m an independent voter now.”

The Rules committee ultimately adopted modified versions of a Florida delegate proposal presented by Jon Ausman, and the Michigan Leadership Plan developed by Democratic officials in that state.

All delegates from both states, both pledged and superdelegates, will be seated – but each will only be able to cast half a vote. Florida’s delegates were split The decision adds 313 new delegates, but only 156.5 votes, to the summer convention, and raises the number of delegates required to win the nomination to 2,118.

The Florida proposal was passed unanimously by the panel – but faced a rockier reception on the Michigan plan, which employed a complicated and controversial delegate allocation formula that awarded a 10 delegate, 5 vote edge to Clinton.

The Clinton campaign later released a statement from Ickes and fellow Clinton adviser and RBC member Tina Flournoy that said the Michigan decision “violates the bedrock principles of our democracy and our Party,” and repeated their willingness to challenge the decision before the delegation is seated at the Democratic National Convention.

The Obama campaign released a statement from campaign manager David Plouffe praising the RBC decision. “We're extremely gratified that the commission agreed on a fair solution that will allow Michigan and Florida to participate in the Convention,” said Plouffe.

At a press conference at the hotel following the final vote, a skeptical reporter pressed Alexis Herman on her claim that the panel’s decision would unite the party. As Herman responded, chants of “Denver! Denver!” could be heard from the lobby outside.


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  1. Gerardine

    DNC decision yesterday was unbelievable. One of the benefits of being a US citizen is that you have the right to vote. What right has the DNC to take away this right from the citizens of Florida and Michigan. I feel very strongly about a citizens democratic right to vote and I feel very strongly about this. Pelose and Dean should be ashamed of themselves – expecially in light of their comments during the weed asking superdelegates to come out and without mentioning his name asking people to vote for BO. I will actively campaign for John McCain if BO gets the nod.

    June 1, 2008 11:50 am at 11:50 am |
  2. tesor

    It just makes me sick to think I supported her at all. She is just making it easier for us to lose in November.

    June 1, 2008 11:50 am at 11:50 am |
  3. Paul Brown

    The DNC is counting votes similar to the 2000 Florida national vote. If the outcome doesn't meet what I prefer, change the rules. Let the Supremes decide. pb

    June 1, 2008 11:50 am at 11:50 am |
  4. bob

    I WILL NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA

    June 1, 2008 11:50 am at 11:50 am |
  5. Another Independent

    There was a time that I could have supported Hillary. That time is gone. She is not acting professional at all. I do not want another 4 years of what we have had. I am afraid that she will mess this up fro Obama so she can try again in 2012. We, as a country, can not tolerate this. Hillary and her supporters need to please act like adults and help the country....not Hillary. Unfortunately, no one has told her that it is not about her...it is about the rest of us voters.

    June 1, 2008 11:50 am at 11:50 am |
  6. Time to move on...

    I think Stephen Stills has the right words for Democrats looking to the fall:

    And if you cant be with the one you love
    Love the one your with
    Don't be angry
    Don't be sad
    Don't sit cryin' for good times you had

    Jeez guys – Hillary & Obama were, at best, my 3rd and 4th choices behing Kucinich and Edwards. I'm not happy with the remaining mopes in the race but ANYONE coming out of the Democratic nomination process is going to be a vast improvement over George W. Bush and John McSame.

    June 1, 2008 11:50 am at 11:50 am |
  7. MizuInOz

    Well, so you can't have it your way so you will sabotage your rights – with the possibility of overturning Woe Vs Wade and put women's rights back a quarter of a century. That's brilliant.

    Why do you blame Barack Obama for your candidate's loss? She is the one who played the "white" card and the race card and the gender card – so now that all of those cards are used – we can see that someone or a bunch of someones are not playing with a full deck.

    I would have to say you are not very committed in your beliefs of the platform that both Hillary and Barack are presenting. There are many similarities in what they are supporting and proposing. Yet, Obama is winning. And you don't like that.

    And since Obama has the most in popular vote, the highest delegate count and super-delegate count; I guess he should just step aside because you are not getting your way and you are going to take your short deck of cards and go play with he who does not play with both porch lights on! Sounds sensible and wise. Where are all of the wise women of the 90s?

    I was a Hillary supporter – ardent supporter until she felt it was necessary to lie and back stab and use innuendo to belittle and berate her opponent (Obama -not McCain).

    Maybe if you ask her nicely, she can switch back the her original party of preference (the Republican Party) and she can be John McSame's running mate. After all she is a member of the DCL and they support all of the same programmes that McSame proposes.

    If you do not know what the DLC is – look it up.
    Then decide if you really want to punish the Democratic Party.

    Cheers.

    June 1, 2008 11:50 am at 11:50 am |
  8. Steve (Independent)

    Actually, watching the events in almot their entirety, the resolution was as just and fair as it could be under the circumstances.

    They could have as easily decided NOT to count any votes, which would have been unfair to the voters of those two states and left the party in total chaos as it would have made the Rules and By-laws meaningless and worthless.

    The best that they could do was reach some sort of compromise that was inclusive, as opposed to exclusive as some presented options were.

    It is not the fault of the DNC as some claim, not near as much as it is the fault of the two Staes and their Legislatures involved.

    June 1, 2008 11:50 am at 11:50 am |
  9. Jim Johnson

    Obama himself chose to remove his name from the Michigan ballot in order to curry favor with Iowa voters. Iowa you know always wants to be first even though they only have 7 electoral votes. Obama received ZERO votes in Michigan and is therefore entitled to ZERO delegates. I strongly object to the DNC’s decision to undercut its own rules in seating Michigan’s delegates without reflecting the votes of the people of Michigan. The Committee awarded to Senator Obama not only the delegates won by Uncommitted, but four of the delegates won by Senator Clinton. This decision violates the bedrock principles of our democracy and our Party. I urge the Michigan delegation to challenge this decision before the Credentials Committee and appeal for a fair allocation of Michigan’s delegates that actually reflect the votes as they were cast. Jim in Rochester, Michigan

    June 1, 2008 11:50 am at 11:50 am |
  10. Brendan

    Hillarly needs to bow out graciously, but unfortunately she is too selfish to do so. The DNC's decision is also flawed in so many respects, and clearly shows how weak and pathetic the democratic party has become. I think it is a shame what the party has become, and if the republicans win the general election the democrats (whether a Hillary or Obama supporter) will be to blame. You do not see the republicans bickering like the democrats, which shows a strong, central leadership.

    What I find most amusing is that Ms. Clinton agreed not have the Florida and Michigan votes to count, now she wants them to count. Then the DNC compromises and allows half the votes and then awards Obama percentage of the votes in Michigan (where he appropriately removed his name from the ballot). Now Clinton supporters are whining because only have the votes counted in both states and Obama got a percentage in Michigan. The Clintons are unbelievable, and their supporters a bunch of morons.

    I am a long time republic, but if Ms. Clinton gets the nomination over Obama I will not vote for her, nor will I likely support another democratic candidate.

    June 1, 2008 11:50 am at 11:50 am |
  11. Debby

    Billary changes the rules to her advantage. She got more than she should have. Now shes trying to push herself into a Vice President position. The Clintons have no ethics and cannot stand to lose. The rulings were as fair as they could be. She has spent two weeks in PR in a desperate attempt to do what? Obama has ran a respectful campaign and has not had to make desperate attempts to manipulate anything. I cannot wait until she is out of the picture. Anyone voting for McCain out of vengence speaks for itself. It's not about the canidates its about America and what is in our best interest. McCain is certainly not in our best interest....Grow up, open your eyes and do the right thing, support the Democratic party. Unite

    June 1, 2008 11:51 am at 11:51 am |
  12. Ken In Texas

    Pretty cut and dry,The DNC continues to push the Obama nomination,They will not give the nomination to the rightful person,They have an agenda in my opinion.Having said that,The DNC,will not get my vote...Fairness and Unity,yeah right.

    June 1, 2008 11:51 am at 11:51 am |
  13. Joel

    If Clinton backers actually switch to McCain instead on Obama, then it is irrefutable proof that her base truly is uneducated. She knows FL and MI broke the rules. She supported the punishment when it was meted out. Now she wants to CHANGE THE RULES TO HER BENEFIT. It would be a glaring display of the same scorched-earth policy Clinton has abided by in running her campaign. We, as Americans, as Democrats, MUST do what’s best for the country. Surely, there is not one sane, reasonably intelligent person who feels McCain is better for the country that Obama is. McCain will continue to do to this country what Bush has been doing and we know THAT is not good for the people of this county or our standing in the global community. It is time to unite; for change; for the party, for America.

    June 1, 2008 11:51 am at 11:51 am |
  14. Greg, Phoenix, AZ

    This is just sad.

    This is all due to Hillary's slash and burn campaign to try and do anything she could to try and halt Obama's momentum.

    She used her gender, used her race, and even tried to cheat the system in her pursuit of the nomination and all she ended up doing is putting a rift within the Party.

    If the Democratic Party were to lose this race (and I don't think it will), a lion share of the blame will have to fall on Hillary for engaging in a win at all cost campaign.

    June 1, 2008 11:51 am at 11:51 am |
  15. Mary

    In my 72 years, I have never seen an election where a person not on the ballot was given votes/delegates. Obama removed his name. He should not be awarded one delegate. Shame on you, DNC.
    Obama also broke the rules in Florida by using TV ads for 10 days. I believe he should be punished.

    June 1, 2008 11:51 am at 11:51 am |
  16. Robert

    Of course they'll go to McSame–they're all closet Republicans! They're not real Democrats.

    This is one of THE stupidest things I've heard of–"If Hillary doesn't get it, I'm going to vote for Bush-Lite so we have FOUR MORE YEARS of represssion and economic FAILURE!"

    Yeah, that's the way to improve quality of life.

    Come on people, pull your heads out and vote for the Democratic nominee, whomever that may be.

    June 1, 2008 11:51 am at 11:51 am |
  17. tj

    I am a moderate democrat.
    I never will vote for Obama.
    The way those primaries were held, the way media completely fell for Obama and was 100% backing him, the way DNC begaved – it turned me off DNC and all leftest media channels – CNN, MSNBC, etc.
    I never will watch CNN though before it was my favorite channel.
    I just cannot look any more on Cafferty, Cooper and all other so called best political team
    The same way with DNC.
    I just cannot vote Obama because I see he is not fit to be president.
    It will be either staying home, or writing in Hillary or voting McCain.
    Sorry, DNC and media. It is completely your fault

    June 1, 2008 11:52 am at 11:52 am |
  18. Caryn, WDC

    It doesn't surprise me that Hillary supporter would vote for McCain. They're all selfish like Hillary.

    After all, Clinton was duped into voting for the war just like McCain.

    We don't need you, we can win without you.

    And your actions aren't doing anything to unify this party so there's no place in our White House for you.

    June 1, 2008 11:52 am at 11:52 am |
  19. Larry Buchas

    People need to calm down and use their intelligence, not emotions, to decide who they want in the White House.

    There was no way Hillary could overcome the delegate numbers to win the nomination. In fact, Barack has gone out of his way to praise her and agreed its within her rights to continue the primaries.

    The truth of the matter is the Florida & Michigan primaries were flawed and some compromise had to be reached. Most of the committee were Hillary supporters. That fact has to be taken in consideration.

    The questions remain:

    1. Are you willing to continue spending trillions on this unthinkable war?

    2. Are you willing to give up a quest for better health care?

    3. Are you willing to give up women's right to choose because you're upset with Barack Obama?

    June 1, 2008 11:52 am at 11:52 am |
  20. mj - florida

    I don't understand, a democrat allowing our troops to stay in this war, to allow them to die in an unjust war, just because their candidate did get elected. it blows my mind.

    June 1, 2008 11:52 am at 11:52 am |
  21. American Patriot

    Now we all see what the Clinton campaign is all about.
    They throw fit's and threats if they cant win.

    Go ahead and Vote for John McBush, he has no chance in the world at winning.

    See the whole country is sick of Repulicans and all the crooks and indictments.

    If Hillary wont win I will vote for Mcush, how freaken childish are these people.

    John McBush wins, and your all going to lose your jobs and pay 10 buks a gallon for gas.

    Go figure, this is what happens when a bunch of woman vote for a candidate soley because she is a woman.

    Go look at her voting record, she has never voted on behalf or in favor of American Woman.

    She only votes for big business where she has millons in stock.

    By the way she is charging the secret service $10,000.00 a Month to live in their guest house and provide them Secret Service protection that we pay for.

    By the way the house payment on their 5 Millon dollar mansion is $10,000.00 a Month.

    Yes we are paying for security and were paying for their Mansion.

    Funny how Clinton supporters never mention that.

    YOUTUBE – END GAME by Alex Jones.

    Your future is in danger

    You have been warned

    June 1, 2008 11:52 am at 11:52 am |
  22. Josie

    This is the first time I ever vote, and my vote will only go to Hillary Clinton. I have followed democrat candidates for years but was never motivated to vote for someone till this year. McCain does not have my vote but neither does Obama. I know many people that feel the same.

    Josie

    June 1, 2008 11:52 am at 11:52 am |
  23. John Wilson

    From promising candidate to confirmed hyporcite; that is the Clinton legacy for Campaign 2008. Never satisfied, ungrateful, and spiteful describe Clinton and her followers. The DNC moved the "Finish Line," awarded Clinton delegates that previously "did not count" and even weighted the delegates in Clinton's favor. After all that, Harold Icke was "stunned" and claimed that 4 votes were taken away from his candidate. Is there no end to the fantasy campaign?? Oh, and you women are going to vote for John McCain? I Dare You! If he wins, you can kiss goodbye Row vs. Wade, women's equal rights and the progress that enabled Clinton to run for President. It was not the "Rules" that caused Hillary to get behind; it was her own hypocricy.

    June 1, 2008 11:52 am at 11:52 am |
  24. Giftedmind

    People should be careful about what they say as long as they can read.
    Why are rules made? What are rules supposed to enforce? The 48 states that honored the rules and the two states which did not honor the rules of the party.
    Will you all the happy if MICHIGAN delegates are not seated so that Hillary and OBAMA each score 0? And don't forget if you follow all that Hillary has been saying. Hillary herself said that MICHIGAN won't count. That's her own words. How come now she wants those counts to count? What was she thinking when she said: MICHIGAN won't count? Was she drinking or what? Now she's having tough times and she's like EVERY VOTE counts, how on earth will a dog go back to its VORMIT? Isn't that terribly bizare?
    She know she's going to lose so she's terribly making everything to make sure she can be considered. However, she's isn't going to win else i'll leave USA.

    June 1, 2008 11:52 am at 11:52 am |
  25. Raj

    As a Canadian watching the politcal events on CNN, I feel with all the events that have happened over the last few months and in particular over the last few days, I had to at at least say ....WOW!!! To me as an outsider, it seems that the Democratic party, is so split! There are such harsh remarks from each side of the campaign, more so Hillary supporters, that it seems to me that most people on the Hillary side, have no intension of uniting the party. It has been very entertaining to learn so much about this Democratic party, which seems to potentially be, a great change for USA. However, one thing has really come through with the behaviour of Hillary Clintons supporters,....if they do not get what they want, they will be nasty, and may even then support McCain. That, at the least, shows true disdain, and no loyalty to your party, just selfishness......wow how ugly politics can be, and how powerful hatred really is!!!!

    June 1, 2008 11:52 am at 11:52 am |
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