June 2, 2008
Posted: June 2nd, 2008 09:00 AM ET

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 Clinton says she is the winner of the popular vote in a new ad.
Clinton says she is the winner of the popular vote in a new ad.

(CNN) - In the latest sign Hillary Clinton isn't yet preparing to bow out of the presidential race, the New York senator is launching a new television ad Monday that highlights her claim she is beating Barack Obama in the popular vote.

The spot is set to run in the remaining two primary states - Montana and South Dakota - and argues Clinton has won “more votes than anyone in the history of the Democratic primaries.”

“Some say there isn’t a single reason for Hillary to be the Democratic nominee,” the ad's announcer states. “They’re right. There are over 17 million of them.”

Clinton echoed that argument in her Puerto Rican victory speech Sunday evening, declaring, "When the voting concludes on Tuesday…I will lead the popular vote."

"The decision [on who will be the nominee] will fall on the shoulders of those leaders in our party empowered by the rules to vote at the Democratic Convention," she also said.

Clinton's claim to winning the popular vote is debatable. Including the results from Clinton’s big win in Puerto Rico, she can only be considered the popular vote winner if the results from Michigan (where Obama was not on the ballot) are counted for her and Obama is awarded no votes from that state. But 237,762 voted "uncommitted" in that contest and the Obama campaign argues many of them were supporters of the Illinois senator.

In that scenario, Clinton holds a lead of 183,000 votes. But if Obama is awarded the uncommitted votes in Michigan, he comes out on top in the overall popular vote by 45,000 votes. Of all votes cast, that margin constitutes a difference of 0.1 percent.

Clinton can also be considered the popular vote leader if only the primary contests are included, and all caucus results are excluded. In that scenario, the New York Democrat is on top by more than 257,000 votes.

All scenarios don't include results from the non-binding primaries in Idaho and Nebraska.

Filed under: Barack Obama • Hillary Clinton


mira   June 2nd, 2008 10:28 am ET

i have a hard time understanding the logic behind this claim. if HC pushes for every vote to count, why does she skip those uncommitted votes that people chose because their candidate wasn't on ballet? how come it is o.k. for these to stay uncounted? people expressed their opinion by choosing them. most of us would just stayed at home, and didn't even bother
and what about the votes of people that wanted to vote, but didn't do it, because the rules said it wouldn't mean anything anyway? their voice won't be heard. now it looks like DNC was lying to people, first telling them, even if you vote, your vote won't count and now when they decide to count them HC wants really to count just some of them that fit her agenda. how sad. she even has guts to put this ad out and press the issue everywhere she goes, but she really doesn't mean every vote, she means every hillary vote. to me she is straight up lying.

SOS   June 2nd, 2008 10:28 am ET

Hillary please understand we do not want the SOS any longer. We need change and you are not the one that can make it happen. We don't need Billie Boy helping to direct this country. He couldn't even handle his own family affairs...by the way where is Billie? Haven't heard from him much lately...will probably leave you since you have lost....

Eric in Ca   June 2nd, 2008 10:27 am ET

Popular vote has never been the metric in a primary contest. By Hillary's own words and the rules of the DNC, DELEGATES are the metric to pick a nominee.
Hillary for the good of the party, it's time to concede and endorse Obama.

IG   June 2nd, 2008 10:27 am ET

Nice how she can declare she'll have won the popular vote after Tuesday before the last states have even voted (notwithstanding the fact that everyone knows it isn't true). At the same time, she is furious anytime someone suggests that clearly, Obama will win the delegate race and the nomination (a fact that anyone smart enough to count to 2118 can see)..

Prakash   June 2nd, 2008 10:27 am ET

U know, she is a real lousy loser. She NEVER though she was ever gonna lose.

She does not know how to bow out gracefully. She should in fact learn from Obama...whenever he loses, he congrates her. She never seem to do the same.

The question her is that, if she can't take losing properly, how is she gonna lead a superpower???

I hope she does everyone a favour by packing up and leaving, asap.

Let's get on with the General Election!!!

American Defender   June 2nd, 2008 10:27 am ET

People should ask themselves....Why is Hillary running so hard?
Seriuosly.....I don't believe it's for or because of the people. If it was then for her to agree to not counting the delegates of Florida and Michigan would have never happened. Then when things were not going her way she campaigned to have them counted. Now she wants to talk about popular vote??? Sounds to me like someone dosen't care about the bigger picture..just her narrow view of it.

Obama dosen't need to speak about winning anything...he needs to let the proccess speak for itself. Loose lips sink ships and bandwagons.

Rooster   June 2nd, 2008 10:27 am ET

What about all the people that didn't vote because their vote wasn't going to count? I've heard a lot of voters in FL/MI that didn't vote because it wasn't going to count. I guess she doesn't care about all of America just her America.

Lorna M.   June 2nd, 2008 10:27 am ET

I ask that the Clinton campaign employ some consistency in its argument about who has the popular vote.

If the crux of Clinton's argument that she leads in the popular vote is because "every vote must count," then how can her tally show her leading if she DISCOUNTS the votes cast in Nebraska and Idaho (where Obama won 68% and 79% of the votes, respectively) and in Michigan (where Obama's name wasn't on the ballot and about 240,000 voters chose Uncommitted in support of Obama).

If we include those votes... because every vote must count... then Obama LEADS in the popular vote by 98,006 votes. Is it just me, or does it sound like the Clinton campaign is conveniently using fuzzy math?

cindy   June 2nd, 2008 10:26 am ET

her supporters are just crazy like her..they all actin like they cannot see the reality.....loser
go obama with the new slogan..fired up, ready to go...
obama u are my man...

Tina, NC   June 2nd, 2008 10:26 am ET

Wow. Check out the picture they posted with this one. Notice the womn with the big sign Every Vote Counts.

Someone should ask Clinton how EXCLUDING votes in the caucus states and giving Obama NO votes in Michigan goes with the message of "Every Vote Counts. They should have added a little disclaimer at the bottom that says:

Unless you voted in
A caucus state or you voted for Obama in Michigan.

Bitter in Texas   June 2nd, 2008 10:26 am ET

I guess that depends on Who's counting and what they are counting?? Sen. Clinton Tuesday evening would be a god time to exit stage left...Thank you.

John Starnes Tampa Florida   June 2nd, 2008 10:26 am ET

As important as this race is, let's not forget that the same basic electoral processes, including touch screen machines with no paper trail made by Bush family corporate friend Diebold, that allowed the last two presidential elections to be tampered with, are still in place! For the first time ever, the U.S. banned international monitoring of our last election even though we demand OTHER nations submit to them, and it is clear that Florida and Ohio votes were tampered with in 2000 and 2004. Instead of being distracted by lapel pins and wacko ministers and Hillary vs. Obama as the new "bread and circuses", we must as a people demand a paper trail for EACH AND EVERY vote. America simply cannot afford to have democracy sabotaged a third time....too much is at stake. Tampered with elections GOT us into the current tragic mess we struggle with daily.

Brian   June 2nd, 2008 10:26 am ET

Why doesn't she bring up the fact that she has only 47.9% of the poplar vote! MORE people voted AGAINST her, than for her!

Paul   June 2nd, 2008 10:26 am ET

If every vote counts, then she should count all of us in states that had caucuses.

NickNas   June 2nd, 2008 10:26 am ET

Hundreds of MILLIONS of American know this. HILLARY DOESN'T CARE!!!!

Why aren't her supporters from CAUCAS States FURIOUS with this Woman!?

She has said to ALL of her supporters in Smaller states AND Caucas States that they are meaningless and she values ( AND COUNTS) The Votes from NON state NON Citizen and NON Tax Paying PR MORE than them!!

Are her supporters not smart enough to see this OR do they care that they back a person who dumps them in the trash after they vote???

Fred   June 2nd, 2008 10:26 am ET

This lady is going to loose.....I mean lose.

MI Women 4 Obama!   June 2nd, 2008 10:26 am ET

Hillary's big laugh in the picture makes it look like she's laughing at the nation....HA! I [Hillary] am pulling the wool over thier eyes.

It's so sad that she just can't play straight, she's always twisting things for some kind of advantage. Well, Hillary – you are not ahead in the popular vote because Causas states count...!

OBAMA 08/12!

TexasDem   June 2nd, 2008 10:26 am ET

I'm an Obama supporter, so it would be helpful to him for Clinton to bow out. But as an American, I don't think she should. I don't understand this whole notion that she shouldn't be able to campaign. Her views are closely aligned with Obama's views, so why is there so much hate from Obama supporters? Let her exercise her freedoms and let the primaries play out.

Whether or not she holds the popular vote is debatable, but it's politics. Either candidate can say that at this point. No political campaign would be able to resist the temptation of making that claim.

Cashman   June 2nd, 2008 10:26 am ET

Typical Clintonian politics - let's count those states where she looks good, but don't count all those caucuses that she lost. This is the same type of political garbage that all those people that voted for Barack Obama don't want to see in Washington anymore.

Somebody needs to tell "Senator Ahab" that it's over.

Beverly, NYC   June 2nd, 2008 10:25 am ET

Hillary, the stronger candidate is the one winning the primary. Must be nice living in that head. Hopefully you will also have time between now and June 4th to reflect on how your action are affecting the party and the country you claim to care about. Thanks for making the next woman's job harder!! You represent every divisive thing men say and think about women in power. I admire tenacity, I am not a fan of entitled delusion.

New goal post: Popular vote and Denver.

Hillary, please seek therapy!

SOPHIA,23, FLORIDA VOTER   June 2nd, 2008 10:25 am ET

Notice- SHE'S THE ONLY ONE SAYING SHE WON THE POPULAR VOTE.

THAT'S FALSE ADVERTISING!

MD in GA   June 2nd, 2008 10:25 am ET

There are millions of us who are SOOOOO tired. Senator Obama has asked us to remain peaceful and we have but make no mistake, we are out here. Just like Senator Clinton's people claim they will tank Senator Obama's run for the Presidency, like it or not, if "AA's and Eggheads" (Blacks, well educationed and young voters) stay at home, she couldn't win either. Remember a split in the party goes both ways. Trust this, there is devision and then there is devision...

RTB   June 2nd, 2008 10:25 am ET

Cheaters may win some of the times, but in the long haul, its more baggage that Clinton have to will bury herself with.

Joe   June 2nd, 2008 10:25 am ET

You know, when you only count the votes of my three dogs, I'm ahead in the popular vote. When it comes to deciding the Democratic party's nominee for President, the "my three dogs" scenario is just as valid as the claims Senator Clinton is making. Sorry, every day she just looks more and more delusional. I agree with Governor Vilsack. It's over Hillary!

Parish   June 2nd, 2008 10:24 am ET

Kinda funny that this commerical had to be already shot and ready prior to it being aired on Sunday. She's going to go on till the rest of the Clinton sheep donate enough to get her out of debt. Then she can pay herself back the 9 million that she's loaned her own campaign. Let's get this over with and unite please!

New Politics   June 2nd, 2008 10:24 am ET

Honestly, there is true perspective of a popular vote do to primaries and caucuses counts are different. Sen. Clinton and her spokespeople need to stop the changing rules to justify their position. This is sad. Remember, eight years we had another person who would do anything to be President and look at our country now.

Godwin   June 2nd, 2008 10:24 am ET

She's turning herself into an enemy of progress right now. She as well as every voter out there knows that this is all about deligates. Her ambition is getting annoying.

Nick in Las Vegas   June 2nd, 2008 10:24 am ET

I hope and pray that the Democrats unite behind Senator Hillary Clinton. Barack Obama would make a terrible choice for nominee. I do not think for a second he will win in November and I would rather vote for McCain then Obama. McCain won my respect as a public Servant some time ago. Obama has yet to do that and judging from the way his campaign has been, he will not change my vote before November. Many people I know feel the same way. PARTY LEADERS SHOULD PAY ATTENTION. MANY OF US DON'T WANT OBAMA!

American In Amsterdam   June 2nd, 2008 10:24 am ET

It is over this time.

She needs not to obfuscate the issue with fuzzy math. If I only count all the votes for me I am in the lead and you are not.

It makes no sense. Unless.......

A real live scenario is for Hillary to take this out another week (or longer) and then only half heartedly support Obama hoping he fails.

She can then crow I told you so" for 4 years.

Her best shot back is 2012, not 2016. In 2016 she will be too old to effectively run and win. If not now, 2012 is her only chance.

Obama should be afraid of her real intentions.

manie   June 2nd, 2008 10:24 am ET

Also Obama`s delegates -44 to go as todays date.

Bob Indianapolis, IN   June 2nd, 2008 10:24 am ET

Inevitability has shifted. Get over it!

Sarah   June 2nd, 2008 10:24 am ET

Get over it Hillary...no matter which way you spin it, you won't be the nominee! At the start of the debate on Saturday to sit the FL and MI delegates, Howard Dean said "This is not about Hillary Clinton. This is not about Barack Obama. This is about our country." Barack graciously agreed to the 60-40 split in Michigan, even though he followed the rules and took his name off the ballot there. I am sure if we did this over and both candidates had campaigned in FL and MI, Barack would have been the winner. This is not about you Hillary...please start listening to the American people...we don't want you!

Drew   June 2nd, 2008 10:23 am ET

How can you even consider counting votes in MI when Obama WASN'T EVEN ON THE BALLOT. Kind of makes Hillary's win in that state a sure thing, huh? Oh, and wasn't she all about discounting MI and FL when they moved the primaries up? Seems she feels a little different now that she's trailing....

Mel   June 2nd, 2008 10:23 am ET

Hillary, you know the drill,it's about the delegates.not the popular
vote. Why is it so difficult for to accept your defeat and help the
party,which your backer are fefusing to support Obama and I
think you have a good ideal why.He's done nothing to them he only
ran for and office that anyone is entitled to if they choose to. The
world is changing,let's continues this change we all are equal in
this country we call american.

Jay Gutfield   June 2nd, 2008 10:23 am ET

The Democrat Party = The Black Liberation Party.

Ms Clinton should run as an Independent.

Puffin   June 2nd, 2008 10:23 am ET

She must be burned-out. I wish her and her family happiness.

TL   June 2nd, 2008 10:23 am ET

Straight from Hillary's campaign to Wolf Blitzer's mouth. Can he discern b.s. from fact? Or is he mearly a Clinton pawn? Because yesterday he sure was pushing the popular vote theme for her.

Hillary 08, the electable candidate   June 2nd, 2008 10:23 am ET

Wolfsbane.

I find it hard to swallow that all of the Obama supporters just expect Hillary to fix all of Obama's electability problems.

Obviously, the swing voters are voting for Hillary. I think we are all trying to let you guys know we don't like your candidate.

No matter how much Hillary campains for Obama, he will still be unelectable. So don't blame Hillary, blame your candidate for having so many shady radical and terrorist supporting friends.

Hillary 08 or McCain if necessary.

me in dc   June 2nd, 2008 10:23 am ET

It's called "Hillary math". It's difficult to master because it changes constantly, depending on the circumstances.

R. Phillips   June 2nd, 2008 10:23 am ET

so let me get this straight...she isn't counting the caucus votes? I thought every vote MUST be counted...WHAT A HYPOCRITE!!! She is only concerned with herself and not what's good for the party or the country.

OBAMA 08!!!

Jack Jodell, Minneapolis, MN   June 2nd, 2008 10:23 am ET

Hang it up, Hillary. This claim is ridiculous, especially considering Obama FOLLOWED THE RULES by not putting his name on the Michigan ballot but you DID. You cannot truthfully lay claim to Michigan's votes, because HAD Obama had his name on the ballot, you would have lost to him there, too. HANG IT UP HILLARY AND GET BEHIND THE OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT MOVEMENT!

marie from missouri   June 2nd, 2008 10:23 am ET

Hilliary, don't be another Hucklebee....LET IT GO so the democratic party can move on. If the super's wanted to switch they would have done so a long time ago...whether or not Obama was leading. This is part of YOUR type of old politico games. Don't you recognize it?.

Terri in Texas   June 2nd, 2008 10:22 am ET

Last time I checked, the popular vote doesn't win the race. Clinton needs to concede the nomination and stop trying to change the rules. She needs to realize people are tired of listening to her crying she should be appointed the presidential nominee. The nomination isn't an appointment, there isn't royal family in the US, she needs to quit acting as if she is owed the nomination.

aughhhh   June 2nd, 2008 10:22 am ET

She keeps saying that every vote counts, but she is not counting the votes in the caucus states. How convenient, since they voted majority for Obama. This must be the "new math" according to the Clintons. She seems to not be able to accept no for an answer. Living in a dream world must be exhausting, I know watching it sure is! It's time she put the country and the Democratic party before her own needs.

obama08   June 2nd, 2008 10:22 am ET

repeating a lie over and over again will not make it the truth – hillary needs to hang it up already

Ben   June 2nd, 2008 10:22 am ET

It is sad to hear of this cling to the race by claiming the popular vote victory at this stage of the game. Perhaps she should remember what happened to our Country as Al Gore who had the popular vote lost to Bush with the help of Ralph Nader. Does Hillary want to be the "Nader" of this election as she breaths life into McCain's campaign?

Roger   June 2nd, 2008 10:22 am ET

So, Hillary is so determined that every vote counts no matter what the rules . So why does not count the votes coming out of the caucuses and the non-binding primaries??? So I gather that the only rules that matter are ones that Hillary comes up with. What a hypocrite!

Whatever   June 2nd, 2008 10:21 am ET

Her denial of the obvious is erily similar to GWB's that we've seen for the last 7.5 years. I'm sorry, but while I truly respected her at the beginning of this campaign, I have to say that she has all but erased any thought I've ever had of voting for her. Not because she is a woman either, but because she has shown that she feels this is all about her. I'm surprised her ad didn't have her in front of a "Mission Accomplished" banner.

EJshow   June 2nd, 2008 10:21 am ET

"We have won in all the States that Counts, You all know that the States that Obama won dont count anywhere at all, and we dont need them in November. The following States dont mean a thing:
Iowa, South Carolina, Alabama, Alaska, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, North Dakota, Utah, Louisiana, Nebraska, Washington, Maine, Washington, D.C., Maryland, Virginia, Hawaii, Wisconsin, Vermont, U.S. Virgin Islands, Democrats Abroad, Wyoming, Mississippi, Guam, North Carolina, and Oregon.
Obama just won 33 states so far against my 22. Oh and i am going to fight for Puerto Ricans Vote to be counted in November."

I am the Nomneee.

Gary in VA   June 2nd, 2008 10:21 am ET

I think the catholic priest hit the nail on the head. It is getting a little pathetic of this irrational behavior. I once like hillary and thought she might would be a good president. At this point I think she has messed it up for future female candidates. They will never get as far as she has because people will look back at this circus and aviod the possibility of going thru this again. She should be cautious because at this rate she may not be elect back in the senate and have to do a Lieberman. My prayers go out to her, but stop the madness.

katiec   June 2nd, 2008 10:21 am ET

I certainly would not want the Clintons teaching math to our students!
The addition, subtraction changes daily, including figures only beneficial to the Clintons.
I can imagine the voters of the caucus states are in an uproar, as
Hillary claims their votes should not count.
Have you ever seen a presidential candidate, who is supposed to
have integrity, promising, trying to change rules, laws to her
benefit?
Have never seen anything like it.
How could anyone possibly trust her?

Rich C   June 2nd, 2008 10:21 am ET

Good Grief Hillary! You're beating a dead horse. Suck it up, accept your defeat, and start trying to help your party.

JB   June 2nd, 2008 10:21 am ET

This is unbelievable. I love how this woman makes up the rules as she goes. Obviously to her benefit, and then, makes everyone else play by her rules. She is disgusting, and her supporters are more disgusting for letting her do it, by simply regurgitating the crap that comes out of her mouth!

She should not have received any additonal delegates from MI or FL. They were contests THAT DID NOT COUNT, and should not have counted. Her fake concern for MI and FL, was just another veiled atempt to manipulate the system.

PLEASE GO AWAY.

And she will not. She wil take this to the convention, arguing that she has a right to try and change the SD's mind. She will lose that attempt, and Obama will have no time to prepare for McCain. Obama will lose, and Hillary will say I told you so, again shirking responsibility. All the while her blind, idiotic supporters will also say that it isn't Hillary's fault.

mk   June 2nd, 2008 10:20 am ET

I feel sorry for the people that actually have believed her all along. And the people that are actually donating to her campaign – It's money burnt.

DJ in TX   June 2nd, 2008 10:20 am ET

For someone who was stating all 50 states should count, why does she dismiss the states with caucuses? That is the one thing that bothers me the most. She's also claiming PR, but in reality they can't vote in the general election.

She dismisses the caucus states, but then will turn around and ask for their vote?

Michael, Farmington, NH   June 2nd, 2008 10:20 am ET

Hillary might be on to something if the nomination and the general election were decided by the popular vote. They are not. Her point is moot.

Swing and a miss Hillary.

Ed From Milwaukee WI- Swing State   June 2nd, 2008 10:20 am ET

Clinton just doesn’t know when to stop; she didn’t get the turn out in Puerto Rico like she had hoped. Then she could actually have the popular vote claim, but this is Hillary and she can claim what she wants. She doesn’t even have the popular vote, so why would she release this ad? Any way DP primaries are about delegate’s not popular vote. They don’t even record popular vote in caucus. I wonder which form of mathematics her campaign is using?; it must be something not of this earth.

marianna   June 2nd, 2008 10:20 am ET

the caucuses in at least 3 states should be declared inconclusive, for the reason of how many people took part. Obama/Clinton votes in these 3 and 2 other states were:
Alaska: 302 / 103 (74% / 25%)
Iowa: 940 / 737 (38% / 29%)
Maine: 2079 / 1397 (59% /40%)
Nevada: 4773 / 5355 (45% / 51%)
Wyoming:5378 / 3312 (61%/38%)

Numbers of participants were just ridiculously low.

Kyle   June 2nd, 2008 10:20 am ET

Notice that Obama isn't really responding. He is focused on McCain. Nice to see at least he has integrity.

what a shame !   June 2nd, 2008 10:20 am ET

What a shame, the entire planet watching the US, the leading nationt, being dragged in mod by this delusional, selfcentered drama queen.

What a Shame for woman. Segolene Royal in France had the dignity of a presidential candidate even when she lost to Sarcozy.

Hillary is giving amunisions to those who say a woman canot be president for she would come with to much irrational drama !

Hillary we want to keep being proud of you. BUT for now, PLS GO AWAY.
AND we know you re trying to reduce the democrat chances this year so you could have better chances in 2012 after McCain. DNC SHOULD SUR her for distroying the parti's reputation and reliability.

Niccole   June 2nd, 2008 10:20 am ET

Unbelievable, Clinton will change the rules to suit her. Clinton will argue non-stop about disenfranchising the Michigan and Florida votes but has NO PROBLEM disenfranchising the caucus votes in 11 states or so to get to HER conclusion that she has the popular vote.

GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!

Dennis   June 2nd, 2008 10:19 am ET

I'm tired of the TIRED argument that the Clinton camp continues to make about Hillary being the most electable candidate. Will a Hillary supporter please answer the following:

1) If Super Delegates were to elect Hillary based on the popular vote in leiu of the delegate count, which is how nominees are elected, how would she hold on to those 17 milliion Obama voters who would be alienated by such a vote?

The Republicans are disenchanted with John McCain. There are concerns that many Repubs may stay home during the general election and that a good number may even vote for Obama. If she were to be the candidate, she would not get any votes from Repubs and it is believed that Repubs would come out on droves, not to vote for McCain, but cast there vote in opposition of Hillary.

2) Can Hillary really be considered the strongest candidate if she damages her own base by stealing the democratic election and galvanizes the Republican base at the same time?

The MSM is in this more to get ratings than to do real reporting. As a lay person who has watched this election closely, to me it's obvious that the super d's cannot vote to elect Clinton for the two reason mentioned above.

jesus saves   June 2nd, 2008 10:19 am ET

Hey....leave Hillary alone! if she wants to spend her money to finance her campaign, let her! obviously she knows something that we don't know. she is the voice of the people (the ones in her head) so let us not argue about this. she's going to win, she has the popular vote, even though as of right now Obama has it, she has it...it belongs to her. even after tomorrow when obama has won all the delegates needed to get to 2118 she's going to win. she knows that her supporters know that, now lets everyone else get on the same page.

Hillary for President (president of green hills mental facility)

John in Virgina   June 2nd, 2008 10:19 am ET

So her argument is "count all the votes" but don't count the states where there is only a caucus and not a primary? Come on. The commercial is a blatent lie and misleading.

Proud1of 26% in WV   June 2nd, 2008 10:19 am ET

I meant to say 350,000 to 0 in Michigan.

Phil   June 2nd, 2008 10:19 am ET

For all the short-sighted Clinton supporters who have threatened NOT to support Obama in November consider this; a very likely 7-2 conservative Supreme Court during a McCain administration. Say goodbye to Roe v. Wade as it currently stands.

Mariah   June 2nd, 2008 10:18 am ET

AS ONE OF APPROXIMATELY 50 MILLION WORKING, TAX PAYING WHITE WOMEN IN AMERICA, WE WILL VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON ON A WRITE IN BALLOT AND NEVER VOTE FOR EITHER OF THE OTHER TWO FOOLS RUNNING. DEMOCRATS BETTER BE FORWARNED. WE WILL NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA.

Chanda Cincinnati Ohio   June 2nd, 2008 10:18 am ET

If you clap four times, walk counter clockwise in a circle, throw salt over your left shoulder, and stand on one leg while whistling O' Susanna, then the popular vote goes to hillary as well!!!

Kenneth M   June 2nd, 2008 10:18 am ET

Connecticut State Chair Nancy DiNardo has endorsed Obama. Virginia DNC member Jerome Wiley Segovia has endorsed Obama.
I suppose these two know that it is Delegates not the popular vote that count.

Boered1   June 2nd, 2008 10:17 am ET

I am not surprised by the childish actions of the Clinton supporters, they did just what she told them to do, act like her, whine, cry and pule because they were not granted a free ride. The FACTS have not changed, the DNC told ALL candidates to remove their names from the Michigan ballot, Clinton decided she does not ahve to listen to the DNC and left her name on the ballot. The ONLY people that voted in Florida were the wealthy homeowners, you know the retired white people, and OF course they voted for Clinton Duh.. and yet she cries these were fair votes and her supporters whined that she was not annointed the winner.
Personallly I wish the DNC had not caved to the crybabies who did not bother to cry LAST SUMMER when it would have made a difference but instead wanted to cry now because they are not getting their way. Childish and unforgivable, after voting for Obama this November I WILL be dropping MY membership from the DNC.

Watermann   June 2nd, 2008 10:17 am ET

I have tried to find out how the remaining figures regarding MT and SD look like in o0rder to get a clear picture. Reference has been made to the CNN website and USA election polls. Here are my results

Sen. Obama Sen. Clinton
Pledged Del. 1,741 1,624
Superdel. 329 291
Total 2,070 1,915
Magic Number 2.118 2,118
short by 38 203
given proportionally MT 4 7
SD 10 9
still short 32 176
balance between both of them 144
Taking the a.m. figures into account, Sen. Clinton needs a miracle, an executiv order from party leaders towards the undeclared superdelegates or any kind of favourable decision by the Credentials Committee. Since we are talking about the USA and not some kind of "Banana Republic" I am looking forward to the next days.

Annie   June 2nd, 2008 10:17 am ET

I feel sorry for Obama...he wants to wrap it up this week! Why? Is there another radical in the shadows? Another Wright, Hamas, Pfleger, Sharpton, etc.....etc.....etc......? It will be wrapped up when Hillary goes to the convention....otherwise, we ALL go for McCain!

Chris from San Antonio   June 2nd, 2008 10:17 am ET

She definitely has the advantage in the state of denial.

EVERY VOTE COUNTS! (except caucus states, small states, and all the other ones I didn't win)

Mark   June 2nd, 2008 10:17 am ET

Sen. Clinton has garnered millions of votes. Sen. Obama has received more. While it obviously feels incomprehensible to Sen. Clinton that she should receive so many votes and still lose the nomination, that is the fact of the matter.

Even if she were "more electable" than Sen. Obama in a general election - an arguable proposition at best - the point is moot. It is time for Sen. Clinton to set aside her personal ambition in favor of the nation's best interests, and help elect a Democratic president.

Terry   June 2nd, 2008 10:17 am ET

The people should deside who is the nominee by total vote and caucuses is the dumbest thing I have ever heard of. Your vote counts 1 time and everyone is on the same level. The one with the most votes wins. The supers do not have any more power with a vote than we do. What is wrong with that??? Just like in November does our vote really count?? For Hillary she is going lose because of Michigan, Florida, and the stupid caucuses. What a shame!!!!!!!!!

Sheila WA   June 2nd, 2008 10:17 am ET

Ok..Will someone figure out a way to count the votes from the caucas states? Let's end this popular vote nonsense once and for all. It's nice that my caucas vote is being disenfranchised (haha) from selecting the nominee.. Ooops, as Bill Clinton would probably say if Hillary were winning the delegate contest, " it's the delegates stupid"

Ben   June 2nd, 2008 10:16 am ET

What is wrong with her? She says she has more popular votes but then only counts what is going to make her take the lead and disregards the rest! Hillary lost and it's been clear since North Carolina. If she had any kind of moral character she would stop with the victim speach and start backing the clear nominee Barack Obama. I'm sorry but I think something snapped in Hillary's brain. Is she still going to be complaining up to the swearing in of Obama next January?

MD   June 2nd, 2008 10:16 am ET

This is absurd. Clinton is living in La La Land! As she continues, more and more super delegates are declaring for Obama.

I think her approach to popular vote issue is pushing the super delegates to come out for Obama sooner than they may have intended in order to put a stop to this charade.

new york   June 2nd, 2008 10:15 am ET

how could she quit now? its so close and it comes down to super delegates. the same super delegates she controlled for much of the time. this race seems like a dead heat with out them. Hilary Clinton still has a decent chance and her qualities being displayed right now is not only incredible but going unnoticed.

Hillary, Liar on day 1   June 2nd, 2008 10:15 am ET

The only thing popular about Hillary are her lies.

Hey Hillary, why did you say this in SD:

"…..and my father, he had a fulltime job since the age of 11…. :D and my mother had a fulltime job since the age of 13 so I stand on their shoulders and understand the meaning of hard work"

Another lie branded by Hillary Clinton. She can't be trusted to tell the truth about her father nevertheless run a state.

NY wants you OUT! :o

Chanda Cincinnati Ohio   June 2nd, 2008 10:15 am ET

After Tomorrow, when Obama wins Montana and S. Dakota, will Hillary suppoters still back this woman all the way to August.? Will her supporters still refuse to believe that this is about the power for Hillary? With the country in the shape that it is in, and everything that is at stake for the Democrats in November, if she does not bow out after he reaches the necessary delegates to win, I think someone should charge her with treason!!!! Democrats can not afford to waste time until August. Hillary, Its time to back Senator Obama and get DC back in November. You will not be the nominee, and you are driving a wedge through this party that may not be able to be repaired. Democrats need to stop being so stupid, and start thinking about the big picture. UNITE AT THE POLLS IN NOVEMBER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Democrat   June 2nd, 2008 10:15 am ET

Wonder how all those caucus states feel about NOT being counted in her popular vote scenerio or the people in Michigan who voted for Obama?

For somebody who has been preaching about counting every vote she sure is a hypocrite to say the least.

Just wait, CNN will allow this blog to be filled with Clinton comments that won't even read the article. First they'll say she's right and then say they'll vote for McCain.

What a shame!

De'Andre   June 2nd, 2008 10:15 am ET

All I can do is laught

Brian   June 2nd, 2008 10:15 am ET

Leading the popular vote in he quest for the Presidency is equivalent to saying:

in baseball – I have more hits
in football – i have more first downs
in hockey and soccer – i have more shots on goal
in basketball – i have a better FG pct.

NEVER in this country has a president been elected due to the popular vote. You win the presidency by the Electoral College, you win the nomination by the delegates.

You win a baseball game by runs
You win football and basketball games by points
You in hockey and soccer games by goals

AJ   June 2nd, 2008 10:15 am ET

Can someone reminder her that this isn't about popular votes but about delegates?

Hillary, Liar on day 1   June 2nd, 2008 10:14 am ET

The only thing popular about Hillary are her lies.

Hey Hillary, why did you say this in SD:

".....and my father, he had a fulltime job since the age of 11.... and my mother had a fulltime job since the age of 13 so I stand on their shoulders and understand the meaning of hard work"

Another lie branded by Hillary Clinton. She can't be trusted to tell the truth about her father nevertheless run a state.

NY wants you OUT!

Susan MO   June 2nd, 2008 10:14 am ET

Good luck to both candidates

We are rooting for Hillary

Go Hillary

emmy   June 2nd, 2008 10:14 am ET

Hillary is the leader with morals and principles..she keeps on winning and he keeps on losing..she is the winner ..has won the most votes..

Priscilla   June 2nd, 2008 10:14 am ET

Hillary knows all too well that the popular vote doesn't count. And besides that, she doesn't have the popular vote. She needs to end this!

Chryssa   June 2nd, 2008 10:14 am ET

Count the caucus states, Hillary!

Marc in DeKalb, IL   June 2nd, 2008 10:14 am ET

Hillary Clinton: "Hey! No fair! I'm losing! Change the rules so I can win!"

... priveledge and expectation do not give you a seat in the Highest Office.

Goldie   June 2nd, 2008 10:14 am ET

Why would the popular vote in Puerto Rico be more important than the actual vote numbers in caucus states? Puerto Rico does not have any electoral votes in the general election. Puerto Rico can't help anyone win the general election. Caucus states can help a candidate win the general election, but Clinton repeatedly claims that caucus states are insignificant. She said that months ago... that only the big states counts, and now she leaves caucus states out of her popular vote totals. And when you consider the Michigan vote, which was not supposed to count, which she agreed ahead of time would not count, then you see how distorted her popular vote totals are. Why can't the media and her supporters see that? They both keep repeating her distortion.

neo   June 2nd, 2008 10:13 am ET

Every vote counts: except for the 13 caucuses that weren't in michigan. And the uncommitted votes in michigan don't count either appearently.

If she wants to be fair - then count my state in the popular vote.

lol. that means she loses by at least 500k - so I guess that will never happen.

CT voter   June 2nd, 2008 10:13 am ET

Yeah not counting the caucus state's AND not counting MICHIGAN! THAT'S BS! IT'S NO WONDER SHE LEFT HER NAME ON THE BALLET, SO SHE COULD CHEAT AT THE END!

Lynda   June 2nd, 2008 10:13 am ET

Can we say Hubris? Someone read her a greek tragedy! She thinks she is winning, IF you don't count these states and IF you do count these other states votes in this certain way and IF pigs fly. Obama wins without any hypotheticals or fuzzy math. Go home Clinton! All you are doing now is hurting yourself!

Tyshunn   June 2nd, 2008 10:13 am ET

the problem with this argument is she doesn't count caucuses... which she lost overwhelmingly.

LetsGetUnited   June 2nd, 2008 10:13 am ET

I really respect Mrs. Clintons tenacity and never say die attitude; but I really hope after Tuesday she will put her support behind Obama. That is unless something dramitically changes during those contests.

Former Hillary supporter   June 2nd, 2008 10:12 am ET

This laughable, more supers have gone to Obama since March, it shows that every time she pulls a new trick, it does not work.

Christopher, Louisville, KY   June 2nd, 2008 10:12 am ET

I can say that I was the winner of the popular vote too...it doesn't make it factual.

Linda from Florida   June 2nd, 2008 10:12 am ET

. I think we have to pray hard for Sen. Hilliary Clinton. She is a fighter but doesn't know when the fight is over, and when to quit. Her continuation of her campaign, the negative tone, the all out lying that she has the popular vote, and the old backroom type politics that she and Bill are exhibiting are the reasons the United States and the world does not need her as the nominee. After the decision on Florida and Michigan on Saturday, all of the Democrats were calling for party unity....except the Clintons.

ricky   June 2nd, 2008 10:12 am ET

Please, Hillary, for the sake of your party....bow out gracefully.

Ross   June 2nd, 2008 10:11 am ET

I think Clinton should be the nominee now that she has won the important swing state of Puerto Rico. Wait a minute... Puerto Rico is not a swing state. Doh!

Bye bye Hillary.

G. Tipton   June 2nd, 2008 10:11 am ET

Puerto Rican: Who cares they can not vote in the final election for President.

kristen in PA   June 2nd, 2008 10:11 am ET

is she secretly a republican? on the mccain payroll maybe?

maybe mccain is paying back her campaign debt in return for her staying in the race and dividing the party..

way to lose sight of the big picture hil

Gabriel   June 2nd, 2008 10:11 am ET

If you say something long enough and loud enough it becomes true. Right? RIGHT?

aaron   June 2nd, 2008 10:11 am ET

She also calimed she won popular vote two weeks ago when she insinuated that Caucus state votes don't matter.

Why are the media and other politicans letting her make these ridiculous claims???

Danielle   June 2nd, 2008 10:11 am ET

Hillary needs to give it up already and get over herself. Acknowledge that you have lost the fight and move on PLEASE!

erik   June 2nd, 2008 10:11 am ET

The most logical reason that Clinton is still in this is to try and prevent Obama from winning in November. When Obama becomes the nominee and if he was to lose she would be a shoe in in 2012. If Obama wins in November her White House dreams are over for good.

She is putting personal dreams above the party and the country. Selfish.

Jerome Milwaukee WI   June 2nd, 2008 10:11 am ET

I'm sick of Hillary trying to change the rules, skew the facts and bend the process to make it go in her favor. She truely think its should be handed over to her on a silver platter. Its a shame that she prefers to lose pathetically and claim she been done wrong rather bow out gracefully and help strengthen the Democratic Party

Dave G   June 2nd, 2008 10:11 am ET

I see Hillary Clinton as a fighter. She's tenacious. She will go the distance, and do what it takes to achieve her vision.

This is exactly the kind of person we don't need right now as a president. We don't need a fighter. With today's politics being so highly polarized, a fighter ends up being divisive, and nothing gets done.

What we need is someone who can compromise. Someone who doesn't dig in and fight, but rather reaches out to find common ground. Someone who tries to find a win-win scenario in the middle of a fight. Bill Clinton had some of this in the 90s, but he hasn't shown it recently. I'm supporting Obama.

Pat   June 2nd, 2008 10:11 am ET

wolfsbane,
you should check the background of quotes you refer to. Clinton did not decide that MI wouldn't count, she was talking about the rules committee not allowing MI to count. It was not her fault. No matter who you back, you should want fair rulings for everybody. If these rule makers are making their own rules as they go along to benefit Obama, I can't suport the party any longer. They want a unified party, but they don't really want MI or FLto be involved in a fair and eqitable way.

John   June 2nd, 2008 10:11 am ET

Throughout the campaign I've liked both candidates, but must say that Hillary's stretching of the truth and changing the truth for her own convenience is really starting to piss me off. If she wants the respect of people in the Democratic party in the future, she better find her 'honorable' way out of this pretty darn soon.

dduburon   June 2nd, 2008 10:10 am ET

If Clinton does indeed have, “more votes than anyone in the history of the Democratic primaries” who held the record previously? In other words, who did she beat to obtain this record?

MW   June 2nd, 2008 10:10 am ET

At this point.. if she were to somehow win the nomination, it would be very hard for me to vote for her. She has proven herself to be selfish, deceitful, greedy, a trader and a liar. I don't like McCain either.. but, I sure as heck do not want another liar as president.

MelissainMinneapolis   June 2nd, 2008 10:10 am ET

This makes me really angry. For her to claim that she wants every vote counted and then exclude all of us from caucus states in her tabulations smacks of hypocrisy.

LeftyLadig   June 2nd, 2008 10:10 am ET

She does not have the popular vote. Says "Every Vote Counts" but does not include the caucus states. She is delusional. Her time for getting out with a little grace is almost gone.

Molly   June 2nd, 2008 10:10 am ET

I voted in a caucus. She is saying I don't count? Thanks, Hill. You really represent the people.

AJ   June 2nd, 2008 10:10 am ET

Clinton will not win the nomination, but her supporters will not support Obama in November. Other than his fancy speeches, no one has ever really said why they support him. Most of his supporters don't really know much about him or what he stands for. It has just become popular to get behind him. I think the republicans are going to have a field day with him come November and I would be shocked if the race is even close (forget winning). On top of that, the people supporting Obama have done nothing but insult not just Hillary, but Bill Clinton as well. Never realizing how much that behavior upset us (Clinton supporters) and that ultimately they would need us to win in November. It would be surprising to see many of us siding with Obama after what went on during this race. In the end, Obama's supporters is the best thing that happened to McCain.

Stephen   June 2nd, 2008 10:09 am ET

Please don't ruin things for the Democrats and you political future. Hillary's supporters may not support Obama, but if Hillary will suffer for that in the future. Obama's supporter would return the favor if she decides to run again in the future.

oldoregon   June 2nd, 2008 10:09 am ET

STOP ALREADY!

There is a point at which perseverance and optimism become futility and delusion. You ran a fine campaign. You lost. Do the right thing for America and unify the party so that we can defeat John McCain.

Rob in ohio   June 2nd, 2008 10:09 am ET

Clinton's unfortunately lost it, but I and I know my 2 other room mates will be swithcing from Client to McCain to teach all the Obama losers a lesson. They got all swept up in stupid rhetoric and slogans, and followed like mindless sheep. We HATE them all because (especially on cnn talk-back here) have shown themselves to be the most rude, insulting, and mean-spirited people involved with this primary. Obama may not be a bad guy, heck I don't think he is, but his supporters are the ugliest human beings I've ever had the displeasure of coming across.

McCain 2008

Cats   June 2nd, 2008 10:09 am ET

What the Clinton campaign can't add the numbers for the popular vote she has won. She is lying – false advertising. She just dropped all the votes she did not want counted.

60 year old white female, Mo   June 2nd, 2008 10:09 am ET

Hillary you better keep the money ... don't spend it on any ad now to avoid deep debts... Do you care ...?

Bob   June 2nd, 2008 10:09 am ET

NEWS FLASH - Clinton declares she's delusional..! This would be a more appropriate headline... I was a devout republican up until this ridiculous bush league presidency, and switched over to Obama early on. Clinton somehow feels that because she was a "first lady," she is somehow entitled to the presidency. She is nothing but a washinton insider, and because of this, knows full well how to buy and sell the so called "super-delegates." Trust me, this evil woman will do and say anything to get back into "her" white house, and will try to strike deals with these delegates, promising them anything for their vote!!! It's all about insider trading and power, and the Clinton's are the best at it...

Maggie VT   June 2nd, 2008 10:08 am ET

There are alot of trust issues with her campaigning. It will be like Bill. it will be about Hillary, not Obama.

Chris   June 2nd, 2008 10:08 am ET

Oops - that should be "caucuses." Missed a couple letters in the middle.

RW in AL   June 2nd, 2008 10:08 am ET

This is a challenge to democrats who threaten to either vote for McCain or stay home and not vote in the general election if Hillary is not the nominee.

First, to be fair, a little about myself. Before Hillary even announced she was running for President, I was one of those who said, I’d vote ANYBODY but Hillary. I honestly dislike the woman that much. I still do, even more so. However, if she’s the nominee, she has my vote. Why you might ask.

We’ll it’s not because I’m a democrat. I vote for the issues, not the person. And this year, the issues that are important to me are ending ongoing conflict in Iraq (I just had a son graduate basic training in the Army and am a veteran myself), the economy, veterans issues (such as this GI bill, veterans healthcare), tax issues and National Security. As an adult, and I think a reasonable one, in spite of my complete dislike for Hillary, I researched the issues of all the candidates and came up with three who supported most of the issues that was important to me. Ron Paul, Barack Obama and lo and behold, Hillary Clinton. Also possessing of a little bit of common sense and as things have played out, I came realize that a vote for Ron Paul is essentially a non-vote and it would take away the opportunity for someone who could win the election to receive that vote and possibly turn the election to one who does not support the issues that are important to me.

So my challenge is to all democrats and others of other parties, please remember, we’re not just voting for a person we may like, we are voting on our ideals of what we want to see our government accomplish. So I challenge you to vote for the issues that are important to you and for the nominee who best represents these issues, whether or not it is the candidate you would have preferred.

And a reminder to those of you who support Hillary, and are threatening to vote McCain or stay home and not vote, if you do so, you are voting against the issues that are important to her. Do you really want to disrespect what she has fought for that much. Even I can see she’s put her heart and soul into the issues she’s campaigned for. You’ll be doing Hillary a disservice to do as many of you have threatened. That is not the way to honor her, nor her campaign.

Joe St Louis, MO   June 2nd, 2008 10:08 am ET

Another day another stretch....

Christopher Wiren   June 2nd, 2008 10:07 am ET

Angry Clinton supporters tell party leaders: 'Let's go McCain!'
Is this not a failure?!

Why would any person, in their right mind, suddenly be PRO WAR and ANTI HEALTHCARE?

4 years of more Bush is NOT the right thing for the Democratic Party.
Should we not stand for our believes, against the Republicans, regardless of the outcome in this nomination?

Maybe McCain’s supporters have infiltrated her campaign?

Chris in VA   June 2nd, 2008 10:07 am ET

The Hillary Majority.

Chris   June 2nd, 2008 10:07 am ET

Please. She's not counting the caucus states (because there is no tally of individual votes in causes), but she is counting her votes in Michigan, where Obama took his name off of the ballot but she did not. My parents in Detroit voted "undeclared" to support Obama, but does she think their votes should count for him? Clearly not.

Lorna, NY   June 2nd, 2008 10:07 am ET

What will it take for her to realize that this is over for her?

Mary   June 2nd, 2008 10:07 am ET

She just doesn't get it, does she? I'm sick of her negativity. When you listen to both of them talk, Barack is nothing but complimentary of her-and all she is is constant negativity.

Sharon   June 2nd, 2008 10:07 am ET

Hillary, you have fought a great fight, but you lost and it is time to go back to the Senate and work hard for us peons out here.

Dan Issano   June 2nd, 2008 10:06 am ET

it's about delegates not the popular vote! it's time for her to get OUT.

ECHEWEOZO   June 2nd, 2008 10:06 am ET

its too late for all that

Gosh   June 2nd, 2008 10:06 am ET

WOW! Now there is some very selective counting Hillary. Must be some form of new math? Oh, it's just your math.

Jeroen   June 2nd, 2008 10:06 am ET

Basicly she plays with numbers and math to prove that she doesn't has to pay respect to the current established system for choosing the democratic nominee.

Perhaps she can twist and change rules so that the presidential nominee for the democratic party needs to have won the state of New-York. Or that the next presidential nominee needs to we a women, and be part of the Clinton clan ?

More and more – I'm convinced she's campaigning for the Republicans.

s.b.   June 2nd, 2008 10:05 am ET

Why would Obama be given all the uncommitteds in MI??? 15% of those who voted, voted for John Edwards. That's like counting caucus second or third choice votes. She is still the poular vote winner if you give Obama 25% of the vote in MI which is more than he deserves. Besides you either respect certified election reults or you are Robert Mugabe. Hillary has wont he popular vote by over 300,000. Period.

Math   June 2nd, 2008 10:05 am ET

Obviously Billarie flunked math...ok lets give her the Florida and Michigan votes but lets not count California or New York for her...Obama wins the popular vote....

Hillary, please be a lady and acknowledge you have lost...

Xavier, St. Louis, MO   June 2nd, 2008 10:05 am ET

Spin spin spin! As we know, if she was so concerned about the people voter’s rights, she would count caucuses, and if she counted caucuses, then she would not have the popular vote lead. See, this is why people don't like, if not hate, Hillary. Because she would do anything and say anything to win, this speaks volumes about her moral values.

Also, we don't decide out presidential race by "popular vote", and she knows this; just another spin from the Clintons. We decide our presidential race by delegates and electoral votes.

This race is over!

Chicago Architect   June 2nd, 2008 10:05 am ET

A graceful exit, an honorable congratulatory address, and a solid effort to support Obama would be the only way to show that she is after the party and the country's welfare. Anything less than that will show that she's out to serve only herself and her deep selfish ambitions.

Jaybrown NY/NJ   June 2nd, 2008 10:05 am ET

That's Nice.

Obama 08

enoch needles   June 2nd, 2008 10:05 am ET

If only the popular vote and not delegates mattered. If only counting the states you like and excluding the ones you don't mattered. If that mattered, then I suppose Hillary would still matter.

S. Washington   June 2nd, 2008 10:04 am ET

Senator Clinton has stated “she would work her heart out for the nominee…”

It is time for her to show that these were not “just WORDS”!!!

BC   June 2nd, 2008 10:04 am ET

Um, no you don't! LOL I find it HILLarious you are wining the popular vote but losing the contest. Correct me if I'm wrong but if you were wininng the popular vote shouldn't you also be wining the race fo the Presidential nomintaion? Please Hillary go back to Arkansas or New York or Puerto Rico!!! GO AWAY!!!

Thompson   June 2nd, 2008 10:04 am ET

Al Gore won the popular vote in the 2000 election, but did not win the election. In that case, it was about electoral vote, in this case it's about delegates.

Yes, Senator Clinton is a strong candidate, but she is not strong enough to win the nomination. With that being said, if she's not strong enough to beat Senator Obama, how will she be strong enough to be McCain? Both candidates need each others supporters to win the general election. So, who ever comes out victorious needs the backing of all democrats.

~Independent Voter~

chris (hartford, ct)   June 2nd, 2008 10:04 am ET

So her campaign has come down to relying on votes from 2 states where she signed a written agreement saying that she would not campaign and 1 state that doesn't vote in the general election?

Tim for Democrats   June 2nd, 2008 10:04 am ET

This year's primaries are like a movie. I am sure, HRC not even in her dream thought of loosing. Even, sometimes last year, I could only think of HRC and voted for her for her senate races. So fortunately or unfortunately, Obama came up with his Charisma, Character and vision that supersede HRC’s. Obviously, I have switched. I thank Obama for running such a wonderful race. This opened up HRC's true character. I never thought of her could be so petty and dishonest. Obviously, Americans would be last one to see a dishonest politician moving in to white house. I lost all the respects for her because of her petty and nasty game playing.

robert ga   June 2nd, 2008 10:04 am ET

and finally I think she really has to meet her obligation to her donors, keep feeding them **** , If you show that you are trying had enough to get the normination then, may be they will forgive your debt.

Its ok, we will come together to kick out the repugnicans.

ta

Ben M   June 2nd, 2008 10:04 am ET

Thanks CNN for finally showing some of the illogical arguments and math the Clinton camp is using to make this statement.

Hillary just upset that her coronation didn't go as planned and the people had a say. Her popular vote claim doesn't mean much when the polls are showing Obama with a 10 point lead on her nationally.

Rick, Orlando Florida   June 2nd, 2008 10:04 am ET

Hillary, can't you get it through your head you are a looser? You stayed together with that piece of squat husband for nothing. You could not buy or muscle your way into this one.

Bye, Bye!!!!

Eleanor   June 2nd, 2008 10:03 am ET

Well if you consider all those people who voted in caucases NO she would not have the lead in the popular vote
They are practicaly tied even without the caucase votes and even CNN
laid out on their board last night with the caucases Obama is ahead
so this is a futile arguement at best.
Its not the popular vote that counts its the delegate count!!

For both candidates to get over 17 million votes each is nothing short of amazing!!!

Joel King   June 2nd, 2008 10:03 am ET

She needs to spend any money she may have left in packing up her campaign.

Jared Raleigh, NC   June 2nd, 2008 10:03 am ET

So what exactly is her point?

The superdelegates should brush off the political system and the way the democratic party runs its primaries and make her the nominee because she leads in popular vote and not delegates?

This would completely rip this party and its voters apart. Its evident that she is willing to do whatever it takes, even when she knows it is over.

As someone who has voted republican the last 2 elections, the longer this goes, and the more propaganda she is allowed to fill her "supporters" who I might add are just as divisive as she is, the stronger Senator McCains chances become in November.

This party really needs to figure this out, but that is nothing new to anyone reading this.

Paul   June 2nd, 2008 10:03 am ET

She is winning the popular vote in her mind only. I would like to see her on camera justify using Michigan's vote total with Obama getting 0 votes. She constantly bends the truth and hopes that people are dumb enough to believe it.

errrr   June 2nd, 2008 10:03 am ET

Hillary Democrats are angry now not because she is losing, but because how she and her supporters were treated during the primary by Obama's supporters, the party and the media.

I see no democracy in this primary of the Democratic Party. The media are far more biased then ever. The party leaders showed no respect on voters and tried every ways to put their will over the voters'.

It is the time to teach the Democratic Party a lesson and vote for McCain this year. We need to let the party leaders know that they are not going to get the presidency by manipulating and hijacking the will of peaple. If they want to win in a democratic election, please be democratic. We also need to let the media know that it is us, not them, to elect the president.

OregonVoter   June 2nd, 2008 10:03 am ET

"Diogenes" good point but she reminds me of Wimp Lo in a really funny but bad movie. Wimp Lo has been trained backwards by the other karate guys becasue they think it is funny. He shouts "I am more bloody. I am the victor" and "Yeah, how you like my nuts to your knee?"

Jo Ann   June 2nd, 2008 10:03 am ET

Just how for can you stretch the truth-this is just really unbeliveable Hilliary will say anything to try and get what she wants. Do we really want her as the president of USA? God help those that do.

Susie   June 2nd, 2008 10:03 am ET

Clinton's math is a little fuzzy. She needs a refresher course.

Matthew from Lincoln NE   June 2nd, 2008 10:02 am ET

I'm from Nebraska (a caucus state), and I find it deplorable that Hillary whined for months about "disenfranchising" voters in MI and FL by not counting their votes (for breaking the rules) and yet seems content to disregard the votes of thousands of caucus-goers in Nebraska and the other caucus states (who did not break the rules). If MI and FL count in the popular vote total, then by all means the caucus states should be counted as well.

Yes we can!   June 2nd, 2008 10:02 am ET

first it was if you win Iowa and New Hampshire.....it's over
second it was caucus doesn't count only primaries......
3rd it was.....it will be over by super tuesday anyway.....
then it was all about the delegates.....
then it was all about the superdelegates.....
then it went to swing states and hardworking white people...
then it went back to superdelegates....
then it went to florida and michigan when she said "they wont count anyway"
now it's the popular vote.......
****************************************
who wants a president that flip flops and go with the flow instead of standing their ground from the door.....

Sore loser   June 2nd, 2008 10:02 am ET

This is your typical sore loser, along with her buddy Terry Mccolif, what a pair of delusional people.

Just Bob   June 2nd, 2008 10:02 am ET

If the popular vote counted, Al Gore would have been president in 2000. She doesn't have the delegates, I'm tired of hearing this lame reasoning from Hillary.

Reggie   June 2nd, 2008 10:02 am ET

Clinton's compaign should scare Americans. This is very reminiscent of the Bush presidency. No matter what the reality is, she keeps coming up with facts that prove her point, even though in reality they are not 100% truthful or forthcoming. Haven't we seen this movie before? A leader who will stop at nothing to push their own agenda. I know she feels she should be the nomineed, but it is not going to happen. Even if it did, youngs college students and blacks will not vote for her, so she stil would not win.

Beth   June 2nd, 2008 10:02 am ET

Seems to me that Clinton has a brilliant future ahead of her as a spin doctor. This is the same candidate that back when Florida and Michigan willfully violated the rules and held their primaries early, said she was okay with not counting those votes. I guess back then she felt it was safe enough to take that stance, believing that she'd be the undisputed winner with or without them.

Quite simply, despite her claims to the contrary, Ms. Clinton is NOT leading in the popular vote. The same person who says "every vote counts" (referring to Michigan and Florida) is now deliberately overlooking the results of the caucuses? Hey, lady!! C'mon!

democrats   June 2nd, 2008 10:02 am ET

Obama supporters are convinced you are destroying the democratic party. This is just not true. They (obamabots) have attempted to reform the democratic party into a new party, a socialist party (for better reference see his first term in Illinois and how he was elected... straight out of a Stalin hand book). They scream dissent and that you REAL democrats aren't democrats at all. They tell you Hillary is divisive, but she is the only REAL democrat in the race. And to be honest, Hillary and the left winged John McCain aren't as different as the socialists would have you believe. Don't let them tell you you're racist or unpatriotic because you refuse to have Obama as your next president, THATS THE REAL FEAR TACTIC his camp uses. Hillary has been made to look like the bad guy for trying to keep the REAL democratic party together. Its even moreso apparent as he has all the support from socialist countries as it is. Canada, western block european nations who've benefited from the EU at the price of real democracy. I will not vote for Obama, never, JOIN ME

I doubt CNN will post this as this is not typical propaganda they are so accustomed to running.

BigAce   June 2nd, 2008 10:02 am ET

Ahh,

The goal post is moved once again!!!!! Next will be the number of delegates needed to actually secure the nomination.

Please all HRC supporters tell us why she is continuing to change the criteria upon which the nominee should be chosen?

Just like yesterday at the Rules committee, Ickes proclaims the great injustice of not counting all the votes of FL and MI. Didn't he and the HRC camp agree to disqulify ALL of the votes of MI and FL if the moved their primary dates up?? Come on, you can't have it both ways.

I'm sure she thought she was the best candidate going into the primaries, but the people have spoken and they have chosen OBAMA.

It looks like the HRC camp along with the supporters are sore losers and demand that HRC be declared the winner because its her turn.

The primaries are a contest, not a coronation ceremony.

Larry   June 2nd, 2008 10:02 am ET

I'm a long-time Republican who is sick of the status quo. I'm much sicker of Billary, and if the Democrats insist on running her as President or VP, John McCain's got my vote.

I'm not alone.

Terry from VA   June 2nd, 2008 10:01 am ET

Here is the problem with the argument. Making that debatable argument will not change the results of the nomination process. Making the argument is divisive and will not help with party unity. Making the argument attempts to put an asterisk on the nomination. This is a party not a campaign. What is most important is that we back the nominee with words and deeds.

Our patience has run out with the Clinton Campaign. She should focus her energy on retiring the campaign debt. She should have focused her energy on getting people to donate to her campaign. All those votes did not equal real support for her campaign when she needed them. I am sorry; I forgot she did not count any of the States that held caucuses, not important. As I write this response, I come to realize this is like trying to rationalize the irrational. It can not be done.

Come on Tueday and the Supers. Lets put this one to bed.

Mary Sarnia Canada   June 2nd, 2008 10:01 am ET

desperate times calls for desperate measures, twisting the words,rules and policies to suit her.

Michigan and Florida broke the law but in typical govenment style they change the rules due to the whining of a loser.

Must say your politics are better than any TV soap

Patty   June 2nd, 2008 10:01 am ET

Her math is as flawed as her campaign. For someone who wants all votes to count, it appears that those who voted in caucus states don't count at all. I don't want her as my president, vice president or part of a cabinet. Her words and actions speak for themselves. ..lies and distortions.

Mat   June 2nd, 2008 10:01 am ET

I hope see drags this on until the convention, just to pissed off these Obama mouth pieces

DeniseGA   June 2nd, 2008 10:01 am ET

Why is the media falling for this??
They are allowing her to repeat a lie, she only has the popular vote if, you give Obama NO votes in MI, and you don't count the caucus states!

Someone needs to call her on this, on camera!

caribbean for obama   June 2nd, 2008 10:00 am ET

Go president obama.

Mike   June 2nd, 2008 10:00 am ET

This is so PAINFUL to watch and listen to.....I really would like her to accept defeat and move on. This is just pathetic.

robert ga   June 2nd, 2008 10:00 am ET

Clinton has had 10 contest of , virtually uncontested , primaries. Obama has not attacked her at all in these latter contest. She actually thinks that if it was open season on her ,that she would be working these primaries the way she has. May be that is the way she likes to win(ala Floriday and Michigan) . HRC we are not stupid. especially when you come up with your popular vote theory, so everyone but you thought this contest was over 8 contest ago, let things ease to unite the party. But you still continue and want to claim a moral victory with popular vote. lets face ,if you continue this suicide mission for the democratic party past this week , then I will officially give up on the democratic party period.

tom   June 2nd, 2008 10:00 am ET

Obamaites chill out and have another cup of kool-aid. Yes, Clinton will beat Obama in votes, but Obama will still get the nomination. That's the new way democracy works in America...

JohnT   June 2nd, 2008 10:00 am ET

Let's see, in the waning days of the primary, Sen. Clinton is beating Sen Obama like a drum in every demographic group and state important to the Dems if they are to win in November. So, of course, the Democrat big weasels will hand the nomination to Sen. Obama, with his firm grasp on a McGovern-like coalition. Have any of you noticed that the more the press scrutinizes the senator from Illinois, the less wonderful he appears to be? Can any of you say President McCain?

Gregory H. Brooklyn New York   June 2nd, 2008 10:00 am ET

We have been lulled to sleep by divisive politics for far too long, America. We are a wonderfully unique nation with incredibly awesome people who stand up when called upon. Lets give UNITY a try. God Bless America.....

Kansas   June 2nd, 2008 10:00 am ET

Kansas would have went for Clinton if they had a primary instead
of a caucus. Caucus is not a fair vote of the people, because
all the people do not have a change to vote and you do not even
vote in you regular voting place. In my area we only had three
places to vote and you had to call to find where you needed to go
to vote.

MediaJunkie, Arlington, VA   June 2nd, 2008 9:59 am ET

I am tired of this argument from HRC. There are a ton of holes in it that have been pointed out time and time again. This ad only serves to feed the anger of rabid Clinton supporters in Michigan (where Obama and Edwards weren't even on the ballot) and Florida (where nobody campaigned) who feel they have been disenfranchised. And they have a right to feel that way, but stop conveniently forgetting that Clinton signed off on those states being stripped of their delegates until she realized she needed them. She's not fighting for Florida and Michigan, she's fighting for herself.

Janie, Raleigh, N.C.   June 2nd, 2008 9:59 am ET

I just wrote to the DNC and let them know they can never expect another donation from me. The anti Chritian Christianity that has come out of Barack Obama's church and those who support it, will not play well here in the bible belt. He will not carry a single southern state. He can't carry WVA or KY. He will not carry Ohio. He may win the nomination, but the way that rules committee denied the reality of the votes in both Mi and Florida is the most undemocratic thing I have seen from my party. Obama has been shoved down our throats by the media and now the rules committe. No longer proud to be a Democrat.

Mary   June 2nd, 2008 9:59 am ET

The media needs to report more about not giving any votes to Obama. Obama would have done well in Michigan – it would have been much closer than what it was. To give him no votes and then count her votes and then repeat the lie that she leads in the popular vote is ridiculous. There are a lot of Americans that don't work in offices and don't have internet access readily available. To those people Clinton's claim will seem like the truth. After all, would a person running for president lie to the American people? Its sad. CNN you need to do a better job. News isn't just saying what each side wants you to say. Its about reporting the truth.

Also, why not count the caucuses... because Hillary has decided that it is only for activists and doesn't represent her biggest strength?

joe   June 2nd, 2008 9:59 am ET

Wow...I don't see any of the cool-aid drinkers arguing the math...they all just attack the person instead of the facts.

AM   June 2nd, 2008 9:59 am ET

Twisting numbers and trying to manipulate the public with false statements is old politics and something America cannot stand for another 4 years. Please Obama call her on this! As the next president it is vital that we have the truth.

Miles   June 2nd, 2008 9:59 am ET

If we count two illegal elections in states where we didn't campaign, ignore the fact that thousands upon thousands of people didn't vote who would have, and exclude caucuses because I can't win them, I have the lead.

Too many asterisks, Hillary. Too much reality to suspend. You do not have the lead in the popular vote.

Deb   June 2nd, 2008 9:59 am ET

I can not believe she is claiming all of the popular votes when she knew Florida and Michigan should not have counted. She needs to get out now and take Geraldine Ferraro with her. I saw and heard her spewing crap on Hannity's America and of course he was eating it up. He should thank Senator Obama since his entire show is dedicated to Obama. Is that a healthy obsession?

Obama '08

Jake145   June 2nd, 2008 9:59 am ET

I'm sick and tired of this whole thing.
Clinton needs to think about of the party as a whole instead of herself.
I know for sure now that would never vote for her.
Not now, not in 2012, not in 2016, etc..
She has really disappointed me.
I hope this will be over for good on Tuesday 6/3/08.

NJ Voter   June 2nd, 2008 9:59 am ET

"Clinton can also be considered the popular vote leader IF ONLY the primary contests are included, and ALL CACUS RESULTS ARE EXCLUDED."

That quote is truly laughable... she's changing the rules so she can win.

I can't believe people trust this woman.

Ben   June 2nd, 2008 9:59 am ET

Hillary's behavior can be compared to an NFL team losing the Championship Playoff game and saying, I know we lost be we are still the best team to play in the Super Bowl and win.

Carieann   June 2nd, 2008 9:58 am ET

This proves her desperation knows absolutely no limits. If the tables were turned, she'd have been calling for Obama to bow out long, long before this point. Shame on you Hillary! Your campaign gives women a bad name by prominently displaying "the woman candidate" as desperate and stubbornly delsuional.

Fitz   June 2nd, 2008 9:58 am ET

So Florida and Michigan count, but Idaho and Nebraska dont(for the popular vote)? It is sad to see Clinton literally do anything possible to win, even if we all lose to McCain due to it.

C.W. in Texas   June 2nd, 2008 9:58 am ET

What is the hurry? This is a horserace and a good one at that. Nothing gets people pumped like a good horse race, and the finish line always defines the outcome, not the press, not the DNC and Howard Dean, not the Republicans and not the talkshow hosts. The popular vote and the delagate votes are so close that this thing in going to the convention as it should. Let the peoples delegates choose their cantidates at the convention. We Democrats have done this ever since I can remember, and there is nothing wrong with that. The convention is the finish line, not the halfway mark or the final turn, so we all should have a little patience, see who crosses the finish line in August and vote for the winner in November.

Vi   June 2nd, 2008 9:57 am ET

Hillary, the race is over. The fat lady sung your song 2 months ago.

Jessica, MI   June 2nd, 2008 9:57 am ET

"she can only be considered the popular vote winner if the results from Michigan (where Obama was not on the ballot) are counted for her and Obama is awarded no votes from that state"

She is a revolting liar. The people have spoken, Hillary, and by any REAL measure, they have voiced their preference for Obama. Go away.

ShawnA   June 2nd, 2008 9:57 am ET

I voted in the Democratic primary in Florida with the full knowledge that my vote didn't count towards the nomination of my preferred candidate. Every Florida voter knew our delegates may or may not be seated given that our primary was early and therefore conducted illegally in accordance with the parties bylaws. This is why no democratic candidate campaigned here before the primary. Because they were all playing by the rules. I don't understand why the rules applied then and all candidates accepted them, but they don't apply now.

Sean   June 2nd, 2008 9:57 am ET

Obama or Hillary it doesn't matter they both can knock out McSame with his flimsy policies for veterans running on a republican agenda. Hillary and Obama both have better policies for vets

Kenneth of Minneapolis (KW)   June 2nd, 2008 9:56 am ET

If it is said enough, some people may believe that it's true.

It is time to face reality.

Let all of us democrats get on the same sheet of music because if we don't a republican or independent or some other party will have a seat in the white house.

Hillary, do the right thing for the good of the party.

JIM   June 2nd, 2008 9:56 am ET

Hillary's in this mess due solely to her own ARROGANCE and stupidity! In her mind and many of her followers she was the "annoited" one due in part to just being a Clinton. Now it's hard for them to come to the realization that everyone is not buying into that and living in the past. She alone has done more to get McSame elected in November than he himself. It's a sad state of affairs to be so self absorbed.....

Colie Brice   June 2nd, 2008 9:56 am ET

LIAR LIAR, PANT SUIT ON FIRE!

jake   June 2nd, 2008 9:56 am ET

How did she add-up the votes cast in caucuses?

reginald kirkpatrick   June 2nd, 2008 9:56 am ET

Hillary,what is the matter with you?I thought you were only smoking weed now i know you have some other mixed included.where is your senses gone?

peakarach,des moines   June 2nd, 2008 9:55 am ET

Hillary all the way. No Hussein Obama period.

Vote Hillary or McCain only folk!

Rich   June 2nd, 2008 9:55 am ET

And by adding Puerto Rico, but not Guam and the Virgin Islands.

I can produce math showing me to be the king of Bermuda. All hail Rich!

Ryan   June 2nd, 2008 9:55 am ET

SHE LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW..........I don't like her at all anymore. the votes were counted in Mich. and Florida and she is still acting this way! I really did support her efforts but want to let Florida and Michigan seat then expect her to resign. Now, I've lost all respect for this woman and needs to learn how to be graceful and step down.

Thad   June 2nd, 2008 9:55 am ET

Please dont pick Billary for your VP Obama. She is bad news.

CL OT   June 2nd, 2008 9:55 am ET

All there is to do is sit back and watch the democrat debacle. Are we supposed to believe that they can run our government when they can’t even run a primary? And how are we suppose to believe that hillbilly will get us out of Iraq when they can’t even get out of a primary that has been over for a month?

Marilyn   June 2nd, 2008 9:55 am ET

The popular vote expresses the will of the people. Whoever has the most popular votes should be the nominee. Period.

Scott   June 2nd, 2008 9:55 am ET

Popular vote is extremely close.....

But I have Clinton ahead by a tiny margain-

Popular Vote (with MI/FL now included
Uncommitted to Obama)** 17,627,284 48.7% 17,692,901 48.9%

Clinton +65,617 +0.2%

35 million votes cast ..clinton is ahead by about 65,000. giving Obama 100% of the uncommited in MI,I am not sure is fair,you can.t tell me 100% of uncommited went for Obama in MI,Edwards was still on ballet.

so I would maybe add another 25K to 50K to clinton lead for that reason.so I have clinton up by about 100K in popular vote with 35 million votes cast,that is unbeliavably close.

Bryan   June 2nd, 2008 9:54 am ET

WOW....I just read a story on three credible web sites that says the RNC has a tape of Michelle Obama ranting about whites at Trinity Church. They have scoured hours and hours of tape and are going to hold onto it until September. If Hillary can get this now, she will have to be the nominee....come on CNN research!!! Find out at least let us find out, lord knows you will report the Clinton women issue in vanity fair which is all hearsay too.

Erika, Kansas   June 2nd, 2008 9:54 am ET

Hang in there Hillary! You're in a catch-22 situation. If you quit, everyone would come out of the woodwork and call you a weak, sissy.
You are doing the right thing! Not everyone is on board with the Obama love-fest. You are the best candidate out there.

John   June 2nd, 2008 9:54 am ET

Instead of Don Quixote, she reminds me of Captain Ahab from Moby Dick. Obama is her white whale and she is willing to sacrifice everything, even her party, to seek revenge.

Independent for Obama, then McCain, never McCain   June 2nd, 2008 9:54 am ET

This lady is an ego craving maniac. Every vote counts unless it is for Obama in Michigan. Liar.... How can anyone fall for her.

Anyway you look at McCain will win because the Democrats are split and will fight to the end. Leave it to them to destroy a gimme election.

We will be talking the exact same points in 4 years, that Obama could get to work on, on Jan. 21.

Oh well, the world will still turn.

virginia nielsen   June 2nd, 2008 9:54 am ET

Is she still running ? What a joke !!! Somebody must stop this delusional
woman !!! OBAMA 2008-2016 !!!

Lillie   June 2nd, 2008 9:53 am ET

Billary, please go AWAY!!!!!!!!!!

Derek   June 2nd, 2008 9:53 am ET

No self-respecting super delegate should be swayed by this false argument. She fails to include any votes in Michigan for Obama and does not include Nebraska or Idaho in her totals. It's difficult to believe she cares about the Democratic party. It is clear that it's all about Hillary.

Allan   June 2nd, 2008 9:53 am ET

How are you paying the media for the airtime to run these ads?

Have you loaned your campaign even more of your husband's ill-gotten lucre?

Will the vendors who did business with you ever get paid?

If you're so "popular," why won't anyone give you money?

It's the delegates, stupid.

JKM   June 2nd, 2008 9:53 am ET

Hillary is about as crazy as a person can get. If she were your next door neighbor, you'd warn your children to stay away.

Gijs   June 2nd, 2008 9:53 am ET

How we see it in Europe:
Monthy Python and the quest for the High Office:
In this farce Clinton is the Black Knight. Although supremely skilled in swordplay, she suffers from unchecked overconfidence and a staunch refusal to ever give up.

DaveMo   June 2nd, 2008 9:53 am ET

Wow, it is actually rather sad, but then again this is the same person who told a falsehood about coming under fire in a trip to Europe. Hmmm, yes, I want someone who remembers false things running the government, why, I would really want them to answer the phone at 3 a.m. who knows, they may remember falsely that the big red button is for room service and blow up half the free world. I just have to wonder, how do the Clinton’s sleep at night? Is it in their safe little minds that what they told today is their version of the truth? Remember, once you tell a falsehood it is harder to remember how to keep that falsehood straight than to remember the truth. You know, I may be hard on her; it is hard to remember that the Michigan votes did not count. It is also hard to remember that her rival chose not put his name on the ballot since it would not count. Who could have seen that a weak willed bleeding heart Democratic Party would slap the hand of a misbehaving child and then give them a cookie and ice cream after punishing them for doing wrong? Since her political party is doing that can we really fault Hillary for thinking the Michigan votes really counted?

Turquoise   June 2nd, 2008 9:53 am ET

Why does Puerto Rico have a Primary to vote for "our" President when they can't vote in "our" general election ?? I always vote but this election has shown me "things" that I do not understand !!!!!!
Clinton has LIED a lot and tried to beat Obama down, she doesn't seem so great to me !!!!!!!!!!!!!! at the last minute she wants to eliminate Obama like Bush did Al Gore GOOOOD GRIEF !!

Bobby   June 2nd, 2008 9:53 am ET

When will this Woman "Give UP"! I watched the DNC hearings and was pleased and witness how fairness and justice still exist! HRC needs to bow out gracefully and work with the OBAMA team to take back the WHITE HOUSE for us DEMS.

OBAMA 08

SHIRLEY-OHIO   June 2nd, 2008 9:52 am ET

This is so sad that the Democratic Party has allowed something like this to have happened and allowing this nonsense to go on for so long. Everybody knows that the only thing that counts is the delegates and for the Democratic Party to sit here and allow Hillary try to spin and spin and spin this primary to try to take it away from Obama. He has won and there is nothing anybody can do about it. Hillary and her campagine knew what was going on with Florida and they knew that only the delegates count yet they rules are all beginning change to allow her to try to think she is going to win the primary election. She is toast, she is done and for her or anybody else for this matter thinks that she will be awarded the nomination from Obama is just completely sick (mentally).

Kelby   June 2nd, 2008 9:52 am ET

"When the voting concludes on Tuesday…I will lead the popular vote."
I am pretty certain that this is not a true statement. Hillary has proven to me that mathematics and common sense do not go hand in hand. And the nomination, like the presidency, is not decided on the popular vote. I believe that Obama will gett the needed delegates and this race should be over tomorrow.

DEMOCRATS '08. BELIEVE IT!

RufusVonDufus   June 2nd, 2008 9:52 am ET

This will all end sometime in August in Denver. How it will end is still the $64m question. I am guessing that it will end ugly, indicative of the way the Clintons ended up running their (THEIR) campaign. The Dems are in for a summer filled with fun and excitement brought to you by the Clintons, Pelosi, Reid, and company.

Kotei08   June 2nd, 2008 9:52 am ET

I do feel for her. She was hoping for a landslide victory due to the Clinton machine but it turned out that most of the electorate were looking for a change. I believe she had been hatched the dream of being the first female president a long time ago. All I can say to her is that when the moment is right, nobody can take it away from her. She should let it go now and try again later. Hopefully, she will be the first female president someday.

Toronto

Maisey   June 2nd, 2008 9:52 am ET

Be serious!

Hillbilly would have to take 97% of the remaining superdelegates to get the nomination.

Get real, it's over!

Yankee Dog   June 2nd, 2008 9:51 am ET

Yet again we see why HRC is not fit to be President. After 8 years of lies and confusion of W, preceeded by 8 years of lies and bad boy behavior of BC, we need honesty, truth, and a POTUS that we can trust. HRC can't be trusted with the truth, and has shown a lack of honesty. Dissembling at her best as usual. Lets please move on....

j larry   June 2nd, 2008 9:51 am ET

changing the rules and goal line again. it's tired Billary. Really tired. you supported stripping MI and FL of their delegates. Your campaign manager said "this is a contest about delegates", and you muddy the waters by not giving Obama a single vote for Michigan, and no votes for the caucus states.

As Donna Brazile said – "it's cheating"

go away... let us change the direction of the nation

howinfla   June 2nd, 2008 9:51 am ET

I'll tell you something right now... I'm a dem at heart, but for all those dems that say my Florida vote did not count... You can kiss my gritts...

I'll cast my vote for McCain...

The fact is she is telling the truth...

Regards, Howinfla

Madison, WI   June 2nd, 2008 9:51 am ET

This is not the general election ........ the popular vote is not how a delegate gets nominated. Why would anyone be covering and promoting this desperate plea???

RevOa   June 2nd, 2008 9:51 am ET

What saddens me is how she continues to claim that every vote counts. But she continually fails to include the caucus votes and never explains to people why. Then with Michigan and Florida she only claimed they were unfair penalties after she knew that she wouldn't have good chance to win without those votes. What makes me frustrated with her, is that she has yet to explain her reasoning on this in any detail. So basically what she is saying is that "every vote counts....as long it is a vote for her".

Willis, Texas   June 2nd, 2008 9:51 am ET

It is a shame how this "nomad" had distorted the facts. She does not have the most popular vote of any candidate in history - Obama holds that honor!!

She is not going to retire from the spotlight because she likes the attention - she is feeling like a movie star!

Things are going to blow up over Bill's investments with criminals and other disgusting individuals - pick up copy of Vanity Fair next week!

Lynda West Chester, PA   June 2nd, 2008 9:51 am ET

Is she 60 years old or 6 years old? Come on... you can't change the rules at the end of the game just because you lost. My seven year old seems to understand this better than the Clinton machine.

Game over.....

Obama 08'

Joyce in Florida   June 2nd, 2008 9:50 am ET

Hillary Clinton has every right to pursue being the next nominee and eventually our President. She is a fighter and will not give up. Senator Clinton is fighting for all of us. The pundits and others who have wanted her to quit are really foolish to even suggest such a thing; besides giving up is NOT her style. She is a fighter all the way to the convention if she has to do that. This race is not over yet by any means. Come on Montana and South Dakota, let's show the country that Hillary Clinton is the stronger candidate to fight John McCain. GO HILLARY 08!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tee   June 2nd, 2008 9:50 am ET

LOW DOWN DIRTY SHAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Juanita   June 2nd, 2008 9:50 am ET

I think we are watching an emotional breakdown.

Hay   June 2nd, 2008 9:50 am ET

HRC is hellbent on getting this nomanation regardless of how dishonest, shady it might be. and I am convinced she will go so far as to destroy the party if that's what it takes!!! she is nothing but a weasel!! I for one would be ashamed to call her president. She does not deserve it!! Go back to New York and stay there with your loving, caring, suportive, and cheating husband!!!!

Ian Ameline   June 2nd, 2008 9:50 am ET

You also forgot that Clinton fails to account for Maine, Iowa, Nevada, and Washington in the calculation of "popular vote". After all, "Every vote counts", right? Right?

Phishmelt   June 2nd, 2008 9:49 am ET

obama is really stretching it this time. he won chicago by disqualify votes and he is doing it again. he can't win by getting more votes, just by disqualifying others. if he didn't have a history of doing this, i would think differently. but you can't keep disqualifying voters and then think you had nothing to do with it. he is now the loop-hole candidate.

Justice 4 All   June 2nd, 2008 9:49 am ET

Sad to see someone of Hillary's standing behave this way. I want to feel bad for her, but I don't. Instead of looking like a "fighter", she looks more and more like a sore loser.
She herself realized that, It takes a village, well obviously the villagers have spoken.
Let us now focus on the primary goal of getting a democrat in office.

julian earl mcclain   June 2nd, 2008 9:49 am ET

i see that hillary still have hater, let see how they feel when she gets the naminee and obama does n't see if they campanaign with obama for her as hard as he did, they keep not seeing that when it looks like he has it she comes back better and nor he is makeing big misteak thinks he got it. when he don't too bad so sad obama. next time maybe

Ed   June 2nd, 2008 9:49 am ET

As of today June 2, 2008 nobody has the numbers to be the nominee so she have every right to keep fighting. I like both of them but Obama is and will have problems getting the white women and Latino votes and that could be a big problem if the Democrats want to win the White House. I have always supported a Clinton / Obama ticket or at least a Obama / Clinton ticket to bring everyone together and beat the Republican in November. The Democrats need to think what is the best way to beat McCain in November.

Steve, Seattl   June 2nd, 2008 9:49 am ET

This woman is out of control.....who the hell does she think she is? We think we have problems with Bush.....I think she could give even him a run for dictatoring money.

Anthony - Morgantown   June 2nd, 2008 9:49 am ET

I am so sick of hearing about Hillary Clinton and if she by some measure robs Obama of the nomination...this guy's voting for McCain for sure in November.

Shawna   June 2nd, 2008 9:49 am ET

How can you say every vote counts but say you lead in popular vote totals discounting caucus states. How is this a sound argument.

Sally Mae: Ex-Hillary Supporter   June 2nd, 2008 9:49 am ET

CHILD PLEASE!!!

OBAMA '08 & '12

arthur -Boston   June 2nd, 2008 9:49 am ET

It doesnot matter if Obama has a slight lead in the popular votes. When the Republican machine gets to roll on him and brings out all the negatives the press gave him a free ride on, he will be lucky to be able to win a ticket to the Chicago Zoo. Too bad for Hillary, she is a far more electable figure despite the jerks who won't vote for a female. When Obama loses these same people will be the first to blame clinton instead of blaming themselves for voting with the rear ends instead of their brains

Mike   June 2nd, 2008 9:48 am ET

If that were true. It still would not change the fact that Obama has won the nomination fair and square with the clear majorty of delagates which is how the system has always ( until Hillary ) worked. BUT, even the claim by Hillary to have the popular vote is a bald faced (typical Hillary ) Lie. The only way Hillary has the popular vote is...1. You pretend that Nobody in Michigan would have voted for Obama. 2. You throw out the voters of Iowa and seven other States ( what happened to every vote counts ) and you count the voters of Puerto Rico who cannot vote in the General Election. Only in the twisted logic of Hillary and in the ignorance of her supporters, does this make sense. In truth, Obama has a clear lead in the popular vote as well as the delagates, the Super delagates and most polls. Hillary, snap out of it. It is over.

Kevin   June 2nd, 2008 9:48 am ET

Is it just me or is Terry McAuliffe the biggest spin goof doctor in political history! This guy's inability to face reality makes me cringe and MSNBC and CNN lets him bury the Clinton campaign alive with every interview. I admit he's got the toughest job in America right now. He's trying to force feed a pipe dream down the throats of the American public. He should be commended for his efforts, but hated just the same for what he and the HRC are trying to do to this election. By the way, where's Bill?

JB   June 2nd, 2008 9:48 am ET

Superdelegates, where are you???

Please end this woman's misery!

Dave   June 2nd, 2008 9:48 am ET

As a Canadian who winters in Florida, I have taken great interest in the Democratic primary campaign. I do not like the delegate system, but it is the system in use. Go by the rules. I sincerly hope that the campaign does not come down to backroom politics. I have the fealing that Mrs. Clinton is now going to play this game. Her new add confirms that she intends to hang around hoping Mr. Obama makes a majour mistake prior to the convention.

Kris   June 2nd, 2008 9:48 am ET

What about the popular vote in the state that have cacuses. Shouldn't HRC consider teir votes in the total count. Every vote counts – right?

Karen from Charlottesville   June 2nd, 2008 9:48 am ET

Brought to you by the same campaign that claimed to get $10,000,000 in donations the day after PA. I think she overstated that number by about five times. The constant "twisted logic" of her campaign looks very bad for us women who have worked hard to be taken seriously in business.

I am really angry that Hillary Clinton is trying to make herself out to be some great feminist because she has misused her intelligence, relied on a dated argument of sexism, neglected to take responsbility for her failed campaign strategy, and allowed her husband to make a mockery of her arguments by calling her a girl.

I am a strong, self-actualized, respected business woman, and Hillary Clinton does NOT represent women like me. She's has discredited herself. I, for one, wish she would just shut the hell up.

Robert   June 2nd, 2008 9:48 am ET

It gives one pause to wonder if she's delusional at this point–making up numbers out of thin air and wishful thinking.

According to analysis that several media sources are reporting, Obama still leads in every count: popular vote, Super delegates, and majority of pledged delegates.

So if that's the case, where is she coming up with her numbers..?

Craig in Atlanta   June 2nd, 2008 9:48 am ET

Hilldawg you are a loser...The only thing this extended campaign is good for is allowing you to lose some weight so that your "behind" isn't a the monolithic mound of fat that is currently is....

coco   June 2nd, 2008 9:47 am ET

This is good because now hopefully she will not be on the Obama ticket and real change can happen. Most people do not remember she was a carpetbagger to begin with in New York State. Or that she had some problems with money during her 2000 senate run. Obama does not need her baggage, and frankly it is insane and insulting to think that he should help her with the mounting debt for staying in the race. The one consistent fact is: Grace and the Clinton's resembles bleach and Ammonia.

bill for barack   June 2nd, 2008 9:47 am ET

If she can only bring all her votes over to Obama in November he should win with something like 110 % of the popular vote .....

lovebug   June 2nd, 2008 9:47 am ET

Tim: It’s not pathetic at all. What’s is pathetic : everybody including the media is trying to squeeze her out, even thought they know fully well she is the stronger candidate for the Democratic Party.

She is fighting for her voters, like me, who does not have any confidence in Obama whatsoever.
Hillary is a fighter, and that exactly what we need for a President.

You go Hillary!

Dave in VA   June 2nd, 2008 9:47 am ET

Hillary, nobody's buying it. For the good of the party, for the good of the country, and (most importantly to you) for the good of your legacy, bow out gracefully now, campaign for Obama, and try again in 8 years.

RB from Nh   June 2nd, 2008 9:47 am ET

EVERY VOTE COUNTS!!!

Except in the causcuses...pathetic.

Independent white woman for Obama   June 2nd, 2008 9:47 am ET

Twist the truth, wheel and deal...standard operating procedure for the Clintons. They play dirty.
The Clintons are so corrupt and will say and do anything for power.
Just like McCain and the GOP!
Obama took the high road with them or she'd have lost long ago!

NormK   June 2nd, 2008 9:47 am ET

In football you win by the total points and not yards gained. Baseball by the runs and not the hits. In politics you win by the total delegates not by popular vote. If you want different rules you change them before the football or baseball season, or before the start of the primaries. Apparently rules apply to everyone else and not Hillary.

Dalmo   June 2nd, 2008 9:47 am ET

Congratulations Hillary was a nice and honored exit strategy of this race. You are a big and talented artist. Hollywood wait for you! Go girl!!!

Hugs from Brazil
Dalmo

Rob   June 2nd, 2008 9:47 am ET

So Clinton is saying that Obama didn't get a single vote in MI? That's real nice. Sure Mrs. Clinton, no one in the whole state voted for Obama. Do you ever play fair?

Matt--Nebraska   June 2nd, 2008 9:47 am ET

It was obvious early on that the leading democrats would not allow all delegates to be seated from Michigan and Florida.

If they had, the race would be a lot closer than it is, and Hillary may be in the lead.

Hillary is getting the nomination stolen from her.

The democrats are shameful.

tidho   June 2nd, 2008 9:47 am ET

Popular vote argument is valid (if you pretend that her Math makes sense) but that entire argument should have been made privately to the superdelegates.

Clinton supports, this is why others call her divisive. Rather than campaigning for those super votes respectfully she's undermining the delegate system in place by the party.

Obama will get the nomination because he's won this race. All Clinton is doing by trumpeting the popular vote concept is undermining the process.

It will be great for her in 2012 to (falsely) be able to claim it should have been her in 2008 and it was taken away because she's a woman, but in 2008 its going to kill Obama. I mean people are actually considering writing her in – Democrats can't win if they split their vote.

Abena   June 2nd, 2008 9:46 am ET

So, she has resorted to down-right in-your-face lying!

And I ask? Would this be the first time?

I shudder to think she was almost the nominee. Thank God it will be over soon!

Rena   June 2nd, 2008 9:46 am ET

Well this just show us that though Hillary claim she is so experienced; it is obvious she is not familiar with the term conceding to the winning candidate. This shows that even the best of us lack in certain areas.

A true experienced person who really cares about their party as a whole wouldn't still be competing in race when the rest of her party has decided to endorse the front runner and preparing to now to when the Presidential seat. Yet, she is trying her very best to destroy not only the winning candidate but her hold house. How can Hillary truly support Obama after such a disasterous display of attitude she has shown in this campaign towards him? My opinion I would not trust her nor Bill. They have sown so such much discard in this process.

It is very obvious that God still has a lot of work to do in Hillary and Bill.

PJ Independent, New York   June 2nd, 2008 9:46 am ET

Obama will NEVER win in November. Once again, the Democrats (liberal Democrats) are shooting themselves in the foot.

The Democrats had the opportunity to win the White House back but they decided to once again,push their most liberal candidate down everyone's throats. History has showed us that it doesn't work... Ted Kennedy, Walter Mondale, Michael Dukakis, Al Gore, John Kerry, etc. All were BIG liberals that ran for president, it didn't work for them and it's NOT going to work with Obama either. Obama was named the MOST LIBERAL in Washington in 2007. So not only does he have the liberal factor to deal with in the general election but he also has to deal with the fact that possibly 20-30% or more of Hillary Clinton's supporter's will not support him in November. He's also got his MANY scandals (that conveniently didn't come out till after Super Tuesday, thanks to the liberal news media) to deal with too. People will not forget about these either... Rev. Wright, Rezko, the 'bitter' comments, his wife being proud for the first time in her life of the US comment, etc. etc. Also add the fact that he's totally lacking substance/experience and it only makes his chances that much worse. He reads a good pre-written speech, that's it. It's just amazing how many are hypnotized by this guy.

I find it so amusing how most Obama supporter's will still say he's going to win and will go one step further and say that he doesn't need Hillary Clinton's supporter's. LOL What a joke!

John McCain will win by one of the biggest landslides in history. For everyone who believes Obama will win, they are delusional.

sdn   June 2nd, 2008 9:46 am ET

Knowing what we know now about Hillary, how she's divided the party by stirring up chaos after chaos on every level imaginable, I wander if we had to do this race all over again, would as many folks still have voted for her?

Buss   June 2nd, 2008 9:46 am ET

I'm at a complete loss as to why this woman (other then running against a black man) is even in the public eye!? She represents every evil and disguisting characteristic that our society SHOULD completely ignor.

She lies, almost convincingly, about everything she's ever done. If there were armed guards in Bosnia when she landed on the plane,,, then ok, I can let the "shot at by snipers" comment go. But there weren't... she was surrounded by Sinbad and a bunch of "girl scouts".

She cheats, she signed agreements not to campaign in MI/FL because those states broke the rules... then turns around and campaigns anyway. The conspirist in me thinks she may have been behind that agreement anyway.... and knew, in the end, those votes would have to be counted!?!?!!?

And, of course, she tollerates those who lie and cheat as well. Bill Clinton.... enough said!

Where I come from, kids get kicked out of college for doing those things! People get fired from jobs! Wives give themselves a gut check and kick that lying bastard out of the house!

But we worship her because...... well, I'm still at a loss for that one!?

Brian   June 2nd, 2008 9:45 am ET

This is desperate, and shows a willingness to accept that rules don't apply to her. I understand the gut feeling of popular votes in this country, especially to Democrats, but everyone knows and has long known that the popular vote is meaningless in primaries and generals; delegates and electoral votes, respectively, are the means of political victory. By arguing otherwise, she is shooting her own credibility in the foot. That she makes these claims with a straight face, ignoring the facts of MI (no Obama on the ballot), Puerto Rico (no impact in the general), caucus states, etc., is really damaging to her future ability to run for national office credibly.

If the Democrats were smart, they'd scrap proportional allocation in order to align with how general elections work, or simply abolish voting delegates altogether and base their nomination on the popular vote. Who knows, maybe that would even spur a movement to eliminate the Electoral College.

LINDA,FL   June 2nd, 2008 9:45 am ET

we need to clran America from clintons.
poson, disgrace, monsters, out of mind.
Where do they have off-shore? – Through them there without a right to step on America's land.
Enough.

NIC   June 2nd, 2008 9:45 am ET

Nothing troubles me more then these constant negitive blog directed at Hillary Clinton. Whether a person agrees with Hillary Cliton or not, whether a person support Hillary Clinton or not. Hillary Clinton is a candidate trying for the nomination for President of the USA, not to mention this is a process (yes, a long process). Respect the candidates and respect the process. There is more divide coming from the Obama camp (supporters) then from the Clintion camp.
The fact of the matter is, and Hillary Clinton has a very good point. Hillary Clinton has more votes, period! All this talk of Primary Delegates and November Electorals, blah blah blah. This is when math really doesnt mean much, doesnt give a true reflection of the voters/votes. More people went to the polls and voted for Hillary Clinton this Primary season, take that for what ever that means. Know that the history books will tell this fact forever. So, all you Clinton Haters out there, bash all you want. I suggest you Haters should try to unite rather then divide, because your ridiculous hate blogs are dividing of the Democratic party.

Patrick   June 2nd, 2008 9:45 am ET

Why is it that CNN and others are making such a big deal about Puerto Rico They are not a state and can’t vote in the general election this fall. In effect the votes yesterday don’t matter in the big picture. I also wonder how much brow beating Hillary and Co. did to get that one Superdeligat to come back to her. There has been allot of one sided chatter by CNN and others lifting Hillary to new heights. Are they trying to make up for bashing her over the past couple of months? The fact is she is going to Spin and twist any way she can to get what she wants. That’s the Hillary way. Do whatever it takes to get what she wants. Well she won’t be getting the nomination. Even with her twisted count of the popular vote. She should feel lucky that Florida and Michigan counted at all. Another change of the rules that Hillary pushed for to get something she wanted. Oboma will carry the election this fall. The republicans have screwed things up too badly to get this election.

ZUKIE   June 2nd, 2008 9:45 am ET

I would love to play poker with her she does not know when to fold!!!

POST THIS   June 2nd, 2008 9:44 am ET

OBAMA DON'T HAVE A CHOICE SHE WILL ASK FOR VP OR ASK HIM TO PAY OFF HER DEBT.....SHE'S NOT GOING TO LOSE THIS RACE AND PAY OFF HER OWN DEBT THAT'S FOR SURE.

dizzy gillespie   June 2nd, 2008 9:44 am ET

i think America is getting tired of all of the spin tactics and disengenuous behavior over the course of this campaign and quite frankly it is starting to get pathetic!!! How can you lobby and claim you are "fighting" for the voting rights of Mich and FL voters but totally ignore and discount the thousands upon thousands of votes cast via the caucuses, which are the only means of voting some states employ, just to make a weak case that has been flawed this entire nominating process!!!

Hillary, you and your campaign have spun every top in the toy box, underestimated your opponent, mismanaged your campaign both financially and strategically, now it is time to go away; you have lost this contest fair and square!!! The FACTS are that you hinged your campaign on wrapping this contest up on Super Tuesday and didn't plan for to go the distance. Senator Obama's campaign planned for 50 states while yours did not!!! (notice i didn't even dwell on the pitiful race/gender bating and fear mongering) Either go away now or roll up your sleeves and go to work for Sen Obama!!!

Nateru   June 2nd, 2008 9:44 am ET

Here's something that will bug you once you start to notice it.
In "How to be a Model 101", they always state to open your mouth when you smile. Hillary has adopted this action january-ish.....now, I challenge anyone to find a picture of her smiling without her mouth open...while this may look acceptable on an eighteen-year-old model, Hillary: STOP IT!!! it looks STUPID.

NIC   June 2nd, 2008 9:44 am ET

Nothing troubles me more then these constant negitive blog directed at Hillary Clinton. Whether a person agrees with Hillary Cliton or not, whether a person support Hillary Clinton or not. Hillary Clinton is a candidate trying for the nomination for President of the USA, not to mention this is a process (yes, a long process). Respect the candidates and respect the process. There is more divide coming from the Obama camp (supporters) then from the Clintion camp.
The fact of the matter is, and Hillary Clinton has a very good point. Hillary Clinton has more votes, period! All this talk of Primary Delegates and November Electorals, blah blah blah. This is when math really doesnt mean much, doesnt give a true reflection of the voters/votes. More people went to the polls and voted for Hillary Clinton this Primary season, take that for what ever that means. Know that the history books will tell this fact forever. So, all you Clinton Haters out there, bash all you want. I suggest you Haters should try to unite rather then divide, because your ridiculous hate blogs are dividing of the Democratic party.

O8AMA   June 2nd, 2008 9:44 am ET

If this election is not about her but about the people, then why is she not quitting. It is all about her! Father Fledger may have presented his sermon in a contemptious way but what he said what the truth-Ask all Clinton supporters-they thought this would be over ob Feb 5th. For the life of me, how can they cry foul about Michigan and Florida? The delegates did not matter then...now they do because you are behind...you can change the rules anytime, because you are entitled? Obama played by the rules..he is smart...he did his homework and he has run a relatively positive campaign. He has been hurt by racism (What the population of African Americans, for those who may be quick to say they are behind him) more as opposed to Hillary who has benefitted from sexism and she is still behind?

RONNIE   June 2nd, 2008 9:44 am ET

If I was Hillary I would not campaign for this idiot.I have no respect for Obamba at all

johnny reb   June 2nd, 2008 9:43 am ET

Hillary is following the principle that proposes that if you repeat something over and over and over (regardless of whether your statement is true or false), you can make people believe it is true. She really beilieves that your average American voter is stupid, cannot think or reason for themselves; and can be easily duped. When this nomination process is over, Hillary's humiliation is going to be complete and total. But, then again, she'll find some excuse to blame someone else for her failure; and repeat it over and over and over . . . .

GO HILL!   June 2nd, 2008 9:43 am ET

If you count Pledged Delegates only, and remove Edwards delegates (which I'm sorry, BO doesn't deserve, Edwards voters went to Hillary), and give Hillary the delegates SHE EARNED in MI and FL, the amount separating them is 74. Out of over 3300 delegates, they are separated by 74. If the media and DNC had done their jobs and vetted BO early on, if the media and DNC hadn't been in the tank for him since LAST YEAR, Hillary Clinton would be the Dems nominee by a wide margin. Instead, the media and the dems chose to treat Hillary like you know what, demean her, call her and Bill racists, belittle the experience she has and the work she has done, allowed BO to basically COPY her policies and ideas, and in doing so, the dems will lose in November. Plus, more actual PEOPLE voted for her in this election, even with all the negative press and misogyny.

Shelly D   June 2nd, 2008 9:42 am ET

Your Primary Process is like having an election in
Zimbabwe......

As a former resident, I wonder when your country is going to smarten up!

Your "process" could not be more convoluted if you tried.

RONNIE   June 2nd, 2008 9:42 am ET

If campaigns

RG in MA   June 2nd, 2008 9:42 am ET

Here is my prediction – Hillary is going to end up filing a law suit arguing her how she should have been the nominee, which will end up dragging this whole process beyond August – a disaster for Democats.

val   June 2nd, 2008 9:42 am ET

she's a scary woman.

Mark Huey   June 2nd, 2008 9:41 am ET

This woman can NEVER stop lying.

Habbitual liar.

Meg   June 2nd, 2008 9:41 am ET

Every vote count she says. What about all the states where there were caucuses? Don't those voters matter to her? Oh, in January she just loved the good people of Iowa as her campaign workers went around handing out donuts...

You can say she won the popular vote only if you ignore all the caucus states and then count places where Obama didn't campaign (Fla) and where his name wasn't even on the ballot (Michigan), and places that cannot vote in Nov. (PR)

MJE WPG   June 2nd, 2008 9:41 am ET

Hillary.PLEASE GO AWAY.

TF   June 2nd, 2008 9:41 am ET

She wins the popular vote if she doesn't count Caucus states. So let me get this straight. She fought tooth and nail for Florida and Mich.to count, but the Caucus states don't count. So I guess only the states she won count now.

Hillary you ran a great race and came closer then anyone has ever come to the nomination without winning. Please end this and allow Barack the chance to ask you to be the first woman VP. Then in 8 years you will be the POTUS.

Brian   June 2nd, 2008 9:41 am ET

Popular vote....is this some creative math that she is coming up with again? Also, if you include the caucus states then Obama is ahead. I guess the people in those states dont matter since it does not help her. Makes me wonder if she is running her campaign like this, how would she really run the United States. Its about over in more day, then we all can unite and move on.

PJ Independent, New York   June 2nd, 2008 9:41 am ET

Obama will NEVER win in November. Once again, the Democrats (liberal Democrats) are shooting themselves in the foot.

The Democrats had the opportunity to win the White House back but they decided to once again,push their most liberal candidate down everyone's throats. History has showed us that it doesn't work... Ted Kennedy, Walter Mondale, Michael Dukakis, Al Gore, John Kerry, etc. All were BIG liberals that ran for president, it didn't work for them and it's NOT going to work with Obama either. Obama was named the MOST LIBERAL in Washington in 2007. So not only does he have the liberal factor to deal with in the general election but he also has to deal with the fact that possibly 20-30% or more of Hillary Clinton's supporter's will not support him in November. He's also got his MANY scandals (that conveniently didn't come out till after Super Tuesday, thanks to the liberal news media) to deal with too. People will not forget about these either... Rev. Wright, Rezko, the 'bitter' comments, his wife being proud for the first time in her life of the US comment, etc. etc. Also add the fact that he's totally lacking substance/experience and it only makes his chances that much worse. He reads a good pre-written speech, that's it. It's just amazing how many are hypnotized by this guy.

I find it so amusing how most Obama supporter's will still say he's going to win and will go one step further and say that he doesn't need Hillary Clinton's supporter's. LOL What a joke!

John McCain will win by one of the biggest landslides in history. For everyone who believes Obama will win, they are delusional.

Linda   June 2nd, 2008 9:41 am ET

I hardly think the fact that she bused in rude, screaming, and disruptive people Saturday will enhance her standing with the super delegates. I would think it would turn them further into the Obama side. He asked his supporters to stay away from the meeting unless they had tickets and to be respectful. Quite a difference.

PJ Independent, New York   June 2nd, 2008 9:41 am ET

Obama will NEVER win in November. Once again, the Democrats (liberal Democrats) are shooting themselves in the foot.

The Democrats had the opportunity to win the White House back but they decided to once again,push their most liberal candidate down everyone's throats. History has showed us that it doesn't work... Ted Kennedy, Walter Mondale, Michael Dukakis, Al Gore, John Kerry, etc. All were BIG liberals that ran for president, it didn't work for them and it's NOT going to work with Obama either. Obama was named the MOST LIBERAL in Washington in 2007. So not only does he have the liberal factor to deal with in the general election but he also has to deal with the fact that possibly 20-30% or more of Hillary Clinton's supporter's will not support him in November. He's also got his MANY scandals (that conveniently didn't come out till after Super Tuesday, thanks to the liberal news media) to deal with too. People will not forget about these either... Rev. Wright, Rezko, the 'bitter' comments, his wife being proud for the first time in her life of the US comment, etc. etc. Also add the fact that he's totally lacking substance/experience and it only makes his chances that much worse. He reads a good pre-written speech, that's it. It's just amazing how many are hypnotized by this guy.

I find it so amusing how most Obama supporter's will still say he's going to win and will go one step further and say that he doesn't need Hillary Clinton's supporter's. LOL What a joke!

John McCain will win by one of the biggest landslides in history. For everyone who believes Obama will win, they are delusional.

Rusty   June 2nd, 2008 9:40 am ET

And the Bears would have won more games last year if points from special teams determined the winner. The "popular vote" is an interesting statistic - but is not how the score is kept.

I sure hope the supers but an end to this tomorrow by a margin that makes Michigan and Florida irrelevant.

RONNIE   June 2nd, 2008 9:40 am ET

Why the heck did they give Obamba any Michigan delegates?He chose to take his name off the ballot and then he tried to get back on the ballot but too late. LOOSER!!!!!!!!
I will with great joy vote for McCain If Hillary Clinton isn't on the November ballot.

DFinFL   June 2nd, 2008 9:40 am ET

If this is her idea of "facts" that justify continuing her political war, I sure don't trust her to judge "facts" that justify starting or continuing a shooting war.

..

Darren M.   June 2nd, 2008 9:40 am ET

I have lost all respect for this woman. There was a time earlier on that I would have voted for either candidate. But over the last few months, Hillary has really shown her true colors. She has made herself into a "fighter", when in reality she is only a "loser". Even worse is she has supporters believing fault lies everywhere else except with the Clinton campaign. The Clinton campaign simply did not do a good job. It seems like those working on Clinton's team are starting to face reality; the negative campaign did not work this time. Saying that the best candidate did not win only shows Clinton is only interested in one thing.... herself. Clinton reminds me of a kid on the playground that throws a fit when he doesn't get his own way. Bottom line is Obama won fair and square. If Hollary supporters want to leavethe Dem party, let them. You will be on an island. My guess is most people on here who claim to be Hillary supporters that want to leave the party are actually Republicans trying to help create a rift within the party. The focus needs to be on beating John McCain.

sb   June 2nd, 2008 9:40 am ET

No one seems to understand. I hear a lot of "she'll Be gracious in defeat. She'll campaign for Obama". She is going to go kicking and screaming to the convention in August. She will never concede defeat and will never stop.

Jerry in Boston   June 2nd, 2008 9:40 am ET

Iowa, Nevada, Washington & Maine have not released popular vote totals. Obama only 'leads' if you guesstimate for these caucus states. Just like the DNC guesstimated the number of 'votes' Obama got in Michigan.

If you take out these rigged numbers, Clinton leads the popular vote tally by 303,785.

Obama only leads if you think it's ok to guess how people voted. Which I suppose both he and his supporters think is ok.

Martin   June 2nd, 2008 9:40 am ET

Something I still don't understand about the 'most popular votes' Senator Clinton claims and a point no one seems to mention. This does not include the Caucus states in the total or am I wrong on this. Voters in states such as Iowa, Washington, Maine etc are not included???

PFV (PA female voter)   June 2nd, 2008 9:40 am ET

Sen. Clinton, I would feel much more sympathetic toward your argument had you made it BEFORE the primary. Or, had you made it BEFORE signing your john hancock indicating your understanding that MI & Fl votes would be discounted.

As Donna Brazille so eloquently quoted her Momma, "Play by the rules. If you try to change the rules during the game, that's wrong. If you try to change the rules after the game, that's CHEATING."

deliseo-hartford, ct   June 2nd, 2008 9:40 am ET

I'm coming from a fair point of view. If those candidates knew that Michigan and Florida would count they would of been down in those two states campaigning their heads off. So I think the popular vote is not a real popular vote. There were plenty of people who didn't go and it's unfair to the other candidates that didn't get a chance to spread their messages throughout two states.
My opinion the popular vote is note valid.

arc   June 2nd, 2008 9:40 am ET

Democracy, like any social or political system needs to adhere to a basic foundation of regulations so that it may operate effectively. The United States should serve as a global example where the transition of power is not marked by violence and unrest.

Hillary Clinton isn’t following the rules that were established in part by Hickes and agreed upon by her. Will Hillary Clinton still be allowed to continue her campaign If Senator Obama reaches the total number of delegates required to win the nomination in Montana and South Dakota?

Are the Hillary Clinton supporters who threaten to support McCain willing to enlist in the armed services to fight the war that Hillary Clinton voted for and proudly supported alongside Bush and Cheney?

Joe PA   June 2nd, 2008 9:39 am ET

Winning the popular vote is like winning honorable mention at the science fair!!!!!!

Anthony   June 2nd, 2008 9:39 am ET

This is getting obnoxious. Oh how great life would be if we could all manipulate facts to fit our own definitions.

Clinton is NOT ahead in anything except the number of lies and half-truths told during the primary season.

JDC // Ohio   June 2nd, 2008 9:39 am ET

The Dems cannot make their own party work, and they think they can do better running the country? Give me a break!

Luke   June 2nd, 2008 9:39 am ET

I thought people had the power to decide in this country. If Clinton doesn't make it, I vote for McCain. Obama just doesn't seem to have enough experience. Maybe in 20 years, but not 2008 for me.

Jeff   June 2nd, 2008 9:38 am ET

I believe that this is an echo of a great divide between our parties that has been here for a long time. Both sides have said things that we shouldn't have said and this needs to stop. Hillary supporters need to stop calling Obama sexist, and Obama supporters need to stop calling Hillary racist.

We need to stand united on common ground. I understand that the anger and frustration of losing can cause us to do and act ways that we regret later. Let me say this voting McCain or putting HIllary on ballot will not solve anything. We must stop this foolishness before it devours us.

Obama racist, sexist? I say we all share some form of racism or sexism. This race has proven it as we struggle to find what makes us great we have used this ideology to divide us. The more we hold onto negativity and resentment the more we lose ourselves in the deluded belief that we are wronged in some way.

Obama has stated time and time again that he holds Hillary in high regard. I too have held Hillary in high regard. But I think it's Obama's charisma (for a lack of a better word), that can lead us to a better life. His ideals are not far from Hillary’s and to state that Obama is a hardcore liberal is accurate but same with Hillary’s. If you study their voting records and stances you'll notice that for the most part they stand pretty close.

Racism? Sexism? These subjects have been a sensitive subject all to often and so instead we chose to deny this fact. We've held it under the rug of denial and with this nomination it brought everything out in all its ugliness.

I understand the frustration of losing all to well. But to hold on to this anger and frustration only lends beating ourselves. We cannot let this happen this year. Not if we want to win this nomination.

I understand the injustice that some may very well feel that was dealt to Hillary but all of us who are dealt injustice must accept it. Failing to do this we will fail ourselves, and when we fail our selves we cannot move for a better life.

Is it we the people or is we the divided. Thus I ask Hillary supporters to vote Obama not because they personally like him as a person but because he is the best for our country.

If Hillary was the nominee I would vote for her, not because I like her because I don't. But because I would feel she would be the better alternative than McCain, who offers us more debt and more gimmicks that won’t work for us.

So please push your anger aside and take the time to examine the issues and compare them carefully. If you were truly for Hillary's stances and not just for her as a person you will find you'd choose Obama and not McCain.

Perilous   June 2nd, 2008 9:38 am ET

There was a time where I would have been ok with either one of the democratic candidates winning nomination. Hillary has pretty much taken herself out of the running with all of the misquotes, bad recollections, and typical old-school mud slinging. I think she has forgotten about what this election is all about....fixing 8 years of neglect on some pressing domestic/foriegn issues and restoring the US global image.

She probably would have faired better if she had stuck to an honest track of change, and not all of the pandering to the various voting groups.

Edgar - Orlando, Florida   June 2nd, 2008 9:38 am ET

Obama is walking wonded I doubt he can fix his issues by November – Hillary is way better and stronger!!!

Linda   June 2nd, 2008 9:38 am ET

One of the reasons Hillary is not winning is that some people see through her lies and distortions. She and Bill have been able to campaign in that way in the past, but the internet, blogs, and YouTube have changed the game. We can fact check far more easily now, and that has been a detriment to the Clinton campaign. She still has some low information voters who don't see her deceit, but as time goes on, they will become fewer in number. It is hard to believe that she started out saying she would be ready on day one.

shirley   June 2nd, 2008 9:38 am ET

Clinton NOT ahead in the popular vote, the news media should not let her continue to make this claim without pointing out that she is doing a fancy numbers game. If you must print this lie at least please point out the truth at the same time.

Amia   June 2nd, 2008 9:38 am ET

The Clintons have been a power house–Democratic royalty, but's over. I think what they are doing now is destroying the democratic party. What a sore loser. I go back forth on whether she should have conceded already. No matter what, Wednesday morning I think we should have a nominee and start the game plan for November. Can anyone tell me how Hillary ,who has run a dirty, negative, and long campaign against Obama, can possibly flip the switch and support him enthusiastically? I don't think it will happen. Once upon a time, it would have been great to see them on the same ticket, but I think it's a horrible idea now.

Mr DE   June 2nd, 2008 9:38 am ET

As of 05/31/2008....poll
McCain vs Obama.... 45 – 46
McCain vs Hillary .. 44 – 48 Hillary will WIN...

You decided who you want your next president.....

FYI.

Awarding delegates proportionally, meaning you can finish second or third in a primary and still win delegates to the party's national convention. As long candidates get at least 15 percent of the vote, they are eligible for delegates.

1972 Democratic Primary popular vote
Hubert Humphrey 4,121,372 (25.77%)
George McGovern 4,053,451 (25.34%)
Henry M. Jackson 505,198 (3.16%)

1972 Democratic National Convention
Delegate Vote for Presidential Nomination
George McGovern 1,865
Henry M. Jackson 525
Hubert Humphrey 67

So it seems not always popular vote will get nominee.

1972 General Election
Richard Nixon (R) 520 electoral vote
George McGovern (D) 17 electoral vote

POST THIS   June 2nd, 2008 9:38 am ET

HILLARY U RAISED 200 MILLION THEN U LOANED YOURSELF 11 MILLION AND NOW U ARE DEBT SPENDING AROUND 22 MILLION.......I DON'T THINK SO.

icharliem   June 2nd, 2008 9:38 am ET

Clinton continues to demonstrate why she should not be considered to be Obama's running mate ... she will use every tactic to twist the facts to her advantage because it's always about what's good for "her" ... reminds me of my 2nd wife ...

Katherine   June 2nd, 2008 9:37 am ET

I don't understand why the TV newscasters do not question Senator Clinton's representatives in their interviews how she can claim this when Obama's name was not on the Michigan ballot. Also, how can she dismiss the other states with caucases. Is she saying the voice doesn't matter.

I am really disappointed when I see this on CNN and MSNBC.

Katherine

Mischelle from Illinois   June 2nd, 2008 9:37 am ET

I diagree that it is a stretch for her. The supers are not a guarantee, they can change their mind and Obama has too many negatives. Just the simple fact that he was "forced" to quit his church should give those who must decide (and it isn't the voters) something to ask themselves. " IS HIS INDOCTRINATION

Nathan   June 2nd, 2008 9:37 am ET

Ugh.....I don't want a President who has to lie to themselves to make them feel like they're still winning. Had Obama even been on the Michigan ballot, she might have a case, but this is getting old. You can't manipulate this in your favor anymore Hillary. Every day you complain or take another shot at Obama, the smile on McCain's wrinkly old face gets bigger and bigger

Puffy   June 2nd, 2008 9:37 am ET

Hill just give up baby, that's the way it is wen too people compute one have to loose. This was not for u, people don't always get what they want. Act nice live the race with respect and accept defit. You are the only one who belive this can be take it away from Obama and be giving to you!! Think Baby, think right.

Sarah   June 2nd, 2008 9:37 am ET

She has the popular vote if she counts a state where she disobeyed the rules. Where she didn't have enough self-restraint to follow what her party told her. Obama thought of the Democratic Party as a whole, not simply his political gain. She has a complete disregard for the Democratic Party and deserves no sympathy in this situation. Ever notice how she was fine with no FL or MI until she actually needed them? Now it's "oh every vote every vote" but that is only because it suits her. And with the gas tax she claims no economist will tell her what's what. Is she an economist? Does she know diddly about it? No.

Very inconsistent. Very selfish. Very bad for this country.

PSmith   June 2nd, 2008 9:37 am ET

When this is all said and done....
Obama will eventually win because everyone is ganging up on Hillary.
If Obama loses this one, I bet you every black person will put up the race cards and they will go on the streets and riot. As usual, what else is new!

I was watching Glen Beck last night and it scares me to think that Obama is so attached to so many questionable people and yet he has attracted so many people.

I was watching the DNC meeting this weekend and they scared me as well because these idiots thought that we as the voters are so so stupid that we would believe they no political gain by their decisions.

I will then concede that Obama will win the nomination but I will vote for McCain because, Hillary will come back in 4 years.

Sam   June 2nd, 2008 9:36 am ET

Obama/Hillary 2008 & 2012!

Mr. Coffey, Raleigh, NC   June 2nd, 2008 9:36 am ET

The Clinton math is funny. Exclude 12 states because they didn't like the results. They don't count?

Alaska
Colorado
Hawaii
Idaho
Iowa
Kansas
Maine
Minnesota
Nebraska
Nevada
North Dakota
Washington
Wyoming
ANY popular votes for Obama in Michigan

This is also strange. Clinton counts Puerto Rico but not the following contests:

Democrats Abroad
Guam
American Samoa
Virgin Islands

Clinton lost those too. They knew the rules before the game started. If she won all of those fair and square, I would pull the trigger for her. McCain has ZERO chance of me voting for him. I want my country back, no more "sacrifices" for the GOP.

Becky,OH   June 2nd, 2008 9:36 am ET

She fought hard the past month to count all the votes from the Michigan and Florida primaries...saying all along that is was wrong to “disinfranchise” voters...but her own popular vote math disinfranchises voters, first discounting the caucus votes and now the uncommited Michigan vote.......I smell a rat

Toronto expat   June 2nd, 2008 9:36 am ET

Why stop at Puerto Rico? Why doesn't Hillary ask people all over the world who they would vote for? I suggest polling those in, say, France, Argentina, Canada and Australia and ask them who they would vote for, so she can add to her lame arguement that, given the choice, more people would vote for her too. The electoral college is the system under which the Democratic Party chooses a nominee.

Hillary was running a Super Tuesday coronation, not a campaign, that was foiled in February. What does that say about her judgement, not to mention her ego?

I find it interesting that Obama routinely speaks to (mostly white) audiences in the tens of thousands, while Clinton maintains that he will not get that 'white, blue collar vote.' Really? So all those people are Ivy League university educated elitists? Someone needs to write her a reality check.

Jordan   June 2nd, 2008 9:36 am ET

Hillary is the epitome of selfeshness and dishonor. Any legacy the Clinton's may have once enjoyed is totally eviscerated.

tim   June 2nd, 2008 9:36 am ET

Mrs. Clinton should be the nominee. Send Mr. Obama back to the
cr.azy Church with all the cast of goof balls and haters

Pratap Lingam   June 2nd, 2008 9:36 am ET

She looks so desperate to get the nomination. It's all about herself. She does not care about the rules set by DNC and her own party officials. When she was winning the votes, she did not want Michigan and Florida. When she started loosing, she brought Michian and Florida into the picture, as if she is the saviour of the people from those two states. I call her an opportunist.

Hillary, please get out before you ruin our party and Obama chances to become the President of the United States of America.

Brian   June 2nd, 2008 9:36 am ET

Talk about arrogance...that anyone could say that all 237,762 "uncommitted" votes from Michigan belong to her when Senator Obama had withdrawn his name from the ballot I/A/W the rules of the DNC and she did not is beyond me. Anyone with half a brain would consider this to be no more than a bald faced lie...."uncommitted" means just that...her name was on the ballot and 237,762 chose not to vote her...Why not? Now she claims that these votes are hers alone. I think not. I think the Democratic Party needs someone a little more trustworthy in the White House than Ms. Clinton.

Carol   June 2nd, 2008 9:36 am ET

When I was six and i tried to change the rules when the game didn't go my way, my friends would say "cheater, cheater pumpkin eater." It worked when I was six and it works for Hillary now that she is over 60. I was also fascinated by her stating in her "victory" speech last night that she "won" Nevada. I was an Obama delegate to the Nevada state democractic convention, where Obama not only increased his level of poplar support to 55-45 percent, but also his share of the Nevada delegates from 13-12 to 14-11. Maybe new math worked in the 70s but it doesn't today. She needs to find a way to be a gracious loser or else she can kiss her legacy goodbye.

Art Lemons   June 2nd, 2008 9:36 am ET

She is right that she is the most popular of the dem candidates. After what the democrats have done with her, she should abandon the party and run as an independent. She would get more votes than Obama.

lyn-nj   June 2nd, 2008 9:36 am ET

The popular vote does count! Hillary has the most. The number of VOTES should be the true measure and NOT super delegates.

Lyn-NJ

FactCheck   June 2nd, 2008 9:35 am ET

My little daughter declares that she's a princess. She's says this on a daily basis but it still doesn't make it so.

Zach   June 2nd, 2008 9:34 am ET

I see a lot of similarities between her supporters and Ron Paul's supporters. The only exception is that Dr. Paul's supporters have not declared that they will vote for McCain in the general election.

Count all the votes   June 2nd, 2008 9:34 am ET

This is nonsense. It doesn't include FOUR caucus states. In other words, in her only remaining claim, she DISENFRANCHISES FOUR states.

Mikey, Scottsdale AZ   June 2nd, 2008 9:34 am ET

President Obama,

Please, please, be careful you choose a VP you can trust ...in my mind that very very short list would include Colin Powell, Joe Biden, or Wesley Clark.

Healing a political party is not as important as healing a country and a world .

Making an error here may obliterate all you have accomplished which has been spectacular and amazing.

You are not only our Candidate for change, but our only hope for restoration !

From a genuinely concerned 60 year old white male under $40K income with two eyes, two hands, two feet, and a burdened heart for America !

God Bless & Protect You, Mr. President

Kyle in MI   June 2nd, 2008 9:34 am ET

It's obvious there's not a clear winner here. The popular vote is essentially split 50/50. Obama has done well enough to get the nomination. Hillary has won all the states that mean the most in November.

I wish after all this time I knew what Obama stood for. "Hope" is not enough for my vote.

Hillary should run for president with Obama as the VP. He can get some actual experience then in the White House while she repairs our foreign relations. Once her 8 years are done, Obama can pick up the next 8 years. The Democrats are missing out on an oportunity to hold the White House for the next 16 years.

Grant   June 2nd, 2008 9:34 am ET

Keep the fire burning CNN, but I think you have milked the ratings long enough...good for you guys! Corporate will handing out big bonuses at the end of Q2 for Wolf and the boys...Bill Schneider as well for all the trivial facts on the voting preferences of the Puerto Ricans...lol

Bruce Taylor, Berkeley, CA   June 2nd, 2008 9:34 am ET

She can claim whatever she wants, she lost the election though. It will be official by the end of this week and the superdelegates will have the final say.

Brad   June 2nd, 2008 9:33 am ET

"CNN's estimate of the caucus-goers, Obama leads Clinton 17,928,000 to 17,843,000."

ADS   June 2nd, 2008 9:33 am ET

The Michigan/Florida meeting showed how the Clinton camp defines compromise. They asked for everything for themselves, giving nothing to anyone else. This is her example of reaching across the aisle???

s   June 2nd, 2008 9:33 am ET

As many have tried to tell Mrs. Clinton it is over. She has flip flopped on so many issues, that she will be lucky to be reelected another term as Senator of NY. If Mrs. Clinton continues to push this issue she will be stoking the fires of her "bitter" supporters who will untimately divide the party. If she stays in past tomorrow's primaries it will be evident that she is in this for herself only, and not the people or the party.

Tom - Canada   June 2nd, 2008 9:33 am ET

It's like telling the truth BUT NOT the whole truth.

The whole truth is, she has the more people who who voted for her on primary ballots than any other Nominee appreciating that Obama has the majority of votes in the Caucas States. Also, he received 0 votes in Michigan (his name not being on the ballot).

The point here is do you really want an individule running your country that does not tell the whole truth. Oh, I forgot, you already have one!

Rick W.   June 2nd, 2008 9:33 am ET

HOW CAN SHE CLAIM THE POPULAR VOTE IN PUERTO RICO WHEN THESE PEOPLE AREN'T EVEN GOING TO BE VOTING IN THE FINAL ELECTION.

Sleepless in Florida   June 2nd, 2008 9:33 am ET

Hillary Clinton is the latest divisive force in America. She belongs on the mantle, right next to President Bush. She's even winning the districts that traditionally go to the Republicans in the general election.

Way to go Hillary. You're ego and pride is dividing America.

What can you possibly expect the results to be? It's been over for a long time. You're money and underhanded/shady deals can't help you now.

Hillary, you have weakened a nation.

LT   June 2nd, 2008 9:32 am ET

I hope that when she campaigns for Obama, Clinton does so with the same tenacity, but with a little less of this dissembling, please.

Well, many of her supporters are hoping for a MIRACLE and that the Super Delegates will "annoint" her the heir appearant or that she will pull a Joe Lieberman and run Independent.

She has said too many devisive things to be trusted (again trust and polictician an oxymoron). Her campaign is deep in the red, the leading candidate has more money, more donors, more of the popular vote and lets not forget more delegates.

Lat time I checked, Al Gore lost to Bush when Gore had more of the Popular Vote, but Bush had more Delegates.

Tammy - KCMO   June 2nd, 2008 9:32 am ET

There is something seriously wrong with this person mentally. How soon after June 3rd is the DNC going to let her know it's over? If you wait much longer there won't be a DNC to vote for because the split will become permanent.

She has committed political suicide and her chances of ever being in contention for any political position is slim to none after what she's done.

She has been given numerous opportunities to bow out gracefully and instead she just comes up with a new way to do her fuzzy math to give herself some hope of being in the lead. I'm sorry but the only way to be in the lead is if you follow the DNC rules. Obama is in the lead and most likely will still be there.

Media – it's time to quit feeding this person's ego.

Ron   June 2nd, 2008 9:32 am ET

Hillary Clinton will stop at nothing to get the nomination.
I think the people of this country is sick of the Bush's & the Clinton's.
Her husband was a disgrace to this country with his actions with Monica.
With the background on the Clintons, she has the nerve to quote Harry Truman. Could you image Truman's opinon of the Clintons.
Give it up Hillary, you have disgraced this country and the Democratic
party enough.

AfricanforObama   June 2nd, 2008 9:32 am ET

Last time I checked the person with the most delegates gets the nomination.
Where in the world is she? And does she really think the popular vote will be considered?
Rules do not apply to her when she is winning but I bet if she were winning the popular vote claim will never be mentioned.
So sick of you Hillary!! GET OUT!!!

jimmy   June 2nd, 2008 9:32 am ET

hrc, stop claiming what is not true okay.

Scott Glenn in Wa   June 2nd, 2008 9:32 am ET

She sure is a fighter.
Campaining , what was it 6 days on the island to get her 68% win? Yep she fought real hard and less than 30% of the voters turned out.........
......good thing she got those votes to add to her popular vote arguement
......to bad Puerto Rico does not count in the general
......fighting on all the same.........
......Money well spent I'm sure

Obama!

Anya   June 2nd, 2008 9:32 am ET

Please post:

I always admired Hillary. However now I am admiring her more than ever. I am very impressed by the strength, the courage and the resilience, shown by her.
As a professional career woman, I am very proud of her. Whether she wins nomination or not, she is the real WNNER in this contest (for me).

james   June 2nd, 2008 9:32 am ET

CNN – post my comments!!!! Why on earth do you NOT?

Renee   June 2nd, 2008 9:32 am ET

I wonder what the media reaction would be if it was Obama loosing the delegate count yet continuing to campaign and hurt Hillary Clinton...

Indiae.   June 2nd, 2008 9:32 am ET

My goodness.... Hillary reminds me of Bill Belichick before the super bowl.

Hillary... PLEASE STEP DOWN. WE DO NOT WANT YOU AS PRESIDENT. Jesus. I know I'm not the only one who will be voting for McCain if this woman (if you can call her that) gets the nomination. Please, for the love of your country, step away now and let the man who can beat McCain have this election! Not to mention, the superdelegates are gonna give him the vote anyway! Why are you delaying the inevitable!?

Kevin   June 2nd, 2008 9:32 am ET

I don't feel sad for Hillary. She's run a bad campaign. She has openly said over and over that she was in it for the long haul – until Feb. 5th!

This is poor judgement and short sightedness on her part.

I feel horrible for her supporters who deserve a better candidate and campaign.

And now that she's following this divisive argument of a "popular-vote mandate" I feel horrible for our party, which she will surely continue to divide with this argument.

I've been holding my thoughts in reserve, out of respect for her and the voters in every state (and non-ge-voting territory) to cast their ballot, but this is getting ridiculous folks.

Please, supporters of Mrs. Clinton – I beg you to come to your senses and at some point soon, admit that she has lost. She has made serious mistakes in her campaign, and she has narrowly lost a fair contest.

We need you, we need your support, we need your energy and wisdom. The supporters of Obama can't defeat 4 more years of Bush alone.

DrMan   June 2nd, 2008 9:32 am ET

I just find this whole thing comical. For weeks (months?) libs have been screaming for Clinton to drop out of the race and support Obama. This weekend proved that's not going to happen. The only way Clinton will ever be president is if Obama loses the general election. And they say Republicans have no chance.

Marc, Toronto   June 2nd, 2008 9:32 am ET

I agree with you 100% wolfsbane.

It's as if Barack Obama got punished for taking the high rd. and Hillary was like a spoiled little kid that was going to keep crying until she got her own way. I believe the media bought most of what she was selling and they should have stood up to her just like they should have with Bush before the Iraq war. Sheesh.

Michigan and Florida still don't count in my eyes. You can't have a recognizable election when the voters were told in advance that their votes would not count. Obama would have won both Florida and Michigan as both fit the demographics of states he won big in.

E.White, Houston,TX   June 2nd, 2008 9:32 am ET

This is a primary election. The Democratic Party will choose a nominee with delegates. The "popular vote" is meaningless.

Especially the way the Clinton campaign arrives at these numbers.

Every vote doesn't count. Caucus states don't count. American Samoa doesn't count.

This candidate, Mrs. Clinton, is in need of a well deserved vacation.

After a few days away from the spin of her campaign, she may gain some rational perspective, on where she will go from here, and how to get there.

Greg   June 2nd, 2008 9:31 am ET

Sen. Clinton can "claim" anything she wishes.

If pigs had wings, they'd be pigeons.

Bitter   June 2nd, 2008 9:31 am ET

You won the popular vote, sure, if you only count what you want to count. Give up, go away. You can't lie, spin, cheat, misspeak, misremember, change the rules, etc, anymore. You've been "outted". As Daffy Duck would say "You're despicable".

Barbara Campbell, Asheville, NC   June 2nd, 2008 9:31 am ET

Thankfully, the superdelegates are intelligent and savvy enough to see through Hillary's propaganda and deceit. She continues to outright lie about the popular vote, and of course doesn't mention that a substantial percentage of those who voted for her are Limbaugh Republicans. The supers also know HOW she got some of the vote – through dirty tricks and smears and distortions. She ran her campaign into the ground, and never "got" that the American people are sick and tired of negative politics.

Hillary may continue to run, but she's more likely to unite the Democratic party against her and sabotage her own political future.

marylee wagerman atlanta,ga   June 2nd, 2008 9:31 am ET

OBAMA = THE OBAMINEE

ltd1974   June 2nd, 2008 9:31 am ET

Hillary Gon Wild. Face the fact that you lost to Obama, I mean all this changing the rules crap, and turning your supporters against Obama and the media. Smart stuff when her supporters fall for this crap. Most votes wow!

Michigan Voter   June 2nd, 2008 9:31 am ET

This needs to end! Hillary, you ran your race, you lost, and it is time to go home. I actually watched the DNC hearings on Saturday and while I myself did not vote in Michigan's primary (I knew it would not count so why waste my time), I was pleased with the outcome. Harold Ickes and the others on the committee did you not service by acting like whining babies during the testimoies. Then to top it off Mr. Ickes went on the Sunday morning shows and said they would be disputing the decision. I cannot understand how, if you are on the committee that made the rules; the ones that were broken (you remember those, right), you can complain when they are broken yet again, in your favor. Get over it, Obama has had a more successful campaign than you. He has a surplus, you have a debt. He campaigned in those states that in your opinion a Democrat could not win, he did and won them over. He has been gracious during this whole race, you have been whining and crying. Remember when you promised the people of New York that you would not run for President and they elected you again to office, it is time to go back to them and devote your time to them.

The Truth   June 2nd, 2008 9:31 am ET

What makes this ad so laughable is that she isn't leading in the popular vote! This is a a flat out lie!!

Joel-Minnesota   June 2nd, 2008 9:31 am ET

Hillary and her surrogates are masters of deception and will stop at nothing to rip the nomination out of Obama hands even if it means destroying the party and handing the general election to Mccain.

Would not be suprised if she sold her soul.

KHAL Houston, Texas   June 2nd, 2008 9:31 am ET

Get some super "Straight Jackets" ready...you need to reserve (25) twenty -five or so...for the "zombies" (yes Master!) persons (Top Level Only) in the Clinton Camp...because they are going to need 'um.

G T Riley , Ontario   June 2nd, 2008 9:31 am ET

Watching the Democratic primary unfold is a frightening thing for Canadians because we are seriously affected by the result, yet have no way to influence the decision! The ability of the Clintons to bend and ignore the truth is a portent of American politics should she win. The vast majority of Canadians are enthused by the possibility of Obama restoring integrity to the American political system and therefore respect from within and internationally. It is interesting that Hillary receives her greatest support from the least educated (and informed?) citizens. I hope the "superdelegates" put the good of the country first and ensure an Obama victory.

The Dem's   June 2nd, 2008 9:31 am ET

How much longer Lord!?! Hill do the Dem's a favor... Take off your caked on makeup off and take a seat back in the Senate!!!

DELMARVA   June 2nd, 2008 9:31 am ET

This is truly sad.

I sincerely worry about her mental health, especially on Wednesday when Senator Obama hits 2118. She's been in denial for so long and the people surrounding her are enabling her with all these crazy metrics.

Delegates decide the nominee, not popular vote, not the swing state vote, not "hardworking Americans".

In turn, she is enabling her uncompromising supporters. She says such outrageous things about Obama that her folks believe it to be gospel.

NEWSFLASH: OPINIONS (and even BELIEFS) DO NOT EQUAL FACTS!!!!!

Rob   June 2nd, 2008 9:31 am ET

grasping at straws. it's an impossible arguement since you have no popular vote available from caucus states, neb and id not included and 2 beauty contests in fl and mi.

John Brehm   June 2nd, 2008 9:31 am ET

What if Clinton said the earth was flat? Or that she's actually only 29 years old? Would CNN feel compelled to repeat those claims? When candidates lie or willfully distort reality, the media should call them on it, not just repeat their nonsense. Doing so gives an air of legitimacy to pure illusion and, of course, cynical politicans realize this and capitalize on it.

matt   June 2nd, 2008 9:30 am ET

If she is counting all the votes from Michigan in her total including the uncommitted votes then she is a THIEF and a HYPOCRIT because i voted uncommitted because my canidate of choice was not on the ballot, so does she think MY VOTE SHOULD NOT COUNT?
and should be awarded to her? Do not disenfranchise us MRS. CLINTON, and if you count all those votes you will be nothing but a common criminal...no more.. and certainly no less.
LET MY VOTE COUNT FOR WHOM I CAST IT NOT FOR WHOM I DID NOT CAST IT.

Anya   June 2nd, 2008 9:30 am ET

I always admired Hillary. However now I am admiring her more than ever. I am very impressed by the strength, the courage and the resilience, shown by her.
As I a professional career woman, I am very proud of her. Whether she wins nomination or not, she is the real WNNER in this contest (for me).

rw in ct   June 2nd, 2008 9:30 am ET

Hillary should sue certain media networks and certain pundits and windbags. From Sun. NYT: it's a "sad fact that sexism is so pervasive as to be almost invisible and so accepted that to mention it is to risk being accused of hypersensitivity". Mind you, we are talking about the US, not about Saudi Arabia.

Barack Obama 44th president   June 2nd, 2008 9:30 am ET

Sen. Obama took his name off of the ballot because he was abiding by the DNC rules. All those who showed up anyway to vote were told to cast their vote for Obama as uncommitted.

Clinton can NOT claim those votes because the Rules and Bylaws Committee did the fair and right thing by giving the 55 uncommitted Michigan delegates to Sen. Obama. This makes Obama the popular vote winner !

Popular vote count:
Obama – 17,961,368
Clinton – 17,916,763

SEN. OBAMA LEADS BY 44,605, and that figure will increase on Tuesday when Montana and S. Dakota votes.

The record has been set straight, so no matter how Clinton tries to spin it, everyone including the superdelegates know the TRUTH !

It's time for REAL change in Washington, it's time for Barack Obama for president !

Phil in KC   June 2nd, 2008 9:30 am ET

Let's see.... she leads in the popular vote IF you count all the Florida and Michigan votes but DON'T count any of the caucus votes. So, evidently, it's not OK to 'disenfranchise' the voters in FL and MI, who broke the rules, but it is OK to disenfranchise all those voters who came out to caucus for their candidates in accordance with the rules.
That's about the most convoluted logic I've ever heard in politics. Talk about spinning the story to suit your case! Since when does someone who comes out and casts their vote in a caucus count any less than someone who steps behind a curtain and pulls a lever? That's ridiculous!
The superdelegates should come out Wednesday and confirm Obama as the nominee – it wouldn't take very many at that point – and Clinton should bow out gracefully. By taking it any further, she would only harm the Democratic party and our chances in November.

taylor richmond virginia   June 2nd, 2008 9:30 am ET

To be quite objective here, which seems to be a novelty these days..........with causcuses, the fiasco in Mich. & Fla and a # of other things, either candidate claiming a victory in the popular vote is just plain silly.

Anya   June 2nd, 2008 9:30 am ET

I always admired Hillary. However now I am admiring her more than ever. I am very impressed by the strength, the courage and the resilience, shown by her.
As I a professional career women, I am very proud of her. Whether she wins nomination or not, she is the real WNNER in this contest (for me).

Go Priest   June 2nd, 2008 9:30 am ET

Rich from someone who tried to end it on February fifth. You outsmarted and outmaneuvered, lady...Take it like a man!

Lisa   June 2nd, 2008 9:30 am ET

Yeah, Hillary Clinton and Robert Mugabe both.

tough   June 2nd, 2008 9:30 am ET

I'm really glad that Obama has treated her respectfully, regardless of some of the things that have happened.

The unfortunate thing about someone winning is that someone has to lose.

Sweet Daddy   June 2nd, 2008 9:30 am ET

Hillary is like a vampire, trying to suck all the blood out of he campaign but everyone knows the sun will come up and you know what happens to vampires and the sun.

Go BAMA!!!!

Perpetuo   June 2nd, 2008 9:29 am ET

Here come again like 2000 more popular vote, is not the winner? what kind of Democracy are we talking about.? Is the people who vote the ones who elect the candidate or politics that are so --- that the president is a Women

GO HIllary dont give up you are the real winner

Steve   June 2nd, 2008 9:29 am ET

So did Gore...

And unfortunately for her the RULES of the process do not include the POPULAR vote. She needs to reread the rules if she has a problem with ti.

Hilllary   June 2nd, 2008 9:29 am ET

It is amazing she still thinks she is entitled to the president, very sad I fill for her, but some one needs to comfort this women. With all respect hillary it is time to go.

Luis   June 2nd, 2008 9:29 am ET

You go Billary!

Keep the public's focus on what a disfunctional party you are. Print this Clinton News Network (Noe ONN).

Love It

Timber   June 2nd, 2008 9:29 am ET

She won the popular vote a long time ago but that does not matter to the elite liberals who have hijacked our party. They will push Obama to be nominee no matter what. They have kept making the bar higher for Clinton all along. This whole primary was a real eye opener for me. The "democratic" party is not for me and Dean, Pelosi, and the DNC are corrupt.

RED DOG Orlando Florida   June 2nd, 2008 9:29 am ET

As usual she is delusional

jose in brooklyn   June 2nd, 2008 9:29 am ET

I haven't seen the ad, I'm guessing the New York stations agree have come to realize that Hillary is dilusional.
1. Crying
2. Agreeign to penalizing MI / FL
3. Stating that Mi/FL voters were being disenfranchized..MAKE EVERY VOTE COUNT (just those who voted obvioulsy)
4. Political gimmick to grant PR the option of being a commonwealth or a NEW State (really, anyting to win votes)
5. FIGHTING UNTIL THE CONVENTION
6..did i mention, COUNT EVERY VOTE
7[ticker] I'VE WON THE POPULAR VOTE..wahh, wahhh

HELP YOUR PARTY, and BOW out gracefully

KizzyMae   June 2nd, 2008 9:29 am ET

I am wondering why the DNC has not called her out on her behavior. She showe me in PA that she would be willing to do anythign to win by playing the "white folks will vote for me" card. That was silly considering that Obama is also winning same votes as well in other parts of the country. Now she is a victim or sexism, elitism, etc. Come on Hillary, this is not about you or Obama. This is about America and outside of the divide you have caused in this party, the people have spoken. You are changing the rules as this process goes along and someone from the DNC needs to have enough where withall to say, enough...sit your butt down and let's win in Nov. You have even stirred up a lot of women with the thought that you are a victim. Shame on you!
I am a woman and I know a victim when I see on. Shame on you Hillary! If some of your supports will vote for McCain over Obama, so be it.....I still belive that the Democrats will prevail in Nov despite their spitefulness.

Alex H   June 2nd, 2008 9:29 am ET

Hillary: "In every category that doesn't matter, if we manipulate the numbers, I'm winning!"

Bruce, Des Moines, IA   June 2nd, 2008 9:29 am ET

So... count Michigan (who broke the rules under a Democratic Governor) but don't count Iowa – which Hillary came in 3rd place... now how on Earth does that sound appropriate?

RED DOG Orlando Florida   June 2nd, 2008 9:28 am ET

As usual she is delusional

Phillis B   June 2nd, 2008 9:28 am ET

I'm hoping this will finally come to an end after Montana and S.Dakota. The Party needs to pull together, McCain has had a free ride for way too long. If Hillary does not get the nod, I WILL NOT turn around and vote McCain. I cannot endorse another year, let alone 100 yrs. in Iraq. McCain hasn't a clue about the economy (which he admitted himself), or losing a job, or a home. I WILL NOT say yes to another 4-8 yrs. of Bush.
Obama '08

joe   June 2nd, 2008 9:28 am ET

If Hillary demands that "every vote count" how can she declare she has won the popular vote when each "vote" is not counted in several of the Caucus states???

JJ in NY   June 2nd, 2008 9:28 am ET

Using hillary's twisted and tortured logic, and her unique fuzzy math, I guess she could declare that the moon is made of green cheese also .

JOSE ALCANTARA   June 2nd, 2008 9:28 am ET

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHEN HILARY CLINTON IS GOING TO STOP BELIEVING THAT SHE CAN FULL SO MANY MILLION VOTERS !
IT IS TIME TO STOP AND LET THE PROCESS GO FORWARD TO FINISH. I AM TIRED OF LOOKING TO THOSE MRS. CLINTON NON SENSE. PLEASE, SUPERDELEGATES SPEAK UP AND GIVE THE REASON TO WHO HAS IT. RESPECTFULLY. THANKS THANKS.

Truth McTrutherton   June 2nd, 2008 9:28 am ET

It's unfortunate that there are a lot of clueless people out there who actually believe Hillary is leading the popular vote and that the popular vote even matters in the first place.

The reason the delegates is to keep states from getting unequal representation. Each state gets to decide how to run it's primary/caucus "election." To keep things balanced they introduced the delegate system. For example Missouri would have 4 times more influence than Minnesota if they went by the popular vote even though the states are the same size. THIS IS NOT GOOD.

Please, please, please do your research on what the "popular vote" actual refers to and why it means absolutely nothing in the primary/caucus season.

Phyllis   June 2nd, 2008 9:28 am ET

I am so glad that the committe had a conscience to do the right thing. Even though they broke the rule just to accommodate the people Hillary is still not satified! She did not have anything because MI and Fl were not counted. Please tell me she is not looking for them to go with Popular vote when is good and well about the delegates.

joe   June 2nd, 2008 9:27 am ET

If Hillary demands that "every vote count" how can she declare she has won the popular vote when each "vote" is not counted in several of the Caucus states???

Ivar   June 2nd, 2008 9:27 am ET

The DNC did all it could to help her. I personally feel that she would not have had that kind of advantage if they had real elections in the 2 states. Based on what theory does she claim popular voite. If 17 million people favor her, an equal number favor obama. In addition he has the advantage of delegates and more than that he seems to be million time more trust worthy and honorable. In some ways I think she feels that she was supposed to inherit this presidency and now that she realised she wont, she is paying the spoiled sport.

I feel that if she does not change her ways after tommorow, the DNC shoukld expell her from the party.

Frances   June 2nd, 2008 9:27 am ET

If every vote count, then why isn't she counting the caucus votes. Remember those are states that Obama won............Oh and Puerto Rico votes won't carry into the General Election so she has no claim there either.
I see that Hillary is still full of it. The superdelegates are smart enough not to fall for the crap she is alleging.
We all know that the winner of the primary is the person with the most delegates, not votes (Obama has the most votes anyway) and Obama has the most delegates and the majority of delegates. It's over already Hil, so please give it up.

Rudy NYC   June 2nd, 2008 9:27 am ET

Does anyone remember that Hillary Clinton finished, what, 3rd in Iowa? Then, she was basically swept in early February. Obama jumped to roughly a 150 ELECTED delegate lead, and has maintained that lead going into Puerto Rico.

Does anyone remember when Hillary started to actually win states? It was after McCain was running unopposed and was the presumptive nominee. Operation Chaos had kicked into full gear, people.

Clinton's campaign was an organizational disaster, that's a fact not a rant. The people in her campaign were a major factor in not counting the votes in MI and FL in the first place.

Joe, Chicago   June 2nd, 2008 9:27 am ET

How can people support someone who is openly lying?
Hillary is a phony.

Aleisha from Miami   June 2nd, 2008 9:27 am ET

She doesn't count the caucus's because those votes were never counted. If Obama won a lot of the caucus's then that means his popular vote would be more than her's. What's sincerely clear is that their votes are still so close that neither really can claim the popular vote.

I feel for Clinton, but she has a lot ahead of her that she can make right and still fight for her constinuents such as Governor of NY, Senator or even a cabinet member in Obama's Presidency.

Also, I think reagan democrats were already going to vote for McCain. Besides how can we call them truly Democratic and if we put the name Reagan (republican) in front of their names. Just a thought.

K. Lipscomb - Atlanta   June 2nd, 2008 9:27 am ET

It's not true.
You can't just decide to count the votes you want to.

Nick   June 2nd, 2008 9:27 am ET

People keep saying "The rules are the nomination is based on delegates and not the popular vote, you can't change the rules."

But then those same people seem to think it's ok that we threw the rules out in Michigan and gave the uncommitted voters to Obama AND took four of Clintons delegates away from her that she actually earned in that state and gave them to Obama.

Obamabots apparently know what the people want more than the people themselves.

Frankly I hope the super delegates wake up and smell the crap that is team Obama and shift to Hillary.

Ralph   June 2nd, 2008 9:27 am ET

You go girl!! We Hillary supporters will NEVER vote for Obama…17 million votes will go for McCain or a write in for Hillary!!

Hillary has been railroaded by the DNC and the Democratic Party….they will lose millions of party members to Independent.

It is their call and so far they aren't doing so well!!

All the way to the convention Hillary!!!

Sistah   June 2nd, 2008 9:27 am ET

So sad.

What does she have to go back to in D.C. and/or Harlem? She has alot of apologizing to do on the Senate floor and to her neighborhood.

I wouldn't come off the campaign trail either.

She needs to start preparing for her civil case.

Jason   June 2nd, 2008 9:26 am ET

The super delegates have allow her to damage the party for her greed.

HillaryTimeToGo   June 2nd, 2008 9:26 am ET

It is amazing she still thinks she is entitled to the president, very sad I fill for her, but some one needs to comfort this women. With all respect hillary it is time to go.

no spin and straight talk for Obama 08   June 2nd, 2008 9:26 am ET

Clinton is beyond despicable and shameless. she makes me PUKE.

she's done as a politician.

mark my word.

BGIV in NC   June 2nd, 2008 9:26 am ET

NONE OF THIS SURPRIZES ME AT ALL. Next she (via Harold Ickes) is going to call for primary reform that counts popular vote only and subsequently disposing of the electoral college in general election. Whatever suits her need to win.

Montreal   June 2nd, 2008 9:26 am ET

.....Please can anyone explain me why Hilary Clinton did not stop her campaign machine in those both states Florida and Michigan when she knew votes were not supposed to count because of the non-respect of the party rules???? In my opinion, she is responsible of what is happening right now and all the hatred coming from her supporters. What a lack of leadership and hate for democracy. And there are people who wants her as president? With Hilary as president, welcome to the third world war!

Montreal   June 2nd, 2008 9:25 am ET

hey CNN why dont you post my comment?

David, Silver Spring, MD   June 2nd, 2008 9:25 am ET

Why is she so confident that whatever damage she does to the Democratic party in her push for the nomination can be undone in time for the general election? I think it's for two reasons:

1) If she fails and Obama gets defeated because of that damage, she can say, "I told you so."

2) If she wins the nomination and loses to McCain, she can still claim a spot in history as the first female presidential candidate.

Either way, to her it's a win.

Justin   June 2nd, 2008 9:25 am ET

The popular vote lead claim is a lie. It doesn't count the votes in caucus states 95% of which Obama won.

Gabrielle, Lancaster SC   June 2nd, 2008 9:25 am ET

This entire situation is quite unfair and ridiculous. I imagine if Sen. Obama were the one who was behind and asking for Florida and Michigan to count there would be a lot more backlash for him. People would be telling him to go home and learn how to follow the rules or learn how the system works. Critics would say that he is showing his inexperience by trying to change the rules.

But when Senator Clinton does it she is a fighter. She is a martyr. A hero...

Interesting, don't you think?

Dave   June 2nd, 2008 9:25 am ET

She just needs to go away and stop being such a spoiled brat....

She is playing this like the most spoiled child I've ever seen!

Lie, Cheat and Steal.... and that doesn't work, try to whine and cry your way to victory!

Yeah, that's EXACTLY the kind of person I want leading our country!

Mary IN AL   June 2nd, 2008 9:25 am ET

I thought there was a truth in advertising law? How can the media allow false advertising? Her statements are another conjured up blatant Lie. No she has not won the popular vote–because there is no viable metric to determine a popular vote due to the large number of caucus states within the democratic party. She is disenfranchising millions of voters who voted for Senator Obama. The superdelegates should honor the will of the peiole and the people have spoken by giving Senator Obama the majority of delegates!

Fay Tx   June 2nd, 2008 9:24 am ET

Hillary please tell the truth for the sake of honesty , Bill stated you are the only candiate ever to receive (17 mil +) popular votes and your latest TV Ad claims you beating Barack Obama in the popular vote ..... I suppose it depends on how you calulate for instant (Obama leads Clinton 17,928,000 to 17,843,000 includes caucuses ) depends on the messenger

DKR in Canada   June 2nd, 2008 9:24 am ET

Clinton, Clinton, Clinton. CNN desperately tries to keep this race going so that their awesome political team has something to do this summer.

The Clinton Spin Network should go back to reporting news.

Obama's supporter   June 2nd, 2008 9:24 am ET

Hillary abuses math! She only counts what help her.
Obama leads in EVERYTHING: superdelegates, pledged delegates, won states, and popular votes. He leads her 55,000 votes.

It is over sweetie

Miche   June 2nd, 2008 9:23 am ET

Unite the republican party by nominating Hillary Clinton

Matt in Cleveland   June 2nd, 2008 9:23 am ET

how can she keep saying this when it is technically not true?

Scott Glenn in Wa   June 2nd, 2008 9:23 am ET

She sure is a fighter.
Campaining , what was it 6 days on the island to get her 68% win? Yep she fought real hard and less than 30% of the voters turned out.........
......good thing she got those votes to add to her popular vote arguement
......to bad Puerto Rico does not count in the general
......fighting on all the same.........
......Money well spent I'm sure

Obama!

Matt   June 2nd, 2008 9:23 am ET

I agree. The ad is blatantly false. Clinton's calculation is not "debatable", it is blatantly false. False advertising, period.

Scott Glenn in Wa   June 2nd, 2008 9:22 am ET

She sure is a fighter.
Campaining , what was it 6 days on the island to get her 68% win? Yep she fought real hard and less than 30% of the voters turned out.........
......good thing she got those votes to add to her popular vote arguement
......to bad Puerto Rico does not count in the general
......fighting on all the same.........

Obama!

tj in fla   June 2nd, 2008 9:22 am ET

It seems odd that CNN is the only major media that relentlessly pushes this popular vote arguement. Trying to create drama, where none exists? This is over.

SOCORRO   June 2nd, 2008 9:22 am ET

Hillary, you have won the popular vote and in democratic country that 's what count, the old guard in democratic party can not handle a women been president they denined you all support even though you have won their state, why not be an INDEPENDENT candidate. And i am 100% you will win you dont need them, and you will be the best PRESIDENT .
GO HILLARY INDEPENDENT 08

jes   June 2nd, 2008 9:22 am ET

Go Hillary-Take it to the limit.!! The treatment you received from the Demo. party & the media was shameful. I don't know why so many members of the press did not wear buttons saying "I get to kiss Obama's butt on CNN TV" Take the knives out of your back & head for Denver.

Char   June 2nd, 2008 9:22 am ET

She's an Angry, Bitter, and Mean Woman.
Your Time is Up. Go Away. and Keep a Close EYE on Bill

Peter   June 2nd, 2008 9:22 am ET

how does she have the popular vote? she doesn't want to include caucuses except for nevada which she WON and puerto rico can't vote in real election!

Dan, Mpls, MN   June 2nd, 2008 9:21 am ET

Hillary is teaching our young kids something very important. That cheating is OK.

Annette   June 2nd, 2008 9:21 am ET

Delegates dominate the contest.

TGO   June 2nd, 2008 9:21 am ET

Personaly, I think Hillary is way out of line....She has the makings of a poor loser....
She needs to just give it up and let the process work... Its, not doubt, going to be Obama running against McCain.

Lee W   June 2nd, 2008 9:20 am ET

Hillary has my patience (at great effort) until Obama reaches the required number of delegates. After that, he needs to be able to take on the big fight (vs. the Republicans) without the distraction of Hillary. So I'm anxiously waiting to see if Hillary will prove she's for herself first or the party first. Only days now until we know.

Peridot, Atlanta   June 2nd, 2008 9:20 am ET

Oh God, Please someone.. tell her it's OVER.

Rudy NYC   June 2nd, 2008 9:20 am ET

Does anyone remember that Hillary Clinton finished, what, 3rd in Iowa?

Does anyone remember when Hillary started to actually win states? It was after McCain was running unopposed and was the presumptive nominee. Operation Chaos had kicked into full gear, people.

Clinton's campaign was an organizational disaster, that's a fact not a rant. The people in her campaign were a major factor in not counting the votes in MI and FL in the first place.

Lee W   June 2nd, 2008 9:20 am ET

Hillary has my patience (at great effort) until Obama reaches the required number of delegates. After that, he needs to be able to take on the big fight (vs. the Republicans) without the distraction of Hillary. So I'm anxiously waiting to see if Hillary will prove she's for herself first or the party first. Only days now until we know.

andy   June 2nd, 2008 9:20 am ET

so when you don't count the caucuses in iowa, maine, washington and nevada – or the primaries in idaho and nebraska – and you count the vote in michigan (which the dnc has refused to do) – but if you do count the michigan vote you refuse to give obama a single vote from the state...then congratulations hillary you're the popular vote winner. well done.

Brian   June 2nd, 2008 9:20 am ET

it is time for Hillary to put the Party over her own political ambition and concentrate on helping Barack defeat McCain. That is her cause now.

wwf   June 2nd, 2008 9:19 am ET

It all depends on whos math one uses. Clinton's or the media. Huuummmm. Tough choice. Forgot, it is the number of delegates at picks the winners.

Brian, NJ   June 2nd, 2008 9:19 am ET

She lost me completely when she claimed the popular vote lead without giving Obama anything from Michigan. Now we know why she didn't take her name off the ballot when the other 7 or so candidates did, so she could make this slimey claim.

What do you expect from someone who stayed married to Mr. It depends what your definition of "is" is...

Chris Banner   June 2nd, 2008 9:19 am ET

I would've hoped that Clinton would cease these vicious attacks and unnecessary claims as we all know she is trailing Obama in every position (delegates and superdelegates)
I also thought she'd come back to her senses and stop dividing the democratic party after the saturday convention.
We hope to heal the wounds within the party and win the general election. With the help of CLinton (if she dropped out tomorrow after all the primaries are over which would be greatly appreciated) , i am sure that it would be possible.
Stop being selfish and think about americans who don`t want to suffer another for years of disaster (McCain-Bush)
Please stop Hillary, for the sake of our children

TESAP   June 2nd, 2008 9:19 am ET

SAD....... PEOPLE THIS IS OVER.........WAKE UP

nate   June 2nd, 2008 9:19 am ET

Don Quixote? Try Machiavelli.

Dan (TX)   June 2nd, 2008 9:18 am ET

Don't bother including the votes of US territories such as Guam and Puerto Rico – they can't vote for President in November. Somebody please call her out on this.

FreshAir   June 2nd, 2008 9:18 am ET

burn baby burn.

so now she's running against Ralph Nader? for most hated?

TESAP   June 2nd, 2008 9:18 am ET

SAD WOMAN I am not sure why, and i do not understand how so many women think this is sexism... I mean come on, HC and the states broke the rules, she said she would abide by the decision made by the rules committee, and now she is back peddling..... WHAT MORE DOES HC SUPPORTERS WANT SHE LOST FAIR AND SQUARE............

POST THIS CNN

Beth - Florida   June 2nd, 2008 9:18 am ET

Check this out NObama people:

He initially blew off Michigan and Florida (only changed his mind after it couldn't hurt his chances). Why bother with Puerto Rico, they dont vote in Nov, (guess what – millions of latinos will remember this one). Kentucky, West Virginia, Ohio, Indiana, Pennsylvania, Missouri, Tennesee (all states with redneck whites so concede them also). Oh Yeah 17 plus million Hillary voters, who Obama supporters think we should go home and stop crying...

But the great NObama is not divisive. Guess what people, don't come back crying in November. You had it your way so there is nobody els e to blame when you loose. Will see if NObama tries to stop the Race riots and civil disorder that will erupt after McCain wins.

You can avoid most of this by offering Hillary the VP. We all know that Michelle and millions of NObama supporters like her wont let you do it. If you do (very unlikely) i hope she says NO. I say let you guys sink alone.

Bart in SC   June 2nd, 2008 9:18 am ET

Hillary Clinton is a very smart and strong woman that is fighting for what she believes is best for her. If she were a man in the same situation people would not be calling her pathetic but aggressive and willing to fight for what he believes in, etc. I hope that America will wake up and realize that it has serious issues with racism and sexism.

I wish her all the best. And as she has said she will be fine when this primary season is over because she has the love and support of her family and friends. I just hope America is .......

The math looks bad for her but never count her out.

Chris Banner   June 2nd, 2008 9:18 am ET

I would've hoped that Clinton would cease these vicious attacks and unnecessary claims as we all know she is trailing Obama in every position (delegates and superdelegates)
I also thought she'd come back to her senses and stop dividing the democratic party after the saturday convention.
We hope to heal the wounds within the party and win the general election. With the help of CLinton (if she dropped out tomorrow after all the primaries are over which would be greatly appreciated) , i am sure that it would be possible.
Stop being selfish and think about americans who don`t want to suffer another for years of disaster (McCain-Bush)
Please stop Hillary, for the sake of our children

wwf   June 2nd, 2008 9:18 am ET

All depends on whose math you use. Clinton's or the media.

ALECO1 -----NOKOMIS,FL   June 2nd, 2008 9:18 am ET

HILLARY SAYS ONLY SHE CAN BEAT McCAIN IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. SHE HAS AT LEAST ONE MAJOR PROBLEM--SHE CAN'T RAISE THE MONEY THATS NEEDED TO WAGE THAT BATTLE. SHE'S ALREADY IN DEBT TO THE TUNE OF TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS AND HER BACKERS ARE NOT WILLING TO DONATE THE MONEY SHE WILL NEED..
OBAMA WILL BE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT.

Joshua   June 2nd, 2008 9:18 am ET

Too bad the DNC doesn't determine a winner by the popular vote.

mg   June 2nd, 2008 9:18 am ET

Good Lord, she is consummate politician. She says whatever suits her personal needs all the time – be it about votes, Iraq, her husband’s peccadilloes, or whatever. Who is his (or even her) mind will elect this creature as a President? I hope she never come back to ask decent people to even hear her name.

Proud1of 26% in WV   June 2nd, 2008 9:18 am ET

The banners should say every" vote counts except".How can you count the votes from Flordia and give her 350,000 to 0 in Flordia?How can you not count the caucus votes?Her math says 2+2=5 and some numbers dont count at all.The rules state delegates are what count and the fact remains that Obama only needs less than 50.She will need practically all of the superdelegates.Not going to happen.

Jacqueline Anderson   June 2nd, 2008 9:17 am ET

Clinton clearly has no intention of supporting Barack Obama because SHE is a BITTER LOSER. Her ad is a lie, and she clearly plans to try to pull Barack down into her mudhole. Clinton had better be careful if she plans to continue to drag down the Democratic party'. A lot of us are looking at this carefully, and we are not taking her actions lightly
Had she been a real Democrat, she would have at least support the Democratic party, but now she will NEVER be president given her devicise nature.

obama =supporter==ARKANSAS   June 2nd, 2008 9:17 am ET

another one of her lies.
god i thought she would grow up by now,
also i really thought she was more concerned for the party, seems she only want to destroy it.if she can't win, she intend to take obama and the party down with her
if this happens i hope her political career will end here and now forever. obama at ever event has praise for her why she is trying to destroy him.

god bless all of us

please post this

Cesar in FL   June 2nd, 2008 9:17 am ET

I guess numbers can be spin any way that makes it work in your advantage. She should be forced to make a full statement, i.e. "I am leading in the Popular Vote, if you don't count X, Y, Z, or the Caucus States".
If she's going to make such a claim, SHE should say how she comes up with the numbers.

Olivia   June 2nd, 2008 9:17 am ET

New msg...the last lengthy one was wiped out.

Hillary should run again in 2012 as an independent if unsuccessful.
Sen. Wexler said today on tv that Obama was very generous in his concessions at the DNC meeting on sat. THAT...made my blood boil.
She should turn down the vp slot if offered. Let Obama clean up his self-inflicted radical mess. Let him find his own way of attracting the people who won't vote for him now.....that way he may turn out to be a half decent president if McCain doesn't whip his butt first.

Annette   June 2nd, 2008 9:17 am ET

The popular vote is not a factor in either contest and not a absolute indicator, for example in Puerto Rico, Hillary was expecting more people to come out to vote but they didn't. Hillary campaigned hard their, I was expecting more people to show at the polls with the support she received there.

The story should read: I fought hard and tough, but not smart enough. I will join the rest of the democrats to help win in November.

Will   June 2nd, 2008 9:16 am ET

Hillary sure knows how to ignore all those caucus states. If you start counting those and/or give Obama more than 0 votes for Michigan, it easily puts him in the lead.

jenkins   June 2nd, 2008 9:16 am ET

If the delegates from MI and Florida counts then so do the votes. Hillary does have the popular vote, there can be no doubt.

TESAP   June 2nd, 2008 9:16 am ET

I am not sure why, and i do not understand how so many women think this is sexism... I mean come on, HC and the states broke the rules, she said she would abide by the decision made by the rules committee, and now she is back peddling..... WHAT MORE DOES HC SUPPORTERS WANT SHE LOST FAIR AND SQUARE............

POST THIS CNN

Sarah Collins   June 2nd, 2008 9:16 am ET

Hillary cannot win and she knows it. She is just trying to sabotage Obama so she can run again in 2012. She is destroying the party. Please Hillary drop out now!

TESAP   June 2nd, 2008 9:16 am ET

I am not sure why, and i do not understand how so many women think this is sexism... I mean come on, HC and the states broke the rules, she said she would abide by the decision made by the rules committee, and now she is back peddling..... WHAT MORE DOES HC SUPPORTERS WANT SHE LOST FAIR AND SQUARE............

POST THIS CNN

Jill American   June 2nd, 2008 9:16 am ET

What's pathetic is everyone calling for Hillary to quit when Obama hasn't reached the needed total and until he does he has NOT won anything!
What's pathetic is the people in Florida that didn't go and vote 'because they thought it wasn't going to count'. You NEVER NOT vote. A real pattern in Florida ... not counting votes.
What's pathetic is the Iowa caucus. Not being able to vote who you want to vote for if there isn't a certain percentage .. then THEY annoint the leader as being the one to run for President. Iowa picked Kerry when they had John Edwards and Dick Gephardt to choose instead. And it's done in the open ... no pressure there.
What's pathetic is the young people now being interested. Those old enough to vote the last time who didn't – dead Americans weren't enought to get you motivated? Stealing elections wasn't enough to get you out to vote?
What's pathetic is the tearing down of Hillary (flicking her off the shoulder, comments on her suits and her laugh), oh, forgot, that's what we do to strong women in this country.
Can't wait for the election ... Florida then Ohio .. which pathetic state will it be this time?

Noah   June 2nd, 2008 9:16 am ET

I'm an Edwards supporter that WILL vote for Obama or Clinton. Too bad others in my party are too blind to end this division.

Oh well I guess McCain won't be THAT bad. I won't vote for him but the longer this goes on the more likely this becomes

DEMS UNITE NOW!!!!!!!!!

Gary N.   June 2nd, 2008 9:16 am ET

Gotta like the slogan of Clinton and her supporters "Count every vote (unless you participated in a caucus won by Obama, then your vote doesn't count)"

Jim in Virginia   June 2nd, 2008 9:16 am ET

So she wins an election in a place where the voters can't vote in the general election and we are supposed t o be impressed? She might as well win elections in Albania and Liberia and pronounce herself President! I used to like Sen. Clinton and would have voted for her but now, with her incredibly bad math skills and lack of basic high school knowledge of the way government works (except that politicans don't recognize the truth – that, she;s got down pat), I think it would be dangerous to elect her. SHe lives in a fantasy world of her own making. We need a president who lives in the real world.

Doc   June 2nd, 2008 9:15 am ET

You know I fault her and half of the 17Mil who seems to still push her on. Okay maybe i shouldn't yet, since technically it's not over. But i don't believe one bit that she is going to get out after its all over. I'm sure she'll stay in because she still thinks she has a leg to stand on. What a way to make history??? So here we are and from where i sit it looks as if the superdels need to make there stand to put OB1 over the top where will prolly be 30 or so by the end of Tuesday night. A little upsetting that Hillary would continue to mislead (basically lie) about the truth. The truth based on the party's rules and regulations why participate if you are just going to lead people down murky waters, political savvinees, "silly seasons" i mean come on. The guy from msnbc Oblemann had it down pack we cannot forgive her for what she's done and probably will done this summer.

Atlanta Obamacrat   June 2nd, 2008 9:15 am ET

Could someone please explain to me just why she doesn't want the caucus votes to count. After all, she says "every vote counts." I just find it a bit of a contradiction.

Brett from Austin, TX   June 2nd, 2008 9:15 am ET

CORRECTION: With Mr. Obama garnering the "Uncommitted" Michigan votes, Mrs. Clinton is actually +60,000 votes. Undoubtedly, Hillary Clinton can claim the popular vote UNDISPUTEDLY.

mdg   June 2nd, 2008 9:15 am ET

Who believes not one person in Detroit, Michigan voted for Obama?

THAT'S the fairy tale the former first lady wants you to believe!

Give
Me
A
Break!

scdemocrat   June 2nd, 2008 9:15 am ET

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ is she still in the race? YOU ARE NOT WINNING THE POPULAR VOTE UNLESS YOU DISENFRANCHISE THE CAUCUS STATES AND GIVE OBAMA ZERO VOTES IN MI. Do you think that is an honest argument? This game is over and Senator Clinton LOST. It was not stolen from her, it is not because she is a woman, it is because she ran an utterly incompetent campaign and the people preffer Senator Obama. Let's unite behind OUR candidate, Senator Obama and make sure we don't have another four years of Bush with McSame.

Gary Chandler in Canada   June 2nd, 2008 9:15 am ET

June 2nd, 2008 9:05 am ET
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Clinton, who Obama should offer the Health Ministry Portfolio to, is not ahead in the Popular Vote, when Fair Reflection is used as a criteria. It is totally Dishonest and Inaccurate for her to claim a 1/2 million lead.
When is she going to stop drinking the soup that Wolfson and Ickes feed her? Check out the charts at the ‘real clear politics’ web site!
Even if you use the FALSE measuring stick the Clinton Camp foists on you, 0% for Obama in MI and dismissing, disenfranchising, 4 whole States that Obama won, the biggest False reflection she could claim is 300,000, NOT 1/2 million. Google ‘real clear politics’
When you *add a FAIR allocation for Obama in MI, *add the estimates of the 4 states that don’t reveal PV, *add the support for Obama in the ‘missing’ 17% out of Fla (Clinton 49.8% Obama 33%, ??? 17%), and *add the share of the voters that stayed home in FLA and MI, Obama’s PV lead is over 100,000, to which SD and MO will be *added.

When Ickes can spend all day Saturday, without challenge, pulling the wool over your eyes with a fairy tale 73 delegate count in MI, it only encourages him to make false claims of a 1/2 million lead in PV.
(73 divided by 128 is 57%. Clinton did NOT get 57% in Mi! Her 55% times 128 is 70! What calculator did Ickes use to get 73 instead of the actual 70? By the way, Obama had to pay a filing fee to remove his name, Clinton avoided that cost!)

Someone has to explain to her that Obama’s young, as well as independent, supporters will no longer trust his message if he chooses a VP candidate to ‘expedient’ reasons. They would accept Clinton in as Health Minister.

GDC   June 2nd, 2008 9:14 am ET

Ha, HRC wasn't a major major in school, that's for sure.

Do give her the lead in the popular vote you have to give her 328,000 votes for the Michigan primary election, while giving Obama. A ballet that Obama was not even on, and could not have garnered any votes. This is also a state (Michigan) which the last polls publicly taken have Mr. Obama doing marginally better in than Mrs. Clinton.

It's like using a magic 8 ball for the math.

The number which she's reaching for her popular vote counts also ignore the caucuses of Iowa, Nevada, Maine and Washington (Washington alone had a record quarter-million people turned out to participate)(3 out of 4, which Obama won by double digit victories). Didn't Clinton say every vote should could count, our under her breath did she say except caucus voters right after that?

The magic 8 ball math is coming up all HRC right now. Lets turn it over one more time.....

Finally, back to Michigan, though small and difficult to gauge, no one has explored the impact of the roughly 60,000 (these numbers vary slightly, + and -, from some articles) voters who crossed over in Michigan to vote Republican; partially in response to the push by liberal bloggers trying to further the Republican bloodletting by encouraging Democrats to vote for Mitt Romney. This is something that was covered in a few articles at the time of the primary, but got minor time in the public eye because of the bigger hype/rating machine of the suppressed delegates by the DNC.

Well, time to get to work.....unless, the magic 8 ball math tells me I've already hit 8 hours for the day...because really, the magic 8 ball math is fact. Just ask the HRC supporters.

True Democrat   June 2nd, 2008 9:14 am ET

The point is that one cannot count Michigan's uncommited voters all for Obama as Edwards and the others were still in the race at that time.
Sure, they endorsed Obama, but that doesn't mean the people who voted them did as well at that time.
At best, with Michigan's uncommited votes should only partially add to Obama's popular vote in which case the two of them are tied.

What's interesting though is that in the current count, caucus states ARE included in the popular vote, and Clinton still leads.

brian near toronto   June 2nd, 2008 9:14 am ET

Good grief. With every hour, she increasingly reveals herself as not only disingenuous, but dishonest.

Superdels, grab the hook and haul this false actor (hypocrite) off the stage.

Brett from Austin, TX   June 2nd, 2008 9:14 am ET

Obama supporters can say whatever they want. They can denigrate Mrs. Clinton with their incindiary, divisive statements. Bottom line: Mrs. Clinton's supporters have been following her political career since the 1990's and they will NEVER – and I mean never – stop supporting her.

So the more you bash our candidate, the slimmer Mr. Obama's chances get of winning in November.

Hillary Clinton FOREVER.

Jean - a hillary supporter   June 2nd, 2008 9:14 am ET

I feel that Hillary needs to finish the primaries and let all the people who want to vote for the first viable female candidate VOTE. No matter who wins WHAT A TURNOUT OF DEMOCRATES and WHAT ELECTION CONTEST EXCITEMENT. I am a Hillary fan and this is the most involvement I have had in a political race in my 50 years of voting.

YOU GO GIRL.

Doc   June 2nd, 2008 9:14 am ET

You know I fault her and half of the 17Mil who seems to still push her on. Okay maybe i shouldn't yet, since technically it's not over. But i don't believe one bit that she is going to get out after its all over. I'm sure she'll stay in because she still thinks she has a leg to stand on. What a way to make history??? So here we are and from where i sit it looks as if the superdels need to make there stand to put OB1 over the top where will prolly be 30 or so by the end of Tuesday night. A little upsetting that Hillary would continue to mislead (basically lie) about the truth. The truth based on the party's rules and regulations why participate if you are just going to lead people down murky waters, political savvinees, "silly seasons" i mean come on. The guy from msnbc Oblemann had it down pack we cannot forgive her for what she's done and probably will done this summer.

Caucus State Inhabitant   June 2nd, 2008 9:14 am ET

Hillary is really infuriating those of us who live in caucus states! We have the right...as states...to choose the manner in which we decide the nominee–and many states choose caucus. The popular vote, therefore, is no valid measure of our nation's choices. If it were, we'd be talking about President Gore right now.

If the rules need to be changed, let's vote on it–or take caucuses on it–like Americans. This changing of the rules whenever it suits the Clinton machine is unpatriotic and damaging to the image of our country abroad.

what a liar   June 2nd, 2008 9:13 am ET

Now this getting way to far....

Hillary should stop trying to distort the reality:

- She looses in pledge delegates
- She looses in super delegates
- AND YES she is loosing in the popular vote.

Her popular vote argument is totally dishonnest because it does not count obama's fair and square wins in the caucuses, and does not take into consideration the delegates he got from michigan although it is proven that the " uncommitted" vote where for him and Edouard

She is definitly very selfcentered and only cares about herself.
She definitly wants to adventage McCain so she can run again in 2012.

How disgusting. speechless.

fred   June 2nd, 2008 9:13 am ET

Hillary has right to bring this matter until Denver because She won
the bigand swing states neeeded by candidate to win the presidency.
Obama has many skeleton in the closet which will make Mccain the winner against Obama.

trellskig   June 2nd, 2008 9:13 am ET

And she's still not satisfied with how MI and Fl have been seated. They need to end this soon!

to Denver   June 2nd, 2008 9:12 am ET

Hillary was never the annioted nominee, the media and their spin cycle was at work,wanting people to think that, just like all the flap at ob church, just a put on.just like vanity fair and their Bill Clinton article, wanting Hillary supporters to think bad about him with more lies ,so we will turn to ob, that will never happen! this election was fixed from day one. obama can lie till he is blue in the face about the Clintons, we will not fall in line with a anti-American couple in the white house
the dem party =liars-cheaters and thieves,

Julie   June 2nd, 2008 9:12 am ET

If Obama is the Democratic nominee, say hello to another 4+ years of McSame.

I am another Hillary voter who will never cast my vote for Obama. His arrogance and lack of actual words behind his cult-like chants make me fearful of him being elected, and I'd choose McCain first.

TV   June 2nd, 2008 9:12 am ET

hillary is full of it. To " count all votes and every vote should count" Michigan Obama supporters would need to be counted and they were NOT able to vote for him. To claim a lead and include a state where your opponent was not on the ballot is vile and dispicable. If the roles were reversed her supporters would be saying the same thing.

JO   June 2nd, 2008 9:12 am ET

She may campaign for Obama but that does not mean that we will
vote for him.....GOOD LUCK.

Jim from Montana   June 2nd, 2008 9:12 am ET

As a Hillary supporter, you mean to tell me that none of these uncommitted voters voted for Obama in the Michigan primary? I won't believe that for a second. We're democrat; we're supposed to be fair.

Hillary FOR LIFE   June 2nd, 2008 9:11 am ET

OK, even Hillary for Life feels different on this one - you cannot count Michigan unless uncommitted delegates go to Obama. In that case, he STILL leads the pop vote, and will at the end. I don't know what she's doing/trying to do in these last couple of days. It is only dividing the party. Forever!!!!

Tony   June 2nd, 2008 9:11 am ET

GO HILLARY!

TELL THE SUPERDELEGATES, THE DNC, OBAMA, AND THE "REV.'S", "PASTORS", "FATHERS" TO STICK IT!

I WON'T BE VOTING AT ALL THIS ELECTION SHOULD OBAMA BE THE NOMINEE.

THE SUPREME COURT SELECTED BUSH IN 2000 AND NOW THE DNC AND THE SUPERDELEGATES ARE SELECTING THE NOMINEE IN 2008.

AS MUCH AS IT MAKES ME SICK TO MY STOMACH AND MY SKIN CRAWL TO THINK WE MAY HAVE MCBUSH IN FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, IT IS OBVIOUS THAT THE DEMOCRATS STILL HAVE NOT LEARNED ANYTHING!

SO BE IT! I HOPE THEY GET USED TO SAYING PRESIDENT MCCAIN.

jenny from Idaho   June 2nd, 2008 9:11 am ET

I understand that she has spends millions of dollars and really really really wants to be president, but at what cost?

ANN AGNES   June 2nd, 2008 9:11 am ET

To count only the votes cast in determining who has the most votes in the primary ignores those states who conduct caucuses. The people who expressed their choice through the process of their states caucuses also have a right to be "counted."

To discount or ignore the results of states who conducted caucuses - is to ignore the preferences of those people. That's why the common ground is the count of delegates.

Laura   June 2nd, 2008 9:11 am ET

Hillary should bow out gracefully, this has dragged on too long and each battle she has waged, she has lost. I do admire her as being the 1st woman presidential candidate, it's hard to accept defeat when she thought she had this nomination but she didnt plan for the impossible. I dont believe she is the better candidate because of the way she has ran her campaign, her reaction to the unexpected and her FINANCIAL ISSUES. No one is talking about her outstanding debts, how can she balance the budget and pick the right cabinet members.....something to think about.

Scott, Charlotte   June 2nd, 2008 9:11 am ET

Sad for Hillary. Living in a fantasy world.

mzgemini   June 2nd, 2008 9:10 am ET

I find it difficult to believe that Hillary will ever line up to support Barack even after he is declared the nominee and all of her dubious options are exercised. She is so deep in denial and so bent on being the first woman president and all the other firsts that would come along with that, I cannot imagine her tune changing to all of a sudden support for someone she is seeking to destroy. Any show of support, if at all, will be fake and she will always be willing him to lose so that she can come back and say I told you so. What a selfish and arrogant individual.

Doc Sinn   June 2nd, 2008 9:10 am ET

HRC is really starting to make Father Pfleger look like Nostradamus.

jfs Memhis, Tn   June 2nd, 2008 9:10 am ET

This is LINGERING and causing more division. STAYING IN DOES NOT ACCOMPLSH what it is being disguised to do. THE CLINTON'S DO NOT WANT TO CONCECDE THE POWER THAT THEY ONCE HAD IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. Unfortunately many Clinton supporters have been used by these folks. They have been given false hopes and kept pumped up which has resulted in a serious division. The Democratic Party Leadership sees what is going on...we do not. The Clintons are not helping this parties goals in Nov. They have become OBSTICLES.

DD   June 2nd, 2008 9:09 am ET

Yes, She won the popular vote!

Does that mean she win? Yes. Every vote counts.

Think about: When you go to vote, you certainly think your vote is for sure counted. Otherwise why bother?

Milton, Harrisburg, PA   June 2nd, 2008 9:09 am ET

Hillary is a tad deluded again and must be using some sort of "new math" to calculate her popular vote lead. If you include Florida, which the DNC now accepts and exclude Michigan, which the DNC now rejects AND include caucus state votes-which for some reason Hillary likes to disenfranchise in her calculations through a fine gesture of hypocrisy, then Obama comes out a head of Hillary by 183,000 votes. To claim that she has the popular vote is misleading at best and a lie at worst. Given the likelihood of Obama winning the last remaining contests, Hillary simply won't have the most popular votes. Saying so doesn't make it true–sort of like saying you will be the next Democratic Nominee for President of the United States.

Lying with statistics is an old art form. Harold needs to do it better.

JJ   June 2nd, 2008 9:09 am ET

I just wish the supers will hurry up and end this thing by Wednesday. Everyone is waiting for the last primaries so hopefully we can get this wrapped up so that everyone will start supporting Obama as the nominee.

Kelly, PA   June 2nd, 2008 9:09 am ET

Stretching the truth, spinning the story, and changing the rules has characterized her campaign from the beginning. This ad doesn't surprise me. Hopefully, people are smart enough to resist being manipulated by propaganda. We had enough of that with Bush. Haven't we?

Albuquerque   June 2nd, 2008 9:09 am ET

All right Hillary PRESS ON! All the Nobama supporters would love for you to roll over and let him proceed on. I say Don't give up the Ship!
Besides how can you trust a man that spends 20 years in a church and all of a sudden lets it go due to "differences"
What other views of his Change campaign will he "change" if he gets into office...God forbid...

Hillary 08
NOBAMA NOWAY

IloveVA   June 2nd, 2008 9:09 am ET

The hostility coming from Clinton and her camp is really ugly.

This whole Michigan and Florida thing is crazy. If she thought they should be counted she should have said so from the start but she thought she would walk through the nomination so she paid it no attention. NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN ITS A VOTER'S RIGHTS ISSUE? No its a last grab for power issue and we see through it!

If clinton is anywhere on the ticket, I will not vote.

Obama/Albright '08

Elizabeth (Florida)   June 2nd, 2008 9:09 am ET

After listening to Senator Clinton after the DNC meeting, though a Senator Clinton supporter, I'm wondering now if this pressing to go on is all about Senator Clinton versus the voters in Florida and Michigan. I believe that unless Senator Clinton alters her position, there will be no room on Senator Obama's ticket for her and no chance for her to run in the future. Now, Senator Clinton should begin her graceful departure.

mary   June 2nd, 2008 9:08 am ET

Hillary clinton got robbed of her FL delegates. he will never be the clear winner. there is a cloud over this nomination process and HRC supporters will decide where to go next...mant will not to Obama.

hillaryisourchoice.com

chicago chris   June 2nd, 2008 9:08 am ET

Congrats to Obama for picking up 2 more superdelegates on Monday morning. Something CNN no longer announces...

obamamama   June 2nd, 2008 9:08 am ET

I have wondered why most of the moderated post are pro obama,that is till I started posting.there must be a lot of pro Hillary postings that have not shown up here.My siblings and our family (12 of us) will be voting McCain in November.please join us fellow democrats.

Rob   June 2nd, 2008 9:08 am ET

Hillary, You can take my vote out of the count too because I am a lazy white American with two masters degrees. This adds one more to your imaginary popular vote lead.

kj - Independent   June 2nd, 2008 9:08 am ET

Enough already Sen. Clinton! You are like a sore that won't go away to the American people. We all understand you are the first woman to really have a shot at the white house but at what cost now. You seem willing to divide the Dems thus supporting another puppet Bush administration. Everyone would like a qualified female President for the US in the future, but it will not be you this year. GET OVER IT and LET THE HEALING BEGIN!!! This goes to the fanatic Hilary supporters also.

Spirit of America   June 2nd, 2008 9:08 am ET

Democratic Party leaders have officially declared voters in Michigan and Florida to be only 50% citizens. That declaration will haunt them in the general election, one which only Clinton can win.

Frank   June 2nd, 2008 9:08 am ET

Her popular vote claim is very flawed. She's leaving out caucuses in Iowa, Nevada, and two other states who held they selections legally, and counting full votes in Florida and Michigan, who voted illegally. She's also giving Obama no votes in Michigan, even though the majority of "Uncommitted" were for Obama.

teresa from Canada   June 2nd, 2008 9:08 am ET

You think this info is false? – wait until November – Obama will NOT beat McCain. Obama is already struggling in the polls against McCain and the republican machine hasn't even started to fight yet!

Get ready America you are setting yourselves up for at least 4 more years with a Republican government and you deserve it!
Hillary would have kicked McCain's butt but Obama will lose miserably – and the polls all show that she would have a better chance but these ridiculous SUPER DELEGATES – won't look at the facts – after this fiasco is over and Obama loses any super delegate that voted for Obama and cost Hillary the election should be STRIPPED of their title.

mj - Florida   June 2nd, 2008 9:07 am ET

oh my god! she's like Bush, she is either completely delusional or she surrounds herself with people who only tell positive falsehoods.

Gary Bremerton   June 2nd, 2008 9:07 am ET

well folks it ain't over till the clinton has the nomination or is in jail for having the other candidate axed. seriously does anyone out there think that the clintons will stop at nothing to get the nomination. if she looses it she will loose it big time and the secret service better be there to stop her cause nothing else will.

slc in ny   June 2nd, 2008 9:07 am ET

Senator Clinton needs to quantify how she is coming up with her numbers first of all. Rasmussen shows about six different ways to come up with the total vote. Some ways Obama wins, some ways Clinton wins. Remember he was not on the Michigan ballot.

She further states that people wanted her to come out since Iowa and you know, if she loses this primary election, then maybe she should have listened and saved herself some of those millions and the democratic party all of this turmoil and saved her "NAME. " The number of new persons registered still could have been accomplished.

Now, I do feel that she thinks that she was entitled to the nomination and she thought she was to step into it. I feel sorry for the Clintons and how they have stooped so low to try to win the presidency for Senator Clinton. The name will carry a negative connotation in the minds of many.

She has truly been a thorn in the flesh which tends to make the person with the thorn stronger and humble, especially when they are leaning on Jesus. Of all the things that Rev. Wright has said, many did not pick up on the paraphrased statement, if God wants Senator Obama to win, he will win.

OBAMA to the White House, Dissappointed in the Clintons.

Dave   June 2nd, 2008 9:06 am ET

Senator Clinton is toast and she has managed to enrage every scorned woman over the age of thirty in the last days of her campaign. They will most likely direct their pent up frustrations and anger at Senator Obama ensuring a victory for McCain. The Republicans are going to be handed this election by Hillary Clinton and her ongoing state of denial. Thanks Hillary.

Jeff   June 2nd, 2008 9:06 am ET

Keep going Hillary!

Do not give up!

Hillary '08.

John in PA   June 2nd, 2008 9:06 am ET

It's not right for Hillary to claim BHO would have 0 votes in MI, but it is equally unfair for BHO to claim all the uncommitted votes – there were others still in the race at the time, most notably John Edwards who would have had a large share of those votes. So, with that in mind, Hillary probably still wins the overall popular vote. That being said, the will of the people is being ignored, at least until November that is.

DWhipp, FL   June 2nd, 2008 9:05 am ET

Then why doesn't she include the caucus states? Hillary could have cared less about Florida and Michigan voters being disenfranchised – until she needed them (I live in Florida). Now she insists Florida and Michigan votes should count for her in her popular vote theory, along with Puerto Rico (who cannot vote in the general), but she discounts all of the caucus states who played by the rules?

And it would be nice if people who argue against this would actually read and familiarize themselves with the DNC rules before responding. There are legitimate, well-thought reasons for the order in which states hold primaries and the reasons for why there are penalties for violating the established rules and process.

One of the reasons primaries are spread out and not held on the same date:

"To be effective and to receive attention from candidates and the press, states must spread out the dates of their contests and restore a more deliberate pacing to the process."

This way, one candidate does not win on something ridiculous, such as name recognition when there is perhaps a better candidate that is not yet as well known.

edna   June 2nd, 2008 9:05 am ET

She's really grasping at any straws to win..Can anyone tell me why is it so hard for her to admit defeat? What's wrong with her? Her family needs to see to it that get's professional help..I personally see that she has lost it.

Dan, TX   June 2nd, 2008 9:05 am ET

Congratulations to Senator Clinton for running a strong tough campaign.

Obama supporter   June 2nd, 2008 9:04 am ET

Thats is! Lets go into more debt with an ad that will not help her.

Deb   June 2nd, 2008 9:04 am ET

Take it to floor if you have to Hillary!

We the people have spoken!

And if the Super Delegates are smart and want to win in November with their Lifelong base in place, they will listen to the Will of the people!

If the will of the people is ignored….

I will be registering as a Republican and working the phone banks and donating all my disposable income to see that a qualified candidate is elected to our Highest Office!

Hillary 08

Dean   June 2nd, 2008 9:04 am ET

Like most people, I also thought that Hillary would be the Democrat nominee. The strategy missteps by her campaign early on in the primary process along with the blind adoration of those (including the media) lured into Obama's empty rhetoric have resulted in the stars aligning in a completely different pattern form what was envisioned.

As a Republican, I was very concerned about the Republican noninee facing Clinton in a general election. But the media has come to the rescue of the Republican party by annointing Obama.

Hillary has been screwed by her own party and the media. Once again (as in 2000 and 2004) the election is there for the Democrats to lose, and Obama is the perfect candidate to do so.

Shawn, Lincoln, NE   June 2nd, 2008 9:03 am ET

Last time I checked, the states of Idaho and Nebraska were part of the 50 states but I guess Clinton's team forgot that. Our caucus for Nebraska was overwhelmingly for Obama but I also guess that is because of the liberal elites and overwhelming black population here. HA! He won because he spoke to us as Americans who have concerns about our future but are not unrealistic. We don't buy into quick fixes like gas tax holidays and promises to help make PR a state if they vote for her. We work together with our Republican brothers and sisters and do our best to figure stuff out. That is why our state is non-partisan in the legislature officially and our senate delegation is comprised of Hagel and Nelson who are very moderate. I wish more states took our realistic approach and not fall for divisive tactics and cynicism that plague Washington. Barack Obama may not be a perfect vessel but he keeps my hopes afloat on a often turbulent sea of politics and bickering.

NY Girl   June 2nd, 2008 9:03 am ET

This is truly outrageous. How can Hillary call for a rule change in the middle of the game. This is egregious. Their votes should not count, which is what both contenders agreed to. I can't wait til Obama is the nomiee.

Obama '08

jeff - Dallas   June 2nd, 2008 9:03 am ET

Hillary wants all of the votes to be counted....except the caucus votes, and the uncommitted votes in Michigan. Typical political double speak. Time for a change.

Obama 08

James NJ   June 2nd, 2008 9:02 am ET

If I were Clinton I would screw the DNC and run for president as an Independent. She would win and that would be a perfect ending to this sorry saga.

Anonymous   June 2nd, 2008 9:02 am ET

Hillary states that she believes that the current interpretation of the Michigan primary by the DNC is a "violation of the rules"! Since when did the rules mean so much to he?!?! If she were so concerned about the rules, then why count these delegates/votes at all, much less Florida's. This lady is beyond delusional. The "rules" only count when they give you an advantage? That's not the kind of person I want leading our country for the next 4 years.

Shawn, Lincoln, NE   June 2nd, 2008 9:02 am ET

Last time I checked, the states of Idaho and Nebraska were part of the 50 states but I guess Clinton's team forgot that. Our caucus for Nebraska was overwhelmingly for Obama but I also guess that is because of the liberal elites and overwhelming black population here. HA! He won because he spoke to us as Americans who have concerns about our future but are not unrealistic. We don't buy into quick fixes like gas tax holidays and promises to help make PR a state if they vote for her. We work together with our Republican brothers and sisters and do our best to figure stuff out. That is why our state is non-partisan in the legislature officially and our senate delegation is comprised of Hagel and Nelson who are very moderate. I wish more states took our realistic approach and not fall for divisive tactics and cynicism that plague Washington. Barack Obama may not be a perfect vessel but he keeps my hopes afloat on a often turbulent sea of politics and bickering.

Ngaruiya, Limuru, Kenya   June 2nd, 2008 9:01 am ET

Like President Obama once said, old Washington politics, not this time.

IloveVA   June 2nd, 2008 9:01 am ET

The hostility coming from Clinton and her camp is really ugly.

This whole Michigan and Florida thing is crazy. If she thought they should be counted she should have said so from the start but she thought she would walk through the nomination so she paid it no attention. NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN ITS A VOTER'S RIGHTS ISSUE? No its a last grab for power issue and we see through it!

If clinton is anywhere on the ticket, I will not vote.

Obama/Albright '08

John   June 2nd, 2008 9:01 am ET

Diogenes – your comment comparing Hillary with Don Quixote was brilliant.

Danny in Pittsburgh   June 2nd, 2008 9:01 am ET

It's not the kind of math I intend to teach my son...

Get the answer first...then make up the numbers that give you that answer without respect to the real factors in the equation.

But the "new math" notwithstanding...the Democratic nominee is chosen by delegates...of which, Senator Obama has more. This is the determining factor of the primary: Who has more delegates at the end of the process?

The process ends tomorrow. Who will have more delegates?

Ab-TX   June 2nd, 2008 9:01 am ET

She is acting like a 6 years old girl begging Santa for her dream doll.
She can do with all her tricks to to persuade Santa to give that doll to her."Only Good honest, never lie girls will have the doll", Santa said.
I guess, she is NOT qualified for that doll.

Julia   June 2nd, 2008 9:00 am ET

Sen. Clinton is winning the popular vote because she is the best candidate for President! The democratic process has always supported the popular vote as the best indicator of what the people want. Sen. Clinton speaks for all the people! She is a fighter, can work both sides of the aisle and bring unity to all the people, republican or democrat, in this country! She can do it! Barack could learn from her if he wasn't quite so arrogant.

Steph   June 2nd, 2008 9:00 am ET

Hillary seems to nerver ever be satisfied. Her devotion to the democratic party is showing that she is not about bringing unity but division. She's fighting against the wrong person. Obama didn't cause her to get behind in delegates. Hillary , has shown no respect towards Obama. She never congratulates Obama for winning any states yet he does congratulate her. She complains. He's not. If you notice. Obama supporters wasn't complaining at the DNC committee's.

IloveVA   June 2nd, 2008 8:59 am ET

The hostility coming from Clinton and her camp is really ugly.

This whole Michigan and Florida thing is crazy. If she thought they should be counted she should have said so from the start but she thought she would walk through the nomination so she paid it no attention. NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN ITS A VOTER'S RIGHTS ISSUE? No its a last grab for power issue and we see through it!

If clinton is anywhere on the ticket, I will not vote.

Obama/Albright '08

Steve, New York, New York   June 2nd, 2008 8:59 am ET

There goes Hillary again – she fully understands that she can "pull the wool" over the eyes of the uneducated.

Raymond Duke   June 2nd, 2008 8:59 am ET

I didn't put nothing on this comment that could be constured as racist or untruthful. If you don,t want to have nothing said negative as why hillary should have the popular vote then just solicit postive emails in favor of Obama as you are doing. It still want get him elected and all cnn is doing is losing viewers. I don't have to vote for Obama and I don't have to watch cnn except for Lou Dobbs who is fair and unbiased. So play your little game all you want to. If you are going to delete emails that are not in favor of Obama, don't waste my time. I can always watch fox news .

ck   June 2nd, 2008 8:59 am ET

So, Hillary is not ready to be a "Political Obituary" yet...

but I think the rest of the nation IS!

zero 1   June 2nd, 2008 8:59 am ET

Clinton only leads when she lies.
But oddly enough her supporters will fight for her lie as much as she will
Strange that none of them seem to care that it's ok for her to try to rob the people that voted for Obama (which apparently the true majority of Americans have.)
She says she's a fighter, We'll why does'nt she start fighting FOR her party instead of fighting with her party?
She(and Obama) both agreed to the rules of the DNC but now she's the one saying that the rules were not fair for her.
Why does'nt any of her supporters ask her this question? For that much why does'nt any one ask her that question?
No ladies and gentemen it seems t o me that it all boils down to one simple fact.
'I lost, I was'nt supposed to lose, I will not lose'.
To quote Malcom x

'By any means necessary'.

Dave, Houston, TX   June 2nd, 2008 8:58 am ET

Counting Florida and Michigan is deceptive - is that what we can expect from the Hillary Clinton Administration?

I'm a committed Democrat and have never missed a chance to vote. In the Texas primary, which WAS sanctioned by the Democratic party. I voted and spend about two hours caucusing. However, if I were living in Florida or Michigan, and I knew that the party WAS NOT sanctioning the primary, I wouldn't have wasted my time with what should have been a meaningless exercise.

What were the voters thinking? Were most of them ignorant that their primaries violated party rules and wouldn't count? Did they not notice how little time any candidate spent there? Or, were they so full of hubris, they figured they could break the rules and the party would just have to suck on it and accept their results? (That sounds like the good ol' fashioned Republican trick that Bear Stearns just pulled on us.) In either case, these voters are defective and counting them is just flat dishonest.

I think the half-vote compromise is still too generous for the two states that clearly broke the rules. Arrogantly breaking rules is so Bush Administration, and I thought that is what we are trying to end by January 20, 2009.

Marshall   June 2nd, 2008 8:58 am ET

Nut job. By the way, who is paying for all of this?

Berat, Park Ridge, IL   June 2nd, 2008 8:57 am ET

Is Hillary setting the stage for a convention walkout a la Pat Buchanan? Because if she is, she will not only lose; she'll turn John McCain into Woodrow Wilson. And that's just frightening.

Norb   June 2nd, 2008 8:57 am ET

Al Gore also had more popular votes the last election, so what's the point? Evidently, having more electoral votes, more super delegate votes, and raising more money than all of the other candidates doesn't mean anything? The so called "Clinton" machine should have learned to chainge their oil.

IloveVA   June 2nd, 2008 8:57 am ET

The hostility coming from Clinton and her camp is really ugly.

This whole Michigan and Florida thing is crazy. If she thought they should be counted she should have said so from the start but she thought she would walk through the nomination so she paid it no attention. NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN ITS A VOTER'S RIGHTS ISSUE? No its a last grab for power issue and we see through it!

If clinton is anywhere on the ticket, I will not vote.

Obama/Albright '08

Larry   June 2nd, 2008 8:57 am ET

For someone who is more than $20 million in debt, it is amazing she continues to spend like she is $20 mil to the good. Something just isn't just right here.

Her ads continues to lie or polarize. Something the Clintons know best.

One America   June 2nd, 2008 8:57 am ET

This is insane... Hillary need to give it up. Obama has strategically run a better campaign. THAT IS WHY HE IS LEADING IN THE DELEGATE COUNT AND POPULAR VOTE...

OBAMA FOR FLORIDA 08.....

IloveVA   June 2nd, 2008 8:57 am ET

The hostility coming from Clinton and her camp is really ugly.

This whole Michigan and Florida thing is crazy. If she thought they should be counted she should have said so from the start but she thought she would walk through the nomination so she paid it no attention. NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN ITS A VOTER'S RIGHTS ISSUE? No its a last grab for power issue and we see through it!

If clinton is anywhere on the ticket, I will not vote.

Obama/Albright '08

One America   June 2nd, 2008 8:57 am ET

This is insane... Hillary need to give it up. Obama has strategically run a better campaign. THAT IS WHY HE IS LEADING IN THE DELEGATE COUNT AND POPULAR VOTE...

OBAMA FOR FLORIDA 08.....

Dora   June 2nd, 2008 8:57 am ET

What a shame that none of you Obama supporters don't see that the Republicans are all geared up for your candidate. So he resigns now from that church he has been going to for twenty years and the Republicans are ready to show sermons going back for a long time and now for political reasons he resigns. Isn't Rev. Wright the godfather of his children?
You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time. by Abraham Lincoln.

JDC   June 2nd, 2008 8:56 am ET

Sorry folks (and DNC) ..... if Obama is your nominee, you just lost two votes in Virginia.

Ron L   June 2nd, 2008 8:56 am ET

Hillary has been a MAJOR disappointment and TRUELY reflects many of the BAD TRAITS of American politics. And here are CLEAR EXAMPLES:
1) She started the contest KNOWING all of the rules...NOW near the end she wants to change most of them.
2) She AGREED both verbally and written that Michigan and New Hampshire WOULD NOT count because of their violation of the rules..ONCE she saw she was in trouble politically she CHANGED HER MIND..
3) She OUTRIGHT lied about Bosnia before the OHIO promary KNOWING the story would sway 5 or 10% of the voters.
4) She personally insulted her Democratic opponent while complementing her Republican opponent when she said" Both her and McCain would bring experience to the White house and all Barack would bring is a SPEECH."
5) She promoted a GAS TAX HOLIDAY KNOWING that the short term MINOR positive effect it would have would be nothing compared to the long term devistation it would do to the Highway Construction budget. And when told NOT ONE economist supported it her answer was basically " Why should she listen to them"
6) She VOTED FOR THE WAR, without reading the FULL REPORT. You call that being ready on day one, when you don't take the time to read a report that will send 20 year old Americans into a WAR.. I THINK NOT. This was a political decision in order to look strong against the Republicans and it back fired on her!!
I could go own BUT I ASK YOU, forget about her being the first woman Presidential Candidate, forget that she is married to a once very popular and successful Ex-President, REREAD what I just wrote and tell me you would STILL support such a person..I would not..

I frankly feel the once the general election is completed the Democratic pParty needs to EX-communicate Hillary, she is a pox on the house of HONEST politics and we need to get rid of HER and EVERYONE ELSE who's EGO would allow such behavoiur.

Mike, NJ   June 2nd, 2008 8:56 am ET

This is sad....really sad.

Someone needs to put this woman out of her misery...she looks like a fool.

Chris   June 2nd, 2008 8:56 am ET

Fight on, Hillary. Fight on.

- John McCain in 2008

JonPeter, Hartford, CT   June 2nd, 2008 8:56 am ET

Clinton should continue the race until Obama has enough delegates to clinch the nomination. Then she needs to help unify the party.

Her claims to have the popular vote or how she's done since February have been much too one-sided. Obama has as many if not more of popular votes and has done equally well or better since February. What HRC fails to acknowledge is the equal if not better success of her rival.

The one thing that has turned many people off to HRC is her belief that if she is qualified, she deserves the nomination, regardless of how rivals have done. Had she treated Obama with better regard and presented her positive strengths, instead of panicing and resorting to negative tactics, attacking Obama supporters, she probably would have won the nomination.

Unfortunately she didn't, and much of her behavior the past few months counts. She can't go back, and at this point Obama has almost earned the nomination.

I'll be glad when this is over…

John   June 2nd, 2008 8:56 am ET

HRC is so delusional, she needs to be locked up. This has been over for a while. Time to join the winners Hillary, That would be Barack Obama. Sad to see she is in such a state of denial. She is throwing away her chance at having a voice in the next admin. That would be President Obama 1-20-09-1-20-13.

Adewole   June 2nd, 2008 8:55 am ET

Tim I totally agree with you,She should be sued for false advertising and misleading,What she fails to realize is that in every contest a winner must emerge which is in this case Obama,Hilary supporter should see the game is over,The only option left for her is to bow out in grace or disgrace.

Not Nilcton   June 2nd, 2008 8:55 am ET

There are over 17,000,001 reasons for Obama to be the winner–the last one being the fact that he won.

How many more pretend scenarios is CNN going to cook up to try and measure this so-called "popular vote metric" that, due to the variable nature of how the state contests were conducted, can only be estimated?

Linda   June 2nd, 2008 8:55 am ET

The Clinton's are trying to damage the Democratic party so bad she will argue that she must be on the ticket in order for the Democrats to win the election. Some Obama supporters don't want the Clinton's in office again and those who don't may turn to McCain rather than vote Clinton in office even as a VP. It seems the Democrats are bound to lose the election one way or another. Hillary needs to go! Now!

jujub   June 2nd, 2008 8:55 am ET

How can Hillary sleep at night? She can she say she wants all votes to be counted and that she is ahead in the popular vote when she excludes the uncommitted vote in Michigan and the votes cast in the caucas states. It doesn't really matter because delegates elect the presidential nominee and Barack Obama will win the nomination because he has the most delegates. He will also win the General Election because there isn't a "true" Democrat anywhere that would vote for McCain over Barack Obama, and he'll win the majority of independents and Republicans that do not want our world to continue down such a self-destructive path.

carl, Atlanta   June 2nd, 2008 8:55 am ET

Will this ridiculous woman never go away? Hillary, you ARE NOT the winner of the popular vote. In FL and MI they didn't even count all the votes, because they had aleady been sanctioned. In MI the caucus results weren't even looked at. So the votes in both states are completely invalid and not even legal. Ervery day you continue your protracted failure, John McCain becomes stonger. That's it, isn't it? You're such a vindictive egomaniac, you figure that if you can't be the nominee, then you'd rather the GOP win the general election.

LucieLee, FL   June 2nd, 2008 8:55 am ET

Why is it that the media still feels the need to appease Hillary by not holding her or her surrogates to account for this misleading fodder she continues to crank out. She needs to get off of this entitement thing....the crown has fallen from her mantle......she needs to get over it and move on..especially if she holds any hope of being of value in the Party in the future.

Valjean256   June 2nd, 2008 8:55 am ET

Hillary as no one to blame but herself and her campaign.
She anionted herself the front runner and dismissed the importance
of the lesser populated states. Barack capitalized by waging a
strong campaign in all states therefore campaigning for all votes.

Barack also now to a slight detriment followed the rules set
out by the DNC and took his name off the ballet in Michigan. Rules
that Hillary ignored. We must also mention that early in the
campaign that it was the higher ups in the Clinton camp that
argued to have Michigan and Florida penalizied for moving up
their primaries closer to New Hampshire's first in the nation date.
You don't get to argue for both sides of the coin when you find that
you don't like the results of your teams decision.

It is clear that Hillary will say anything and hope against hope
that some kind of act of God strikes the front runner. It is clear that she is running only for title of President but not because she would in fact be the best President. Even all of the talking heads pro and con say there is really no difference in their level of experience despite that 3AM farce they came up with. Let us all unite behind the unifier not the polarizer and get this party healed.

LifeLongDemocrat   June 2nd, 2008 8:55 am ET

Let's write-in HIllary in November. That may be our only hope.

Dems: let's have a national primary all on one day in the future. The supergelegates can still be a part of the process so that the pols can exercise their self-interest.

Hillary write-in if not the nominee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Zack   June 2nd, 2008 8:55 am ET

Hillary is ahead when it comes to states that matter... yeah right!
Why won't you include the caucuses? Why count Michigan as if it was a legal election – when Obama's name was not on the ballot to show support to the DNC's rules?

If you count the caucuses and give about 75%of the uncommitted vote from Michigan to Obama... well, guess who's ahead?

In any case, there's only math that matters – delegates and Obama is winning it too.

Ryan   June 2nd, 2008 8:54 am ET

They need to put an asterisk in the ad when they mention she holds the popular vote and detail out the complicated math and exclusions that give her that "lead".

Clinton Supporter   June 2nd, 2008 8:54 am ET

Who needs the Supreme Court to take the election away from the Democrats? They have a penchant for eating their own young. The Supremes have nothing on them for self serving "interpretation" of their own rules to give BHO Michigan delegates. Go to the Credentials Committee, then the convention, then give lip service to this guy. See you in 2012, if Wunderkind hasn't gotten us blown up by then.

Adewole   June 2nd, 2008 8:53 am ET

Tim I totally agree with you,She should be sue false advertising and misleading,What she fails to realize is that in every contest a winner must emerge which is in this case Obama,Hilary supporter should see the game is over,The only option left for her is to bow out in grace or disgrace.

MD in OK   June 2nd, 2008 8:53 am ET

In Hillary's count she is ahead in the popular vote if you don't include Michigan and the caucus states. My question is why would she not inlude the caucus states, which will vote in the general, but does include Puerto Rico in her fuzzy math when they can't even vote in the general?

What's really disturbing is her supporters who believe this to be the truth.

Helen   June 2nd, 2008 8:53 am ET

The Disadvantage of not having the Florida and Michigan votes counted earlier, plus the Press Bias have placed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton in this Bind. The Superdelegates were just jumping ship when it became close earlier on – they were afraid of the possible backlash from African Americans.

I am an Affrican American who stands by Hillary because I am convinced that Sen. Clinton is better of two Candidates to lead the Country. I do think that Sen. Obama is a great and wonderful Guy – but I am not quite sure he is ready.

I stand by Sen. Hillary to the end.

Love you Hillary.

atypical white woman   June 2nd, 2008 8:53 am ET

Let's not forget that REpublicans were urged to vote for Clinton to skew results to make her the nominee so they could take her out in NOvember. So yes, every vote does count, but I suspect not all who voted for HRC in the primaries will be supporting her in the fall.

Aside from that, her tactics throughout this campaign have revealed her rather immature character; character that is not befitting of a leader.

We've had a taste of that for the last 8 years. How has that worked out?

Lay it down Clinton. . . please. .. . ... .. .

Mary   June 2nd, 2008 8:53 am ET

Do she not realize that some of the people in Michigan voter for her because they are true democrats. Obama's name was not on the ballot and they did what any true democrat would do they voted for her.

Leroy Sturdivant   June 2nd, 2008 8:53 am ET

if anybody get on this site and say she is doing this for the people that is supporting of her got to be crazy. Because i really think she is doing this for her and ONLY her. And now she is making sure she is hurting obama chances in the fall so if he fail in the fall i hope all of her supporters blame her and not obama because he is the ONLY one that is doing the right thing.

Kat from NH   June 2nd, 2008 8:53 am ET

She's sailing up that river in Egypt again...... DENIAL !

Of course she wins when she selectively picks and chooses which states count and which do not. She has her own system which is totally different than the structure laid out by the Democratic party.

Hillary is all about Hillary......winning is her only goal and she is so focused on that right now that she doesn't see how badly the party is wrenched in two. Her "loyal supporters" are so focused with her that they've all threatened to vote for McSame rather than support the apparent democratic nominee, Obama.

How can one honestly believe that voting for 4 more Bush years is better than rallying together and trying to beat the republicans back to kingdom come ?? This cult like behavior has me baffled. Yes, I am an Obama supporter and have been since day one, but if HRC was our party's choice , then no question, I'd vote for her. I DO NOT SUPPORT 4 MORE YEARS OF BUSH'S FAILED POLICIES AND STRATEGIES.

Wake up, Hill-Zombies and just vote DEMOCRATIC !! Gas prices , food shortages, the war......... don't you want a solution ? You're only going to get more of the same with McCain ?? I personally cannot afford it ! Can you ?

Obama08 but...   June 2nd, 2008 8:52 am ET

There's a reason why she' s fighting on. The Clintons have something up their sleeve. Don't be suprised if before the convention a video of Obama surfaces of him clapping on Wright's comments Obama finds despictable, or something else that will wipe him off the political map. And Hillary will act very suprised. I've always felt it will be McCain vs Hillary. Hillary will win. I'm not happy about this. I will campaign for Ron Paul if it really is all going to go down like this.

CNN, think you might post this one???? I'm wondering why you all tend not to acknowledge Paul? He won 24% of Iowa. I'm for Obama but I'm not blind, and so aren't a lot of other people.

brad   June 2nd, 2008 8:52 am ET

She is to me, like someone who is 20 laps down in the Indy 500 and thinks that she can win the race when there is two laps to go. It doesn't matter how well you are running now, truth is Obama has not contested her in quite a while and is on auto-pilot. He is the winner of the race, PERIOD, and will be our next President.

ROBERT CROWLEY, MINNEAPOLIS MN   June 2nd, 2008 8:52 am ET

i WAS REALLY HOPING TO SEE A WOMAN AS PRESIDENT IN MY LIFE TIME (I am 67) BUT WOULD STILL BE DELIGHTED TO SEE HER AS VP AND OBAMA AS PRESIDENT. I CAN NOT UNDERSTAND THOSE THAT WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN IF SHE IS NOT THE CANADIATE.

REMEMBER, THE NEXT PRESIDENT COULD APPOINT UP TO 4 SUPREME COURTS JUSTICES AFFECTING THE NEXT 20 PLUS YEARS. SUPPORTING MCSAME IS BEYOND STUPID IF YOU ARE A TRUE LIBERAL.

White Woman from Bismarck for Obama   June 2nd, 2008 8:52 am ET

Why isn't CNN explaining how Clinton arrives at the "Popular Vote" lies. She takes away Obama's caucus wins and gives herself all of the votes in Michigan, and she wants the full votes instead of half in Florida even though the Republicans also gave half votes for Florida and Michigan.

Just as HIllary supporters say they will not vote for Obama, I will not vote for Hillary if the CNN and the Clinton machine manage to steal the election from Obama.

The nomination is not an entitlement for her because she is married to the womanizer who cheated on her so many times.

Lord, do we really want the nasty Bill Clinton roaming around the white house again? Well, do we?

Come on CNN, post this blog even though you have thrown out a lot of blogs that were supportive of Obama and some of us think we know why.

Even Fox was more fair to Obama this morning than CNN and that's saying a lot.

OLUWAFEMI GEORGE   June 2nd, 2008 8:51 am ET

Is white house position a do or die affair for SEN.CLINTON?.Or it's her entitlement position because her attitudes is showing more clearly that white house position as president really belongs to her and clinton's family.They have been in the white for good 8years and i think they should allow a new breed to do something new.A new change rather showing that attitude that the president of the UNITED STATE OF AMERICA really belongs to her.
FEMI GEORGE.
IRELAND

Brandon   June 2nd, 2008 8:51 am ET

A 0.1% difference doesn't given anyone the right to claim the popular vote. Hillary claiming that she has a significant majority is not just absurd, but makes me feel like she is trying to swindle me. Doesn't she realize I am far too cynical to believe an add like that?

roger   June 2nd, 2008 8:51 am ET

I hope Sen. Obama's "laptop warriors" keep insulting Sen. Clinton & her supporter so they can get what they deserve, McCain in the Whitehouse. We will vote for McCain.
A Hillary supporter.

Ravi   June 2nd, 2008 8:51 am ET

To compare apples with appels, it is necessary to exclude michigan votes, as Obama's name was not on the ballot, and the Puerto Rico, because those votes are irrelevant for the general election.

What?   June 2nd, 2008 8:51 am ET

she is only continuing it so that people will continue donating to her. who else is going to pay the 20 million in debt? and, 11 million of that is personally hers.

omj   June 2nd, 2008 8:43 am ET

Why can't she just accept the fact the Senator Obama had the better plan and he beat her in all ways possible. Now she wants to claim that she has the popular vote using her math. How convient.

Foreign observer   June 2nd, 2008 8:42 am ET

Future can change every moment but few things are inevitable. So is this and a potential president should see that.

Over the Hill(ary)   June 2nd, 2008 8:42 am ET

As bitter as her and her supporters are, I think it's best they sit out the cheerleading for Obama portion of this campaign. They are too volatile a bunch to have in Obama's corner. Thanks, but no thanks.

Justin   June 2nd, 2008 8:42 am ET

Its funny how one can say "count all the votes," then say, "except those from places I didn't win, exclude the people who voted uncommitted, and all those undemocratic caucuses I lost." Its so frustrating that Clinton continues to poison her supporters to not vote for Obama when she knows this was an election she mismanaged from DAY ONE.

Kevin   June 2nd, 2008 8:41 am ET

I hope all you Obama supporters realize that Obama has lost 4 of the last 6 primaris by approximately 20 points. She does actually have the popular vote because remember Edwards was in the race during Michigan primary and alot of those voters like him. Also, some more food for thought, there are no caucuses in the general election!

Anyone but Obama!

TheLeftNut   June 2nd, 2008 8:40 am ET

For every vote to count, you have to count every vote

Where were this protesters in 2000?

FL and MI broke the rules. I'm sick of letting rule breakers getting away with rule breaking....

We've just had 7+ years of it!

stu   June 2nd, 2008 8:40 am ET

Just the blind and jealouos people never see that Hilary Clinton is a best of the best president candidates. Flow to the crowd is maner of the simple one.

beyond politics   June 2nd, 2008 8:39 am ET

And what about the caucus states? I have a feeling THOSE aren't counted either!

LesVa.Beach   June 2nd, 2008 8:19 am ET

Please, just go away.

QG   June 2nd, 2008 8:19 am ET

I guess she doesn't mind these types of ads since she has so little dignity left.

Joana Marteleira   June 2nd, 2008 8:15 am ET

Just when we think we have all our ducks in a row...
everything shifts.Give it up Senator Clinton it's time.
Joana

Leader of the popular vote   June 2nd, 2008 8:13 am ET

"Clinton's claim to winning the popular vote is debatable"

Thats an understatement. Under one scenerio where Clinton ("Champion of the every vote counts slogan") has to disenfranchise 270K votes in Michigan just to claim that she is the leader of the popular vote.

I was a Hillary supporter, but I can no longer support her.

Kim C   June 2nd, 2008 8:13 am ET

The superdelegates needs to put an end to this madness!!!!

Obama 08

DC Insider   June 2nd, 2008 8:13 am ET

If I were Hillary and lost to Obama, I would urge her to run as an Independent. She would handily against both barack and mccain. And, what was good enough for Joe Liberman is good enough for Clinton.

Mel   June 2nd, 2008 8:13 am ET

I wonder if the Hillary camp in Florida realizes that by threatening to vote McCain in the general election if they don't get their way is exactly what the republicans wanted to happen when they started this mess by moving dates? I hope that Hillary will step in and explain to them that either Democrat in office is better than McCain.

jeff - Dallas   June 2nd, 2008 7:57 am ET

Clinton campaign claims that we should count every vote, yet doesn't want to include the caucus states in her poular vote claim. Typical political double speak.

Obama 08

HILLARY CAN WIN IN NOVEMBER!!   June 2nd, 2008 7:54 am ET

HILLARY PROVED LAST NIGHT THAT SHE CAN WIN!
SHE HAS ALWAYS HAD MY SUPPORT!
CONGRATULATIONS AND GO HILLARY!

Jim Russell   June 2nd, 2008 1:30 am ET

It ain't over until it's over! Remember, the Clinton's will burn the village if necessary to get what they want. Misleading the voting public is quite normal with both Hillary and Bill.

rob   June 2nd, 2008 1:25 am ET

Clinton is Toast!

Ricky   June 2nd, 2008 1:25 am ET

So she's winning the popular vote... but only if you count Puerto Rico, and don't count Obama as having gotten any in Michigan, and also not including some caucus states? I'm sure the superdelegates will be really convinced.

wolfsbane   June 2nd, 2008 1:24 am ET

I find this ad hard to swallow from someone who claimed the race would be finished by Super Tuesday, who had surrogates sign off on the MI/FL penalties, who doesn't hesitate to discount caucuses, and who said herself that the MI election "will not count for anything".

I hope that when she campaigns for Obama, Clinton does so with the same tenacity, but with a little less of this dissembling, please.

Greta   June 2nd, 2008 1:16 am ET

She IS hurting the party, and I wish she'd drop out and help Obama.

Justin   June 2nd, 2008 1:15 am ET

Since Hillary claims to "Make Every Vote Count" why doesn't she add in Idaho, Nebraska, Maine, Iowa, Nevada, and Washington into her popular vote? Oh, that's right, if she did then the numbers would sway Obama's favor and she can't have that know.

ehud d jew   June 2nd, 2008 1:15 am ET

she should just bow out its over,though i remain a supporter of hers,but i think we can't afford to give the republicans the white house again.

Tim Xue   June 2nd, 2008 1:15 am ET

Hillary is really stretching it this time. She's trying to salvage anything she can to convince the superdellies to go her way in the midst of Obama's inevitable victory. Quite pathetic, really.

Someone should sue her for false advertising.

Diogenes   June 2nd, 2008 1:15 am ET

I feel for Hillary. To all intents and purposes, she was the annointed nominee; she never thought she could lose.

Naturally, it's hard for her to accept the finality of her loss. In time, hopefully, she will get over it.

For now, she reminds me of Don Quixote; flailing gallantly against the windmills.

Sue in MI   June 2nd, 2008 1:05 am ET

So he does not have the mandate he claims after all! Hillary is more electable, period. Stay the course, girl!

Some Guy   June 2nd, 2008 12:34 am ET

What about counting the caucuses though?

TOM CA   June 2nd, 2008 12:32 am ET

She is pressing hard to steal the nomination and will not stop until she gets what she wants and she is unfit to be our President. She is very sick and she is very power hunger and enjoys being in the show all the time.

Concerned Canadian   June 2nd, 2008 12:28 am ET

Hillary Clinton should receive the 200 plus superdelegates for her to be nominated as the Democratic candidate.

Obama has misrepresented himself immensely in front of the nation and he should resign from the campaign as well as this " church ".

Obama has close ties and friendship with radical and racist pastors and he has ties with extremists like Farrakhan and Ayers. He's lied about his American. He sat in a place that preached hate called ' Black Liberation Theology " for 20 LONG YEARS.

Obama has not been vetted. He has not the stature and character to be a President of the United States.

Obama 'subscribes' to this radical belief of Black Liberation Theology just by the fact he went to these sermons for 20 LONG YEARS !!

Mainstream media has failed the American people miserably in not asking these direct questions to Obama concerning his belief in the radical and disturbing Black Liberation Theology. He says he resigns from the church ...so what...he belongs with these radical and disturbing people and he may resigned from a church but he still follows this disturbing and radical religion preached in Trinity United.

People will vote for McCain. They see the bs with Obama and they see how the DNC has skewed the results in the delegate count to favor Obama. Thousands and millions in America are turned off by Obama's long term radical and racist ties and his feeble excuses.
Its just not believable when you've been there for 20 LONG YEARS !

Westy   June 2nd, 2008 12:28 am ET

Seriously, Democrats, We CANNOT let McCain send more of our young people to die, be disabled, or be permanently disabled. Seriously, if you are a hillary supporter consider this we need to stop the war, will McCain? What have you accomplished?

swede   June 2nd, 2008 12:27 am ET

I see she has the popular vote but when the Super Delegates get behind Obama that don't mean a thing. Or should it?

Tim   June 2nd, 2008 12:26 am ET

Let the woman run... and get the DNC to quit playing games with Democracy before your vote only counts as .5

Luz in Texas   June 2nd, 2008 12:26 am ET

A cheater shouldn't be rewarded.

Harry Tubman   June 2nd, 2008 12:23 am ET

Mrs. Clinton has become the enemy of the Democratic Party. If she doesn't step down this week, she needs to be taken down by the Senior members of the Democratic Party.

Sandy   June 2nd, 2008 12:22 am ET

Evil and conniving...and she wants to be our president.

I think I will go with the Democratic candidate who plays by the rules.

Christopher in Silicon Valley   June 2nd, 2008 12:22 am ET

Popular vote doesn't win the race. Ask Al Gore.
If we believed in the popular vote, we wouldn't have had "W".
Sobering thought!

tedy   June 2nd, 2008 12:22 am ET

Is this lady realy loves this country or she loves only this country's power. Funny.........over is over..............winner is winner.................looser is looser.
Good luck Chelsea see you sometimes.Mum is retiring and will STAY home now to take care of Dad.

Carl   June 2nd, 2008 12:22 am ET

She'll say and do anything to make people think she "deserves" to win and to tell you the truth, she's only fooling herself.

I await her lovely speech congratulating Obama when he is declared the nominee and starts to support him – if she hasn't already made that impossible.

Only time will tell.

Fayetteville, NC voter   June 2nd, 2008 12:21 am ET

The math is not in her favor.

Eliot   June 2nd, 2008 12:20 am ET

its funny how some Hillary supporters say that they are behind her and will never vote for Obama. If Obama is the nominee Hillary will rely behind Obama and they who support Hillary must vote for Obama. Cut some slacks here, its a historic contest but there can only be one winner.

mary   June 2nd, 2008 12:20 am ET

CNN this is getting boring listening to the same hog wash about the popular vote. Time to talk about something we actually care about. We knew she was going win in Puerto Rico, why else would she campaign there for weeks.

I love the blogs, but this is old news that just keeps getting rehashed.

henry   June 2nd, 2008 12:19 am ET

The biased DNC party elders & the media who is very obviously Pro-Obama from Day 1 of the Primary Campaign has basically just handed the November Presidential Election (Via Electoral College Format) to GOP Presidential Candidate JOHN MCCAIN!!! last Saturday during the DNC Rules Committee.

RG   June 2nd, 2008 12:18 am ET

Alexander – Recount please. Hillary now leads by 10,000
total votes after PR, totally excluding MI

-

Frankie   June 2nd, 2008 12:16 am ET

I believe John Edwards should also be awarded some of those uncommited votes at least one third votes, but then again, we should split the uncommited votes in half. Either way, our votes don't really count, It's the super delegates that decide who should we vote for. Barack Obama has the least experience to become our commander in chief but that does not mean I won't vote for him if he does win the nomination. I am upset that Hillary has been counted out since the beginning of this election and she has not had a fair deal in this. To all the Clinton hate mongers who seem to have forgotten how well off we were when Clinton was president, I don't know what to say to all of you. You have been criticizing Hilary long before she ran for president .

JAYBROWN   June 2nd, 2008 12:16 am ET

That's nice.

jack cruise   June 2nd, 2008 12:15 am ET

We are all pretty sick of you hilary, just give up and go home, its over........accept it

AMN   June 2nd, 2008 12:15 am ET

Aw, hush Hillary. Your goose is cooked, and ready for the carving.

Scott OKC   June 2nd, 2008 12:13 am ET

Silly Hillary...intelligent people can see past your silly reasoning...

Eliot   June 2nd, 2008 12:13 am ET

doesn't she reminds you of the Madam vise president in the season 1 of prison break? Sheesh,

K of TX   June 2nd, 2008 12:13 am ET

I really wish more pundits would set the record straight on the popular vote argument.

MORE PEOPLE HAVE VOTED FOR BARACK OBAMA THAN HILLARY OR ANY OTHER CANDIDATE IN HISTORY.

If Hillary believes in counting EVERY vote, then she shouldn't have a problem counting the people who voted in caucus states! Their votes matter too....

FH2   June 2nd, 2008 12:12 am ET

So what... She won a few more places and votes. Ot still dose not change that it's over for her. Do the math she will lose on tues might as Obama will go over the new mark. But one more thing.. Majority of Dems DO NOT WANT!!!! Clinton to be V.P. We want her to help unite the party and get back to her job in in NYC. Thanks for your help but we got it from here.

Obama 08 BEYOND!!!

Steve Kenedy   June 2nd, 2008 12:12 am ET

I can tell you this, if she gets picked I'll vote Independent, no way I'll vote for Hillary Clinton..

linda from prescott   June 2nd, 2008 12:12 am ET

Delegates elect the nominee in the primaries.
Get over it.

bob   June 2nd, 2008 12:12 am ET

WILL SOMEONE ASK THE " DNC " HOW DO YOU STEAL
DELAGATES FROM ONE CANDIDATE AND GIVE THEM TO ANOTHER CANDIDATE . IS THIS A NEW WAY TO RUN A SO
CALLED DEMOCRATIC GROUP?????

Shannon   June 2nd, 2008 12:11 am ET

Words cannot express how utterly bored I am with her callous disregard for reality in this election. I thank God that she will never be the POTUS.

Debbie   June 2nd, 2008 12:11 am ET

It will not matter come Wednesday. So let me get this straight as far as the Clinton supporters go when Obama is the nominee 1) You'll vote for McCain 2)Hillary will run as an independent 3)You will all continue to act like rowdy undiciplined children as you did Saturday 4)Move to Crawford Texas with GWB. 5)All of the above

Danny   June 2nd, 2008 12:10 am ET

News Flash! Puerto Rico doesn't vote in the general election.

Viva Obama!

Linden   June 2nd, 2008 12:10 am ET

That claim also includes Florida, where Obama didn't campaign, and estimates for several states like Iowa that don't publish vote totals. Hillary is really grabbing at straws.

She will not stop   June 2nd, 2008 12:09 am ET

She will not stop until the superdelegates votes - please stop it ladies and gentlemen. This new ad will continue and increase the divisiveness. But does she care?

DOH!!!   June 2nd, 2008 12:06 am ET

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jane in CA   June 2nd, 2008 12:05 am ET

PR can have Hill for Prez. PR takes the Clintons with you.

Will Garvin   June 2nd, 2008 12:05 am ET

This is really sad. Her continued attempt at the smoke and mirrors act is getting old. She now wants to claim the popular vote, but also leave out the fact that the state that would put her on top would did not have her opponent on the ticket? Give me a break.

And since the media and everyone else is afraid to say it, I will... Clinton won in Puerto Rico because of her name... period. It has been reported in several outlets that the citizens in PR didn't really care about the primary election and that many of the registered voters weren't even going to show up. Hillary put her husband out there often because they were familiar with him, and thus making the Clinton name "popular".... Anyone disagree??

Obamafan   June 2nd, 2008 12:05 am ET

what about votes from caucus states... are all the votes counted accurately or only the state delegates are counted... it is really not that hard to be fair!!!

list caucus states
Alaska
Colorado
Hawaii
Idaho
Iowa
Kansas
Maine
Minnesota
Nebraska
Nevada
North Dakota
Texas (Caucus only)
Washington
Wyoming

pam Eugene OR   June 2nd, 2008 12:03 am ET

Stop with the crazy math Clinton. It does not wok for anyone but you! Don't you have ANY pride or self respect ?
It is sickening to watch what you have become Hillary. Please just go home without your tail between your legs.
Obama & Dems 08

Another American in Canada   June 2nd, 2008 12:02 am ET

This woman has no interest in uniting the party....she knows her supporters, or whoever is against Obama, will rally behind her...but those numbers cannot win the election either. This woman has disrespected so many people, how can she actually be a l;eader, she has not shown any leadership qualirty, just her ability to be extremely divisive and bring out the worst in people, did you watch those hecklers in the meeting yesterday How can America be led by such people?????

bob   June 2nd, 2008 12:02 am ET

IF HILLARY HAS THE MOST VOTES, SHE SHOULD CONSIDER
RUNNING AS AN INDEPENDENT FOR PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES . BY DOING THIS SHE WOULD DRAW VOTES
AWAY FROM BOTH OBAMA AND McCAIN CAUSING THEM BOTH
TO LOSE . MAYBE THIS WOULD WAKE UP AMERICA TO THE
FACT SHE HAS THE ABILITY TO DO THE JOB . SHE IS NOT THE
NEW ONE ON THE BLOCK AND WOULD NOT BE 4 MORE YEARS
OF BUSH. I'M SURE BOTH POLITICAL PARTYS WOULD TAKE
NOTICE,OH YA LOL.

Michael   June 2nd, 2008 12:01 am ET

Hillary,

If the DNC doesn't give you the nomination, then run as a third party candidate. Better yet, threaten to do a "Jeffords" and become an independent, causing the Democrats to lose control of the Senate if they do not give you the nomination.

Michael Dunn   June 2nd, 2008 12:00 am ET

Actually CNN don't forget that Washington had a non binding primary as well...

HillarySkank on myspace   June 1st, 2008 11:59 pm ET

Nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah
Hey hey hey
GOODBYE

Obama 08/12

Clinton NEVER AGAIN!

Leonard Hartley   June 1st, 2008 11:58 pm ET

But what all you news media keep leaving out is that OBAMA removed his name from the ballot.

David, Santa Rosa, CA   June 1st, 2008 11:58 pm ET

If Hillary wants every vote to count... then let's count every vote.

Oh... she doesn't want to actually count ALL the votes? Just count them where it's helpful and skip the olthers...? Well okay. If it gets her elected then do what you must.

That some of you think she is actually doing this "for you, her supporters" is what irritates me the most. She's taking advangate of you and you don't realize it. It's like taking candy from a baby or stealing an old lady's SSI. There is no grace, no morals, and no depth. (and apparetnly, no ability to run a presidential campaign!).

Michael Dunn   June 1st, 2008 11:56 pm ET

Not to drive the sport analogies into the ground but...This is another way that the Clinton campaign is trying to change the rules at the end of the game. I'm willing to bet that that the New England Patriots would love it if we could apply this tactic in other areas. They could then make a case that they should be the Super Bowl Champions! They gained more yards than New York did. Granted they were behind on the score board at the end of the game, but they did gain more yards, therefore they should be Super Bowl Champions!

The name of the game is delegates, the candidate with the most delegates wins...period. The popular vote argument is at best flawed. this whole argument is divisive and ridiculous. Granted it's been decided that Michigan and Florida count but I don't know one reasonable person that can't concede the point that Obama would have done better in Michigan had his name been on the ballot and had he been able to campaign in each state. We saw it time after time after time. Hillary went into every state with a 20 or more point lead and in every state where they both campaigned vigorously the game was either dramatically reduced or he was able to turn a loosing state into a winning state. I am sure that Florida and Michigan would have been no different.

I'll just be glad once Tuesday is over, hopefully the remaining super delegates will declare, Obama should only need 30 at the most out of the remaining over 200 super delegates remaining, and we can then get to work for November to make sure we get a Democrat in office.

Hillbillary!   June 1st, 2008 11:55 pm ET

This is the same person who said on a radio talk show that Michigan would not count for anything. Now it's the popular votes....what will she come up with next!!!

reyrey   June 1st, 2008 11:54 pm ET

ok she won great win now is this truly for the people or for senator clinton i don't feel she cares especially the way she sends people to donate to her web site look honestly i don't care as long as at the end of the day people vote for who ever is the nominee we are suffering and we need either one of these 2 candidates ok

sam texas   June 1st, 2008 11:52 pm ET

who cares she is done get over it tuesday cant get here soon enough

Peter   June 1st, 2008 11:52 pm ET

Clinton is a liar... I know this is CNN but did anyone watch meet the press today? Her representative was beaten right and left by Tim Russert on the popular vote math... its so sad that she simply cannot tell the truth.

David   June 1st, 2008 11:52 pm ET

Should say congratulations to Obama, if you do the math now it is totally inconceivable that Obama is not going to be the nominee.

Tyrone Brown   June 1st, 2008 11:51 pm ET

Barack Obama is going to be the democratic nominee – it's not a question of if...but when. And looking at the final days of the primary process, we are going to be moving on to the next phase of the Obama campaign and movement come Tuesday. We look foward to hearing Hillary's concession speech and seeing her work hard to unify the Democratic party all the way to victory in November.

Obama '08

Frustrated In Texas   June 1st, 2008 11:50 pm ET

Senator Clinton, has a young woman, i have lost all respect for you. You are going to make it hard for another woman to run, we will be called petty and whinny (sp?) because of the way you have conducted yourself.......to think i respected you at some point :(

MC, PA   June 1st, 2008 11:50 pm ET

I know it's hard to accept the reality. But, you and your supporters have got to give Obama some credits. He won the primary fair and squre. It's over. Do NOT ever dream about coming back in 2012 after doing a maximum damage to Obama and the party. Do youself and your husband/daughter a favour, bow out gracefully and rally your supporters behind our party nominee Obama. That is when we will forgive you.

Michael   June 1st, 2008 11:49 pm ET

The obama campaign argues about everything. Clinton is the popular vote winner. However obama has decided to be like bush in 00 and claim victory regardless of how the vote turns out.

Pretty clear indicator of what kind of president he will make.

Maybe his real name is Barack Obush?

Dems Unite!   June 1st, 2008 11:49 pm ET

Let's be realistic here. The rule agreed upon by all candidates, and the process that's been in place for decades for the Democratic party is that whoever has the most delegates at the end of the nominating process is the nominee. Period. End of story. I'm not being mean, but you can't change the truth or the facts.

Obama '08

Jatovi   June 1st, 2008 11:48 pm ET

This is a false statement. Also it doesn't do anything but divide the party more.

susan   June 1st, 2008 11:48 pm ET

Obama didn't win those votes. isn't it "undemocratic" to award them to him, especially when his campaign blocked a revote?????

scott   June 1st, 2008 11:47 pm ET

Too bad Hillary couldn't fight this hard for health care coverage when she was in the White House. I guess it didn't seem all that important then.

Unite   June 1st, 2008 11:46 pm ET

How can Sen. Clinton claim to want to count EVERY vote by excluding the votes of the cacus states that voted...??? I don't understand....how is it that she is not factoring in those votes when she claims that she is ahead on the popular vote???!?? That's just amazing to me that those people in the commercial holding the banners are not questioning her on that....wow!

Barb in Tn   June 1st, 2008 11:45 pm ET

Absolutely every vote should count. How can it be fair if we vote but the delegates do whatever they want? What's the point in voting then, lets just let the big wigs make the decision like they have this year. Doesn't our constitution say this country is by the people, for the people? What happened? Maybe it's time I changed to an independent. The Dem party is starting to make me feel ill.

Lili   June 1st, 2008 11:44 pm ET

Does Clinton plan to do some changes in the rules based on her strong desire to be Democrats nominee? I can't understand her insistence to stay in the race. No one benefits from this except Republicans. I know Clinton claims that her supporters want her to stay in the race, as one of her supporters; I think she needs to sit with herself and look towards what is the benefit of this race, is it Clinton as Democratic nominee (and we all know it is a lost game) or unifying the party (that what we all Democrats look forward to).

Molly Weasley   June 1st, 2008 11:44 pm ET

Clinton also doesn't count the caucus states where he won and clearly got more votes than she did. Even in her last ads, she can't tell the truth.

What???   June 1st, 2008 11:44 pm ET

The only way she has the popular vote is if we don't count all the votes. So... her ad states "Every Vote Counts"... but it should really say... "Every Vote Counts... As Long As They're for Me". She lost the nomination far and square. Give it up Hilary.

Garth   June 1st, 2008 11:43 pm ET

I believe if John McCain wins (Oh Horrors) in November, he should thank Hillary in his speech for helping him win. She has torn the Democratic Party apart in her drive to be nominated. But I believe she really doesn't care.

So 4 more years of a war we don't want. 4 more years of a tanked economy. Four more years of a divided government. Four more years of wiretapping and illegal listening. Four more years of losing stature in the world.

Thanks Hillary, the only concession I hope is seeing you loose your Senate seat for being an idiot. That I would pay what ever money we have (in relatively worthless US Dollars) to help.

DMan   June 1st, 2008 11:43 pm ET

Clinton diserve to win the dem nomation cuz Obam have no substance to lead on world stage;;; can u guys wake cuz Rep will win again;;;;;;

martin   June 1st, 2008 11:43 pm ET

how is she paying for it?and why spend $ on something not true.she doesn't count ststes with cacuses ,of which,she only won one state caucus.it's ok ,tho,obama and his supporters are bigger than this.enjoy your time on the stage.the party is over tuesday night ,when barack gives his victory speech,whether she's ready to concede or not.

Betty Boop   June 1st, 2008 11:42 pm ET

Is it not important to mention in this article that the DNC Rules & Bylaws committee ruled that the popular vote from Michigan will not be included because all major candidates were not on the ballot??

What is this garbage CNN?

Vera in Pa.   June 1st, 2008 11:42 pm ET

So, my question to the 'rabid' Clinton supporters-If you were REALLY concerned for every vote counting and no, I don't believe you give one iota about that, how do you feel that for HRC to win her popular vote theory, that would be DISCOUNTING the voices of the caucus states and also discounting the hundreds of thousand voters in Michigan that did NOT vote for her? HRC is making it clearer every day why the rest of us MILLIONS that did NOT vote for her, would never want her as our POTUS. No more Bush or Clintons as our President. Look what they gave us? War, recession, impeachment, scandal and poor standing around the world. ENOUGH!

Patrick, Indianapolis   June 1st, 2008 11:42 pm ET

Now that it is official that Obama will win the popular vote, Clinton should finally drop out. Michigan can't be factured into the vote total because Obama wasn't on the ballot. So after tonights PR primary, Obama is ahead by 24,000 plus votes (130,000 plus votes if you include the four caucus states of IA, NV, WA, and ME) and he will win in MT and SD. Obama has WON the popular vote. Obama has WON the delegate race. More people have voted for Obama than any other person in presidential history. Clinton is LYING when she claims that. Obama is the nominee. Clinton should just go away!

Deadhead for Obama   June 1st, 2008 11:40 pm ET

All I have to say is wait till Wednesday morning.

FLORIDA For Barack Obama   June 1st, 2008 11:39 pm ET

The only reason she won big is because of the NAME: Clinton. They know Bill from the 90's and prefer him over Bush. They remember the difference between the 2 as far as International travel (alot of them have family here in the states). Trust me when I tell you if Clinton's name was not on the ballot Obama would have won easily. It has nothing to do with him personally, and they don't know much about him on the island either. Oh, forgot to mention I AM PUERTO RICAN and know the difference from the mainland. AND might I add the gap would have closed if he actually campaigned there as well. Barack has been focusing on McCain and the general. He is not paying any attn to her ridiculous rants & excuses. He is the nominee.

Hillary / Pinocchio 08   June 1st, 2008 11:39 pm ET

How can any sane person agree with her? To get to her total, you have to:

1. Disregard caucus states. (Count every vote ... except those),
2. Count Michigan votes cast for her but allocate not one single Michigan vote for Obama. (Michigan won't count. Oh wait. Michigan must count. But only for meeeeeee.)
3. Disregard Idaho and Nebraska, both of which Obama won, and
4. Drink the cool-aid.

Eric Mattson   June 1st, 2008 11:38 pm ET

I feel very disenfranchised as a caucus-state Democratic voter when Hillary Clinton says comments about "winning the popular vote" while not including any caucus victories for Barack Obama. It really makes me question the character of the former first lady. Talk about not counting the voice of the people...

Gulam Samdani   June 1st, 2008 11:38 pm ET

If I could ask Mrs Clinton and her supporters one question. It would be this one. What were they doing when the National Democratic Committee decided to not count the delegates of Michigan & Florida?
I would have without question accepted Mrs Clinton's arguments. If she had started this call of counting votes and delegates of Michigan & Florida, even before Iowa & New Hamshire primaries.
It would have shown her as a legitimate leader. But sadly enough she only cared for these states, once she saw that she was bitterly loosing.
And the most sad part is that the people of Michigan & Florida were sleeping when this decision was made and they are falling for false concern of Hillary about their votes. We will never be a success as a nation unless we understand the false concerns of our politicians.
It just makes me more sad, since I am a person, that migrated to America for a better world a world of understanding. But what I found was the same old politics and same old ignorant nation.
I pray for us all American that we see the light and select our leaders on their ethics not by their false promises.

Trollmaster   June 1st, 2008 11:38 pm ET

The rules say otherwise. The winner is based on the # of delgates.

If Hillary has a problem with it, she should lobby to get the rules changed to a popular vote for the next election.

Bruce Taylor, Berkeley, CA   June 1st, 2008 11:38 pm ET

It will be over this week : Senator Obama will be the nominee and the superdelegates will decide it.

B. Mendheim   June 1st, 2008 11:38 pm ET

P.S. My almost 18 year old son received his Selective Service notification to register with the government, presumably in the event of a military draft of the young to serve as fodder for these unnecessary wars to which some are deeply committed, among them John McCain.

My tolerance for anyone helping the election of John McCain at this point is very low.

It is time for Clinton to stop damaging the canidacy of Barack Obama. It's way past time.

Lino   June 1st, 2008 11:38 pm ET

YOu are not completely right. Some caucus states just did not count the people who attended. And Obama WON these caucus states. So the margin Obama has is even larger. If we are going to count Michigan we have to add uncommited and also add the caucus states.

HILLARY WON THE STATE OF DENIAL

Arizonan for Obama!   June 1st, 2008 11:37 pm ET

In your quest for it all . . . you will walk away with nothing.

What a disgrace!!!

Eddie G   June 1st, 2008 11:37 pm ET

It doesn't matter Hillary. The primary is decided by delegates. It is like saying you are winning a football game because you have gained more yards, even though you are losing on the scoreboard. Look at the scoreboard Hillary...YOU ARE LOSING!

BHO   June 1st, 2008 11:36 pm ET

In primaries delegates are counted and not the popular votes. I am wondering how her name appeared in the ballot of Michigan while other democratic candidates withdrew their names.

Did Hillary follow the rules of DNC or she go for herself as a lone candidate?

minh   June 1st, 2008 11:35 pm ET

go Hillarry.

Chuck, Democrats United We Stand   June 1st, 2008 11:34 pm ET

more fuzzy math, thats all it is.

Sarah   June 1st, 2008 11:34 pm ET

Hillary is also not counting any of the caucuses. If you want all the votes to count, actually count them all! Also, both candidates signed something at the beginning saying that they wouldn't campaign in Michigan and Florida and that the delegates wouldn't count. What ever happened to that Hillary? Just give up....

OBAMA 08!

BMW   June 1st, 2008 11:33 pm ET

The only reason Hillary won is because she made a promise for Puerto Rico to become a state.Another one of her lies to get votes.
Since she is the most popular, let her go to Iraq.

Angel   June 1st, 2008 11:33 pm ET

She's like Betty Crocker...somebody stick a fork in her...she's done!

AC   June 1st, 2008 11:32 pm ET

More Clintonmath....

Jeff   June 1st, 2008 11:32 pm ET

...because the votes of a very large state (Michigan) came against NOBODY, and she only won I believe around 60% of the vote in Michigan. Nobody in their right mind would consider those part of the equation (even though popular vote is meaningless in this election).

Hillary abilities with lies and deceit are enough to fool the easily fooled; the rest of us can see clearly through the sniper fire.

Jeffrey Eckman   June 1st, 2008 11:31 pm ET

I will never vote for Obama. I will not vote for McCain either. I do not believe either are qualified. The election is over for me. Good luck America, you'll need it.

mike   June 1st, 2008 11:31 pm ET

This popular vote argument is weak. So much concern by Hillary to include all the voters yet she is very willing to leave out the Michigan voters who did not vote. I think enough is enough at this point. I
can't wait till Wednesday. It is then that we will really see what Hillary is made of. Will she continue on this impossible campaign, or will she concede and move to unite the party she has helped to divide?
Watching Hillary supporters in PR booing Obama and seeing their behavior during the DNC proceedings was pretty disgusting. Let's hope that she does the right thing and work towards uniting the party.
Maybe her supporters will stop taking out their frustration on Obama and place it where it belongs, on the republican party.

Pedro, WASHINGTON DC   June 1st, 2008 11:30 pm ET

Hillary 2008. I don 't understand the superdelegates. Obama is not going to take the latino votes in states like Florida.California, New Mexico, Texas, New York ans New Jersey. Superdelegates, please go for Hillary because those states has the large Number of electoral votes.
Every states mr Obama has won , when u see the result with MCain, MCain is beating Obama.
If Obama is the candidate, I will vote for MCain, and I will Campaing for MCain in states with a large number of lATINO VOTERS.

Mark   June 1st, 2008 11:29 pm ET

Their difference in the popular vote would be about 0.1 percent.
Their difference in the pledged delegate count would be about 3%.
Clearly there are flaws in the delegate system when every state handles it differently and each delegate represents a different number of voters.
Why not just keep it simple and count the votes? Because the politicians want to maintain control of the elections and keep it out of the hands of the voters.

NoHillary   June 1st, 2008 11:28 pm ET

Hillary is making a mockery of the system. She is laughing at all of her stupid supporters all the way to the bank.

dl   June 1st, 2008 11:28 pm ET

She has proven she is the stronger candidate..
Okay here how it has gone..
She should quit it's over
Texas Ohio..
She should quit it's over
PA.
She should quit it's over
Indiana
She should quit it's over.... She did not win by enough... Gasp..
W VA.
She should quit it's over.. How dare she
KY.
She should guit it's over
Puerto Rico

Oregon   June 1st, 2008 11:28 pm ET

Clinton's arguments are trivial. If roles were reversed, she'd say the exact opposite. When a candidate will say anything to win . . . there's no reason to believe anything the candidate says.

Gio   June 1st, 2008 11:28 pm ET

It is obvious that Hillary Clinton is the candidate Americans want in the White House. It is also obvious that the Democratic Party wants to hand the nomination to Obama. Simple solution, run as an Independent.
I am ready to volunteer my time, contribute money and all resourses I can to see Hillary in the White House.
Let's see how far the Democratic Party can go without the millions that support Hillary!

mark   June 1st, 2008 11:28 pm ET

Not since people were counted as 3/5ths of a vote have voters been disenfranshised like this. I am a whole person who will be taking his whole vote to McCain this November. The sham that is the leadership of the DNC and the obvious man-crush that CNN and MSNBC have for Obama have led me to believe that the media elite in this country are not to be trusted.

goawaymongers   June 1st, 2008 11:27 pm ET

The woman just can't seem to understand--she has LOST- there is NO WAY she will win and all she is doing is hurting the party. Believe me, activists all over this Nation will never forget- not forgive her selfishness and conceit!

Kris from AZ   June 1st, 2008 11:27 pm ET

Snakes come in all sizes and shapes.

barackobama44thpresident   June 1st, 2008 11:26 pm ET

Sen. Obama took his name off of the ballot because he was abiding by the DNC rules. All those who showed up anyway to vote were told to cast their vote for Obama as uncommitted.

Clinton can NOT claim those votes because the Rules and Bylaws Committee did the fair and right thing by giving them to Sen. Obama. This makes Obama the popular vote winner !

The record has been set straight, so no matter how Clinton tries to spin it, everyone including the superdelegates know the TRUTH !

Frank, MO   June 1st, 2008 11:02 pm ET

Clinton – what a fake. A disgrace to women, strong and weak.

Th3rdpwr   June 1st, 2008 11:01 pm ET

Whatever confusion there may be about those uncommitted voters, what is absolutely known is that they voted AGAINST Hilary Clinton; consequently, Obama being the only other candidate in this race gets them by default.

TJ   June 1st, 2008 11:01 pm ET

Her popular vote claim also does not include caucus states. Apparently since they don't hold a good dynamic for her, they don't matter. Just like any state that she didn't win doesn't matter, and neither do the small states apparently. Unless of course she wins them...

It is about time..   June 1st, 2008 11:01 pm ET

It is so sad to see Sen. Clinton making this argument that is based on her math, which is skewed for her favor, at this almost end stage of the primary. I am really not sure how many people, except her die-hard supporters, can find it persuasive. We don't need a leader who manipulates reality. Unfortunately, she is losing by the rule and cannot change it in the middle of the game. That's not a good fight, but is cheating.

nysteeb   June 1st, 2008 11:00 pm ET

Clinton's claim to lead the popular vote is not "debatable". It's a lie. Tell it like it is, CNN.

Willow   June 1st, 2008 11:00 pm ET

HRC has the popular vote IF you don't count the caucus states. Even HRC said several months ago, "the votes in FL and MI do not count." But now she's counting them. I live in Iowa. If they are counting the popular votes, I want MY vote to go for Barack Obama! HRC does not have the popular vote if every democrat has had the chance to vote. That's why we go by the delegate count. The popular vote does not count, because caucus states do not count votes, they count delegates.

Obama in 08/12

Peter Kuhn   June 1st, 2008 11:00 pm ET

Clinton suffers from Bush's fuzzy math problem.

Gaby, TX   June 1st, 2008 11:00 pm ET

Hillary probably thinks that the rest of America can not count like her voters. This is a delegate race, not based on popular vote. Let's be honest for a change Hillary.

Sam   June 1st, 2008 10:58 pm ET

The Clintons' lack integrity and any of their supporters who accept this should check their integrity bearings with God almighty

veronica   June 1st, 2008 10:57 pm ET

Hillary Clinton is my Leader. I voted for Sen. Clinton, obviously my vote is not heard. It is the vote of politicians, rather the so popular delegates and superdelegates. It is not the voice of the citizenship. It is the voice of delegates and their own political interest.

Hillary Clinton with all due respect is the ONLY Candidate qualfied to lead this nation.

With her leading this country, I can honestly say that I can go to bed every night and have peace of mind knowing that my President has the experience and leadership that this country has been needing for the last long eight years.

Hillary 2008'

Th3rdpwr   June 1st, 2008 10:57 pm ET

I guess if you continue saying it long enough, buoyed by news organizations refusing to flatly dispell the illusion, some are bound to believe lie. In any case, lie or not the primary is about delegates .Hillary supporters, whether or not one believes Obama is "electable" in the GE, he has earned the right, per our system, to give it his best shot. Voters, and pundits, can speculate, but should have no power to preempt a candidate's opportunity especially when dictated by fear and cynicism.

Phil   June 1st, 2008 10:57 pm ET

You don't win by popular vote, ask Al Gore. This game is scored in delegates. It's like a basket ball team saying they had more dribbles than the other team even though the other team had more baskets.

Peter Damoah-Afari   June 1st, 2008 10:57 pm ET

The main point in this election is delegate count. It will be insane then for people to be thinking of popular votes. Even she it is not true that Hillary is leading in the popular votes count.

Bill in Illinois   June 1st, 2008 10:56 pm ET

I think that it's time that someone explains to Hillary that she just ain't gonna make it and hopefully she will exhibit some common sense and give it up. If she continues on the path that she is on she will probably go down in history as the person who did the most to destroy the Democratic party.

This is getting to be pathetic. A washed up has been who doesn't know how to bow out gracefully. Hillary will go to her grave complaining that she "Wuz robbed".

3 am call   June 1st, 2008 10:56 pm ET

RING...RING...RING?
HELLO I'M HILLARY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
OH HI, IT'S BILL THERE?
WHO IS THIS?,
HELLO
HELLO?

Rob   June 1st, 2008 10:56 pm ET

Hoo Hum

Susan MO   June 1st, 2008 10:55 pm ET

Not to be rude to Obama.........

Go Hillary !!

We want you for the president!

Hillary 08

NICHOLAS   June 1st, 2008 10:55 pm ET

clinton kept asking for all votes to count,now BAMA supporters should recommend that the votes of person in caucus states be counted.

see i believe that this family is power hungry and now that it seems like the nomination is out of her reach,she is willing to ensure that Obama looses to Mc Cain.

anyone who truly cares about her/his/their party and the future will always put their ambitions last.

Ms Clinton i respect you but you have made it soooooooooo much harder for another woman to run and be successful.you ran a terrible campaign,appeared to be pandering at times and extremely divisive.

try again MAM you might get it right someday.just accept thatthis time is Obama's

ALL hail the chief................OBAMA 08/12

Oregon speaks   June 1st, 2008 10:55 pm ET

This is the raving of a person who just can't give it up. You have to play fast and loose with the figures to allow her an advantage. You have to count Puerto Rico who won't vote in the election, discount Nebraska and Idaho who will vote in the election, and ignore caucus results from all of the caucus states. Then you have to ignore the latest poll of polls (CNN) that has Obama up 53-40 by democrats likely to vote. This is just nuts. Give it up. You lost. Is it so inconceivable that you could lose? Amazing.

U.S. Woman President Supporter   June 1st, 2008 10:55 pm ET

Hillary: Consider stand alone (independent) to compete against McCain and Obama. You can do it. If it happens, you are making history than ever. You can... In order to bring out the best woman leadership in this country, you can prove it.

Plz consider....

Jeff, New York   June 1st, 2008 10:55 pm ET

Here's the real reason Clinton won Puerto Rico, from CNN's own exit polling that they didn't even report on!

40% of Puerto Rican voters said that gender was the "most important" factor in their decision, and 75% of those voters picked Clinton!

In fact, 59% of the voters said that gender was an important factor, and over 71% of those chose Clinton.

When you get to race, almost a third of Puerto Rican voters admitted that race was a factor and they too went overwhelmingly for Clinton....31%!!!!!! That's even higher than Kentucky and West Virginia!!!

That amount of close mindedness is the reason Obama didn't bother campaigning their vigorously...I don't blame him!

blue   June 1st, 2008 10:54 pm ET

She better be continuing on, that's how she'll become President.

And she is definitely on track to do so. It just will take some smart Super D's to state they know she is our best chance and follow the will of the people, whom she is currently leading with over 300 K VOTES.
And that is how we will have GOOD change and win the W H in November.

HILLARY!

TK   June 1st, 2008 10:53 pm ET

Oh I get it, caucus states don't count but Portarico (that doesn't elect presidents) count. This is the most bogus claim ever.

Tired of the Lies, Atlanta, Ga   June 1st, 2008 10:53 pm ET

I don't know why people believe these pitches and out right lies regarding the popular vote. But some people are in denial. Oh well.

ghasan   June 1st, 2008 10:52 pm ET

Doesn’t Hillary Clinton won( the red states of 2004elections ) where many republicans voted for her ? is that why she got most popular votes? Are these people still going to vote for her on November .?

Swiss in Canada   June 1st, 2008 10:52 pm ET

What's wrong with that woman? Does she think Americans are stupid? They do not know a little bit of math? They are not – or are they?

Marc, toronto   June 1st, 2008 10:52 pm ET

Anyone with a Grade 7 education or higher knows that the Michigan and Florida primaries were a farce and so was the so-called decision yesterday to recognize the distorted vote totals there. If Obama had campaigned in Florida and Michigan with the large African American population and all the universities in those 2 states he would have won both primaries by a comfortable margin.

Michigan and Florida votes should not, and do not count in my mind and in the mind of most people with common sense. Period.

Obama won more contests, more elected delegates, more super delegates and had more legit votes. Hillary and her supporters won in their imagination only.

No Pres. No V P 4 Mc Clinton   June 1st, 2008 10:51 pm ET

Why is she wasting money on adds they will fly like her knowing something happening comment on ending date of primary with Kennedy which was a threat or scare tactic . Her piece of cake winning days have ended .
Schneider says Bill was big in Puerto Rico but that is not what Monica,Paula,Jennifer have told the world .

Go Obama 08 /12

Donna in Sebastopol   June 1st, 2008 10:51 pm ET

Does anyone seriously think that no one in Detroit would have voted for Barack Obama had his name been on the ballot?

If you do, I have a bridge I want to sell you...

USAF Staff Sergeant   June 1st, 2008 10:51 pm ET

So... this may sound sexist. I'm not but I couldn't care less if you think I am... but.. I'm so tired of all the women in Clinton's ads. We all get it. She's a female. She has the support of some females. Amazing.

Shay from Canada   June 1st, 2008 10:51 pm ET

I am proud of sen. Clinton for working so hard in this campaign. Yet she still is inventing new metrics to claim that she is winning. She clearly is not. That said Caucus states are not counted in the popular vote hence the reason it is not used as a metric to determine the democratic nominee. That is why the nominee is determined by delegates. I am glad to see that FL and MI will be seated. Even though initially Sen. Clinton said they would not count. I am glad that this has been resolved. I think the focus should be on healing the democratic party getting behind the actual real nominee. That said I hope Sen. Clinton is as good as her word (which lately I am not sure of) and when Sen. Obama is the nominee she will encourage and work to get her followers to join the movement of change and a Sen. Obama.

Sophia   June 1st, 2008 10:51 pm ET

Hillary is a loser.

I am a New Yorker and Hillary have done nothing as a NY Senator!

Hey Clinton Supporters!!!!!   June 1st, 2008 10:51 pm ET

You guys acted so childish on CNN the other night. Booing and hissing and Chanting......What the heck was that!!! I always hear Obama supporters are so disrespectful and childish....well you Hillary supporters you really showed your backsides and provide that Obama supporters are more mature....they didn't act out at all. Don't give me this crap about he is getting vote he doesn't deserve...because Hillary AND Obama agreed that they would not count......so neither one of them should get anything!!! Obviously that isn't what happened and the compromise they made is just...for those that broke the rules.

Jan   June 1st, 2008 10:51 pm ET

Keep Going Lady Dont let them run you out. One things for sure shes no quitter. Just like most women,and mothers somehow someway shell get the job done. its sad to me that alot of women dont see this as our time and refuse to stick together as other minorities do.

Fran Says   June 1st, 2008 10:51 pm ET

Let it go Senator!

At what cost will you continue down this path? Stop for a moment and think about where we would be if the roles were reversed? This entire campaign and all the conversations surrounding it would be moot.

How do we solve this quagmire? Do we sit back and watch you pirate the nomination? Do we offer you what your supporters have promised not to offer Obama . . . their vote?

This divide will not be easily healed. The longer this continues the less chance the Democratic Party has to win in November.

What do you want from us? We all know that you would never be happy or feel satisfied with the VP position. I personally feel it would be an enormous mistake to offer it to you.

Please, find a way to stop this train wreck. We are all damaged by your insatiable and destructive hunger.

STOP NOW! YOU ARE DESTROYING OUR FUTURE IN PURSUIT OF YOUR OWN.

vicky smart   June 1st, 2008 10:50 pm ET

Question to Hillary Clinton. Do you really love this Nation? Do you really love your party? Do you really love your husband's name-CLINTON? Do you really want your party to win? If YES, please stop and support Obama. This is not your time to be the President. Your season is over. We need a change not experience. Don't destroy what you have build. There are other noble positions to function.

GERALD STROTHER   June 1st, 2008 10:50 pm ET

cnn and she needs to get a life over in two days go !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!obams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! she has no shame !!!!!!!

Harry   June 1st, 2008 10:50 pm ET

Yes, vote for Obama if you want McCain to win in November. If Hillary loses, I will vote for McCain. Sorry Obama, you cannot be trusted.

Ed   June 1st, 2008 10:50 pm ET

What a creepy person!!! She is the weirdest person I've ever seen!
What a nutcase!

Voice   June 1st, 2008 10:50 pm ET

To correct CNN flawed report about Clinton leading the popular votes:

Clinton is behind Obama with her win in Perto Rico in the popular vote. She is BEHIND even if Michigan is 100% counted and cancus votes are counted. In other words, when "all votes and every vote is counted" as Clinton asked for, Clintion is behind Obama in the total popular votes.

CNN, be factual. Do not mislead!

adam   June 1st, 2008 10:49 pm ET

i love hillary, but if she is counting mi&fl for the pop. vote she has to count the caucas states too. i think HRC needs to get out gracefully so the party can geet united for the general election. I think Obama can bet mcsame.

i

William   June 1st, 2008 10:49 pm ET

Hey idiot Obamabots, though it is true that the island of Puerto Rico does not vote in the GE, didn't you know that all puerto ricans are US citizens, and can go to the states election time and vote in the GE?

Every puerto rican I know that lives on the island have relatives that live in the states, and all of them can come to the states GE time and vote in the GE.

My uncle just moved back to PR, and I garantee you that while he was here, he voted in all elections.

Now tell me again that their votes don't count.

You dummies ought to check your info before making fools of yourselves for eveyone to see.

Shaz   June 1st, 2008 10:48 pm ET

"Clinton's claim to winning the popular vote is debatable" – actually, it's not debatable, – it's flat-out wrong! Come on CNN, call her on her b.s.! She only wins the popular vote by NOT counting votes of caucus states, and counting Michigan. Since Barack was not even on the ballot there- most of his supporters probably didn't even bother to come out and vote. If this is the kind of "creative accounting" she uses to try to steal the nomination, how could we ever trust her to run our economy?

Dadedi   June 1st, 2008 10:48 pm ET

So she is not going to give up yet? I hope someone tells her to stop doing what she is doing. It is only fair that the rules that were stipulated at the beginning of these campaigns be followed to the letter. That is how it is supposed to be. I have no doubt that most of Clinton supporters are women and women do not follow sports that much and therefore it is much harder to use the sports rules analogy. Clinton is really exploting this to the full. I hope that she gets humiliated at the end by not being offered a VP position. Thanks Clinton for feeding the Democrats to the dogs. You were born a Republican and you have always worked to undermine the Democratic party.

@americans   June 1st, 2008 10:47 pm ET

where is PR? Is that even a state?

If it doesn't count in the GE, it shouldn't count towards a anything near popular vote. Hillarious popular vote pitch is dead on arrival; just lke her campaign!

Hillary is TOAST!

Tim   June 1st, 2008 10:46 pm ET

That is the only argument she has left. This contest is over and we will prevail against McSame. This will be over next week. You will see a number of Super Delegates show their support for Sentor Obama. Then, the last two states will take him over the top.

Obama 08/12!!!

Moe   June 1st, 2008 10:46 pm ET

If popular votes were to determine the candidacy, then Al Gore should have been elected the president in 2000. If it is not a set criterion for the selection process why these people are mentioning it time and time again? I simply do not understand this. If the delegate count math does not indicate a chance for winning for a candidate, should not he or she simply confess that and help the party to win in the general election? Specially for Democrats, this is very important at this point, I would think.

matt   June 1st, 2008 10:46 pm ET

she won the popular vote. game over
give her the nod before i vote mccain on ur tail

mike   June 1st, 2008 10:46 pm ET

good job, but the bad things are too late; as well lack main spicys so its tastless now.

David   June 1st, 2008 10:46 pm ET

Oh my God!!!
Can this lady let it go? she is really annoying ? No wonder her husband was cheating on her! She doesn't know when to quit.
The Clinton's are desperate and they would do anything to grab power even if it meant to break up the democratic party.
wow.

Craig   June 1st, 2008 10:46 pm ET

Don't forget about all the people who voted for Clinton and now wish they had voted for Obama. Poor Hillary. She's losing the game and now wants to change the rules of the game.

Obama 08

carlos from canada   June 1st, 2008 10:46 pm ET

2 things!!!

1 – WHy is no one calling Clinton on the fioction she is trying to perpetrate that she is leading in the popular vorte?!!!

Every news agency on the planet has very clearly stated that this is only tru if the caucus states are not factored in.

What about their votes – I guess not every vote counts after-all!!!!

Why i no one caller her on her flagrant willingnessto disregard the 17 plus million voters who voted for Obama and the miullions more who voted for the other candidates?

What about their votes – I guess they don't after-all either!!!!!

Adamantia   June 1st, 2008 10:46 pm ET

Keep on going Hillary...... Obama and his supporters are to offensive and hatefull for good decent people to vote for.

Steve   June 1st, 2008 10:46 pm ET

The Clinton campaign just spent the last several weeks demanding that the party “count every vote,” where doing so would benefit them (Michigan and Florida). Yet, in order to come up with a popular vote total that puts Clinton ahead of Obama, the Clinton campaign excludes the states that held caucuses. So I guess the Clinton campaign’s real position is: "Count every vote . . . unless you live in Iowa, Nevada, Alaska, Colorado, Kansas, Minnesota, North Dakota, Washington, Maine, Hawaii and Wyoming, in which case your vote does not count at all.” The hypocrisy is breathtaking.

paul   June 1st, 2008 10:46 pm ET

another lie from the clinton camp

Umpire   June 1st, 2008 10:46 pm ET

Delusion, your name is Hillary!

Moe   June 1st, 2008 10:45 pm ET

If popular votes were to determine the candidacy, then Al Gore should have elected the president in 2000. If it is not a set criterion for the selection process why these people are mentioning it time and time again? I simply do not understand this. If the delegate count math does not indicate a chance for winning for a candidate, should not he or she simply confess that and help the party to win in the general election? Specially for Democrats, this is very important at this point, I would think.

Yup   June 1st, 2008 10:45 pm ET

Enough with this two party system! I say Clinton should run as a third party candidate; after all, that would bring REAL CHANGE to Washington!

FrankSZ   June 1st, 2008 10:44 pm ET

I'm really tired of this entire election and the twisted and turned around half-truths and political games. Anyone who can keep up with who's winning what and why and how it counts or doesn't count, my hats off to you.
Anyone else the same way?

schneider.360   June 1st, 2008 10:43 pm ET

ATTENTION HILLARY SUPPORTERS:

remember why you supported a democratic candidate in the first place, why you voted for john kerry and al gore before that. it's because you agree with their values and love this country. you want to end the corruption of the bush white house and the current repulican party.

if you vote for john mccain you're voting for something that is certianly not your love for america and what you think is right. you're voting for "team hillary " and showing all you care about is winning this election process you view a sports game. THIS IS NOT A GAME.

D-Weezy Lancaster, OH   June 1st, 2008 10:43 pm ET

Go Hillary!

Every vote counts...and the rules are the rules. Quit trying to change the rules in your favor toward the end of the game because you are losing. You knew it...she knew it in the beginning stop trying to cheat because your losing. :-)

George Schaaf   June 1st, 2008 10:43 pm ET

Oh Hillary, when will the games end ?
I find it very interesting that the very person who is out there "fighting" to make "every vote count" is conveniently omitting votes from the caucuses when she makes her popular vote argument. Hillary represents the pinnacle of hypocrisy ! Keep going Hillary - you are McCain's finest ally for victory in November !

jj   June 1st, 2008 10:42 pm ET

If the popular vote was so important than why all the fighting
about seating the Florida and Michigan DELEGATES? Because
the popular vote doesn't count in the nomination of the Democratic
candidate for president.

And of course the states that held caucus that Sen.Obama won do
not count popular vote totals so thats why it's DELEGATES that matter!!

Go Obama 2008!!!!

Democrats 08   June 1st, 2008 10:42 pm ET

Why stop at Michigan? If votes for John Edwards are counted for Obama in every state, he wins the popular vote easily.

Realistic   June 1st, 2008 10:42 pm ET

Which of course is funny because when Barack was leading in the popular vote earlier, she said that it didn't matter and that delegates were the only thing that were important.

But let's face facts: The ONLY reason that Hillary is even thinking of staying in the race is that if she drops out she can no longer accept contributions, which would mean that her $30+ million campaign debt to herself would never be repaid. So, she must stay in at the "retail level" so that she can scam the ninnies and the geezers into repaying her campaign debt.

Oh, and as others will point out, her claim to the popular vote is based on a fuzzy math that would make an Enron Director proud.

Back to Wal-Mart, tootsie!

joaquin   June 1st, 2008 10:41 pm ET

she is so obsessed with power wow....that's scary

MBFLA   June 1st, 2008 10:41 pm ET

As of Wednesday AM, this should all be over. Come on now South Dakota, Montana and Supers! Vote for Obama so we can move on towards beating McSame in November!

G. R.   June 1st, 2008 10:41 pm ET

How many times does this have to happen before the Democratic Party accepts that Hillary Clinton:
1. Is not putting the good of the party ahead of her own interests
2. Continues to try to undermine Obama's candidacy with her statements
3. Continues to foment divisiveness instead of party unity
4. Can not accept rules and can not lose graciously

She was ahead at the beginning of the campaign and lost that lead. The negative campaigning did not help her. The gas tax hoax did not fool the public. Super delegates, please do you duty and put this fiasco to rest.

Soji from Texas   June 1st, 2008 10:40 pm ET

Don't people consider this type of manipulation of her saying she has the most popular votes the same as what got us into Iraq?

There is a distinct ethical problem of counting your votes because you were the only one on the ballot, when the states broke the rules.

And this is who you want for President? Someone who deals unethically as well as manipulates?

She would disenfranchise all the Michigan voters who voted uncommitted for Obama, and say their votes don't count?? What about all the caucus states?

This is why Hillary shouldn't be president, it's another George Bush, just like McCain, saying anything and everything to sell one agenda, and not the agenda of the people.

imawake   June 1st, 2008 10:39 pm ET

Why is it that CNN was adament about the super delegates voting according to the popular vote when it seemed to benefit Obama, yet when it may benefit Clinton, the popular vote means nothing?

Montreal   June 1st, 2008 10:39 pm ET

Can someone explain me please why Hilary Clinton did not stop her campaign machine in those both states Florida and Michigan when she knew votes were not supposed to count because of the non-respect of the party rules???? In my opinion, she is responsible of what is happening right now and all the hatred coming from her supporters. What a lack of leadership and hate for democracy. And there are people who wants her as president? With Hilary as president, welcome to the third world war!

Perla   June 1st, 2008 10:38 pm ET

Come on, Sen. Clinton. Let the Puerto Rico primary be a nice face-saving consolation prize. Have a couple cervezas, get some much-deserved rest, and work on a gracious concession speech for Tuesday evening. You might still prove your Democratic salt if you can convince the supporters you have managed to rile into a frenzy that their interests will be better served by a President Obama than McCain.

Larry Buchas   June 1st, 2008 10:38 pm ET

Facts:

Barack leads in number of contests.
Barack leads in pledged delegates.
Barack leads in superdelegates.
Barack leads in the popular vote.
Barack leads with on-line donors.

She put up a good fight but its ending.........

Obama Fan   June 1st, 2008 10:37 pm ET

Obama ist still leading in all categories regardless what Hillbilly is yelling about. She forgot the caucauses.

Oh well, the superdels will remindung her of that when she calls.

Besides, Hillary is not better, otherwise she would be the nomenee.

Amen

Reform is always good   June 1st, 2008 10:37 pm ET

no, she won't lead in the popular vote. Where are her advisors and what are they feeding her? my goodness! this is not rocket science! She leads in ZERO categories, ZERO! NOT in the polls, NOT in the popular vote, NOT in the delegates, NOT in the caucuses, NOT in public opinion! Is this an emotional ride now? Like Candidate, Like supporters. Without the dramatic emotion, this might have stayed decent.

McClinton its NO VP   June 1st, 2008 10:37 pm ET

OMG she is back twisting the math again she is like a Leach keeps hanging on sucking for blood when all the blood is already sucked out and Obama in reach of the Gold Post .

Enough of her is enough she must have been something to have raised imagine the towel was thrown in many times in regards to her conduct.

Go Away McClinton 3 Just Go Away

Azulita Perez   June 1st, 2008 10:36 pm ET

Why in the world would she be spending more money that she doesn't have. I wouldn't want Clinton to be in charge of the national economy.

Susan   June 1st, 2008 10:36 pm ET

Is it Wednesday, yet?

Hillary and her tirades are starting to remind me of a bad tooth.

Democrats Unite Against 3rd Bush Term   June 1st, 2008 10:36 pm ET

Go away! Just go away with that "Enron" accounting of the popular vote. Besides, would you be saying this nonsense if the situation was the other way round – HRC leading the delegate count and BO running around moving the goal posts and changing the math?

Come on woman... we're fed up. Just go. If not, keep running even after November...

Teta   June 1st, 2008 10:35 pm ET

If Obama was a true statesman he would allow all votes to be counted. That is the sign of true leadership. He would then gain the respect he lacks and the support of the remaining uncomitted super delegates.

EJ   June 1st, 2008 10:34 pm ET

It is apparent Hiliary will not give up, she will only go when actually dragged off the stage at the convention center

Wizzard   June 1st, 2008 10:34 pm ET

So basically she is allowed to count votes that don't count (PR, hey it might be a nice place, but they can't vote in the GE), but strip votes from Obama that do (ID & NE) to arrive at the numbers she wants to.

And people wonder why the goverments budgets are so screwed up!

Simply amazing. I'm sure there is a good reason she wants to destroy the Democratic Party, but for the life of me I can't figure out what it is...

Don   June 1st, 2008 10:34 pm ET

I am tired of the Hill and her continuing to think she should have the Democratic nomination; and that is just what she wants.
All of you true followers have to stay strong. She and Bill want to wear us down. They will not do anyone any good unless it is in the interest of the Clinton's.
She has proven over and over again that she is NOT a leader. She has not interest in the people of the USA. She only cares about one thing and that is her......
She will continue to divide the party until she gets what she thinks she is entitled to. She does not care about anyone, anything, or anyplace but herself and her place in history.
We need change. We need new ideas. We need someone who is not stuck in the old world, that the Clinton's are very much part of.

We have to continue to fight and fight hard to ensure she drops out of the race. She does not deserve nor has she earned any right to be our person. She has done nothing other than cause everyone grief and divide a party that should now be coming together to win in November.

Dump the Hill and go big O.....

Neutral   June 1st, 2008 10:34 pm ET

Obambi is like a TITANIC, hit an ICEBERG and it's sinking! What makes it worse, he is taking the WHOLE Democratic Party with him at the bottom of the ocean.

Ann Marie   June 1st, 2008 10:34 pm ET

Thousands of voters especially young voters and African-American voters in Michigan and Florida stayed home because they believed the DNC when they said that the primary did not count. I wonder if Hillary planned to trick Obamas voters in Michigan and Florida, knowing her name was more popular and that Obama could not campaign there? She knew Obamas demographic would stay home. Now she wants the votes in those disqualified primaries to be included in the popular vote but not the votes in 16 caucus states and territories?

theresa denton   June 1st, 2008 10:33 pm ET

This is an absolute joke!! We shouldn't even be here, she should have already BEEN GONE! What is really going on here ??!! Barack Obama should have been declared the nominee after Saturday, and he should definitely be declared the nominee after Tuesday, because he will win South Dakota and Montana. If everyone wants to "really come together" then stop the craziness and lets start pulling together and get behind our nominee who will be Barack Obama.

Obama all the way....   June 1st, 2008 10:33 pm ET

Gimme a *D*
Gimme an *E*
Gimme an *L*
Gimme a *U*
Gimme an *S*
Gimme an *I*
GImme an *O*
Gimme an *N*
Gimme an *A*
Gimme an *L*

What's that spell????

Hillary Clinton!!!!

Brazza Diplomat   June 1st, 2008 10:33 pm ET

Could it be that Hillary has already struck a deal to have her campaign debts paid-off by the party – so hey, throw caution to the wind and run up a sterling tab on the backs of the democrats who have scorned her for the nomination.

Something intensely errie about this poetic figure lancing a windmills... when she (and husband Bill) should be directing efforts toward unifying and strengthening the party for the Fall election.

These narcissists will never let go – and what a rude awakening it will be to eventually admit that, indeed, the nation did NOT want four more years of a Clinton legacy. Chelsea – perhaps you can persuade Mom and Dad to give it up?

Jose Roman   June 1st, 2008 10:32 pm ET

If Hillary Clinton will not get the respect as women, as a democrat, as the best candidate to run this country I will vote repoblican. LATINOS pro HILLARY, Hillary is the BEST person to solve all the problemes that BUSH created. SO please think about Hillary.

Henry   June 1st, 2008 10:31 pm ET

Hillary who?

laurence   June 1st, 2008 10:31 pm ET

clinton is a liar and everybody, everybody knows it! she and her campaign want only the votes counted that they count. the problem with their argument is this: they don't count any votes from caucus states which would undoubtedly swing the vote decidedly in obama's favor. it's o.k. though because the superdelegates will put this mess and the disingenuous and mean-spirited campaign of hillary clinton out of their misery. and not a moment too soon.

Chris -- Cleveland   June 1st, 2008 10:30 pm ET

I wish it was cool if I could openly lie to get what I want at MY job ...

Pepou   June 1st, 2008 10:30 pm ET

Hillary C. : Every vote has counted and you have lost. Get out !!!

Former Democrat   June 1st, 2008 10:30 pm ET

Obama choose not to compete in Michigan of his own free will.

Therefore he does not deserve any votes from that state, anymore than Edwards, Biden, Dodd, Gravel, Kucinich, or Richardson deserve any. If you choose not to be on the ballot, tough luck.

Hillary deserves all of Michigan's delegates.

peter warui   June 1st, 2008 10:30 pm ET

YEP! OBAMA HAS BEING A WEAK CANDIDATE FROM MARCH 4. HIS OBAMAMANIAC THING IS ALMOST DEAD IN THE WATER.
GOOOOOO! HILLARY, YOU DONT QUIT, HANG ON MAMA.

Vy, California   June 1st, 2008 10:29 pm ET

sure, hillary, ahead in pop vote only in y'ahead.

The only history you've made in lies

Ed   June 1st, 2008 10:29 pm ET

Was disappointed to see the behavior of the Clinton supporters at the DNC committee meeting on Saturday. Luckily that was a small group of people. I hope that they do not represent the typical Clinton supporters. If they do, the Democratic party will surely lose another election regardless of who is nominated.

Jeff, Huntington Beach, CA   June 1st, 2008 10:28 pm ET

Hillary's new pitch should be, I am just like George W but better. She can lie, manipulate, and spin with the best that the Republicans have to offer. Is she working with Carl Rove these days? Remember election 2000?

Jackie from Michigan   June 1st, 2008 10:28 pm ET

Go Hillary!! I think you should take it all the way. Until he secures the nomination the race is still on. I will never back Obama . If he is our nominee Ill vote for Ron Paul or Jesse. Americans are really sick of the political games with our lives.

James L   June 1st, 2008 10:27 pm ET

Is the Hillary camp that bad at math? Their argument is every vote counts and yet their math of having the popular vote does not include caucus states and the many uncommited that voted for Obama. Lets be honest here. 1+1= 2 and not 1+1=3 to justify your position.

Bob Stephens   June 1st, 2008 10:27 pm ET

This lady is a Psycho!!

diane   June 1st, 2008 10:27 pm ET

we keep hearing from the dnc and others, we have rules and its like a ball game ,you dont change the rules in the middle of the game. well this is not a game, our future depends on the person elected to the white house. the decision shouldn't be determined by a hand full of people in a back room, there never should have been rules made to not count any votes, to punish voters for something that a politician done is crazy, and devides all envolved. we as a nation should vote on how votes are counted, not by the people who clearly has personal motive issues. such as the dnc and superdelagates.

Kathy, Andover   June 1st, 2008 10:27 pm ET

Doing what she does best: Spin, Spin, SPIN!

Ed   June 1st, 2008 10:26 pm ET

It is time to change the politics as usual garbage. We can argue about statistics and numbers all we want. Hillary may be ahead in the popular vote in primary states, but what about the caucus states in which Obama won by large majorities. Do we not count those votes. Wait, I thought it was Hillary that was insisting that we all the votes. Let's not be selective about what we count. That is politics as usual and needs to change.

M   June 1st, 2008 10:25 pm ET

She will not end the campaign until August. My question is this... Do the American people really need another president who breaks rules and changes them to fit his/her needs? All she has proven to me is that she will not play by the rules and that she cannot be trusted. And the campaign continues...

John in KY   June 1st, 2008 10:25 pm ET

OBAMA accepted 59 delegate votes of which 4 were stolen from HILLARY in the Michigan primary to which he wasn't entitled, he took his name OFF the ballot so these votes were not earned by OBAMA, the DNC robbed HILLARY to pay OBAMA!!
DNC is a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tim   June 1st, 2008 10:25 pm ET

This will be over next week.

Obama 08/12!!!

cbrody   June 1st, 2008 10:24 pm ET

SHE IS NOT LEADING IN THE POPULAR VOTE. Only way she could be is if you give Obama 0 in Michigan and don't count cacuses. The Clinton's will blow this party up if they don't get the nomination and it's sad that the Democrats seem to be fine in letting this happen. The Democrats need to show they have back bone and stand up to the Clinton's. If they can't how can we expect them to stand up to the Rebulicans?

Ben   June 1st, 2008 10:24 pm ET

Tell her she is not a democrat since we elect our nominee in democratic party by the number of delegates.
Hillary remains defiant with the reality and she will die that one.
They are Clintons after all!

carlos   June 1st, 2008 10:24 pm ET

Every vote counts, except for the Michigan voters who support Obama.
Every vote counts, except for the 10+ states that held caucuses not primaries most of which Obama won.

The popular vote claim from Hillary is completely WRONG.

You can't just give a candidate ZERO VOTES in one state and claim the popular vote. That is completely WRONG and it shows that Hillary will stop at nothing to blind the people from the truth. Anyone can SAY they won popular vote. But saying it will not make it true.

If you count all the votes. Florida, Michigan, Caucuses and you give Obama the Uncommitted votes in Michigan (which is fair since Michigan was not even suposed to count and Obama was not on the Ballot).

OBAMA HAS WON THE POPULAR VOTE,
OBAMA HAS WON MORE STATES
OBAMA HAS WON MORE PLEDGED DELEGATES
OBAMA HAS WON MORE SUPERDELEGATES

I am sick and tired of hearing Hillary claim the popular vote for weeks now, and all the so called experts and pundits don't even set the facts straight about this. Eveytime a Hillary supporter goes on TV and claims the popular vote, it is the responsibility of the Journalists on TV and on the RADIO, etc., to set the facts straight. I am just a regular everyday person and I seem to know more about the hard numbers than any of the people on TV. Look it Up, "Real Clear Politics"

It is very sad that Hillary has to go as far as misleading people about the votes. It shows what kind of person she is. She can't win fairly so she makes up her own numbers to MISLEAD PEOPLE.

Sorry Hillary, OBAMA has won the popular vote. FAIR & SQUARE.
OBAMA should set the facts straight himself because nobody else will.

Y   June 1st, 2008 10:24 pm ET

I would like to ask Hillary what she has against the residents of Hawaii, Wyoming, Washington, Nebraska, Minnesota, Alaska, Idaho, Kansas, North Dakota, Colorado, Maine, Nevada, Iowa, American Samoa, Virgin Islands and Guam? What rules did these states and territories break that their votes should not be counted?

Tom   June 1st, 2008 10:23 pm ET

Sad to see her continuing to deny reality. This is hurting the party. Obama has won, and it's time for the party to set its sights on November. McCain will give us four more years of Bush. Obama will give us four years of Democratic governance repairing what Bush has done. Let's take the White House back and have it serve the people again!

David, Minnesota   June 1st, 2008 10:23 pm ET

Please Get A Grip!!!!

Joi   June 1st, 2008 10:23 pm ET

Hillary Clinton makes me sick. I used to like her. She has sold her soul to the devil and for what??? It is not all me me me!! It needs to be what is good for the country. If Hillary Clinton gets the nomination in a way that tears apart the party, I will leave the party and vote for McCain.

Mike   June 1st, 2008 10:23 pm ET

237,762 voted uncommitted in Michigan. Those people had a chance to vote for her or not to vote at all. But they didn't. Rather than vote FOR anyone, those 237,762 people actually voted against her. So even if you accept her improbable claim that more people have voted for her than anyone else, it's also true that more people have voted against her than anyone else.

Ken   June 1st, 2008 10:22 pm ET

They all seem crazy and out of reality. They will remain delusional with the clintons till the lights goes down for them on tuesday!

Franky   June 1st, 2008 10:22 pm ET

Good luck on that, LOL!!!!

TF   June 1st, 2008 10:22 pm ET

What is she going to do once Barack reaches the new magic number. Her silly plan of not giving Obama any votes in Michigan didn't work.

Texas Hispanic Primary and Caucus Voter   June 1st, 2008 10:22 pm ET

This is the saddest display of political posturing and creative tallies that I have ever seen. Her claims are based on Obama receiving no votes in Michigan and also preclude the voters in caucus states. Then again, caucus states don't support Hillary, and so she ignores them. She is so dead-set on claiming the nomination for herself, she is willing to twist facts, distort truths, and alter numerical reality. She, along with her puppets, Mr. Wolfson and Mr. Ickes, have no regard for true democracy. Democracy, in their minds, is the voice and will of the people, so long as it gives them the result they want. Obama, despite his humanistic flaws, has won more states and thusly, more delegates. Any argument Hillary makes to the contrary falls short of that reality. Obama has won the nomination. No amount of screaming, protesting, crying, or shouting "Denver" will change that.

And quite frankly, any Democrat so embittered that they would vote for McCain over Obama is an outright idiot.

Albert Tonik   June 1st, 2008 10:21 pm ET

A solution to the who should run.

Clinton should run for President with Aboma as Vice President. Then if the win, at the end of the second year, they switch positions. Then after 4 years the primary votes will deside which of the two should run for the next 4 years. However they will not be aloud to persuade the voters. The voters already know which they prefer. Therefore this vote can be done in all the states at the same time.

S.BOATMAN   June 1st, 2008 10:21 pm ET

TO LIE. . . OR NOT LIE? THIS IS NOT A QUESTION FOR HILLARY!

Go Obama!   June 1st, 2008 10:20 pm ET

The media is driving the story line for Hillary. Let's see, Obama is going to have a victory rally on tuesday. All these talking heads need to tell us the truth and stop pushing hillary down our throats. She is toast and should bow out now!

Brett   June 1st, 2008 10:20 pm ET

She can only be considered the popular vote winner if the results from Michigan (where Obama was not on the ballot) are counted for her and Obama is awarded no votes from that state.

Both scenarios don't include results from the non-binding primaries in Idaho and Nebraska.

And don't forget that her popular vote count also excludes Washington, Nevada, Iowa, and Maine in their entirety.

Count every vote, indeed. Ha.

brent   June 1st, 2008 10:20 pm ET

this is an honest question...can someone please explain why it is "intellectually honest" for Clinton to claim the popular vote, in estimates that include Michigan, when Obama gets NO votes attributed to him because he was not on the ballot during that primary. It seems very propagandistic for her and her supporters to support this argument and really turns me, as an independent off to her cause.

imawake   June 1st, 2008 10:20 pm ET

So, CNN thinks that the "...common voters think they're in charge..."
Watch us in November if Obama gets the nod!

Paul   June 1st, 2008 10:20 pm ET

Hillary can't even run a stealth campaign for 2012 right.

Jane, NC   June 1st, 2008 10:20 pm ET

Sen. Clinton continues to run an admirable and well-organized campaign. Despite what the Obama-biased news shows and chattering pundits would try to tell their viewers to think, she is one of the most respected women in the country. This race has been a virtual tie. She has a much better chance in the general election. Surely the "superdelegates" will cast their sacred vote for her, for the good of the Democratic Party and the country. To hand the nomination to a less qualified man would be a disgrace.

ao   June 1st, 2008 10:19 pm ET

go to real clear politics and see for yourself people.

pittsburgh bob   June 1st, 2008 10:19 pm ET

clinton cannot claim votes won in michigan. we seem to be glossing over the fact that the DNC asked all the candidates to remove his or her name from the ballot as it is not necessary to have it there to be in the general election. Florida required the name be on the ballot. So the abiding candidates (Obama, Edwards, Richardson) complied while Clinton, always the master schemester, left it there for show. i do feel sorry that these voters feel "left out" but the rules are the rules.

OBAMA / another democrat 08

Jtorre   June 1st, 2008 10:19 pm ET

Hillary is wasting we Democrats time while John McSame gets a free ride. It's time for Hillary tio end this farce!

Mike   June 1st, 2008 10:19 pm ET

If the democratic primaries where held like the general election, Hillary would be the winner already.

Obama as the nominee is a McCain victory.

Hillary as the nominee is a Hillary victory.

Hillary 08

Terry   June 1st, 2008 10:18 pm ET

I will write in Hillary if I have to in November. No way I'm voting for the Koolaid man. His supporters on these comments seem to be a bunch of haters with most of their posts. Just like Obama's church preachers. O wait. He left that church today. 20 yrs too late. And many of his supporters fail to realize that all these contests so far have been about the Democratic primaries for the nomination. Remember Dukakis? Remember Kerry? They won the Democratic nomination but lost in November... So too will Nobama.

NO HE CAN'T! And come when November if he's the nominee and loses, don't blame Hillary, blame yourselves for picking the weaker candidate against McCain.

Fed-up already   June 1st, 2008 10:18 pm ET

Never before have I seen something more ludicrous as the Democratic process of securing a delegate. What message does this give to the Nation? Greed, Power Hungriness, Selfishness is taking priority over the Good of the Country.

Where else in the World can someone blatantly attack a fellow candidate on Race, Ethnicity, Middle Name for crying out loud and get away with it?

Forget using a past President as co-campaigner and possibly giving him a shot at FOUR terms in office! America you take the cake, instead of pulling together and contesting the Republicans the Democrats are too busy fighting each other.

renee   June 1st, 2008 10:18 pm ET

So what she won in Puerto Rico which can't even vite in the General Election. She still has lost and should move on. It's over.

Mike   June 1st, 2008 10:18 pm ET

No matter who wins, Dems lose in November. Even though it will be a small percentage, too many people will not vote for the other candidate.

It seems a larger percentage of Hillary supporters will not support Obama, but there's still enough Obama supporters that will not vote for Hillary. It doesn't make much sense as both candidates have practically the same goals, even if their path to those goals differs. McCain has completely different goals. The stubborness of these supporters will ensure 4 more years in Iraq, right-wing supreme court justices, and continued tax cuts for the wealthies Americans.

Poor form dems.

S.BOATMAN   June 1st, 2008 10:18 pm ET

I ONCE SHOOK THE HAND OF HILLARY CLINTON. . . . I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO WASH IT ENOUGH TO THIS VERY DAY!

skylark   June 1st, 2008 10:18 pm ET

Who is Schneider and why has he been allowed to take over this board?
Obviously a Clinton sycophant (or is it psychophant?)
Puleez!
Trying to stay on topic here is impossible.
But here goes:
I imagine that Mr. Obama gave up his church to spare the congregation the many death threats they have had since his run for nomination. Not to mention the death threats to his family. The Clinton supporters posting to these boreds(spelling intentional) have attacked Mr. Obama since the beginning in every way possible.
Mr Obama has had to defend himself and his family from brutal attacks by the Clintons, Pseudo Christians (purveyors of hate) and has remained strong and civil througout. This takes guts. If we didn't need this kind of calm in an increasingly violent world I would almost hope he SPARED the task. I am very afraid FOR him and his family.
He has never instigated an attack on Hillary and you all know it. The negativity was spawned by HER.
But we need him. Our next President will most certainly have to be CREDIBLE. Neither Clinton or McCain can accomplish this. Surely you who are threatening to vote for McCain out of spite are not so blind that you cannot see this. If not, then you are satisfied with the status quo of having every piece of your lives dictated by the GOP.
They have all but ruined us. Get over yourselves. Please!
Read some news outside these politcal pages.
I was raised a Christian but if what I am reading here is any indication of what Christianity is the I renounce it. This is not what I was taught. By the way, Jesus was not white. He wasn't even a Christian.

Phyllis in Tx   June 1st, 2008 10:17 pm ET

I don't understand why people keep trying to say Popular Vote. I thought is was all about delegates. This is what Clinton said in the beginning was it was all about the delegates. Now she wants to change that as well. Enough already

Obama 08!!

Phil   June 1st, 2008 10:17 pm ET

Wow. That's counting Michigan – who wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan? That's tricky Hilllary.
Drop out. Unite the Dems. OBAMA 08

Tess from One Earth, One World, One People   June 1st, 2008 10:17 pm ET

No more moderation CNN every single time I post!!!!

Of course the Queen of Spin wants everyone in Oz to follow her yellow brick road to ummm let's see...NOWHERE! Talk about needing a reality check!. How many of us really believe that 203 super delegates are going to now run to support Hillary after all she has done to rip this party apart?

She is so transparent! She wants to make her case to the SDs that she is more electable. Then when she is within 100 delegates, she is going to challenge the seating of Michigan delegates and try to steal the delegates from Obama. DON'T FALL FOR IT SDs nor Credentials Committee members... You heard it here first!!!! HRC will stop at nothing to tear the Democratic Party apart. Don't let her get one more thing that she hasn't earned and DOESN'T DESERVE!!! No more divisiveness in the Democratic Party – HRC is too polarizing in true Republican fashion! We don't need one more minute of this crap! Not one more!!!! PLEASE SDs – FINISH THIS!!!! The Democratic Party, America, and the WORLD has had enough of Clinton show but we can't turn it off no matter how hard we try--SDs HOLD THE REMOTE to this nightmare show. TURN OFF "FANTASY ISLAND" FOR HILL AND BILL...or is it more like "LOST"-the real version????

Observer   June 1st, 2008 10:16 pm ET

The idea that CNN is continuing to also charge that HRC is leading in popular vote is ridiculous. All caucus states count too and that should be reflected. Why does this channel continue to mislead the public.?

Rashawn the leftist like President Obama   June 1st, 2008 10:16 pm ET

Are you kidding me? Yea lets give the nomination to someone who won less states and less delegates

Marie in California   June 1st, 2008 10:15 pm ET

Go Hillary! I'm with you all the way to Denver! So are a bunch of my friends!

Hillary or McCain – 2008

WISCONSIN GIRL FOR HILLARY   June 1st, 2008 10:15 pm ET

You bet Hillary should win. She had delegates stolen from her and if BO were what he claims to be he would give them back. She does have the most popular vote and she is gaining. I cannot believe that BO thinks this is a great way to win. He was on the Florida ballad so he was not so innocent, yet he goes wa, wa when it comes to the Michigan ballad. He had his choice there but he didn't do it, so why is Hillary being punished. We think it should be the other way around. He didn't have the foresight to see i front of him, so its not Hillary's fault. WHAT A CROCK THIS IS, AND ITS NOT CONSTITUTIONAL EITHER.

nannie bouroughs, Kenosha, WI   June 1st, 2008 10:14 pm ET

Yes, and IF the Jr. Senator from IL had campaigned in MI as Senator "Uncommitted," I could see maybe, perhaps, possibly, giving him some delegates from MI. However, Senator Great Judgment did not do that. He instead paid cash to have his name removed from the ballot in MI entirely. [A very poor strategy.]

Following this great series of events Senator Obama DID then campaign in BOTH MI & FL, violating the DNC rule which prohibited him from doing so. He targeted MI & FL with both National TV & radio ads.

The punishment for campaigning under these circumstances is spelled out very clearly by the DNC Rules: the candidate who campaigns is NOT entitled to receive any delegates from those states.

Yes, Hillary is ahead in the popular vote and she would be a whole lot closer in delegates IF the RBC & the DNC could somehow be persuaded to follow its own rules!

But, I guess if you are a minority candidate, those rules do not apply to you... just ask Donna Brazile!

dave   June 1st, 2008 10:14 pm ET

YOU GO GIRL!!

writeinhillary.org

S.BOATMAN   June 1st, 2008 10:14 pm ET

HILLARY IS NOT WINNING THE POPULAR VOTE! NO MATTER HOW SHE SPINS IT! SHE IS NOT WINNING THE MAJORITY OF SWING STATES! SHE IS NOT MORE ELECTABLE! SHE IS NOT WINNING IN THE GENERAL ELECTION EITHER BECAUSE IT HAS NOT STARTED YET! SHE IS HOWEVER WINNING IN THE CATEGORY OF SPIN, LIES TOLD, PANDERING, AND NUMBER OF PANT SUITS WORN! ENOUGH SAID!

BettyBoop   June 1st, 2008 10:14 pm ET

I do not understand how the delegates pick the president when they are going for Obama yet Clinton has the popular vote...the vote of the people....are the delegates not the ones that the American people voted into theilr prospective offices....then shouldn't they be representing the people who voted for them....the people want Clinton so why are the delegates going with Obama....He had no rites to the delegate in Michigan...he was not even on the ballot so therefore is not entitled to any of the deleigates...they should go to the people who were on the ballots and if they are no longer in the race, well so be it...they are still entitled to those delligates...not Obama!! Take away those 59 deligates and he will not have such a lead anymore....he should only be entitled to what he earned...I feel he is a hypocrite who tells people what they want to hear and not what he truly believes...his tactics are underhanded as shown in his senatorial race in Chicago....what happened to his backing of his minister....remember the uncle in everyones famaily...he is the uncle in his family....well how quickly he sold that uncle down the river when it did not look good for him....will he do the same thing with our country....people wake up....before you end up with a change you did not bargain for!!!

June   June 1st, 2008 10:14 pm ET

If Hillary truly believes that every vote counts, why is she discounting Caucus votes? Thank God it's over! Now all those truly democratic democrats can get on with putting the USA back on the map by forgetting the rhetoric and voting for what they truly want for themselves, their children and their future. If they can't do that, then they deserve more of the past 8 years. It's not the trials you've been through that make or break you, it's how you deal with it.

The US abolishes century old clinton dynasty   June 1st, 2008 10:13 pm ET

helloo
we know that Blitzer already crowned her the winner of the Democratic nominaiton and if not that one
then the independent clintonista party...

no matter what she and cnn blizter boy says , she is not the nomineee

we have our nominee and we will celebrate next week ..........

the delegates and superdelegates have seen the so called billary in her best act...................the GOP act........

ronald   June 1st, 2008 10:13 pm ET

GO CHEATER! 2+2 = 6 RIGHT HILL

Itoldyouso   June 1st, 2008 10:13 pm ET

What no one talks about for whatever reason is that Hillary Clinton is the most despised candidate to run for office inj decades. Can't she get it thru her egotistical mind that 51% of Democrats, 75% of Independents, and 100% of Republicans cannot stand her and just wish that she would disappear never to be seen or heard from again?

After further review,Texas.   June 1st, 2008 10:13 pm ET

What surprises me most is the number of people that consider lying to the electorate is perfectly acceptable as long as its their favorite doing the lying.

Herman in LA   June 1st, 2008 10:13 pm ET

What a shame....

Marge Hibbing Mn   June 1st, 2008 10:12 pm ET

With here tearing McCain up in the polls and the wimpy cry baby not even able to beat him, why shouldn't she. After all cry baby had to have the DNC give him votes he didn't earn...you know like in Michigan and Florida...whine and cry boy what a piece of crap that the good old boys and the zonked out youths think would make a good president. Is it because they don't want someone that is smart capable and about to do the job...so that's why they want obama....

John   June 1st, 2008 10:12 pm ET

So the only reason she thinks she won the popular vote is because Obama wasn't on the Michigan ballot?

Eugene   June 1st, 2008 10:12 pm ET

If I was caught in a big lie, I wouldn't buy advertising space to brag about it. And the Obama campaign is saying nothing about Puerto Rican votes not counting in November, or Operation KAOS votes for Clinton padding her total by a few hundred thousand, or all the democrats now favoring Obama in the polls who voted for Clinton in California and other states weeks ago. It's time for her to let it go (after Tuesday) while she only a little behind.

Stu   June 1st, 2008 10:12 pm ET

The Clinton supporter comments I listened to after the DNC meeting made me ashamed to be a Democrat. It was clear that some of those quoted in the Huffington Post are voting for Hillary Clinton not because she is a woman, but because Barack Obama is Black. Their openly racist comments belie any contention that they believe in what the Democratic Party stands for and it is clear that they want a different set of rules applied to Hillary Clinton than would be applicable to any other candidate. Those that were screaming about the false claims of the radical right about Obama's alleged gay relationship, his use of cocaine and that he is a secret Muslim make me want to puke. If those so-called Democrats vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee, then I for one hope McCain wins. We'll see how it goes when he packs the Supreme Court with more right-wing idelogues who reverse a woman's right to choose, cut back on the right to sue for gender and race bias and continues to give this country away to corporate pigs, the insurance and drug industries and the religious right. Even if Clinton had gotten everything she wanted out of the DNC, she would still not have the lead in delegates and, therefore, could not be the nominee. Oh, but I forgot. She and these neo-fascist supporters want some other set of rules to apply based on popular vote. Last time I checked, it is the delegates who choose the nominee. And if you don't like that system, then instead of screaming like a bunch of sycophantic morons, get the rules changed. That's how a democracy works.

Patricia   June 1st, 2008 10:11 pm ET

Clintons can never claim popular vote since they refuse to count the caucus states and those voters count too. I am sure the superdelegates are aware of that.

I just hope that Obama gets enough delegates and superdelegates that he can give back the 59 MI delegates so there is no controversy. It is done.

Shirley, Silicon Valley, CA   June 1st, 2008 10:11 pm ET

What about the votes in those cacus states?

We all know Hillary cares only the votes that she can TWIST to make her look good!

What a shame to have such a person to run in this highest position in this country!

Hillary is ABSURD and NO BRAIN!

amtFresno,CA   June 1st, 2008 10:10 pm ET

Next we will hear that you have declared yourself the Pres. of U.S. Self appointed! Unbelieveable! YOU ARE NOT ELECTABLE, YOU ARE A NUT CASE !!!!

Seth   June 1st, 2008 10:10 pm ET

Clinton repeatedly makes claims based on her lofty principle that every vote should count. Yet, strangely, when she counts the votes, she doesn't count the popular votes from caucus states. That is at least misleading, and at most an outright lie.

Dale Duncan   June 1st, 2008 10:10 pm ET

Obama doesn't have enough delegates to win. Hillary doesn't either. So, then, why does the media continue to say it is over?

Go Hillary! Keep fighting!

Robert   June 1st, 2008 10:10 pm ET

I just want to know one thing. How is she paying for this ad when she's $30 million in the hole?

R.O.B.   June 1st, 2008 10:10 pm ET

I just hope she campaigns this hard for Obama after he gets the nomination.

The truth   June 1st, 2008 10:09 pm ET

It shows that the people that vote for Hillary are less educated, and it shows.

GO OBAMA 08

California Girl   June 1st, 2008 10:09 pm ET

You go Hillary! Don't give up. Nobody really knows who Obama is. Keep fighting with all your strength. Your supporters are behind you. You are the better candidate to restore our country.

Hillary keep fighting for us. You are an inspiration!

Valery Simonian   June 1st, 2008 10:08 pm ET

In my opinion this ad just shows that Clinton is trying to scare the party's leaders: If they will not give her the VP ticket (she knows that she can't be the candidate for president) then she will have grounds for going as a independent candidate. Her democrat supporters will follow her – in this case Obama would have problems in November.
However, this will not scare those who see the whole picture. Obama has more ground then any democratic candidate in modern history. A huge number of independents and moderates are ready to support him. A joined ticket with Clinton would drive them away from Obama, because Clinton is not about change. Clinton stands by old-fashioned politics. I am independent and I would never support Clinton in any election. I read many comments on different websites and saw that a huge majority of people recognised the nature of this lady. Within those comments I saw those who voted for Clinton 3-4 months ago now given the chance to vote for her now would not have done so. She could not win anything after her campaign, which gave us a great possibility to recognise her better than before. Her money worked against her. Those ladies who were yelling at the Rules Committee meeting about going to McSame in reality were following the same politics as a this ad: to scare the party leaders. I do not think that real members of the democratic party have lost their mind to the extent of going to vote for McCain.

Terry   June 1st, 2008 10:07 pm ET

hahahaha...oh Hillary your campaigne takes the cake! Never have I seen the bar moved more times, it really is quite hilarious. I give the Obama campaign truck loads of credit for puting up with this fantasy from the Clinton campaign. Can you say Baghdad Bob?

Eugene   June 1st, 2008 10:07 pm ET

Count every vote that you think counts. Destroy everything and everybody else.

Tony   June 1st, 2008 10:07 pm ET

Her argument is disingenuous at best... at best. Do you really want to support a person that WILL lie to you?

Tobias   June 1st, 2008 10:05 pm ET

It's all the way to the convention. Hell yeah, she's pressing on.

Caryn, WDC   June 1st, 2008 10:05 pm ET

Hillary FIRST
Party second

Hillary FIRST
Party second

Hillary FIRST
Party second

Hillary FIRST
Party second

Had Enough   June 1st, 2008 10:05 pm ET

Negative and self centered Hillary, please STOP!!!

Jason   June 1st, 2008 10:05 pm ET

She talks of disenfranchisement, while she is already disenfranchising the uncommitted voters that would have voted for Barack in Michigan.

But an untruthful woman!

Jay in Chicago   June 1st, 2008 10:05 pm ET

It's finally out there in the open. In Hillary's victory speech today she made the flat-out statement that she's doing better in the polls than is Obama.

That is a lie, completely untrue.

One of the most credible and objective poll number crunching web sites, Real Clear Politics, has collected the most reputable polls out there of the critical swing states.

And here's what they show.

They agree that both Clinton and Obama beat McCain in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Minnesota, New Jersey, Washington and California.

They agree that McCain beats either Clinton or Obama in Missouri, New Mexico, Nevada, Michigan, New Hampshire, Virginia, North Carolina and Georgia.

In how many states does Clinton beats McCain but McCain beats Obama? One, Florida, with its 27 electoral votes.

In how many states does Obama beat McCain but McCain beats Clinton? FOUR!!! Those four states are Colorado, Iowa, Oregon and Wisconsin. And guess what? Those four states carry a total of 33 electoral votes, yes, 33. Six more than Clinton's total from Florida.

The overall Electoral College count at the moment for the two candidates versus McCain? Clinton has 261 to McCain's 277. Obama has 267 to McCain's 271.

So it's absolutely untrue that Clinton, in any way, manner, shape or form, is a stronger candidate than Obama. Quite the reverse: Obama is slightly stronger than Clinton.

I really hope the Obama people stumble across this post, read it, and double-check it for themselves. I really hope that the rest of us note this fact, repeat it endlessly in all the blog threads, and eventually manage to bring it to the attention of the campaign.

Obama is the strongest Dem candidate at the moment, according to the most objective evidence, unquestionably and indisputably. Clinton's claims to the contrary are simply false; there's no other way of putting it. She's counting on people not checking the facts for themselves. We need to call her on this, particularly with the superdelegates.

Yes, we can,

aware   June 1st, 2008 10:04 pm ET

Clinton 08 the smart choice! :)

This is the scariest election I have ever been involved in. As a former Canadian, I thought that Trudeau mania was a problem. He was a part of the Illuminati but this Black Liberation Theology candidate Obama is much worse. Black Liberation Theology is anti white, anti American and ironically keeps black Americans in a position of victimhood that is soul destroying. :(

This is the tank Barack and Michelle have been marinating in for 20 years. The inclusive, so called progressive Liberals are so uninformed and the young first time voters are so much a part of the post-postmodern in the moment no absolutes therefore no ethics/moral code or values that they just go for the love affair with the lying charismatic of the moment! :(

The Democrats have totally lost it!

If Obama is the Dem nominee, McCain is America's only hope!

Bill Depp   June 1st, 2008 10:04 pm ET

the rules are whoever gets the magic # of delegates....if neither get it then it is wide open...rule is not who has most delegates but who gets the number first.

Alexis   June 1st, 2008 10:03 pm ET

Billary is so desperate to cling to the possibility of power that she will come up with any kind of "phony" numbers to claim she is winning.

Ryan P.   June 1st, 2008 10:03 pm ET

Maybe Hillary can make my vote in Canada count. If she can't find an exit strategy for her own campaign, you folks supporting Hillary should be very concerned about Iraq.

charleychaplin   June 1st, 2008 10:03 pm ET

I think Sen. Hillary Clinton should take an example from Sen. Joe Liberman, and run for president as an independent. She can get $80 million in public financing for her campaign. She will likely defeat both John McCain and Barak Obama!

Math Major   June 1st, 2008 10:03 pm ET

Why is Hillary proclaiming to have the popular vote? Why is the media going along with this mathematical blunder. Hillary does not have the popular vote because she has not won more votes. I guess if you use the new math which is to say, one does not count any caucuses won by Obama and you give her the full votes from Michigan and Florida then maybe she does. The truth is she did not win all the Florida and Michigan votes. Hillary supporters are naive or truly uneducated.

Shirley, Silicon Valley, CA   June 1st, 2008 10:02 pm ET

This is plainly ABSURD! Who is she FOOLING?

Tess from One Earth, One World, One People   June 1st, 2008 10:02 pm ET

Hillary, You are the weakest link. Goodbye! Obama 2008/2012!

Mark, Portland, OR   June 1st, 2008 10:02 pm ET

Hillary's argument: "I'm winning the popular vote if you only count the contests I think are worthwhile!"

Abhi   June 1st, 2008 10:02 pm ET

Way to keep lying to the people Hillary...

K   June 1st, 2008 10:02 pm ET

It's amazing Hillary Clinton is trying every trick in the book to win. I believe if she truly cared about the Democratic party and uniting it, she would gracefully bow out and accept defeat. It's apparent to me and everyone else, Hillary desire to win is for selfish reasons only. She is trying to get in the history books, by any means necessary (even to the point of "almost" threatening Obama). It's sad to see someone who honestly believe this is owed to them and refused to listen to the voice of the people or the delegates, that we want to get behind our canidiate and win the house in November. I believe she has plans on taking this to the convention in November (it makes me wonder if Obama was a white canidiate, would we be going through this....NOT). Hillary we do not want you to be our nominee! GET OVER YOURSELF!! WITH YOUR CURRENT ATTITUDE I HAVE NO DOUBT YOU WILL DO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE MORE HARM THAN GOOD! WITH YOU IT WILL BE POLITICS AND SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS AS USUALLY!!

Caryn, WDC   June 1st, 2008 10:01 pm ET

I'm glad that she's making the popular vote pitch.

Now there's no way that Obama will pick her as VP and she can fade into obscurity and watch as we take the White House.

Rob   June 1st, 2008 10:01 pm ET

Desperate woman – desperate family -History will not look favorably on her

janine   June 1st, 2008 10:01 pm ET

Why isn't the HRC being called for voter FRAUD? they USED and misled their supporters for fund raising and to save face! Is there not a law or regulation to check this type of behavior and activity?

Clinton and campaign team of two should be ashamed. From reviewing blogs since February, her supporters trully beileved that she was ahead, that she was being cheated, and that there is promise for her to win the nomination-sans the RFK scenario-

I am an Obama supporter, however, after watching republicans exploit certain groups for short term gain, and because they are fellow democrats, this issue should not be ignored.

Sick and Tired   June 1st, 2008 10:00 pm ET

Hey CNN,

Would you stop it already! This race is over! If you just ignore her, maybe she will go away.

teesha   June 1st, 2008 9:59 pm ET

Again she goes again, when is she gone stop...

Lori/MI   June 1st, 2008 9:59 pm ET

I hope that the super delegates read this story and decide to back Obama before Tuesday's primaries. Hillary has to be stopped before she she takes this to the convention. She should not get the nomination with the popular vote. Barack ran a better campaign and will have the delegates. He will be able to win in November if she gets behind his campaign and convinces most of her supporters that WE NEED to beat McCain in the fall.

DC   June 1st, 2008 9:59 pm ET

Hillary should drop out of the race and endorse Barack Obama. 'Nuff said. It's time the Democrats go after Bush III.

Kim   June 1st, 2008 9:58 pm ET

What bothers me is that Hillary claims the lead with out factoring in caucusses. Even more so is the gutless sitting on the fence by the delegates. Pick one either one have some guts, if you get it wrong you probably new in your heart the right answer.

If you are a legislature hoping to hold out for pork PLEASE DON"T RUN FOR OFFICE AGAIN!

Eric in MN   June 1st, 2008 9:58 pm ET

CNN should check Clinton's math before blindly reporting ths story without any actual journalism being done. There are some convenient omissions that cannot be allowed to stand, including how caucuses are counted. Most importantly, DELGATES are what determines the nominee, not the popular vote. QUIT TRYING TO MOVE THE GOALPOSTS – follow the rules and bow out gracefully once you have lost.

Jacob S, NJ   June 1st, 2008 9:58 pm ET

How many caucus states does that total not include as well? When last I checked Iowa, Maine, Nevada, and Washington results weren't included by Hillary when she claims to be the popular vote winner.

malia   June 1st, 2008 9:58 pm ET

I will never vote democrat again

when I voted in Florida in 2000 my vote and my family votes where stolen by the Republican Party , this time, it was stolen by my own party, the Democratic party, I will never vote as a democrat again.

Hillary or McCAIN

Greg FL.   June 1st, 2008 9:57 pm ET

She's riding this jet into the ground.

And to those who say they will vote for McCain if Hillary doesn't win. You just remember the military in Iraq and the dead and those that will die if McCain gets to continue his 100 year war. You think long and hard about those soldiers, before you cast that vote.

Pistoff   June 1st, 2008 9:57 pm ET

NADER '08

Hillary-who   June 1st, 2008 9:57 pm ET

Please help us to put some senses into this woman's head. Hillbilly is delusional.

Dennis   June 1st, 2008 9:56 pm ET

What? The caucuses don't count?

gary   June 1st, 2008 9:56 pm ET

What is the since of having primaries etc. if the peoples votes dont count. The popular vote should decide the nominee.The Super Deligates are all fixed to go to O.B. even though HRC is a better canidate to win in Nov.

Keeping hopeful I'll remain a democrat   June 1st, 2008 9:56 pm ET

Obama could have supported efforts for a revote-

Republican for Obama   June 1st, 2008 9:56 pm ET

Hillary doesn't know how to bow out gracefully. This will go all the way to the convention and I predict a fighting, divided party to the end. Sad...just when I had reason to finally vote for a Democrat...

Sally   June 1st, 2008 9:55 pm ET

O – Oh for heaven's sake get out now
B – Before ALL your lies and shady dealings come to light
A – Ask yourself WHY your wife is only proud to be American now
you are running for President
M – Michelle, just as much a liability as your "wonderful church"
A – Accept the fact that the majority of Americans, and the world do
NOT want you as President – you are a loose canon, and we need
stability – your "pastors" show your true colours.
G – God bless America
O – Obama – disappear.

Hillary, give it ALL you've got, you WILL win the nomination – common sense will prevail. Obama would make Bush look like a rocket scientist. Obama – take up golf, or something less dangerous, running the US is something YOU ARE NOT EXPERIENCED ENOUGH FOR. Look what has happened to Oprah since she sided with you. How the mighty have fallen.

Dan   June 1st, 2008 9:55 pm ET

This is why she will not be the Democratic nominee. Clinton Enron's math count. There is a price to pay for not being honest with the American people and the Clinton's are paying for it now.

Obama 08!!!!

VA republican   June 1st, 2008 9:55 pm ET

the democrats do not need the GOP to destroy them since they do a great job destroying themselves. just a question to HRC blind supporters: if MI and FL were won by Obama, will Clinton still ask for the votes to be counted???? if the nomination is stolen from Obama and given to HRC then I would ask Obama to seriously consider running as an independent. I am sure he will win. i have no respect for HRC, her supporters or the DNC for allowing this to happen. the Dems keep crying about the 2000 elections and now they are trying to do the same to their own self by stealing the nomination from the rightful winner. HRC supporters better start practicing democracy themselves before breaching democracy to others. or democracy rules do not apply unless HRC is the winner. HRC accusing Obama of being an elitest, look in a mirror lady before you make such a statement. I am shocked by the fact that there is a great number of people in this country who are still willing to defend and support a liar. CNN, whether you publish or not, it is enough to listen to Wolf Blitzer BS to know where your loyalty is.

Keeping hopeful I'll remain a democrat   June 1st, 2008 9:55 pm ET

WTG Hillary- Your supporters will not give up hope. If you are not treated fairly by the Media and the DNC and the unfair distribution of delegates causes your chance to be president and Obama does not ask Hillary to be the VP- Please urge Hillary to run Independant.

Wilmoth Nichols   June 1st, 2008 9:54 pm ET

I am a registered Democrat, I attended my precinct caucus in January, where I was for Bill Richardson. When he wasn't viable, I stood for John Edwards. At the Union County, IA. convention, where I was a delegate, I stood for Barack Obama.
I am very disappointed that Senator Hillary Clinton insists on counting the votes that she received in Michigan. In my opinion, she is being very obnoxious about wanting to count them, when Obama was not on the ballot. If she gets the nomination, I don't think I want to vote for her.

Paulette, Cincinnati, Ohio   June 1st, 2008 9:54 pm ET

This election is as fixed as they come. What is wrong with the world today. WAKE UP AMERICA. Don't vote Obama. I would not sleep at night wondering who he is going to become budies with next. Vote HILLARY '08 OR MCCAIN '08

John Smith   June 1st, 2008 9:53 pm ET

Please give the remaining votes from those states to Hillary, and let the Superdelegates duke this one out. This way, Hillary will feel like she won all the last set of states!!! Bravo. Maybe this decision will appease Hillary and her supporters so that she stops fighting!

I guess that if the picture was the opposite that Hillary was in the lead, this nation would have forced this young biracial man to drop out of the race for the high majesty! What would they have said of Obama if he had tried to change the "rules?" Certainly, Obama's parents did not teach him to cheat or change rules in the middle of the game!

Bryan   June 1st, 2008 9:53 pm ET

This ought to be very interesting over the next few days. As much as I was a Clinton supporter, I really have to ask myself–what on earth is she thinking? Unless something tragic happens to Obama, does she really think that the remaining supers are going to flock to her?

The biggest problem here is that Clinton thought she was going to be Eva Peron by this point, waving and smiling with that nom in the bag. As much as there is continued speculation of how and when Clinton is going to bow out, I just can't see it...

No Vote For Obama   June 1st, 2008 9:53 pm ET

If WE can't have Hillary as President, then WE will vote for Mccain!

FrankSmith   June 1st, 2008 9:52 pm ET

Please give the remaining votes from those states to Hillary, and let the Superdelegates duke this one out. This way, Hillary will feel like she won all the last set of states!!! Bravo. Maybe this decision will appease Hillary and her supporters so that she stops fighting!

I guess that if the picture was the opposite that Hillary was in the lead, this nation would have forced this young biracial man to drop out of the race for the high majesty! What would they have said of Obama if he had tried to change the "rules?" Certainly, Obama's parents did not teach him to cheat or change rules in the middle of the game!

VA republican   June 1st, 2008 9:52 pm ET

the democrats do not need the GOP to destoy them since they do a great job destroying themselves. just couple of questions to HRC blind supporters: if MI and FL were won by Obama, will Clinton still ask for the votes to be counted???? if the nomination is stolen from Obama and given to HRC then I would ask Obama to seriously consider running as an independent. I am sure he will win. i have no respect for HRC, her supporters or the DNC for allowing this to happen. the Dems keep crying about the 2000 elections and now they are trying to do the same to their own self by stealing the nomination from the rightful winner. HRC supporters better start practicing democracy themselves before breaching democracy to others. or democracy rules do not apply uless HRC is the winner. HRC accusing Obama of being an elitest, look in a mirror lady before you make such a statement. I am shocked by the fact that there is a great number of people in this country who are still willing to defend and support a liar. CNN, whether you publish or not, it is enough to listen to Wolf Blitzer BS to know where your loyalty is.

Sue in Florida   June 1st, 2008 9:52 pm ET

I've never witnessed a primary that was so intent on not allowing the
people to speak. One thing for sure, Hillary will have fought all odds
against a biased press and inside politics. Obama will prove to
be such a disappointment. So sad.

Nathan Johnson   June 1st, 2008 9:52 pm ET

My daughter wants to attend Wellesley College after high school, but I am skeptical now. If Wellesley woman are unable to do math any better than one of their most famous graduates then...
Pack it up Billary you are done.
Hasta Luego.
Auf Wiedersen.
In other words goodbye.

Luke   June 1st, 2008 9:51 pm ET

I cannot believe how stupid Clinton's campaign is being. I was willing to volunteer for her if she was the nominee, and I still am if it somehow comes to that, but this is really beyond the pale. The time for her to get behind Obama's campaign was weeks ago

Mark   June 1st, 2008 9:51 pm ET

Does Hillary have a license to lie? How is she calculating total votes the candidates got? People who voted in Caucuses, aren't they legitimate voters?

If she is so deceptive in counting votes here, I believe, she will exceed President Bush, in fabricating the facts, if somehow she could get in WH, which I don't think will happen.

God save us from Hillary's lies.

Andrew   June 1st, 2008 9:51 pm ET

IF you count the votes for Hillary in the unscationed Michigan Primary

IF you count Puerto Rico (who don't vote in the General Election)

IF you don't count Caucus states. (who do vote in the GE)

IF IF IF.

If Clinton would have run a clean campaign and not thought this was entitled to her, she would be in better shape.

sylvia   June 1st, 2008 9:51 pm ET

...keep going. hillary....you should have already been the nominee..you would have been if fla and mi had been counted correctly...obama is riding in on a lie and he is not right for us now....too many other probs to add michelle to the mix and o's scarey past friends and muslim supporters/////

Patrick   June 1st, 2008 9:50 pm ET

To all Clinton supporters that say they are voting for McCain... well if your going to vote for the republican candidate... then in 2012 us Obama supporters will just vote for the republican candidate as well.

Let's have eight more years of all this stuff.... the country could really use 15 trillion in debt and a couple of more wars.

Texas Democrat John   June 1st, 2008 9:50 pm ET

I think the Super Delegates should consider the fact that the majority of the United States will be hispanic the next time we elect a president. Hispanics are largely in support of Hillary Clinton, and I would hate to see them start voting Republican.

popular vote mystery   June 1st, 2008 9:50 pm ET

Hillary,

Does "popular vote" mean anything when the CAUCUS states are excluded? Even when only primary votes are counted, your vote counts are still less than your opponent's. But of course, you will, knowingly and deliberately and consciously, use the incorrect number for your ad.

Press on, Hillary. You make yourself look more pathetic.

Time for a woman president is here, but you are not the one.

I, as a woman, would have liked to see Hillary become a president. However, I no longer wish that because she showed, throughout the campaign, that she does not possess character required for a leader.

Nowhere Man   June 1st, 2008 9:50 pm ET

My God, who cares?! Hasn't her campaign figured out yet that the most delegates will determine the nominee? Haven't they been paying attention since this began? I don't think so, which is why they've run a campaign of the biggest political CHOKE ever! Two big "late in the game" blowouts in WVa and KY are what put her back in it, not to mention Limbaugh's Operation Chaos which won her TX and OH, or she would have been done back in March.

These political hacks and gang of thugs have no right getting anywhere near the White House.

Obama '08!

james   June 1st, 2008 9:50 pm ET

Hillary should be happy with what she got from the DNC. It was more than she deserved.

By the way, has she declared Puerto Rico a key swing state yet?

I just wanted to say this campaign has really lowered my expectations of the intelligence of politicians and people who support them.

Dexter   June 1st, 2008 9:50 pm ET

Only problem is she doesn't lead in the popular vote.

Oh wait... She does if you disenfranchise all the voters who participated in the legal and democratic caucus states.

She wouldn't want to disenfranchise voters, would she?

Mike from Westchester   June 1st, 2008 9:48 pm ET

Despite all her claims, she still does not have the popular vote.

With Puerto Rico (which I would like to point out, is not one of the 50 states), she trails by 135,000 votes, not including Michigan. If you included Michigan, you need to estimate voter intent for Obama (unless you just want to "prove" HRC is ahead and don't care about fairness). The best estimate there would put Obama still ahead by 20,000 to 30,000 votes. Montana and South Dakota will extend his advantage.

So the truth is Obama leads in popular vote, delegates, states won, funds raised, donors, volunteers, volunteer hours, new registrations into the party....... and he will be our nominee.

I am still sort of hoping she will drop out and endorse Obama once he hits the magic number as see seemed to indicate previously.

Sumaya Conners. East Chatham, NY   June 1st, 2008 9:47 pm ET

Every State in the Union is important by 100% not 50% not 75% but
100%. If the Democrates had winner take all in the primaries, Sen. Hillary Clinton would have been nominated months ago.
Splitting the delegates is disastrous for any candidate.
The popular vote should count, not delegates who can be bought and sold and Especially NOT the super delegates who like to be bribed and courted and handled with kid gloves. Who died and made them kingmakers anyway. Let us do away with these yokels.

frank   June 1st, 2008 9:47 pm ET

Here is proof that Clinton and McCain wont do what they say they will on the campaign. Its pandering and promises that wont be held.

Here is my explanation.

If Clinton and McCain were so convinced, as they said they were during PA and WV, about the absolute need for a gas tax holiday why arent they in Washington implementing it. Its already a week past memorial day and if you want to gives us a gas tax holiday then we need it now. So if they arent doing it was this just another empty promise designed to pander and gain favor with voters esp those economically disadvantaged?? I hope a Clinton and McCain supporters will answer this debate and give us an alternative explanation. Please lets keep this intelligent and civilised and i mean that supporters of all 3 candidates.

Josh   June 1st, 2008 9:46 pm ET

How convenient. Not counting the caucus states..talk about fuzzy math. Hillary is a liar and a cheat. Lying was cute in the 90's when Bill did it, but now it is tragic. If she somehow pulls this off I will vote for McCain. At least he is a real person.

sjp   June 1st, 2008 9:46 pm ET

millions of dollars in the red, but still making commercials. yep thats the solid decision making our country needs. as for today, great that PR gets to vote, but the realization is that it matters not a bit in the general. 31 delegates to go plus supers, she needs 90% of them. sorry but after tuesday its obama vs. mccain.

Time time time   June 1st, 2008 9:46 pm ET

"Every vote cast against the rules of my party, cast for me against no competition, count, as long as they are for me."

I am HRC and I approve this message.

She must of had that commercial in the can for weeks to get it out to the air so fast. The facts are so muddied, they almost seem irrelevant. Just what her champaign wanted.

Are we sure they are not Republican?

Goodbye   June 1st, 2008 9:44 pm ET

Adios Senator Clinton. It was a good race but you lost. Now, please help Obama and the Democratic party take the U.S. in a positive new direction.

Obama in November!

Steve   June 1st, 2008 9:43 pm ET

Would someone PLEASE throw a net over this woman and her husband?!?!?!

BettiH, Indianapolis, IN   June 1st, 2008 9:41 pm ET

Clinton counts what is convenient to her. If she received 17 million votes then that means Obama received more votes, other wise she would be winning. she needs to give it up. I can't stand the Clintons.

Ziad   June 1st, 2008 9:40 pm ET

"The spot is set to run in the remaining two primary states — Montana and South Dakota "

Oregon and South Dakota for Democrates; not Montana

charmaine, jamaica w.i.   June 1st, 2008 9:36 pm ET

Sen. Clinton should realize by now, since Florida's and Michigan's compromise, that the nomination race is now over. I think she should humbly concede to the inevitable with the dignity that we know she possesses.

Illinois   June 1st, 2008 9:25 pm ET

Hillary needs to be our nominee, otherwise we will lose the GE. McCain is much stronger than many of the democrats think. He will garner much more support from unhappy core democrats than either the republicans or the "elite" democrats think he will. While some of his policies are not the same as a democrats, they are not Bush's policies either.....as many Obama supporters suggest.

McCain is a very moderate republican. Aside from his stance on the war, most moderate democrats would be ok with McCain winning the GE. That's good, seeing as how he probably will if Obama is the nominee.

Chris   June 1st, 2008 9:24 pm ET

Well, your popular vote count includes estimates of the caucus states that didn't report vote numbers, and not everyone agrees with including those since you're basically just including exit polls in the popular vote. If you don't include those, she's ahead even if you give Obama ALL the uncommitted votes from Michigan. Strange how you don't mention that. Also, many of the 237,762 people who voted uncommitted did not intend to vote for Obama. I'm sure at least 55,000 of them were for Edwards (that would be less than a quarter of the uncommitted votes), or were just voting in protest of not all names being on the ballot. If the question is, who would be in the lead if every state had free and fair elections (regular primaries), who would be ahead, I think the answer is clearly Hillary.

Jay   June 1st, 2008 9:21 pm ET

Hillary the pharmacy called time to pick up your meds! You Hillary supporters call us Obama supporters fanatics but yet you believe every lie that comes outa her mouth, i find that funny. By the way how does the kool aid taste?

Beth   June 1st, 2008 9:20 pm ET

I hope she stays in it to the end. She is the stronger candidate. She has the experience to lead this country. She is certainly intelligent enough and has worked in service to this country for decades. The same cannot be said of Obama. He may be charasmatic, but he doesn't have the concrete plans to back it up.

Tex   June 1st, 2008 9:20 pm ET

And yet through a terribly run campaign, coupled with dirty tactics, misspeaks, whinning "poor little old me," inabilty to secure enough campaign funding leading to over $11 million plus in persoal debt, the leagcy of her husband, Billary, sadly tarnished, poorly chosen campaign staff like Penn, Carville, Ickes and numerous others, a serious lack of character and integrity all equally contributed to Hillary being selected. She was the money on favorite from the outset with the backing of all the fat cats and politcial cronies, and yet she was beaten by the underdog, Obama, who kept on the high road and generated more campiagn dollars, registered more new voters and just flat out smarted the lady who thought she was owed the nomination.

Hillary The Independent Candidate   June 1st, 2008 9:19 pm ET

Hillary is the most popular and the strongest national candidate among McCain and Obama. She would win as the Democratic nominee. And she would win as an Independent candidate (Joe Lieberman playbook). I, for one, will vote for her in either scenario. Stay in there Hillary – you are the best of the lot and most Americans know it. And if Obama gets the nomination, please run as an Independent as McCain will beat Obama one on one, and we want a Democrat in the Oval Office

unreal   June 1st, 2008 9:19 pm ET

I partially disagree when people say that they do not know much about Barrack Obama. In fact we do know his accomplishments, but plenty of negative in character. Is commeete looking into this isse?

Chris   June 1st, 2008 9:19 pm ET

What a pathetic person she is! First it was the race card, then the sexism and now the popular vote. This lady makes me sick as the days go by. Her thirst for power is so mind boggling. What will be next?
The same lady who agreed that Michigan and Florida should be excluded because they didn't go by party rules is the same lady later who came back and said the votes should count. Why? Because she thought she would have won easily but wake up with the fact that a black man might be the nominee.And you have some pathetic women who waste their time picketing for her!
I would never want to vote for a person that changes her mind from one day to another. That's not leadership. When you make a decision, stick by it no matter what it entails.
I don't care who the next president is. Whether he is black, white, yellow, red, as long as it leads the country back to his prosperous state, that what i care about. Anybody but Hillary! I don't vote because of a candidate race and as a white man, i will vote for Mr. Obama.

No McSame   June 1st, 2008 9:19 pm ET

She won but she lost. Hillary had her last dance. She is toasted I mean done.
Obama08

Godson   June 1st, 2008 9:19 pm ET

Well, Hillary holds the popular vote in 45 states, but if every state, big and small, swing and steady, red and blue, and counting all votes cast so far in 48 states, Obama still leads.
We all know that Clinton had been diagnosed of arithmetic deficiency, the problem is that it's getting really contagious.

CK California   June 1st, 2008 9:19 pm ET

speechless..... this woman has no athletics spirit at all.

The systme is designed to win delegate, and there is even argumenet on her "win is popular vote".

Dan   June 1st, 2008 9:19 pm ET

Sen. Clinton's claim to the advantage in popular votes is a stretch. The only way for that math to work is to disenfranchise the voters in Michigan who wanted to vote for Edwards or Obama. Saying "Count Every Vote!!!!" in this context is pure hypocrisy; her math is "Count every vote I can that's for me!"

There are absolutely legitimate points of concern about the rules behind the nomination process, but the time to address those points was before the votes were cast. Accepting the rules at the beginning but crying foul when those rules don't give you a win isn't a point of principle like Clinton wants this to look, it's sour grapes. If it were principle, she would have addressed these things before the MI and FL votes happened.

Florida democrat   June 1st, 2008 9:18 pm ET

It doesn't matter. The rules are simple: the delegate count is what matters.

Let us think back to 2000: Gore won popular vote but it is the electoral college vote that determines the president.

in 2008 primary, even with Clinton fuzzy math of winning popular vote she still is behind in the delegate count: it is the delegate count that determines the nominee.

One can argue the super delegates should not override the popular vote (which in Clinton's world does not include Guam, VI but does count PR); but others can also argue the super delegates should not override the delegate vote from the primaries.

Unfortunately Clinton, and her supporters that comment on CNN, seem to care more about Clinton than the democratic party and certainly more about Clinton than the direction of the next four years.

It is sad what Clinton has done to this party. If you think otherwise then I refer you back to the paragraph above as you are certainly one of the people I am talking to.

Let us unite to beat McCain!!!!!

OBAMA 08 - 12   June 1st, 2008 9:18 pm ET

Hillary out spent Barack 3 to 1 in Puerto Rico. Isn't that's what she always says. So how much in debt is she now? How much has she loaned herself?

I'm going to make another donation to Barack Obama.

A 60 year old Republican w/female voting for Barack Obama and proud of it and proud of him.

YES WE CAN – WHEN WE UNITE

Michigan   June 1st, 2008 9:17 pm ET

If there is no vote for Obama in Michigan, then let it be. Why did DNC meeting yesterday bent the rules? There is no democracy here. People all over the world are laughing at THIS PARTY now. US has clearly shown a fake democracy.

DNC does the right thing - Ickes No   June 1st, 2008 9:17 pm ET

Sick manipulation that does nothing but insult all Democracy-loving Americans and dishonors the millions who have supported Hillary's valiant campaign.

Hillary, in absolute numbers, today, is as close as she'll ever get to the nomination. After Tuesday, Obama's numbers will further demonstrate his legitimacy as the toughest competitor in this race. Hillary ran a valiant race but dishonors her legands of followers by falsely reprenting the popular vote

Dennis   June 1st, 2008 9:16 pm ET

I'm beginning to wonder if supporters of Senator Obama should begin to resort to the childish tactics of supporters of Senator Clinton. If Senator Obama is robbed of the nomination, should we all either vote for Senator McCain or write in Senator Obama (thereby voting for Senator McCain)? Or, should we just threaten to stay home on election day?

The answer is "of course not." I'll support the Democrat nominee with my vote and only my vote. Senator Clinton won't get any money from me. I do realize that her policy positions are more similar to Senator Obama's than Senator McCain's. Therefore, I'll vote for her.

However, should Senator Obama get the nomination, and Senator Clinton and her supporter's tactics cost him the election this fall, you better believe I will find another candidate to support in 2012 should Senator Obama not run again. It is pretty clear that Senator Clinton is really all about herself first, then the party and the people second, and she'll say anything to win.

Allan   June 1st, 2008 9:16 pm ET

Mrs. Clinton has seriously compromised herself as a candidate.
She was pretty clear that she will not drop out no matter what and that everything is in place for her to win.
Her supporters struck me as angry people. I think Clinton supporters will be disappointed and disillusioned after all is said and done. It will depend alot on what Mrs. Clinton does.

I hope she retires now at age 65.

SleeplessInSeattle   June 1st, 2008 9:16 pm ET

A lot has been said about following the rules and don’t even want to go there. Clinton, at the beginning of these primaries had everything going for her, name recognition, a very popular ex president among democrats campaigning for her day and night, an obscene amount of money, the entire democratic establishment and bagful of supper delegates. The nomination was hers for the taking. By some miracle that involved a 3 A.M. phone call from the upper cosmic regions, she has managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. It is time for Hill to accept the inevitable and bow out gracefully.

Bill Montag   June 1st, 2008 9:16 pm ET

As the DNC commits political suicide by pushing Hillary under a bus, I can foresee a backlash that might well give birth to a "Hillary Supporters for McCain" movement. The DNC seems to be grasping defeat out of the jaws of victory by alienating millions who don't like the DNC playing God with the primary process. We Demos got pushed around by the GOP in 2000...and now our own party is pushing around loyal Democrats without whom a Nov. win will be impossible. This warning to the DNC is a promise not a threat...we can pull down our own party if the DNC persists in alienating core Democrats.

Barbara   June 1st, 2008 9:15 pm ET

Hillary Clinton intends to blow up the democratic party. Horrible person.

A CANUCK   June 1st, 2008 9:15 pm ET

So what else is new? She's like a broken record !!!!!!!!!

Andy   June 1st, 2008 9:14 pm ET

Keep up the good work Hillary!! Hopefully by the time the convention comes around, the Dems in this country will come around to the realization that Obama is not what this country needs. We do not need more inspiring rhetoric, we need our politicians to get to work. If Obama wins this election, he will have no idea how to lead this country. The only thing the "Pied Piper of hope" can do is tell everyone how he's going to change this country. Don't forget, if it's not for the better, we do not need change for the sake of having change!!

MIKE   June 1st, 2008 9:14 pm ET

ITS TRULY AMAZING HOW THE RULES CAN CHANGE FOR SOME PEOPLE WHEN WE "THEY" ALL KNEW WHAT THE RULES WERE IN THE BEGINNING AND EVEN AFTER THEY GET THE GOAL POST MOVED OVER JUST A LITTLE FOR THEM THEY STILL THINK THEY ARE (ENTITLED)

JB   June 1st, 2008 9:14 pm ET

Well, it's not just moving the goalposts; it's kicking the ball out of bounds and then widening the field. I think I remember Bill (who I still like) being a little fuzzy with facts. It appears that Hillary has fuzzy thoughts considering the votes cast.
It is interesting that the popular vote is so close. While it's an arguement, it's moot. In reality the mantle of "more votes than anyone in the history of the Democratic primaries." rests on Obama. If you factor in the percentages that he won in the caucus states that didn't keep a vote count, he blew her completely out of the water. You can factor that in by the number of delegates that he garnered in those states. For example: In Colorado he recieved 67% of the caucus vote. Hillary received 32%. Obama got 36 national delegates and Clinton got 19. The state delegate vote count was 79000+ for Obama and 38000+ for Clinton.

If you could extrapolate that into primary votes (if only 40% of Colorado's registered Democrats voted).

Number of registered Democrats in Colorado as of February 22, 2008:
885,623
x .40
354,249

354,249 – Obama
x .67
237,346

354,249 – Clinton
x .32
113,359

That gives Obama a 123, 987 margin. I am not sure that this completely accurate, but it is a likely scenario. Obama won other primaries (not just caucuses) by similar margins, so it is not unlikely that his margin of victory in Colorage would have been similar also.

Bobby tray   June 1st, 2008 9:14 pm ET

This is sad really sad. The democratic party needs to thank the Clinton regime in ruining the party chance to have a representative in the White House. They and the people who are following them fit in several categories; selfish, racists, and radical feminists. They claim there is a cult following with Obama? They need to look in the mirror. Many of them are irrationally following Clinton. This is a mess. CNN must love this. . . it is all about the ratings for them not the future of the country. . .

Mark   June 1st, 2008 9:14 pm ET

These do not include the caucuses, so if Hillary is really for letting ALL votes count... then she is NOT the popular vote winner...

Secondly last time I checked the Delegates choose our nominee, and Barack leads Hillary by well over 100 Delegates...

So Hillary quit spinning, your done!

Rave   June 1st, 2008 9:14 pm ET

This is disgusting & sick.
She clearly lost even the popular vote. She knows it.
Now we have to pray, she doesn't become the VP candidate. I hope Obama will not allow her near him.
OBAMA / AL GORE 2008

carolyn martin   June 1st, 2008 9:14 pm ET

hang in there Hillary, don't give in , take it all the way to the convention

Brett   June 1st, 2008 9:14 pm ET

Since i live in the Michigan where myvote didnt count. You can bet i will not be voting for a democrat candidate ever again.

Boston Observer   June 1st, 2008 9:13 pm ET

Obama - be careful. Letting these mis-representations continue too long could make you look weak. At a minimum, would you or your staff state clearly that the Clinton campaign is playing games with the numbers. I know you are threading a needle here - as the DNC meeting yesterday showed, many on the Clinton team will walk on you anyway (but it was encouraging to see an emerging group of reasonable people) - but don't let obvious nonsense go unchecked.

We are approaching a simple fact: Obama having enough delegates to be the nominee. That will be the moment of truth for all the Hillary folks: do you believe in democracy, do you play by the rules, to you care about this country?

Gina   June 1st, 2008 9:12 pm ET

If unity where going to happen, it would have started by Hillary toning down the misleading rhetoric that she has the popular vote. She continues to alienate and seperate her supporters from the party as a whole.

I used to believe that Obama might have the "cult personality" thing going on-how did an unknown senator bowl over the Cinton's? But when I visit Hillary's webpage, I see seriously frightening viewpoints, scary for the democratic party....that God will make this happen, that there is no way that the government can stop her MISSION, that they will "follow her directions." That kind of talk is nowhere on Obama's or McCain's websites.

While Obama stopped targeting Hillary weeks ago, she continues to target him, she continues to give her loyalists false hope–so much hope that they cannot seem to imagine a result that does not put Hillary as the candidate. This is manipulative and dangerous-for those supporters, and for the democratic party.

I do hope they represent a minority of the party. I know that I don't know anyone like this. The Hillary supporters I know will support Obama, based on policy, not personality.

Mike   June 1st, 2008 9:12 pm ET

Hillary supporters,

The popular vote is very debatable, if this then that, however, what's not debatable is that OBAMA has the most delegates!!

Chuck   June 1st, 2008 9:12 pm ET

When Hillary finally decides to bow out, she should take her Harold "Icky" Ickes with her. What repugnant behavior he displayed yesterday as a member of the DNC Rules Committee.

Ian   June 1st, 2008 9:12 pm ET

Meet America's best spin doctor... Her entire team was selected on that basis. These people are absolutely rediculous!!!

MM   June 1st, 2008 9:11 pm ET

She is crazy...she is a dreamer. It's over for billhary. No more Monica Lewinsky in the white house.

Vote for change, vote for Obama 08

Maria   June 1st, 2008 9:11 pm ET

What a role model...she is showing her true colors, as Latinos say:

" No comes ni dejas comer"

JM, MT   June 1st, 2008 9:10 pm ET

Let's count all the votes! (But let's not count ALL the votes) I'm sick of people twisting the truth, shouldn't we all be?

Obama and the rational, not racial whites, blacks, reds, blues, browns, yellows and every other color.

Obama 08, 12!'

Jack from California   June 1st, 2008 9:10 pm ET

Hillary is 100% correct, she is the "only one" that can beat John McCain in November.

Democrats will be licking their wounds for years to come when John McCain beats Barrack Obama.

The most important thing in my 64 year old life is to see a democrat in the white house this next term and, Obama will not win.

The republicans and their media outlets want to proclaim Barrack the knight in shining armor for the democrats knowing full well that by getting Hillary out of the race will give them a certain victory.

Well, just wait and see and then kick your collective democratic butts after November.

Remember that a majority of democrats actually voted for Hillary but, Barracks gigantic ego won't accept the fact that she is the better candidate.

Rev. W. Dominos, Topeka   June 1st, 2008 9:10 pm ET

After Barack Obama walked out on his brothers at Trinity Church, there's no way for me to vote for him in November. All the man cares about is votes and quitting Trinity was nothing but pandering to white voters.

If it is not pandering, why would he quit now? He didn't learn anything this week that had not been going on for 20 years. The man obviously has no core values and I have to admit, he did fool me.

laurie South Dakota   June 1st, 2008 9:09 pm ET

She is unbelievable.... She is effectively telling our children that the end justifies the means..... OBAMA WAS NOT ON THE BALLOT.......END OF STORY.... There needs be nothing else said..... How in the world can she look the American people in the eye and say that she should get those votes....
I used to admire her....now she disgusts me.

Mark from Seattle   June 1st, 2008 9:09 pm ET

oh Hillary. She is so funny. I swear, you need to have a low intellect to believe her arguments. Luckily most of our politicians are educated, meaning the super delegates just laugh at Hillary's fuzzy math.

"Well, you see, if you count the states I want counted and don't count some other ones, then look, I am ahead in the popular vote." -Hillary

Come On! Does anyone actually believe this? Too bad Barrack forgot about Hillary. Or else he could have a fun time calling her out

Karen, TX   June 1st, 2008 9:09 pm ET

Why is she wasting money (that she doesn't have) on an ad when the primary election will be over on Tuesday? This goes to show that she will not be able to run the finances of the country.

Obama 08

Cherry   June 1st, 2008 9:09 pm ET

hey Hillary,

The race is over.

Please support your democratic nominee, Barack Obama.

HRC supporter   June 1st, 2008 9:09 pm ET

PR is "winner take all". HRC rec'd 55 delegates today and BHO obtained 0. I believe the reports are inaccurate.

Sebastian   June 1st, 2008 9:09 pm ET

Hillary Clinton is to be congratulated for her primary win in the US territory of Puerto Rico She has not, despite her team's comments to the contrary won the popular vote.

As the democratic party stated yesterday, the events (they can't even be called elections) in Florida and Michigan where flawed and legally invalid. By the rules, the entire Michigan delegates could have been ZEROED. Despite this, in the spirit of compromise, delegates where allocated. Mrs. Clinton, Americans will allow this accomodation to you.

We will not, however, allow you to claim that these "votes" as part of some false mandate ... as though the contests are equivalent in stature or integrity to those in the remaining states.

The world is not run by lawyers (Ickies, McCualiffe, etc.) attempting to find a loophole in the election. It is run by Common Sense people ... the same ones you say you are advocating for. Those types of folks reject this type of "Spin".

Sometimes when you win ... you lose. Sometimes when you lose ... you win. Sometimes when yo win or lose ... you tie.

You've won in Puerto Rico but you've lost.

David   June 1st, 2008 9:08 pm ET

She is the one who wants to hijack the nomination. No wonder, the catholic priest saw this coming.. his mistake was to say in Trinity. Look, both Michigan and Florida, though are fully sitting the delagates in order to unifyig the party, we cannot ignore the fact they were penalize with a half a vote. In the actual sense, the Rules committee recognizing some flawness in the whole process – the votes obtained does not reflect the will of the people. How about those who were mislead and never voted. This whole popular votes theory is a fraud.

Jorge   June 1st, 2008 9:08 pm ET

What about the votes from caucuses? does does votes matter? does does votes count? why cherry pick votes? Please Mrs. Clinton give it up for the sake of the party and for the sake of the country! This country needs to turn the page on these political families!

Boston Observer   June 1st, 2008 9:08 pm ET

Would a news organization please take a critical look at the number of voters. Simply repeating this nonsense is ridiculous. Not only is the number Hillary is touting wrong and misleading - giving Obama 0 for Michigan is obviously skewing the data - but she is clearly insinuating that nationally more people support her than Obama. But caucus states aren't being counted at all in this tally.

Do "news" organizations do anything other than repeat what Hillary says?

David   June 1st, 2008 9:07 pm ET

She is the one who wants to hijack the nomination. No wonder, the catholic priest saw this coming.. his mistake was to say in Trinity. Look, both Michigan and Florida, though are fully sitting the delagates in order to unifyig, we can ignore the fact they were penalize with a half a vote. In the actual sense, the Rules committee recognizing some flawness in the whole process – the votes obtained does not reflect the will of the people. How about those who were mislead and never voted. This whole popular votes theory is a fraud.

gil   June 1st, 2008 9:07 pm ET

Though Hillary may be able to adjust the math so the popular vote does favor her over Obama. One can still look at it from another point of view and that is if you add up Obama's vote and all the other canidates that received votes during the primary, more people voted against Hillary than for her. I know this also applies to Obama so I believe this makes the popular vote argument useless and the delegate count and accurate measurement on who wins the primary.

JohnLee   June 1st, 2008 9:07 pm ET

Hillary – news flash to you – it isn't the popular vote! You knew that going in and either play by the rules or try to change them for the next time you run! But don't try to bend the rules to suit your playing field. And to think that I almost wanted to vote for you instead of Obama. Sad, ... sad... because you're pushing me away. All I know is I don't want McCain and you're pushing me to say I don't want you either!

Reg20032   June 1st, 2008 9:07 pm ET

So basically Clinton is stretching the truth. Imagine that.

concerned voter   June 1st, 2008 9:07 pm ET

Where's the honesty? What values are we teaching our children? How can the office of the presidency be highly esteemed (again)?

Dmitriy   June 1st, 2008 9:06 pm ET

OK so Obama get's the uncommitted, John Edwards', Bill Richardson's and some of Hillary Clinton's delegates in Michigan but yet you cannot count the popular votes from that state? What kind of cr@p is that? Why is CNN jumping on DNC's bandwagon of hijacking the election? I guess so much for fair reporting.

MD   June 1st, 2008 9:06 pm ET

Clinging to straws is a Clinton staple. How pathetic is that? What a shame that Hillary Clinton cannot accept the inevitable gracefully.

Anonymous   June 1st, 2008 9:06 pm ET

DO WE WANT ANOTHER MONICA LEWINSKY SCANDAL?

WISDOM   June 1st, 2008 9:06 pm ET

Even if HRC knew how to count numbers correctly, she will pretend that she doesn't know how to count the numbers. What a shame!
I wonder how those HRC supporters behavior just like her. Only conclusion that I can think of is: Either they are plain dumb or they are plain dishonest. I also think that those who say if not HRC then they will vote for McSame, could be RACISTS. The reason I say this is that there isn't a whole lot of policy difference between HRC and BHO. So if you are a true democrat, it shouldn't be really matter whether the nominee is BHO or HRC. If so, then how can you say that It has to be HRC? That's why I can say that those who say they will vote for Mcsame if not HRC, are RACISTS. That's the only true reason that I can think of. I feel sad when people act like this, but what can I say? The time will heal those wounds. Please God, forgive us for acting like this and bless us all.

Sharon (New Zealand)   June 1st, 2008 9:06 pm ET

Puerto Rico does not vote in the GE and from what we can see Mr Barak is ahead in SD and Montana. I am in New Zealand married to an American who served his country for 21 years in the US Navy and he will be casting his absentee ballot in the GE. We have been avidly following your election. We are excited about the new hope and future Mr Obama is advicating for America. Who really wants another Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton with all the excess baggage. Mr Obama has shown dignity, integrity and honesty throughout this campaign under duress. Mrs Clinton (even though I am a woman) does not instil confidence in her policies for the future, especially with Bill tagging along…..Is the White House their legacy, does the world really want another 4 years of that. The whole world awaits, I know we all look up to America to be a guiding light in this world of ours…It is time for a CHANGE, a chance to try something new and time for the rest world to have confidence in the USA once again. It is time for the American Democrats to join together united as one.

shirley   June 1st, 2008 9:05 pm ET

Hillary will proclaim herself the winner regardless of the delegate or popular vote. She has been changing the rules and moving the bar after every primary, remember too that only the states she has won are important. The Clinton's will lie, cheat and steal to win. I am ashamed that women think Hillary is the best we can do for a woman President, many women are voting for her 'just because' she is a woman and they don't seem bothered by the fact that she has lied and cheated her way through this contest. It seems that many of us no longer consider personal integrity a necessary trait.

Jerry O   June 1st, 2008 9:05 pm ET

I am sad to here a person running for the top political position as president of the United States Of America considering themselves something other than an AMERICAN. I quote African American, you know bye now you might think as most of us think they would need to consider themselves an AMERICAN. Leave the the card at the door! I am also saddened that a person would leave their place of worshop due to a current change in beliefs or is it???? I am an American and nobody no matter what my skin color or gender can telll me otherwise..... I do not know who I will vote for in November, I will say that I am loosing confidence in "PARTIES" we are all American not a color, not a gender, not a party....

Thank You
Jerry O
Ossipee, NH

fred   June 1st, 2008 9:05 pm ET

Take it all the way to the convention Hillary!!

17,000,000 plus are behind you and the majority of these will NOT vote for Obama!!

ada   June 1st, 2008 9:05 pm ET

Hillary has done her best in this primary season i think its time for her to step down.

Am sure Obama can give her a cabinet position

NORA, FLORIDA   June 1st, 2008 9:05 pm ET

Wow, I can now see why this country is going to hell in a hand basket. We have people like her who can't manage their campaign but wants to tackle a much larger economy. Not to mention, she is having problems counting.

Bill, Covington   June 1st, 2008 9:04 pm ET

Senator Clinton needs to stay in all the way to the convention in Denver. Once there those committed votes are committed for only one (1) ballot, then they are free to vote for anyone.
I have no intention of voting for either the caucasian female or the negro-caucasian. Anyone who does vote for either of them is probably related to Charles Manson.

k williams   June 1st, 2008 9:04 pm ET

she's a liar and a theif. if hillary is anyway on the ticket in nov. i will hold my nose and vote for mcsame.

hoping   June 1st, 2008 9:04 pm ET

Typical, just like Bush she says what she wants you to believe. Like Bush, she thinks the American people are stupid enough to believe her bold face lies. Iraq is fine, the economy is good, Hilary ducked sniper fire and all her supports are fed up with her antics and are switching to Obama but she has the popular vote. Either she is testing our intelligence or she is delusional.

HRC supporter   June 1st, 2008 9:04 pm ET

Puerto Rico is "winner take all". Thus, HRC gets all 55 delegates. The CNN reports are inccurate

Jen   June 1st, 2008 9:03 pm ET

She completely discounts the caucus voters. Don't their votes count? Also, how can she not count all the people in Michigan who showed up to specifically NOT VOTE for her! Hillary, bow at now and let the general election commence!

Jerry   June 1st, 2008 9:03 pm ET

The Clinton's are trying to damage the Democratic party so bad she will argue that she must be on the ticket in order for the Democrats to win the election. Some Obama supporters don't want the Clinton's in office again
and those who don't may turn to McCain rather than vote Clinton in office even as a VP. It seems the Democrats are bound to lose the election one way or another. Hillary needs to go! Now!

Trish- PA   June 1st, 2008 9:03 pm ET

I really hate this woman. Hillary, you DO NOT lead in the popular vote. The caucus states don't count the number of votes after the primary, so there is no way of counting how many votes Obama received from the states he won who held caucus primaries. I have never seen such a selfish person as Hillary Clinton. She has done more damage to her party than all of the past politicians combined. So i guess all of the people who voted in the caucus states don't count now????? YOU DO NOT HAVE THE POPULAR VOTE, YOU HORRIBLE, CHEATING WOMAN!

EMILIO FROM CANADA   June 1st, 2008 9:03 pm ET

Hillary Clinton, the queen of chaos,... my votes count, his don't. A con artist par excellence, that hopefully will be forever exiled from the American political landscape.

Pat, Texas   June 1st, 2008 9:02 pm ET

Get your facts straight! Your popular vote theory differs from the one presented on CNN 2 hours ago. In that broadcast, Clinton was shown ahead in the popular vote in 2 of 3 scenarios. You say, here, that there is only one way she is ahead.

John, London   June 1st, 2008 9:02 pm ET

As someone said on earlier, the problem with Hillary is all about I.....I....I and many times more, I. With her its always I this, I that, I here and I there that she ended up putting people off. What happens to "we"?.

Funny that she's now at the end of the primary process turning around to blame the party nomination process. Was it not the same party process that her husband won through before winning the White House? Obviously and as had been tooted on many blogs. the Clintons are indeed a shameless coniving lots who shall do anything to have their way. OB and team better not let their guards down.

fred the good one   June 1st, 2008 9:02 pm ET

UPDATE:

clinton supporters voting for Mr. Obama: 17

clinton supporters voting for mc cain: 16

republicans voting for Mr. Obama: 3,010,305

democrats voting for Mr. Obama: WOW!

obama supporters voting for mc cain: -0-

Will keep them coming.

NBC   June 1st, 2008 9:02 pm ET

Even if she did have the popular vote.....I thought this race was won by delegates. Oh well, the race according to Hillary Clinton. Who needs rules or a Democratic Party when you've got her.

OBAMA 08!

silas   June 1st, 2008 9:02 pm ET

Mrs Clinton please can you stop all these claims and begin to call for party unity

Michigan Voter !!!   June 1st, 2008 9:01 pm ET

Hillary Holds The Keys To The White House !!!!! . She has The Most Support ( Popular Vote ) The True Will Of The People !!!! .Who Wins The White House Is Up To Us " Hillary Supporters" We Have The POWER !!!

We Have Witnessed The Obama Campaign , The DNC , And The Media Stealing The Nomination Form Hillary . Hillary Is A Fighter , And So Are Her Supporters . If Obama Steals The Nominaion , We Will Right This Wrong , We Will Support Sen. John McCain .

McCain Is Going To Be Our Next President !!!!! .

And Democrats Like Me Are Going To Make Sure .

Obama , And The Pool Of Anti – American Racist Radicals He Swims With , Never gets Into Our White House .

Hillary , Or John McCain 2008

TrulySick   June 1st, 2008 9:01 pm ET

This is getting ridiculous....if Hillary is the nominee, does she plan on changing all the rules to suit her self interests? I started out as a clinton supporter and I voted for her in the beginning, but now I feel that she is getting a little selfish. I thought it was all about the Democratic Party taking over in Washington, seems to me that she is dividing the party. Enough already.

Rob R   June 1st, 2008 9:00 pm ET

She should have just saved the money for those ads and applied it to her debt because they will do nothing to change the minds of superdelegates or the voters of SD and MT.

Including the vote totals from MI in her count is ludicrous. As long as FL and MI got their representation that is what counts. Most of those uncommitted votes were for Obama. She knows it. Harold Ickes knows it. The world knows it. This IS NOT another 2000 Al Gore situation. She will not win the popular vote despite her fuzzy math. It will end up being really close, but its delegates that count and Obama has beat her fair and square.

Belle   June 1st, 2008 9:00 pm ET

When playing in any tournament, players who decline to play a game forfeit that game; they are not ever given points because they opted out of a particular game. No winner of any game is expected to give up points to an opponent who opted out of the game. But then, this is the Democratic Party lead by Howard Dean and the DNC.

Renee, Florida   June 1st, 2008 9:00 pm ET

Superdelegates: Why are you allowing this nonsense to continue?

Michigan Male   June 1st, 2008 8:58 pm ET

My vote for "uncommitted" was for Senator Obama and should count as such. It is time for Senator Clinton to be honest with herself and the voters. She lost by all measures and it is time to move on.

Andrea in TX   June 1st, 2008 8:58 pm ET

Using the Clinton Math I now realize I was a straight A student…I'm only counting the tests that gave me the highest scores. I should have been the Valedictorian!!!

Please Senator Clinton, I AM ONE OF YOUR SUPPORTERS!!! Please stop saying something that is clearly not true. You should be strong enough to win without this spin.

It makes it hard to support "our" position when popular vote is not what matters as delegates are the deciding factor. Caucuses helped elect Bill so why discount them now. Hillary do it the right way, PLEASE; don't let your advisors make you "spin" your way in.

Roberson in Georgia   June 1st, 2008 8:58 pm ET

Sen. Clinton your win in Puerto Rico is on par with a running stealing second base and the catcher does not throw to second. The reason why is the team is already up by 8 runs, therefore the runner on second does not change anything. Also, since Puerto Rico can not vote in the General Election

Your campaign is has a huge debt, you are losing by over 200 delegates, but you spend big bucks to campaign in Puerto Rico. I gather logical reasoning is not in your character either.

Educated   June 1st, 2008 8:57 pm ET

WOW! So basically, she's just manipulating (and lying) to the public with her butchered math of counting states that really were not suppose to be counted for (due to breaking rules) and ignoring the caucus states as if they did not exist.

And people still think she's Presidential?

Bruce MacKinnon   June 1st, 2008 8:56 pm ET

It befuddles me as to why the Democrat pundits from the Obama/anti-Clinton camps and the liberal media haven't brought up the effect that Rush Limbaugh's "Operation Chaos" has had on her claim of having more popular votes. Are they afraid to give Limbaugh credence? I realize that there is no way of getting an accurate count of the "Chaos" voters that crossed over, but there is no question in my mind that there was an effect. That whole fiasco of the Rules Committee on Saturday was ridiculous. If they really wanted to burst Hillary's bubble and end this mess, all they had to do was bring up "Operation Chaos" – simple enough!

Paul, FL   June 1st, 2008 8:56 pm ET

I cant believe she actually has the nerve to LIE to the American people!!

The people in Alaska, Colorado, Idaho, Kansas, Minnesota, North Dakota, Iowa, Nevada, Nebraska, Washington, Maine, and Wyoming (ie, the caucus states) must be outraged that Clinton doesnt feel their votes should be heard... Even though she's trying to argue that EVERY VOTE SHOULD COUNT!

She makes me SICK!!

Marx   June 1st, 2008 8:56 pm ET

Isns't she delusive? After whining, crying, and wishing death for Obama, she changes the rules in the middle of the game because she was losing. Now she wants that popular votes to be cnsidered despite that the condition for nomination is number of delegates earned. Who the hell does she think she is. Is she so ardently power greedy. If she so much wants to be president, queen, or empress, England is giving out application.

JJ in NY   June 1st, 2008 8:55 pm ET

People aren't as stupid as you think they are, hillary. Puerto Rico doesn't even vote in the general election... they are not a state and they have no electoral votes, so add a big zero to yoour totals and see if that helps. How pathetic are your lies !!

Joe   June 1st, 2008 8:55 pm ET

Hillary was never one to excel in math. Look at how many tens of millions of dollars she has put herself in debt. She has a real problem with reality.

I guess this is Custer's last stand?

Ryan   June 1st, 2008 8:55 pm ET

When clinton supporters ask what kind of change Barack Obama will bring to the white house, ask yourselves, does he pull obvious bullcrap like this? Obama respects our intelligence. He doesn't blatantly lie to us and expect us to swallow it hook line and sinker. Hillary thinks you're all idiots people!

jm from sc   June 1st, 2008 8:54 pm ET

The Democratic process is based on delegate count. Why are we having this discussion?

KMG   June 1st, 2008 8:54 pm ET

Now that the DNC has demonstrated once more its lack of leadership,we have no choice but to take things into to our own hands.
Hillary shoud break from the party–run as an independent. Or, campign for a write in vote–If she is really winning the popular vote than this should be a no brainer.

I will not support an Obama-Clinton ticket no matter how much the DNC & the media try to cram it down our throats –it is insulting!

Stand your gound Hillary–the DNC is not your friend...all the super delegates who owed you loyalty have turned their backs on you.
The hell with them...fight on as an independent!
Educate people on how to complete a write in vote in November!

BrutallyHonest   June 1st, 2008 8:54 pm ET

The win of Hillary in the Puerto Rico primary again underscores the Hispanic contempt for black candidates in the nation.

If Obama wins the Democratic nomination, this Hispanic bias , coupled by the anti-Obama white collar worker votes, would be a killer obstacle to overcome.

Obama clearly has failed in convincing the Hispanic voters that he is a candidate who will unify the country. Instead, he is seen as a representative of a minority block that has always been the thorn on the side of Hispanic communities, both in economic and political aspects.

The marriage of this Hispanic contempt and the other hostile voting groups could spell a McCain victory in the general election.

It is a sad reality, but if anyone doubts the reality of this Hispanic bias, just remember Hillary's win in California and Florida.

tigerakabj   June 1st, 2008 8:53 pm ET

You know what, the only way Hillary is getting out of the race is if she has a trial pending. Oh my bad, she already does - Peter Paul v. Clinton. She is lying and is poisoning people against Barack and the Democratic Party.

1. She is excluding caucus states
2. Like this article said, she is including states whose votes are invalid

Like her unruly supporter yesterday, they are going to have to drag this woman off the campaign trail screaming. They need to shut her down.

Sally   June 1st, 2008 8:53 pm ET

O go BHO
You don't run the show
Take what little you Do know
And let Hillary run the show.

GET LOST OBAMA

Karen in Ohio   June 1st, 2008 8:53 pm ET

Another shred of evidence of Clinton lies.
Clintonism = cheat, lie, deception, do anything, say anything for power. This is exactly why people do not vote for Clintons.

Math   June 1st, 2008 8:53 pm ET

Depends on which math Hillary decides on (on any given day) to her advantage... Sorry – whichever way she may try the failed math test, the advantage is not hers this time around.

DNC has 'fixed' the nomination....   June 1st, 2008 8:53 pm ET

She is the peoples choice with the popular vote....Obama is the DNC's choice as illustrated by their fixing of the Michigan delegate distribution. No matter what....the DNC has continued to add to the division of the Democratic Party that Senator Obama started.

Shame on the DNC and all those who supported the stripping of Michigan voters from Senator Clinton.

Go Senator Clinton to the Convention and appeal the DNC Rules Committee of yesterday! It was wrong then and it is wrong now!

JJ in NY   June 1st, 2008 8:53 pm ET

Fuzzy math, tortured logic, emotionally disturbed .....

Do we really want a deficient queen to lead this country ????

If hilly continues to lie now, what will she do later??

More Lies and bigger Lies !!!!!

Adam B   June 1st, 2008 8:52 pm ET

This from the woman who said :"It's clear this election Michigan is having is not going to count for anything. I personally did not think it made any difference whether or not my name was on the ballot."

jim t   June 1st, 2008 8:52 pm ET

why is she counting the popular vote in territories that dont even vote

in the general election and not the caucus states? maybe its because

it will show that shes actually losing with the caucus states, plus

counting michigan where obamas name wasnt even on the ballot

USE YOUR NOGGIN THERE CLINTON

Chris Compton   June 1st, 2008 8:52 pm ET

In 2000, the DNC was screaming because Al Gore won the popular vote and wasn't inaugurated.

In 2000, the DNC was screaming because all the votes were not counted in Florida.

Fast Forward :::::::::: 2008

Hillary Clinton will finish the primary with the popular vote... but is the DNC screaming foul ???

The votes in Florida were not all counted... but is the DNC screaming foul???

The liberal left DNC is hypocritical and only wants one thing... a black man to be president so that we can say to the world look at us, we are not racists... see !!! I will vote independent.. new party ... one that does not elect based on the color of someone's skin and where there is no room for using race to get elected.

Progressive Independents for HIllary Clinton in 08 !!!

Independent   June 1st, 2008 8:51 pm ET

Enough is enough. Clinton Advisors please advise her to sit down and stop being so divisive.

United we stand for Obama divided McCain wins and the recession continues.

Please grow up!

Melissa, New York, NY   June 1st, 2008 8:51 pm ET

Hillary wins the popular vote... only if she doesn't "count every vote." I thought that was what she was fight for...

Trasa   June 1st, 2008 8:51 pm ET

First I just want to say, how is an ad about winning the popular vote has anything to do with the issues. Just like the bitter ad she did in Pennsylvania that didn't have any concerns in regards to what is more important and that's the issues. It's starts to seem like it is all about her and not the voters of America. And if she truly cared about the votes in Florida and Michigan, she would aknowledge that the primary was not a conclusive result because there was still voters who took the DNC word and didn't come out. What about them. And Obama only took his name off because it was stated the primary wouldn't count in Michigan. So Hillary supporters hate him because he's just following the rules. It doesn't suprise me, because that's what America is starting to be about, never following guidelines, rules and being fair. I guess this is why were in the situation that where in. Besides, if Hillary is so confident about being the stronger candidate, she has nothing to worry about!

OBAMA '08
CNN please post.

Coleman R. Brice, Asbury Park, NJ   June 1st, 2008 8:51 pm ET

It is NOT debatable. She's a callous liar. Report the TRUTH.

John   June 1st, 2008 8:51 pm ET

Yes you do have the popular vote, if you subtract the uncommitted votes that Obama would have gotten in Michigan but fortunately write-ins count as uncommitted, and you also ignore the caucus states. Every vote counts right?

Don Salamon   June 1st, 2008 8:50 pm ET

This mystery math is getting to the point of being absurd. I think it is beyond her comprehension that Americans would prefer not to have another Clinton ascend the, " throne." This blatant distortion of the issue, who the winner should be by delegate count, is eerily reminiscient of the same tactics that the current administration has used to distort the reasons for attacking Iraq and its poor response to Katrina to name two major issues. This urgency of entitlement she believes she in is embarrasing and downright malicious to the American people.

Nina   June 1st, 2008 8:50 pm ET

Obama i a fraud, a liar and far more dangerous to this country then even Bush.
Open your eyes or else we are all doomed...

Daniel   June 1st, 2008 8:50 pm ET

Obama has it just a matter of days

HJ   June 1st, 2008 8:49 pm ET

Keep going Hillary you are just 200 delagates short, which is in comparsion to being 15 touchdowns down with 2 minutes left in the game.

Obama will need at MAX 30 superdelagates to deliver him a win. Do people really think the superdelagates are undecided. If I had to bet I am sure the phone is ringing off the wall with them trying to be number 2,118. Come tomorrow and Tuesday the Obama campaign will have over 30 new superdelagates.

Jackson   June 1st, 2008 8:49 pm ET

It is pure arogance on the part of the NObama campaign to try and claim the "uncommitted" votes in Michigan ... let us all remember that John Edwards was still in the race then ... and he like NObama ... took his name off the ballot ... but Clinton wasn't the only one on the ballot ... and let's not forget that ... those votes are hers ... the people voted for her ... and that cannot be disputed!!

douadavid, PA   June 1st, 2008 8:49 pm ET

Yeah ! She is the American Queen and deserved to be the president of United States. It is time for Nobama to quit his church and all his presidential ambition all together. Obama had no place in this election. 2008 is for HIllary and 2016 is for Nobama.

Michigan Voter !!!   June 1st, 2008 8:49 pm ET

Hillary Holds The Keys To The White House !!!!! . She has The Most Support ( Popular Vote ) The True Will Of The People !!!! . Who Wins The White House Is Up To Us " Hillary Supporers" We Have The POWER !!!

We Have Witnessed The Obama Campaign , The DNC , And The Media Stealing The Nomination Form Hillary . Hillary Is A Fighter , And So Are Her Supporters . If Obama Steals The Nominaion , We Will Right This Wrong , We Will Support Sen. John McCain .

John McCain Is Going To Be Our Next President !!!!! .

And Democrats Like Me Are Going To Make Sure .

Obama , And The Pool Of Anti – American Racist Radicals He Swims With , Never get into Our White House .

Hillary , Or John McCain 2008

Barbara - 65 yr old white female in NC   June 1st, 2008 8:49 pm ET

Those votes also don't discount the "Rush Repukes" that crossed over to mess up the whole primary.

TunnelVision   June 1st, 2008 8:49 pm ET

Bill freed enough FALN extremists to ensure that a Clinton would win even if they weren't running in the election. Even Chelsea could win Puerto Rico.

Dan   June 1st, 2008 8:48 pm ET

Hillary continues to prove she is committed to destroying the democratic party's chances for winning in the general election.
She will continue to press for changing the rules until the end result is her winning the nomination.
Do we really want a delusional rule-breaker as President of these United States of America? I think not!

marek   June 1st, 2008 8:48 pm ET

the one who has more delegate will win, on Tusday or short after it
we will know so to make popular vote argument is silly

Kaye- Jacksonville FL   June 1st, 2008 8:47 pm ET

Al Gore proved the popular vote counts for nothing and the DNC hasn't changed the process. So who cares? Furthermore, her math is pretty fuzzy – if Obama won Idaho and Nebraska then he must have had more people "voting" for him, huh? And he gets nothing from the Michigan primary?

I hope and pray Hillary will graciously concede in the next 48 hours and pull the full force of her supporters behind our nominee. But her campaign and folks like Ferraro have done SO much damage that I really believe there may be a lot of Hillary supporters that won't come on board for Obama....with encouragement from the HRC campaign, they consider themselves victimized, primarily by Obama and the DNC – they are seethingly, blindly and unjustifiably angry. So Hillary must do all she can to undo the mind games she's played with that constituency.

Democrats must UNITE, now! Obama can win and he will serve as a skilled and capable President. Please, let's get behind his nomination and his campaign for November.

SHERRY WV   June 1st, 2008 8:47 pm ET

Bill Clinton is a SUPER delegagte

Barbara - 65 yr old white female in NC   June 1st, 2008 8:46 pm ET

I can see the lawsuits coming because of her creative math !!!!!!!

She's a power hungry control freak that feels entitled.

Vern   June 1st, 2008 8:46 pm ET

If Hillary Clinton doesn't win I will vote Rep. She is the only one smart enough to be President. Votes should count.

s.positive   June 1st, 2008 8:46 pm ET

HRC supporters, you now see how deluded you've been... Not anyones fault but yours because you bought a LIE

Anne   June 1st, 2008 8:45 pm ET

hasnt the fat lady been singing, screaming and god only knows what else. Hilary its time to bow out with the miniscule amount of dignity you have left

otis   June 1st, 2008 8:45 pm ET

Hillary is willing to wreck the party to win and willing to have a third Bush term to prove that she is "woman, here me roar". She feels she is "entilted" to be President because she was married to the philanderer and became a "New Yorker" overnight.

She needs to take her medicine because the delusion is back in full force.

Bob   June 1st, 2008 8:45 pm ET

One wonders how popular vote in Puerto Rico would count since the territory has no voting rights during the presidential election. I say count only the poluar vote from the 50 states who have voting rights during presidential elections.

Brian Knoxville, TN   June 1st, 2008 8:45 pm ET

The more that voters have gotten to know HIllary Clinton rather than the caricature of Hillary Clinton created by Republicans and people who call themselves Democrats but are not (anyone who calls Hillary Clinton evil is not a Democrat), THE MORE THEY HAVE VOTED FOR HER!

The more that voters have gotten to know about Barack Obama, well, you'll have to ask him about that...

HILLARY CLINTON '08

EVERY VOTE MUST COUNT AND BE REFLECTED FAIRLY

Gideon   June 1st, 2008 8:44 pm ET

Who in the world is footing the bills for these ads??
This is just becoming incomprehensible...

puzzled   June 1st, 2008 8:44 pm ET

puzzled about conclusions of this one: Real Clear Politics shows the O-man leading Hill by only about 30,000 votes after Puerto Rico today. If you give O all of the MI undecided and let Hill have her MI votes, she is the one ahead by about 50,000, not the O-man. Check it out; don't believe my reporting – and well, clearly don't just believe the CNN political ticker at face value.

YES WE CAN   June 1st, 2008 8:44 pm ET

SUPER DELEGATES

Please cast your votes. Hillary will do anything to destroy the Democratic Party. She doesn't have the popular vote if you count the Caucas Votes. She wants to disinfranchise everything one and everything that is not in her favor. Her ego and thirst for power is what she is after at any cost.

Barack Obama will be one of the greatest President's ever.

YES WE CAN – WHEN WE UNITE

maryann   June 1st, 2008 8:44 pm ET

I hope the superdelegates realize that Obama can not win the general election without her. The democratic party better hope she does agree to be V.P. or else they are in big trouble. If I were her I would not take it. She has been disrespected by them and the news media. The good old boys club(Kerry, Kennedy, Dodds, Richardson and Edwards ) made a big mistake. What did the endorsements do for him. Nothing. How does Richardson feel now after all he was in Puerto Rico was he not? She can outhink and outspeak Obama without a doubt. Go Hilliary you know you are the true winner no matter what happens.

Phil   June 1st, 2008 8:43 pm ET

Your last sentence is incomplete/leading. I don't believe these numbers include any of the caucuses, correct?

Daniel   June 1st, 2008 8:43 pm ET

Every vote counts unless you are from a state that has a caucus. Then it is O.K. not to count, because you are less of a citizen than the people in Puerto Rico. So says the Clintons, then so shall it be.

ginger   June 1st, 2008 8:43 pm ET

If I was supporting Hillary Clinton I would be really dissappointed in her. She wants to win so bad she claims only scenarios that favor her. She hasn't provided her supports with the facts, and in not doing so has mislead many of her supporters to believe the race belonged to her.

"But if Obama is awarded the uncommitted votes in Michigan, he comes out on top in the overall popular by 55,000 votes."

Sen. Clintions claim to lead in the popular vote is nothening but pandering because she excludes the FACTS that don't favor her. So sad.

John, OH   June 1st, 2008 8:43 pm ET

I submit that if we don't give Barrack the "uncomitted" vote in Michigan, then we don't give Clinton the vote she won in that state either.

D R   June 1st, 2008 8:42 pm ET

She won because she was favored all along to win PR. Her husband helped get all of their elected officials into office. This was reported at the very first of the season, before super Tuesday! So a win here is no big deal. She continues to proclaim the total vote champ, but she has a very interesting way of getting there. She had a fit that the uncommitted Michigan votes were given to OBama. She says nothing about being the only one on the ticket, all of the others, including Obama followed the rules, and didn't put their name on the ballot. She didn't count caucus states, and say's she won Texas, even when they really split it!

The good news, Obama got more super delegates today! After he beats her in the two remaining contest, the rest of the supers will jump his way. I'd bet most of them on Wednesday. After that if she continues to divide the party, it will be obvious that she is working for McCain. And if she gets McCain elected, If her faithful voters string this deadly war out, then her career will be finished! Thank Goodness.

eliot from chicago   June 1st, 2008 8:42 pm ET

She can't count!. She only leads if you don't count caucus states, which is a lot of states.

Spin, spin, spin.

Obama 08: Female, 60, white   June 1st, 2008 8:42 pm ET

How is she paying for these ads and all of her travels?? No one seems concerned that this campaign is running on less than empty both in $$ .

Hillary 2 Victory   June 1st, 2008 8:42 pm ET

If the superdelegates put Obama over the top-they will have DEFIED the WILL OF THE PEOPLE.....

and we will see the Bush 2000 scenario all over again...

Way to go, Howard Dean. YOu're stupid system has made a joke out of democracy.

HILLARY
WINS
POPULAR VOTE
TRUE WILL OF THE PEOPLE

Cynthia   June 1st, 2008 8:42 pm ET

She is using her own math – not that being kept by the DNC and even that by CNN and other news outlets.

Mike   June 1st, 2008 8:42 pm ET

To bad it's pledged delegate totals that make the nominee....Go away Hillary

Donna   June 1st, 2008 8:42 pm ET

The number of votes between the candidates is miniscule, which means that we have to take this thing to the convention and pick the candidate who can beat McCain. When I look at the states that usually go Republican, I note that Obama wins. When I look at traditionally Democratic states, it's usually Hillary that wins. So what does that say...it says that the delegates at the Democratic convention need to look long and hard at the reality of who can really WIN. For the good of this country we have to get someone who can beat the Republican candidate. When you look at it in this light, it becomes pretty clear who we're talking about.

Ken   June 1st, 2008 8:41 pm ET

I would have to say that we ALL DO KNOW that Hillary Clinton HAS WON the popular vote!

There are way too many unknowns about Barack Hussein Obama, that the American people don't know about the man that spent 20 years in a church that truly spread racial and other remarks against our great country. And just by saying that you have left the church, and I must say that it was only for political reasons, will not change the fact that he DID spend over 20 years listening and being a part of that propaganda

WAKE UP AMERICA! Hillary Clinton has won the popular vote and should become the nominee, so that in November she CAN beat McCain, and go on to take the White House back!

Hillary Clinton 2008.

Bill   June 1st, 2008 8:41 pm ET

I do not want a President who is no different than Bush. Will this woman ever speak the truth? What kind of message does she send to other countries? I'm sure they don't want to deal with a proven liar. What has happened to our moral fiber? Is lying the way to do business these days?

Sammy   June 1st, 2008 8:41 pm ET

Whew! THANK THE LORD that Hillary recognizes that the superdelegates matter. If she hadn't recognized that, then we'd all be in a lot of trouble. She might still snap her fingers and crown herself queen of America. Watch out!

- Sammy
Boston, MA

Mike, Ontario Canada   June 1st, 2008 8:40 pm ET

... legal or not, valid or not...disgusting certainly (not the race, but CNN)

i am not dump   June 1st, 2008 8:40 pm ET

i will never vote for a crying looser like hillary.

Informed voter from florida   June 1st, 2008 8:40 pm ET

The most resounding sentiments on these boards are from belligerent Obama supporters who insist on bad mouthing and lashing out at Hillary supporters for refusing to support their candidate.
Since when do these 50% representing Democrats have the right to demand and bully others into supporting someone they do NOT trust. It's not about race, it's about grown adults using their intelligence to make an informed decision. There are millions of us who have researched and followed Obama and we simply don't entrust our country to him. Period. End of story. Stop trying to force or guilt me into voting your way.

Richard, FL   June 1st, 2008 8:40 pm ET

Hillary told NPR: "Michigan doesn't count". Now she has proven not to tell the truth and claims it counts. She had agreed to the rules and now is crying that she shouldn't have to follow the rules. The only way she can pretend she is ahead is to claim that not one person in Michigan would vote for Obama. AND she claims that he is trying to steal the nomination. Let's all get back to the real and HONEST world.

Funkemariechen   June 1st, 2008 8:40 pm ET

How about the people who voted in caucaus states. Do they add to the "popular vote"? And how do you count 'em?

New Day   June 1st, 2008 8:40 pm ET

Why is she doing this? This is not unity. She is not winning the popular vote and this is why:

1. Caucuses are not counted in her totals
2. Michigan results are not an accurate representation of the vote.
3. Not all states are equal. If the popular vote mattered, then all states would have open primaries.

lets not ruin the greatest primary election in my lifetime by making unfair statements like these just to cause dissension and division

Beth   June 1st, 2008 8:40 pm ET

I suppose Obama could make the same claim, since he has more popular votes than she does.

Reminder to everyone.

Hillary had no objections to the ruling of the DNC in 2007 when they decided NOT to seat Michigan and Florida delegates at the convention because they broke the rules. She signed the commitment to abide by DNC rules.

Of course, that was when she thought she was the heir apparent to the nomination.

lol   June 1st, 2008 8:39 pm ET

take it to the convention hillary. the rules commitee should be ashamed over giving obama MI delegates, and then took 4 of hillary's. the only way obama can win is if the crooked democratic party cheats a win for him. he can't even beat hillary to close the deal. he will never win the general against mccain.

The Lady   June 1st, 2008 8:39 pm ET

The only way you can let all the votes count for FL and MI is to have a recount, what about the people who did not vote because they were told the votes would not count. Counting some of the votes was better than counting none. You just can not please some people.

Barbara - 65 yr old white female in NC   June 1st, 2008 8:39 pm ET

They've won approximately the same number of votes in primaries.

He has won all but one or two of the caucuses.

He has won more states.

He has more pledged delegates.

He has more superdelegates.

He has NO CAMPAIGN DEBT FOLLOWING HIM AROUND.

Think, people.

She lies even when documentation disproves her lies–

“We need a president who will put us back on the path to fiscal responsibility,” she said. “I am the only candidate running who has told you specifically how I will pay for everything I propose because I want you to hold me accountable.”

There are a couple of problems with this claim, though. First, her campaign is approximately $20 million in debt, even after she loaned over $11 million of her own money to the cause. Several vendors and suppliers have come forward to say they are owed money by the campaign, and her former chief strategist, Mark Penn, is owed $5 million for his services before he parted ways with Clinton.

Second, Clinton received more than five times the number of earmarks than any other senator, according Taxpayers for Common Sense. Their report also found that Clinton is responsible for receiving over $2 billion in earmarks from 2002 to 2006, which is more than either Barack Obama or John McCain.

Susan/PA   June 1st, 2008 8:39 pm ET

Where is she getting the money to finance her fuzzy math.

How come no one at CNN reported the 30,000 plus write in votes in MI that were for Obama????

Where was the reporting about the 2 Clinton supporters (both women) that shoved around 2 male Obama supporters yesterday at the DNC meeting just because they both had Obama buttons on???

Can someone answer WHY PR even gets to vote in the primaries? They have their own constitution & dont pay federal taxes. Please explain.

Come on CNN..Post this......

Emily   June 1st, 2008 8:38 pm ET

She'll lead alright.. In her dreams!!!

Give it up Hillary and bow out now before its to late.

Oh wait. It is already to late. Just go away.

Elizabeth   June 1st, 2008 8:37 pm ET

Popular vote? Sure she's gotten it... in her dreams though, ha, ha. Whatever happened to those caucus states? If she thinks she will dismiss their efforts now and will get their votes come November, she is even crazier than I thought!

Hmmm   June 1st, 2008 8:37 pm ET

It is quite curious that her popular vote discounts those states with a caucus ... but every vote counts, right?

Piero   June 1st, 2008 8:36 pm ET

That's some fuzzy math there Hill...

Sara from Arizona   June 1st, 2008 8:36 pm ET

Here we go. The ego of this person knows no bounds. Setting out to destroy a legal nomination of Obama. Obama 08'

J.L.   June 1st, 2008 8:35 pm ET

I hate to put it in these terms, but this reminds me of the run up to the war in Iraq. Say something enough times (e.g. there are WMDs in Iraq), with the hope that people will believe it to be the truth...

Aaron   June 1st, 2008 8:35 pm ET

Absolute insanity.

Marie Everett   June 1st, 2008 8:35 pm ET

Sen Clinton cares enough about this country that she wants to keep that sorry BO from being elected. She understands like most of us do what a terrible crisis will follow should he be elected, a catastrophe in the democrat party as so many dems would leave the party –only a few Americans are far enough left to be satisfied with what comes with a socialist/racist regime in Washington.

Heather Peterson   June 1st, 2008 8:34 pm ET

According to 'Meet the Press' today, her claim in the new ad that she's won 17 million votes or more than Obama is an exaggeration at best. I hope this is over by Tuesday. Severe Clinton fatigue here.

Derrick, WA   June 1st, 2008 8:34 pm ET

She's Not Winning. She's only fooling herself to think so. Obama has been winning all along and he's still winning. He holds the commanding lead and there's no way Hillary can try to snatch that away. She is way too far behind, so that translates into.....well, a lie. She cannot claim to have something she never had to begin with.

Reality   June 1st, 2008 8:34 pm ET

CRAZZZZZZY HILLARY is gonna Lose it for the DEMOCRATS in November !!!! :(

Barbara - 65 yr old white female in NC   June 1st, 2008 8:34 pm ET

She lies even when documentation disproves her lies–

“We need a president who will put us back on the path to fiscal responsibility,” she said. “I am the only candidate running who has told you specifically how I will pay for everything I propose because I want you to hold me accountable.”

There are a couple of problems with this claim, though. First, her campaign is approximately $20 million in debt, even after she loaned over $11 million of her own money to the cause. Several vendors and suppliers have come forward to say they are owed money by the campaign, and her former chief strategist, Mark Penn, is owed $5 million for his services before he parted ways with Clinton.

Second, Clinton received more than five times the number of earmarks than any other senator, according Taxpayers for Common Sense. Their report also found that Clinton is responsible for receiving over $2 billion in earmarks from 2002 to 2006, which is more than either Barack Obama or John McCain.

-Chris   June 1st, 2008 8:31 pm ET

"If all the primary results including Florida and Michigan are counted, but not the caucus votes, Clinton leads in the popular vote 17,461,845 to Obama's 17,244,762, according to CNN estimates."

"In a second scenario, which adds in CNN's estimate of the caucus-goers, Obama leads Clinton 17,928,000 to 17,843,000."

To claim that Clinton has the popular vote is simply a bald faced lie. "I have the popular vote when you count the state where I was the only one on the ballot, and don't count any of the caucus states." Sounds like a winning argument that will surely win over those 96% of remaining superdelegates that Clinton needs.

Oh, by the way, Gallup polling's latest national poll of democratic-leaning voters has Obama up 10% over Clinton (52% to 42%). Yea, Clinton sure has the "will of the people." LOL.

Get this loser outta here.

CanadianforObama   June 1st, 2008 8:31 pm ET

CHANGE THE RULES TILL I WIN!

Ed, Santa Fe, NM   June 1st, 2008 8:29 pm ET

SHUT HER UP AND SEND HER PACKING.... WHAT A MEGALOMANIAC

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