June 4th, 2008
04:17 PM ET
6 years ago

Clinton backer – and VP prospect – tries to cool joint ticket talk

Rendell has been a powerful Clinton surrogate.
Rendell has been a powerful Clinton surrogate.

(CNN) - Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell – one of Hillary Clinton’s staunchest supporters – said bluntly Wednesday that the New York senator was in no position to bargain with presumptive Democratic nominee Barack Obama.

“There’s no bargaining. You don't bargain with the presidential nominee,” Rendell told NY1. “Even if you're Hillary Clinton and you have 18 million votes, you don't bargain.”

Rendell – the governor of a major November battleground state who has often been mentioned as a possible vice presidential pick – said Obama would need to be an “enormously big person” to invite Clinton to join him on the ticket.

But in a reversal from earlier statements – and remarks at odds with recent comments from many major Clinton supporters – Rendell seemed to signal that a joint ticket featuring the party’s two candidates was not ideal.

He said that if Clinton were Obama’s running mate, her husband - former President Bill Clinton - could be a wild card during the general election.

“The Obama campaign would have to make strict rules, you know, about what President Clinton could and could not do during the campaign...” said Rendell. “For example, the Obama campaign would have to control his schedule - where he would go into, what states.”

“You know, normally politicians don't want to be outshone. Well you know you've got Bill Clinton lurking in the background. But Hillary Clinton, a very charismatic figure for many Americans - generally a lot of politicians don't like to put somebody like that on the ticket," he added.

"You know rule one for the vice president is make sure you never upstage the president, right? It’s rule one. You know, Hillary Clinton in some ways couldn't help but upstage, even if she was trying not to.”

In an interview two months ago, Rendell responded to a question about the prospect of a joint ticket with a much different reaction. “I can’t speak for Senator Clinton, but I would love that,” he told ABC News, calling Clinton and Obama "a history-making duo.”

soundoff (221 Responses)
  1. Berce48

    I have the feeling that the only winner here is John McCain. After 40 years voting for a Democrat I will vote Republican next November.
    God bless Hillary and god bless America.

    June 4, 2008 07:21 pm at 7:21 pm |
  2. RICARDO PHILLIPS OF D.C

    Hillary Clinton can not run as an independent. For all of you Clinton supporters get that through you head if she even attempts she will lose all respect as a Senator and would be the biggest upset in history and would become the target to be ousted by Congress to the utmost.She would lose all credibility and I guarantee Bill would not even stand for that cause it would destroy the Clinton name worse than all scandals The Clintons have been involved in,

    June 4, 2008 07:21 pm at 7:21 pm |
  3. Rob

    Hillary Supporters still talking trash about Obama..IT IS OVER!!! She is not the nominee and has no power over what Obama does. The voters that supported her will not hold this party for ransom for he selfish run at the white house.

    June 4, 2008 07:21 pm at 7:21 pm |
  4. Rob R

    RB TX: I can't begin to count the number of nefarious business dealings with crooks that the Clinton's have dealth with. Get over it. She lost. Stop acting like a 2 year old. My 2 year old son acts better than that.

    June 4, 2008 07:21 pm at 7:21 pm |
  5. Cayman

    RB TX AND POLITICS:

    Is easy to sit there and judge...go back in history and look up the clintons and all those folks that somehow died in some trajic event. How they the clintons make so much money in so little time. Lets look at the reality of all this. The clintons have alot of garbage in their closets, but none of it came up during her campaign.

    What does Obama have...a guy that was doing fraud..a pastor that lived through segregation, abuse and many other things and preaches the way he does because of it.

    What exactly do you have on him...NOTHING. Definetly not dead bodies hanging around and millions of dollars in the bank.

    June 4, 2008 07:21 pm at 7:21 pm |
  6. Peggy - Tx

    re: RB TX

    Are you a Republican?

    Obama returned the money provided by this scum-bag, the amount of money he returned is much less then the money Hillary returned for similar reasons. Just go join the Republicans, you will find lost of comrades and easily deluded losers in that ever shrinking crowd.

    June 4, 2008 07:22 pm at 7:22 pm |
  7. Kaylee

    Ed makes a very good and strong VP for Obama!
    He is a smart choice...

    June 4, 2008 07:23 pm at 7:23 pm |
  8. jason twombley-missouri

    Hillary would lie, cheat and sell her soul to get the power...of president or veep.......best thing for America is disappear Hillary AND Bill...end of subject.....no liars or manipulators wanted

    June 4, 2008 07:23 pm at 7:23 pm |
  9. donnahj

    Yes, Hillary should run as Independent Dmocrat, She has all to do it, and WE-Her supporters are supporting that IDEA!!!
    DNC betray HEr complitely and in most ugly way as WE saw it. Now DNC have Obama and Michelle, and all treators, and let them have a fun together. That is begining of a new DNC era.
    Hillary run as INDEPENDENT, just like Mr.Barr will as Libertarian. You will officjally congratulated Obama, as You should, time to be Friends again. I sure, that They should keep talking, and discus some strategies. But for Hillary is time to move ON, and do what is the best for US and USA.
    DNC lost my respect, and I am done with them.

    June 4, 2008 07:23 pm at 7:23 pm |
  10. Ludovic

    This guy is just an opportunist

    June 4, 2008 07:24 pm at 7:24 pm |
  11. Nunya

    Everyone remember that you have no clue who really is behind the comments you write here. The people with the most to gain from Democratic in-fighting are the Republicans. So you can bet that you see a lot of them posing as Hillary supporters or Obama supporters and posting things to create wrong impressions and start arguments.

    Just because you read a nasty comment here, don't believe that supporters on the other side actually are the ones saying it.

    June 4, 2008 07:24 pm at 7:24 pm |
  12. Wayne

    The Democratic race went south after Obama had a 11-0 run. The media and Super Delegates refused to end the race after Wisconnsin when the race was clearly over.

    THE KITCHEN SINK STRATEGY.

    Thats when the race turned unbelievably negative.

    June 4, 2008 07:24 pm at 7:24 pm |
  13. JJ in NY

    Big mistake...hillary is a loser and wooulf ruin the ticket.

    I would NEVER vote for a ticket that had any Clinton on it .

    June 4, 2008 07:25 pm at 7:25 pm |
  14. Abbey

    For those who want Hillary to run as an independent – who do you think is going to pay for it? You need funding for that and I doubt any of her fellow democrats are going to give money when it would split their party.

    June 4, 2008 07:25 pm at 7:25 pm |
  15. al

    Obama needs Hillary as his VP more than she needs him because:

    - Obama represents change without substance, and he will lose out to Mccain in the general election,

    - Many of Obama's supporters in the primaries are actually republicans who thought obama is a easier target and will dop Obama like a hot potato during the general election, and

    - Obama needs Hillary's voters and delegates.

    June 4, 2008 07:25 pm at 7:25 pm |
  16. Anita

    RB TX quotes the news of "CHICAGO – A prominent fundraiser for Sen. Barack Obama and Gov. Rod Blagojevich was convicted Wednesday of fraud and money laundering after a high-profile federal trial provided an unusually detailed glimpse of the pay-to-play politics that has made Illinois infamous."

    He left the part out about Obama donating all the contribution money from that fundraiser to charity and didn't use for his campaign. There you go again, taking half the story and spinning it.

    June 4, 2008 07:26 pm at 7:26 pm |
  17. APAGILAGAN

    The most abused person on this planet is Mrs. Clinton. You all of you who pretend to be bias reporter are all guilty. If she even burp you are all on her back. You are all Anti Clinton
    Cafferty, a fewwomen.like Borger. and other reporters who plant and feed into the public your opinion which are not facts .and play & play over over again what kind of human beings are youYou are all like school bullies who love to crush someone down. G Borger you are a woman there will come a time when you will feel what hurt you have put this woman through and especially the high and mighty Cafferty who acts so high and mighty.you could be another IMUS or a Russ LIM
    There was a discussion that she played her gender when in fact when she said Wesley prepared me from this kind of challenge in life all of you jump on her.. Well I am just trying to be fair but you are all Clinton Haters

    June 4, 2008 07:26 pm at 7:26 pm |
  18. Tony, Miami

    This should be Obama decision. After her speech last night I would say she doesn't diserve to be on the ticket. A lot of people think it's a dream ticket maybe for Hillary not for Obama. Probably she started to make plans to fire all the employees of the travel office and then barge in the oval office to protest as if the decision was his and as if she was the #1. In her speech last time she deliberately sent signals that I consider as threats about her almost 18 millions supporters and finally she send them at her webside to help her decide whether may be to go to Denver. I hope her supporters suggest to go to Denver and make a fool out of herself.

    June 4, 2008 07:26 pm at 7:26 pm |
  19. Montana is Obama Country

    Rendell- (He said that if Clinton were Obama’s running mate, her husband — former President Bill Clinton — could be a wild card during the general election.
    “The Obama campaign would have to make strict rules, you know, about what President Clinton could and could not do during the campaign…” said Rendell. “For example, the Obama campaign would have to control his schedule — where he would go into, what states.”)

    Barack does NOt have time to be a glorified babystitter for the former President and his indiscretions...

    Get Over the nightmare ticket...
    Not everybody thinks it's a good IDEA..... We don't need her dishonesty to win the whitehouse.. Barack has been doing pretty darn good so far without her..

    Say...Later Hillary.... Not Now... Not Ever.........

    June 4, 2008 07:27 pm at 7:27 pm |
  20. Steve

    I really hope that the hold-out Clinton supporters come around. Hillary has lost the nomination. She has no way to gain it back. When it comes to nominations, you don't get do-overs. She will not perform a magic trick at the Democratic convention. It is completely and totally over for her, as far as the nomination goes.

    If you've been thinking of writing Hillary's name in, don't. Write ins never work. No one, except in very small town politics, has ever won on a write in campaign. Hillary won't either.

    If you have been threatening to vote McCain is she does not win you probably know it will be 4 more years of Bush policies if he wins. If you like that, please immediately register as a Republican. Now is your chance to prove to us that you aren't a whiner, and that you do what you say you will do. Also, please send him 50 dollars right now. Put your money where your mouth is, or SHUT THE HELL UP.

    June 4, 2008 07:28 pm at 7:28 pm |
  21. Monroe

    Hillary would not take kindly to you people voting for McCain, FYI.

    Obama for president!
    Hillary for Secretary of Health and Human Services!!!

    June 4, 2008 07:28 pm at 7:28 pm |
  22. donnahj

    2008election for Hillary as INDEPENDENTT!!

    June 4, 2008 07:28 pm at 7:28 pm |
  23. NickNas

    I totally agree but Hillary and Bill reallly do think they are above all others and have the right to bargain with the Presidential nominee. I wonder if it comes from so many years of the two of them bargaining with others and useing their offices as negotiateing tools.

    June 4, 2008 07:29 pm at 7:29 pm |
  24. andy dufrain

    RB TX

    again to you.. why don't you look at Peter Paul v Hillary Clinton. Obama has known Tony Rezko, that true.. but is there any allegations or proof that he was part of anything sinister..

    Wake up and good Whitewater if you are not clued up about politics..
    While your at it google Monica Lewinsky too..

    You make me sick.. I don't know if I will vote for Obama or McCain but I think some of you Hillary supporters are full of it.. you need to get a live.. if you don't want to vote for Obama then fine but why say you will go for McCain.. I think before you do that you should register with the Republicans.. show your true colours.. then again I also have some doubts as to your current status.. maybe you are a republican in disguise..

    No Hillary VP, Go Obama.. even if you lose the election because of this.. principals are more important than being blackmailed!

    June 4, 2008 07:29 pm at 7:29 pm |
  25. Jason

    While I like the idea, I can completely understand if Obama decides to go another way. Having Bill lurking in the shadows may not be worth the advantages Hillary brings to the table.

    June 4, 2008 07:29 pm at 7:29 pm |
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