June 4th, 2008
04:17 PM ET
6 years ago

Clinton backer – and VP prospect – tries to cool joint ticket talk

Rendell has been a powerful Clinton surrogate.
Rendell has been a powerful Clinton surrogate.

(CNN) - Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell – one of Hillary Clinton’s staunchest supporters – said bluntly Wednesday that the New York senator was in no position to bargain with presumptive Democratic nominee Barack Obama.

“There’s no bargaining. You don't bargain with the presidential nominee,” Rendell told NY1. “Even if you're Hillary Clinton and you have 18 million votes, you don't bargain.”

Rendell – the governor of a major November battleground state who has often been mentioned as a possible vice presidential pick – said Obama would need to be an “enormously big person” to invite Clinton to join him on the ticket.

But in a reversal from earlier statements – and remarks at odds with recent comments from many major Clinton supporters – Rendell seemed to signal that a joint ticket featuring the party’s two candidates was not ideal.

He said that if Clinton were Obama’s running mate, her husband - former President Bill Clinton - could be a wild card during the general election.

“The Obama campaign would have to make strict rules, you know, about what President Clinton could and could not do during the campaign...” said Rendell. “For example, the Obama campaign would have to control his schedule - where he would go into, what states.”

“You know, normally politicians don't want to be outshone. Well you know you've got Bill Clinton lurking in the background. But Hillary Clinton, a very charismatic figure for many Americans - generally a lot of politicians don't like to put somebody like that on the ticket," he added.

"You know rule one for the vice president is make sure you never upstage the president, right? It’s rule one. You know, Hillary Clinton in some ways couldn't help but upstage, even if she was trying not to.”

In an interview two months ago, Rendell responded to a question about the prospect of a joint ticket with a much different reaction. “I can’t speak for Senator Clinton, but I would love that,” he told ABC News, calling Clinton and Obama "a history-making duo.”

soundoff (221 Responses)
  1. roxanne

    June 4th, 2008 6:53 pm ET

    CHICAGO – A prominent fundraiser for Sen. Barack Obama and Gov. Rod Blagojevich was convicted Wednesday of fraud and money laundering after a high-profile federal trial provided an unusually detailed glimpse of the pay-to-play politics that has made Illinois infamous.

    "CHANGE" we can believe in. Yeah Right!!!
    Obama is just another slick and mirror politician who says one thing and does another.

    Go Hillary, if not Hillary go McCain

    DID YOU WATCH THE ENTIRE REPORT? OBAMA WAS NOT LINKED TO ANY OF THIS. I KNOW IT'S HARD FOR DELUSIONAL PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND HILLARY BUT IT'S OVER. SHE'S CONCEDING ON FRIDAY!
    IDIOT!

    June 4, 2008 07:38 pm at 7:38 pm |
  2. Charles

    One issue to consider is that Clinton's supporters helped to draw up the rules that governed this last primary season. The cry for let every vote count only started occurring when Clinton got rid of her initial set of managers (who got her in the loosing position). It was the only way they could possibly get the election.

    As Donna Brazile said...changing the rules in the middle or the end is called cheating.

    June 4, 2008 07:39 pm at 7:39 pm |
  3. carey shenfield

    Hillary has shown that she truly cares about only one thing...Hillary.

    Please exit stage left gracefully and don't let the door hit you on the way out. Salvage what little credibility you have left for your future political aspirations.

    June 4, 2008 07:39 pm at 7:39 pm |
  4. jimmy

    I agree... I am a staunch supporter of Hillary's but I don't think she should consider the VP position and frankly I hope Obama doesn't offer it to her.

    She needs to stay as far away from him as possible. She has proven she can carry the important states with the electoral college math and if she stays focused she can run in 2012...

    As long as her supporters vote McCain so she can run against him in four years. My vote now goes to the second best candidate – McCain.

    June 4, 2008 07:40 pm at 7:40 pm |
  5. Billy J Austin, TX

    oh man.. you will lose the south for sure if you pick Rendel .... he is the epitome of northern backroom politics.... completely repulsive to change, populist, or southern minded dems..... He looks like he should be doing infomercials

    June 4, 2008 07:40 pm at 7:40 pm |
  6. WOMAN THAT BELIEVES HILLARY IS A PARTY SPOILER!

    I really don't know for sure what Rendell's objective is, but I do agree with him one this issue, neither Hillary or Bill needs to be anywhere around Obama or the White House not because I think they could upstage him, but because I don't trust either of them I feel that they would do their best to destroy him in some way or other and the thought of them lurking around with the desperate desire to be in power again is too scary, if you know what I mean.

    Hillary has overstepped ALL bounds period her conduct last night is beyond a "lookover." I feel it is best that she pack up and go somewhere out of sight. The Clintons have ruined their reputations in trying to ruin Obama, this lastes stunt has made them repulsive to say the least! It is said that they has made it impossible for Obama to select her as VP, if that is true I can only thank God for that.

    Lou Dobbs should be taken off the air or at least placed where he would best fit in on FOX. He had revived his dead career of the backs and tears of the Mexican cummunity, he is just as repulsive as Hillary they both use and hurt people to get what they want!

    June 4, 2008 07:40 pm at 7:40 pm |
  7. gary

    KEEP UP THE HATING. THATS WHY O.B. WILL LOOSE IN NOV. YOU HATERS RUINED YOUR CANIDATES CHANCES. OBAMA SPEAKS UNITY ,AND YOU YOUNG SUPPORTERS ARE JUST FULL OF HATE.IF HE COULD READ HIS SUPPORTERS HATE AGAINST THE CLINTONS AND HER SUPPORTERS. HE WOULDNT THINK TO MUCH OF HIS YOUNG SUPPORTERS. POLITICS YOU DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO , TO WIN. OBAMA PLAYED REAL DIRTY CHICAGO POLITICS. IF O.B. WANTS HRC FOR VP. ITS NONE OF YOU SUPPORTERS BUSINESS. HE KNOWS THEY WOULD BE UNBEATABLE, AND SHE IS THE BEST CHOICE. OBAMA ADMIRES AND PRAISES HRC. YOU YOUNG SUPPORTERS ARE JUST HATE.KEEP HATING AND IT WILL BE YOUR FAUGHT'S WHY O.B. LOOSES IN NOV. WE ARE GETTING SICK OF YOU IMMATURE HATERS. WE WILL ALL VOTE MCCAIN. OBAMA NEEDS HRC MORE THAN SHE NEEDS HIM. YOU HATERS BETTER THINK HARD AND START GIVING CREDIT AND RESPECT TO HRC. YOU O.B. SUPPORTERS AND CLINTON HATERS RUINED THIS WHOLE RACE ALONG WITH THE MEDIA, DNC, PRESS AND SUPER DELIGATES THAT FIXED THIS RACE BECAUSE OF BIAS AGAINST A WOMAN PRESIDENT. WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND. KEEP HATING ,BECAUSE YOU YOUNG O.B. VOTERS REALLY SHOW YOUR MORTALITY. ATLEAST MCCAIN'S VOTERS AND HRC'S VOTERS DONT HATE.AMERICA GETS WHAT THEY ASK FOR.

    June 4, 2008 07:40 pm at 7:40 pm |
  8. Independent Voter

    Good to know John WA what's good for feminists. Hillary might surprise everyone if she ran as an Independent. She might win! Actually, I don't think she'd win. I think John McCain would. Fine with me. I'm more than happy to give it all up for spite. You Obama fans taught me all about spite.

    June 4, 2008 07:40 pm at 7:40 pm |
  9. roxanne

    politics June 4th, 2008 7:02 pm ET

    the future looks gloomy now. Hillary would put us back up, but this young and already involved in so much heavy baggage will not do. He is there for himself and his wife. Not for us.
    Hillary, please, stay and run whatever way you can.

    It's morons like you who make it easy for Obama supporters to ridicule you! In his speech last night Obama repeated that this election was not about him, Hillary or McCain. He said it's about the American people. Meanwhile that graceless cow asked her supporters to go to HER website and tell her what to do – translation, help me pay of my campaign debt. I guess $109 million just doesn't go as far as it use to. What kind of suckers are you people?

    June 4, 2008 07:41 pm at 7:41 pm |
  10. kim

    what do you people mean "it's not over" until Denver?" It has been over for a while, and if you keep up with your complaints and threats, the Ds will lose in a year that the Rs should have no chance of winning. Turn your irrational venom on McCain, don't let him pander to you while going against you on every substantive issue. "TRueBLue", yeah that is funny -

    June 4, 2008 07:42 pm at 7:42 pm |
  11. Annette

    That's what friends are for.

    June 4, 2008 07:42 pm at 7:42 pm |
  12. Elizabeth, NC

    Definitely not. What is this nonsense from all the Clinton supporters about putting her on the ticket. Always wanting to steal the limelight from people. This the nations history making week, let the spotlight be on the history maker not some pathetic loser who refuses to accept the actual not inevitable facts. By the way I don't think Obama is considering that either.

    June 4, 2008 07:42 pm at 7:42 pm |
  13. Honestlady

    @Pchapin....Do you think it was fair that Hillary was awarded delegates in an election where Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot?

    The point i'm trying to make is in this situation, it is just as fair for Barack Obama to have received the uncommitted vote as it was for Hillary to receive delegates based on the election results where Obama's name was not even on the ticket and they were told it wasn't going to count!!! The only true FAIR thing would have been to award them both with NOTHING from Michigan.

    June 4, 2008 07:43 pm at 7:43 pm |
  14. pam Eugene OR

    There is talk of Hillary running as an Independent. She is broke. How would she finance that? Her ardent supporters don't seem willing to give her anything but moral support. We Obama supporters put our money where our mouths are!

    June 4, 2008 07:44 pm at 7:44 pm |
  15. jim

    Put yourself in her position, after so many months of hard work it is not that easy to give up. That is the difference between people like us who can just simply write rude comments and people like Clinton and Obama. They are up there doing the real hard work. Give her some time to think and plan

    I am actually hoping she wont join Obama as VP and would like to see the millions disappointed in him losing the November elections. It will be more hard for him to win the Nov. elections without her.

    June 4, 2008 07:44 pm at 7:44 pm |
  16. TBone

    Delusion is running completely rampant. There are very few realistic scenarios for the fringe of the Clinton support. Hilary running as an independent makes you feel good, and puts McCain in. Aging liberals on the SC replaced by McCain Republicans and a commitment to another 100 years in Iraq. Sounds like a winner.

    Hilary sits out this election without strongly supporting Obama, McCain wins and Hilary runs in 2012. Under that scenario, why would Obama supporters come out in '12 and support Clinton? This is a pipe dream.

    Quid pro quo. Obama's backers include the most loyal group of voters in the history of American politics. Souring the process and not supporting Obama will guarantee that African-American participation in the Democratic party will subside. This effectively splits off a chunk of the most loyal 20% of the party for a generation, and would likely deny a Democratic President for at least the next 3 election cycles.

    Your candidate lost. Live with it and rally around what unites us, or destroy the party. It's your choice.

    June 4, 2008 07:44 pm at 7:44 pm |
  17. Dan in Illinois

    Fellow Democrats; "United we stand, divided we fall."

    Fighting amongst ourselves at this point won't do a thing, except weaken our chances to initiate real changes come November– which I think we all need.

    Venting disappointment is one thing; but checking that little box in November is quite a different matter, when we consider what is at stake for our country and future.

    June 4, 2008 07:45 pm at 7:45 pm |
  18. grace paterson

    Can't stand Obama or his wife,too slick for me,already stomped on a woman in his first race. Go Hillary, Go McCain!!!

    June 4, 2008 07:45 pm at 7:45 pm |
  19. kim

    Glen your schizophrenitc post makes no sense – do you agree with Rendell or not?

    June 4, 2008 07:45 pm at 7:45 pm |
  20. CONCERN NEW YORKER

    YOU ARE SO RIGHT NUNYA, BUT THESE MEAN SPIRITED PEOPLE DOSEN'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT THEY DOING.

    June 4, 2008 07:45 pm at 7:45 pm |
  21. Charles

    Glen, Cary, NC

    Rendell was saying that if you are the winner, you do not bargain with those who have lost.

    The winner sets the tone, not those who lose.

    June 4, 2008 07:46 pm at 7:46 pm |
  22. Barbara

    Are you people voting for whatis best for your country, or Hillary?
    I will tell you this, Hillary with all her millions is not thinking about
    you or anyone else but Hillary, my God you people act like and sound likes fools, this is your country and you better get it together and stop letting a person color make you cut off your nose to spite your face, because that is all you will be doing, I personally don't think Obama
    need your votes anyway, he won the General without it, didn't he?
    The woman lied, lied time and time again, self-serving, I< I< I that is all i heard from her for what seem like forever. All Hillary is worried about is that court trial regarding her husband & Peter Paul, that was
    extended until after the election, she was so sure that she was going to win and be excluded from testifying, ha, ha, what now all you Hillary\
    fool lovers?

    June 4, 2008 07:47 pm at 7:47 pm |
  23. kentucky

    If he wants our votes he better pick her or he can kiss em bye bye.

    June 4, 2008 07:47 pm at 7:47 pm |
  24. Joe Fazio

    There remains one sure bet in this country; "get to the
    top, and people will relish your fall." So it goes it sports,
    entertainment, politics, etc.

    Hillary Clinton was hit with everything but the kitchen sink
    during this primary. I suggest the media, in general, put
    much of the blood in the water, attracking sharks from
    every sector of the voting public. Why? Simple. Without
    disagreement, and rancor, the ratings plumpet!

    Senator Clinton stood tall during those unrelenting
    and unjustified attacks. Yes, there were time when
    she justly deserved the berbal beating she received,
    however, there were MORE TIME when it was completely
    unjustified.

    From the beginning Mr Obams was the faired haired
    boy, i.e., david and golieth. It's easy to root for the
    underdog–but it this case, I believe the media took
    it much to far.

    I like Mr Obama, but one must admit, as far as experience,
    he a little light in the sneakers. Yeah, the guys a great
    orator–but can he talk our country into better times?

    I believe we gonna elect this man. Hey, how much worse
    can he do than the Bush administration?

    June 4, 2008 07:47 pm at 7:47 pm |
  25. Probama

    I was astounded by the positive media coverage of Hilary's speech at the AIPAC pro-Israel conference. Obama made some extremely complimentary remarks about Hilary in the opening remarks of his speech. Obama went out of his way to compliment Hilary. He is the presumptive nominee! She made a few obligatory friendly comments about Obama in the middle of her speech – almost as an afterthought. She then went on to dictate the issues that she felt the next president of the US would need to address.

    This woman is too centered on her own importance to be trusted as VP.

    June 4, 2008 07:48 pm at 7:48 pm |
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