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I have supported Obama. But, if he picks Hillary as VP. I will vote for McCain.

Ah hell! Ed Rendell is laying down truth like this! I'm stunned.

And I could actually consider Hillary for VP but the Bill factor is what scares the crap out of me.

The only politician I have any respect for anymore, other than Hillary Clinton, is Joe Biden. He lived up to his word not to endorse either candidate until a nominee was chosen, and he kept his word. Biden was my second choice after Hillary all along. Another good politician who had a remark taken out of context by the pro Obama press and didn't have a chance of winning the nomination after.

Thats a hoot. Rendell and Hillary in a Cat Fight ver the VP spot. Yeeow!

Hey TrueBlue,

Thats an idiot statement even from a Hillary supporter.

No need to seek a VP Candidate OBAMA!!! (McCain wins in NOV)

MCCAIN AND THE REPS TO WIN IN NOVEMBER

I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

HILLARY, YOU STILL THE BEST I WISH YOU COULD RUN ASN SINDEPENDENT.
HILLARY 08

If Clinton is the VP at least we can have some hope of her moving into the top spot.

Don't tell us.
Don't tell NY1.

Tell Hillary!

Less than 24 hours ago she announced she has 18 million voters and they are hers and she will listen to them. Judging from some of these blog comments, it doesn't sound like all 18 million Hillary voters are mindless and will only vote for the candidate she tells them to vote for.

Does she also think she has x-ray vision?

Is this her another ENTITLEMENT ?????

The Clintons have been such DISGRACE!

We need someone NOBLER to be Obama's VP!

Hillary definitelY has DISQUALIFIED herself by being a Clinton!

And we care if the "Clintons go down in history as the ones responsible for Obama losing this Presidency"?

If she runs as an Independent she'd be out to win. That would have nothing to do with Obama other than beating him. And Nader didn't cost Gore the Presidency. I don't care who or how many argue that point. As a Democrat you can say Nader took votes from Gore and probably caused a Democratic loss. As a citizen no one should be looking at anyone's candidacy as "costing" another candidate or the country anything. Other then possibly federal campaign funds.

If you expect the Clintons to be civil, be civil to them.

I will write a book about the terminology used by the media and the blogs to adress Hillary Clinton and her family during this race.

An adjective, in grammar, is a word whose main syntactic role is to modify a noun or pronoun (called the adjective's head), giving more information about to what the noun or pronoun refers.

Analyse your adjectives and you will see yourself.

Obama supporters.....you are drunk on your own egos and pride. Do not forget, Obama's win means nothing if he can't get elected. It's time to put down your guns, put aside your egos, and look at the clear facts. The democratic base (American voters, delegates, and super delegates) are split right down the middle at this time. YES, Obama pulled off the win; however, .1% is nothing to brag about, and when you consider they are separated by only 240 delegates out of 4,100, any "educated" & "rational" person should be able see that the party is split evenly. Time to put your own egos aside and realize what is best for our party. There's a reason they are calling Obama/Clinton the "dream team." They BOTH have inspired 20 million new voters, they both have been outstanding voices for our party, and they BOTH will be amazing leaders for our party. Do not be so drunk on your win or your candidate that you forget what the goal is: to unite the party, to take back the white house, and to put leaders in office that will best represent and lead our country. Obama = amazing change & progression, Clinton = awesome experience & fortitude, together they are the DREAM TEAM. Suck it up Obama fans. We've had to...let’s get together and play nicely now!

amazing this guy was following hillary around like a little puppy dog
with its tounge draging on the ground. on the campain trail. why is he
changing his tone now?

By the way, did any of you McCain supporters actually watch his speech last night? It was hysterically bad and boring! He's a virtual human sleeping pill! "My Friends” He’s a mealy mouthed, tiny little man with no charisma whatsoever. I can't wait to see him on stage dwarfed by Senator Obama. While the substance of what is said is most important, you've got to hold the audience's attention and he's going to get his clock cleaned! I almost felt sorry for him last night. He appears as a feeble old man who can't even read a teleprompter! I smell a landslide!

Can everyone please stop the freakin hate against hillary? Im an ardent Obama supporter but people that say "QUEEN HILLARY IS FINALLY DOWN," and "NO HILLARY, NO HILLARY, WE HATE HILLARY" are JUST as bad as the crazy hillary supporters that cheer on the old, pro-war, anti-abortion, double talking McCain because they just feel like whining,

Hillary has run a VERY good campaign and atleast deserves respect. Yes, she lost, but she CAME CLOSE.

I ask all Obama supporters to give Hillary the respect she deserves-which is a lot. It has been a shakey road but hillary is a very smart person and will eventually do what is right

I think it is disrespectful and disingenuous for any supporter of Clinton – Lanny Davis in particular – to force the PRESIDENTIAL nominee to choose his running mate. How dare Davis to put a petition out there to force Obama to pick Hillary. Won't these supporters ever stop being jealous, egotisitc, delusional, and divisive? To pick the VP is, get this Davis and other venomous supporters of Clinton, it is the RIGHT OF OBAMA TO PICK WHO HE WANTS!

Get over it Clintonites – the better candidate and campaign won.

Hillary will be forever known not as a loyal democrat, not as a loyal team player, not as the best first female presidential nominee for the democratic party, she will be forever known as the MANIPULATOR.

I am so disappointed in her for so many reasons and she keeps sticking her foot in her mouth ... who knew she would so blatantly manipulate the democratic party as she has and continues to do so? All of her former peers in gov't will NEVER forget how bad a sport she has been because remember as she has infused throughout her campaign, it's all about hillary, all clinton all the time. Either she created the bad advice herself or she took bad advice on more than one occasion and ran with it to the position of national loss.

If her husband told her not to bow out Tuesday night (the worst advice to take at the most crucial time because of the spotlight), another bad mistake on top of numerous errors in her campaign's journey.

thanks Nunya,
I try not to read and respond to blogs anymore either, but couldn't resist. I while ago was really surprised to read an article about just that – that there are professional bloggers out there, who are paid to write things on these blogs and stir things up, or to promote rumors or most recently to stir the division in the Democratic party... that is their job. So I'm with you, take everything you read on these blogs with a grain of salt.

Trueblue, it's over, your horse lost. She won't go Indy, and before you vote McCain, you better go over to McCain's website and see if his stance on the issues match up with yours. If you wanna waste your vote, I suggest you vote for Mike Gravel or Ron Paul. In the mean time, go watch some That 70s Show re-runs.

I was astounded by the positive media coverage of Hilary's speech at the AIPAC pro-Israel conference. Obama made some extremely complimentary remarks about Hilary in the opening remarks of his speech. Obama went out of his way to compliment Hilary. He is the presumptive nominee! She made a few obligatory friendly comments about Obama in the middle of her speech – almost as an afterthought. She then went on to dictate the issues that she felt the next president of the US would need to address.

This woman is too centered on her own importance to be trusted as VP.

There remains one sure bet in this country; "get to the
top, and people will relish your fall." So it goes it sports,
entertainment, politics, etc.

Hillary Clinton was hit with everything but the kitchen sink
during this primary. I suggest the media, in general, put
much of the blood in the water, attracking sharks from
every sector of the voting public. Why? Simple. Without
disagreement, and rancor, the ratings plumpet!

Senator Clinton stood tall during those unrelenting
and unjustified attacks. Yes, there were time when
she justly deserved the berbal beating she received,
however, there were MORE TIME when it was completely
unjustified.

From the beginning Mr Obams was the faired haired
boy, i.e., david and golieth. It's easy to root for the
underdog–but it this case, I believe the media took
it much to far.

I like Mr Obama, but one must admit, as far as experience,
he a little light in the sneakers. Yeah, the guys a great
orator–but can he talk our country into better times?

I believe we gonna elect this man. Hey, how much worse
can he do than the Bush administration?

If he wants our votes he better pick her or he can kiss em bye bye.

Are you people voting for whatis best for your country, or Hillary?
I will tell you this, Hillary with all her millions is not thinking about
you or anyone else but Hillary, my God you people act like and sound likes fools, this is your country and you better get it together and stop letting a person color make you cut off your nose to spite your face, because that is all you will be doing, I personally don't think Obama
need your votes anyway, he won the General without it, didn't he?
The woman lied, lied time and time again, self-serving, I< I< I that is all i heard from her for what seem like forever. All Hillary is worried about is that court trial regarding her husband & Peter Paul, that was
extended until after the election, she was so sure that she was going to win and be excluded from testifying, ha, ha, what now all you Hillary\
fool lovers?

Glen, Cary, NC

Rendell was saying that if you are the winner, you do not bargain with those who have lost.

The winner sets the tone, not those who lose.

YOU ARE SO RIGHT NUNYA, BUT THESE MEAN SPIRITED PEOPLE DOSEN'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT THEY DOING.

Glen your schizophrenitc post makes no sense – do you agree with Rendell or not?

Can't stand Obama or his wife,too slick for me,already stomped on a woman in his first race. Go Hillary, Go McCain!!!

Fellow Democrats; "United we stand, divided we fall."

Fighting amongst ourselves at this point won't do a thing, except weaken our chances to initiate real changes come November– which I think we all need.

Venting disappointment is one thing; but checking that little box in November is quite a different matter, when we consider what is at stake for our country and future.

Delusion is running completely rampant. There are very few realistic scenarios for the fringe of the Clinton support. Hilary running as an independent makes you feel good, and puts McCain in. Aging liberals on the SC replaced by McCain Republicans and a commitment to another 100 years in Iraq. Sounds like a winner.

Hilary sits out this election without strongly supporting Obama, McCain wins and Hilary runs in 2012. Under that scenario, why would Obama supporters come out in '12 and support Clinton? This is a pipe dream.

Quid pro quo. Obama's backers include the most loyal group of voters in the history of American politics. Souring the process and not supporting Obama will guarantee that African-American participation in the Democratic party will subside. This effectively splits off a chunk of the most loyal 20% of the party for a generation, and would likely deny a Democratic President for at least the next 3 election cycles.

Your candidate lost. Live with it and rally around what unites us, or destroy the party. It's your choice.

Put yourself in her position, after so many months of hard work it is not that easy to give up. That is the difference between people like us who can just simply write rude comments and people like Clinton and Obama. They are up there doing the real hard work. Give her some time to think and plan

I am actually hoping she wont join Obama as VP and would like to see the millions disappointed in him losing the November elections. It will be more hard for him to win the Nov. elections without her.

There is talk of Hillary running as an Independent. She is broke. How would she finance that? Her ardent supporters don't seem willing to give her anything but moral support. We Obama supporters put our money where our mouths are!

@Pchapin....Do you think it was fair that Hillary was awarded delegates in an election where Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot?

The point i'm trying to make is in this situation, it is just as fair for Barack Obama to have received the uncommitted vote as it was for Hillary to receive delegates based on the election results where Obama's name was not even on the ticket and they were told it wasn't going to count!!! The only true FAIR thing would have been to award them both with NOTHING from Michigan.

Definitely not. What is this nonsense from all the Clinton supporters about putting her on the ticket. Always wanting to steal the limelight from people. This the nations history making week, let the spotlight be on the history maker not some pathetic loser who refuses to accept the actual not inevitable facts. By the way I don't think Obama is considering that either.

That's what friends are for.

what do you people mean "it's not over" until Denver?" It has been over for a while, and if you keep up with your complaints and threats, the Ds will lose in a year that the Rs should have no chance of winning. Turn your irrational venom on McCain, don't let him pander to you while going against you on every substantive issue. "TRueBLue", yeah that is funny -

politics June 4th, 2008 7:02 pm ET

the future looks gloomy now. Hillary would put us back up, but this young and already involved in so much heavy baggage will not do. He is there for himself and his wife. Not for us.
Hillary, please, stay and run whatever way you can.

It's morons like you who make it easy for Obama supporters to ridicule you! In his speech last night Obama repeated that this election was not about him, Hillary or McCain. He said it's about the American people. Meanwhile that graceless cow asked her supporters to go to HER website and tell her what to do – translation, help me pay of my campaign debt. I guess $109 million just doesn't go as far as it use to. What kind of suckers are you people?

Good to know John WA what's good for feminists. Hillary might surprise everyone if she ran as an Independent. She might win! Actually, I don't think she'd win. I think John McCain would. Fine with me. I'm more than happy to give it all up for spite. You Obama fans taught me all about spite.

KEEP UP THE HATING. THATS WHY O.B. WILL LOOSE IN NOV. YOU HATERS RUINED YOUR CANIDATES CHANCES. OBAMA SPEAKS UNITY ,AND YOU YOUNG SUPPORTERS ARE JUST FULL OF HATE.IF HE COULD READ HIS SUPPORTERS HATE AGAINST THE CLINTONS AND HER SUPPORTERS. HE WOULDNT THINK TO MUCH OF HIS YOUNG SUPPORTERS. POLITICS YOU DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO , TO WIN. OBAMA PLAYED REAL DIRTY CHICAGO POLITICS. IF O.B. WANTS HRC FOR VP. ITS NONE OF YOU SUPPORTERS BUSINESS. HE KNOWS THEY WOULD BE UNBEATABLE, AND SHE IS THE BEST CHOICE. OBAMA ADMIRES AND PRAISES HRC. YOU YOUNG SUPPORTERS ARE JUST HATE.KEEP HATING AND IT WILL BE YOUR FAUGHT'S WHY O.B. LOOSES IN NOV. WE ARE GETTING SICK OF YOU IMMATURE HATERS. WE WILL ALL VOTE MCCAIN. OBAMA NEEDS HRC MORE THAN SHE NEEDS HIM. YOU HATERS BETTER THINK HARD AND START GIVING CREDIT AND RESPECT TO HRC. YOU O.B. SUPPORTERS AND CLINTON HATERS RUINED THIS WHOLE RACE ALONG WITH THE MEDIA, DNC, PRESS AND SUPER DELIGATES THAT FIXED THIS RACE BECAUSE OF BIAS AGAINST A WOMAN PRESIDENT. WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND. KEEP HATING ,BECAUSE YOU YOUNG O.B. VOTERS REALLY SHOW YOUR MORTALITY. ATLEAST MCCAIN'S VOTERS AND HRC'S VOTERS DONT HATE.AMERICA GETS WHAT THEY ASK FOR.

I really don't know for sure what Rendell's objective is, but I do agree with him one this issue, neither Hillary or Bill needs to be anywhere around Obama or the White House not because I think they could upstage him, but because I don't trust either of them I feel that they would do their best to destroy him in some way or other and the thought of them lurking around with the desperate desire to be in power again is too scary, if you know what I mean.

Hillary has overstepped ALL bounds period her conduct last night is beyond a "lookover." I feel it is best that she pack up and go somewhere out of sight. The Clintons have ruined their reputations in trying to ruin Obama, this lastes stunt has made them repulsive to say the least! It is said that they has made it impossible for Obama to select her as VP, if that is true I can only thank God for that.

Lou Dobbs should be taken off the air or at least placed where he would best fit in on FOX. He had revived his dead career of the backs and tears of the Mexican cummunity, he is just as repulsive as Hillary they both use and hurt people to get what they want!

oh man.. you will lose the south for sure if you pick Rendel .... he is the epitome of northern backroom politics.... completely repulsive to change, populist, or southern minded dems..... He looks like he should be doing infomercials

I agree... I am a staunch supporter of Hillary's but I don't think she should consider the VP position and frankly I hope Obama doesn't offer it to her.

She needs to stay as far away from him as possible. She has proven she can carry the important states with the electoral college math and if she stays focused she can run in 2012...

As long as her supporters vote McCain so she can run against him in four years. My vote now goes to the second best candidate – McCain.

Hillary has shown that she truly cares about only one thing...Hillary.

Please exit stage left gracefully and don't let the door hit you on the way out. Salvage what little credibility you have left for your future political aspirations.

One issue to consider is that Clinton's supporters helped to draw up the rules that governed this last primary season. The cry for let every vote count only started occurring when Clinton got rid of her initial set of managers (who got her in the loosing position). It was the only way they could possibly get the election.

As Donna Brazile said...changing the rules in the middle or the end is called cheating.

June 4th, 2008 6:53 pm ET

CHICAGO – A prominent fundraiser for Sen. Barack Obama and Gov. Rod Blagojevich was convicted Wednesday of fraud and money laundering after a high-profile federal trial provided an unusually detailed glimpse of the pay-to-play politics that has made Illinois infamous.

"CHANGE" we can believe in. Yeah Right!!!
Obama is just another slick and mirror politician who says one thing and does another.

Go Hillary, if not Hillary go McCain

DID YOU WATCH THE ENTIRE REPORT? OBAMA WAS NOT LINKED TO ANY OF THIS. I KNOW IT'S HARD FOR DELUSIONAL PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND HILLARY BUT IT'S OVER. SHE'S CONCEDING ON FRIDAY!
IDIOT!

Thank you! She got nerves!
They see they can't strong arm Obama!

After watching Hillary last night – I can't wait to see her out of the media!

I agree Nunya. I'm voting for Obama but would not say anything nasty about Hillary. Be aware of the Republicans trying to divide everyone that stands for good things

Everyone is turning on her! Yeah! Common sense and party loyalty prevail. Hillary supporters should take note. McCain will make you cry!
Obama 08

Prior to last night, I though an Obama/Clinton ticket was a no-brainer. Now it seems like a bad idea. Clinton's defiance and lack of grace in defeat signals likely future insubordination and horrible team dynamics. I am right wing and would not vote for Obama due to his oposition of free trade and other left-wing economic errors (not to mention the fact that I am a Canadian;), but he has outsmarted Clinton all the way and would be unwise to link to someone with such poor sportspersonship and clear desire to undermine him. Yesterday an Obama/Cliton tag team versus McCain+anybody seemed like and unfair fight. Now the reverse is true.

Talk about an interesting campaign. Amazing.

If you cannot adhere to a simple concept, such as playing by the rules, then you shouldn't be placed on the ticket. She ran a horrible campaign; and to have the audacity to lobby for the VP spot on the ticket; where is the dignity. It is obvious who she is for. Especially claiming to lead in popular votes when Obama's name wasn't even on the ticket in Michigan. It's to wonder most of Hillary's supporters are not educated.

I was a supporter of Hillary up to last night. I was very disappointed for not conceding to Obama. I was expecting that she would pick the democratic party and this countery over her ambitions. I hope she will get over her disapoitment and focus on the unity of the party. Unfortunately she confirmed what Obama supprters and her critics been telling us (her supprters) that she will do anything to fulfill her ambitions on the expense of anything. She still has an opprtunity to play a leadership role and fix the damage.

Good one JC. I agree Barack should stay away from Hillary and likewise for Hillary. I do think that Hillary missed a huge oppurtunity
last night. She will get her chance to to shine at some point but will have to earn it as far as I am concerned, she left a foul taste in my mouth from last night venture

Why would you want Hilliary Clinton as your running mate? We all know that Hillary wants the number one job. You cannot have two presidents at the same time, and that would be the danger of having Hillary as vice President. She is not the only qualified person in the USA for the vice presidency, so let's choose one of them and get on to solving the problems that this country has today i.e. Medicare, Social Security inflation, having Iraq pay for their own government. Instead of the USA, etc..

If Hillary is chosen as Obama's running mate, I will vote for George W. Bush for third term, Think about That!

Bill Clinton is her biggest negative. Who would babysit him? He is still out of control. Hillary has enough problem without him. Maybe if she were willing to get a divorce it might work.

Another voice of reason

If Hillary ran as an Independent she would lose. So would Obama. Mc Cain would win. This is not what she wants. If her supporters cared about her political future and the Clinton legacy they would get behind the Dem nominee so the Clintons don't go down in history as the ones responsible for Obama losing this Presidency. Help her by encouraging her to end her campaign and graciously allow Obama to choose his VP. If it appears he is forced it will hurt them both. She will look like a hostage holding divisive woman (not good for feminists) and he will look like he is not in charge. He is in charge, if not then it's McCain. Do you want to end the war, help the economy, have health care-or do you think Hillary wants you to give it all up for spite? Please, think . Right now it is easy to be angry and hurt-but don't take it out on the county.

Clinton lost – delegate count, superdelegate count, and yes, she LOST the popular vote – both with and without caucus states – according to the official tally...she is in no position to force herself on the ballot as the VP. What she DOES need to do is concede, which she should have done last night – at least show SOME modecum of decency and dignity.

I understand Clinton supporters are disappointed she lost – and I feel for them. I know I would be disappointed if I were in their shoes. But the facts are the facts and do not change just because you don't like them.

Right now, the Clinton supporters need time to adjust and heal. The Obama supporters need time for their well earned celebration. Then we all need to put our petty squabbles behind us because, in a short time, Democrats need to come together to work to put our nominee in the WH in November!

Rendell is right. Obama is the one who needs to do the bargaining, not Clinton. Winning the Democratic Party nomination is no guarantee of winning the White House. Seriously, you can look it up. He needs her supporters and to get her supporters he needs her.

Why is Hillary so desperate? The eight years she spent in the white house is definately enough for her. She ran a good race but should have thrown in the towel when she knew the maths wasn't on her side. A joint ticket would be disastrous for the democratic party because there can't be two captains on one ship. It's the end of the road for her and as soon as that is acknowledged the better for the Clintons. Adios

Obama / Hillary is a loser. It wouldn't have a prayer of winning in November. Obama needs to pick up a big swing state. Strickland is the only VP prospect that can do that for him.

Kerry and Gore both made the mistake of choosing a VP that could not swing a state and they both paid dearly for it. Obama would be an idiot if he didn't look for a VP that will actually win him a red state that matters.

Ohio is the largest prize out there that he can bank on getting with a VP choice. It should be a no-brainer, all these other prospects sound really nice but they don't change the map for Obama. You have to stick to the map and not take any chances with it. This is a no-brainer.

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All you embittered Clintonites are pathetic! Enough with your day late dollar short threats already! Go on and vote for McCain I dare you! All this "he needs her more than she needs him" is such a joke. Is that so? Then why did your horse lose? Oh right that vast conspiracy? Only left wing this time?? Give me a break, Obama does not need her, please have fun throwing your vote away on McCain, and PRESIDENT OBAMA will see you in 2009

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Welcome to the cut-throat political scene.

Now that Rendell thinks he might be on the "short list," he is hanging Hillary out to dry.

Looks like the delusion is spreading....

Clinton supports are wearing me out with the constant whining.
Its simple if your democrat vote for Obama if you like Clinton and hate Obama then stay home.
If you vote for McCain as a Clinton supporter then I think you truly have no idea what her policies were. You obviously are hurting right now I can empathize, but crying about why you lost or that it was stolen from you is just garbage. She did not manage her campaign well. She did not make good decisions. More than one person thinks she played dirty against a fellow democrat. For the people that read this and agree that she ran completely mismanaged her campaign and threw away the election – think how well she would manage as a president.
Non stop scandal, politics as usual– some people in the united states are tired, we are tired of the bickering and the divisiveness. Which is why when a breath of fresh air comes along that does not carry out the same sorts of tactics that have managed to get us where we are today, we vote for him. I would have voted for him if he was a republican. I voted based on issues, I voted based on the interest of my children and their children. If you dont want to vote for Obama – Don't but don't say he can't win. He can and he will.

The deluded Clinton supporters continue to find any excuse to avoid their grief process. It is insane to consider that Hillary will ever run as an independent. It would be political suicide for her and Bill. Won't happen. What also won't happen is Obama selecting her for VP. Get used to it, Clintonistas - Hillary is going back to the Senate to represent NY State again. Maybe she'll retire or get voted out of office after that. One can only hope.

RB TX, I think it would be more telling if the candidate was sued for campaign finance fraud than if they received money from someone who was a criminal. During her Senate run in New York, Hillary Clinton and many others received money from a drug smuggler. Once that fact was out, most of the politicians donated the money to charities. On the other hand, Hillary is currently being sued for what has been called "The biggest case of campaign finance fraud in history". Look up Paul v. Clinton.

Good point Nunya

Nice try, Nunya. Obama's people are so proud of their nasty mouths, I can't imagine one of them who isn't panting to take credit for being nasty-as-we-wanna-be.

No, what you see is what you'll get – unless we can find a defeat him. I think the RNC is on the case as we speak.

Whatever she does is ok....we will wait for McCaine to eat him for breakfast. I do not think she wants his VP spot, she wants to let it play out and fall. So much for the democrats, yet again!!!

"He is there for himself and his wife."

Utterly amazing that a Clinton supporter could even attempt to make this claim about someone else. I don't know where you live, but its summertime and way too hot to be wearing all that wool on your face.

My shero! I am a strong Hillary supporter, and I understand why she held back last night. She felt that her first loyalty lied with the 18 Million people who voted for her, and not to the Democratic party that back stabbed her throughout this primary. She showed that she will not be pushed around, and that she is still a leader in the party.

Hillary 08!

While I like the idea, I can completely understand if Obama decides to go another way. Having Bill lurking in the shadows may not be worth the advantages Hillary brings to the table.

RB TX

again to you.. why don't you look at Peter Paul v Hillary Clinton. Obama has known Tony Rezko, that true.. but is there any allegations or proof that he was part of anything sinister..

Wake up and good Whitewater if you are not clued up about politics..
While your at it google Monica Lewinsky too..

You make me sick.. I don't know if I will vote for Obama or McCain but I think some of you Hillary supporters are full of it.. you need to get a live.. if you don't want to vote for Obama then fine but why say you will go for McCain.. I think before you do that you should register with the Republicans.. show your true colours.. then again I also have some doubts as to your current status.. maybe you are a republican in disguise..

No Hillary VP, Go Obama.. even if you lose the election because of this.. principals are more important than being blackmailed!

I totally agree but Hillary and Bill reallly do think they are above all others and have the right to bargain with the Presidential nominee. I wonder if it comes from so many years of the two of them bargaining with others and useing their offices as negotiateing tools.

2008election for Hillary as INDEPENDENTT!!

Hillary would not take kindly to you people voting for McCain, FYI.

Obama for president!
Hillary for Secretary of Health and Human Services!!!

I really hope that the hold-out Clinton supporters come around. Hillary has lost the nomination. She has no way to gain it back. When it comes to nominations, you don't get do-overs. She will not perform a magic trick at the Democratic convention. It is completely and totally over for her, as far as the nomination goes.

If you've been thinking of writing Hillary's name in, don't. Write ins never work. No one, except in very small town politics, has ever won on a write in campaign. Hillary won't either.

If you have been threatening to vote McCain is she does not win you probably know it will be 4 more years of Bush policies if he wins. If you like that, please immediately register as a Republican. Now is your chance to prove to us that you aren't a whiner, and that you do what you say you will do. Also, please send him 50 dollars right now. Put your money where your mouth is, or SHUT THE HELL UP.

Rendell- (He said that if Clinton were Obama’s running mate, her husband — former President Bill Clinton — could be a wild card during the general election.
“The Obama campaign would have to make strict rules, you know, about what President Clinton could and could not do during the campaign…” said Rendell. “For example, the Obama campaign would have to control his schedule — where he would go into, what states.”)

Barack does NOt have time to be a glorified babystitter for the former President and his indiscretions...

Get Over the nightmare ticket...
Not everybody thinks it's a good IDEA..... We don't need her dishonesty to win the whitehouse.. Barack has been doing pretty darn good so far without her..

Say...Later Hillary.... Not Now... Not Ever.........

This should be Obama decision. After her speech last night I would say she doesn't diserve to be on the ticket. A lot of people think it's a dream ticket maybe for Hillary not for Obama. Probably she started to make plans to fire all the employees of the travel office and then barge in the oval office to protest as if the decision was his and as if she was the #1. In her speech last time she deliberately sent signals that I consider as threats about her almost 18 millions supporters and finally she send them at her webside to help her decide whether may be to go to Denver. I hope her supporters suggest to go to Denver and make a fool out of herself.

The most abused person on this planet is Mrs. Clinton. You all of you who pretend to be bias reporter are all guilty. If she even burp you are all on her back. You are all Anti Clinton
Cafferty, a fewwomen.like Borger. and other reporters who plant and feed into the public your opinion which are not facts .and play & play over over again what kind of human beings are youYou are all like school bullies who love to crush someone down. G Borger you are a woman there will come a time when you will feel what hurt you have put this woman through and especially the high and mighty Cafferty who acts so high and mighty.you could be another IMUS or a Russ LIM
There was a discussion that she played her gender when in fact when she said Wesley prepared me from this kind of challenge in life all of you jump on her.. Well I am just trying to be fair but you are all Clinton Haters

RB TX quotes the news of "CHICAGO – A prominent fundraiser for Sen. Barack Obama and Gov. Rod Blagojevich was convicted Wednesday of fraud and money laundering after a high-profile federal trial provided an unusually detailed glimpse of the pay-to-play politics that has made Illinois infamous."

He left the part out about Obama donating all the contribution money from that fundraiser to charity and didn't use for his campaign. There you go again, taking half the story and spinning it.

Obama needs Hillary as his VP more than she needs him because:

- Obama represents change without substance, and he will lose out to Mccain in the general election,

- Many of Obama's supporters in the primaries are actually republicans who thought obama is a easier target and will dop Obama like a hot potato during the general election, and

- Obama needs Hillary's voters and delegates.

For those who want Hillary to run as an independent – who do you think is going to pay for it? You need funding for that and I doubt any of her fellow democrats are going to give money when it would split their party.

Big mistake...hillary is a loser and wooulf ruin the ticket.

I would NEVER vote for a ticket that had any Clinton on it .

The Democratic race went south after Obama had a 11-0 run. The media and Super Delegates refused to end the race after Wisconnsin when the race was clearly over.

THE KITCHEN SINK STRATEGY.

Thats when the race turned unbelievably negative.

Everyone remember that you have no clue who really is behind the comments you write here. The people with the most to gain from Democratic in-fighting are the Republicans. So you can bet that you see a lot of them posing as Hillary supporters or Obama supporters and posting things to create wrong impressions and start arguments.

Just because you read a nasty comment here, don't believe that supporters on the other side actually are the ones saying it.

This guy is just an opportunist

Yes, Hillary should run as Independent Dmocrat, She has all to do it, and WE-Her supporters are supporting that IDEA!!!
DNC betray HEr complitely and in most ugly way as WE saw it. Now DNC have Obama and Michelle, and all treators, and let them have a fun together. That is begining of a new DNC era.
Hillary run as INDEPENDENT, just like Mr.Barr will as Libertarian. You will officjally congratulated Obama, as You should, time to be Friends again. I sure, that They should keep talking, and discus some strategies. But for Hillary is time to move ON, and do what is the best for US and USA.
DNC lost my respect, and I am done with them.

Hillary would lie, cheat and sell her soul to get the power...of president or veep.......best thing for America is disappear Hillary AND Bill...end of subject.....no liars or manipulators wanted

Ed makes a very good and strong VP for Obama!
He is a smart choice...

re: RB TX

Are you a Republican?

Obama returned the money provided by this scum-bag, the amount of money he returned is much less then the money Hillary returned for similar reasons. Just go join the Republicans, you will find lost of comrades and easily deluded losers in that ever shrinking crowd.

RB TX AND POLITICS:

Is easy to sit there and judge...go back in history and look up the clintons and all those folks that somehow died in some trajic event. How they the clintons make so much money in so little time. Lets look at the reality of all this. The clintons have alot of garbage in their closets, but none of it came up during her campaign.

What does Obama have...a guy that was doing fraud..a pastor that lived through segregation, abuse and many other things and preaches the way he does because of it.

What exactly do you have on him...NOTHING. Definetly not dead bodies hanging around and millions of dollars in the bank.

RB TX: I can't begin to count the number of nefarious business dealings with crooks that the Clinton's have dealth with. Get over it. She lost. Stop acting like a 2 year old. My 2 year old son acts better than that.

Hillary Supporters still talking trash about Obama..IT IS OVER!!! She is not the nominee and has no power over what Obama does. The voters that supported her will not hold this party for ransom for he selfish run at the white house.

Hillary Clinton can not run as an independent. For all of you Clinton supporters get that through you head if she even attempts she will lose all respect as a Senator and would be the biggest upset in history and would become the target to be ousted by Congress to the utmost.She would lose all credibility and I guarantee Bill would not even stand for that cause it would destroy the Clinton name worse than all scandals The Clintons have been involved in,

I have the feeling that the only winner here is John McCain. After 40 years voting for a Democrat I will vote Republican next November.
God bless Hillary and god bless America.

go away hillary. even your staunchest political allies are leaving you. jay-sus!

Barack Obama is not the presumptive KING here!

He has some rights and privileges, but it is the American voters who will ultimately decide whether or not he even becomes president!

I am already tired of all this banter about it is his right to do this and that. He needs to do the people's will.

Not one word from him about women in America, about what plans he has to incorporate women into his presidency. I see Obama surrounded only by men.

It will be a cold day before he selects a female as vice president.

backer of a liar and a fool

I try to tell everyone about Rendall. I knew that once it was over you was going to warm up to the this notion of VP. Now Hillary is trying to take his cake... I always knew the game would change as soon as it was clear it was over.

Know one is going to go over the clift for HRC and no one is going to move out the way and give up there seat for her. Politics is a rough sport. Many people are it in for themselves and not for HRC. Not all but most of the people working for her, other than her supporters, were in it for self gain.

Remember they still have to protect ther positions and advance their agendas and if they to shap up, they are going to have some problems.

Remember boys & girls we haven't made it to the conventon yet! Obama & McCain are the "presumptive nominees"

She should not have to play 2nd fiddle to a 2nd rate Presidential candidate. Its okay Hillary, you can run in 2012!

That's because RENDELL wants the VP spot!

Hillary you have run an awesome campaign just like Sen. Obama-you both have my respect and admiration and I hope to see you speak sometine in the Philly region again!!!

Obama/Clinton 08′!!!!!
Edwards as Poverty Czar
Hagel as Secretary of homeland Security
Gore as Sec. Of energy

These have to be republicans who are urging HRC to keep running. Keep running so that the Dem party is in disarray and unable to get it together in time for November. Bill is and would be a problem. Besides, Ed, may have his eye on the VP slot himself!

Come on now folks

Obama is the second Carter term while McCain is the second Reagan.

Let's get real.

Who wants an Obama/Carter ticket? You think gas is high now? Wait to you see what obyama and carter want to do for you.

Watch your wallet

You're not a Democrat, Hillary... Use your experence to Help John McCain... You will get a great deal more Respect....

Yeah pick either Rendell instead, Evan Bayh...maybe Sam Nunn? Definitely not Clinton.

Enough of the Operation Chaos Rush Limbaugh idiots spamming already.

Governor Rendell is right.
You just don't bargain with the presidential nominee who defeated you, and, let me add, whom you have not conceded to.
But I am not sure I like Rendell.

Obama – Richardson 2008!

RB TX...must we forget Hillary also had a fundraiser charged with wrongdoings, but how soon we forget. Obama can't be responsible for everything any he KNOWS says and does for the rest of his live. I'm sure everyone has know people who have said or done things you don't agree with including your own family...sorry ur point wasn't driven home this time...PLEASE TRY AGAIN

A NEW COUNTRY 'O8

Clinton does not have 18 million votes. She has 17.5 and Obama has 17.4. There is not even close to a million vote difference to come to the 35 million vote total.

Because of that, she really doesn't have much leverage and Rendell should at least be honest and stop trying to spin.

Tru Blu....do what you got to do. Your just upset that Hillary didnt win...Thank God! Sounds like you are going to cry like she did during the campaign. And George...you call yourself a Democrat? You should want Hillary to concede gracefully and maybe Obama would place her on the ticket. Put the shoe on the other foot! And for the rest of you bad mouthing Obama, a vote for McCain is a vote for Bush and we see where this country is heading!

OBAMA 2008!

Thee's only one VP...

...Obama / Winfrey '08

No Way can she go on the ticket as Veep. NO, NEVER, NO CLINTONS IN THE WH. Barack won the nominee Fair & Square. Barack does not need Hillary Clinton. Why would he want to take on all her baggage, Chronic Liar, Untrustworthy, Negative campaigning, just delightful when she could slam Barack & keep the lies about Barack going on & on, she was happy then. So, NO THANKS, who needs help FROM HILLARY CLINTON??? Not in this Lifetime. Congrats to Barack Obama. History was made & NO CLINTONS NEEDED OR WANTED.

Delusioned Hillary supporters: maybe if you had an education and a better job, your thinking would be a lot clearer. Hillary has even paid homage to your ignorance, referring to you as an "uneducated" base. Go figure. We were never hating on Clinton; she just really outdid herself and fell beneath the fold of decency and most Americans have lost all respect for her. Her behavior has been unacceptable and had denigrated the party. She has made us the laughing stock of the country. Why would she continue carrying a banner? Ridiculous. And, if you really cared about her, you'd see that she got some help and started to self-reflect.

See now the Clinton Crazies will come on here and cry foul, cry judas, cry they'll vote McCain. But you have to ask yourself:

Why is it always someone from her camp, her side, and her supporters dissenting from and turning on her opinions, behavior, actions, and words? Can't recall anyone doing that to Obama. You can cry all you want about how unfair life is, but if he wasn't the real deal, you'd see some people jumping from his ship a long time ago.

Think about it.

You of all people, Rendell, should know by this time that when your last name is Clinton, you are the exception to every standard and practice of fairness, decency and honesty. No rules or laws apply to you if you're anything resembling Clintonian. Let's hope Chelsea never gets involved in politics because the rules will never change and will probably get looser.

It is considered as a rigged election by the democratic party if Hillary gets her way and we should not reward losers and bigots. Secondly, a seasoned politician as she is supposed to be, concession speech, unlimited support for the party will do wonders for the working American people instead of emphasizing 18,000,000 votes as her own only (she owned them). We should move on for the next battle. Obama was fighting multi-fronts against Hillary, Bill, McCain, Hannity and alike. Obama had eliminated two at the same time while the last one remain (McCain) which is going to be the easy one unless Hillary, possibly is offered VP by McCain. Good Luck!!

Doesn't matter. I won't be voting for Obama. As a life-long Democrat, this candidate offers the least I've seen in 40 years.

How is it that all of you have fallen for this loser?? Look at his wife, for cripe's sake. She doesn't even LIKE America. THAT'S the candidate we're cheering for? Not me.

Hmmm. Who else is running for President?

Rendall should never be re-elected in Pennsylvania, he has lied and been the most deceitful person during the campaign throughout Pennsylvania.

Americans need to rid politics of people like him, period....

For those of you who want Hillary to run as an Independent that's a VOTE FOR MCCAIN

THOSE OF YOU WHO WILL NOT VOTE FOR SEN. OBAMA, WILL VOTE MCCAIN AND TO KEEP THE WAR GOING AND THE NATIONAL DEBT GROWING!

I suspect that many of the 18 million who voted for Clinton were Rush-the-vote-dittoheads and are wanting to continue to create chaos.

True Democrats, true Independents can not bring themselves to vote for McCain!

Even though I do not like Hillary, is she is chosen as the running mate I will still vote for Sen. Obama.

Rosen, Rangal and now Rendell. Hmmmmm. Hillary, what are you thinking???? Do you remember the promise that you made? You said that you would campaign your heart out for Obama if he was the nominee. He is now the Democratic nominee. Please do what is right and endorse him and campaign your heart out for him. There would have been much more respect for you had you acknowledged that Obama won the nomination last night. What you did last night was very self serving and disrespectful. Please do the right thing, I want to respect you. The world is watching.

Women for Obama, 08

Nonsense like this makes me sick.

This is the democratic process at work, folks. If Florida and Michigan voters feel disenfranchised, they have only their state's political representatives to blame. The DNC didn't "give" anything to anyone.

The "Hillary is a witch", "Barack is a Communist", "If not Hillary, go McCain" talk is rarely justified and yet painfully overused.

Vote for the person whom you believe will lead and improve our great nation, folks. Stop the bickering.

HILLARY CAN'T GO INDEPENDENT !! It is way too late. She will barely get in any state ballots.

Just bow out and be the head of Director of Health

Caroline Kennedy next president after Obama's eight years. A lady with grace and style.

Hillary, do not quit!!! Wait until the nomination is official. It will not be official until the convention in Denver.

With her allusions to RFK, we can all see what Clinton is holding on and hoping for, and that's pretty vicious. If she is on a joint ticket with him, he better hire a food taster... But seriously, Obama comes with his own political baggage, and it would be stupid to heap the catastrophe that is Billary on top of that. Separately they might make it, together they are dead in the water.

If I read all his comments, in every senstence he is saying HILLARY is more charismatic , more capable, and will outshine OBAMA. and will upstage OBAMA even she tried not to.

Democratic part has a problem in Hand. He is clearly telling, whatever be his motive, that OBAMA need a LESS capable person on his ticket. ( and by inference democrats has choosen the weaker candidate! Was he thinking when he was saying that?)

Rendell wants he or someone else to be his VP..by saying Hillary is too good.

Hillary did nothing against Barak Obama personally, She was runnning againt him, so she has to tell she is better then the other person, show where other person is weak.

Same thing Barak did, by painting Hillary as old politics. Becuase of his "new" politics sales pitch, he was forced to be a bit more restained, to sell his "change" mantra.

Truth is , Hillary or Barak, there would be change, is that not true?

Let me know If I got this wrong!

Though my preference was Barack Obama, I've never been a Hillary Clinton hater. Had she been the nominee, I'd have gladly voted for her. HOWEVER, if she sabotages Obama's campaign in the fall and we have to endure another four years with a Republican president more worried about satisfying the right wingers than doing what's right for the country – and who knows how many years with a right-wing Supreme Court, THEN I will be a Hillary Clinton hater (just as I became a Ralph Nader hater after he played a major part in us having to suffer for 8 years under George W. Bush).

With many of her strongest supporters saying the contest is over, I have to wonder what damage she's doing to her political future by continuing on at this point. We might well be witnessing a self-destruction here.

Pchapin, allowing Michigan and Florida to get even 1/2 votes was a gift to Senator Clinton. According to the rules in place at the time of those primaries, NO delegates should have been awarded to anyone. All candidates agreed that Michigan wouldn't count and that they'd withdraw their names. All of them kept their promise EXCEPT Hillary Clinton. I cannot see how any logical, fair person could think that awarding delegates to Senator Clinton, but none to Senator Obama given the circumstances is even remotely fair.

When she wins the nomination in Denver I don't think she should pick him as VP. There are alot more competant African Americans than Obama. He doesn't even know who liberated Auschwitz and thinks there is 57 states. Please!

I think the Clinton will be like a wieght pulling Obama down. The republicans will dig up all them skeletons they have. From the white water to NAFTA. I am from Michigan and I don't see my state going for those Clintons by what they done to. So in election that counts poeple will remember that Michigan use to have jobs with no end in sight.I guess she could have us all work for Walmart. So I say Obama stand stronge against the Clintons backdoor stronge arm tactics to get back in the White House at all cost.........

Hillary is done. I had hoped she would be gracious in her speech last night but she blew it. We have watch a great woman evolve into a sad self-absorbed soul. What I don't understand how anyone who voted for Hillary can go out say they will vote for McCain. With everything that Hillary Clinton stands for, you actually bring yourself to vote for McCain. How could her supporters identify with John McCain. Time to get over it, and unity. Otherwise, you get what you deserve by voting for McCain. I will say once again...(what I've said of GW Bush) I didn't vote for him...so if you love this country get behind the democratic nominee and let's get on with business making of a change we all deserve. Be mad for now, but get out there and vote Democrat.

Hillary supporters do not betray your candidate, stab her in the back and go against her saying that we must do everything to make sure republicans lose. This is our time, This is America's time to shine and, whether you call those advocacies of our candidate, speeches of hope and progress, or shams of false change you are a democrat and you agree with Hillary's issues and Obamas. As Democrats we as a nation united must rise up and transcend the negativity that has terribly affected the race for the highest position in the world and we must join, hand in hand to cast our votes TOGETHER for that candidate which best represents us. Thank you and god bless you

OBAMA/HILLARY 08/12

The hearts of Hillary supporters are crushed and our minds are confused by the thoughtless actions of the DNC and the super delegates. Surely, Hillary has learned a lot about the people that stabbed her in the back. Bill Richardson is a glaring example of a lost human being that does not care about the country. He cares only about his own self-serving agenda.

Florida and Missouri will never be settled in my mind and the DNC should be ashamed of their brainless actions! Obama knew he would be done if a revote had taken place! I and many other Hillary supporters are very angry about how she was treated in this campaign.

If I were she, I would run as an independent!

"Woman inspires us to great things, and prevents us from achieving them."

Listen-enough of the right wingers on this blog with their "Hillary or McCain" prentending to be Dems. Dems will unify behind Obama. Hillary will not run as an independent. Enough already.

Picking Hillary Clinton to be VP, especially after the TRAVESTY that was her speech last night, would be far and away the biggest mistake that Obama will make in this whole process.

How could Hillary actually look into the American peoples eyes and say that her attempts at destroying Obama was just political posturing... actually that would be right up her alley.

And for all those "democrats" that are claiming they are leaving the party because their candidate lost, first, your picture should be placed next the term "sore loser" and second, in case you haven't noticed this primary season, there are 4 people lined up to replace everyone of you.

Our time is now.... President Obama.

Maybe Eddie is wrangling for the job himself. He hasn't been doing too well as the Gov of PA.

I hope Hillary's supporters will be able to put the good of their country over themselves. You know the differences between McCain and Obama are so substantial that, if you really supported Hillary's platform, you could never vote for McCain.

I'm sorry so many of you feel that the Michigan and Florida decisions were unfair, but please remember that those two elections weren't supposed to count. There was never going to be a 'fair' solution to that problem.

I'm definitely voting for Barack Obama. I'm truly sick of the policies of George W. Bush and his cronies. We need to restore honor to the office of the President.

People around the USA - CALM DOWN! SUPPORT OUR TROOPS AND DO NOT VOTE FOR McCAIN. I DID 2 TOURS IN IRAQ AND IT IS NOT WORKING! THEY HATE US AND I THANK GOD I DIDNT DIE. IF IT WAS UP TO McCAIN AND BUSH I WOULD NOT NOW GET A COLLEGE EDUCATION TO MAKE SOMETHING OF MYSELF AFTER I DEFENDED THIS COUNTRY FOR ALL OF US!!! PLEASE VOTE DEMOCRATIC !! THIS WILL BE THE MESSAGE HILLARY GIVES TOO, I GAURANTEE IT, SHE LOVES THIS COUNTRY TOO MUCH AND SO SHOULD ALL OF YOU. THANKS FOR READING!!

Looks like Gov. Rendell wants to be VICE PRESIDENT...Otherwise, why would he care if Obama talks to Senator Clinton, or vice versa? Methinks the man doth protest too much. (Pardon my Shakespeare, I couldn't help myself, it was so appropriate.)

I still don't understand why some people continue to make an issue of Obama being awarded the uncommitted pledged delegates in Michigan. If she hadn't lost, I doubt this would even be an issue. All of the major Democratic candidates agreed not to campaign in Michigan after being told that the results would be nullified due to the earlier-than-allowed primary. Hillary was the only major candidate whose name appeared on the ballots. You're correct in your belief that we don't know what percentage of those "uncommitted" ballots would have went to Obama, just as we don't know how much of the roughly 59% of the pro-Hillary ballots might have went to Obama, Edwards, Richardson or Biden had they not removed their names. Honestly, the fairest solution would have been to stick by the initial decision not to seat those delegates but the Democrats had to appease the Florida and Michigan camps. Face it, Barack won fair and square. If you truly believe that the Democratic Party annointed him as their candidate from day one, I encourage you to view archived articles and magazines from last year. This was Hillary's primary to lose and she lost it. She was the presumptive nominee and she knew it. Her behavior and approach reflected that and may have been her undoing.

Sounds like he is telling Hillary stay away from my job. Love ya, but I am trying to catch a ride on the Obama train.

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With due respects to Senator Obama for running a good campaign, despite needing four times the money and the title of "media darling" to win.

His supporters need to realize a few things... They have been rude and disrespectful to Senator Clinton therefore, rude to her supporters... What they are failing to realize is that HE NEEDS HER, SHE DOES NOT NEED HIM and we will NOT support him, which means, he will in fact not have enough votes to win in November...

I would start being a bit respectful if I were you...

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This simply rattles my core that such a healthy form of political participation is misconstrued for greed and in-ordinate ambition. This are the moments that we should appreciate the course of American democracy.
What Obama decides to do with the Clinton debacle is between him and his advisors to decide.. It is rude to attempt some sort of manuevre to speed up his decision, am sure that they will arrive at a reasonable conclusion soon.

Watch your back Ed. You have pissed off a Clinton.

Do not listen to the Republican bloggers who have nothing better to do than to sway Hillary votes to McCain.

To the matter at hand, I truly do not think that Hillary joining Obama's ticket is a good idea. She was way too negative during the campaign and she has become too abrasive. She ran a helluva' campaign and made history, don't get me wrong... However, instead of bowing out last night with the nomination virtually secured for Obama, she chose to "think about it." What is there to think about? It is true that she could take the battle to the convention, but that would merely highlight the fact that she is a sore loser and feels some entitlement to the job. It's like Hillary feels that the presidency is something that a person deserves, not earns!!!

The people have spoken and its time for all Democrats to coalesce around Barack Obama. The choice is clear, if you want to continue the direction of our country for the past 8 years, vote McCain. I just do not buy these people who say Hillary or I'm voting for McCain. Their views on the issues are the polar opposites from each other!!! Seems like GOP disinformation tactics to me...

YES WE CAN, Obama 2008 & 2012

Hillary/Bill as Obama's forced VP package would indeed be a death-blow to the Dem party.
The USA has had enough of the Clinton's. They are simply NOT trustworthy, especially after seeing their true colors throughout Hillary's disasterous campaign.
Let's MOVE ON, we can do better.

the future looks gloomy now. Hillary would put us back up, but this young and already involved in so much heavy baggage will not do. He is there for himself and his wife. Not for us.
Hillary, please, stay and run whatever way you can.

he cant win without her and everyone knows it. she would be a smart choice. yes he will have to deal with her strengths and bill. but better to be the president than the guy who lost his run for the presidency...

RB TX ....... these Republican smear tactics .. don't work anymore ..

Democrats 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Attn all Democrats!!

THIS IS TURNING INTO A CIRCUS....WE ARE LOOSING FOCUS OF BEATING MCBUSH. HILLIARY SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED FOR THE VP SEAT. I THOUGH EXTORTION WAS AGAINST THE LAW, BECAUSE THAT IS THE FEELING THAT I AM GETTING FROM THE CLINTON CAMP. PICK ME OR ELSE? WHAT EVER THE CASE. LET THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA PICK HIS OWN VP. THE VOTERS WILL EITHER BACK US OR THEY WILL BE KICKING THEMSELVES FOR CHOOSING MCBUSH.

OBAMA08/16

Anyone who would vote McCain is NOT A MODERATE DEMOCRAT.

Well said !!! She has no leverage to bargin with. Increasingly, she seems seriously out of touch with reality. There are so many other deserving public servants that are accomplished that have standing with voters of various important states, that would enhance the ticket rather than drag it down to seriously consider Mrs Clinton as VP.

I AM SICK OF THESE PEOPLE SAYING THAT THEY WILL VOTE FOR MCLAME!!! Are you a democrat or not?

I was highly disappointed and disgusted with Hillary's speech last night. Who does she think she is? She made it very apparent that she has no regard or concern for her country...only herself! That was an "ITS ALL ABOUT ME" speech and I think she made a huge mistake in doing so. There is no way that Senator Obama will bring her on to the ticket....He is certainly smarter than that. I know he will do what is right for his campaign and what is best for the country.....and as far as most can see, she is NOT it!

OBAMA/WEBB '08
OBAMA/SEBELIUS '08

Forcing Obama to Put Hiliary Clinton on the VP ticket is like making the losers of the NBA finals share there trophey with the Champions!!!!!! In every race there is a WINNER and a LOSER as if Mr.Obama owes her something, she didnt help him beat her. He owes her nothing! Maybe Rev. Phlieger was right in his statement about her. She seem bratty and self observed. As if it a birth right to win. You hate to play the race card but if Obama was in her situation he would already be counted out.

Eric Burton

Sorry about mylast rant (if posted)
To answer this tickler I have to agree by putting Ms. Clinton on the ticket Mr. Obama also adds President Clinton. Ms. Clinton showed that he can be a loose cannon when he was supporting her and Mr. Obama will have enough to do trying to keep his supporters and the DNC from turning into the RNC with attack ads that focus on personality vice the issues. Watching out for whatever foolishness will come out of President Clinton's mouth, making sure Ms. clinton is not trying to undermine his campaign, trying to keep the DNC and his supporters from bringing this campaign down into the gutter AND oh yeah actually campaigning and answering all the RNC trash that will get thrown his way would be a bit much to ask of anyone, and while I am sure he COULD do it I do not think he NEEDS to do it.

There is one thing I need to get straight, the woman wins in all the big key states, she win in the popular vote in record numbers, she has the experience and the inteligence, and yet, she's not suitable for a joint ticket? I just think that a joint ticket in these circumstances is ideal, they complete each other in so many aspects...

please please drop out Hillary and stop lying to us about being supportive if you lose. NEWS FLASH!!!!! YOU LOST LAST NIGHT! this is exactly why we do not need someone like you as a VP, sore loser!

I feel sorry for Hillary, she thought she had this one before it began.
I was a Hillary supporter until this started and I was able to see how old
Washington she is. I am so tired of people making it black and white (MEDIA) and what we all need to do is unite and get this Country turned around to be the great Nation we are truly intended to be. May God continue to bless America and show people what life is all about. LOVE!
Hillary cannot change and she will try her best to stop Obama from being the next President. I

Many Clinton supporters are saying they'll vote for McCain. Get a soul. If that doesn't throw integrity right out the window, just shoot me now.

Look, Obama needs an old white guy. Sorry to sound blunt; bringing sex and race into it, but it wasn't me that did so in the first place. We've learned that, however far the country has come (and congrats are in order) there's still a bunch of racists and sexists. Just a fact.

Second call for the old white guy: he must be an ex-military man. Who better to stuff a rag in McCain's pie hole than another military "hero"?
An old, white military man is the exact counter balance to Obama. Hillary is asking too much already, plus, she has the highest negatives of any political figure around. The Dems will lose a lot of Independents that way.

Wesley Clark. Obama/Clark Ticket = Victory

Why is anyone surpised? This has and will be all about one thing.... Hillary. She's too busy jockying for position to get what she wants to see the big picture and do what's right for the party. She can't let go of the spotlight and wants everyone to keep looking and talking about her. She's a self centered, egotistical bi-otch. Why all these women are so blindly following her is beyond me.

And by the way, Obama is the presumtive democratic candidate. Why? Because he didn't win yet. The delegates didn't vote yet, and are free to change their mind. This all does not sound democratic to me, and it seems the democratic party is using republican tactics. Look at florida and Michigan, not counting all votes?? Hello? Where do we live? It seems to me that they rigged the primaries. This will come back and haunt the democratic party in the general election. The republicans will have a field day with this. And why is Clinton bashing so popular? Did we all turn into bullies? Are we so brainless that we forgot all the good things Clinton did for the USA? And then again, Hillary is not Clinton. I think that Clinton did make some enemies during his time, showing that he is not politics as ussual. And those enemies will do everything to stop Hillary, its only sad to see that the rest of America is following them.
In addition, now the media is focussing on this watershed moment, that we have a first african american presidential candidate. Well that is great (don't get me wrong), however Hillary would have been the first woman candidate, somehow that seems less important. It seems America is still more sexist than racesist. Good save America.

I think Rendell should be the VP, or Chuck Hagel
Obama/Rendell 08

waht is he after ???

I just want her staff to be paid, and utnil i see it, and hear it from her mouth and see that her website which by the way is asking for money and wanting the 18 million votes heard.............
until that is gone, i dont think she means what she says..

Obama Sebelius )8

anyone but clinton

I am sick of everyone talking about what Hillary Clinton wants. She lost the nomination. We should be asking what, if anything, does Senator Obama want FOR Hillary Clinton. It's been implied that Hillary wants the VP spot. Does Hillary think that not conceding, not congratulating him, barely even referring to him in her speech last night and in her speech to the AIPAC today is making a case for her? Hillary's defiance appears to me, my friends, fellow alumni and my family as ungracious, unkind and bitter. These are not qualities that I would look for in a VP and it is my greatest hope that Senator Obama does NOT add her to the tickect!

I think the "Bill Factor" had a lot to do with her loss. Rendell makes some valid points.

On a side note, you can already see how divisive McCain is getting with his pandering for Hillary voters. Does he really think they will forgive him for using the C-word with his own wife? Talk about out of touch.

After the poor campaign her managers ran, she does not deserve consideration-she chose them. And there are a lot of people who do not understand what primaries are: the primaries are a 'members only' process in which the concept of vote as it would be defined in a general election does not apply. Her campaign team continues to fail to understand this even after being beaten. That failure is going to cost her a chance at the VP slot. And continued misunderstanding will probably make them lose a chance to impact the party's plank position at the convention.

Her managers played a game of chess on a board designed for the game of Go.

DNC has Rules for what order states vote; Hopefully those 2 states that decided on their own to MOVE up ahead of the other states will learn to take their turn. Hillary backed them because that is HER style... badly done. Now she has to "take time" to think what her next move will be since Sen. Obama is now the Democratic Nominee.. Wow... I AM GLAD SHE IS NOT ANSWERING THE PHONE AT 3AM..she would have to take days to think about what she will do.

There's millions of us who don't WANT Hillary to join Obama because she is better than that! Rendel needs to cool his jets because one, he won't win without Hillary and two, even with Hillary a lot of her supporters will be voting Mccain. Believe it or not, Americans actually CARE about there country and I believe that we will not turn our beloved future over to a racist.

Such hateful Nobama supporters who are delusional about the fact that it isn't just Nobama supporters voting in November. Of course you've been delusional all along it seems but come November when Nobama doesn't win without Hillary on the ticket who will you blame? Hillary? Hillary supporters? Now you're saying you don't need HER and US. Remember that when he loses. You chose the weaker candidate like Dukakis. You have no one to blame but yourselves. And especially since you're so mean spirited and think nothing can stop the inexperienced guy who gives good speeches and no ideas from losing I look forward to his loss. And all the Bill Clinton bashing is comical. We had economic prosperity during his two terms. I guess you don't think that's something to be comended for. Oh.. I so can't wait till Nobama loses. This will be sweeter than the koolaid you've all drank to delusion.

Obama/Hillary, we want to win first and foremost

It's time to put the ole girl out to pasture in a Hillary custom tailored straight jacket.

Pchapin, following party requests Obama removed his name from the ballot, but Clinton did not. So obviously nobody voted for him, and many who might have voted for him just didn't vote rather than vote "uncommitted." How can anyone say it's fair to award Clinton delegates from Michigan based on her percentage of the vote when she was the only one running, and not also award delegates to Obama under those circumstances? A do-over would have been a fair thing, but after millions of dollars spent on it would the result have been any different? Jeez!

No wonder, why Republicans are looking forward to run against Clintons....I am glad it is over. However, i don't see how She will hold her 18 million voters not to vote for OBAMA., thats totally utter nonsense. Another thing i don't think that she will be good running mate, she gave false statement that she won porpular vote, while Obama was the one that won Porpular votes by 13,000 votes including Michigan and Florida.

Pchapin you ask was it fair that the DNC awarded obama the uncommitted delegates. I will ask you this in response, is it fair they awarded ANY delegates from Fl or MI? can ANYONE say that the elections in either of those two states was fair? No one can, the twisting of facts about FL (both names were on the ballot therefore it is fair) is not an acceptable argument. The fact is, as I often see stated on these post, the no one knew Mr. obama in FL at the time of the vote, the facts show, until the end of the race, that everytime he campaigned in a state his numbers went up and her numbers went down. So explain to me how having a candidate with name recognition working against an unknown candidate is a fair election? If oyu had to choose between Bill clinton and Fred Snort who would YOU pick and why?

I hate this continued arguement. I agree the final decision about FL and MI was WRONG but the ONLY FAIR way would have been poolitical suicide for the party and that would have been to enforce the rules as written.

Fianl comment on the FL/MI recount to compare it to the 2000 VOTE shows a GROSS misunderstanding of the laws of the US and the difference between an ELECTION (as in 2000) and a selection (as in who will represent the DNC). THERE is NO RIGHT to vote in a selection, implied or otherwise, it is a PRIVLEDGE GRANTED BY THE PARTY! They can remove that PRIVLEDGE at any time for any reason. SOrry but that is REALITY!

No bargaining needed, because there is the Democratic National Convention who decides the nominee and the V.P. spot, if necessary.

I'm not certain what she needs to think about. She knew for quite some time that this moment was coming and should have had something prepared to concede graciously and come out still a winner by being a decent, honest, fair playing person. Instead she looks like a sore loser who is trying desperately to find any way to stay in this that she can.

Gov. Rendell seems to understand the situation exactly, and I admire him for stating it despite being her most loyal supporter. That takes courage and honor and I respect him a lot for that.

Finally an important Clinton supporter that makes sense!

Obama in 08!

As we have all known: Hillary clinton does not care about the nation, nor about her own party. She cares only about herslf, and now she is trying to blackmail the nominee into selecting her as his VP candidate. Gee, what a surprise!
Let's do ourselves a favor, and get rid of the Clintons once and for all. What a relief that would be.

When were you yeseterday?? This chance was never real, even long before Clintons called on Obama to be her VP.

CHICAGO – A prominent fundraiser for Sen. Barack Obama and Gov. Rod Blagojevich was convicted Wednesday of fraud and money laundering after a high-profile federal trial provided an unusually detailed glimpse of the pay-to-play politics that has made Illinois infamous.

"CHANGE" we can believe in. Yeah Right!!!
Obama is just another slick and mirror politician who says one thing and does another.

Go Hillary, if not Hillary go McCain

I still think that Obama & Clinton would make great running mates! We just have to lock Bill up and hide the key for about 8 years!!!!

I love the Obamas and the Clintons!

BARACK & HILLARY 2008!!!

We Love and Need you Both!!!!

Hillary should not ever make the statement "I quite" or "I concede". A lot changes in politics from day to day. And no one really knows WHAT's in Obama's closet. I don't like what I see so far.

It's not over until Denver. Keep that in mind you mean-spirited Obama supporters.

Pchapin – "Was it fair the the DNC awarded Obama the uncommited delagates?"

I'd ask if it's fair or even very democratic to give ANY delegates to a candidate who basically ran unopposed in MI, after everyone else agreed to withdraw.

This isn't the 2000 general election, it's an internal party nominating process. Nobody has been disenfranchised.

I don't think Clinton should be forced on the ticket, I beleive she can do good to help the party without becoming the VP, just so you understand the VP dont make any decisions at all and this is not Hillary style. She can be part of the administration in charge of reforming health care. That way Bill will be at home doing his on thing until Hillary comes home from work, just like now she is the New York Senator and she goes home to Bill, trying to get them back in the White House with Bills temper will cause big problems, Michelle Obama is not having this nonsense.....

Rezko was found guilty on 16 counts. Hillary Clinton can wait until Obama is finally cleared of his dealings with this guy.

WELL I'M WATCHING CNN WHILE TYPING...HILLARY WILL QUIT THE RACE ON FRIDAY....BREAKING NEWS!!!

You don't like the fact the DNC gave Obama delegates from Michigan who voted uncommitted, so what would you have done? Given him no delegates? Do you really think that would represent the will of the people? Of course not....that election wasn't supposed to count anyway (and HRC and her supporters, especially Harold Ickes), conceded that fact when she didn't need the delegates – Hillary's lucky Michigan counted at all....

Bottom line is, she'll end up losing by so many delegates that it wouldn't even matter if Florida and Michigan's delegations were seated entirely...she lost...she lost...she lost. Get over it, already

Stop hateing on Hillary, I think she will come around but I still lost a lot of respect for her last night during her speech in NY.

Most agree, even though a lot of Hillary's supports want this, a joint ticket is a death sentence for the Dem party. Sorry but true!!

HILLARY, GO INDEPENDENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Her ego is larger than Mount Everest. There is no way she could be VP without trying to usurp the presidency. The Clinton era is over.

Even Eddie understands that her time has come–to sit down and take a good bite of reality. Thank you Gov Rendell for speaking the truth, though Hillary may be able to take it. The truth is directed towards free-thinking and this is a true dose of what Hillary needs. When you have close friends who look you in the eye and tell you to sit down, maybe you'd better.

Those clinton folks are such playground bullies. Thank goodness they will not be in the white house again. we really need to move on and back the winner, not the whiner.

Jerri

You freaking babies! Stop whining! Clinton is conceding on Friday.
She recieved more votes than anyone and who cares when she concedes? Obamba still won.

Hopefully Obama doesn't pick Rendell for his VP. They'll lose Pennsylvania by a landslide.

Here again the Obama campaign and the far left of the party are trying to force Clinton to do something... Give it a break, what the hell are you all so afraid of. I'll beginning to feel as if you all have something to hide about Obama and you want to hurry to the finish line that he will limp over.

It is obvious that the Clintons still rule this party by the way you are all acting. Ask Ted Kennedy what he did when he lost to Jimmy Carter, gee not even a hand shake and they were at the conventon. I am so sick of the s***. Do not blame Hillary when we lose in the GE, you hypocrates have only yourselves to blame.

I hope Obama can steps up and does what is right and chooses Hillary as his VP if not you all will get what you deserve.

She SHOULD get the VP slot.

I love CNN, but I believe CNN is being incredibly biased and harsh to Cliton.
She DID NOT have to concede yesterday, and she only said she was making NO DECISIONS – she didn't say she was in it for the long haul. She was ALLOWED to have a moment to address her supporters without it being the end.

GIVE HER A BREAK! She got 18 million votes and didn't get the nomination. She's had a rough week! And she DID give Obama a nice pro-israel nod today, one he NEEDS desperately.
CNN says she should have bowed out gracefully, but how can she when the media ISN'T letting her! Give her the respect she deserves. She earned it, and so did her 18 MILLION SUPPORTERS.

I don't think I speak for myself only when I say I will never cast a vote for Obama. I cannot believe his supporters are still being nasty and smart mouthed toward Hillary. Obama was "put in" by the DNC heavies and the media. It had nothing to do with any skills on his part. All of us Hillary supporters have to swallow the fact that Hillary lost because of the abandonment of her party, and not to mention race. How could any Hillary supporter unit with him when his supporters will not even to this day shut their mouths. I will either write in Hillary's name, or stay home, or might even cast a vote for McCain. You will not hold us hostage with threats of what will happen if we vote for McCain because there is more of a threat if we vote for Obama. He knows nothing and is a shady person who cannot be trusted. How could the DNC shove her aside. I hope they go down the toilet. I will not and do not believe for a moment that Hillary supporters will go his way or rub elbows with him – CNN you cannot manipulate us that way. It is sad when the DNC and media pick the choice for President and not the people. Stop playing your mind games, you won ok. But now WE have the power to stop him in November – GO FOR IT HILLARY SUPPORTERS.

Hillary will bring a lot of baggae with her on a Joint Ticket., I feel that baggage would attarct lot more Republicans than the 'die hard' fans of hers, resulting in a net negative loss for Obama. The Clinaton name alone can bring out Rebulicans from ther closet to vote against the ticket....

Besides, Hillary hardly represent a change from the same 'ol.

So.. Obama ...run fresh, pick someone who can take the country in a new direction..not some one who was in White house for 8 years, who could not control her husband, her campaign nor her finances...

In Politics, there are no friends... and certainly, there are no enemies.

Rendell has done a quick calculation and realized that he can fulfill his VP dreams by ditching Hillary (that's probably the reason he supported her in the first place)...

Trust me, he wants to be VP, and as of now, Hillary is standing in his way!

Obama 2008

Why would anyone want to ask a person such as Hillary Clinton to run as Senator Obama's VP? She has pulled every negative tactic in the book to try to discredit him. I would not trust anyone who has wanted to be the nominee so bad that she has done everything to him. And even after he won after leading continously, she still won't concede. I thing Hillary thinks the nomination should be given to her because she is a white woman.

Forget Rendell and Hillary

Obama Needs Sam Nunn!

HILLARY 2008 !!!

Hillary you must run Independent, or we must vote for McCain. We moderate democrats will never vote for osama and his thug communists.

HILLARY INDEPENDENT PRESIDENT 2008 !!!

There is no way the Obama people are going to have Clinton as VP – we all know that, so Obama should cut the crap. No Clinton as VP = no vote for Obama.

They all care about themselfs. Only reason he don't want Hillary as VP because he wants be the VP. Sad. And Hillary should not bargain, or actually she shouldn't need to bargain. She is very very close second. It is not that Obama won by a landslide. So ignoring Hillary would be ignorning those votes.

a JOINT TICKET ISN'T THAT MUCH OF A BAD IDEA.

Thanks Mr. Rendell. You are close to Hillary. Please ask her to do the right thing.

“There’s no bargaining. You don't bargain with the presidential nominee,” Rendell told NY1. “Even if you're Hillary Clinton and you have 18 million votes, you don't bargain.”

Okay, so is his flip-flopping on this because he's come out of the Clinton echo chamber, or did he really only say it back then to help drive more votes for her in the remaining battles, OR is he just saying this now because HE wants to be the VP???

Not sure we'll ever know, but certainly makes me not want to trust him at all. All of the reasons he's stating now for why she would not be good on the ticket are not NEW things - they were around last month in exactly the same proportion, when he was saying he'd "love" a joint ticket.

Rendell is right...though characterizing it as "Obama would have to be a very big person to put her on the ticket" is a little off the mark. More like, "Obama would be stupid to put Clinton on the ticket, for all the reasons enumerated below". ...and, apparently, Rendell has had a moment to think about a joint ticket since he first aired his thoughts on the subject.

I don't usually agree with Rendell at all, but he is totally correct. Hillary as the VP would be a disaster. Hillary is the problem. Just look at last night. The only thing that Hillary cared about was Hillary! It is all about Hillary. She once again showed that she lacks character and integrity to make the critical decision. She showed last night that this election was about Hillary, not the Democratic Party, not her supporters and certainly not about the country. Hillary is truly pathetic! Absolutely no Hillary on the ticket as veep.

Hilary Clinton played herself with that kitchen sink Republican strategy that failed and left her in 30 million dollar in debt. She looks scorched!

She made a huge mistake last night, and missed her only opportunity to concede gracefully. She chose the incorrect path, a path that can only be interpreted as greedy political ambition. She has purchased herself a one-way ticket out of politics. Oops! Bye-ya Hillary.

I agree with Ed Rendell about Bill. That is the primary reason why I would NOT like a joint ticket ~ "The Bill Factor". Ugh!

Don't do it, Hillary. Don't get mixed up with that mess !!! Go your own way... back to the Senate or an independent run.

Like I've said before, when the nomination is given to someone, she should fight. Was it fair the the DNC awarded Obama the uncommited delagates? This looks to me like a re=play of "Recount", only it's within the Democratic party. Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, & all the othe "power brokers" should be removed from their positions & those that were elected to office should be booted out next election.

Thanks for telling the truth Ed along with Carter! Some men still have their masculinity after being around Hillary.

This was one of her most ardent supporters, even when Hillary had nearly no chance to win. I wonder why she doesn't get it.