June 12, 2008
Posted: June 12th, 2008 12:00 PM ET

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Mark Penn discusses the Clinton campaign's money problems.
Mark Penn discusses the Clinton campaign's money problems.

(CNN) – In an interview out Thursday, Hillary Clinton’s former senior strategist Mark Penn blames the New York senator's loss to Barack Obama not on underestimating her opponent, but on disagreements within the campaign on how to go after him and on squandering their campaign warchest far too early.

“I wanted to question the basic underpinning of his campaign,” Penn told GQ Magazine’s Lisa DePaulo. “One – that he didn’t have the usual experience of somebody running for president, and two – that the positions he took on Iraq - you know, that were revered by the press - didn’t really hold up when you look through his record in the Senate.”

Penn said former President Bill Clinton agreed with him and went after Obama on Iraq which resulted in his infamous “fairy tale” comments but that the rest of the campaign wanted to hold back because they felt Clinton’s refusal to apologize for her Senate vote to authorize the Iraq war made her vulnerable.

WATCH Bill Clinton's 'fairy tale' comments

“The reason that I would have gone after him early was precisely because I didn’t underestimate the power of a fresh new candidate who also had appeal to the African-American vote and the latte voters,” says Penn. “How do you stop something like that, right? You don’t stop something like that by being “warmer” [snorts]—by, you know, giving an interview on a personality show.”

Penn argues that what is being overlooked is how the $100 million the campaign amassed in 2007 had somehow disappeared after the first contest in Iowa - money crucial to building organizations in future states.

“It was always anticipated that if things didn’t go well in Iowa - and Iowa was the toughest place - that there would be $25 million left in the kitty in order to go into the next round of states. Instead, the cupboard was bare,” says Penn.

Penn also agreed with criticisms that the media was sexist and unfairly pushed her to end her campaign.

“The press always falls in love with the new cool intellectual candidate. You know, he is their kind of candidate,” says Penn. “The microscope that they put her under, that they did not put her opponent and opponents under, was just incredible.”

Clinton suspended her campaign last Saturday with tens of millions of dollars in debt, including – the New York Times reports – $5 million owed to Penn.

Filed under: Hillary Clinton


Kate, Atlanta   June 12th, 2008 2:36 pm ET

Hey fred – I'm where Obama's money came from, and a million or so other individuals just like me. There, is that public enough for you? Oh, and I bought both his books too, so I guess I helped buy his house too – just so the record is clear.

Obama is Michael Dukakis revisited   June 12th, 2008 2:36 pm ET

Barack Obama is supported by blacks, the young, and wealthy liberals. Not a overwhelming demographic for a general election. It is the same demographic of McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis, and Kerry.
The Starbucks crowd supports Obama.
The gas station coffee crowd supported Clinton and supports McCain.

Obama is out of touch with middle America. He is an elitist. He is like Kerry in that he does not campaign in states where he does not think he will do good. If you never ask for a vote, guess what, you may not get the vote. And if you do not get the vote do not blame it on racism. Blame it on the candidate!

virginia   June 12th, 2008 2:36 pm ET

It's a bit too late for Mr. Penn to be crying about what he feels were the injustices of the campaign. If I remember correctly his title was "Senior Strategist" and unless I'm wrong, along with the majority of others who have already sounded off on this, that means that he was one of those at the top of the brain trust. Don't make anymore excuses for what happened, and just face the reality that YOU LOST THE CAMPAIGN. Move on, and get a life.

I blame   June 12th, 2008 2:36 pm ET

I blame global warming and big oil for her loss... I mean, most of you clowns blame them for everything else right?

darren   June 12th, 2008 2:36 pm ET

Obame voted to fund the troops while they are in danger, isnt that the right thing to do?

To actually vote for the war is something different, to provide troops with gear and other necessities while they are there is not hypocritical it is what you have to do...So i don't get his argument

what he needs to get is that the people voted, Rev Wright was played all day almost every day by CNN and everyone else. That didn't help Obama.

Plus Bill was the media's darling when he ran, so don't be mad if people like, love whatever Obama. It's not his fault, he was dealt worse blows by the media in my opinion....the stuff Hillary dealt with she brought on herself. Always playing the victim, crying during debates...r u serious...

You people always try to find a scapegoat, she lost fair and square, end of story, u ran a stupid campaign!!! its YOUR FAULT!!!!

Bonnie   June 12th, 2008 2:35 pm ET

Hillary did not lose the election to Obama. It was taken from her by the "delegates" who gave the nomination to Obama. I say get rid of all delegates, super delegates and the electoral college and let the peoples vote "really" count. After this is our government, not the delegates.

An Independent Hillary   June 12th, 2008 2:35 pm ET

Coulda woulda shoulda :-(

Don   June 12th, 2008 2:34 pm ET

did anyone read the article on msnbc.com from Howard Fineman and how he portrays Barack's misjudgement in picking Jim Johnson as his vp vetter knowing that he recd money from lobbyists. Howard Fineman is usually very supportive of Barack and very critical of Clinton together with Olberman on National Barack Channel(NBC). Now if he can write a sound article criticizing bad calls made by Barack and he supports him why can't Barack supporters criticize their messiah. Some people can't take the heat. CNN post my comment.

Loretta from California   June 12th, 2008 2:34 pm ET

Please no more of the blame game. We need to stay focused on the task ahead, which is to rid ourselves of the current Regime and to repair the damage that has been done to our Country.

LaShanda   June 12th, 2008 2:34 pm ET

Mark Penn ruined Hillary's campaign by telling her that she should ignore the caucus states. This man should NEVER work in politics. It's time to move on and focus on winning the White House.

DEMOCRATS 08!

Louis   June 12th, 2008 2:34 pm ET

The fact is that Hillary and her "combo" mismanaged her campaign she began 8 years ago. Mark Penn is a good example of a lack of judgment in selecting subrogates. Then, she didn't administrate wisely the campaign funds by thinking she would secure the nomination by February. Finally, she couldn't control her husband who was talking stupidities everywhere without measuring its consequences. As a Hillary supporter, I have to accept now that under US current circumstances, she is not the right person to be a president neither Vice president.

tidho   June 12th, 2008 2:33 pm ET

so if I have this straight, your point is that its not your fault...thanks Mark, that was value added.

What if?   June 12th, 2008 2:32 pm ET

TO............Raymond DukeThe democrat leadership , the Obama campaign and the media would have been taking to task and not given a free ride to do as they pleased.

I thought Mark Penn was the only one at this late date playing the blame game. It's obvious that you are a Clinton supporter and have been introduced to the blame game of politics.....blame everyone else, but not ME!. What shouldn't have been stated is that Clinton, her camp (including Mark Penn( should have WORKED HARDER for their salaries to WIN. JUST as Obama, his camp did, WINNER........ Wouldn't you know........

GAS IS TO HIGH, there's nothing call a FREE RIDE............Obama 08

GR   June 12th, 2008 2:32 pm ET

You Obama supporters are not speaking for me. By the way, I haven't been polled yet.

Franky   June 12th, 2008 2:32 pm ET

"The Womens Fair Movement for McCain"

(Dialogue)

Women: They treated Hillary wrong! The news media is sexist!

Women 2: We will be heard!

Women 3: We will vote for McCain!

Women 4: It is wrong and unfair!

Women 5: Please Senator McCain, tell us you LOVE us???

Senator MCCain: Only if you promise me not to get paid?

LOL!!!!!!!!!

Patricktm   June 12th, 2008 2:32 pm ET

Even Penn is admitting that her campaign blew it - not its time for all of those whiny sniveling malcontents to get a life and stop this "we weren't treated fair" and "it was stolen form us" bull pucky they continue to spout rather than accept the fact they backed a loser and lost.

Doug   June 12th, 2008 2:31 pm ET

Honest question: is this guy even a Democrat? I know the Clintons have shown the willingness to hire non-Democrats in the past (see Gergen and Dick Morris). Penn obviously doesn't care about the Democrats' chance of winning in November. He's more than willing to rehash Obama's weaknesses just to TRY and make it seem like Hillary's loss wasn't his fault. He's continuing to throw Obama (and others) under the bus to save his political career.

Penn is finished, though. Nobody will ever hire him after the disasterous way Hillary's campaign was run, regardless of how he tries to spin it. He's a political consultant. Are people really going to believe anything he says?

William Safieh   June 12th, 2008 2:31 pm ET

Why should Hillary appologize for voting to go to the war? Senator Mcain was also present in the meeting. How can anyone vote NO with all the evidence presented to the Congress at that time. Did senator Mcain believe the Iraqi UN representativeat that time when the latter told the world we do no thave WMD'S.

Seattle Voter   June 12th, 2008 2:31 pm ET

Fred,
His money probably came from Oprah!

David Gerggen ...   June 12th, 2008 2:31 pm ET

This is about Mark Penn marketing ....

Mark Penn Political Strategy Consultants, Inc.

Let's not stress the party over his attempts to rehabilitate his professional image.

Kenneth M.   June 12th, 2008 2:30 pm ET

FROM HILLARY TO MCCAIN, First you blame obama, then the media, no Penn. Stop Flip Flopping

JL   June 12th, 2008 2:30 pm ET

A.) I really hate being called a 'latte voter', even if I am. Show some respect, dude.

B.) I'm one of the thousands of people who were just fine with Hillary until she turned, on Penn's advice, mean and hateful. If she'd gone "warmer", she might have appealed to us 'latte voters'.

Seattle Voter   June 12th, 2008 2:29 pm ET

Senator Clinton, please do not accept nor put your name on the VP list because whatever happens you will not receive the credit you deserve. Concentrate on being the best senator of New York. Your husband's foundation will remain strong and will help more Americans and foreign citizens around the world.

I just feel sorry for the people who hates you because they have nothing better to do.

Get Real   June 12th, 2008 2:29 pm ET

WARNING Democrats! It's being discovered that much of the Clinton-supporters-moving-to-McCain myth is being stoked by Republicans trying to weaken the Democratic Party. Many of the posts from so-called Clinton supporters saying they will never support Obama are really just Republicans trying to "prime the pump" for weak-principled Democrats. It's a smart strategy that utilizes the power of blogs and bulletin boards to create the illusion of a "movement". When you see these posts, ignore most of them as they are bogus. Or, fight back by posting as a fake conservative that supports Obama (an Obamacon)! The battleground is for weak-principled voters who can be swayed by these illusions!

Naomi   June 12th, 2008 2:29 pm ET

This has to be the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Isn't this the same guy who told Hillary to only focus on the big states and that the California delegate math are winner takes all instead of splitting them among the actual votes.

Money problem were not the reason Hillary lost. She had more money then any of her democartic rivals from the beginning. The strategy thing holds more weight because she didn't have any strategy at all after super tuesday back in February.

Hillary had everything going for her and YES she did underestimate Obama and his campaign, and what the voters really wanted.I think the people who Hillary trusted to run her campaign and those she surrounded herself with made it very difficult for her to win because they really didn't have a clue on what it really takes to win a campaign.

Rachel   June 12th, 2008 2:29 pm ET

You know what angers me about Mark Penn?

I DO NOT EVEN LIKE COFFEE, let alone lattes. I drive a freaking Hyundai Accent, so no, I am not an "elitist". I am educated, reasonably intelligent and tremendously cynical about politics, yet I believe that our government can be better than it is.

And I voted for Barack Obama. People like Mark Penn need to stop both condescending to and underestimating me. There's a lot more people like me out there than they realize.

Really?   June 12th, 2008 2:28 pm ET

I'll give him credit for not resorting to the "sexism" claim, but otherwise . . . give me a break. This guy charged millions for his advice. He was in control of HRC's campaign. Yet we're to believe that his winning advice, and Bill's as well, was just brushed aside? Take some responsibility, Mr. Penn. As the high-paid consultant and pollster, you - as much as anyone - bear direct responsibility for HRC's poor campaign (indeed, she was at her best in the last month, AFTER you left!).

Ernest   June 12th, 2008 2:28 pm ET

Fight with yourself. If Senator Clinton cannot manage her campaign finances, how can she manage the national finance? Senator Obama managed his finances very well and has continued to do so. He encouraged his staff to carpool, ride the train and stay two in a room during outside campaigns.

This is nothing but "A BAD WORKMAN, IN THIS CASE A BAD WORKWOMAN WHO CONTINUES TO QUARREL WITH HER TOOLS"

Obama for 2008

Mike in IL   June 12th, 2008 2:28 pm ET

Mark Penn you finally get to explain what happened... the rest of the democratic party is going to have to live with "what could have been"... everything you talked about is what the republican machine is going to use to win...

Obama's support is limited and if he can not carry the base of the party it is all ready over!!!

I guess as a life long democrat the simple fact that McCain is more like an (I) than a (R) is not too distressing...

Ron, LV   June 12th, 2008 2:28 pm ET

Was there every a losing candidate who did not blame the press for their lose or a winner who credited the press for their won? The press has nothing to do with winning or losing, it is the candidate, the people in the campaign and their message. We need to stop taliking about the Hillary campaign and focus on the general election.

BREAKING NEWS:   June 12th, 2008 2:27 pm ET

Hillary LOST for a combination of reason but the number one reason is she thought she was entitled to the position. The second being her husband she should have long divorce and the others are equally at fault.

Including Chelesa who campaign for her mother but took no questions from reporters.

Good Bye Hillary, Bill, Mark and all others supporters of the Clintons.

LannyDavisIsATool   June 12th, 2008 2:27 pm ET

this is the same mark penn who was meeting with the columbian lobbyists about a trade agreement that clinton supposedly wasn't in support of. get a haircut dude.

Frank   June 12th, 2008 2:27 pm ET

This is all starting to sound like a preplanned game! "Get rid of the more experienced DEM candidate and bring this inexperienced no body to represent the DEMs, and then smooth the way for another Republican to get into the office!". Perhaps this is all politics behind the curtains and we are all just going for the ride!!! What if we really need to deal with Iran and the only one that will do it is McCain? You all think that this guy would have a chance if he went against Hillary Clinton? Why not erect some other DEM candidate that has tons of more experience that Obama even if we don't want another Clinton? Is the DEM party so desparate that they didn't have anyone else? What happened to John Edwards? Why not him? This is all very very suspicious!!!! CNN: please put up my comment.

Mike,ct   June 12th, 2008 2:27 pm ET

You see all

Can't blame OBAMA for there mistake

OBAMA note the blame for Clinton lost

Vote OBAMA

NoMcSame   June 12th, 2008 2:27 pm ET

They are all mouth and no MONEY. Now go vote McSame you turn coats.

Love My USA   June 12th, 2008 2:26 pm ET

Obama wil never get my vote and that of many others! Dems
going Repub..

Mike, Las Vegas, NV   June 12th, 2008 2:26 pm ET

Nevermind that the campaign went negative prior to TX & Ohio – Nevermind that Obama was actually a great candidate and very tough to beat, even for the Clinton Machine – Nevermind that Clinton constantly held McCain in higher regard than she did her fellow Democrat, which turned off many dems – Nevermind the fact she lied about sniper fire – Nevermind the fact she tried to scare old white people by bringing up Farrakhan and Hamas at the Philly debates – Nevermind she continues to lie about the popular vote, both in it's relevance and accuracy.

And you wonder why he has work to do with some constituancies!

Mark Penn is a clown and so is every other drip in this world that actually believes the crap about sexism and all the other weak excuses.

Sometimes you get beat by a better opponent. She worked her butt off and I respect that, but the nominee has been decided in this fair fight and it's time to stop whining and get behind Mr. Obama just like I would have if Mrs. Clinton prevailed.

Get Real folks.

Fiyah_Startah   June 12th, 2008 2:26 pm ET

Please, can someone email Mark Penn and tell him that the American people voted with confidence in hope and beliefe. As people mention the 18 million voters for Clinton, how about the rest of the voters who chosed the other candidate? How about those who votes they felt would have been uncounted for (FL/MI) so I'm really confused about this. Meanwhile, he tells all in hopes of getting his 5 million with interest for the Primary "gone to hell in a hand basket."

Over it – Penny Boy!

ProundToBeADemocrat   June 12th, 2008 2:26 pm ET

shoulda, woulda, coulda does not change any thing. If this idiot want to help hillary he can still do so by waving the $5 million she owes him.

MD   June 12th, 2008 2:25 pm ET

It is precisely because of the collective arrogance of the people in Hillary's campaign staff that she LOST.

Reviewing the early speeches of Clinton shows her smug and conceited approach to the audience.

"I am ready from Day 1" and "I am more experienced to be Commander in Chief" backfired because of the way she said them.

Mark Penn is an idiot sleezeball. But it was Hillary who hired him. That perhaps was the biggest mistake she made, and I am sure she will regret that for the rest of her life.

Also, she should have apologized for authorizing the war, especially because she did that without reading the relevant NIE.

Me   June 12th, 2008 2:25 pm ET

She didn't win because she is arrogant and not very nice. That still counts..

Emma   June 12th, 2008 2:25 pm ET

He should keep his mouth closed. All we need is another talking head trying to make himself look good.

Maybe he will decide to forfeit the money due him from the Clinton Campaign.

Jonathan, Hartford, CT   June 12th, 2008 2:25 pm ET

Penn is a political advisor who is not in touch with current political realities. As an example, we only need to ask why Penn considers himself a politicat advisor/strategist. Who referred this guy to Hillary? Michelle Obama?

Cynthia   June 12th, 2008 2:25 pm ET

In the end, everything lies with the candidate as to the reason why they lost. You can't blame the people working for you – fire time if they are not taking you in the direction that you feel you need to go; you can't bame the media – they were just a tough on Senator Obama as they were on Senator Clinton no matter what you and others think; money – you have to be financially responsible with the money that others entrust you with. The bottom line is the Clinton camp underestimated Senator Obama and thought that they had a slam dunk but did not. By the time the realized that they didn't she was in trouble both financially and really started to attack Senator Obama sometimes fair and other times unfair – and that really turned a lot of people off. Sure, towards the end she started to win but in the end Senator Obama has won more states, the popular vote (caucus included which Senator Clinton did not include in her numbers), more pledged votes and super delegates. I also agree that Penn should eat the loss to help lower her debt. He would have still been working for her if not for the things that he was involved.

Carmen   June 12th, 2008 2:24 pm ET

Mark for a smart man you really contradict yourself. I thought Hillary was smart and could think for herself. Well now we know that was not true. If you were smarter than a 8th Grader you would have slapped Hillary and said this is wrong do it this way and maybe she would have listen. You did not use any force to make sure she was on track and when the other idiot came in he wasn't any better. As for as sexism, no. Hillary ran her campaign and whimp on natinal TV when she wanted her voters to vote for her, so want is so sexism about that, she was playing the media and the American People.

Pepou   June 12th, 2008 2:24 pm ET

Clinton the feminist should not have relied on men like Bill Clinton or Mark Penn, or MacAuliffe. She would have found her voice on her own and done much better.

In one word - B I L L   June 12th, 2008 2:23 pm ET

If former President Clinton would have kept his hands to himself, then Obama may not have had a chance.

Bill Clinton's immoral and ruthless behavior, past and present has completely overshadowed any accomplishments made by his wife, Hillary.

I never want to see Bill anywhere near the White House again!!!

What if?   June 12th, 2008 2:23 pm ET

The following statement by Mark Penn is pathetic, first of all Obama wasn't the reason Hillary didn't win, Mark Penn and her camp was the suppose to be EXPERTS she hired to that made the end results as they were. I see WHY she LOSE, even now he’s not taking blame for Hillary's money woes and her loss. Her supporters are upset with the wrong people, this is who they should be angry at. Hillary supporters you may be next…….

We the Obama supporters continue to hear voters complain that Obama is not God. Every time you log on to these blogs, someone is blaming Obama for everything that happens, mostly the negative things that he has TOTALLY NOTHING to do with.

Until people like Penn start owning up to their short comings, mistakes and oversights, they will always place blame on someone else. This is out of touch with the normal American voters, we all make mistakes, it‘s just some of us are mature enough to admit the truth.

martin   June 12th, 2008 2:23 pm ET

he's a better analyst , than he is a visionary.face it!you failed hillary!now her supporters blame obama.

Omorokunwa, Adams   June 12th, 2008 2:22 pm ET

I thought the Dems are ready to unite and work for Sen. Obama,
but with comments like these ones from Mr. Penn, they could just
be doing the other side some real big favour. Some are born
to be ruled while some are destined to rule, wait, watch out for
Sen. Obama.

nonny   June 12th, 2008 2:22 pm ET

he is now on the frontpage cos he needs his $5 million... silly man

kim hussein taylor portland, oregon   June 12th, 2008 2:22 pm ET

dont let the neocons play you for fools ANY LONGER. you're too good for that!

Matt Callaway in Omaha, NE   June 12th, 2008 2:22 pm ET

fred: June 12th, 2008 1:36 pm ET

"Lets all ask Obama where all his money came from???

Get it in the public for all to see!!!! NOW"
------------------------------–
To fred:

You should use the computer you commented from to visit opensecrets.org Barack Obama's contributions are 100% from individual contributions, Hillary Clinton's contributions are: 89% individual, 1% PAC, 5% candidate self-financing, and 5% other. Just to touch all the bases, John McCain's contributions are: 91% individual contributions, 1% PAC, and 8% other.

As far as Disclosure goes (full disclosure, incomplete, no disclosure):

Obama – 93.9%, 0%, 6.1%
Clinton – 89.9%, 0%, 10.1%
McCain – 87.2%, 0%, 12.8%

Try again...

B. Churchill   June 12th, 2008 2:22 pm ET

Hey Brian Knoxville – I swear to God, my grandson is in preschool, and his group of kids is called the Pouncing Pumas. I visited PUMA PAC's website (at your invitation) and was struck by the similar maturity level in the kids' work and yours. Remember when the Tennessee Titans lost the Super Bowl by one yard (one yard!) on the last play? Is there a website where folks still grouse about being shafted by the NFL, the broadcast network, or the cheerleaders, even though both teams agreed to play by the same rules? Should the Titans have gotten another set of downs, or an overtime, or should the goalposts have been moved because it was so close? Just wondering...

nonny   June 12th, 2008 2:22 pm ET

this mark penn who was campaign manager at the time did not have an idea that the democrats operates on the system of shared allocation regardless of who wins an elction.. .. he admited that he thought clinton was going to get full delegates allocation pending her win in carlifonia ...

James   June 12th, 2008 2:21 pm ET

It is when a guy is too confident of themselves that they opens up for a sucker punch.........with fat cows like Mr Penn. and Mr & Mrs Billary...... the confidents was just too much....... so guys suck it up and move on......

donna   June 12th, 2008 2:20 pm ET

It has been WIDELY reported and verified that Obama's funds came from donations from supporters via the internet..you know, regular people who couldn't afford to write BIG CHECKS but instead gave what they could, when they could....

JR in cincinnati   June 12th, 2008 2:20 pm ET

Once again, another dismissive missive from the Clinton campaign.
...And look where it got you....second place.
"58 old white ladies for OBAMA" was correct in (shouting "IT WAS HILLARY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO PICK COMPETENT PEOPLE...", but not solely for the war vote, but for overall strategy and tone of her campaign. What Mark Penn or one of the other folks should have told her was that Bill should have shut his big yap and let Hillary do her thing. She may have won if that had been the case.

Misty   June 12th, 2008 2:20 pm ET

Clintons have not blamed any one. Obama's his team (Axelrod and Co) were efficient and competent. Obama is a good smart human being and he won the nomination fair and square.

Mark Penn is incompetent– made deals behind everybody: You have to practice before you preach!!

We need to move on and support Obama and th DNC. Hillary would be a great Secretary of State.

Obama 08 and 2012

E. POWELL I MD, E POWELL MD II & ER. POWELL MD   June 12th, 2008 2:19 pm ET

EXCUSES, EXCUSES AND EXCUSES. THIS MAN HAS THE GUTS TO BLAME HRC FOR HIS SHORT-SIGHTNESS. WE ARE NO HRC FAN BUT ONE THING THAT WE CAN'T STAND IS A FINGER-POINTER. HIS JOB ( PAID) WAS TO SEE THE UNSEEN, EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED AND BE PREPARED FOR THE UNPREPARED. HE IS LIKE A KID THAT GOT HIS HANDS CAUGHT IN THE COOKIE JAR. THE PRIMARY SEASON IS OLD NEWS. OUR JOB NOW IS TO GET A DEMOCRAT IN THE WHITE HOUSE. IF IT HAS TO BE OBAMA/CLINTON -- "SO BE IT".

Linda from Prescott   June 12th, 2008 2:19 pm ET

Mr. Penn is such a sleazey character.
That's about the most attention I can give his remarks.

alan7388   June 12th, 2008 2:19 pm ET

Blekh. With a campaign director like that, no wonder Hillary inspired too few people to win. You're known by the company you keep....

Former Republican for Obama   June 12th, 2008 2:19 pm ET

Wow! He's still attacking...it seems he's gone nuts.

Terry   June 12th, 2008 2:19 pm ET

Why listen to anything a "former" strategist says?

MCCAIN 08 HILLARY 12

NOBAMA NEVER.

Alice   June 12th, 2008 2:19 pm ET

what a windbag!

I wonder whether he'll forgive the $5million hillary owes him . . .

susie   June 12th, 2008 2:19 pm ET

The media was very cruel to Hillary.

Susan   June 12th, 2008 2:18 pm ET

Well, one thing I do agree with.....the news media, including CNN did not give Hillary good coverage.. And that hurts a candidate. I saw this before reading about it. Why did Hillary get only negative coverage??

Nina De Ponca   June 12th, 2008 2:18 pm ET

Get over it Penn ... you got $5M ... what more do you want????

Barbara-California   June 12th, 2008 2:18 pm ET

Why all these comments on her campaign? It is the character of the woman that defeated her, not any amount of money, nor how, when, why, where and who that did what. Hillary has a history of bending the truth to fit her purpose at the time. This excuse by Mark Penn is a continued message of why she lost....she lost...simply because the voters could see she was not honest, did not care what she said, did, implied etc. in order to win the nomination.

Barack Obama was very honest and careful about what was said, and was accountable when a mistake or "mispeak" happened from his side of the campaign. Integrity has a way of rising to the surface and those whose intellect fails to understand that principle just don't get it....that is the end of the story.

Let Hillary go......the people do not want her in any office in Washington, let it go!

TJ   June 12th, 2008 2:18 pm ET

Fred, if you want to see where his money came from go to his website... It lists all the donations and from whom

MJG, Colorado   June 12th, 2008 2:17 pm ET

I just cannot believe the explanations he gave. He is the most funniest guy to managae a primary campaign without due understanding of the electoral process.

This what he said on Feb. 5, SUPER TUESDAY -
"If we win California, we will win all the delegates in the state"

That says all!

MD   June 12th, 2008 2:17 pm ET

This slime bucket has crawled out of his hole again?

HE is one of the main reasons for Hillary's demise. Get his fat face off my screen.

Harold Ickes is another reason why Hillary could not only get superdelegates but also lost so many to Obama. Many superdelegates complained about Ickes' strong-arm tactics.

One of my concerns with Hillary was the lack of quality of the people that she surrounded herself with.

Ilona Proud Canadian   June 12th, 2008 2:17 pm ET

WHAT A BUNCH OF BLATANT LIES!

Are these Clinton Campaign Managers still try to place blame for it eventually disintegrating? These people are LIARS of the worse kind.

ARE THEY STILL TRYING TO SAY THAT HILLARY WAS TREATED UNFAIRLY BY THE MEDIA?

ARE THEY FORGETTING THE HOURS, DAYS, WEEKS AND MONTHS THAT THE REVEREND WRIGHT DISGUSTING LITTANY WAS AIRED VIA THE MEDIA, ARE THEY FORGETTING THE DISGUSTING WAY THAT THE PRESS WENT AFTER MICHELLE, TWISTING HER WORDS OUT OF PROPORTION, ARE THEY FORGETTING HOW THE MEDIA AND CLINTON'S CAMPAIGN MANAGERS TWISTED BARACK'S "BITTER" COMMENT, ARE THEY FORGETTING HOW THE MEDIA AND HILLART'S CAMPAIGN WENT AFTER BARACK SAYING THAT HE WAS A RACIST, ARE THEY FORGETTING THE MEDIA AIRING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THAT BARACK WAS A MUSLIM, ARE THEY FORGETTING THE MEDIA AIRING OF THE CEREMONIAL DRESS, DID THEY FORGET THE AIRING OF THE CATHOLIC PRIEST'S SERMON, AGAIN UNFAIRLY BLAMING BARACK FOR THIS PRIEST'S WORDS, ARE THEY FORGETTING HILLARY SAYING THAT McCAIN WOULD BE A BETTER COMMANDER IN CHIEF THAN BARACK? I can go on and on
but I think that I have made my point in spades.

The reason that Hillary's campaign failed is simple, THEY COUNTED THEIR CHICKENS BEFORE THEY WERE HATCHED, AND SHE WAS GIVEN DOWNRIGHT BAD ADVICE! I WOULD NOT HIRE HER CAMPAIGN MANAGERS TO HELP ME BECOME KINDERGARTEN PRESIDENT!

Hillary changed manager after manager, and she was left with disorganized campaign managers, strategists, and tacticians, and the very fact that they believed that she somehow was ENTITLED to the nominee/ presidency was to their downfall, because theY did not allow for contingencies. So please people, please WAKE UP and focus on where the blame lies, smack with Hillary and her campaign big chiefs!

patrick b   June 12th, 2008 2:16 pm ET

Hillary had no choice but to leave, the voters rejected her.

Obama's money came from his supporters, too bad Hillary's supporters couldn't keep up.

Also, it was Hillary's nomination to lose. Her organization did a fine job of it.

Mia   June 12th, 2008 2:16 pm ET

Moving on...

Obama   June 12th, 2008 2:16 pm ET

Well no kidding! How long did it take for you to come up with that??

David Gergen ...   June 12th, 2008 2:15 pm ET

This is about Mark Penn marketing ....

Mark Penn Political Strategy Consultants, Inc.

Let's not stress the Democrats out over his attempts to rehabilitate his professional image.

Kristen- Philadelphia, PA   June 12th, 2008 2:15 pm ET

This man should stop crying about it already. The rest of us are focusing on the general election.

agib   June 12th, 2008 2:15 pm ET

I think he is right , not only they treated Obama with kid's glove , didnt go after him and expose him early , but also gave the media people free hand just to run over Hillary everyday without taking them to task , they should have atleast question him early about his " vote " againist the war and change of WHAT and for WHAT, also counter the media and create public reaction to the clear war against the Clintons..

MAC - Il   June 12th, 2008 2:15 pm ET

I am a Obama supporter and I have to say Hillary were stronger when Mark Penn left. Now explain that away!!

Thanks for all the Fish   June 12th, 2008 2:14 pm ET

Could the notorious Mark Penn who is just bad for the American economy also be to blame? Hello huge outsourcer! What a jerk!

OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT   June 12th, 2008 2:14 pm ET

MR PENN
the blame falls on everyone in the campaign
mostly on hillary for hiring you. she must not have paid you all the millions. i do not blame her if she never does. you don't deserve it. she lost to a washington outsider who sit back took notes on how the country has been run and did some polls to see what people want and then went for it. (HOW SAD A YOUNG BLACK MAN BEAT ALL OF YOU ON YOUR ON GAME) NOT==
the biggest thing that caused her to loose is==ever one went into it like she already had it won, not because she is a woman=but because she is a clinton. any more it don't work. I ADMIRE HER FOR THE TRIP SHE TOOK. SHE IS TOUGHT. TO TOUGHT SHE SHOULD SHOWED HER LADY SIDE MORE. i am a 65 year old woman and at times i felt bad for seeing her act like a mean tought man. it was very unappealing to me. she is smart and i support obama and i don't care to say if it were not for bill, i would love to see her as vp. and in 8 years would support her fully for president. i am speaking for myself only. she is a smart woman but did not use her common sence for her run. had she made her on decisions i feel she would be running for top job. and people like you still whining will make it harder for her in the future. if she can move on with grace,why can;t you people. especially lannie david.
every one have a good day
GOD BLESS THE WHOLE USA AND ESPECIALL OUR TROOPS

CNN PLEASE POST THIS

jon   June 12th, 2008 2:14 pm ET

too true – the media bashed Hillary and adored obama

we will all learn in Nov that we made a big mistake

ANGIE   June 12th, 2008 2:14 pm ET

hillary where are you why are you not working your heart out for the democrat nominee like you promised you would why are you not uniting the party hill like you promised well where are you hill you made promises

Dark Kent, not Clark Kent   June 12th, 2008 2:12 pm ET

CNN ... we're not much interested in Mark Penn or ancillary stories about the Clinton campaign

OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT   June 12th, 2008 2:12 pm ET

Hillary Had No Chance Of Winning With Idiots Like This On Her Team!

Chas in Iowa   June 12th, 2008 2:12 pm ET

The idea of Democracy is that power cannot be corrupted or purchased by the few.
But she tried anyway,.....and Penn is out as well.
Bad politics,.....bad campain,......bye Hilary!

Chas

Billy from Fl   June 12th, 2008 2:11 pm ET

Penn is absolutly right, Clinton was to easy on him.

She should have brought up every dirty little detail of Obama.

She should be the nominee not Obama.

David Goldman for OBAMA   June 12th, 2008 2:10 pm ET

PEN SHOULD SHUT UP.

HE COULD HAVE QUIT.TALKING ABOUT

HIS FORMER BOSS AND PLAYING THE BLAME GAME,

MAKES HIM A BIGGER LOSER.

No More Clintons, CA   June 12th, 2008 2:10 pm ET

She is just a FLAWED candidate who had POOR JUDGMENT hiring the wrong personnel, FOOLISHLY CLAIMED ENTITLEMENT of nomination, HAD NO STRATEGY OR PLAN, MISMANAGED her organization, MISUSED her campaign donations, MISSPOKE too many times...

She is just an INFERIOR candidate among all the candidates.

Without Bill, she would not be recognized. With Bill, they are doomed to FAILURE!

NEVER VOTE FOR ANOTHER CLINTON!

Sebastian   June 12th, 2008 2:10 pm ET

The Democratic Party has moved beyond this topic ...

No self respecting Obama supporter, including former Hillary Clinton supporters will likely be commenting on this thread.

It may be great fodder for historians, future political strategists or Republican masqueraders seeking to sow dissention among Democrats .... but few others are interested.

Dan   June 12th, 2008 2:09 pm ET

Mark Penn is the reason for the loss, period. He strategize wrongly.
This man does not deserve a penny and should not be paid.

How on earth could he not know what happened to the money??? He's the top man running and strategizing the campaign. His plan was to finish off early – even thinking that CA is a winner take all state!

He gave the campaign wrong advise and wrong direction. Hilary has what it takes to beat Obama. In fact, despite Penn, she came really close. This man should not have a job. He amazed millions and for what?!

Claude   June 12th, 2008 2:09 pm ET

Hillary lost because the media created a "rock star" status of Obama and it is a hot air balloon

You are all nuts   June 12th, 2008 2:09 pm ET

How in the world can this upstart from nowhere know more than anyone else. He is better than Clinton, he is better than McCain blah, blah, blah. This has to be some kind of sick joke on the American people. Why is the media pushing so hard for this guy who is questionable at best? I do not get it. I will not vote for Obama. McCain will get my vote. CNN cannot tell me that Hillarys supporters are going over to Obama or that he knows more than McCain. He has no record of achieving anything. Hillary supporters, come to your senses and do not vote for Obama. Stay home if you have to, but do not give this nobody from nowhere who knows nothing a foot in the White House.

Jennifer from Atlanta   June 12th, 2008 2:09 pm ET

boo hoo woulda coulda shoulda... now let's band together and get the repugnants out of the white house.

kim portland, oregon   June 12th, 2008 2:09 pm ET

penn, just go back to supporting your clients:

1. the country where 95% of the 9/11 terrorists were from-SAUDI ARABIA! penn and burson-marsteller did the PR for SA right after 9/11. apparently he's very good at the devil's work, cuz there are ididots who STILL believe iraq had something to do with it!

2. blackwater--criminals who are stealing OUR tax dollars and not delivering!

3. lying tobacco executives

4. countrywide

5. Aqua Dots-makes tainted toys in china

6. free trade deal with colombia

MARK PENN IS FILTH WHO WILL WORK WITH ANYONE FOR A BUCK--NO INTEGRITY, UNPATRIOTIC, UN-AMERICAN, SLEAZY, GREEDY! AN AMERICAN DISGRACE!!!!

go back to your filthy underworld, go back to YOUR PEOPLE.

Kiah   June 12th, 2008 2:08 pm ET

Waaaa Waaa Waaa!!!

HSNP   June 12th, 2008 2:08 pm ET

I wouldn't pay this bozo a cent. He was a HORRIBLE campaign manager.

ladymary   June 12th, 2008 2:08 pm ET

Come on Mark...just admit it, you ran a lousy campaign. You went into it feeling you already had the nomination in your pockets and just had to go thru the motions. It wasn't the media or sexism. You were out thought and out fought by a new fresh face with a wonderful new message. Hillary's plan to suspend her campaign and then resurect it at the convention hoping to get the nomination is crystal clear.

STILL BROKE~   June 12th, 2008 2:08 pm ET

You know it dosent really matter at this point, we can only hope that The super delgates change their minds on who Is more electable. I do beleive Mr. Obama has lost some steam. I beleive these new skeletons in his closet he is desperatly trying to divert attention from will be his demise. Good call for Hilary to stay in.

Pete   June 12th, 2008 2:07 pm ET

"Fred" Flintstone get over it! Hillary is a great woman. It was her campaign and the idoits she surrounded herself with that made her lose. Obama's money came from people like me who donated the little I had but it was all worth it!

OBAMA '08!

al   June 12th, 2008 2:07 pm ET

THERE ARE NO SCREW UPS, NOBODY TO BLAME. ITS NOT THE MONEY BECAUSE MONEY WOULD COME IF PEOPLE SUPPORTS YOU, THANKS TO THE INTERNET ORDINARY PEOPLE CAN FUND THE CANDIDATE THEY WANT. EXPERIENCE IS NOT RELEVANT IF YOUR EXPERIENCE IS NOT PUT INTO GOOD USE. NO MATTER HOW YOU PUT IT IT ALL COMES DOWN TO WHO IS A BETTER CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT. A LOT MORE PEOPLE THINK AS WELL AS I THAT OBAMA IS A BETTER CANDIDATE. STOP THE MADNESS. VOTE OBAMA.

CB   June 12th, 2008 2:07 pm ET

Still attacking Obama. Penn helped Clinton LOSE. He should accept some responsibility.

Abby   June 12th, 2008 2:07 pm ET

what a mess he is...Sometimes the best woman/man wins. You should congratulate her/him and move on. What an ungracious dimwit.

Lora B.   June 12th, 2008 2:07 pm ET

For all of the mistakes that the Clinton campaign made, they still had more popular votes than Obama, so why is this even an issue?

Bob, San Francisco, CA   June 12th, 2008 2:07 pm ET

Wouldn't it be nice to live in a society where political leaders ran on their strengths and not by "going after" their opponents for every imaginable offense real or (usually) fabricated?

Obama, for the most part, does not follow this patter and tries to speak to the people with intelligence and integrity (though I cringe to see him pander to AIPAC and conservative Christians).

Let's stop the mindless hating and start working on making America a good country again. PEOPLE rebuild a nation, not just the government. Obama acknowledges this and asks for our help.

Of course the haters out there like to think idiotic fantasies like "liberals" just sit around waiting for handouts. Well, all of my progressive and educated friends work hard, believe in the promise of America, and believe in the leadership of Obama.

Vern   June 12th, 2008 2:07 pm ET

Shut up Penn and go back to where ever You lost because Hilary is Hilary and we didn't want her. The first women to become Presidenté needs to come up on her own, not on the back of a has been Presidential womanizer.

Whiskey   June 12th, 2008 2:07 pm ET

Her sense of entitlement and polarizing character lost her the election....do not forget her math skills. it still humors me when people say she won the popular vote. get a clue.

al   June 12th, 2008 2:07 pm ET

Mr Penn,
You did everything right.
The media blew it.
Maybe the media wants McCain to win.
That's probably it.

IAMWMD   June 12th, 2008 2:06 pm ET

Fred, Obama's money comes from everyday supporters like me, myself and I. As a matter of fact, I'll send $25-$50 dollar each week for the remainder of the campaign season in order to fight the legalized terror campaign the Republicans wage via Carl Rove every election cycle.

al   June 12th, 2008 2:06 pm ET

Senator Clinton won this election
Obama thinks he won.

He was a con.

He kept Florida and Michigan delegates in his pockets to brag "I am winning! I have the most delegates! Look at me! No body thought I could win! Look at me!"

He ignored the voices of millions of Americans in Florida and Michigan.

The public saw it, Florida felt it and the voters won't forget it.
That's why there is a Democrats for John McCain support group.

In California   June 12th, 2008 2:06 pm ET

To fred,

Bill and Hillary made 100 million, since 2000

McCain is worth 100 million +

and you want to know, where did Obama's money come from (who made Nine houndred thousand dollars)

I am glad your priorties are straight. LOL

PartyUnite   June 12th, 2008 2:05 pm ET

No more in house fighting, move on, It's time to go after McSame......

Stooge   June 12th, 2008 2:05 pm ET

Hillary Clinton will bounce back. And Mark Penn is toast as a political adviser no matter who he wants to blame. I'd like to see who'd hire him to run anything now.

GO AWAY PENN!!!!   June 12th, 2008 2:05 pm ET

FRED...........Lets all ask Obama where all his money came from???
Get it in the public for all to see!!!! NOW...........Trust me if there was any thing to explain SEAN Hannity would be on top of it .Mark Penn is a BIG FAT RAT and a LIAR .....LOVE -U -HRC .......Let' s move on .....DEMS for EVER !!!!!!

Dems 08   June 12th, 2008 2:05 pm ET

Interesting that the 6 consecutive weeks Obama was hammered by the press before PA is not mentioned in his evaluation of media bias. Penn helped loose this thing; he can not divert the blame now- too little too late- huh?

Remember when HRC began complaining that the media liked Obama more? What happened? The media jumped at her command and went after him...who's side was the media really on?

jen   June 12th, 2008 2:05 pm ET

CNN....Is there anyone in there. Clinton lost..........Please move on

Lora B.   June 12th, 2008 2:05 pm ET

Hillary does not owe anyone an apology for the vote to authorize military force against Saddam. No Way – she lives in New York in case anyone has forgotten – the state that was attacked on 9-11. What would her constituents have said if she voted "no"?

aaron from minneapolis   June 12th, 2008 2:05 pm ET

The Clintons are still going after Obama. Seems like they don't even care about the direction in which the country goes. I have no idea how people ever supported Hillary.

D.C.   June 12th, 2008 2:05 pm ET

Penn = LOSER

truth squad   June 12th, 2008 2:04 pm ET

The media loved Bill Clinton in 1992.

George Bush Sr. said at the time "annoy the media- re-elect Bush"

Eleanor Clift of Newsweek magazine admitted after the 1992 election that "Bill Clinton was a new face, we liked what he had to say and we cut him some slack."

As far as sexism in 2008, many of the meanest comments about Hillary Clinton came from female commentators like Maureen Dowd and Rachel Maddow. Did Elizabeth Dole get any sexist comments in 1999 when she ran for President? I don't know of any.

Are We There Yet ???   June 12th, 2008 2:04 pm ET

Sen Obam-a-void not there yet and already looking very tired and an aged-old man. Can he handle getting there ? On the other hand Sen MCain looking bubbly and bouncy going on 39 !! and aiming to be the 44th Prez.
*************************************************************************
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%100% for McCain
No I did not say that before so go ahead and print CNN

Brian G, Sugar Land, TX   June 12th, 2008 2:04 pm ET

So, in short, Hillary and her team had no viable intermediate term vision or strategy to solve the simple problem of getting elected. She bumbled it!

Whew! Darn good thing we won't be electing her as a bumbling president with no viable long term vision or strategy to solve the nasty problems confronting the USA.

Hillary C., NY   June 12th, 2008 2:04 pm ET

Shut up, Penn.
Where did you think I spent $100M before Iowa?
And forget about the $5M bill you sent me!

Crush Rush   June 12th, 2008 2:04 pm ET

"Jabba the Hut"now says it wasnt his fault.Backing Nafta,selling our jobs to China and India,importing tech jobs,working for Walmart Leadership,and being a good closet republican didnt have a thing to do with it?

Are We There Yet ???   June 12th, 2008 2:03 pm ET

Sen Obam-a-void not there yet and already looking very tired and an aged-old man. Can he handle getting there ? On the other hand Sen MCain looking bubbly and bouncy going on 39 !! and aiming to be the 44th Prez.
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%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%100% for McCain

HELEN   June 12th, 2008 2:03 pm ET

HE IS SINGING LIKE A BIRD. TELL IT, TELL IT ALL. BUT PLEASE DON'T FORGET YOU WERE APART OF THE PROBLEM ALSO. IT'S OKAY THOUGH, HILLARY CAN TRY AGAIN IN 2012. (but can someone please tell her to wear a skirt with those suit jackets instead of pants....how can she run as the possible first "woman" president and never wear a dress or skirt)

Ladies wear ladies clothing with PRIDE while they go about their jobs

HELEN

Rave   June 12th, 2008 2:03 pm ET

She can't manage her team, money ... My simple question : HOW THE HECK DID SHE EXPECT TO MANAGE THE COUNTRY ???????
Her unfair attacks, race issues, negative campaigning managed to get her those few votes..
BOTTOM LINE : SHE LOST, SHE LOST, SHE LOST, SHE LOST, SHE NEEDS TO LEAVE BARACK ALONE>>> GO HOME HILLARY.
OBAMA (2008 -16)

Donna   June 12th, 2008 2:03 pm ET

Sorry, Mark.

You lost my vote when you started spouting off how my vote and state "didn't count."

Frankly I hope no future campaign will ever touch you because you're just too stupid to deal with the public.

Anonymous   June 12th, 2008 2:03 pm ET

No one should be blamed as than the woman herself.Instead of running a decent campaign, she opted to smears and being nasty,taking it personal,angry.

rich   June 12th, 2008 2:03 pm ET

Mark Penn owes Hillary a refund for political negligence and incompentence. For God's sake he did not understand such fundamentals as the delegates are not apportioned based on winner take all (like the Repubs) rather than the proportional basis. If I were her, I would refuse to pay him what I owe him, and let him take me to court, and let a judge decide if and how much he is owed. He quite frankly did not earn his keep and an adjustment is in order.

Smart   June 12th, 2008 2:02 pm ET

Well Hillary's supporters!

You can see who/what made you lose. It had nothing to do with Barack. Better get over it let us work together. No need crying over spilled milk.

A vote for McCain (who believes Hillary is a B**ch) out of spite will prove you critics right. Vote wisely.

Farrell, Houston, Tx   June 12th, 2008 2:02 pm ET

It's too bad Hillary employed the wrong people to run her campaign and Penn's statements sure don't help. Hillary will successfully move on, Penn's future may be at risk, so Penn should not be risking the integrity of the Democrat Party for his own self serving purposes.

Ed, Santa Fe NM   June 12th, 2008 2:02 pm ET

and maybe it's just that HILLARY STINKS ON ICE

Mimi De La Cruz   June 12th, 2008 2:02 pm ET

WHO YOU PICK TO WORK FOR

YOU INDICATES ONES LEADERSHIP CAPABILITY, OR

LACK OF IT. HILLARY WAS ALL OVER THE PLACE, BUT

WHAT HURT HER THE MOST WAS HER COMING IN AS

THE INCUMBENT. THAT INSULTED THE INTELLIGENCE

OF THOSE WHO ACTUALLY THINK FOR A LIVING. BEING

MARRIED TO BILL CLINTON WAS NOT EXACTLY AN

EXPERIENCE WE WERE LOOKING FORE. THAT CONCEPT

IS INSULTING TO WOMAN OF ACCOMPLISHMENT AS WELL.

IT'S AN OLD & HOPEFULLY PAST BELIEF THAT A WOMAN

ACQUIRES HER STATUES AS A HUMAN BEING BY WHO

SHE IS SLEEPING WITH. WE DID NOT APPRECIATE THE

HER SUPPORT OF THE WAR & HER & BILL'S

RACE INFERENCES. THE TEST OF CHARACTER COMES

WHEN THINGS ARE REALLY GOING BADLY & YOU DRAW

YOUR LINE IN THE SAND. THE CLINTONS WERE TRUE

TO THEIR PAST BEHAVIOR.

Brian from Fort Mill, S.C.   June 12th, 2008 2:02 pm ET

Hillary's campaign made many mistakes. Wasting all that money was obviously one of them.

Another is that they didn't expect the caucus states to be so important, so they focused only on the big states.

Still another is that they didn't have boots on the ground in the states after Super Tuesday. They thought they'd have it wrapped up by then.

How arrogant can you be?

Michael O'Boyle   June 12th, 2008 2:01 pm ET

I supported Hillary. Now I support Obama. He will be a great candidate and a remarkable President. Bottom line, He has "IT"!

Brett from Austin, TX   June 12th, 2008 2:01 pm ET

PLEASE, HILLARY...DON'T LEAVE US TO CHOOSE BETWEEN TWO IGNORAMUS'!

Generation X   June 12th, 2008 2:01 pm ET

Famous words from BRIAN TN & CHARLOTTE; We are 18 million strong and will not vote for Obama. Okay I don't believe you....give us some proof. By the way, send some of your blog money (paid staffers) to help Hillary's debts. LOL

Smarter than Emotion   June 12th, 2008 2:01 pm ET

I am amazed at the Clinton supporters who say that they will vote for McCain. This is a dangerous course of action that they are subscribing to. They may very well effect the outcome of the race, but will they be happy with the fruit they reap? McCain will keep us in Iraq indefinitely. We Will invade Iran regardless of whether we should. Our sons and daughters will be killed in waves. The draft will be reinstituted to support our broken military. Our lives will begin to more closely resemble those of the average Chinese citizen- and all to make a point. This group is acting like a bunch of children throwing a collective tantrum with no regard for the dire consequences.

Ed   June 12th, 2008 2:01 pm ET

Penn is on image recuperation campaign.

Addis - observer   June 12th, 2008 2:00 pm ET

pathetic; looser!

Praetorian, Fort Myers   June 12th, 2008 2:00 pm ET

The battlle was for ideals. Hillary simply showed her alliance to failed policies–thus signaling her demise.

The next President needs to understand that our Congress is actually the enemy. He/She must use veto power...and all other powers and influence of the office to remove us from Iraq–ensure a level playing field for tax payers (how many of your rich cronies have called you the voice of a century?).

Whats best for all Americans. Therefore I've joined the Libertarian Party of the US. , Bob Barr President 2008 !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kevin   June 12th, 2008 2:00 pm ET

David Axelrod is the smartest man in America

Brian from Fort Mill, S.C.   June 12th, 2008 2:00 pm ET

"fred June 12th, 2008 1:36 pm ET
Lets all ask Obama where all his money came from???
Get it in the public for all to see!!!! NOW"
---------–

His money came from the internet. Millions of people donating an average of $100. And since they were nowhere near the $2300 limit, he can get more from the same donors later.

This is common knowledge. You should know this by now. Everyone else does!

Karen from Charlottesville   June 12th, 2008 2:00 pm ET

Penn did a crappy job and everyone knows it. Obama ran a nimble, brilliant, strategic campaign, much like he'll run the Presidency.

Tim   June 12th, 2008 2:00 pm ET

Why is Mark Penn complaining about Hillary being under a microscope? For all of 2007, she was the "inevitable" front-runner for the nomination. Doesn't that deserve someone being under the microscope? Obama's every move has been documented and discussed since he pulled ahead this year. How is that an injustice?

Nick from Atlanta   June 12th, 2008 2:00 pm ET

Mark Penn needs to take his face away from the camera and stuff it back into his bag of Fritos.

JJ   June 12th, 2008 1:59 pm ET

This guy is an idiot and needs to shut-up! He was partly responsible for the loss and he wasn't on the same page himself with Hillary. That's why he ended up resigning. Quit your whining and accept that Obama will be our next President! Get on board!

Democrats Unite!!!   June 12th, 2008 1:59 pm ET

Hillary's campaign totally failed her! They took an automatic bid and see what happened?

Well we cannot live in the past. Hillary will surely be part of an Obama administration – VP or not.

Democrats 2008!

broadstreet buddy   June 12th, 2008 1:59 pm ET

Where are the stories about the supreme court overturning bush's laws and reinforcing the Writ of Habeus Corpus??!!! That is news.

"The practice of arbitrary imprisonment, have been, in all ages, the favorite and most formidable instuments of tyranny." – Alexander Hamilton

Nancy McKinney   June 12th, 2008 1:59 pm ET

MARK PENN IS STILL TALKING?!?!?!

HE IS THE REASON THAT MY HILLARY LOST!!!

SHAME ON HIM!!!!

pakuna   June 12th, 2008 1:58 pm ET

What YOU do not get is Hillary did not lose. berry obama would not campaign. All he did was take her ideals all her work she has done for the american people and called them his own. The demarcat party was set to be the first party to have a (black) person as a nominie. Well boo hoo on you. He is Not BLACK. he is mixed. so there goes the first black president claim.

Matt Canoga Park   June 12th, 2008 1:58 pm ET

You mean it has nothing to do with that stupid "little boy" style haircut you have or the fact that Hillary was a arrogant loudmouth obnoxious idiot that believed she was chosen to be president only no one from this country chose her? It has nothing to do with that or that fact that most Americans would rather burn this country to the ground before we ever let a Clinton near the white house again.

James   June 12th, 2008 1:58 pm ET

"If only they had listened to me" seems to be his argument, and a it's a weak one coming from the senior strategist.

lizfor hillary clinton   June 12th, 2008 1:58 pm ET

o yeah obama means more taxes yeap that is what we all need right...NOT.....he does not know anything about everything....

GIL TEXAS   June 12th, 2008 1:58 pm ET

I respect Hillary as a person and a public figure.But is she the only one who lost in the contest with Obama? What about the other democrat presidential condidates? Why are those who voted for them not making as much noise or any noise as those who Voted for Clinton? Coming to think about it, I do not believe the ones writing these things are democracts who voted for Hillary. Believe it or not they are hard core republicans trying to infiltrate the minds of the democrats who are fedup with the republican ways of doing things.

They may say or do whatever they want but come November we will show them that the white house will stand no more for spend drifts.
From surplus to trillions in the red in just eight years? God forbid!!!!

Michael Lorton, Virginia   June 12th, 2008 1:58 pm ET

Penn’s strategy and advice turned out to be totally wrong. Sometimes things turn out in such a way that only a fool would predict. Which is why fools, too, have their place in in history.

Jake145   June 12th, 2008 1:57 pm ET

I'm so sick of this crap, please can we talk about the issues....

Vote Nader   June 12th, 2008 1:57 pm ET

Try not to knock over your latte as you furiously type unwarranted attacks against Sen. Clinton, Mr. Penn and those of us who don't support the arrogant Senator.

For a true outside voice and forward movement – Vote Nader.

** Nader/Gonzalez 2008 **

Debbie,NJ   June 12th, 2008 1:57 pm ET

fred. There you go again. Blaming Obama. His finances are in order thank you.

keisha   June 12th, 2008 1:57 pm ET

What Penn didn't mention is the Vision Thing. Hillary was all about inevitability and did not talk about her vision for America until it was too late. Odd, since the Vision Thing was one of the reasons Bill beat Bush Sr. in 1992.

Michele J   June 12th, 2008 1:56 pm ET

You can't blame the media...especially since it was your campaign that kept leaking the infighting to it! Also, regarding Fred's question on where did Obama's money came from, that is public knowledge..all campaigns have to report where it comes from, how much was collected, and how much is spent. So no storyline there.

Oma   June 12th, 2008 1:56 pm ET

Mr. Penn is wrong – it was the advise to "go after him" that cost Hillary Clinton. We are all soooo tired of attacks.

1st Mrs. McCain is the Real Hero..   June 12th, 2008 1:56 pm ET

Sound like Mark Penn is bitter... and an opportunist continuing to drive a wedge to acheive a goal of "NOTHING"..

He is still owed 4 or 5 mill by the Clinton campaign.. Pretty good considering the Clinton Camp said he was fired and than changed it to he is performing other duties. Sounds like the Hillary would have been better off getting rid of the deadbeats sponges... Mark....

CW, St. Paul   June 12th, 2008 1:55 pm ET

What a strange, strange man. How much was he paid for delivering her defeat? She deserves so much better.

Phil, FL   June 12th, 2008 1:55 pm ET

Mr Penn – stuff a sock in it. It's done. It's past.

We've moved on.

Jobless, homeless, broke – but moved on.

Generation X   June 12th, 2008 1:55 pm ET

And for the Hillary supporters on these blogs crying they won't vote for Obama, go and donate to get Hillary out of debt before voting on McCain. ROFLMAO

insanity   June 12th, 2008 1:54 pm ET

Lisa June 12th, 2008 1:31 pm ET

Please Hillary don't leave us with these two losers!!!!!
-------------------------–

Lisa, let it go!.. Hillary lost because Barack was the better candidate with better policies. I know it's hard to let go, but you should face reality. Now all you can do is to make sure Hillary's policies are in the White House, and not someone who would undo everything she had accomplished. Vote for Obama !

Venus   June 12th, 2008 1:54 pm ET

Funny how the entire Clinton thugs blames every one!

Sad to see how much money her campaign spent and how much money Mark Penn made!!!

Thank God these people won't be any where near Obama's campaign! Mark Penn also thought it was winner takes all!

Lisa   June 12th, 2008 1:54 pm ET

Sorry, I made a mistake when I posted above the following: "Please Hillary don't leave us with these two losers!!!!!"

I meant thank you Hillary for leaving us with the greatest person in the world, Mr. Obama!

Francis, Texas   June 12th, 2008 1:53 pm ET

It's a seven series game. May be we need to extend it to nine to give you a chance. Just like the Patriots were favored to win the Super Bowl. It a contact sport. Just remember the opponent is also a professional. I didn't hear them complain about the Refs or the Media. The beginning of knowledge and Wisdom is first to aknowledge your incompetence then you can learn and see what the other guy did right. Ladies and gentlemen, it's a new era.

Hillary '12   June 12th, 2008 1:53 pm ET

McCain '08...!

Hillary '12.. !!

Rob   June 12th, 2008 1:53 pm ET

WHO hired him to be the chief strategist of Hillary Clinton's campaign? The answer is: Hillary Clinton. It was very poor judgement on her part and the result was a lost election. To compound the irony, she's got a huge debt and he got a huge paycheck. Thank God she will not be running the country, because her management and administrative decisions would no more take this country forward then they did her campaign. By the way, when do we get to chill from this kind of non-news?

Lynn   June 12th, 2008 1:53 pm ET

You need to go away. I don't think you should be paid since she started winning more states after you were ask to step down. Just write it off.

Robert in Toronto,ON   June 12th, 2008 1:53 pm ET

Mark Penn will never have a job with another Presidential electee. Ever.

Obama v McCain   June 12th, 2008 1:52 pm ET

this from a hypocrytical liar. -[snort] and he should've stayed in the background! He is just one of the reasons she didnt do as well as she could've. Besides, I'm trying to figure out what the point in rehashing all this up now. Newsflash- its over dude[snort]

Go Obanana   June 12th, 2008 1:52 pm ET

So you're telling me Clinton lost the nomination?

geeam   June 12th, 2008 1:52 pm ET

2081 is the future and 1919 is a centuary ago: go O go!!!!!!

Carl   June 12th, 2008 1:52 pm ET

"a fresh new candidate who also had appeal to the African-American vote and the latte voters" – Mark Penn

It's statements like this that defined the Clinton campaign. Quit dividing everyone in groups. When can we finally see a statement like this.....

"a fresh new candidate who appealed to American voters."

Generation X   June 12th, 2008 1:52 pm ET

Democrats don't forget about OPERATION CHAOS, OPERATION CHAOS, OPERATION CHAOS, OPERATION CHAOS, OPERATION CHAOS, OPERATION CHAOS, OPERATION CHAOS.

Also;

P = poor
U = uneducated
M = miserable
A = adults

Members; Brian TN, Jim FL, Charlotte, Belle, Karen FL, fred, Staunch Hillary Supporter and Jan FL. NOT THIS TIME

Scott Hughes in Atlanta   June 12th, 2008 1:52 pm ET

You mean, he doesn't blame Obama like the rest of Clinton's supporters???

obamacrat   June 12th, 2008 1:52 pm ET

Would someone please tell Mark Penn that his 15 minutes are up.

Enlightened Voter -   June 12th, 2008 1:51 pm ET

Hey fred, it's already known where Obama getshis money from – ordinary citizens like myself for instance who have donated $50 every payday. duh!

daniel   June 12th, 2008 1:50 pm ET

There was a survey on the media coverage, and both candidates were treated the same. Because of financial problems the media could not get the red carpet treatment at Clinton's campaign. They were literally using restrooms. On the other side because of a financially well disciplined
campaign, the Obama campaign was able to give the media a red carpet treatment.
Whom do you think they will support ?
Too many prima donnas in the Hillary Camp, and everyone starting from the leader(HRC), was in it for themselves.
It is a good thing HRC is putting Getting a Democrat in the WHite house
first, before herself.

smatt-ann arbor michigan   June 12th, 2008 1:50 pm ET

this big dummy, penn's the reason she lost, the clinton's could have continued to loan themselves money.penn's where she went wrong, if she would of had carville or baloga running her campain she clearly would have won the nomination.

I miss Hillary   June 12th, 2008 1:50 pm ET

I think I have to agree with previous comments that Mark Penn is an "idiot" and a "toad" and, he looks like a sleaze to me. What was she thinking?! I feel so let down. Waaaaaa............

Alex NYC   June 12th, 2008 1:50 pm ET

Aw... I miss this crazy guy! Maybe he should go work for McCain and sink that ship (further) as well.

ANGIE   June 12th, 2008 1:50 pm ET

why did hillary employ him

Adedokun from Atlanta   June 12th, 2008 1:49 pm ET

Please help explain to Hillary supporters that she lost and was never cheated . This will make them see reason to vote for Obama in November and not write Hillary's name on the ballot as protest

Enlightened Voter -   June 12th, 2008 1:49 pm ET

Is it no wonder she lost with that attitude. When will people realize that goodness always wins out over evil. In this case the nice guy finished first. Plain old Karma, what goes around, comes around. Get my point yet? Funny how they still harp on Obama's experience yet he brilliantly managed his campaign and it's finances and has made sound judgements to boot. So that runs that experience theory to the ground, don't it?

Steve   June 12th, 2008 1:49 pm ET

Mark Penn has proven himself, in public, to be an incompetent snake.
He can't even accept part of the blame for Hillary's loss, even though he was a key reason for it. Perhaps he should return the millions of dollars he charge the Clinton campaign for his services. He obviously wasn't worth the money. What a putz.

Shawn from California   June 12th, 2008 1:49 pm ET

Listen people . . . for the past 8 years the Republican party has ruined this economy . . . President Bush has taken unfair advantage of each and every one of us and put us in one of the greatest debts in our nations history . . . PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let this country rest in the hands of the American people and not the Bush administration . . . they've been playing all of us like fools for the past 8 years and it's time we put an end to this . . . it's been much too long since we've had a candidate like Barack Obama . . . this man WILL change this country and its economy .

and to all you "PATRIOTIC REPUBLICANS" out there . . . when your fearless leader (George W. Bush) took office, the average gas price was $1.46 . . . its now approaching 5 bucks a gallon . . DOES ANYONE NOT SEE A PROBLEM WITH THIS ! ! ! ! ? ? ? IT'S NOT A COINCIDENCE !

INVESTIGATE 9/11 ! !

OBAMA 08' ! ! !

Brian Metzger   June 12th, 2008 1:49 pm ET

This guy is obviously sleaze.

Jeff   June 12th, 2008 1:48 pm ET

What about sexism???

ever   June 12th, 2008 1:48 pm ET

water on the bridge! if they could not run a campaign very well then how can you bring new ideas for the country to get to the next level?
what it shows is that obama has new ideas and has the jugement to plan for a wining campaign;oh yeah thats why he won!

Undi   June 12th, 2008 1:48 pm ET

poor guy, this Penn screwball. He screwed up the campaign now he's trying to salvage his reputation as a strategist. He's a strategist alright, with a formula to lose

Bryan   June 12th, 2008 1:47 pm ET

Fred, Obama's money came from the Public. There are plenty of stories saying how Obama raised his funds.

Find them if you are interested.

Charles   June 12th, 2008 1:47 pm ET

You ever notice how nothing is ever there fault. How are you going to improve yourself if you can't recognize your mistakes. Also they blame the media for all these stories but they need to look at there own staff. These people were running to the press with stories.

Steve   June 12th, 2008 1:47 pm ET

Uhhhh...Fred? Campaign contributions, by law, are a matter of public record. You can see where every penny of Obama's money came from, if you do a little research and stop whining.

Molly   June 12th, 2008 1:47 pm ET

Hey Fred? His money came from people like me, $50 bucks at a time.

Nice try.

And Clinton lost BECAUSE of Penn, how characteristic that he would throw her under the bus instead of admit that he was, is, and always will be an overpaid loser.

Dave F   June 12th, 2008 1:47 pm ET

"ask Obama where all his money came from"

Are you serious? Many, many, many donors giving small amounts to him is the vast majority of his campaign funds.
You are a fool fred, perhaps you should ask where the Clinton Library money came from. Oh, that's right, they refuse to release that information.

Notre Dame Obama Fan   June 12th, 2008 1:46 pm ET

This man is disgusting. He denigrates the smart, college-educated democrats by calling them "latte voters." I, who consider myself an intellectual, hate coffee and don't like Mark Penn much better.

Rich In Seattle   June 12th, 2008 1:46 pm ET

Shouda, Wouda, Couda? She lost and that is that. Move on CNN.

Phil - Chesterton, IN   June 12th, 2008 1:46 pm ET

Clinton campaign adviser making pokes at Obama....Way to unify!

So besides being a sore loser, apparently some of her advisers have yet to be informed that the contest between her and Obama is OVER. GET OVER IT and get a democrat in the White House.

Agnostic Democrat   June 12th, 2008 1:46 pm ET

Why doesn't the candidate take any responsibility? Oh, that's right, if you're a Clinton, it's always someone else's fault!

jgill2   June 12th, 2008 1:46 pm ET

hillary will be next vp obama go with it the woman an the men blue coller workers an bill clinton help obama big time .

Sam   June 12th, 2008 1:45 pm ET

Well, well, well, Mr. Penn. Odd that you are so quick to point the finger, when you yourself were part of the problem. When did it seem right to go and lobby a trade agreement with Colombia as your campaign boss, Hillary, campaigned against that very thing? And the polls you took completely missed the mark. You continued to give her bad information about the situation, which resulted in bad decisions and faulty strategies. Yes, Hillary's campaign had financial and management problems, but she had so many people doing things behind her back or doing things wrong that she could have spent full time fixing internal problems (like you) instead of campaigning.

Hillary can definitely blame a large part of her loss on lack of loyalty and/or competence of her campaign management. Thank you, Mr. Penn, for helping her to lose. I'm sure she appreciates all that you (didn't) do for her. Since you were a key reason for her loss, why don't you return some of the millions of dollars you charged her for your services. Obviously you weren't worth it.

Didine - Maryland   June 12th, 2008 1:44 pm ET

Mark Penn your advice and your judgement to HRC were all wrong. That's the reason why she lost. So please be quiet and move on.

carl from Houston   June 12th, 2008 1:44 pm ET

come-on clintons fans realize it's over, that's the sexism talking

Tommy Hussein in St. Louis   June 12th, 2008 1:43 pm ET

Hey pumabots, please drop your irritating habit of pretending that you speak for entire states or 18 million people. You have not been appointed by all the voters in your state to speak on their behalf, and they can make up their own minds and collectively decide whether Obama will win your state, thank you very much. So let Obama and McCain campaign in your state and then we'll see how it plays out. And until the day I die, I will never believe that every last one of the 18 million people who voted for Hillary thinks like you and is a psycho like you.

Melvin   June 12th, 2008 1:43 pm ET

Fred its already in the public.

CNN--FOCUS ON REAL ISSUES   June 12th, 2008 1:43 pm ET

GAS PRICES ARE HIGH, FOOD IS EXPENSIVE, WHO CARES ABOUT MARK PENN?? PLEASE GIVE ME A BREAK CNN.

Why try 08   June 12th, 2008 1:43 pm ET

Fred is been report over and over again. Over 1 million donors with an average donation of less than $100. What more do you need to see in public.

For all the talk about Hillary 18 million voters it is funny they didn't think enough to give to her campaign. Obama supporter where inspired and they supported by vote and by donations.

NoMcSame   June 12th, 2008 1:43 pm ET

As I said before, Hillary's supporters lost it for her. it was their tight grip on their purses that has got her where she is right now. Run Hillary Run but when she needed their help in doing so they did not give her the help that she needed. MONEY.
Now go vote McSame because you are mad at the DNC and Obama.
HaHaHa. Now you want McSame who will cut off your head. How sad.

Obama08 money well spent.

Alanna   June 12th, 2008 1:42 pm ET

Blame everyone but yourself. Good tactic.

Not!

There are plenty of more reasons that that man. Just tell the truth and quite trying to get some sound bites.

Hopemonger in NYC   June 12th, 2008 1:41 pm ET

Mark Penn is just a sad lobbyist out of a job. Democrats, Independents and Republicans all know that it is a time for a change. Senator Clinton is a remarkable woman with great intelligence, but Senator Obama always had his finger on the pulse of America. We are tired of the same old washington (and Mark Penn in particular).

Please note Mark Penn's lobbying firm also is involved in the McCain campaign, so take everything he says with an ocean filled with salt

D.J.   June 12th, 2008 1:41 pm ET

It is ALWAYS somebody else's fault. And THIS is why nobody trusts Hillary Clinton.

RRO   June 12th, 2008 1:41 pm ET

This is pathetic. The guys screwed up, ended up losing an election he should have won and is now trying to save his own reputation by saying he wanted to take a different approach.

He had a roll in it and should own up. I think towards the end of the campaign Hillary started to ignor the advice and find her own voice. Every time she went on the attck, which is what it seems Mark Penn wanted her to do, it backfired.

He is one of the major reasons we will not see President Hillary Clinton this year.

But come 2016 hopefully we will see Hillary for President again minue Mr. Penn.

Agnes   June 12th, 2008 1:41 pm ET

The "loss" was not a loss but a wholesale give away by the DNC. If Pelosi, Dean et al did not pressure the super delegates, (they do have their own minds don't they?) then the outcome would have been different. Hillary is the people's choice Barack is not. The Democratic Party sold out to the pretty man who can mesmerize with his voice over the rock solid, experienced intelligent woman. It is all history now but the truth is Hillary won the popular vote and Barack did not win MI or FL, they were given to him by the DNC. The last time the committee overrode the voice of the people we got Bush for 8. This is all party politics within the party. A sad day for democracy when the best candidate was railroaded.

M.K. Ozman   June 12th, 2008 1:40 pm ET

Actually, Mark Penn is one of the main reason Sen. Hillary Clinton lost. Penn's state of mind was still in the '90s, and he could not adjust to the drastic changes in 21st century America. He was completely disconnected from the reality around him. Besides, he was busy lobbying for the Colombian government to pay attention to what was going around him. He was a disaster to HRC's campaign especially because she overrated him against the advice of many of her aids who figured him out early.

dylan fan   June 12th, 2008 1:40 pm ET

"Clinton suspended her campaign last Saturday with tens of millions of dollars in debt"

This alone shows why Hillary should not not have been president nor vice-president.

Give us someone who can manage money.

Turnabout is Fair Play   June 12th, 2008 1:40 pm ET

Let's be real here. Part of the reason she lost happened when she crossed over the line by stating that McCain and her were more qualified than Obama to be president. You NEVER say something like that if you're in the same party, that was just plain stupid and it cost her among independants and men who were on the fence. She then alienated blacks as well as Bill with his Jesse Jackson and fairy tale statements and her white working blue collar statements. The money issue in the campaign just showed incredible ineptitude on the part of campaign fianceers that had not prepared for an eventuality such as what occurred after Super Tuesday. They thought she was inevitable but when she lost Iowa, her campaign people panicked because they saw the beginnings of a runaway Obama juggernaut and could not stop it for the next 11 primaries after that. Welcome to reality, you have no one to blame but yourselves.

President Obama/ V.P. Sebelius '08/12

58 old white ladies for OBAMA   June 12th, 2008 1:40 pm ET

IT WAS HILLARY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO PICK COMPETENT

PEOPLE, AS IT WOULD BE IF SHE WAS RUNNING THE

ENTIRE COUNTRY. HER VOTE FOR IRAQ, WITHOUT EVEN

READING THE INTELLIGENCE REPORT, WAS A MISTAKE.

HAD SHE HAD COMPETENT ADVISOR'S, THEY WOULD

HAVE ADVISED HER TO FIRST & FOREMOST OFFER US

A SINCERE APOLOGY, FOR THE LOSS OF OUR YOUNG

PEOPLE & OUR ECONOMY, WHICH THE WAR TRASHES.

A PRESIDENT DOES NOTHING BUT EVALUATE & USE

JUDGMENT. SHE WAS WRONG ON ALL COUNTS.

Damian Salter   June 12th, 2008 1:39 pm ET

Still more Clinton, cnn...?
She's not in the nws any more!
Work it out, and stop the bashing.

shamous mc   June 12th, 2008 1:39 pm ET

Porky-the-pig Penn...still wishing to get paid for your lousy service?
Consider that 5 mil a donation.

Someone should put you under a microscope...maybe they can rent the Hubble Telescope.

Rose - Baltimore, MD   June 12th, 2008 1:38 pm ET

Mark Penn, Did you listen to anything that Clinton said last saturday in her concession speech. We should not ask what if's? Stop running your mouth and go sit down somewhere. What are you hoping to achieve at this time. You are wasting people's time. Just go sit down somewhere.

Raymond Duke   June 12th, 2008 1:38 pm ET

Penn was absolutely right along with Bill Clinton. Take the man to task. These people that she believed in led her down the road to an unexoected end. She should have listen to Bill and got down in the dirt when the Obama campagin did. She should have let James Carville run her campagin along with Bill Clinton. The democrat leadership , the Obama campagin and the media would have been taking to task and not given a free ride to do as they pleased. Even though she won and was cheated out of the nomination it would not have been possible with the lead that she would have had if Caville and Bill Clinton would had run her campagin. They would have made the stakes so high the DLC wouldn't have taken the chance to fix the election.

A Democrat No More   June 12th, 2008 1:38 pm ET

Unfortunately true.

Jack   June 12th, 2008 1:38 pm ET

Mark Penn had an impossible job – try to get the press to report the truth. The media in America is destroying our democray and most people – especially those in the media – are either to blind to see or just flat out in denial.

Kaye- Jacksonville FL   June 12th, 2008 1:38 pm ET

Will the whining never end?? Penn was the disaster behind the Clinton campaign – so no surprise he's got to deflect blame. Can't anyone on that staff just suck it up and admit "we screwed up – big time!"

Video Guy   June 12th, 2008 1:37 pm ET

I think Mr Penn should just write off the 5 Million owed him. Since he was unable to deliver the nomination.

voter from CT   June 12th, 2008 1:37 pm ET

Mark Penn should put this to rest, atleast until Mr. Obama wins and Mccain is no threat.

Ed   June 12th, 2008 1:37 pm ET

Mark Penn once again unwittingly gives us the real reason why Hillary lost because peolple alike him and Bill Clinton didn't understand that we are tired of the same ole stuff. He further didn't understand the insatable appetite in theis country for change. He and Bill are war horses from the past and they were appropriately put out to pasture. He needs to admit he didn't have huis finger on the pulse of 2008 and fade to black.

The US abolishes century old clinton dynasty   June 12th, 2008 1:36 pm ET

typical of the clintons, blame someone else......._
typical typical

fred   June 12th, 2008 1:36 pm ET

Lets all ask Obama where all his money came from???

Get it in the public for all to see!!!! NOW

Les, Long Beach, CA   June 12th, 2008 1:35 pm ET

It's the press' fault, it's other people's fault in the campaign, it's 'latte' voters' fault.... when are these people just going to admit they lost and their own mistakes and hubris are the reason why.

This fat toad needs to crawl back in the swamp he came out of and run some campaigns for dog-catchers in NY state.

ginger   June 12th, 2008 1:35 pm ET

what's done is done. Take Hillary's advice and move on.

nitro   June 12th, 2008 1:34 pm ET

Stop crying you pompus idiot. You still dont get it. The american people are tired of lobbiest like you making millions of dollars for companies that are already rich at the expense of common people.

FROM HILLARY TO MCCAIN   June 12th, 2008 1:34 pm ET

mark penn,

you sir are an idiot and the reason Hillary lost :(

Lisa   June 12th, 2008 1:31 pm ET

Please Hillary don't leave us with these two losers!!!!!

David Goldman   June 12th, 2008 1:31 pm ET

MARK PEN IS AN IDIOT.

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