June 16, 2008
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The White House won a ruling in federal court Monday in a lawsuit about its computer system and e-mails.
The White House won a ruling in federal court Monday in a lawsuit about its computer system and e-mails.

WASHINGTON (CNN) — The White House Office of Administration is not required to turn over records about a trove of possibly missing emails, a federal judge in Washington ruled Monday.

A ruling by U.S. District Court Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly says the agency does not have "substantial independent authority" so is not subject to the Freedom of Information Act. Therefore, the White House does not have to disclose documents relating to its troubled e-mail system. That system developed problems which may have caused millions of White House emails to be unaccounted for.

The watchdog organization Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington–known as CREW– had sued under the Freedom of Information Act. The group expressed disappointment in the ruling and said it is appealing the decision.

"The Bush administration is using the legal system to prevent the American people from discovering the truth about the millions of missing White House e-mails," said CREW Executive Director Melanie Sloan.

In January, the White House said it cannot rule out that it may have lost certain e-mails. The possibly lost e-mails are from a period in which the United States decided to go to war with Iraq, White House officials leaked the identity of CIA officer Valerie Plame Wilson and the Justice Department started a criminal investigation into who leaked the information.

The White House has denied any evidence, including e-mails, have been destroyed.

Filed under: President Bush


Jeff, Chicago, IL   June 16th, 2008 5:17 pm ET

Why is it they ever only manage to "lose" the relevant bits? It's never the interoffice football pool e-mail or the dancing baby YouTube links.

As noted earlier there is no way these were "lost". The guys running that network would be fired instantly if it were so and just not going to happen at that level.

Rick   June 16th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

The white house should be transparent.
Nominees should be transparent.
This world is a dangerous place today.
Please bring all questionable acts by candidates and by the white house accountable.

Obama is scary..
He still needs more vetting.
What is wrong with our government.
I know that African Americans think he's great.
That's okay. But how could we invite this man in our living room after seening his racist and radical friends..
Now he is acting as if he can deal with interational problems when he has absolutely no military experience.
Hamas supports him.
We still don't know how the Muslim countries will view him because of his being raised by his Muslim father.

Socialism has only killed 100 Million people... let's give it another try!   June 16th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

Yes, let's start "impeachment proceedings" over any and all things and/or policies differences with which I disagree (or could benefit me politically).

What's that? Bush is a Republican?! Oh, the Nerve!!! Start impeachment proceedings NOW!

mike   June 16th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

ooooo yes not a surprise!!!!!! Bush deleted emails and hide the files hahahahahahah good for you Bush you are the biggest looser anyways. McBush is the same person as Bush so try to vote for Mccain and will see what happens . I dont vote for careless American that doesnt care about our troops coming home!!!!

MD   June 16th, 2008 3:49 pm ET

Bush should been put through impeachment process, but the Democrats calculated that they will win the election without that.

Let's see if Dean and Pelosi's gambit pays off.

Brian Knoxville, TN   June 16th, 2008 3:40 pm ET

how much did they pay the judge?

I LOVE OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jack Jodell, Minneapolis, MN   June 16th, 2008 3:31 pm ET

This is a disgraceful and disgusting ruling. The Bush White House has been so deceitful and so secretive its entire tenure, I am certain they have deliberately and routinely destroyed documents and erased millions of emails. I surely hope this ruling will be appealed all the way to the Supreme Court! This White House arrogantly forgets that WE pay THEIR salaries. They also think they have the right to read OUR emails and listen in on OUR phone calls. If that is so, then WE, the PEOPLE, have EVERY RIGHT to KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING with our tax dollars!!!!!

Snarf, Atlanta   June 16th, 2008 3:31 pm ET

Makes no difference anymore. We all know they destroyed those emails because they put the Valerie Plame crime inside the Oval Office. At this point, we can't be bothered with impeaching a lame duck. No one is paying Bush any attention anymore. The truth will come out when he's having his ghost-writer reading his memoirs to him.

Susan   June 16th, 2008 3:23 pm ET

How convenient for Bushie – thing sgot lost- like his mind???

Gordo   June 16th, 2008 3:21 pm ET

What do you mean elect? The Bush's appoint, and if Jeb wants to be the Pres….he will be, period. If not McCain will be, because the Bush family is not done with world domonation yet. America you are so screwed, no medical, no homes, and now no jobs, the only thing worse is another Bush, and then it will be no peace until someone fires off the big-one, then the idiots that started it will crawl out of there bunkers, and laugh at all the losers, that beening you and I. Bush should be swinging right next to Sadam.

rice, bryan   June 16th, 2008 3:19 pm ET

the white house has been busier that a cat in a liter box covering it's crap.

Bob Chisolm   June 16th, 2008 3:15 pm ET

"The possibly lost e-mails are from a period in which the United States decided to go to war with Iraq"

No new information was sent through e-mails. The decision to go to war as approved by the US Congress and the UN.
Since Melanie Sloan is actively representing Valerie Plame in a legal suit, her motives for CREW are a bit suspect for claiming pure ideals as their motive…

Graft Corruption and Cover ups   June 16th, 2008 3:13 pm ET

Why is anybody surprised by this? We have had 8 years of it already.
Don't you get it yet? I am still waiting for an apology from the people who voted for him twice. Wont hold my breath though.

Sammy   June 16th, 2008 3:13 pm ET

In the end it doesnt really matter because more than likely in a year they will all be released by a Democratic administration.

Elizabeth, Philadelphia, PA   June 16th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

The Bush Admin does nothing but lie and hurt the American people. I want to see all those jerks tried for war crimes. I want to see them in jail. But will it ever happen? No, because their lawyers always get them off..

Jeff, AL   June 16th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

Emails do not get "lost". In most cases, "lost" data can be retrived directly from the disk drive. And in any network as large and secure as in the US government, there are several backups on data storage in the event anything does get wiped out on a server. I am so ashamed of my government!

Brian from Fort Mill, S.C.   June 16th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

"New Day June 16th, 2008 1:23 pm ET

ugh! who cares? 7 months to go and he's out FOREVER!!!!"
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Amen. They should build a huge sign at Times Square that displays the hours, minutes and seconds that Bush has left. :)

George Bush   June 16th, 2008 2:59 pm ET

The approval rating of Congress is lower than mine.

Farrell, Houston, Tx   June 16th, 2008 2:56 pm ET

Watergate, Bushgate, Cheneygate whatever you might want to call it, they are crooks and liars.

After further review,Texas.   June 16th, 2008 2:55 pm ET

UNCLE SAM must be drinking the koolaid or is Rove himself,lol

judy   June 16th, 2008 2:50 pm ET

The axis of evil: Bush, Bush, and McBush

Raven   June 16th, 2008 2:50 pm ET

This administration should have been put out to pasture when Condi, Rove and the rest of the Bush ilk claimed executive privilege. Any time you claim ex prvlg, you are hiding something. Does anyone remember when condi refused to testify under oath? What does that tell you? It is hard for me to believe that anyone in this country still supports such liars. Matt who made the above comment comes to mind. Perhaps he is on the bush payroll. It can be the only explanation for such idiocy.

Joe Bloggs, Haiku, HI   June 16th, 2008 2:49 pm ET

Bob Chisholm – you've been drinking that right-wing koolaid, my friend!
Everything you say is a right-wing bogus talking point that has been disproven – if you only bother to research it . If one day the Dems are able to get the Bush folk to honor a subpoena, the truth will come out. Until then, carry on living in your right-wing world where the lies and distortions of Limbaugh, Hannity and Fox Noise allow you to ignore your conscience and carry on 'believing' what these miscreants will have you believe!

Dave in NYC   June 16th, 2008 2:48 pm ET

This is a loss for the American People, and a victory for those who would abuse our system of checks and balances.

We need to kick these guys out of office before they do further damage to our constitution!

Raven   June 16th, 2008 2:41 pm ET

Matt June 16th, 2008 1:38 pm ET

Now listen as the democrats whine because the President can legally keep some things to themselves.

The democrats think they are above the law, they need to be thrown out of power!
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I love how this genius accuses the dems of thinking they are above the law…This has got to be a joke. Nobody is this stupid! Are they???

ohio voter   June 16th, 2008 2:35 pm ET

What did you expect from this administration?

Andy Arlingen   June 16th, 2008 2:34 pm ET

Like the man said: the judge was appointed by the Clinton administration in 1997. That means she is likely a democrat, but not necessarily. She is judging against the law, not judging against what you responders here think.

Tin   June 16th, 2008 2:29 pm ET

Betrayal at any level is possible once information is withheld from "we the people." If the NASA reports about global climate change had a fair chance to reach public when its top scientist was TRYING to convey the info. to us, Al-Gore would have had a better chance of being elected in 04′.

We the people HAVE TO DEMAND greater transparency.

amtFresno,CA   June 16th, 2008 2:27 pm ET

stay on it CREW. There must be something up with these PARTICULAR lost e-mails. This admin has been the worst in American History in every way. Obama for Pres 08

Pam   June 16th, 2008 2:23 pm ET

Hmmmm…I wonder if this is a Bush appointed judge.

John   June 16th, 2008 2:18 pm ET

Our government has become so corrupt under the Republicans it makes me sick.

Rudy NYC   June 16th, 2008 2:18 pm ET

Why does this remind me of the Nixon tapes, which were eventually brought to light?

The judge is probably correct in stating that this group does not have the authority to ask this of the White House. The ruling suggests that someone else does, however

Danny, CA   June 16th, 2008 2:14 pm ET

Democrats would have tried to pounce on it if the decision was against the White House. I want to know what the old senator from Vermont who is chairman of Judicial committee wants to say.

Jay   June 16th, 2008 2:12 pm ET

How convenient the emails were lost around the time the US decided to go to war over faulty intelligence and out and out lying by the President and his cronies.

Bush and Co should be in jail.

Franky   June 16th, 2008 2:07 pm ET

I mean, there was a time when you could visit the "White House" and have a couple shots with the President, you know. Yep, that was WAY back in the day, LOL!! Wouldn't it be cool to if you could still do that? It seems like nothings changed, LOL!!

Jim   June 16th, 2008 2:04 pm ET

Someone seriously needs to start an impeachment process and look into this…

Fred Miller   June 16th, 2008 1:54 pm ET

Just more lies from the King of all liars, The worst President in the history of our nation, DUBYA…what a disgrace

Andrew Lee, Nashville, TN   June 16th, 2008 1:53 pm ET

Sorry martin…..she was was appointed to the United States District Court in May 1997.

However, the notion that there aren't any shenanigans going on is a little far fetched IMO.

Democrazzy !!   June 16th, 2008 1:53 pm ET

The Government can Wiretap our homes violating our Constitutional rights in the name of Protecting us. Fine ! I will live with it. But we the Citizens cannot exercise our right to Freedom of Information ??!!????!!!!
I don't understand this !
Is it because the White House is not in USA ????
Very Confused ???!!!
Any Help here folks ???

Jack   June 16th, 2008 1:52 pm ET

Does anyone know who appointed the judge who rendered this decision?

And can CREW appeal to the Circuit Court of Appeals?

Josh   June 16th, 2008 1:52 pm ET

Just wait until Obama takes office and then we will finally get hold of those emails. Because a person cannot completely destroy an email since they are still on the hard drive. All it would take is to get an computer expert to hack into the computers hard drive and retrieve all those deleted emails. Judge Colleen Kotelly is just another RIght Wing Bush appointee that instead of making the White House turn the emails over, she decides to defend the redneck from Crawford Texas.

Tammy - KCMO   June 16th, 2008 1:50 pm ET

Gee, one more cover up by Bush and the Republicans. What a surprise! (/sarcasm off)

How anyone could vote for someone in the Republican party for 4 more years of the same is beyond me.

Orlandonative   June 16th, 2008 1:50 pm ET

If something like this happened in another country, the US will put sanctions against it and insist that the leaders be tried for war crimes….or invade the country to get the evil leader out of the office and save its people…….

Someone please save us…

Carmen, Ret Vet Florida   June 16th, 2008 1:48 pm ET

That is news to me. E-mails they don't get loss neither does armed forces records. Everybody backups their computer system everyday private companies and gov. Also those records get archive and store in permanent vault and kept there for life or until they are needed.

Why is it that only the white house e-mails get loss and Bush armed forces records?.

Michael, Lorain Ohio   June 16th, 2008 1:46 pm ET

Oh wow big surprise…gee do you suppose the Bush Admin might have tried to cover up something?? NO…I would never suspect the gov't to protect its own from lawsuits. And then people wonder why we don't trust our own gov't anymore.

RH   June 16th, 2008 1:46 pm ET

Shades of ZANU-PF…

martin   June 16th, 2008 1:45 pm ET

of course not.they are above the law.judge probably put in under daddy bush.

Bob Indianapolis, IN   June 16th, 2008 1:45 pm ET

Girlfriend is also down with warrantless wiretapping [from the Huffington Post]:

"A government official familiar with the NSA order said the president urged that the change be explained to only a very limited group of people on a "need-to-know" basis. That meant that, for nearly four years, only two people in the judicial branch of the U.S. government knew about the warrantless searches: U.S. District Judge Royce C. Lamberth, who presided over the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court at the time of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and rotated off the court in May 2002, and U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly, who succeeded him."

Michael Lorton. Virginia   June 16th, 2008 1:45 pm ET

How conveinent for the White House….pointing the finger at "high tech" malfunction…

Bob Chisolm   June 16th, 2008 1:44 pm ET

Leaked Valerie Plame Wilson?
WHY was an under cover CIA operative hiring her husband for a public mission? Of course she would be known at that point because it would be in the public record. The only thing that should be investigated is the nepostism of payng family members with public money AND the stupidity of undercover people not knowing that a simple Freedom of Information Act request would disclose who they were. DUH!

Mr. Spock   June 16th, 2008 1:43 pm ET

Fascinating!

Bob Indianapolis, IN   June 16th, 2008 1:42 pm ET

Why do they even bother to call it the "Justice Department' anymore? A serious house-cleaning of all Herr Rove's minions needs to be done soon!

A recovering Republican   June 16th, 2008 1:40 pm ET

President Nixon lives on — this is even worse than the 18 minute gap or the missing white house records under HilBilly. — The critcal emails are missing, lost, can't be found? And they say nothing is ever deleted?

Tim Koehler   June 16th, 2008 1:40 pm ET

I vote for Marvin Bush.

Matt   June 16th, 2008 1:38 pm ET

Now listen as the democrats whine because the President can legally keep some things to themselves.

The democrats think they are above the law, they need to be thrown out of power!

Bob   June 16th, 2008 1:37 pm ET

Jeb Bush is an idiot

Broad street buddy   June 16th, 2008 1:37 pm ET

Oh i wonder if this is any of the judges that obtained her job after the white house fired all of those judges for political reasons??? You remember the firings that Attorney General Gonzalez had to resign over.

AC   June 16th, 2008 1:36 pm ET

Jeb Bush for president. Now I'm really laughing. He is imcompetent.

Dan, MA   June 16th, 2008 1:35 pm ET

Lost? More like erased. This government is in need for monumental change, though the people will never be given all the correct information.

The Bush Twins : George and John   June 16th, 2008 1:34 pm ET

This is so typical of the Bush administration. Liers all of them !.

Uncle Sam   June 16th, 2008 1:33 pm ET

If it really is change we want, then why not vote for the candidate with a proven record of change rather than the one who merely promises it?

Citizens for McCain '08
Coalition of Independents & Democrats for McCain

OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT   June 16th, 2008 1:32 pm ET

Whatever Is In Those E Mails Is Probably Enough To Bring Criminal Charges Against A Lot Of People In The Current Administration! Many People Must Have Let Out A Sigh Of Relief After The Verdic Was Read!

RickytheGriff   June 16th, 2008 1:31 pm ET

It's nice to be above the law, isn't it?

Sydney   June 16th, 2008 1:31 pm ET

I think the country had enough of the idiots, so thank you very much, but NO thank you to another Bush.

Glenn   June 16th, 2008 1:30 pm ET

Nothing but a cover up! The Bush Presidency is so pathetic!

No Socialist, NY   June 16th, 2008 1:27 pm ET

Some people just don't know who the real enemy is. CREW ought to aim it's guns at the terrorists not the administration which has kept this country safer since 9/11. We're fighting terrorism, not appeasing terrorists and their sympathizers. Wake up; this is reality.

LB   June 16th, 2008 1:26 pm ET

Bush lied about the WMD in Iraq and then distroys the e-mail that could prove it was all a lie. How convenient! No Bush-McCain in the White House. Wonder how many e-mails of McCains have gotten lost too.

Candace -Houston, TX   June 16th, 2008 1:25 pm ET

This is so sad…..

tina   June 16th, 2008 1:25 pm ET

typical….

Phil in KC   June 16th, 2008 1:24 pm ET

Once again, the White House thumbs its nose at us and gets away with it. These guys are abrograting their responsibilities and ignoring their oath to uphold the constituion. I think Kucinich was right – they should be impeached.

New Day   June 16th, 2008 1:23 pm ET

ugh! who cares? 7 months to go and he's out FOREVER!!!!

NickNas   June 16th, 2008 1:23 pm ET

THIS is the Judicial system that BUSH Built for us. NIXON was forced out of office for erasing a few tapes BUSH deletes MILLIONS of records to cover his tracks and POOF he gets off scott free.

I am ASHAMED of our Government and feel like I live in a Third world Dictatorship. Why doesn't he just declare himself RULER FOR LIFE!!!??

Brian from Fort Mill, S.C.   June 16th, 2008 1:22 pm ET

That sucks. That really sucks. :(

Jim   June 16th, 2008 1:21 pm ET

So it's ok for them to tap our phone's but when the table's are turned…

Karen Awad, Kissimmee, Florida   June 16th, 2008 1:21 pm ET

And let me see, we believe this? I don't think so! What would anyone in their right mind believe coming out of the current white house. Lying is the norm there!

Obama v McCain   June 16th, 2008 1:20 pm ET

and blah blah blah

After further review,Texas.   June 16th, 2008 1:20 pm ET

As John Dean stated in his book,this coverup is 100 times worse than Watergate ever was.The criminals destroyed all that they could,even the hard drives.

Superdelegate   June 16th, 2008 1:19 pm ET

sounds like Colleen Kollar-Kotelly is up for a promotion.
greasy.

s   June 16th, 2008 1:19 pm ET

"The White House has denied any evidence, including e-mails, have been destroyed." This adminstration would deny its own mothers if it served their ends.

DJ, LA, CA   June 16th, 2008 1:15 pm ET

How can they "lose" emails? Sounds like this was obviously intentionally and the White House seems to have a lot to hide…for not just this incident but also Dick Cheney's energy policy/meetings among other issues.

VOTE 08!!!   June 16th, 2008 1:15 pm ET

Emails don’t get lost. Ask any computer geek. This is ridiculous.
Can we just let Bush go home earlier and have an interim President.

Cynthia   June 16th, 2008 1:13 pm ET

Stay in the fight , Citizens for Responsibility & Ethics in Washington, the American citizens deserve to know the truth.

ATLian   June 16th, 2008 1:12 pm ET

Oh hell to the no!

Anne   June 16th, 2008 1:12 pm ET

How very convenient For Bush

Independent for Obama   June 16th, 2008 1:11 pm ET

LOL. They "lost" the emails from when we went to war, when they helped leak the identity of a CIA agent, and when the Justice Dept. started looking into the leak. That is some funny stuff…

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