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This guy needs a hobby. Okay Nader, understand this my man. Taking the option to not accept campaign money from the government is not a policy. It's an option. Secondly, what is your primary stance as an independent? You ask for politicans to not accept money from PAC, Lobbyist, or the government but you slam Obama ???
You can't have it both ways pal.

"If any of these clowns could raise half as much as Barack..."

Obama can raise and waste all the money he wants to. He outspent Hillary 4 to 1 in PA and STILL LOST BY DOUBLE DIGITS.

"Together, we will make a difference in November.”

Yeah, like swinging the election for the Republican. Imagine that.

It is painful for me to vote for John MaCain if Mr. arogant does not consider Hillary as his VP.

Obama wrote, ghned on the questionaire he signed that it was contigent on factors (the media usually leaves out this fact). Mc Cain has already shown he can not be trusted on this issue and is underfire by the DNC for breaking campaign finance rules. Then there is the fact that most of Obama's campaign is supported by small donations by individuals-very democratic as well as unpresidented. Don't forget the 527's the RNC has, too. I say GOOD FOR OBAMA

It was Nader's spilt of the democratic vote that got us Bush to start with. I think this is a hugely self centered and self-serving move.

Most of Obama's fundraising is via Internet by individuals and especially young people, not big business or lobbyists. Shows how frustrated the common folks are with federal politics – everyone wants CHANGE at the top.

is this guy for real?
Nader is nothing more than a Republican running as a sidebar candidate for the Republican party.
think about it. He knows that he will not and absolutely can not win and he also knows that when he runs he actually pulls from the Dems. The math always works for the Repubs.

This man and anyone who would be dumb enough to vote for him are idiots.

Like him or not he can not and will not win..let the big boys run the show and during the off season build your party. if you are truly trying to make a difference you wouldn't be doing this now you would have started at the end of the last election so that you would have already had a base, and a realistic shot.

don't get me wrong I like the things that Nader has done for this country but he is not a true leader and the way he runs for office shows it.

Liz F:

The point you are missing is that Obama lied, yet again. He realizes he can make more money through donations – bottom line. The federal funding was to limit campaign spending.

As a life long democrat I can say for the first time that I am embarressed and ashamed of the democratic party and disgusted with Pelosi and Reed not standing up to Bush and their fellow democrats in both chambers to stop the funding for this illegal war. The democrats need to regroup and stop the money flow and stop the war. If they can't do this then I look for them to loose power in November.

Nader: The only presidential candidate to come out of hiding after doing nothing all year prior to making his big splash and expect legitimacy and adoration. Thanks for the seatbelt laws and consumer advocacy and protection, but you have no authority to criticize others when your own measures are lacking their own merits.

Yawn...

Nader is a joke. He doesn't even deserve this blurb on CNN. go retire already. What a narcissist.

How can you be against government spending, but oppose Obama for not taking public financing. That is hypocritical in itself.

Ralph,please stay out of it,people dont want the truth,they would rather believe lies.They want to lay back and just enjoy it,like the weather. All you will do is get the worst of two evils elected like the last time.

Wow, I'm so glad we have the internet so that people like the clueless Obama supporters above can write the garbage they've written: clueless about history, clueless about how you get on the ballot as a presidential candidate, and totally clueless about how BO's fundraising is actually done. PUMA Pac.

I don't understand what the issue is with how Obama raises his campaign money? As long as he's following the rules, why is it the business of his opponents?
I have the think this is an issue because he is able to raise funds in this way like no other politician has ever done and it's scaring the other politicians.
He doesn't owe it to the opponents to fall in line to receive campaign money in the same way they do.
Get used to it – Obama is the politician of the future!

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Now Ralphy,

You know better than to point out Obama's flaws. He's a perfect man and his bots won't believe anything negative about him – even if he says it himself. They will cut any and everyone down who don't agree with them. Heck, you're probably a racist now.

Now drink your koolaid and no more picking on poor Obama.

Where do these people come from?....UNDER A ROCK

Nader is old and a "has been." He is dreaming if he thinks he will derail Senator Obama's candidacy.

Nader is in Looneytuneville!

Are we not allowed to change our minds on issues? John McCain and now Nader are bashing Obama for "changing" his stance on certain issues but isn't that what you are supposed to do or should do when you gather more and more information and thus are better equipped to make a decision. I wish the current administration would have changed their minds on many issues once it became clear that they made several wrong decisions.

Since when is refusing money from the government a bad thing? I would think the Republicans especially would applaud this move.

You know the 527s will be out in force if McCain goes with public funding. This is the only way Obama can fight against the type of campaign everyone knows McCain and the RNC will run.

And why is it that Nader claims to be independent but always seems to criticize the Democratic nominee?

UUUUUUGGGGGHHHHHH, i can't stand this guy. Obama gets small donations from "the people" Period. 1.5million online donations. I like how Nader never mentioned McCain, I wonder how much the Republicans are paying him to run this year.

I'm no fan of Ralph Nader but he's not exactly wrong. A little bit of research shows that Obama will take any cash he can get no matter who it's from. And if you look at his fundraising prior to the presidential primaries, over 60% of his funds came from corporations and lobbyists. Obama is ruthlessly ambitious and will do anything and say anything to get elected. I’ve been a democrat for 30 years and have never sat out an election prior to this one. I’ll be staying home in November. The choices are too dismal.

with nader on the ballot, obama INCREASED his lead over mccain by 1 point!

OBAMA08

Can any of you complainers say you have ever done anything good for anyone else, or do you just like to bash people who have tried? This is America, and we all have the right to run for office, at least some people try to do good, and then there are you "I" creeps who can only say negative because that is all you know. You all need to take a look at your own stupid petty little lives and quit being so quick to bash others who are at least trying to allow you keep our lifestyle so that you can bash them . You people ar so beyond stupid it is frightening.....

When the Republicans are angry that is good day for repulicans now add Nader to it this is a sign that our next president is going to be Obama getting attacked by Nader and the Right. He is raising money from regular americans donation of $5,$10,$25 so on. This is the leader we can beleive in.

I dont like Nader but he is certaintly more qualified to be president then bambi is....

If no Hillary on the ticket I go mc cain.....

Another thing, Ralph - you are old news and bad news. We have moved on and a Nader campaign just isn't viable. Too much at stake here, Ralphie boy. We cannot afford to waste time and effort on Ralph Nader (and to think, I and so many others, actually held you in great high esteem back in the 60s - oh, how things change!),

Obama wants to change the rules when they favor himself. That is change you can believe in, just like Hillary. Both of the Democratic candidates love to change the goalposts

Moderator: Supposedly postin on a public News site is the American Way?

Why do you keep holding and then deleting my posts?

Barack Obama, is smart enough to change his mind, because he can see the Handwriting on the Wall, of John McCain, a liar with his partner in crime , President George Bush. The Republicans, already have more money than Barack Obama, NOW!

djg

Is he running to win, damage, or loose?. I just don't get his logic.

Patrick Henry June 20th, 2008 12:52 pm ET

"...Libertarians 2008

30 state ballots–and moving up!!..."

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Congratulations on getting on 30 ballots! That's fantastic. Good luck to Rep. Barr and your Party this fall.

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** Nader/Gonzalez 2008 **

Vote Nader, I thank him every day for electing Bush twice.

Here's the deal, people - it ain't brain surgery. Obama changed his position and rightly so. The Republicans have a boatload of money and have no compunctions about using the dirty politics of the fringe groups (like those who were responsible for the swift boat ads in '04). He is quite correct – the public campaign finance system is BROKEN, BROKEN, BROKEN! There is too much at stake this election to allow money to be a deciding factor and it surely will be if the Dems rely on public financing regimens.

you obama people are sick

Seems to me that Obama has JUST SAVED AMERICANS over $84million dollars of TAXPAYER MONEY!!! Why is that such a bad thing??

Nader is a nuisance and is nothing more than a sideshow. He couldn't look any more stupid. This is an old man who can't control his own ego and narcissism.

Has anyone seen where the lion's share of Obama's money has also been coming from? Big business, including millions from the Mortgage Industry.

When Obama made the statement regarding public financing, he didn't realize how well he could finance is campaign through small donations, which IS public financing but of a different & superior sort. I don't consider it a flip-flop to change ones position when new information comes to light that provides a better choice.

I voted for Nader when he was a Green Party candidate but I think for this election I'm voting for Obama. The first candidate I've ever voted FOR and not the lesser of 2 evils.

Ah..... the republican's best friend..... Thanks for the War in Iraq, masive deficit, bad economy, weak dollar, high gas prices and etc..... Repubbies and Nader 4ever

THis guy needs to hide somewhere he has been running for president every year since 1950 and the most he got is 5% what is he trying to prove? Answer he likes the attention.

NADER WE ARE STILL UPSET AT WHAT U DID TO THE AL GORE PRES RUN SO SHUT UP AND GO AWAY PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD BEGONE!!!!

This is easy, Obama got his money from 1.5 million voters and not any lobbyists. This is as close to democracy in action as you will ever get.

Next!

PS Nader, thanks for Bush 2000 and Bush 2004.

WHAT AN IDIOT.

It is a surprise for me how many people are willing to cover Obama’s lies. So much for a change in our society. You all are a bunch of hypocrites.

Nader!

Ralph, please go away. You gave is W. Isn't that enough hell for one country for 300 years? Go away. Far, far away. You are not relevant and not wanted. Go away. For good.

Nader...if my old olds 88 from the sixties had gone to as many races as this guy, it would be scrap metal ten times over, which is what Nader is.

Looking at the brightside...Nadar helps Obama...Obama, up 1 point when Nadar factored in...Hmmm...so go Nadar...thanks for helping us, by us I mean a united Democratic Party, elect the next President.

As for Brian from Knoxville, sorry about your recent confusion. Father's Day and all. Hope you enjoyed celebrating with your brother/father/uncle...We understand, NO we don't really...

Obama 08

Go away Nader...why don't you make yourself more useful and run for Congress or state office?

As a former at least give Obama a look, I saw all I wanted to see and it just keeps getting worse.

I am all for Nader getting into the race. It's the American Way, despite that one candidate and his supporters think he should rule the world? What is up with that, anyway?

I just donate $5 to OBAMA campaign. So far I have donated $30.00 in $5 increment.

he is so full of it.

Nader IS A REPUBLICAN, that's the ONLY explanation why he ran against Gore in 2000 and now against Obama in '08!

Those voting for Nader ARE ACTUALLY VOTING FOR MCCAIN!

Its a sad day when Americans choose not to discern, and vote without thought of how our nation will be impacted!

It's so funny reading these comments every day..mark this post.. John McCain will be president despite every news org trying to make it seem like this is a close race. I just can't wait for it to be over with in 4 months and end this wishful thinking by the left ...for the THIRD straight election. The U.S. is a conservative country, except for 15 major urban areas...check out a county by county voting map of 2000 and 2004 for the facts.

Ralph Nader is a "GOOF SPOOF" he needs to crawlback under the rock he slithered from. He never won in the past so what makes him think that any of use are listening to him now. He only wants to add fuel to a small fire but it won't work. Their all just annoyed because Barack can do more to fight the Mc Cain 527 with private donations than with public financing. It's a shrewed but intelligent move say's the news commentators and they know what their talking about. Besides the last time I checked this is a free country and we have the right to change our minds.

Go Ralph – if Hillary is not on the ballot in November, Ralph will get my vote .................................................NOBAMA

PUMA Independent (former Dem)

Seriously Nader? Is he even in touch with most of America anymore?

Nader is trying to split the democrat and republican party by stealing as many votes as he can. Making the race closer and even harder for Republicans or Democrats to win. Stand by your beliefs, if you are for change vote Obama if you want to continue the George Bush Administration vote McCain but know what these people stand for. Regardless of how your personally view these people what do their plans entail that work with your plans. This goes for those who say they are not voting or voting for the republicans cause hillary didn't win, would you vote against her when she is asking you to stand behind Barack.

Who actually cares what Nader thinks not many of americans. At least
Obama wants his campagin to be funded by everyday americans who
can hold him accountable than behind the scene big companies who
can pull his chain anytime they get ready. Go Obama

this guy is a joke...it seems that nader is is the repub's "ace of spade" and they play it whenever a republican candidate is in jeopardy of losing hoping to sway some of the voters...HILLARIOUS!!!

His heart is in the right place but he has no grip on reality. all he is really doing is taking votes away from the Democrats. Not one person who votes for Nader would vote republican if he weren't rinnung. I hold Ralph Nader personally responsible for both terms of the Bush administration. I have wondered if he is actually a GOP plant.

Obama is as sleezy as they get......he is flip-flopping now and will continue to do so. He has no intention of doing anything of what his words say! Shameful representation of the Democratic Party. He doesn't want all the votes to count. He doesn't think he needs some states for the General Election. This is how Obama works....he cannot win without outspending and buy the election. He is incompetent and can only win by buying his way. And what about those people who support Obama with the bucks....no more complaining that you cannot afford the price of gas. If you are willing to support financially a candidate who is not willing to do anything for the gas prices.......then you deserve what you get and that does not include gripping about the price of gas.

Vote American..........Vote McCain!

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Please Leave Ralph!

Nader is an anachronism in the United States presidential election, I simply fail to understand why he tries again and again to attain a position he cannot achieve. What goes on in that senile mind of his? Does he think he can win?
When I was in first grade, my teacher said that anyone could be President, but its clear to anyone and everyone today that that does not hold true for Nader.

God, just listen how mean these obama people are. This is a good examle of how these people behave. Boy, I am sure glad I don't have to see them on a dark street or somewhere. I live in a safe, civilized part of the country. One of the last few pockets of the country that hasn't been taken over by the mean people. A good quality of life, here in a red state stronghold. Life is good here, we will never turn it over to you evil people.

Everything good this man has ever done for our country, pales in comparison to the damage wrought during the Bush Administration. And unfortunately, we have Ralph Nader to thank for Bush's "election."

Nader is an idiot. Every four years, he runs for election and raises funds indisguise to enrich himself. He can't fool the people any more.

Who ?

Knoxville: Are you serious or a few months late for April Fools? You have a better chance of winning than Ralphy Boy. Nader is looking for attention that's all. He is a very intelligent person with some great ideas but you cannot change anything by sitting on the sidelines throwing rocks and pissing people off. That strategy just dose not work.

LOL! Perfect timing.

I respect Nader's work for consumer rights and I voted for him in 2000. But never again.

I can understand that you don't support his policies, but some of the comments here are ridiculous. He should be banned from running? Why, has this country given up on Democracy? ANYONE can run under any platform they want and they have that right. As soon as we exclude people from the process we have become an oligarchy.

"A good affirmative action program uses a variety of methods to achieve the goal of increasing diversity, including using race and gender as one of many factors in evaluating the suitability of an applicant."

From Nader/Gonzalez website and yes.. he will get creamed about that one folks!

Knoxville, Operation: NObama @ 12:46 pm ET criticizes Obama for "unprincipled and sleazy politics... that we true Democrats know to be wrong," yet signs his post with "Puma PAC."

The hypocrisy of supporting a Political Action Committee, a 527 organization, while criticizing Obama's decision on fundraising is unbelievable.

This is good strategy on his part. He wants Hillary's supporters. Pandering, Pandering, Pandering. Who could blame him. He needs all the support he can get.

DEMOCRATS UNITE!!!

Is this fool getting sabotage bribes from the GOP or what? What is his motivation for keeping a Democrat out of the White House? Please go away, Ralph.

let's all vote for Nader, i'm sure he knows how to win/fix Iraq, handle Iran, fix our economy and work with the Chinese.. he'll lead us like FDR – let's go Nader!!!!! (insert sarcasm) ... a vote for Nader is a vote for nothing – you might as well stay home on vote day!!!!!

Hmm.

Maybe Nader is an option this year.

Obama has certainly been moving away from the rhetoric that he used during the primary. NAFTA and public funding are just two examples, but he's also moving away from some of his foreign policy statements.

It certainly looks and smells like politics as usual. Where's the "change"?

You caused 8 years of crud! Sit down and lets us get a non neocon in the white house!

What Ralph Nader did to this country is inexcusable. He's lost his mind and his soul – please stop reporting about him.

Let him go away. He is also counting on tax payers money for his campaign because he knows very that Obama will raise more money and that will leave him in limo. I thought he was against politicians using tax money for political purpose. Maybe he can be MCcain's running mate.

Ralph Nader is my new Idol. Just love this guy for telling the truth, even if he has no chance of winning. By exposing this Charlatan,
he is a winner in my eyes.
Let's keep the Socialist/Marxist out of the Whitehouse.

Thank you Ralph for saying what McCain and the other politically correct politicians are afraid of saying.

NADER WHO??

Americans, please don't waste your vote on this fool. Doesn't he run in every election and he still can't win.....NADER, SIT DOWN AND STAY HOME........

OBAMA '08

Oh, Ralph, I forgot you were there. You may go now.

LOL! He said Obama is surrounded by "veterans of the military industrial complex status quo" – wouldn't McCain be the definition of that?

good business make some money from donners

Whomever you support, It's disturbing to see MD for Obama say someone should be banned from an election.

How about we support the democratic process and allow all voices to be heard.

And yes that means even those that don't agree with Obama.

Remember this is a democracy, not the church of Obama.

Veterans For Obama June 20th, 2008 12:52 pm ET

Like a pesky cockroach. Who supports this guy?

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Real Americans do.

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** Nader/Gonzalez 2008 **

Nadar why don't you shut up? I think you get paid by GOP. You are not helping. There is no way you can be a president. Why don't you leave us alone. Please go away.

And? Nader is barely relevant. To be honest, I don't know why ya'll waste coverage on him. It's not like he'll matter this time around.

go away no one wants to see you

GOOOOOOO NADER! We need a Spoiler to stop this BO madness!

Barack Obama is not trustworthy. He breaks his promises and his judgement is flawed. Ralph Nader is right!

PUMA Democrat

i'm as left and green as can be, but Ralph really needs to cool it and bow out.

a fourth-grader would know better.

i don't understand why this guy is running when it's so obvious he doesn't stand an ice cubes chance in hell of winning. Of course he has the right to run for office, but it just seems to be a waste of time and money. I guess he comes in handy for those that want to vote but don't like the dem. or repub. candidate. Whatever.

Ralph Nader is totally irrelevant. Nader 's ego set the environmental movement back 20 years. He is a pariah that no one is going to listen to. It's sad to see such a destructive trait and self delusion in a man who sacraficed and destroyed his legacy to his ego.

No really, who cares what Nader says. He has never been much of anything, about much of anything, and has not accomplishe much in the political arena or with voters since he began this presidential thing of his years ago. Ralph continues to be and will always be a thorn in the Republicans side which is the only good thing about his presence.

Excuse me but I thought that having over 1 million people donating to your campaign was NOT considered "big business" and "special interest".

This is just a Grumpy old rich man who decided one day hey I think as a hobby I'll run for President, we should ignore him.

OBAMA 08!!!

Nader needs to get over himself and get out of politics. Nader single handedly gave Bush the election in 2000 and threatens to do the same thing now for McCain. Ralph Nader if you read this please do the country the favor and GET OUT OF POLITICS!!!! You have zero chance of winning so why run. Is it that your ego is so big that you simply step away? If that is the case then make the ultimate sacrafice and kill your self. We will create a monument for you and you will be held in high public regard. If you continue to split the Democratic Party you will become an indelible blemish on American History. Take one for the team, drop the self righteousness and support Obama.

Wonder why he failed to mention McSame who has his campaign run by lobbyists & special interest groups? Oh, I get it. Because he is a closet Repub. Period. Full Stop.

Someone should tell Nader that you attack the most dangerous opponent first, then after that's been dealt with, then, maybe, you deal with the less threatening ones.

Kind of like we should have done with bin Laden rather than worry about Iraq.

RALPH IS A FOOL LIKE LOU DOBBS WHINES AND COMPLAINS BUT WILL ALWAYS MADE THE SITUATION WORST. WHAT A LOSER...

Does Nader not believe Obama's campaign press about the small contributions that people have made to his campaign? Does Nader not believe that over a million individuals have made contributions to the Obama campaign?

To be polling 6% across the country is an achivement for Nader. I don't think that he has gotten that high in 8 years. He should join Obama's campaign rather than fight it. That would keep Nader out of trouble.

Nadar is clueless as they come. He purports to be for certain values, but instead of doing what he can to further those aims, he puts himself in the forefront and actually harms his stated goals and values.

Whether he will admit it or not, Gore would have won in 2000 had Nadar dropped out. This makes him indirectly responsible for all the damage done by the Bush Administration, as that Administration would have never existed if not for Nadar's egotistical campaign.

Any vote for Nadar this year is a vote to extend our national nightmare.

Hi Ralph Nader I want you play a game like year 2000
Don’t worry you will get Hillary’s votes too
Hillary 08 or Mc Cain 08

wow..this hatred towards nader is interesting...this man truly stands for change and you obama supporters call him senile, crazy, fool, etc...funny...

Mr. Nader; You have been a spoiler for many years. Why don't you try to do good work and stay out of presidential politics.
The reality is, we've heard your message, over and over again and you don't resinate. You essentially work as a spoiler. Your 15 minutes of fame were over long ago.

Nader is as relevant to the political process as Paris Hilton is to lowering gas prices.

If people are not willing to donate directly to a candidate --

Why should the gov't decide for us where our tax dollars should be spent? I'd hate like hell for my tax dollars to go to the McWarmonger campaign.

DO NOT check the box on your tax form. Contribute directly to the candidate. That's the fair way to do it.

Nader, Act your age! you stupid spoiler! what do you want!!!!!

Who is he?

Reporting on any comment made by Nader is a waste, as is his presidential bid, and of course a vote for him is a waste as well. He is a clown.

Let's see, Ralph Nader.....Ralph Nader....nope....doesn't ring a bell

This guy's like Geraldine Ferrara....never knows when to shut up and get out of the way, what'd he get last time he ran, .3% of the vote? Come on Ralphie.

From someone who went to work for a Nader organization right out of University this breaks my heart.

Obama is getting his money from small donors................."the people" you are talking about............so why the attack? You should be applauding.

You have already done enough harm to this great nation in 2000!

Do you really want to help elect another Republican?

You are as short-sighted as these PUMA idiots!

Think country first, ego last!

Obama/Nunn in 2008 and beyond!

Ralph Nader stands for shifting the power from the big corporations back to the people. Does Nader understand who runs this country? If 2% of the nation's population controls 60% of the wealth, well it surely is not the people running country. Ask Nader when was the last time a poor person offered him a job?

Mr. Nader I disagree with you on many, many things. This, however, is not one of them. Obama could/should win the election, but by making money (both collecting and spending an issue) he is opening up a door that really didnt need to be. My bigger issue is with the amount of spending now being unlimited. This election could turn into who can spend the most money, in a time when our economy is in decline that is not something he should be bringing up.

Obama wanted the rules and candidates promises enforced when Michigan and Florida voted early. Now Obama wants to break his promise when it's convenient to him. What a hypocrite and a liar!

Nader? For real? Pander-mania? Does this man have any modicum of self-worth not to mention respect?

Nader, you're welcome to the shock of your insignificance in our political process. Has it registered in your mind that it is perhaps an honorable thing to do – for Obama to reject public funds – considering the dire economic straights the country faces and to rely on funds raised from citizens?

Think before you crawl out of your spider-hole or forever shut your trap.

Nader is a LOON! No one cares what you say, dumb dumb!!

Yeah, right.

How does Nader sleep at night, or even look at himself in the mirror – knowing that his 'dog in the manger' role was a key contributor to the rigged election of GWB and the last seven years of apocalyptic consequences? Is he not satisfied with more than half a million of his own semetic brethren killed, several million rendered homeless, several thousand Americans killed and thousands more maimed for life, our economy tanked to the point the dollar of 2008 is worth less than 60 cents of the dollar of 2000, our honor, values and constitution sullied .... Ralph, do you not want to get out of this? Give a chance for positive change to this nation; it needs it.

Nader is more damage then he is worth. Please sit down and shut up.

"Who cares what Nader thinks, you did not win the nomination so please shut your face…" – Cheryl

You do realize that Ralph Nader is not a Republican or Democrat but is in a run for president. Like Bob Barr, these are contenders because the U.S. is a multiple party system... So it doesn't matter about the nomination as he is in his own party what Barack is in the Democratic Party.

I;m confused.. if the article is about John McCain attacking Obama then the PUMAs are all over the blog with GO McCain.. now its Nader against Obama and it's GO NADER? man.. maybe you SHOULD all support McCain.. biggest flip-floppers i ever saw! Second, McCain had better find a wat to get rid of this poser before he becomes the republican spoiler for 2008! Third, Nader doesnt fool me..i know exactly why he is running and it all about his greasy pockets!!!Bet he'd be willing to take public financing.. he'd never make half of it on his own!!! loser.

Go Nader! Better him than Obama. Any day.

No Abomination in the Presidency!

Puma PAC

McCain – 2008

As the GOP troll postings prove (see "PUMA" posts above) The Nader strategy fits right into their game plan.

Nader is no progressive. He's a tragic and destructive tool of GOP corporate rule.

But this time it won't be enough to end America's hopes.

OBAMA 08

Voters should listen to Nader. Right now, everyone is freaked that he will "steal" votes from Obama, with McCain's election being the result. However, no one can legally "steal" votes. I voted for Nader in 2004, and I'm glad I did. I live in Texas, which was going to vote Republican no matter what. So, my vote for Nader didn't hurt Kerry in any way.

The issues Nader brings up are issues that neither McCain nor Obama has the nerve to speak on: corporatism, pollution, unions, nuclear power, drug companies, and many other problems whose solutions are not going to be easy. The major candidates would much rather avoid the tough calls – mostly because Americans vote against people who talk straight. Look at what happened to Jimmy Carter when he said we need to do something about our dependence on middle easter oil.

People need to realize that although Obama claims he doesn't recieve money from lobbyists and oil companies, he accepts money from the spouces of lobbyists, those who work for lobbyists and former lobbyists.

According to factcheck.org, Obama has accepted more than $213,000 from individuals who work for companies in the oil and gas industry and their spouses.

Two of Obama's bundlers are top executives at oil companies and are listed on his Web site as raising between $50,000 and $100,000 for the presidential hopeful.

This is not 'change' you can believe in.

all i saw was, "blah blah, blah... Barack Obama’s lead over John McCain increased by one point in the most recent CNN national poll when Nader, a perennial presidential contender, was included as one of the options."

thanks ralph!!

Ralph, I don't get it. You complain about Washington campaigns being engineered and bought by special interests, right? Well, Obama is an underdog candidate who got it done by inspiring millions of individuals enough to donate even during economic hard times. If what you say is correct about special interest lobbies (namely $$ = influence = corruption) than how can you have any problem with this. In essencen, Obama will be held accountable by the very people he is supposed to be accountable to...THE PUBLIC!!!

Seriously, you're reaching, and your 15 minutes was over 8 years ago. How about some more consumer advocacy instead? You were great with that.

Nader has LESS political experience than Obama. He talks a good talk, but he is not getting in the door. AND he is as OLD as McCain.

Drink all the koolaid you want! Nader's dreaming.

You know what? This guy needs to have a life! Just like other Independents. No offense but he's not worth any time for me...

Fact: Obama has received the bulk of his donations from the American people, not from special interest groups.
Fact: The Rupublicans are now scared as hell.

Nader , you're democrate or not ! very sad of you !

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Mr. Nader needs to find another way to make himself politically relevant. Promoting misleading information is not helpful. His monastic vows haven't helped him, and they wouldn't help obama.

Nader, get your teeth fixed. You have money, don't be thrifty–your teeth are directly related to your health. If you won't take care of yourself, what makes you think we think you will take care of us? When I say take care of us, I mean lead us in a good direction by utilizing the appropriate funds from the govt. If you never spend a dime, we may continue with falling bridges.

I'm not being mean, just factual.

Nader needs to chill out and get a position on Obama's cabinent. Secretary of Old Guys!

Why is this still an issue...old news...Obama can raise much more money without the limits. The more he can raise the better chance he has over McCain, creating a bigger gap.

GO AWAY

Now Ralphy,

You know better than to point out Obama's flaws. He's a perfect man and his bots won't believe anything negative about him – even if he says it himself. They will cut any and everyone down who don't agree with them. Heck, you're probably a racist now.

Now drink your koolaid and no more picking on poor Obama.

> Don't drink the koolaid.

So now you are a Ralph supporter, right? What a typical Republican shill... can't even stop from flip-flopping on a candidate. Take your PUMA pac and shove it where the sun don't shine.

Nader , shut up!

I have voted for every Democratic nominee since Carter. However, I don't want to be connected to Democrats (or anyone else) who would use the tactics of persuasion used in the comments and blogs of the various websites I have seen. I don't know if these are written by young people who simply were not taught to respect other opinions or if these people are just mean spirited.
In any case, I hope you understand that you are not helping anyone when you resort to calling people names or otherwise insulting them. It makes it clear that you cannot support your position and, therefore, hope to persuade by intimidation. If you can support your position with intelligent argument, why don't you? Why do you need to say: if you believe……….., you are ignorant, racist, stupid etc. Why do you need to call others names: senile old spoiler, McBush, HillBilly. If you really believe McCain is similar to Bush, why not point out the similarities instead of calling him names. This hatred and animosity has no place in American politics. You are worse than the swiftboat ads.

to Knoxville:

Ever wonder why we have an electoral college system and not a pure popular vote election system? People like you.

Seriously? Ralph Nader? That's the best you can come up with? Just stay home.

why isn't cnn reporting on McCain's comments in what he said, that he didn't love this country until he was deprived of his company.

I agree with other comments: re: ralph nader sitting down and being quiet.
Obama is raising money throug internet and small donations, much different from the republican counterpart, mcsame.
Wouldn't that be called a campaign funded by the people?
what's wronog with this story?

Why? Is Nader jealous that he will not be able to raise money like Obama? McCain and Nader act as if they would not have done the same if they were money machines like Obama. I agree that the Obama campaign could have handled this much better by pitching the fact that his style of fundraising truly represents public funding. With everyday Americans are donating to his campaign...sounds like public funding to me.

I have voted for every Democratic nominee since Carter. However, I don't want to be connected to Democrats (or anyone else) who would use the tactics of persuasion used in the comments and blogs of the various websites I have seen. I don't know if these are written by young people who simply were not taught to respect other opinions or if these people are just mean spirited.

In any case, I hope you understand that you are not helping anyone when you resort to calling people names or otherwise insulting them. It makes it clear that you cannot support your position and, therefore, hope to persuade by intimidation. If you can support your position with intelligent argument, why don't you? Why do you need to say: if you believe……….., you are ignorant, racist, stupid etc. Why do you need to call others names: senile old spoiler, McBush, HillBilly. If you really believe McCain is similar to Bush, why not point out the similarities instead of calling him names. This hatred and animosity has no place in American politics. You are worse than the swiftboat ads.

Nader why waste your time and ours go away........ We have had enough distractions during this election year, we dont need you stirring the kool-aid when you dont know the flavor.

Get this loser out of here. We will not have 8 years of Bush it it wasn't for him. He is a snake.

Nader get lost you are a creep

Dear Mr. Nadar – a. Read the comments on this blog to get a better view of public opinion regarding your campaign. b. Look at the total number of comments posted to realize how many people still pay attention to your existence. c. Begin researching retirement homes.

Hey Bots-why so hateful with the comments???(shows your pissed off that others may have a differing viewpoint than your Savior!
-I thought you all have the new way of politics under your belts-Obama is from Chicago Politics-OLD WORLD-down and dirty! Daley style!

-Nader will have my vote

Ralph Nader!!!... Oh I thought they said Darth Vader. Can we read about Darth Vader instead??

Had to add this quote too:

"He [Nader] is, I believe, an authoritarian, a man on a white horse, and I for one, hope that he will never ride into the White House." - David Sanford, Nader's former editor, 1976

Just something for CNN to use to fill in space and time with little or no meaning in the real scheme of things.

I wish Ralph would not run. He paved the way for Obama, now he needs to step back. Barack is doing what Nader should have done years ago. He needs to work in the Barack administration and make a difference that way. Not the way he's doing it, at the eleventh hour, after Barack is worn out from dealing with the Clinton machine.

Come on supporters Barack needs us now–let's support him.

The "spoiler" is back.
I get the feeling that the biggest contributors to his campaign are Republicans...

Nader please leave politics because you are a spoiler. You are 75 years and should enjoy your retirement. Keep your opinions to yourself.

Another old going-senile has-been. If he were going to win anything, then – just like McCain – he would have already done it by now.

Enough with the old-world politics. Let's elect someone who has an IQ higher than 20.

On most points Nader seems to be right. But somehow he generates strong feelings that he is doing it to spoil the elections for Obama and not for what he, ostensibly, believes in.

Another old white woman for Obama
Go away you senile old spoiler. You have done your country enough damage for 2 lifetimes. You know you can't win, you just want to screw up the election.Begone! DITTO!!!!!

Way to go Ralph! With the ever growing list of flip-flops coming out of the Obama campaign, this being just the latest, I am seriously considering looking at Mr. Nader to cast my vote for in November. We sure do not need a guy in the White House who cannot seemingly take a stand on any major issue, who has a record of casting "present" votes in the IL Senate just so he did not have to take a stand on important issues, and who while running for President has flip-flopped at least 4-5 times on major foreign policy issues, NAFTA, and more. Barack Obama is just not ready for prime time, and we as a country cannot afford him right now. At least Nader seems like a man of his word and has always been willing to say what he means and mean what he says.
P.U.M.A. Democrat

OH Lord.. I had JUST began to forget about this joke of a man. One great way to get some real free press in this tabloid world is to attack the front runner.

OH GOODIE, I hope he really spoils it for the Messiah. HAHAHAHA. Obama is going down and will hit rock bottom in November. By then American will open its eyes to this joker, liar, arrogant, pompous, flip flopper. Can't wait to see it happen!!
PUMA

Oh Boy... here he is again. Motormouth Nader. Nader is a hater... that should be his campaign slogan.

Nader is right. Obama just caught in another lie.He's a Flip Flopper.

This is the guy who essentially stopped Al Gore from becoming president. Go away, we don't need you screwing up another election.

Like a pesky cockroach. Who supports this guy?

Obama wants his money coming from the average Americans (increment of $10 & $20). What's wrong with that? Get real Nader, even your so call supporters know that you can't be elected.

What a guy.
Thank God there's a player for the green left–that will detract from the Democrats. Thanks Ralph–you may be our only hope of NOT getting this socialist elected.

Libertarians 2008

30 state ballots–and moving up!!

In November you can vote without settling for the best of the worst provided by the Democrats and Republicans. Mabye we really can remove their stranglehold of scheming and corruption that has put us in this awful mess we are in.

I like him. so there!

Your washed up Nader, god will you just shut up all ready, you have noting to give to anyone.

What does he stand for answer absolutely NOTHING wish he would blow away .
HGet lost Nader and take McLooser with yiou e is is as usefull as a log blocking a tunnel causing flooding .

GO Ralph. Tell them the truth. We love you.

Nader/Gonzalez 08

cheryl June 20th, 2008 12:33 pm ET

Who cares what Nader thinks, you did not win the nomination so please shut your face…

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What nomination did he need to win? He isn't part of any political party. His run is totally independent and he has no responsibility to anyone but the American public. Please educate yourself.

And to all the Nader bashers who are already posting and will continue to post. You have much in you lives, environment and government because of this man. Give him the respect he deserves.

VotePact

** Nader/Gonzalez 2008 **

Nader go away.

Let him stay. He is taking votes away from the Republicans.

This guy is such a tool.

BarackObama is refusing to take money from the government, opting instead to let the american people fund his campaign and this clown and mcwar have a problem with that? That is troublesome but only reinforces my belief that mcwar is crooked and now I see Nadar is too.

Ralph Nader is stupid for even running. The whole country is mad at him for taking Al Gores votes in Florida in 2000 and leaving us with Bush. In that election he got 2% of the vote. In 2004 he got .3%. He'll probably get .00000000000000001% this time. Ralph Nader is trying to do the same thing this year. Why doesn't he hurt a Republican for once?

Go Ralph, go!

Ralph Nader is a man of principle and values. I don't think he would attack Obama unless he was genuinely disappointed and discouraged in the way Obama is playing out his "supposed" change movement. Obama is looking more and more like a politician who will do anything to win–which is exactly what he accused Hillary Clinton of not so long ago.

GO AWAY, NADER! You're never going to be president! No one cares what you think! All you're going to do I mess up this country even more!

Look.

If you are one of the millions of people who don't check that box to give money to your party on your annual tax form (like myself), don't be a hypocrite in criticizing Obama for not taking the federal funds.

If you don't want to give your money annually for it, don't be surprised when politicians don't agree to take it.

Everyone who has a criticism of Obama for not taking public financing should be asked if they donated through the government to the political process.

I'm sure the honest results would show there is no national or true ground roots support for this system.

Ralph Nader ought to be ashamed of himself. He could do a lot of good work in this country, but, instead, he tries to thwart the Dems' chance of getting into office by throwing his hat in the ring. If he didn't do it in 2000, Gore would be president, and the country would be MUCH better off than we are after 8 years of George Bush, and many young Americans would still be alive today that instead have died in this senseless war.

Go some where please.

Why don't Nader dry up and blow away we are so tired of his nonsence .
What does he represent answer is NOTHING
He is as usefull as a log stuck in a tunnel .
Go away Nader out of our sight.

GOD,
I wish Nadar would just go away. If not for him Bush would never made it to the White House. He is a true spoiler. How many times has he run?

*eyeroll* This idiot. I'm glad he has enough money to gamble with the next four years, but I don't. Luckily Bob Barr will cancel him out this time.

NADER YOU ARE A JOKE

To Ralph Nader: Go away and leave us alone.

Nader's strategy is flawless. He'ss striking Obama at exactly the kind of unprincipled and sleazy politics of the Obama campaign that we true Democrats know to be wrong.

Don't drink the koolaid.

Go Ralph!

Puma PAC

Go away Nader- your fifteen minutes are up and the damage you did will NEVER be forgotten. GO AWAY!

Thank you CNN.

I encourage everyone to check out Nader's presidential website. You have more than 2 options this fall.

VotePact

** Nader/Gonzalez 2008 **

The blood of the past 8 years are on your hands. In trying to prove your "point" you are continuing to damage the country and its future.

Nader who?

Nader who?

Nader who?

As a fierce independent I'm disappointed by the actions of both Obama and McCain

Obama opted out because he believes he can raise more money than $85 limit
McCain wants Obama to lock himself in public finance because he knows he can’t compete with Obama in fund raising.

McCain also opted out of public financing even without FEC approval for the primaries, because he knew he needed more cash to keep his campaign alive.

Both Obama and McCain have zero credibility on when it comes to campaign finance.

SHAME UNTO EVERYONE WHO THINKS ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER.

-Obama seems to have broken his promise to preserve public financing.
-McCain broke FEC rules, when he got out of public financing of his primary election without FEC approval.

None of them is clean.

Stop the biased news broad cast.

For those who don't know, get this;

FOX : is only there to promote Republican agenda.
NBC : is only there to promote the agenda of Democrats
CNN and ABC are usually neutral

Wow, Nader is truly consistant...at being a pariah & a spoiler!!! I wish he would just go away! Who's gets happy about having only 6% of the national vote...it's a waste of time for him to be on anyone's ballot, and it's an even bigger waste to use gas money or energy to go to the polls to vote for this loser! Ugh! I vomit in my mouth at the thought of him! He'll never weasel his way into the whitehouse! Ugh!

Obama/Clinton '08

Him again?

Oh wow, they fixed it AS I was typing that. Still, it shouldn't have been a problem to begin with.

Nadar is a tree falling in the forest with no one around to hear...or care.

Do us a favor Ralph ! Go away ....

Ralphie...I applaud your enthusiasm...but didn't you already DO enough damage in 2000 with the same kind of campaign?

Why not throw IN with OBAMA and have a real SAY in the next administration, rather than trying to risk a McCain presidency? Yours could be a powerful voice in a new Democratic administration–one that will be HEARD by a whole new generation of voters seeking real change.

I'd rather you working this angle from the inside...because it's obvious from your SILENCE the last 8 years...being on the outside has done nothing for the causes you supposedly serve.

Thanks for nothing in 2000, Nader.

That's a picture of John McCain, not Ralph Nader. CNN, you really suck when it comes to news. Get your act together.

Go away Nader!

You're among the changes we need to make. You're part of the past and you already made a difference, that being part of the reason we got George Bush. In spite of your well intentioned efforts to protect us all, you actually contributed to making the world a lesser place.

Now it's time for you to step aside.

Haha. As if people care what Nader thinks >.>

Ah, it looks like we'll have the Nader Factor" again this year. How can a person say that Democrats are less involved than Republicans in dealing with big business? I guess when you're a closet Republican yourself you can... (NOTE: He ONLY mentions Obama.) Shoo fly go away....shoo fly go away....

Give me a break. If any of these clowns could raise half as much as Barack, they'd be doing the same thing.

Don't start your crap Nader!

Ralph Nader's a jerk too just like McCain. How in the world anyone would chose 'public financing' to fund their campaign over actual public financing which is of the people by the people and for the people, is absolutely mind boggling to me. Obama has built his campaign directly from the people, from small donors as well as large donors and I am glad he has chosen to continue to do this. They are all just jealous, Nader and McCain and wished the people would support them like they do Obama.

Ralph who? That old skelitoid needs to go back into the hole that he hides in for 3.5 yrs. This snake sticks his undercover republican head up just to help them. Obama has the money and now they want to tie his hands. I will send him money every payday so that I can be more of a part of the change that is going to come. The hate will come out for all to see just like it did with Bill and Hillary. The use of code words just to say that we are one of you but Obama is not is the way they do it. He is more of us all than John McSame or Ralph Who.
Obama08 with or without you.

I agree the Obama cult is a policy-shifting flip-flopper!

Among LIE after LIE after LIE!

Along with total disrespect for the Voters and Democracy.

McCain 08

Ralph who????

This dirt bag gave us 8 years of Bush. Now he is cracking Obama. Hit bottom, dig. – Nader

Wonder how many Republicans are funding Nader to strip votes off Obama.

"Ralph Nader stands for shifting the power from the big corporations back to the people."

What?!? Seriously, refusing public financing has given ALL of the power to Obama's supporters (the people)...we are the ones that will financially support Barack, not the PACs and interest groups public financing provides loopholes to. Barack is the ONLY major candidate to refuse PAC/lobbyist money and he has made the DNC implement that policy as well.

Maybe Nader is confused...isn’t McCain the one taking from Big Money? The suggestion that Obama is the only candidate to "flip-flop" is ridiculous. At least Obama has a rational explanation as to why he has changed his mind rather than simply deny that he did.

Nader is even more irrelevant...

Nader will be the best thing to happen for Obama. It will split off far more of McCain voters then it will Obama voters.

So I say, let him stay, keep him in. It will only help Obama. And by the time he's done, he'll have painted himself out of ever being taken serious again.

It's a win-win situation for the Democrats.

Hahahaha...

Nader....your 6% of the vote claim is gonna evaporate really soon. DOnt expect a single dollar for your crazy campaign.

Ralph Nader isn't "a presidential rival." He's one of the several third party candidates that usually show up on ballots and who all have about the same chance - zero. That's not to say he shouldn't run, but the only reason he gets press coverage and these other third party candidates don't is because of his history. If you're going to focus on Nader, be fair and focus on the other third party candidates, too. Not that reportage is ever necessarily "fair."

I'm Slick Hilly and I approve this message.

Ralph Nader, you share the blame during past elections that put Bush in the White House. Shut up already. That's all i need to say.

Even that "nut Case" nader can smell "CRAP' when he listens and see's what Obama says and does.

It is a shame that Ralph Nader, who was once very respected, has decided to let his ego direct his actions. He has absolutely destroyed his reputation by these ridiculous runs for President; I know of no one who pays any attention to Ralph Nader these days.

Its the public that funded the Obama Campaign, just regular folks, silly. JUST ANOTHER SPIN.

I wonder if there's any incentive from McCain and his campaign for Ralph Nader... HMMMMMMMMMMM... Typically the third party works against the Democratic nominee for republican incentive!!

GET THE HELL OUT NADER!!! YOU'RE OBSOLETE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, Nader looks an awful lot like McCain in this picture...

I have never fully understood Ralph Nader's campaigns. If he was defending the public so much, where has he been lately. While he may be still doing work as claimed, it is just not grabbing headlines.

He always seems to enter these races to solely be the spoiler. How that helps the public at large is what puzzles me. He stands almost no chance in winning, especially today. Most voters under 40 most likely need to scratch their head a second when they hear his name.

Who?

Nader? Is he still alive? I think Obama needs to brush Ralph off of his shoulders...

OH SHUT UP RALPH

Go away you senile old spoiler. You have done your country enough damage for 2 lifetimes. You know you can't win, you just want to screw up the election.
Begone!

Who gives a crap what Ralph Nader says? He is a has been, who had his 15 minutes and who desperately wants to be back in the spot light. Who even pays attention to Ralphie any more, but a few fanatics. What an idiot!

Nader, you're a fool.

Who cares what Nader thinks, you did not win the nomination so please shut your face...

He's getting his money from small donors. This is something Nader should support. I don't understand why Nader's taking issue with this.

Nader Who? Sit down and shut up. Another wretched old man who needs to be banned from the election process.