June 25, 2008
Posted: June 25th, 2008 03:35 PM ET

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What impact will Nader and Barr have this election season?
What impact will Nader and Barr have this election season?

(CNN) - There are two intriguing third party candidates running for president his year: Ralph Nader and Bob Barr. Both are well known here in Washington. But will they have an impact around the country if the election between Barack Obama and John McCain is close?

Nader, a long time populist and liberal consumer advocate, has been here before. He won more than 90,000 votes in the Florida election in 2000 and was widely accused of helping George W. Bush beat Al Gore by just more than 500 votes in the state. Gore’s supporters believe that he would have won the state and the election if Nader had stayed out. Nader denies that, insisting he took votes from both Democrats and Republicans.

Barr is a former Republican Congressman from Georgia and is now running on the Libertarian Party ticket. In the House of Representatives, he was always an outspoken conservative. He took the lead in initiating impeachment charges against President Bill Clinton.

Given that conservative track record, he is likely to take votes away from McCain, especially in Georgia where he is relatively well-known.

Obama’s supporters are hoping he does. They believe Georgia is fertile ground for the Democratic candidate, especially if the Democrats can register hundreds of thousands of new young and African American voters in the state.

So let’s see how Nader and Barr do this time around.

Filed under: Bob Barr • Ralph Nader • Wolf Blitzer


Scott   September 25th, 2008 6:42 pm ET

Barr and Nader?! There has been quite a movement online for Ron Paul. It would be nice to have a President who actually respects the Constitution for a change.

Michael   June 25th, 2008 8:39 pm ET

REZCO ?????????????

MD   June 25th, 2008 8:36 pm ET

Polls show that WITH these two idiots in the mix, Obama has a 15 point advantage over McCane.

All I can say is thank you guys for taking votes away from McCane.

Steve   June 25th, 2008 8:29 pm ET

Anyone can beat Mccain. All they have to do is get a copy of the Supreme Court decison Rogers vs. Bellei and all the citations that go with decision and look at State Department decison regarding the fact that the Panama Canal Zone was never Sovereign territory. You can get the same information by analyising the the first 2 Chapters of the Hays-Banau Varilla treaty.
It does not matter if mcCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone or on any military base throughout the world. He possess derivative citizenship and his position is no different than the million or so children of military families born on bases or military bases outside the United States. The problem dates back almost to the ratification of the Constitution.

Bill   June 25th, 2008 8:27 pm ET

Well, a third party or independent candidate can't win under current system, there are too many hurdles to clear, money being the biggest. Now, if we had a true campaign finance reform act, that limited each candidate to 50 million dollars (1 million per state), AND Eliminated PAC advertising during the general election period. THEN you might see some movement towards a level playing field, and you would increase the chances that viable independents and 3rd party candidates would have a chance.
At this point, no truly viable 3rd party candidate will run, because they know they can't win. Thus you have the politically irrelevent trying to play spoiler to make a name for themselves, either in history, or for consideration at a later date, or maybe because they are just bored.

Can we just be American?   June 25th, 2008 8:10 pm ET

I don't think Nadar will harm Obama but Barr – please take the McBush votes as we are looking for change!

Michael   June 25th, 2008 8:06 pm ET

WHAT ABOUTPROTECTING OUR BOARDERS SENDING THE ILEAGALS HOME!!!!! BREAK THE LAW DO THE PUNISHMENT......SEND THEM HOME!!!!

Tony, Miami   June 25th, 2008 8:03 pm ET

They are both trouble makers but in the 2008 election they can only help Barack Obama beat McCain a little more than necessary.

GO AWAY!!!!!   June 25th, 2008 8:03 pm ET

What impact will Nader and Barr have this election season?...................
THEY NEED TO GO TO THE HOUSE............2 IDIOTS!!!!!!!!

Michael   June 25th, 2008 8:02 pm ET

WHAT ABOUT EQUAL PAY FOR WOMAN !!!!!!!

Michael   June 25th, 2008 8:01 pm ET

WHAT ABOUT GAS PRICES??????

Michael   June 25th, 2008 8:00 pm ET

PUMA PAC> NO BAMA

Tim   June 25th, 2008 8:00 pm ET

"Given that conservative track record, he is likely to take votes away from McCain, especially in Georgia where he is relatively well-known."

Ignorant statement, Wolf. Nobody is taking votes away from anyone. People vote for who they want to vote for even if it doesn't happen to be someone from the two "major" parties. It's not a two horse race no matter how much you want it to be, and no matter how lopsided the field may be.

Earl   June 25th, 2008 7:59 pm ET

Not either of these 2 clowns

Michael   June 25th, 2008 7:58 pm ET

WHAT ABOUT REZCO AND OBAMA !!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!

Justice League   June 25th, 2008 7:54 pm ET

big sal, what on earth are you talking about? Bush is in the whitehouse, not Obama, and gas is at an all time high! How on earth do you argue that Obama in office would mean higher gas prices? More drilling isn't the answer, increased refining capacity and global trade networking is. The war clearly isn't working, as Bush's war for oil has backfired on himself. Many Americans realize this, and more will realize this soon enough. Your statements are delusional.

suz   June 25th, 2008 7:53 pm ET

One can only hope that some other qualified 3rd candidate can wage a winning battle in November.

Joe   June 25th, 2008 7:43 pm ET

Its nice to see this it will hopefully take away some mcbush votes

Willy   June 25th, 2008 7:36 pm ET

The DNC took the nomination away from Hillary just to get back in the W.H. They know OB has not a clue but they also know his good looks will fool all you "perky" women voters

Voter   June 25th, 2008 7:28 pm ET

This is a question the viewers should be asking CNN, not the other way around as Wolf would have us believe.

BIG SAL   June 25th, 2008 7:19 pm ET

Third party or not, when middle America finally realizes that voting for Obama means higher prices for oil, they will sway to McCain.

Obama plans to remove the troops prematurely out of Iraq which will create choas in that region. Oil will stop flowing from that country because of terrorists attacks. Oil will easily go up from there.

Also Obama is against drilling for oil here. America will soon see the many flaws in Obama's policies from the Patriot Act to Health care.

McCain will win in a landslide! IMHO opinion from an independent.

Rational1   June 25th, 2008 7:18 pm ET

Not the Nader plant again! By the way, in reference to Naders comments about Obama appealing to 'white guilt'; isn't Nader Lebanese-American? Are they considered white? If not, shouldn't he be appealing to the conditions of Lebanese-American? I know it sounds silly, by Nader started it.

Maree Starr   June 25th, 2008 7:17 pm ET

We are Asian, Hispanic and women will be on the 3 ballot instead of Obama. If he doesn't choose Hillary Clinton as VP. Say goodbye to his presidency as we are going to swing to other, Surprise is coming, please act now. Our votes are count now if Hillary Clinton is VP for Obama.

Teddy California   June 25th, 2008 7:17 pm ET

Do you mean if the third party candidate can win the Presidency? No. The two party system is too well established. Even President Teddy Roosevelt could not win as an independent after he served as a successful President for almost 8 years. But you can win significant popular votes. Ross Perot won 19% votes in 1992 and 5% votes in 1996, but zero delegates. There are over two thirds voters who will only vote Democrats or Republicans. They are very loyal to their parties. It is almost impossible for an independent candidate to win almost all other voters who are not loyal to either party.

BC FOR OBAMA   June 25th, 2008 7:17 pm ET

In Canada we have 4 to 6 parties competing in each election so we have many choices but it's still the Prime Minister usually comes from one of the two major parties, the Liberals or the Consevatives. Unfortunately we've only had one politician with the likes of Obama, young, visionary, charismatic and very smart and he turned out to be our best and most revered PM in our history, Pierre Trudeau. Around the world the USA is known to be gun loving, ignorant, uneducated, bullyish, racist, self centered, brash, opportunistic warmongers. Right
now you need Obama in there to make some changes and try to shed a new light on America that is desperately needed in these desolate times, so praise the lord that he's given you this agent of change.

Obama 2008-12

Democrats 4 Barr   June 25th, 2008 7:16 pm ET

please help Bob Barr's efforts even if you support Obama, donate and help, he stands for civil liberties and against the war.

d   June 25th, 2008 7:11 pm ET

Blitz.................you DIDN'T EVEN BRING UP CHUCK BALDWIN!!!! Shame, shame, shame. YES we need "other" candidates besides the Republicans and Democrats since they are NOT looking over this Country or its' Citizens. We need a candidate who will GET THIS COUNTRY BACK ON TRACK. To date I have seen none of this. Our Government leaders truly are an atrocity heading this Country towards true socialism and IF Obama is elected marxism. THAT IS NOT THE COUNTRY I WANT FOR MY KIDS OR GRAND KIDS.

Isabel Maione   June 25th, 2008 7:10 pm ET

I read recently that Bob Barr backed out of the election and will not be a candidate in November.

Linette Joshi   June 25th, 2008 7:07 pm ET

Hey stupid bloggers out there, you know, the ones who zone out on American Idol, CNN, Fox News, etc. Nothing will ever change in this country until we have a president who's not a career politician. As long as we have presidents who are politicians, we'll have corporations running this country, just the way they do today. Senator Obama may not be as seasoned as McCain, but he still plays the corporate game. Wake up, America! And when you do, you might want to Wikipedia "Ralph Nader" and just see what he's done for your safety. Ralph Nader fights for people's rights.

Loretta from California   June 25th, 2008 7:07 pm ET

Barr is just a Republican in disguise, and Nadar's desperately seeking attention.

DEMOCRATS UNITE!!!

Sarah   June 25th, 2008 7:07 pm ET

Ross Perot was close until he did a Hudini Act when his daughter got married.

But third party candidates are not taken seriously. I think I would lobby to have the same powers as the other two parties, and then go to the people. But they have to start on a federal level, which they will never do because they don't believe in the federal govt.

Never   June 25th, 2008 7:05 pm ET

Not Nader, after what he said about Barack.

ray   June 25th, 2008 6:57 pm ET

Blitzer and the Isreli lobby are having fits because one of their candidates is out of the race and the other is in trouble. It is obvious that CNN has given Blitzer a free hand to bash Senator Obama. Good bye objective journalism and hello media trying to trick the American voters into voting for McCain. If Americans are so stupid as to fall for this trick, then we will get exactly what we deserve. Just imagine Al Gore for the past 7 years instead of Bush.

Peter   June 25th, 2008 6:56 pm ET

HILLARY AS INDEPENDENT WOULD WIN.

Lee, Mays Landing New Jersey   June 25th, 2008 6:55 pm ET

Bob Barr is a legitimate conservative with core principles, not a pure opportunist and flip-flopper like John McCain. Since this election will be a loser for the national party, republicans would do well to vote for Bob Barr instead of John McCain.

In McCain's campaign commercials playing here, he is now preteding to be a "democrat lite" with pretentions that he is more of an envionmentalist than Obama etc. No one will believe that!!! Barr is going back to original Goldwater style republicanism and is more authentic as a real conservative.

The republican party may need to lose with McCain this time just to purify itself.

Steve   June 25th, 2008 6:47 pm ET

Clinton, pro-life, pro-gun, pro-civil liberties Democrats for Barr 08!

Joe   June 25th, 2008 6:43 pm ET

I really hope you Obama supporters get your way. I will spend the next four years on a nice Mediterranean island spending my oil profits. Then after Obama has ruined the country and all of you are running around wailing, gnashing your teeth, and rending your garments we, the sane people, may come back and rescue you from the brink. Or we might just let you wander in the wilderness for an additional four years until you beg us to forgive you for your foolishness. Signed, Rich white guys

2012   June 25th, 2008 6:42 pm ET

A lot of people here obviously don't really know who Ralph Nader is...lol! He knows he can't win. He's never believed he could win. He does this for YOU, people, to promote issues that are genuinely important to every one of you and every future generation.

A few of his credits:

Freedom of Information Act
Safe Drinking Water Act
Occupational Health and Safety Administration
Environmental Protection Administration

And a host of things with the words "Equality" and "Justice" in the titles!

Do some research on the man and his accomplishments before badmouthing the man. He's a far better American than any of you.

Women In California For Obama   June 25th, 2008 6:40 pm ET

Go Barr! How can ANYONE vote for that parasite Nader? At least Obama, Hillary and McCain get out and work for their votes. All he does is sit back and wait on left-over, disgruntled and unstable people. What a pathetic person.

Eddy   June 25th, 2008 6:36 pm ET

If all those Hillary gals who can't vote for Obama were looking for a candidate close to Clinton's own position, they should be advocating a vote for Nader, not McCain. Nader's positions are pretty close to Clinton's on most key issues. If they go on advocating a vote for McCain, then this outside observer at least is persuaded that they're not really Hillary supporters at all, but Republican wolves in sheep's bleatings.

Bonnie   June 25th, 2008 6:34 pm ET

The first shall be last, and the last shall be first! Get ready.

Independent Voter   June 25th, 2008 6:33 pm ET

Nader is speaking the truth. That's why you're all appalled. The Emperor has no clothes. Are you all so silly as to believe Obama's not playing on white guilt in America of all places? Where do YOU live???

And black voters, don't hold your breath for help with issues facing urban America and YOU. You all were thrown under the bus all through the primaries, and you fell for it! Bill Clinton was the best thing that ever happened to you, as you will learn starting in January, 2009.

Nader doesn't expect to be elected. Unlike Obama, Ralph has nothing to lose here, that's why he can afford to speak truth. Don't forget you're only hearing from rabid party supporters until November.

montag   June 25th, 2008 6:32 pm ET

I've watched Ralph Nader closely over the last few months and learned much about him. I also had the distinct pleasure of hearing him speak in Portland, Oregon thlast month. Ralph Nader is a truly great man and a great American. He has spent his entire life working tirelessly and selflessly to improve the lives of every American.

Do you like having clean air to breathe and clean water to drink? Thank Ralph Nader.

Do you like having safer automobiles, food and medicines?
Thank Ralph Nader.

Do you like being employed in safer work environments?
Thank Ralph Nader.

He is one of the few remaining honest men in the public arena, and when he's gone we'll be a lesser nation for it.

Insist, no – demand that Nader, Barr, and McKinney be given a voice in the debates and in the corporate-controlled media. Demand that they be allowed on the ballots of every state in this country. Our democracy can only survive if more voices are heard and we end this corrupt Republican/Democrat duopoly.

Independent Voter   June 25th, 2008 6:30 pm ET

Nader is speaking the truth. That's why you're all appalled. The Emperor has no clothes. Are you all so silly as to believe Obama's not playing on white guilt in America of all places? Where do YOU live???

And black voters, don't hold your breath for help with issues facing urban America and YOU. You all were thrown under the bus all through the primaries, and you fell for it! Bill Clinton was the best thing that ever happened to you, as you will learn starting in January, 2009.

amt, Fresno,CA   June 25th, 2008 6:23 pm ET

Nader, you've gotta be kidding!! As a consumer advocate you did allot of good, BUT why are you always trying to be Pres, running in every election?? It's like you'r a joke, ie: no brainer. You just distract from the real candidate. & actually try to do damage what is your point??? Drop Out you can't win!

CLINTON 08 VP   June 25th, 2008 6:23 pm ET

MAYBE THEY SHOULD START DRILLING ON MCCAIN'S HEAD TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY BRAINS INSIDE. HIM, THE SAME AS HIS DADDY BUSH WHOSE ONE OF HIS MAIN FOCUS WAS ON IRAQ'S OIL, IS NOW LOOKING FOR NEW OIL FINDINGS (IN THE MEXICAN GULF) AND FOR ALTERNATIVE WAYS FOR ENERGY WHICH ONLY MAKES US BELIEVE THAT HIM, DADDY BUSH, AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY CAN'T CONTROL THEIR GREED TO TRY TO FILL THEIR OWN POCKETS IN THE END...

UNITED WE ARE STRONGER

OBAMA (P) & CLINTON (VP) 2008-2014

NO TO MR. BUSH II (MCCAIN), MR. WAR, MR. KILL, MR. NO BRAINS...

Sylvia   June 25th, 2008 6:22 pm ET

Whether you agree with the politics of these candidates or not, why not let them into the debates and see how they do? My impression is that people are so jaded with the political system and thirsty for something new that they would welcome it. I think it would be quite fascinating to watch and I hope CNN does it!

Eugene   June 25th, 2008 6:21 pm ET

Dear Ralph, Somewhere there is a dangerous antique, unsafe Corvair that needs your attention. Go check it out while the rest of the country proceeds with electing a leader for everyone.

Ric   June 25th, 2008 6:19 pm ET

Clinton Democrats for Mc Cain '08!!!

Ian   June 25th, 2008 6:14 pm ET

How about a debate hosted by Ron Paul? Let's see Obama or McCain squirm when asked about the looming $30 trillion social security crisis.

"Yes, but getting back to my idea of RE-inventing the electric car...."

Republican for Barr   June 25th, 2008 6:11 pm ET

The Republican Party of today is not the Republican Party of 30 years ago – as a matter of fact, it is the complete opposite.

My vote is going to Barr this year – he's a real conservative.

Conservatives for Barr in '08!

frank Honolulu HI   June 25th, 2008 6:07 pm ET

Ralph Nader is a Republican plant. His comments should not be noted.
He holds very little respect from anyone. Why do you CNN folks cater to him?

Alvaro   June 25th, 2008 6:07 pm ET

based on some of the comments here it looks like people (especially Obama supporters) don't know their history.

1) The last third party presidential candidate to win the White House was Abraham Lincoln (the main parties were Whigs and Democrats- the Republican were technically a minor paty back then).

2) Bill Clinton never won a simple majority of the vote but hirstircally speaking that didn't havppen for JFK nor Jimmy Carter. Only Reagen and Nixon managed to do so. So the argument of spoiler is silly.

3) Finally in agreement with some Hillary supporters- I think that Nader is a way better alternative than McCain. You don't have to sell your values to the devil to make a statement.

Tom, St. Paul   June 25th, 2008 6:07 pm ET

I used to have respect for the Libertarian Party–their serious approach as a third party, not their political philosophy. But to run this Barr character for the presdency has evaporated that respect for me. Barr's just a recycled Gingrichian, prudish, hippocritical, Contractor for America.

Justin from West Haven, CT   June 25th, 2008 6:05 pm ET

I love how people blame Nader for Bush, yet more Democrats voted for Bush than Nader. What idiots.

Brian   June 25th, 2008 6:05 pm ET

Wait a minute... IT'S THE SAME GUY IN DISGUISE!

Thank you CNN for breaking this story.

From a True Democrat   June 25th, 2008 6:02 pm ET

This topic matters not!! Obama will still win this November.

Obama 08

Vern   June 25th, 2008 6:01 pm ET

No, a third party will not break through, at least not with these 2 clowns.

paul   June 25th, 2008 6:01 pm ET

I believe this country of the "FREE" and the brave should allow and rejoice over 3 parties. It is nothing new in our history and we should see it grow. Every other country in the world has more than 2 main political parties and they share power.

Its 2008 and this is a stupid question that we should not be asking the reverse of whether we need but HOW do we grow more parties to have more people involved.

But Nader has made a good point in a previous article ... Obama is half black/african american. How do we talk about being a country that wants to unite but we allow the fact that he is also WHITE to be publicly erased so that in history it will be a trivia question that will stump generations. And I could go on and on about what he needs to do for both blacks and white, and hispanics and asians.

aware   June 25th, 2008 6:00 pm ET

Obama is Dr. No and Professor Dolittle all rolled into one. He also confuses universalism with freedom of religion. Americans don't want to change their identity. They just want to get rid of ruthless and clueless politicians like Obama!

So, I think the Conservatives will be invigorated by Obama's "religion" faux pas to vote for McCain along with many Independents and disgusted Democrats. Nader may also help McCain but I don't think mean-mouthed Barr will gain much traction.

2012   June 25th, 2008 6:00 pm ET

c. bailey June 25th, 2008 5:05 pm ET

The last independent president was????

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George Washington. There were no political parties prior to 1792.

Any other questions from the non-students of history peanut gallery?

The US abolishes century old clinton dynasty   June 25th, 2008 5:57 pm ET

Blitzer, like
Nader , Hillary, Bill, and McBush, are so old and outdated, what kind of quetsion is this???

now he will announce billary's new independent debt party..

oh CNN , the worst news network..

it is like People Magazine

ZKY   June 25th, 2008 5:52 pm ET

Just look at how laughable those obama cultists' wishful thinking about Barr taking Mccain's votes but not Nader taking Obama's votes is.

I used to be a Democrat   June 25th, 2008 5:48 pm ET

Barr will also take away votes from Obama. Former Democrats like myself are fed up with the party and we want liberty back in our lives and government off our back.

Vote against the Status Quo. Vote against the Dems and the GOP!

Third parties, all the way...

Darth Vadik, CA   June 25th, 2008 5:46 pm ET

Wasted vote,
Unless your a Conservative, please vote for Bob Barr,
after what Borat did to him.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Frank   June 25th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

Barr will probably have an effect if this attention keeps up (which I want it to so Obama have an easier time getting in to the white house)

Vote Nader   June 25th, 2008 5:43 pm ET

kim hussein taylor portland, oregon June 25th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

i USED TO have a lot of respect for nader b/c of his great work on consumer issues. but his presidential campaigns have really turned me off.

he claims he does it for serious reasons like pointing out the flaws of our presidential elections (which we already know about), but then we hear NOTHING from him on these oh-so-important issues in the 4 years between elections.

with the all the dangers we face today, thanks to the republicans and their deregulation, we DESPERATELY need you in the consumer advocacy arena, so get out of politics and do what you're really good at!!!!!!!!!

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Funny thing about that. Ralph Nader has been shut out of advocating by your wonderful Democrats. Since 2000, he has met only a handful of times with Congress, because they don't want him. They are too bitter about 90,000 people thinking Ralph Nader was more qualified to be president than the Vice President was. So they blame him, and not their message which was what was at fault.

VotePact

** Nader/Gonzalez 2008 **

Long Time Democrat   June 25th, 2008 5:40 pm ET

It's time for a party to evolve that is more representative of the true Democatic ideals. This will not happen for this election, but it would not surprise me to see this happen. As Ben from Portland stated, we need to work on state and local first. After the complete betrayal of Pelosi, Reid and other "party leadership???" and the satement from Obama that it is his party now. !!!!! thiis Democrat who has been voting for 40 + years is sitting this one out. I'll leave you first timers, voters for the shorthaul and pseudo democrats to make the decision and will say be careful what you wish for.

Pat Riot   June 25th, 2008 5:39 pm ET

Already marginalizing the non corporate candidates ehh CNN? The spin machine continues. Don't even grant them the title of Main Stream Media. This is the Old Media. Welcome to the internet...don't regulate it!

Michael   June 25th, 2008 5:38 pm ET

want to know more about Obama ties with Rezco and the boarded up buildings in the innercities of IL. ??? Also answers about the vacant lot that Rezco's wife owens next to Obamas home. Is this a raccist comment?? What are the facts?? Come on people your smarter than this demand answers??
M.C.T.

Tom   June 25th, 2008 5:37 pm ET

Yes, if it's Hillary Clinton with Bloomberg as veep. Or the general as veep. Or Evan Bayh as veep. You get the drift?

TRUTH   June 25th, 2008 5:37 pm ET

Regarding Georgia: Obama got 700,366 votes and was the top vote getter for the Dems. McCain only got 303,639 and was not a top vote getter for the Republicans and this was an OPEN primary.

Obama will do just....fine.... in Georgia.

Erika, KS   June 25th, 2008 5:36 pm ET

Well, a third party should break through, ,but it won't be these two.

Coffin Builder   June 25th, 2008 5:36 pm ET

I hear Nader sealed his coffin today. LOL, I also hear he got it at a great price–free publicity.

Obama 08

Never Nader   June 25th, 2008 5:34 pm ET

Are you kidding me? Ralph Nader–NEVER. He needs to apologize to Barack. His 3% is going to go down to .5%.

Obamabound for Victory 08

Ladybug   June 25th, 2008 5:32 pm ET

Why not Hillary as an Independant.

That would be change for the better!!!

Bam!   June 25th, 2008 5:32 pm ET

While Barr may be an alternative for Repugs, Nader is not EVEN a choice for dog catcher!!

bruce FORMER REPUBLICAN FROM MA.   June 25th, 2008 5:31 pm ET

Nadar must need a few new suits...

Gene   June 25th, 2008 5:30 pm ET

These two will do wonders for Obama.. since they're mostly going to take votes away from McCain... Hey.. Maybe you PUMA morons might stand behind one of these guys. After all... if you're gonna slap your beloved supported Hillary in the face by doing exactly the opposite of what she wants.... you might as well do it indirectly instead of voting for McCain.

Tammy - KCMO   June 25th, 2008 5:27 pm ET

Not this one. Hopefully as some point there will be a 3rd party candidate that is good enough to have a chance at winning.

California Gold   June 25th, 2008 5:26 pm ET

A third party candidate would only hurt McCain.

More people are streaming to the Obama campaign. Die hard Republicans, those who would rather stick needles in their eyes than vote for a Democrat, would probably vote for a 3rd party candidate rather than vote for McCain.

But a 3rd party candidate would not break through Obama's lead. Obama has too much momentum.

Nader is nothing more than a perennial Presidential candidate.

Belle   June 25th, 2008 5:22 pm ET

Only if that 3rd Party candidate was Independent and named Hillary R. Clinton

yande   June 25th, 2008 5:22 pm ET

someone needs to pour cocoanut water on naders head to wash out all the madness in his celeberum. His ajoker and shouldnt be given any spotlight

Vote Nader   June 25th, 2008 5:20 pm ET

Well, CNN, will you have Mr. Nader, Rep. Barr and Ms. McKinney participate in your debates? If so, I bet each of them will collectively bust through.

The two party system sucks.

VotePact

** Nader/Gonzalez 2008 **

Sylvia Johnsen   June 25th, 2008 5:20 pm ET

They said us Clinton woman would go for McCain, and I must say Nadar is more of an alternative. He's a bit grey and grouchy, but policy wize he's the man I look for.

Ben - Portland   June 25th, 2008 5:19 pm ET

No "third" party will break through at the presidential level. Minor parties should focus their efforts on state and local seats, then move up to US Senate and House elections.

The true benefit of these two running is that they'll remove the pandering to the extremes of the parties and allow the greater bell curve to decide the election.

yande   June 25th, 2008 5:18 pm ET

mathew you sound like a born racist, supporting the very discrimanating comments by nader, maybe he's trying to get to the spotlight with racially charged comments, but certainly he has no good interest for the American people, he's here to get some hard earned funraising cash for retirement vacations, what a hypocrite. America is moving forward whether you like it or not, blacks,whites, latinos ,asians and native americans are coming together to share on their most profound commonality as one human race, one people, nation, and one love for america that has given so much to them.I know men like louu dobb may still be very blind to the facts just as you are.

me in dc   June 25th, 2008 5:17 pm ET

I'm surprised you even mentioned the names of Nadar and Barr. I haven't heard a word about Nadar since he declared. I think a third party candidate should be considered, but the MSM makes that impossible.

Justin, PA   June 25th, 2008 5:17 pm ET

I supported Nader in '04. I support Obama in '08. Had my state been a close state in '04 I would have voted for Kerry but since I knew it was firmly blue I voted for Nader because some of his policies were some I thought the democratic party should adopt. Since then the democrats have adopted similar legislation and is much different then it was even just 4 years ago. I am really dissapointed Nader is running this time because I think Obama and him can agree on a lot of things. I think Nader should focus on more realistic options like the senate or something.

Rick FL   June 25th, 2008 5:15 pm ET

Many conservatives are not happy with McCain as their candidate. Bob Barr gives them another alternative this year.

Nader has already had his runs, decreasing to 0.3% of the votes in 2004. I would tend to guess he will continue to decline in the fall.

Sarah, Northern Colorado   June 25th, 2008 5:07 pm ET

Vote Nader! Because we want a man in our highest office who is innately and completely unapologetic for how the last 8 years has turned out!

Give me a freaking break...

c. bailey   June 25th, 2008 5:05 pm ET

The last independent president was????

Silence Dogood   June 25th, 2008 4:58 pm ET

It is time for a third party. Given the choice between the "Same Policy War Guy" and the "Empty Lying Victim Preppy", I would love to see some breakthrough of alternative parties.

Kitty, Denver, CO.   June 25th, 2008 4:57 pm ET

Good Lord I hope not. Two going at it is more than enough–Thank you very much!

NORA, FLORIDA   June 25th, 2008 4:57 pm ET

Someone lend me their hands so that I have enough to slap the hell out of Nadar with an astounding sound!!!

Al in Dallas   June 25th, 2008 4:54 pm ET

Nader is a non-event; Barr, on the other hand could drain some McCain supporters, especially in the south. If he does, best color most of the south BLUE, not RED!

Fed up with the lies   June 25th, 2008 4:54 pm ET

Nader and Barr will not have a measureable effect on the election. Sen. McCain will be soundly defeated due to his ties to the Bush administration, lack of charisma, and just not being able to make up his mind which side of an issue he stands on. I believe we have a new standard bearer of the "flip flop" award in Sen. McCain.

Bob Indianapolis, IN   June 25th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

If your third party doesn't consist of losers and right-wing tools, you might have a shot

Jason, Texas   June 25th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

Third Parties would do better if they put up viable candidates. So far, no candidate from a third party should be elected in the first place. I do think they ought to get more airtime from the media. CNN, etc ought to get them into the mix whenever there is a Dem/Rep debate, etc. It's sad that our country is not given more options in this regard and it's controlled by the money hungry corporate media moguls.

Ken in NM   June 25th, 2008 4:50 pm ET

All of you PUMA PAC people as silly and sad. You have to be republicans or should be.

Why?   June 25th, 2008 4:49 pm ET

This man is not even relevant. I'll log back in when you post some real news.

John Campbell   June 25th, 2008 4:47 pm ET

I t hink McCain is going down in flames. We're talking Dukakis/Mondale territory. Once Republican voters realize and accept this, they will no longer feel compelled to vote the lessor of two evils.

At that point many conservatives who are upset with McCain over amnesty, campaign finance reform, 2nd ammendment abuses, etc... will move over to Barr.

I'm not predicting he can win the presidency, but I do think he can break through the 2 party duopoly and prove that the Libertarian Party is a viable party. This will be a tremendous benefit long term in attracting candidates and votes to the LP.

Hopefully this will be the beginning of the end of the GOP. The party that brought us illegal wire taps, extraordinary renditions, Abu Graib, Gitmo, torture, suspension of Habeus Corpus, uranium yellow cake from Niger, aluminum tubes, mobile iraqi weapons labs, and the biggest growth in government spending since LBJ definitely deserves to go the way of the Whigs.

Stella M. Rice, Carbondale, Il 63903   June 25th, 2008 4:47 pm ET

Nader is right"

KMAN   June 25th, 2008 4:46 pm ET

Ralph is simply LOST in the 21ST CENTURY ... he never quite achieved relevance beyond his 1960’s crusade against the Corvair!

And ... Bob who???

Vik   June 25th, 2008 4:46 pm ET

Nadar has no chance of ever winning, so what's he in it for? Makes me wonder if it's just an ego trip? Seems like a lot of wasted time and effort to prove noting, but that there should be a thrid party. Sometimes you have to just vote for what's the closest thing to where you believe this country should be headed and not all this nonsense. Nadar is becoming a major disappointment.

Ken in NM   June 25th, 2008 4:45 pm ET

Umm no but Barr will sure help Obama win by an even wider margin.

mayahh   June 25th, 2008 4:45 pm ET

A little piece of fame for HISTORY, they both are that HISTORY OBAMA 08

Frank, Missouri   June 25th, 2008 4:43 pm ET

Nader is just a habitual candidate .. he uses that as a PR platform every four years. He is far from being a viable alternative. If somebody like Obama would open a third party you could seriously toss things upside down, but Nader (or Barr) are just the vents for voters who just cannot vote for either Obama or McCain. Fair enough but not relevant.

Shawna   June 25th, 2008 4:43 pm ET

Obama told supporters brace yourselves for the racial overtones and racial attacks. The media and pundits tried to say that he was playing the race card...and today here is Nader saying Obama is talking white as opposed to talking like a black person should, or talking about black issues. The last time I checked whites also live in the inner cities. Sounds like Obama and his staff have a good sense of predicting what will happen within this race, just like Iraq, afganistan, the economy, gas tax holiday gimmicks, and offshore drilling.

What?   June 25th, 2008 4:43 pm ET

Ron Paul is the only candidate out of the bunch that's fit to run this country. Point blank!

Doris   June 25th, 2008 4:43 pm ET

I|,m for Mc
cain I do not want socialized medicene; You wait for a heart operation and before you are in linefor yours you die. I want 15|% tax on stocks sold; |I invested after I retired and so did many others who have a Social Security of $1,300 a month less deductions. Vote for MCain

jenn   June 25th, 2008 4:43 pm ET

Ignorance is the word that comes to mind when I read all this name calling against the third party candidates. Too many American citizens today don't take the time to research the facts. Our two party system of governing has NOT done us well. I hope the voting public gets to really know each candidate including the independents, without prejudice.
So much is riding on getting it right this time around.

matthew in san francisco   June 25th, 2008 4:42 pm ET

but what about Gonzalez, Nader's running mate?

Schalaine Ellisor   June 25th, 2008 4:42 pm ET

GoBarr. Go Nader. Please get an effective campaign and go for it!! Every vote you get is one less for McCain. You won't hurt Obama. His supporters are too smart to fall for your lines of BS. Obama stands for change. I don't know about you, but I feel our country should be sailing into the 21st century instead of falling further and further behind. In order to do that, we need a leader with a true vision for the futher. Not someone who has only come up with ridiculous gimmicks.

Heather   June 25th, 2008 4:41 pm ET

Nader's a has-been that just committed political suicide. He will NEVER be president; instead, his consolation prize is a year's supply of Rice-a-Roni (the San Francisco treat) and a date with Geraldine Ferraro.

matthew in san francisco   June 25th, 2008 4:39 pm ET

I agree with Nader when I hear what he said about Obama in context. It's true, he is "speaking White." I like how this is first time in a long time we hear anything about "Third Party Candidates." It shows a real bias.

I also think it's pretty funny to blame someone else for your loss in a contest. "If only there were no one else to compete against, he would have won." Give me a break.

atypical   June 25th, 2008 4:39 pm ET

Nadar and Obama not even close to being in the same league.
Nadar is looking for another 15 minutes of fame, I imagine.

Jeff - Illinois   June 25th, 2008 4:39 pm ET

Any advantage against McCain in those states where the red light of despair is beginning to flicker out and the blue light of renewal and true American values is finally showing itself is more than welcome!

Even some of the so-called "red-states" now have enough people who can see the truth through the fear and deception of the Republican party to go Blue.

Cast your vote as a Citizen of the United States of America, not as a mindless drone casting votes to benefit corporations at the expense of individuals!

BARACK OBAMA 2008!!!

Willy   June 25th, 2008 4:39 pm ET

I hope so. With 2 democrats running for the same job we need something fresh.

Lynn, Missouri   June 25th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

George Carlin once said that with all the important things, we only get two choices and with the unimportant things we get multiple choices and he gave examples. We should always have more choices.

A Realist   June 25th, 2008 4:36 pm ET

In the words of Jonh McEnroe ....

'YOU CAN NOT BE SERIOUS !"

These guys must only be in it to sell their book later, right?

Caycee, Pearl City Hawaii   June 25th, 2008 4:36 pm ET

Not with these two.

ny   June 25th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

NObama '08 PERIOD.
I wonder when CNN will fire Blitz for misleading voters towards Obama....

Bill   June 25th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

Nader has been running for president for as long as I've been alive I think. He never gets anywhere. He never will. He just likes to be a pain in the butt.

Phil Newton Murphy, Oregon   June 25th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

Nader is nuts and Barr is too truthful for his own good.

But a little truth never hurt anyone.

James Carville   June 25th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

Why do both Nader and Barr look like criminals in their headshots?

Nader scares me. He thinks writing a book about car safety back in 1966 qualifies him to be President of the United States.

Talk about lack of experience....

Lynn, Missouri   June 25th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

I like the idea of multiple choices, but it will never happen here. Too bad.

w l brown   June 25th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

don't matter, i "WILL" vote McCain in the election!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kingsley   June 25th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

WHY HAS CNN IGNORE THE COVERAGE OF CHARLIE BLACK'S COMMENT REGARDS TO TERROR ON AMERICAN SOIL WHEN THEY COVERED REV WRIGHT FOR A MONTH STRAIGHT.

STOP PROVING TO US THE MEDIA HAVE A VIP SEAT ON THE McWAR EXPRESS. NO ONE CARE ABOUT NADAR TRYING TO INJECT HIMSELF IN THE NEWS WITH A RACIAL COMMENT.

AND I HOPE I DONT HEAR ANYTHING ELSE ON DODSON

obama=underhanded liar   June 25th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

Two points: Obama democrats are stupid and obama = the beginning of the end of this country.

kim hussein taylor portland, oregon   June 25th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

barr and nader will take votes from McCON, not obama.

Michael   June 25th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

I want to know more about Obama ties with Rezco and the boarded up buildings in the innercities of IL. ??? Also answers about the vacant lot that Rezco's wife owens next to Obamas home. Is this a raccist comment?? What are the facts?? Come on people your smarter than this demand answers??
M.C.T.

Really?   June 25th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

Yes, a third party can compete, perhaps even win (particularly this year), but not with either of these egotistical, self-centered clowns.

kim hussein taylor portland, oregon   June 25th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

i USED TO have a lot of respect for nader b/c of his great work on consumer issues. but his presidential campaigns have really turned me off.

he claims he does it for serious reasons like pointing out the flaws of our presidential elections (which we already know about), but then we hear NOTHING from him on these oh-so-important issues in the 4 years between elections.

with the all the dangers we face today, thanks to the republicans and their deregulation, we DESPERATELY need you in the consumer advocacy arena, so get out of politics and do what you're really good at!!!!!!!!!

Cynthia   June 25th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

Let's hope Bob Barr does extremely well. Nader, on the other hand, is riding in the same boat with Dobson. He must be a Republican masquerading as a Libertarian or whatever it is he is running as.

Pat in Cali   June 25th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

To all Hillary Democrats for McCain:

You're advertising that you don't want McCain when you label yourself that way. You show us that McCain is not your choice for president.

That makes you look like a flip-flopper.

A Nightingale Sings in Berkley Square   June 25th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

Go Mac Go. You are the Man. By the way here is what Ralphie is saying according to a story on CNN.

Isn't Obama a stand up comedian? Laughing now, while I'll be crying later when he puts through his tax and spend plans.

. "Whether that will make any difference, I don't know. Nader said, "I haven't heard (obama) have a strong crackdown on economic exploitation in the ghettos. Payday loans, predatory lending, asbestos, lead.

What's keeping him from doing that? Is it because he wants to talk white? He doesn't want to appear like Jesse Jackson? We'll see all that play out in the next few months and if he gets elected afterwards."

Yes, I am worried that Obama will be the lottery ticket to the "welfare queens."

Obama is the poster boy for the Tax and spend — Tax and spend crowd. I think he is a serial quitter as well. Nice gloves by the way.

elect Obama-help   June 25th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

Gallup today shows a dead tie
45/45.
Can never be too confident that these other parties cannot turn an election.
They know they have no chance. They are not stupid.
That is no reason to Discount their candidacy.

Steve Dasbach   June 25th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

Thank goodness Bob Barr is running. Unlike Obama and McCain, Barr can be counted on to shrink the bloated federal goverment, restore our civil liberties, and bring our troops home.

JerrySpoor   June 25th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

Ralph Nader may have served a political purpose at one time; maybe not. At this point in time his purpose is inappropriate.

Giving him a second thought is inapropriate.

roger   June 25th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

this guys lost it.

glenn   June 25th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

Would love to see a vivable third party ...Then maybe the other two parties would give us real choices... neither off these two are going to win or make a differece...thier must be another Ross Perot like canidate out thier somewhere... Please someone give us a alternative ...

Terry in El Paso, TX   June 25th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

Libertarians are already winding up with their usual message. "When people hear what Barr has to say, he will blow the opposition away! He is the only candidate talkin sense, and when voters realize that..."

Pipe dreams, yes, but those who smoke the pipe of Libertarianism are hallucinatory. We all know what Libertarianism is. There is no instance in world history of it ever having been tried, much less succeeding. It is the fantasy of about 5% of the population.

Johnny McBUSH   June 25th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

Of Course not.................................

Because the Media like CNN,Fox,MSNBC and others will shut the air time down. The same way they did Dr Paul.

Everyone knows that is what they did, it is public knowledge now.

Of course Wolf Blitzer or Lou Dobbs or any of the other talking media heads REFUSE to talk about the Media's role in shutting certain people down.

It is common knowledge now, just like Fox is a republicn rag network owned by Mr Builderberg himself Rupert I am a crook Murdoch.

Believe none of these talking heads on anything they report

Matt--NE   June 25th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

I think a third party will most likely hurt Obama.

People like me formerly from the Democratic Party are looking for a viable candidate, and Obama is certainly not it.

Vig   June 25th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

Hillary Clinton can break through either as an independent or as a write-in candidate on your November ballot. We don't need more inflation in the White House – Obama is mostly air, Hillary is substance.

Glenn   June 25th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

Nader quote on Obama: "I mean, first of all, the number one thing that a black American politician aspiring to the presidency should be is to candidly describe the plight of the poor, especially in the inner cities and the rural areas, and have a very detailed platform about how the poor is going to be defended by the law, is going to be protected by the law, and is going to be liberated by the law," he said. "Haven't heard a thing." What a bunch of racial prejudice! What about a white American politician, say like yourself Nader, why wouldn't you are McCain or Barr make a similar statement. Nader has gone well beyond his limitations. Some call him a spoiler...what a joke!

Vic   June 25th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

I have no use for Ralph Nader who, without doubt, was responsible for George Bush succeeding to the presidency. And the reason I am not a supporter for Barack Obama has nothing to do with his being a black man of what Ralph Nader said about him. I am not supporting Obama for the same reason I was very much against George Bush because the man was simply not qualified for the office, and the last eight years have proved that to be true. Now, for those same reasons, I cannot support Barack Obama. We just simply cannot afford to have such inexperience in charge of running the most powerful country in the world. Nothing personal here.

Independent Voter   June 25th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

What a silly question! Anyone would think you press people report the news instead of deciding for us what news we will hear. This is a perfect example. Today is the very first time you even mentioned Nader.

Kathy   June 25th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

Nader has always stood up for what he believes in, regardless of the consequence. I was very disappointed that part of the reason Gore lost was because of votes for Nader, but again, people are free in this country to vote for whom they want based on principal. I suppose if Gore ran a better campaign, the Nader factor would have been a wash. I do agree though, that this country truly needs a third party choice, and one that is valid with potential. The two party system I feel continues to fail the America people. I for one, am tired of having to go to the polls and hold my nose when I select a presidential candidate because I really don't favor the two main choices.
Also, I would say, that as a Clinton supporter, I would love to see her be able to run as an independent. I felt she represented values of both parties. She was in my opinion a middle of the road candidate that was not invasive to principal. But that is neither here nor there.
This year, I will cast my vote for McCain, but I am not a hugh fan. I will NOT however vote for Obama. I feel him to be ill-qualified for the office, and I do not trust his judgement.
This country has a long way to go when it comes to our political choices. The two party system is jammed packed with money and influence, thus not allowing for a better choice-for shame.

Peter E   June 25th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

I would hope so... I want Ron Paul to run as an independent. Vote change you can TRUST!

Matt: honestly   June 25th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

Puma Pac hear me roarrrrrrrrr!!!!! hahahahahahaha

Denise   June 25th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

As George Washington said, political parties are formed by "unwise men." Americans have become so dense that they confuse presidentlal politics with sport and will vote for the candidate on their team at all costs. Neither McCain nor Obama will bring any "change" to Washington. Neither man will end the war; one doesn't want to and the other doesn't know how. Republicans don't think McCain is conservative enough while Democrats just pulled off what is possibly the dumbest stunt in American politics; insulting and offending half their voters who supported another candidate in the primary.

In the meantime, the mainstream media will determine who they want to win with their dramatic reads on meaningless polls in an effort to sway voters toward the "inevitable winner."

For those of us with independent minds, this has all been quite amusing. But we all lose in November.

William   June 25th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Dear Ralph,

Thanks for seat belts but I actually like the Corvair. Good luck with your impossible run for the white house. See you again in 2012!

CW4Barak   June 25th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

Hey "we've got a great shot in GA" this is the poll:
Gallup Daily: Obama, McCain Tied at 45% NEW June 25, 2008
Barack Obama and John McCain, who have been closely matched in Gallup Poll Daily tracking for the last week, are now even at 45% each.

By next week it will be Obama out front again....have no fear!

Republican for Obama   June 25th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

If you are a true Republican, you will vote Barr.
If you are truely ill-informed, you will vote Nader.
If you are truely bitter, you will vote Clinton.
If you truely love war, you will vote McCain.
If you are a true American you will vote Obama.

Texas Trail Dog   June 25th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

Someone state that wer need someone to clean up the Republican mess. OH NY if he thinks Obama is the man. What a dunce.

Phil Proud Republic from MA   June 25th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

"Enlightened Voter" your not every enlightened at all. You just blither away with liberal babble in every posting. Trying doing some reading before posting so you make yourself look like less of an idiot.

Richard, St. Paul, MN   June 25th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

I'm all in favor of a Third Party, but Nader and Barr are just adding buffoonery to the mix..... still, they're better than McCain and his retread policies that have been failing for the past eight years.

Obama '08!

arc, Lugano CH   June 25th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

Puma! Puma! Puma! It seems like this is all you hear now. Senator Barack Obama won the nomination and he will win the General Election.

So why don’t these Hillary Puma cretins go to Zimbabwe and witness actual electoral injustice at work since they have so much ‘experience’ in the field? There they can hoot and holler “I’m a strong-willed empowered Puma!” all they want; that is, right before someone cuts off their hands and their arms.

Jeremy   June 25th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

Obama is just another mega-politician plain and simple. The major political parties are two evils there is no lesser of.

Obama Supporter   June 25th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

Barr will certainly hurt the Republicans more this year than Nader will hurt the dems – I think Barr might actually do alright. The republicans aren't excited about John McCain, and I think there is a bit of a crisis of faith on their side of the aisle, so maybe Barr, as a small government libertarian, will be appealing.

Nader isn't very exciting or new – we've seen him run before and everyone knows he has no chance now, so I don't think that too many dems will drift to him.

Broad street buddy   June 25th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

Yes Ellie these two definitely are not winning any beauty contests anytime soon. Looks are not everything, but for a third party candidate, it would sure help.

we've got a great shot in GA   June 25th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

Have my fellow Obamacans seen the latest GA polls? 44%-McCain, 43%-Obama and 6%-Barr. Since people are using this blog to spue hate and division, let's use it for our political strategy. With Barr as a spoiler and new voters we can win GA! This could change everything. Go to barackobama.com and get involved. If you can't go to GA that's fine, it's the technology age. Bombard GA with phone calls, emails, and text messages. Force the republicans to spend their money defending states that have historically been red. This way they will have less money for states like FL and OH. Strategic planning people!

Farrell, Houston, Tx   June 25th, 2008 4:09 pm ET

Intriguing is not all Nader and Barr are, they look like two men hell bent on destroying anybody that gets in their way. And may I say, without diplomacy. Find another game to play, Nader and Barr, time has done past you bye, bye.

S.B. Stein E.B. NJ   June 25th, 2008 4:07 pm ET

It is currently unlikely since there is a major party candidate that has a great appeal since he is a first. As for Barr and Nader, they can pull some voters away from the two major party candidates, but not enough to make a huge leap. They need to get more spots in Congress and state legislatures to show that their respective parties can do something and stand for something.

Didine - Maryland   June 25th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

Nader and Barr have no chance to win this election. They will both hurt Mcsane beccause they will still his vote.

Justice League   June 25th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

We had a good third party candidate in Ross Perot. That was 12 years ago. This year's politics is far different than the scope of the way things were in '96. It may be a long wait until America sees a powerful third party candidate like Ross again.

bernj   June 25th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

Nader is almost as senile as McCain and possibly even more clueless...if such a thing is possible. His comments today about Obama really show how out of touch he is. He has no right or credibility to say anything about the black experience in America.

As for Bob Barr....first he is certainly NOT a real libertarian ideologically. Barr is a nut case and closer to George Wallace in philosophy.

They both would do humanity a favor if they would STFU and go home.

Pappu   June 25th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

I am still angry at the way the media treated Hillary. I am even angrier that Obama is trying to grab her supporters after all the s... his campaign put out. I find him to be untrustworthy, arrogant and vague on policies. I could not in good conscience vote for McCain for a plethora of reasons, although I must say that the nuclear option is the only sure alternative to the oil crisis right now. So, I don't have a candidate to vote for. I will either stay home or consider Nader.

Dave   June 25th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

First off, the way our political system is set up currently, there is no way a third party could ever compete on the same level as the big 2. The federal and state governments make it all but impossible to do so. I personally think this is downright wrong, and I believe that a multiple party system would be a great improvement over this partisan tug of war bs that we put up with now.
Secondly, the only way you could ever expect a 3rd party candidate to have a chance is to have someone that is a level headed moderate. These two crackpots are way out on the fringe of politics. Sure, they make a lot of noise, but their ideas are so radical that they could never get any noticable support from either side, and even the indy voters can't trust these two.

DMAC in ID   June 25th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

YES!!!! But not Nader. Bob Barr so far shows me more than any of the ones in the running. This old grandma has been looking into him. Maybe some of you nay sayers out there shold do the same thing if you don't have tunnel vision and a brain stuck in one gear.

Ian   June 25th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

They will most likely both get about 2% of the vote and cancel each other out.

Uncle Sam   June 25th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

It is difficult being an independent-minded candidate in a partisan culture. Just look at the challenges John McCain has been facing.

xddy4u   June 25th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

Both of these jokers are nothing but opportunists. Every Presidential election we have to put up with Nader and his BS. Now we have Barr.
They know they can't win, they just want to act as spoilers. I wouldn't waste my vote on them. I'm a registered DEM, but before I waste my vote on those clowns I'd vote GOP.

independent   June 25th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

no,silly.obama will be our next president.now would be excellant vacation time. wolf?

Fella from Chicago   June 25th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

Barr will hurt McCain more than Nader Obama. Makes no difference. Obama will win in a landslide in November because people are blind hoping upon hope for positive change. Obama will give them change, but not what they were expecting. Germans know all too well about a Fuhrer with a golden tongue.

Paul   June 25th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

I don't think Bob Barr is going anywhere. Did you see his face after eating that cheese in "Borat?"

Ellie in Aurora, CO   June 25th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

They both look perpetually depressed!

Noah   June 25th, 2008 3:58 pm ET

You forgot Cynthia McKinney for the Green Party!!

I like that other choices are available but I’m not too thrilled with McKinney, Nader or Barr.

McKinney’s too out there after attacking the security guard at the House of Representatives.

Barr’s boring and too conservative for my tastes.

Nader has run so many times that his candidacy has just become a joke.

Had Clinton won the nomination I’d choose a third party but since Obama won, he’s my choice.

ANYONE BUT MCCAIN 2008

Peter   June 25th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

they'll destroy McCain...

Jay from the west   June 25th, 2008 3:57 pm ET

Forget 3rd party, right now it looks as if McCain is having trouble breaking thru.

Generation X   June 25th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

Don't know about Barr but Nader has done this over and over and over and over......again. LMAO

Ula Nejad- Sacramento Ca   June 25th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

I think John McCain should stick to his guns on reform. He will be talking about alternatives in the future to complement the ongoing progress of immigration, energy, healthcare and foreign policy. Reform= deifnes reality and brings hope=Leadership.

Jennifer from Atlanta   June 25th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

I fully support Barr as he has the ability to diminish the voting base for McCain and further ensure Obama's and the American people's victory. Nader is a has been who's too irrelevant to even comment on.

Stevik   June 25th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

Nader is history. He won't get many votes at all. I voted for him in 2000 (in a non-swing state) as a protest. He no longer is an effective protest candidate. He's lost all credibility. This year, I live in a swing state this year, so will happily vote for Obama.

The more votes Barr gets, the better Obama's chances. Good luck, Bob Barr! May you help bring in an Obama landslide!

CW4Barak   June 25th, 2008 3:55 pm ET

Not this year Wolf....this year the Democrats will show the American people why they always have to clean up the Republicans' mess....we are tired of the atmosphere of fear Wolf....we want hope, we need change.

Obama '08

nitro   June 25th, 2008 3:54 pm ET

Ralph Nader has always been an idiot so nothing he says takes away from that notion.

s   June 25th, 2008 3:54 pm ET

Yes, but not in this election cycle. We have one party (Dem) excited about their candidate and the other party (GOP) 'fine'- not satisfied with their candidate.

It is possible for a third party candidate to make noise if both major parties (DEM & GOP) appeared to be highly dissatisfied!!!

Ellie in Aurora, CO   June 25th, 2008 3:49 pm ET

OMG – Nader or Barr???? Can you imagine them representing the US around the world? OMG!!!!

A recovering Republican   June 25th, 2008 3:49 pm ET

Not these 2, and not this year - the one good chance of doing so was Ross Perot, and all he did was put Billyboy into the white house - and the benefit to the budget was largely due to GBI raising taxes, which cost him the election. Remeber, Billyboy got in with about 43% of the popular vote, and couldn't even manage 50% in his second run.

At best, the result will be, as the LA Times poll shows, a drain from McCain - not from Obama.

Doris,Memphis,TN   June 25th, 2008 3:49 pm ET

Nadar is toast!
Attacking Obama is old news.
Barr will probably cover some ground.

Patrick   June 25th, 2008 3:49 pm ET

Nader just murdered his own candidacy so I'd say that counts him out.

Brandon Hillary Democrat for Mc Cain   June 25th, 2008 3:48 pm ET

Barr will fall flat on his face, he will NOT be the new nader trust that you obama cultists. Most people dont even know who he is outside of Georgia.

Our anger is not going anywhere-get use to it.

Puma pac.
Nobama 08

Enlightened Voter   June 25th, 2008 3:47 pm ET

Hopefully a so called 'accident' will not befall any of these two but you never know with the republicans and john mcwar.

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hambypCNN: @DanDoranBlum nice. hopefully you get two big wins over Pitt in one week.
Updated: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:42:32 -0800
hambypCNN: @AP_Ken_Thomas excellent duane spencer reference. let's try to work in lee scruggs, too, before the season ends.
Updated: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:14:50 -0800
@wolfblitzercnn: Shocking - what's happening in Baghdad. Five terror attacks. More than 100 killed and 400 injured amid fears the violence will increase.
Updated: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:08:29 -0800
hambypCNN: Kaine vs. Steele on Situation Room today in 6P hour.
Updated: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:55:02 -0800
@edhenrycnn: My colleague Dan Lothian and I show what's it's like on the road with the President - http://bit.ly/7XSU53 #cnn
Updated: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:09:21 -0800
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