July 1, 2008
Posted: 07:40 AM ET

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Obama criticized MoveOn.org over its controversial ad.
Obama criticized MoveOn.org over its controversial ad.

(CNN) — Barack Obama on Monday seemed to take a direct swipe at MoveOn.org, the powerful liberal group which endorsed the Illinois senator's candidacy earlier this year and was at times instrumental to his organization in several key battleground states.

In a speech designed to combat charges he lacks patriotism, Obama sharply condemned organizations that use "these old, threadbare arguments" to level criticisms and specifically pointed to MoveOn.org's controversial newspaper ad last fall that attacked the top U.S. general in Iraq, David Petraeus.

Watch: Obama talks patriotism

"All too often our politics still seems trapped in these old, threadbare arguments – a fact most evident during our recent debates about the war in Iraq, when those who opposed administration policy were tagged by some as unpatriotic, and a general providing his best counsel on how to move forward in Iraq was accused of betrayal," Obama said.

MoveOn has not responded to Obama's comments.

The full page ad was published in the New York Times to coincide with Petraeus' appearance on the Hill last September to brief Congress on the progress in Iraq. Under a picture of Petraeus, a banner read, "General Petraeus or General Betray Us?"

Watch: New York Times takes heat for ad

The ad went on to allege the general was "cooking the books for the White House," and intentionally painting a rosy picture of the conditions on the ground.

Despite pressure from Republicans, neither Hillary Clinton nor Barack Obama formally repudiated the group for the ad, though both expressed criticisms. Clinton voted against a Senate resolution to formally condemn the group, while Obama specifically avoided voting either way on the resolution.

"The notion that we're wasting time debating about a newspaper ad, makes no sense," he said then. "So I didn't even vote on that vote, I just said I'm not going to vote on this. This is the kind of game playing that the American people are tired of."

MoveOn.org, which endorsed Obama shortly before the crucial Febuary 5 round of primaries, boasts more than 3 million members and has since conducted large-scale get-out-the-vote efforts and fundraising on the Illinois senator's behalf.

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Anne in Seattle   July 1st, 2008 10:26 am ET

Obama is true to his words in that he wants to be president of ALL Americans.. not just blacks, or the left, or any particular group of people. A true leader doesn't run w/ the pack; he's able to constructively criticize what he feels is not good or beneficial to the WHOLE. This country has such a diverse group of people each w/ their respective strong feelings and beliefs.. he can't please every single one.. the best he can do is look at what is fair and good for the entire country in the bigger picture.. and not just for today or tommorow but in the long run.

JB   July 1st, 2008 10:24 am ET

Hey Delta 9-

Are you such a simpleton that this is how you would explain a liberal?

Clearly you are a right wing nut. Obama is going to increase taxes for those making over $250,000. The truth is that the majority of people making that much are just fine. They have little to no debt, they are making ends meet. They are driving heir suv's whereever they want, with no concern of making mortgage payments.

And for the average American (those maing less than $250,000 (family) or $200,000 (single)) A TAX REDUCTION!!!

Those are the facts. The wealthy should be paying more in taxes. The elite are the ones who make policy and spend our tax money (and vote for wars).

Your simplistic views are inaccurate at best!

MLG   July 1st, 2008 10:17 am ET

I don't trust Obama and NEVER WILL. I will not vote for him either.

Danny in Ohio   July 1st, 2008 10:12 am ET

See? There you go? He's slamming people who are supporting them for doing politics the old and sleazy way. Another example out of many others.

Bulldog   July 1st, 2008 10:08 am ET

All of you Obama haters posting here sound like complete idiots repeating false rumors and showing how stupid you really are. All it takes it few minutes to do some simple research and yet you continue to repeat false rumors and lies. You haters are either lazy or immoral depending on your motives here.

PCC   July 1st, 2008 10:07 am ET

He's just now doing this…….What was he waiting on…..????…Obama see no change in Obama then i see in Bush….

Rick FL   July 1st, 2008 10:05 am ET

The desperation from many Republicans here is almost palatable. Que paso a su fiesta?

It seems conservatives are using the same ole fear & smear campaigning ploys, since they are not offering much in the ways of ideas. Their divisive attempts are simply sad, yet transparently amusing at the same time (i.e. "PUMA"). No wonder I left the Republican Party.

Obama '08
Si se puede!

ladymary   July 1st, 2008 10:04 am ET

Roger….I admire your intentions to stand for what you believe is right, but I think you have been swollowing the falsehoods put out by the Clinton campaign. Yes, she was the presumptive nominee for a long time, but she lost. Obama got the most votes, delegates, states, etc. Clinton played the race card, the gender card, the tears, etc. No one selected Obama..he won fair and square. I'm sorry your candidate did not win and you are so upset about it, but honestly, I think you are going overboard. You are thinking of Bill's administration and thinking Hill could recreate that time. Look at it logically…Bill was not that great. Our economy was already recovering when he took office and it was fired by the dot com boom not by anything Bill did. Why not help this country out by starting a movement to aleviate this country's debt….set up a donation page specifically for the national debt repayment and ask every citizen to contribute. If we each gave $10.00 it would make a substantial dent.

Patrick   July 1st, 2008 10:01 am ET

While I am pleasantly surprised that he has come out against moveon, he could have done this with a vote in the senate but failed to show any leadership by sitting out the vote, just like all the times he voted "present" in Illinois. Moveon is a hate group and should be formally listed as so. No member or supporter of Moveon should ever be allowed to criticize any far right hate group b/c they are the same thing, and the fact that they can't see this shows me how ignorant they are.

Sue   July 1st, 2008 10:00 am ET

Can't you see the plan? Obama's people go out and say horrible things about other people and then Obama comes in and shoots them down to make himself look like such a fine fellow. It is the Obama strategy to make BO look good, you fools.

Jeanine G   July 1st, 2008 9:51 am ET

If Obama is willing to as you say LJ and "smack the hand that feeds him" then how can you argue "he will say anything to anyone" to get elected?

Obama doesn't do or say anything to anyone, he is willing to disagree strongly, even with those close to him and risk their anger if he feels strongly about something. Moveon is a big organization, but I'm banking that the majority will respect that kind of honesty and keep backing him. I know I will.

Becky   July 1st, 2008 9:49 am ET

Lavallette, NJ July 1st, 2008 9:15 am ET

I am scared of Barack Hussein Obama.

________________

And I'm scared of you for spreading hate.

benvictor   July 1st, 2008 9:47 am ET

As a Hillary Democrat, I absolutely love the ticket of John McCain and Mitt Romney. I strongly urge John to ask Mitt to be his running mate. Hillary Democrats will support this ticket enthusiastically in November.

Dusacre   July 1st, 2008 9:46 am ET

Now, this will be the first for me. I don't agree with Barack on this one. We need MOVEON.ORG!!!!

twes   July 1st, 2008 9:46 am ET

You want to vote for a man who voted against MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY in his state a vote against that day is a vote against civil rights it is not a black thing it is a people is thing everyone has civil rights gay,white,hispanic and black. So PLEASE PEOPLE LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE McCAIN HAS BEEN RUNNING FOR OFFICE SINCE 2000.

Another old white woman for Obama   July 1st, 2008 9:45 am ET

Swallowed up in minutae. This kind of silly bickering is not going to help our country one iota.
Either you have loved the last 8 years and will vote for more of the same or you want a chance of something better.
Either you agree with the Republicans (War Mongers) or you want a chance at Diplomatic solutions.
Either you are locked in a time warp or you are looking toward the future.
It doesn't get easier than that.
Obama is our last best chance.
Please don't blow it.

Jeanine G   July 1st, 2008 9:45 am ET

I'm a Moveon.org member and an Obama supporter, and I agree with him here. I think it is unfair to question the patriotism of fellow Americans who are clearly trying their best to do what they feel is right for the country.

Jarrett   July 1st, 2008 9:44 am ET

Delta 9:

Are you even aware of the causes of the great depression?
The government did increase taxes but it also decreased government spending which we now know has a dramatic effect on consumption. We raised taxes and effectively decreased consumption by cutting government spending which played a part in the great depression upon numerous other reasons such as the overbuilding in the 20's and a lack of complete understanding of economics. Keynesian's view of economics soon came after the great depression which helped explain some of the causes as well but to insinuate that higher taxes alone led to the great depression displays a lack of knowledge about the causes and the fact that you say more government spending played a part in the great depression when in fact government spending was cut during the great depression as we as a country were more concerned with balanceing the budget and minimizing the debt. Please if people don't know what they are talking about, check your facts before you make posts that are uninformed and biased toward making a point that isn't there.

ZIUS BRAD   July 1st, 2008 9:41 am ET

the media is selling mccain and a new war in iran whith it …..BEING A PRISONER OF WAR FOR 5 YEARS ONLY QUALIFIES YOU TO BE IN A MENTAL INSTITUTE…. MCCAIN IS NOT FIT TO BE PRESIDENT ..BOTH MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY…NO MORE PLAYING NICE THE COUNTRY'S FUTURE IS AT STAKE ….VOTE FOR NEW LEADERSHIP VOTE DEMOCRAT …BY THE WAY RALPH NADER IS AN IDIOT WE OWN BUSH BEING ELECTED TO HIM…OBAMA 08

Michael   July 1st, 2008 9:41 am ET

don't know why I still turn to these comment pages. I keep hoping for discourse, but usually find persons talking past each other; and when someone does respond to another, (s)he usually turns to a personal attack or some other fallacy. I realize this medium is limited; but persons who genuinely care about, and who are capable of democratic discourse have a wonderful opportunity to learn more about others and our political landscape, as well as help others do the same. Let's engage each other more modestly, in hope of finding and promoting truth. For example, is it noble not to vote on a bill one considers politically-motivated? Is it cowardly? Is it something else? And WHY do we think so? I imagine I could learn a lot reading a list of posts modestly proposing answers to these questions and giving reasons why they agree or disagree with the reasons others post.

Michael   July 1st, 2008 9:38 am ET

I don't know why I still turn to these comment pages. I keep hoping for discourse, but find usually persons talking past each other; and when someone does respond, (s)he usually turns to a personal attack or some other fallacy. I realize this medium is limited; but persons who genuinely care about, and capable of democratic discourse have a wonderful opportunity to learn more about others and our political landscape, as well as help others do the same. Let's not pretend we already know everything and engage eachother more modestly. For example, is it noble not to vote on a bill one considers politically-motivated? Is it cowardly? Is it something else? And WHY do we think so? I imagine I could learn a lot reading a list of posts modestly proposing answers to these questions and giving reasons why they agree or disagree with the reasons others post.

LaurieG   July 1st, 2008 9:38 am ET

Now that Obama has used MoveOn through the primary, he is throwing them under the bus. Not that it matters anymore. Obama has bought and paid for the Democratic Party, and where else will Democrats go? It's all about power, and Obama is no more principled than the next guy.

Sabrina Wang   July 1st, 2008 9:36 am ET

I see American political is destroying a political idealist. Obama is not running for Misiaa, he is running for president and Americans are ruinning out a potential political canadidate by SEVERE questionning his religion (is religion freedon in America? is religion political separated? not for president!!), attacking his races(the truth is white American owe blacks whole lots more), questionning his patriotism, just because he is not white?! speech is not free!

JUST BECAUSE HE IS NOT WHITE SO HE IS BEING QUESTIONNING, DOUBTING, TESTING, TORTUING….. IT IS MORE UNDERSTANDABLE WHAT AMERICAN IS - no more question!!!

Becky   July 1st, 2008 9:32 am ET

I like how Obama stands up to people no matter if they're for him or against him. He's not afraid on stepping on anyone's toes to make things right.

LJ   July 1st, 2008 9:31 am ET

Obama smacks the hands that feed him, he will say anything to anyone for any reason come on Obama do something and stand by it.

Greg Pottstown, Pa.   July 1st, 2008 9:26 am ET

Obama specifically avoided voting either way on the resolution.

NO WAY!!!!!! I can't believe that !!

NotALemming   July 1st, 2008 9:23 am ET

Obama not vote on something? Say it ain't so!!!!! Here, I thought he at least voted "present", instead of totally skipping out….

Jill American   July 1st, 2008 9:22 am ET

I left MoveOn when the endorsed Obama - thought it was a bad choice - still do.

Vernon   July 1st, 2008 9:21 am ET

Sen.Obama is above the petty smear politics,even if he has to criticize an organization that supports him…..Obama 08

HA   July 1st, 2008 9:20 am ET

I am a MoveOn member and I see nothing wrong with what he said, so please spare the lies, garbage, and spreading of misinformation/propaganda.

WE ARE UNITED AND WILL TAKE BACK THIS COUNTRY.

OBAMA 08
YES WE CAN

1234p   July 1st, 2008 9:20 am ET

Just try to understand Obama's position. I'm sure he has a good reason for doing this, right? I trust him. He's gonna make a great leader for America.

McCain's just gonna be Bush all over again, bringing America's ecomomy, credibility and reputation down.

In Obama's case, just remember that no human is perfect.

Vote Nader   July 1st, 2008 9:18 am ET

Sergeant Will June 30th, 2008 6:57 pm ET

i'm a soldier in the US army station in Germany, i have been Deployed 3 time and on my way to my four Deployment i am sick of Deploying and wasting my time i am so happy that Sen Obamama want to with pull the troops out cause we are burned out. Sen Mccain have no idea and is jut like Bush who want our country to pay out taxes Dollars for a useless country.

————————————————————————————————

I realize you aren't actually in the Army, but I thought I would say this anyway.

Get a new job if you don't like what you are doing.

VotePact

** Nader/Gonzalez 2008 **

curtis39   July 1st, 2008 9:16 am ET

The fact that Obama's willing to criticize and/or turn his back on MoveOn.org. is a win/win for him. Most people despise those people and might be moved to now support Obama. As for the move on-ers themselves, they'd rather walk over hot coals than pull the lever for McCain, so their vote is a lock for Obama, no matter how much he disses them.

Ted   July 1st, 2008 9:15 am ET

Does someone can tell me why Mr. Obama didn't denounce moveon.org back in Feb when they endorsed him. Why now is this one of through under the bus thing after he uses them? This Guy is scary …………….

Lavallette, NJ   July 1st, 2008 9:15 am ET

I am scared of Barack Hussein Obama.

therealist   July 1st, 2008 9:14 am ET

All on a political stage to the right.

This man will do anything to be president. Is he related to the Clintons too?

Jan   July 1st, 2008 9:12 am ET

Obama is very well known for biting the hand that feeds him–under the bus with moveon.org! what a turncoat–I will stay home rather than cast my vote for him. His agenda is beginning to look just like GWB. Clintons have forced him to be politically savvy-next thing you know, he will be hugging Bill.

Jeff   July 1st, 2008 9:08 am ET

I'm sure Obama discussed this with Moveon prior to making such comments, he's not known for biting the hand that feeds him.

Tony   July 1st, 2008 9:06 am ET

Obama had better WAKE UP!

Rather than going around giving speeches on patriotism, he had better start making more speeches and television ads pushing the issue of the next President more than likely being able to appoint at least 3, if not 4, justices to the Supreme Court.

If McCain is elected you can be sure he will appoint the most strict, conservative, right-wing justices he can find.

The American people are lazy, apathetic, whiny and complain constatnly, but rather than tear themselves away from the idiot box and reality t.v. shows, getting off the sofa and attending protests, community meetings, writing their Congressman/woman, Senators, etc., they moan and expect someone else to do it.

Unfortuntely, an appointment to the Supreme Court if for life. No matter whether you are too old to know your right hand from your left or even your name, as in the case of William Rehnquist.

It's time Americans put up or shot up and stop whining!

Delta 9   July 1st, 2008 9:05 am ET

Barrack Obama = Liberal
Liberal = More Goverment Spending
More Goverment Spending = Higher Taxes
Higher Taxes = Less Disposable Income
Less Disposable Income = Economic Recession
I hope you Obama supporters are ready to experience what our grandparents went through in the1920's and 1930's.

McCain '08

Really   July 1st, 2008 9:05 am ET

Either you are with us or your an enemy. Get on the Barrack bus or get run over. We are about change and if you don't like it then you are against the children, the planet, your country. If you are not a Barrack supporter by now than you are racists.

Change you can believe in. Not sure what change he is talking about and he does not have any record of making drastic changes but if he says it, it must be true.

Oh yes we can destroy the country from within. Oh yes we can.

Obama/Jimmy Carter '08.

Charles   July 1st, 2008 9:05 am ET

Obama bites the bourgeois liberal hand that fed him—like we didn't see that coming!

Matt   July 1st, 2008 9:04 am ET

Guns don't suicide people, people suicide people

mad liberal   July 1st, 2008 9:02 am ET

Dont make the LIBERALS mad Obama. They are all you have!!!!!!!!!!!

benjamin   July 1st, 2008 9:02 am ET

good for you obama — glad you aren't just playing partisanship like all the others….

and good job handling wes clark's comments as well.

i honour a dem who doesn't just applaud everything that every other dem has to say.

MICHAEL, PORTSMOUTH NH   July 1st, 2008 8:59 am ET

I don't care about Moveon or the Clintons. Barack Obama is letting valuable time get away while John McCain is talking about issues of trade, energy, oil, etc. Barack Obama needs to start talking issues and stop wasting time answering nonsense topics. He is losing voters because they don't hear him talking about issues. If the Clintons weren't self-serving they would have backed him the day after Hillary conceded, can we be adults!!!!

Phil Proud Republic from MA   July 1st, 2008 8:58 am ET

Obama youre a loser

Jon   July 1st, 2008 8:57 am ET

Obama's speech is pure desperate rhetoric if you look at the anti-American positions taken by Democrats. Shame on you and the Democrats who want to make this country less FREE!

FROM HILLARY TO MCCAIN   July 1st, 2008 8:56 am ET

HAHAHAHAHA!

So much for new politics…

How do so many people fit under one bus???

Pat   July 1st, 2008 8:55 am ET

Gene:

"He did have a big misstep though in my opinion… with Gen. Clark… He shouldn't have apologized and rejected his comments. McCain keeps trying to cram his POW status as experience while constantly bashing Obama for not having any experience. Clark was dead on.. there was no apology needed… Obama should have stood up for Clark on that one and asked McCain for a real response.. not a "that's not fair" stamping his little feet response."

I completely agree with your comments on Gen. Wesley Clark. Obama needs to stop apologizing when one of his supporters speaks the truth. Prisoner of war does not equate to military experience, especially a prisoner of war who capitulated to the enemy.

Frank   July 1st, 2008 8:52 am ET

If you just look at the past few years……the specific voting actions and rhetoric (we are losing the war) then the term 'unpatriotic' does indeed fit, most, if not all, of the Democrats!

NC voter   July 1st, 2008 8:48 am ET

Hey! MoveOn.org! Once you're there give a high 5 to Rev Wright, Obama's grandma and whole gang he's thrown under that bus!

Will, in Richmond, VA   July 1st, 2008 8:48 am ET

Look, problems with politics are on both sides of the fence. Conservatives and Liberals have been really nasty to each other, using sound bites and hyperbole to be effective with very little focus on real facts.

We DO need to move away from this. Obama has to hold his supporters in check too.

proud army and navy mom   July 1st, 2008 8:48 am ET

this article title is deceiving and you are better than this cnn. at no time, in his statements, did he mention moveon.org.

he was talking about anyone who uses these kinds of tactics. it is so pitiful that because this man has honor and dignity, that people do their best to try to tear him down.

we faint from the sheer unfairness of this current system, but we rail against any change that is trying to made. no wonder people from other countries view us in such a negative light. we must seem like a bunch of loud-mouthed hypocrites!

FL.voter   July 1st, 2008 8:42 am ET

I thought his virtue was his judgment?? Hejudged wrong again? Hard for me to believe? Not BO?

McCain 08′

wilfred   July 1st, 2008 8:41 am ET

B.O. new name should be FLIPPER

MilCurrent   July 1st, 2008 8:41 am ET

Wesley Clark is an arrogant jerk. I'm glad he's supporting the demolibs. I give no credence to anything he says.

Belle2   July 1st, 2008 8:40 am ET

Obama fans do not seem to understand the problem. This is a very small space to explain completely but let try. If taken literally and on face value, Gen Clark's words are rather benign. However, when taken in context with other Obama fans making negative attacks against McCain's military service and his time as a POW and Obama's insistence that he will not attack anyone's patriotism, it takes on a different meaning. We all know when Obama says he will not attack what he really means is "they attacked me." bc

Michelle, PA   July 1st, 2008 8:37 am ET

Another day, another mountain out of a molehill from the media. Yawn! Can we please get back to talking about what these two guys are going to do about gas prices, jobs, infrastructure and Iraq? PLEASE???

Tom, St. Paul   July 1st, 2008 8:35 am ET

This is why I LOVE THIS GUY! He clearly sees that the future does not lie with heavy-handed partisan attacks. MoveOn, it's time for you to move on! Why don't you and Rush and Sean go off and fight somewhere so the rest of us can rebuild productive political dialog in this nation.

NObama   July 1st, 2008 8:30 am ET

He is moveon.org's boy and will fall in line. Moveon.org told him to lose the flag pin and he did. He knows who the boss is. Don't worry Mr. Soros.

Vito   July 1st, 2008 8:27 am ET

Wow, let me state the obvious here. Moveon.org has supported Obama, but that does not mean that Obama must agree with every tactic they employ. I am a democrat and a liberal, but that does not mean that every decision a liberal organization makes is going to be correct.

Yes, perhaps Obama said what he said because he is trying to appeal to more centrist voters, but what he said is also in line with what he has been saying all along this campaign. What this shows is that he is sticking to his beliefs about honest, higher minded campaigning, and rejecting gutter politics.

LOL   July 1st, 2008 8:25 am ET

I love how SOOOOO many people say things like they hate BO. But EVERY poll shows him up. Funny, guess the same thing happened when you ALL voted for HRC… YOU LOST. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

JB   July 1st, 2008 8:21 am ET

This is why I like this guy so much. Take on DailyKos next!

Although, I would have been happier if he did it earlier. But then he wouldn't have gotten th nod, so, smart, I guess.

These far left loons have been trying to take over the party. Clearly, with Obama in office that is not a concern.

These institutions were established to protect Clinton and all his missteps. I guess we don't need them anymore. Thank god. Good by Clintons!! The worst Pres and carpet bagging senator - EVER. Ask the people of NY if they are happy (for the job done) w/ HRC.

Eric   July 1st, 2008 8:21 am ET

As long as MoveOn continues to do what they're doing and Obama keeps his distance I'm good. We need MoveOn since the swiftboaters are OFFICIALLY tied to McCain.

Matt   July 1st, 2008 8:17 am ET

After giving the democrats 2 years of control of Congress, it is obvious they have no idea what they are doing.

Meanwhile, Obama has chosen to dodge voting on any bill that may be controversial.

It is obvious that he has no spine.

More and more people are beginning to realize how big of a mistake it would be to cast a vote for Obama.

Americans are not stupid, Obama will never be President.

Chris   July 1st, 2008 8:14 am ET

Once again….does word really matter if there is and never will be any actions behind it?…….Obama once again played the role of being above it all, yet he did not speak out against the ad when it ran and avoided to vote the resolution against it. Its a pattern here where he continues to not take any hard stands that may jeopardize his political ambition until public opinion poll dictates one way or another. Folks, hard times comes unexpectely and a better future demands actions today in order to build a foundation for tomorrow. If an Obama presidency is one where no actions is ever taken until after public opinion polls has all be tabulated and summarized…. then what sort of change will we have…..when hindsight acts are often too little too late.

BHulion   July 1st, 2008 8:09 am ET

What the American people are tired of is politicians (Dems & Reps) who do not take a stand either way. If you want to lead, then do so; if not get out of the way and let those who do, do so. Not voting either way is a coward's way out. Stand up for your convictions and do what is best for all Americans, not just those to whom you pander.

Marge Hibbing Mn   July 1st, 2008 7:57 am ET

Dearie me…..In keeping with the message that the good old boy bloggers have made against Hillary when one of her supporters got off message.

THE SUPPORTERS ONLY ARE FOLLOWING THE EXAMPLE SET BY THE CANDIDATE.

Does this apply to obama also. I mean Hillary was flamed and called names etc because one of her supporters said something that was considered negative to the other party. In that case I think since Hillary was held responsible, because as the good old boy bloggers said she should have kept more control of her campaign workers. Well heck de doo dah,,,how about obama keeping more track of HIS SUPPORTERS…Oh, guess that's ok he's a man and men don't have to live up to the rules they oppose on women.

Stephanie   July 1st, 2008 7:57 am ET

To which Moveon.org replied "hey, it's all good, Obama's campaign manager called us earlier on to let us know it's all rhetoric and he has to say these things to get the bitter patriotic religious people on his side, no worries"

Walt, Belton,TX   July 1st, 2008 7:52 am ET

When the subject has so many potential and real points to worry about and ponder, then causing doubt and delving into them is worth while. Especially when you consider the future of our great Country and that of our Grandkids is at stake.

Personally, I have not seen any real evidence that says Obama was not brought up as a muslim and that his book did not say that he would side with the muslims if it came down to a choice. He speaks of his african heritage with pride and denigrates his white heritage. If that is not doubtful as to one's priorities, I don't know what is.

Filipinos, Latinos, Americanos for Obama   July 1st, 2008 7:51 am ET

Obama has always spoken the TRUTH…

It is only TRUTH that will set free the United States of America…

Let us choose TRUTH!

Vote OBAMA for PRESIDENT!!!

GO Bama GO!!!

Richard, Upper Peninsula MI   July 1st, 2008 7:48 am ET

Lynn in NM said "He has to move to the center, as if the electorate is so stupid they won't remember he is one of the most liberal senators we have."
______________________________________________________
The electorate is stupid, how do you think we ended up with 8 years of Bush?

dave   July 1st, 2008 7:47 am ET

July 15 everyone wear something Blue to show that we are proud of what Hillary accomplished in the run for presidency and even if you do not support Hillary to show that a women could do anything she wants to do.

sc   July 1st, 2008 7:43 am ET

GIVE ME A BREAK.
LIES, LIES
PHONY PROMISSES. HOW STUPID CAN PEOPLE BE ???

Obama 08/12   July 1st, 2008 2:08 am ET

Obama or die ……Washington DC/Please don't downgrade your Grandfather but certainly don't include all older generations people in your statement ( I am French ,German /Irish/English I am 78 and I have been for Obama from day one .)
Down with old politics and move on with the new .
I read all campaign news of how Obama is doing and it dont take age old or young and all in between to see what has transpired in last 7 1/2 years to this country with Bush /Cheney in Iraq ,all the lives lost / wounded so helping Obama win makes what I have given small change if our brave men and woman don't end up in /Bush /Cheney/mcBush 100 years of war all started by these sleeze bags .
How could anyone in their right mind vote for McCain and for more of this McBush b ull_ _ _ _

Obama Yes We Can you are on your way to the Oval Offi e

Edward Lynn   July 1st, 2008 2:02 am ET

There's an old saying that goes, "it may be hard to stand up to your enemies, but it can be even harder to stand up to your friends." Obama is showing that he has the rare courage to do this, and I find it refreshing and encouraging! It's a good sign, too. Because I definately want a president who's not afraid to tell those working under him when they're out of line. Just imagine if the current resident of the White House had shown this kind of courage over the last 7 1/2 years!

No more of the same, it's time for a change. Sorry, McCain… we're leaving the Bush Leagues, and boarding the Obama train!

Texas Trail Dog   July 1st, 2008 1:49 am ET

OBAMA'S AND HIS LIES ABOUT PATRIOTISM IS RIDICULOUS. HIE'S DOING THE SAME THING HE DID AGAINST HILLARY. HAVE OTHER PEOPLE TO MAKE SARCASTIC REMARKS ABOUT THE OTHER CANDIDATE THEN HE HIMSELF COME OUT THE NEXT DAY TO SAY I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. THIS MAN IS A COWARD UNFIT OF THE HIGHEST OFFICE OF THE LAND. SURELY YOU PEOPLE CAN SEE OBAMA FOR WHAT HE IS. YOU CAN'T SEE A SCAM. FOR ALL THIS TO COME OUT THE DAY BEFORE OBAMA STATES HE IS GOING TO MAKE A SPEECH ON PATRIOTISM HE HAS GEN. CLARK MAKE A STATEMENT THAT McCAIN BEING IN A NAM PRISON CAMP DOES NOT GIVE HIM THE EXPERIENCE TO BE PRESIDENT. WELL I'LL TAKE McCAIN'S PRISON TERM PLUS HIS TWENTY ODD SENATORIAL YEARS AGAINST OBAMA SEVERAL MONTHS AS A SENATOR TO BE WAY MORE QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT THAN OBAMA IS. YOU WANT A MAN SUCH AS McCAIN OR DO YOU WANT A LYING SNAKE, RESKO MONEY TAKER, TERRORIST SUPPORTER, ANTI-WHITES, ANTI-CHRISTIAN, COKE HEAD HOMO OBAMA TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.

Devon Spencer   July 1st, 2008 1:44 am ET

Republicans are doing what they do every election and calling the Democratic party's candidate the most liberal person ever, well…
If Obama is criticizing a highly liberal group who does some dumb things (but definitely does help the Democratic party more than it hurts it) then he is definitely not some die hard liberal. He is clearly showing to us that he will take on all of these stupid political games. The Republicans will do anything they can to destroy Democrats this year because they know they are screwed, and yet they think their old political games they played in 2004 against Kerry will work again. Americans are sick of Republican leadership and that was proven in 2006, special elections in 2008, and will be proven in the general election this year again.

The truth will set you free!   July 1st, 2008 1:38 am ET

It will be an abomination in the eyes of God if Obama gets the presidency. He is so anti American and so utterly liberal it's not even funny. He and those who are behind his candidacy are remaking him all over again with all this patriotism talk…..he is a puppet to those who hate the freedoms of this country and they will use him because he is willing to do what they want to become President. I never thought I would be saying this but Hillary is less scary than B. Hussein Obama. Like sheep to the slaughter all these Obamites are hanging onto this man's every word although he is not saying much of anything. These foolish people would follow this man over a cliff because they are so blind. God forbid this arrogant and vain man called Hussein Obama and his hate filled wife get in office.

MDB   July 1st, 2008 1:30 am ET

Ahmadinejad said today they are digging and preparing 350,000 graves for whomever attacks them. Meanwhile, NATO is ready, China is ready, the US is ready and we know Israel is ready…………………………..
bottom line, Obama is toast. No one except a pure moron is going to elect Obama to protect us from Iran… Game Over!

Barb in Tn   July 1st, 2008 1:27 am ET

Obama is such a phony. He is working thru Clark to fight McCain's claim to having more experience. Then he condemns it but Clark is still working on his campaign. McCain is not only talking about his POW experience but his many years in the Senate. McCain is the one who has actually crossed the isle to work with Dems. Obama has voted 98% of the time with his party during his short time in the US Senate. This is when he has bothered to vote at all. McCain knows how the Congress works alot better than Obama so he knows how to get things done. Change is a nice concept but it takes working within the system to get it started. Obama doesn't have the know how to do this based on his experience.
Funny how McCain basically refused to comment on Clarks comment except to say that he wasn't going to run that kind of dirty campaign. The guy, Obama, who is supposedly against POLITICS AS USUAL is the one who is playing them as usual. While McCain is not stooping to his level. McCain is keeping his word, Obama is not. Somehow that doesn't surprise me.

Obama Hater   July 1st, 2008 1:21 am ET

Obama is a preacher, period. He belongs in a pulpit, not the White House. He weakens our International appearance and only brings the bling.

Nia - Phoenix, AZ   July 1st, 2008 1:20 am ET

Don't bite the hand… It wouldn't surprise me if moveon bit back…so now to add to the list we have the GOP taking hit as well as moveon.org etc… well get ready for the battle.

Aliou FL for Obama   July 1st, 2008 1:18 am ET

As a would be head of state, It''s a good ting than Obama is not hung up with small stuff.

Jon   July 1st, 2008 1:15 am ET

MoveOn.org plays a major role in motivating the more extremist branches of the DNC. That said, they do make inappropriate moves, but so do all political groups of all platforms.

Obama's criticism of one tactic does nothing but indicate once more that he is taking up the reigns as the leader of the DNC. Good for him.

An aside directed toward Texas Trail Dog: your comment would be a lot more meaningful if you understood the simple difference between "your" and "you're." Can we say "sixth grade grammar?"

Roberto   July 1st, 2008 1:07 am ET

Let's all thank the Republicans for the great work they've done in the last 7.5 years (or the Rep congress of 1994-2006) by sending them down in flames in November. They had their chance and they blew it. They could have accomplished so much but, no, they had to strut their machismo and start an optional war. They had to prove they're the party of fiscal restraint by increasing pork projects by 600%. They had to prove they're the party of family values by getting caught with male pages, prostitutes and men's bathrooms soliciting gay sex.

Tell them what you think of the job they did. Send them packing for 20 years.

Sammy   July 1st, 2008 12:58 am ET

It's funny. When going through what people say it usually only takes the first 6 words to see if any particular post is nothing more than yelling the same ol things again. Pick a side. They both do it. Sometimes I will actually read one where someone has a thoughtful thing to say,

Here's my thought: A general has a duty to the wishes of the current administration. Whether he agrees with his orders or not the only two choices are to carry them out or to resign. Fast forward one year if/when Obama is elected. When he tells his generals to start leaving Iraq then they must do so, regardless if they think its a bad idea. If this is the case just wait till these generals are attacked from the right wing as traitors. They will be just as wrong as MoveOn.org was.

Ray, Columbus, OH   July 1st, 2008 12:57 am ET

Full disclosure: I am not an Obama supporter

But he was right about not voting. Congress has nothing better to do than "condemn" someone for exercising their right to free speech? And what happens if you're actions are "condemned", they take away your birthday or something?

We should pick members of Congress with a few monkeys throwing darts at names in the phone book. Couldn't do any worse.

Omar   July 1st, 2008 12:56 am ET

Moveon.org is too "left-wing" to be effective? Tell me, have "moderate" Democrats been effective in challenging Bush's policies? So-called "moderates" don't even show up for the fight. Right now, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi (and Barack Obama) have granted the Bush administration over $400 for covert operations inside Iran; they have voted to expand the government's ability to spy on citizens with a warrant; and they have voted to authorize $162 billion to fund the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan - no strings attached.

An American   July 1st, 2008 12:45 am ET

Aside from MoveOn, two issues. Issue number 1: Charlie Black, Issue number 2: Vicki Iseman . . . discuss

That's what I want to know more about. Why such one-sided reporting from the media?

Michael from CA   July 1st, 2008 12:44 am ET

Where is Hillary? We need her! Its unfortunate that lately Obama has to apologize for everything. When is he going to make his agenda clear? He is such a confusing person to pin down on where he stands. I cant say much for McCain either.

jimtranr in Oregon   July 1st, 2008 12:41 am ET

How many erstwhile friends, supporters, advisers, contributors, endorsing organizations, and grandmothers–to say nothing of policy positions–has Barack Obama had to denounce, disavow, let go, chastise, or throw under the bus in just the past couple of months? And how many more are to come?

His track record hardly inspires confidence.

california   July 1st, 2008 12:39 am ET

go obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 we love yuo. i am a college student and i look at you as my future please please win this election. obama 08!!!!!!

John   July 1st, 2008 12:34 am ET

Our Country is dying folks! Most of our youth is on drugs and free sex and with bad role models like Obama to lead them into a false state of mind, no wonder why thier all for a person who is out of control. Today I watched CNN news were Obama and his campain attacted Mr. McCain and the Miliary, saying that when a man gives years of his youth and life fighting for your Country you love,Obama state's that mean's nothing?? The youth and young people of this Nation better put down the drugs and beer cans and stop going to the all night rap awards before the find out they have another War in thier future! Obama will start more wars then he will ever end, don't you folks read the News paper's and see that Iran hate's us.

McCane   July 1st, 2008 12:29 am ET

The Limbaugh's and the swift boaters of the right are pigs that play the game by throwing mud to democratic candidates. Well, we at MoveOn are a new kind of pig that also know how to play the game and like it. We just fight fire with fire. We do not expect any thanks. Our reward is driving republicans out or power.

Leigh   July 1st, 2008 12:29 am ET

I wil not support Obama if he does not ask Hilary to be his running mate. It appears as if he is using her to gain votes that people had earmarked for her. If he was truly the serious contender, he wouldn't need her help. She needs to be his VP, if he stands a chance of winning.

franco   July 1st, 2008 12:28 am ET

So the "agent of change" is in reality the changing agent………….

J-Rob   July 1st, 2008 12:26 am ET

I love how it was priorly mentioned that Obama would say anything to win the election…

I think it would be wise to mention McCain changing his amnesty ideals. How he went from a more liberal stance to one which would satisfy the Republican base he so required during the election…

In fact, that seems like solid evidence to say McCain, is the candidate whom will say anything to win the election.

Raymond Duke   July 1st, 2008 12:24 am ET

To add a comment about Wesley Clark. Generals are appointed through a political progress in the senate . In other words they are owned by senators if they want to get that star. Also generals since world war 11 are over-rated. Guess what a unit gets a medal for doing something outstanding and guess who else gets one and may be 200 miles away. Give me a break. John McCain served this country, served on the Armed forces committee, not counting being a prisoner of war. To have Obama and his sugorate criticiz McCain is a joke on this matter. Obama , the community organizer, the state senator from illinios and being in theUS senate for two years and spending the whole time running for president , not counting being over a committee for Afghanistan and hadn't even held one meeting Much less been to Iraq forover 900 days. I don't think there is any comparison. His credentials as a commander in chief goes about as far as Dick cheneys and Bill Clinton, both draft dodgers.

McCain is a HUGE FAKE   July 1st, 2008 12:23 am ET

Crab Selector.

YOUR JOB, IS ONE OF THE WIERDEST I HAVE EVER HEARD ABOUT(IF WHAT YOU SAY IS TRUE) and I would not want to be in your shoes in so far as making a living, but please use your stick, press down on your legs, and please DON'T COME BACK!

lil   July 1st, 2008 12:16 am ET

Dear Obama supporters,
If you disagree with something Sen Obama has said go to his web site and let him know that way he will know how you feel. PUMA supporters please just go ahead and vote for mccain it okay we still live in a country where we can make a choice and i do understand that
sen Clinton dont tell you who to vote for by the way the meaning of you
name is demeaning to women.PUMA

Sen Obama today made a speech in missiouri to explain his patriotism how many other candiate ever had to do this. They made a
big deal out of what Gen Clark said even though it was true. Sen maccain the Gop make something out of everything that Sen Obama
Says or in most cases dont say think about it. How many other canidate have been treated that way.
Have you ever seen John Mccain with a flag pen, When John Mccain
was asked if he throught Obama was patriotic he beat around bush
said some nice things but never said that Sen Obama was patriotic
People wake up there are 2 different set of rule one for mccain and
another set for Sen Obama and they are letting Mccain get away with
saying what ever he want.
Mccain make me sick and tired.

K Hussein Smith   July 1st, 2008 12:15 am ET

Let's stick to the issues that matter to all Americans instead of trying to make political points that further divide us.

Obama for America and America for Obama!!!

lizfor hillary clinton   July 1st, 2008 12:12 am ET

just as i suspected..barack obama making stuff up again…come on don't you all get it he is bla bla bla

Tim, Boston MA   July 1st, 2008 12:08 am ET

i dare you, neo-cons and zionists!

pull another 9/11 before the election!

or face the war crimes tribunal!

Tim, Boston MA   July 1st, 2008 12:07 am ET

seriously, being shot down CAN'T possibly quaLIFY mccain a presidential material.

face the truth! it will set you free at last!

Michael G- Ventura ca   July 1st, 2008 12:03 am ET

Move On has been VERY HELPFUL to us in getting Barack elected- the ad regarding the General is one thing, but the monetary help and activism on his behalf is APPRECIATED by this particular supporter!

McCain is a HUGE FAKE   July 1st, 2008 12:02 am ET

CALLING ALL POWS

CALLING ALL POWS, IT IS TIME FOR YOU TO APPLY FOR THE HIGHEST POSITION IN THE WORLD ( SOME PEOPLE THINK)

YES FOLKS, IT IS TIME FOR ALL OF THE PEOPLE OF THE NAVAL FORCES, WHO SERVED IN THE NAVAL FORCES WITH SEN, McCAIN TO APPLY FOR THE POSITION OF,,,,,,,,,,PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A……….ESPECIALLY IF YOU WERE A POW!…. THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO STAND UP FOR YOUR COUNTRY!

Maine for Move On   July 1st, 2008 12:02 am ET

I'm not excited about this news from the Obama Camp…. it only spells more business as usual in Washington.

VLK   July 1st, 2008 12:01 am ET

To Obama or Die…Thank you for proving that the youth of America today have no idea what's going on. If you want to support Obama because your favorite musician does, then you clearly need to go to school and learn about history and government.

james   July 1st, 2008 12:00 am ET

Moveon is nothing but a Soro's adhoc leftist group. Screw'em!

VLK   June 30th, 2008 11:58 pm ET

Just how much Senate experience does Barack Obama have in terms of actual work days? Not much. From the time Barack Obama was sworn in as a United States Senator, to the time he announced he was forming a Presidential exploratory committee, he logged 143 days of experience in the Senate. That's how many days the Senate was actually in session and working.
After 143 days of work experience, Obama believed he was ready to be Commander In Chief, Leader of the Free World

Ndidi   June 30th, 2008 11:56 pm ET

Obama is simply a breathe of fresh air sweeping accross this great nation. He is here to stay.
We need a change. Republicans, please lets give him a landslide win.
Enough….
President obama….I salute you…

cyntia   June 30th, 2008 11:54 pm ET

I understand what happened here.
I am sure Obama talked to Moveon.org behind closed doors ( as he did for Nafta with canadians) and told them: " Guys, don't worry, I am one of you, I still thinking as you but I'll have to criticize you a little in order to be elected.
And guys understood and will still support him 100%.
He is a master of hypocricy - this is the change you can believe in!!
CNN, plz post this

Emma Suarez   June 30th, 2008 11:53 pm ET

Do you guys cover any other campaign but Obama's? Really, there's more to life than this guy.

Miguel   June 30th, 2008 11:40 pm ET

At least, Barack Obama had the pants to stand up to Moveon.org, unlike McCain who can't stand up to Karl Rove and the Bush Administration, and kissing up to them for Campaign cash.

Saying John McCain is guaranteed to be a better Commander in Chief in the next Presidential term is like saying that having Phil Jackson as your coach will guarantee you a Championship. It doesn't always work out. The Lakers finished second place this year.

KJ   June 30th, 2008 11:38 pm ET

Fools are made, not born.

All the lefties who have been fooled by Obama are experiencing buyers remorse. The Obamarama has been a media driven illusion.
Obama is neither qualified or electable. He's flip-flopped on FISA, NAFTA, Public Financing of Campaign, the MOVE-ON ads, etc…….

It's not too late for the Dems to redeem themselves and choose the best candidate, Hillary Rodham Clinton. Obama is simply the PRESUMPTIVE candidate at this point. Nothing is official until the late August DNC convention. Bring on a real convention with multiple ballots! A day is an eternity in politics, let the long overdue vetting of Obama finally begin! Here's hoping for a complete political implosion of Barack Obama BEFORE late August!

tj   June 30th, 2008 11:37 pm ET

CNN never post my messages becayse I am antiObama.
Obama shows his real colors.
The is cynical man - without any principles - only crowds of idiots can listen to him wih their open mouthes admiring 'CHANGE' speach.
He doesn't care about anything - he wants to be elected. Period.
And for this he 'll betray everything and everybody.
Good luck you idiots with such great leader - we already had one for 8 years

Tomas P   June 30th, 2008 11:37 pm ET

The comments that really disturb me are, in regards to Barrack Obamas race, and the idea discussed in regards to ….the question … Is the US ready for a black Presedent?

Big AL   June 30th, 2008 11:36 pm ET

I give Obama credit, and that is what we need in this country. The clowns that we have in the oval office now, have us with no credit around this world and also inside the US. McSane need to stop crying we don't need a cry baby in the oval office. But I'm also getting tried of McSane crying about people qustioning his miltary record, that is a good debate. I'm a vet but do that make me ready to be Commaner in Chief. I can find plenty of Vets on the side of the streets holding up an cardboard sign stating that they will work for food. Are they ready to ne CIC. And to end on an high note. What Gen.Clark said is true, but I see McSane and crooks an't handle the truth. He didn't say anything when him and the crack headed wife of his talking about Obama and his wife love for this country. So please!!!!!!!! Stop Crying….

McCain is a HUGE FAKE   June 30th, 2008 11:35 pm ET

YES FOLKS, I HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT SEN. McCAIN IS A HUGE FAKE!

I THINK THAT WHEN AMERICANS REALLY DIG INTO HIS NAVAL RECORDS, (I MEAN ALL OF THE HUNDREDS OF MISSING PAGES) THEY WILL FIND OUT THAT JOHN McCAIN IS A TOTAL FAKE!

dictator   June 30th, 2008 11:31 pm ET

we can only think of one thing : a man of character. not a flip-floper such as Mcsame who can easyly call people lousy.

Chico   June 30th, 2008 11:31 pm ET

HISPANICS FOR MCCAIN… You have it right. We will not support Obama and see our country destroyed. Those of us who settled the Southwest will not vote for the Mullato
Muselman. We know our History with the Muslim Hordes.

Cameleon   June 30th, 2008 11:25 pm ET

Who is this Barak Obama. He is like a Cameleon. Will the real Barak Obama please stand up. One week he is Mr. Liberal the next week he is throwing liberals under the bus. When will we know what his agenda for our country is going to be?

TerryDo   June 30th, 2008 11:23 pm ET

Obama is such a con artist. In order to address his own patriotism, he takes a gentle swipe at his home team, MoveOn.org,
Obama is now pretending he is upset with MoveOn.org’s controversial newspaper ad last fall that attacked the top U.S. general in Iraq, David Petraeus
He chose his meeting with H.R. Clinton in Unity.
Then Obama addressed his patriotism in Independence.
Don’t you find his campaign organizers just a little too much Martha Stewart, in the sense of mixing and matching themes to City?
I guess when he gives his speech about his Economic policy he will choose Las Vegas.
And when he gives his speech about his Foreign policy he will choose China Town.
Then when he gives his speech about his Healthcare he will chose Yellow Medicine County etc..
It is amusing to watch his “time for silly politics” because he is getting an A+ in that game.
NO ONE BELIEVE YOU OBAMA, EXCEPT THE KOOL-AID DRINKERS.
ALL YOU KOOL-AID DRINKERS, COME AND JOIN PUMA PAC AND GET THE OBAMA ANTIDOTE!

Tomas P   June 30th, 2008 11:21 pm ET

hello to ERICA and ANDERSON. Dear Anderson, Im so shocked and disgusted with the, racism, bigetry and ignorance, I saw on TV this afternoon, expressed by a "election 2008 " focus group that was questioned , by ANNENBERG PUBLIC POLICY ON C-SPAN.
It is hard to believe that these people represent, or are representative of most Americans. If they are , then I think i might have to leave this country.
The 2008 elections are so important, for so many reasons, and it is incredible to believe that their are people, who continue to use race and ethnicity as a deciding factor.
Grow up America! im disgusted with these old white conservative facist, retrograded minded people.

ImportedPatriot   June 30th, 2008 11:20 pm ET

I seem to recollect that when someone opposed George Bush's policies, they were immediately labeled unpatriotic. There's a House Representative from Southern California who opposed the war. I can't remember her full name but I think it is Kathleen Lee or something like that. She was completely villified and called un-American and un-patriotic. It seems, the Republicans are doing it again, thanks to John McCain and his truth seekers, the swift boaters.

yellowdog john   June 30th, 2008 11:20 pm ET

Clinton voted against a Senate resolution to formally condemn the group, while Obama specifically avoided voting either way on the resolution.

The gutless wonder!

I swear to — , the only reason I will be voting for Obama is because of the Supreme Court, That is it.

They don't call them yellow dogs for nothing.

Henry E. Lowe   June 30th, 2008 11:20 pm ET

How does a degenerate gambler and womanizer like Bill Bennett get to impugn the character and legitimate questions of a bonafide war hero like Gen. Wesley Clark? Bennett kept throwing around "honorable and character" like he OWNED them Anderson, and YOU let him get away with it. In fact, YOU had this DIShonorable, shady character Bill Bennett on YOUR show perpetrating a FRAUD! Does that reflect on YOUR show's integrity? You doggone right it does!

Ilona Proud Canadian   June 30th, 2008 11:18 pm ET

Proud American,

Thank you! I AGREE 100% BARACK IS A TRUE GENTLEMAN , AND HE IS 100% AMERICAN!

TO ALL THE NOBAMAS, GUESS WHAT? WE KNOW WHO/WHAT IS RELEVANT, AND IT IS NOT OBAMA BASHERS!

PROUD TO BE A BARACK SUPPORTER   June 30th, 2008 11:13 pm ET

FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY ADULT LIFE, I AM PROUD TO VOTE DEMOCRATIC! GO OBAMA !!

Rob from TN   June 30th, 2008 11:12 pm ET

It's amazing to me how people (probably the majority of people reading this blog right now), who have never served a day in combat criticize a man who not only went to war, but was help captive for years! Who are you to question the war record of John McCain…at least he served his country. The only thing Obama serves is his own personal interest. Don't for one minute think Obama is looking after our best interests. What does Obama do to his close family friend, pastor, and mentor for 20 years Rev. Wright: he dumps him when it becomes politically expedient. What does Obama do to moveon.org when it becomes politically expedient: he dumps them. What will he do to you and me when it becomes politically expedient…well I guess you should see the patttern by now.

Pearl   June 30th, 2008 11:11 pm ET

IMHO, 1) MoveOn has every right to question the veracity of Gen. Petraeus' testimony, and 2) in other news of the day, Gen. Clark's observation was correct: Sen. McCain's military experience does not necessarily translate into the ability to lead as commander-in-chief. I understand that Sen. Obama wants to be POSITIVE, but there also needs to be space for the truth, even when it is uncomfortable.

Lisa   June 30th, 2008 11:10 pm ET

I'm shock people from California are voting for Barack when Hillary clearly won that state.

Mary   June 30th, 2008 11:08 pm ET

Now Senator Obama has tossed Move On.org under the bus—after all that organization done for him. Who will be next, the DNC, the suplerdelegates, Bill Clinton? Don't think we can trust that candidate.

Tyrone   June 30th, 2008 11:07 pm ET

Jan,

No one can pin anyone down on a situation such as this. Hopefully Sen. Obama will be the next President of the good old U.S.A. but guess what? Do you realize the absolute mess that he will inherit? Please God I would never want to be in the position of the President of the U.S.A in 2009. THE ONLY PERSON WHO WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE IN THIS POSITION IS SOMEONE WHO IS ANTI-A MERICAN!

America is in total chaos. I cannot see how they are going to pull themselves out of this MESS. I think that Barack can be the way, but there is so much racism in America today that I doubt they are capable of taking advantage of this opportunity!

Sweetie   June 30th, 2008 11:07 pm ET

Our Nation or Obamanation.
Speech on patriotism, but effectively blocks the voices of democrats in Florida. Hope or Joke. His and the DNC unity is my PUMA.
Count all the votes, dont play politics with Michigan.or we will speak loud in November.
Nobama = vote 4 Mc Cain

Glad to be an Independent   June 30th, 2008 11:06 pm ET

Just because he points out that MoveOn.org does not mean he rejects their support. Obama is pointing out the type of politics he does not like. A true leader stands on principle whether it is friend or foe. Give Obama credit for standing on principle.

Abby   June 30th, 2008 11:05 pm ET

Move on.org - thought they gave obama Millions of bucks!!!
Guess yet another group he does not need - he uses people for political gain - then ditches them. Rev. Wright, - remember him??
What goes around - comes around!

Aaron Williams   June 30th, 2008 11:04 pm ET

He's the protege of Zbigniew Brzeziński. He might look young and fresh but it's business as usual. Every election we line up for our partisan slogans and servile flattery, when we get little to no representation from our government, because they threw us overboard thirty years ago. The two party system is a joke, two sides of the same bought and paid for coin. The false left/right paradigm that big brother and the main stream media bashes into your skull everyday serves no other purpose than to distract and indoctrinate, except CNN lol. We are dancing the congo line off a cliff, and evidently we'll be waving our made in China flags and giving them a standing ovation till the bitter end. Undereducated egos and insecure arrogance are killing this country, and we're within a pen stroke of complete despotism. Period.

Molly   June 30th, 2008 11:03 pm ET

To the obama or die person:
We are electing the President of the UNITED States - NOT a rock star from BET Awards. We need a President for ALL america - NOT just the "young" guys. By the way, how much $$$$ have you donated to your cause???? Ask your parents - and grandparents - I think they might have other ideas on who is QUALIFIED to lead our country - your guy is NOT.

Lisa   June 30th, 2008 11:03 pm ET

I'm sad that Obama supporters belong to a cult.

Franky   June 30th, 2008 11:02 pm ET

HA!!!! Don't worry, Senator McCain has it like that too, LOL!!! Is like they have things in common! LOL!!!

Josh   June 30th, 2008 11:01 pm ET

K. Hussein,

"so now we're attacking obama for having independent thoughts??"

Just keep telling yourself that; you and your fellow left wingers are always the victims! That is the liberal thing to do, blame someone else. That is EXACTLY what this country does not need, paranoid conspiracy theorists! I would ENCOURAGE you to do exaclty what you ENCOURAGE, and think for yourself!

Obama is clearly flip flopping and has done so multiple times before and sice he became the "presumptive nominee" (e.g. Rev Wright, Clark) but you're are so blinded by the shiny gold, false idol that he is that you can't see it!

-Obama is like a pop song on the radio that you can't get out of your head because it is played over and over on the radio. Its a terrible song, but its kinda catchy!

Jack   June 30th, 2008 10:59 pm ET

P Diddy - NOW that is an endorsement for our President!!!
To obama or die in DC - you and your friends are fools!!!!
Who really cares what BET people have to say - can they think?????
It is these types comments - from people like you that make the rest of Americans vote for anybody BUT obama! We are educated and THINK about our vote - we do not vote because BET tells us who they want. I think the SMART Americans have you out numbered - by the MILLIONS!!!!
Obama is an Arrogant, Radical Fraud - and is NOT qualified to lead our country!!!

K   June 30th, 2008 10:58 pm ET

" Clinton voted against a Senate resolution to formally condemn the group, while Obama specifically avoided voting either way on the resolution."

HAHA, thats per usual Ob ama. Don't vote on difficult issues or vote "present."

Hmmm . . .   June 30th, 2008 10:56 pm ET

The AOl Straw Poll – REAL people voting REALTIME: June 27-July 4: 147,184 total votes cast: Obama 38%, McCain 62%

Raghu   June 30th, 2008 10:55 pm ET

Wow, I don't think ANYONE has denied the help of these small organizations.

shannon   June 30th, 2008 10:54 pm ET

so who won't Obama throw under the bus? is his wife next?

Jeff long   June 30th, 2008 10:52 pm ET

….while Obama specifically avoided voting either way on the resolution.

LOL!!!! Don't push the red button!!!! Obama is such a chicken!!

FRED, ATLANTA GA   June 30th, 2008 10:51 pm ET

I really can't wait and looking forward to OBAMA being SWORNED in! So we can take care of the serious issues going on in this country instead of talking about this BS news.

OBAMA 08/12 YES WE CAN & YES WE WILL!!

Jeff Long   June 30th, 2008 10:50 pm ET

@OBAMA OR DIE…..Washington DC

JOHN KERRY LOST YOU IDIOT!!!!!!! EVEN VOTE OR DIE COULDN'T HELP HIM WIN!!!! YOUR MAKING YOUR RACE LOOK LIKE A BUNCH OF RACIST IDIOTS. Yeah, im yelling, so what?

lexel   June 30th, 2008 10:42 pm ET

Hmm….I noted some lengthy PUMA blogs in here.Pretty sad I would say that such organization exist without their candidate's backing. The credibilty of such organization gets minimized and Hillary Clinton's message gets belittled (if they really, really think about the consequences). This questions their own motivation in pursuing such propaganda.

Democrat for Big Mac   June 30th, 2008 10:41 pm ET

Thats called throwing anyone and everyone under the bus for personal gains.

BrokerDealer   June 30th, 2008 10:40 pm ET

This is garbage. Wes has it right. I'm sick of Barack rejecting what he knows is right. The man simply replied when forced to by the host.

Tyrone   June 30th, 2008 10:40 pm ET

Lieberman is a JOHN McCAIN YES MAN.
Lieberman is a SUCK UP OF THE WORST KIND!

Lieberman is the personification of all that is low down and disgusting, he will try any and everything to be in the limelight! Little does he realize that John McCain's Naval Service was never the stuff of LIFETIME HEROES!

Jody   June 30th, 2008 10:39 pm ET

Why didn't BO take a "swipe" at all his supporters that spewed SEXIST remarks during the primary?

So, sexist support is ok, but supporters aren't allowed to talk about McCain's military record or General Petraeus's actions in Iraq.

Defend the military, ignore misogyny. Way to go, Obama!

Beatriz Perez-Sanchez   June 30th, 2008 10:39 pm ET

Ralph Nader was right. Obama is talking whiter all the time.

YES WE CAN + YES WE WILL= DEMS IN WHITE HOUSE   June 30th, 2008 10:37 pm ET

Now there you go yet again. I do not think Obama was taking a swipe at this group he was merely stating his personal opinion on the subject of patriotism. Sen Obama realizes that he can not control the views or opinions of these groups or Mr. Clark.

Personally I think Clark should be commended for speaking the very truth that many of us know, some to timid to say and then there is the most that do not have to public attention to make their thoughts known. JUST BECAUSE JOHN McCAIN WAS IN THE MILITARY DOES NOT QUALIFY HIM TO BE COMMANDER IN CHIEF.

HIS ENTIRE MILITARY CAREER WAS A SERIES OF BLUNDERS AND LIES! HE FORFEITHED HIS STATUS OF HERO WHEN HE BECAME A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY, THUS REDUCING HIS STATUS TO POW SURVIVOR ONLY! HE DID NOT EARN THE NAME SONGBIRD FOR NOTHING IN FACT HIS DEVULGING OF TRUTHFUL INTELLIGENCE CAUSED LIVES!

HEROES SAVE LIVES AT THE COST OF THEIR OWN, JOHN McCAIN COST LIVES TO MAKE HIS OWN BETTER!

WHERE ARE ALL OF THESE POW'S THAT KNEW HIM WHY AREN'T THEY OUT NOW TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT MR. JOHN McCAIN? COULD IT BE BECAUSE THEY GOT SILENCED DURING ONE OF McCAIN'S OTHER BIDS FOR THE WHITE HOUSE. BY THE MEDIA!?? THEY ARE HOWEVER ON YOU TUBE!

only 4 hillary   June 30th, 2008 10:34 pm ET

Yep, he throws another under the Bus….
I don't at all care for MoveOn anyway.

But really, Obama does one thing and says another while behind the cameras and the public he will say "don't worry about what I'm going to say, it's just politics". He and his thug supporters are disgraceful extremists. It is the generation of "it's about me and my self-righteous views".

PUMA PUMA PUMA PAC!!!! Hillary supporters NEVER forget what really happened. They turned their backs on you and put all their bets on their golden boy with very poor judgment.

WOULDN'T VOTE FOR YOUR BOY IF YOU HELD A GUN TO MY HEAD.

dennis from chicago   June 30th, 2008 10:33 pm ET

i hear o bama is going to england. yeah i here he is going to be knighted…….wedgewood blue coat of arms no doubt……do not get fooled again by a man of little experience look at the george bush episode…..vote with your brain not your aspirations of false hope

PUMA-SF   June 30th, 2008 10:33 pm ET

Obama is a joke and so is his candidacy. He still remains unqualified to even run for president much less hold the office. I will not vote for him. If the SD's and the DNC do not come to their senses then my vote will go to McCain.

PUMA POWER

Voice inside your head.   June 30th, 2008 10:33 pm ET

-How much money went un-accounted for in Iraq?
-How much money can the American tax payer afford to continue spending?
-Why can't the greatest military on earth capture Osama Bin Laden?

What will happen if U.S. troops remain in Iraq?
ANSWER: American tax payers continue to spend billions.

What will happen if U.S. troops are removed from Iraq?
ANSWER: NOBODY KNOWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Obama wants to withdraw troops from Iraq and McCain wants troops to remain inside Iraq………………………………………………………..

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