Obama is true to his words in that he wants to be president of ALL Americans.. not just blacks, or the left, or any particular group of people. A true leader doesn't run w/ the pack; he's able to constructively criticize what he feels is not good or beneficial to the WHOLE. This country has such a diverse group of people each w/ their respective strong feelings and beliefs.. he can't please every single one.. the best he can do is look at what is fair and good for the entire country in the bigger picture.. and not just for today or tommorow but in the long run.

Hey Delta 9-

Are you such a simpleton that this is how you would explain a liberal?

Clearly you are a right wing nut. Obama is going to increase taxes for those making over $250,000. The truth is that the majority of people making that much are just fine. They have little to no debt, they are making ends meet. They are driving heir suv's whereever they want, with no concern of making mortgage payments.

And for the average American (those maing less than $250,000 (family) or $200,000 (single)) A TAX REDUCTION!!!

Those are the facts. The wealthy should be paying more in taxes. The elite are the ones who make policy and spend our tax money (and vote for wars).

Your simplistic views are inaccurate at best!

I don't trust Obama and NEVER WILL. I will not vote for him either.

See? There you go? He's slamming people who are supporting them for doing politics the old and sleazy way. Another example out of many others.

All of you Obama haters posting here sound like complete idiots repeating false rumors and showing how stupid you really are. All it takes it few minutes to do some simple research and yet you continue to repeat false rumors and lies. You haters are either lazy or immoral depending on your motives here.

He's just now doing this…….What was he waiting on…..????…Obama see no change in Obama then i see in Bush….

The desperation from many Republicans here is almost palatable. Que paso a su fiesta?

It seems conservatives are using the same ole fear & smear campaigning ploys, since they are not offering much in the ways of ideas. Their divisive attempts are simply sad, yet transparently amusing at the same time (i.e. "PUMA"). No wonder I left the Republican Party.

Obama '08
Si se puede!

Roger….I admire your intentions to stand for what you believe is right, but I think you have been swollowing the falsehoods put out by the Clinton campaign. Yes, she was the presumptive nominee for a long time, but she lost. Obama got the most votes, delegates, states, etc. Clinton played the race card, the gender card, the tears, etc. No one selected Obama..he won fair and square. I'm sorry your candidate did not win and you are so upset about it, but honestly, I think you are going overboard. You are thinking of Bill's administration and thinking Hill could recreate that time. Look at it logically…Bill was not that great. Our economy was already recovering when he took office and it was fired by the dot com boom not by anything Bill did. Why not help this country out by starting a movement to aleviate this country's debt….set up a donation page specifically for the national debt repayment and ask every citizen to contribute. If we each gave $10.00 it would make a substantial dent.

While I am pleasantly surprised that he has come out against moveon, he could have done this with a vote in the senate but failed to show any leadership by sitting out the vote, just like all the times he voted "present" in Illinois. Moveon is a hate group and should be formally listed as so. No member or supporter of Moveon should ever be allowed to criticize any far right hate group b/c they are the same thing, and the fact that they can't see this shows me how ignorant they are.

Can't you see the plan? Obama's people go out and say horrible things about other people and then Obama comes in and shoots them down to make himself look like such a fine fellow. It is the Obama strategy to make BO look good, you fools.

If Obama is willing to as you say LJ and "smack the hand that feeds him" then how can you argue "he will say anything to anyone" to get elected?

Obama doesn't do or say anything to anyone, he is willing to disagree strongly, even with those close to him and risk their anger if he feels strongly about something. Moveon is a big organization, but I'm banking that the majority will respect that kind of honesty and keep backing him. I know I will.

Lavallette, NJ July 1st, 2008 9:15 am ET

I am scared of Barack Hussein Obama.

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And I'm scared of you for spreading hate.

As a Hillary Democrat, I absolutely love the ticket of John McCain and Mitt Romney. I strongly urge John to ask Mitt to be his running mate. Hillary Democrats will support this ticket enthusiastically in November.

Now, this will be the first for me. I don't agree with Barack on this one. We need MOVEON.ORG!!!!

You want to vote for a man who voted against MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY in his state a vote against that day is a vote against civil rights it is not a black thing it is a people is thing everyone has civil rights gay,white,hispanic and black. So PLEASE PEOPLE LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE McCAIN HAS BEEN RUNNING FOR OFFICE SINCE 2000.

Swallowed up in minutae. This kind of silly bickering is not going to help our country one iota.
Either you have loved the last 8 years and will vote for more of the same or you want a chance of something better.
Either you agree with the Republicans (War Mongers) or you want a chance at Diplomatic solutions.
Either you are locked in a time warp or you are looking toward the future.
It doesn't get easier than that.
Obama is our last best chance.
Please don't blow it.

I'm a Moveon.org member and an Obama supporter, and I agree with him here. I think it is unfair to question the patriotism of fellow Americans who are clearly trying their best to do what they feel is right for the country.

Delta 9:

Are you even aware of the causes of the great depression?
The government did increase taxes but it also decreased government spending which we now know has a dramatic effect on consumption. We raised taxes and effectively decreased consumption by cutting government spending which played a part in the great depression upon numerous other reasons such as the overbuilding in the 20's and a lack of complete understanding of economics. Keynesian's view of economics soon came after the great depression which helped explain some of the causes as well but to insinuate that higher taxes alone led to the great depression displays a lack of knowledge about the causes and the fact that you say more government spending played a part in the great depression when in fact government spending was cut during the great depression as we as a country were more concerned with balanceing the budget and minimizing the debt. Please if people don't know what they are talking about, check your facts before you make posts that are uninformed and biased toward making a point that isn't there.

the media is selling mccain and a new war in iran whith it …..BEING A PRISONER OF WAR FOR 5 YEARS ONLY QUALIFIES YOU TO BE IN A MENTAL INSTITUTE…. MCCAIN IS NOT FIT TO BE PRESIDENT ..BOTH MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY…NO MORE PLAYING NICE THE COUNTRY'S FUTURE IS AT STAKE ….VOTE FOR NEW LEADERSHIP VOTE DEMOCRAT …BY THE WAY RALPH NADER IS AN IDIOT WE OWN BUSH BEING ELECTED TO HIM…OBAMA 08

don't know why I still turn to these comment pages. I keep hoping for discourse, but usually find persons talking past each other; and when someone does respond to another, (s)he usually turns to a personal attack or some other fallacy. I realize this medium is limited; but persons who genuinely care about, and who are capable of democratic discourse have a wonderful opportunity to learn more about others and our political landscape, as well as help others do the same. Let's engage each other more modestly, in hope of finding and promoting truth. For example, is it noble not to vote on a bill one considers politically-motivated? Is it cowardly? Is it something else? And WHY do we think so? I imagine I could learn a lot reading a list of posts modestly proposing answers to these questions and giving reasons why they agree or disagree with the reasons others post.

I don't know why I still turn to these comment pages. I keep hoping for discourse, but find usually persons talking past each other; and when someone does respond, (s)he usually turns to a personal attack or some other fallacy. I realize this medium is limited; but persons who genuinely care about, and capable of democratic discourse have a wonderful opportunity to learn more about others and our political landscape, as well as help others do the same. Let's not pretend we already know everything and engage eachother more modestly. For example, is it noble not to vote on a bill one considers politically-motivated? Is it cowardly? Is it something else? And WHY do we think so? I imagine I could learn a lot reading a list of posts modestly proposing answers to these questions and giving reasons why they agree or disagree with the reasons others post.

Now that Obama has used MoveOn through the primary, he is throwing them under the bus. Not that it matters anymore. Obama has bought and paid for the Democratic Party, and where else will Democrats go? It's all about power, and Obama is no more principled than the next guy.

I see American political is destroying a political idealist. Obama is not running for Misiaa, he is running for president and Americans are ruinning out a potential political canadidate by SEVERE questionning his religion (is religion freedon in America? is religion political separated? not for president!!), attacking his races(the truth is white American owe blacks whole lots more), questionning his patriotism, just because he is not white?! speech is not free!

JUST BECAUSE HE IS NOT WHITE SO HE IS BEING QUESTIONNING, DOUBTING, TESTING, TORTUING….. IT IS MORE UNDERSTANDABLE WHAT AMERICAN IS – no more question!!!

I like how Obama stands up to people no matter if they're for him or against him. He's not afraid on stepping on anyone's toes to make things right.

Obama smacks the hands that feed him, he will say anything to anyone for any reason come on Obama do something and stand by it.

Obama specifically avoided voting either way on the resolution.

NO WAY!!!!!! I can't believe that !!

Obama not vote on something? Say it ain't so!!!!! Here, I thought he at least voted "present", instead of totally skipping out….

I left MoveOn when the endorsed Obama – thought it was a bad choice – still do.

Sen.Obama is above the petty smear politics,even if he has to criticize an organization that supports him…..Obama 08

I am a MoveOn member and I see nothing wrong with what he said, so please spare the lies, garbage, and spreading of misinformation/propaganda.

WE ARE UNITED AND WILL TAKE BACK THIS COUNTRY.

OBAMA 08
YES WE CAN

Just try to understand Obama's position. I'm sure he has a good reason for doing this, right? I trust him. He's gonna make a great leader for America.

McCain's just gonna be Bush all over again, bringing America's ecomomy, credibility and reputation down.

In Obama's case, just remember that no human is perfect.

Sergeant Will June 30th, 2008 6:57 pm ET

i'm a soldier in the US army station in Germany, i have been Deployed 3 time and on my way to my four Deployment i am sick of Deploying and wasting my time i am so happy that Sen Obamama want to with pull the troops out cause we are burned out. Sen Mccain have no idea and is jut like Bush who want our country to pay out taxes Dollars for a useless country.

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I realize you aren't actually in the Army, but I thought I would say this anyway.

Get a new job if you don't like what you are doing.

VotePact

** Nader/Gonzalez 2008 **

The fact that Obama's willing to criticize and/or turn his back on MoveOn.org. is a win/win for him. Most people despise those people and might be moved to now support Obama. As for the move on-ers themselves, they'd rather walk over hot coals than pull the lever for McCain, so their vote is a lock for Obama, no matter how much he disses them.

Does someone can tell me why Mr. Obama didn't denounce moveon.org back in Feb when they endorsed him. Why now is this one of through under the bus thing after he uses them? This Guy is scary …………….

I am scared of Barack Hussein Obama.

All on a political stage to the right.

This man will do anything to be president. Is he related to the Clintons too?

Obama is very well known for biting the hand that feeds him–under the bus with moveon.org! what a turncoat–I will stay home rather than cast my vote for him. His agenda is beginning to look just like GWB. Clintons have forced him to be politically savvy-next thing you know, he will be hugging Bill.

I'm sure Obama discussed this with Moveon prior to making such comments, he's not known for biting the hand that feeds him.

Obama had better WAKE UP!

Rather than going around giving speeches on patriotism, he had better start making more speeches and television ads pushing the issue of the next President more than likely being able to appoint at least 3, if not 4, justices to the Supreme Court.

If McCain is elected you can be sure he will appoint the most strict, conservative, right-wing justices he can find.

The American people are lazy, apathetic, whiny and complain constatnly, but rather than tear themselves away from the idiot box and reality t.v. shows, getting off the sofa and attending protests, community meetings, writing their Congressman/woman, Senators, etc., they moan and expect someone else to do it.

Unfortuntely, an appointment to the Supreme Court if for life. No matter whether you are too old to know your right hand from your left or even your name, as in the case of William Rehnquist.

It's time Americans put up or shot up and stop whining!

Barrack Obama = Liberal
Liberal = More Goverment Spending
More Goverment Spending = Higher Taxes
Higher Taxes = Less Disposable Income
Less Disposable Income = Economic Recession
I hope you Obama supporters are ready to experience what our grandparents went through in the1920's and 1930's.

McCain '08

Either you are with us or your an enemy. Get on the Barrack bus or get run over. We are about change and if you don't like it then you are against the children, the planet, your country. If you are not a Barrack supporter by now than you are racists.

Change you can believe in. Not sure what change he is talking about and he does not have any record of making drastic changes but if he says it, it must be true.

Oh yes we can destroy the country from within. Oh yes we can.

Obama/Jimmy Carter '08.

Obama bites the bourgeois liberal hand that fed him—like we didn't see that coming!

Guns don't suicide people, people suicide people

Dont make the LIBERALS mad Obama. They are all you have!!!!!!!!!!!

good for you obama — glad you aren't just playing partisanship like all the others….

and good job handling wes clark's comments as well.

i honour a dem who doesn't just applaud everything that every other dem has to say.

I don't care about Moveon or the Clintons. Barack Obama is letting valuable time get away while John McCain is talking about issues of trade, energy, oil, etc. Barack Obama needs to start talking issues and stop wasting time answering nonsense topics. He is losing voters because they don't hear him talking about issues. If the Clintons weren't self-serving they would have backed him the day after Hillary conceded, can we be adults!!!!

Obama youre a loser

Obama's speech is pure desperate rhetoric if you look at the anti-American positions taken by Democrats. Shame on you and the Democrats who want to make this country less FREE!

HAHAHAHAHA!

So much for new politics…

How do so many people fit under one bus???

Gene:

"He did have a big misstep though in my opinion… with Gen. Clark… He shouldn't have apologized and rejected his comments. McCain keeps trying to cram his POW status as experience while constantly bashing Obama for not having any experience. Clark was dead on.. there was no apology needed… Obama should have stood up for Clark on that one and asked McCain for a real response.. not a "that's not fair" stamping his little feet response."

I completely agree with your comments on Gen. Wesley Clark. Obama needs to stop apologizing when one of his supporters speaks the truth. Prisoner of war does not equate to military experience, especially a prisoner of war who capitulated to the enemy.

If you just look at the past few years……the specific voting actions and rhetoric (we are losing the war) then the term 'unpatriotic' does indeed fit, most, if not all, of the Democrats!

Hey! MoveOn.org! Once you're there give a high 5 to Rev Wright, Obama's grandma and whole gang he's thrown under that bus!

Look, problems with politics are on both sides of the fence. Conservatives and Liberals have been really nasty to each other, using sound bites and hyperbole to be effective with very little focus on real facts.

We DO need to move away from this. Obama has to hold his supporters in check too.

this article title is deceiving and you are better than this cnn. at no time, in his statements, did he mention moveon.org.

he was talking about anyone who uses these kinds of tactics. it is so pitiful that because this man has honor and dignity, that people do their best to try to tear him down.

we faint from the sheer unfairness of this current system, but we rail against any change that is trying to made. no wonder people from other countries view us in such a negative light. we must seem like a bunch of loud-mouthed hypocrites!

I thought his virtue was his judgment?? Hejudged wrong again? Hard for me to believe? Not BO?

McCain 08′

B.O. new name should be FLIPPER

Wesley Clark is an arrogant jerk. I'm glad he's supporting the demolibs. I give no credence to anything he says.

Obama fans do not seem to understand the problem. This is a very small space to explain completely but let try. If taken literally and on face value, Gen Clark's words are rather benign. However, when taken in context with other Obama fans making negative attacks against McCain's military service and his time as a POW and Obama's insistence that he will not attack anyone's patriotism, it takes on a different meaning. We all know when Obama says he will not attack what he really means is "they attacked me." bc

Another day, another mountain out of a molehill from the media. Yawn! Can we please get back to talking about what these two guys are going to do about gas prices, jobs, infrastructure and Iraq? PLEASE???

This is why I LOVE THIS GUY! He clearly sees that the future does not lie with heavy-handed partisan attacks. MoveOn, it's time for you to move on! Why don't you and Rush and Sean go off and fight somewhere so the rest of us can rebuild productive political dialog in this nation.

He is moveon.org's boy and will fall in line. Moveon.org told him to lose the flag pin and he did. He knows who the boss is. Don't worry Mr. Soros.

Wow, let me state the obvious here. Moveon.org has supported Obama, but that does not mean that Obama must agree with every tactic they employ. I am a democrat and a liberal, but that does not mean that every decision a liberal organization makes is going to be correct.

Yes, perhaps Obama said what he said because he is trying to appeal to more centrist voters, but what he said is also in line with what he has been saying all along this campaign. What this shows is that he is sticking to his beliefs about honest, higher minded campaigning, and rejecting gutter politics.

I love how SOOOOO many people say things like they hate BO. But EVERY poll shows him up. Funny, guess the same thing happened when you ALL voted for HRC… YOU LOST. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

This is why I like this guy so much. Take on DailyKos next!

Although, I would have been happier if he did it earlier. But then he wouldn't have gotten th nod, so, smart, I guess.

These far left loons have been trying to take over the party. Clearly, with Obama in office that is not a concern.

These institutions were established to protect Clinton and all his missteps. I guess we don't need them anymore. Thank god. Good by Clintons!! The worst Pres and carpet bagging senator – EVER. Ask the people of NY if they are happy (for the job done) w/ HRC.

As long as MoveOn continues to do what they're doing and Obama keeps his distance I'm good. We need MoveOn since the swiftboaters are OFFICIALLY tied to McCain.

After giving the democrats 2 years of control of Congress, it is obvious they have no idea what they are doing.

Meanwhile, Obama has chosen to dodge voting on any bill that may be controversial.

It is obvious that he has no spine.

More and more people are beginning to realize how big of a mistake it would be to cast a vote for Obama.

Americans are not stupid, Obama will never be President.

Once again….does word really matter if there is and never will be any actions behind it?…….Obama once again played the role of being above it all, yet he did not speak out against the ad when it ran and avoided to vote the resolution against it. Its a pattern here where he continues to not take any hard stands that may jeopardize his political ambition until public opinion poll dictates one way or another. Folks, hard times comes unexpectely and a better future demands actions today in order to build a foundation for tomorrow. If an Obama presidency is one where no actions is ever taken until after public opinion polls has all be tabulated and summarized…. then what sort of change will we have…..when hindsight acts are often too little too late.

What the American people are tired of is politicians (Dems & Reps) who do not take a stand either way. If you want to lead, then do so; if not get out of the way and let those who do, do so. Not voting either way is a coward's way out. Stand up for your convictions and do what is best for all Americans, not just those to whom you pander.

Dearie me…..In keeping with the message that the good old boy bloggers have made against Hillary when one of her supporters got off message.

THE SUPPORTERS ONLY ARE FOLLOWING THE EXAMPLE SET BY THE CANDIDATE.

Does this apply to obama also. I mean Hillary was flamed and called names etc because one of her supporters said something that was considered negative to the other party. In that case I think since Hillary was held responsible, because as the good old boy bloggers said she should have kept more control of her campaign workers. Well heck de doo dah,,,how about obama keeping more track of HIS SUPPORTERS…Oh, guess that's ok he's a man and men don't have to live up to the rules they oppose on women.

To which Moveon.org replied "hey, it's all good, Obama's campaign manager called us earlier on to let us know it's all rhetoric and he has to say these things to get the bitter patriotic religious people on his side, no worries"

When the subject has so many potential and real points to worry about and ponder, then causing doubt and delving into them is worth while. Especially when you consider the future of our great Country and that of our Grandkids is at stake.

Personally, I have not seen any real evidence that says Obama was not brought up as a muslim and that his book did not say that he would side with the muslims if it came down to a choice. He speaks of his african heritage with pride and denigrates his white heritage. If that is not doubtful as to one's priorities, I don't know what is.

Obama has always spoken the TRUTH…

It is only TRUTH that will set free the United States of America…

Let us choose TRUTH!

Vote OBAMA for PRESIDENT!!!

GO Bama GO!!!

Lynn in NM said "He has to move to the center, as if the electorate is so stupid they won't remember he is one of the most liberal senators we have."
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The electorate is stupid, how do you think we ended up with 8 years of Bush?

July 15 everyone wear something Blue to show that we are proud of what Hillary accomplished in the run for presidency and even if you do not support Hillary to show that a women could do anything she wants to do.

GIVE ME A BREAK.
LIES, LIES
PHONY PROMISSES. HOW STUPID CAN PEOPLE BE ???

Obama or die ……Washington DC/Please don't downgrade your Grandfather but certainly don't include all older generations people in your statement ( I am French ,German /Irish/English I am 78 and I have been for Obama from day one .)
Down with old politics and move on with the new .
I read all campaign news of how Obama is doing and it dont take age old or young and all in between to see what has transpired in last 7 1/2 years to this country with Bush /Cheney in Iraq ,all the lives lost / wounded so helping Obama win makes what I have given small change if our brave men and woman don't end up in /Bush /Cheney/mcBush 100 years of war all started by these sleeze bags .
How could anyone in their right mind vote for McCain and for more of this McBush b ull_ _ _ _

Obama Yes We Can you are on your way to the Oval Offi e

There's an old saying that goes, "it may be hard to stand up to your enemies, but it can be even harder to stand up to your friends." Obama is showing that he has the rare courage to do this, and I find it refreshing and encouraging! It's a good sign, too. Because I definately want a president who's not afraid to tell those working under him when they're out of line. Just imagine if the current resident of the White House had shown this kind of courage over the last 7 1/2 years!

No more of the same, it's time for a change. Sorry, McCain… we're leaving the Bush Leagues, and boarding the Obama train!

OBAMA'S AND HIS LIES ABOUT PATRIOTISM IS RIDICULOUS. HIE'S DOING THE SAME THING HE DID AGAINST HILLARY. HAVE OTHER PEOPLE TO MAKE SARCASTIC REMARKS ABOUT THE OTHER CANDIDATE THEN HE HIMSELF COME OUT THE NEXT DAY TO SAY I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. THIS MAN IS A COWARD UNFIT OF THE HIGHEST OFFICE OF THE LAND. SURELY YOU PEOPLE CAN SEE OBAMA FOR WHAT HE IS. YOU CAN'T SEE A SCAM. FOR ALL THIS TO COME OUT THE DAY BEFORE OBAMA STATES HE IS GOING TO MAKE A SPEECH ON PATRIOTISM HE HAS GEN. CLARK MAKE A STATEMENT THAT McCAIN BEING IN A NAM PRISON CAMP DOES NOT GIVE HIM THE EXPERIENCE TO BE PRESIDENT. WELL I'LL TAKE McCAIN'S PRISON TERM PLUS HIS TWENTY ODD SENATORIAL YEARS AGAINST OBAMA SEVERAL MONTHS AS A SENATOR TO BE WAY MORE QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT THAN OBAMA IS. YOU WANT A MAN SUCH AS McCAIN OR DO YOU WANT A LYING SNAKE, RESKO MONEY TAKER, TERRORIST SUPPORTER, ANTI-WHITES, ANTI-CHRISTIAN, COKE HEAD HOMO OBAMA TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.

Republicans are doing what they do every election and calling the Democratic party's candidate the most liberal person ever, well…
If Obama is criticizing a highly liberal group who does some dumb things (but definitely does help the Democratic party more than it hurts it) then he is definitely not some die hard liberal. He is clearly showing to us that he will take on all of these stupid political games. The Republicans will do anything they can to destroy Democrats this year because they know they are screwed, and yet they think their old political games they played in 2004 against Kerry will work again. Americans are sick of Republican leadership and that was proven in 2006, special elections in 2008, and will be proven in the general election this year again.

It will be an abomination in the eyes of God if Obama gets the presidency. He is so anti American and so utterly liberal it's not even funny. He and those who are behind his candidacy are remaking him all over again with all this patriotism talk…..he is a puppet to those who hate the freedoms of this country and they will use him because he is willing to do what they want to become President. I never thought I would be saying this but Hillary is less scary than B. Hussein Obama. Like sheep to the slaughter all these Obamites are hanging onto this man's every word although he is not saying much of anything. These foolish people would follow this man over a cliff because they are so blind. God forbid this arrogant and vain man called Hussein Obama and his hate filled wife get in office.

Ahmadinejad said today they are digging and preparing 350,000 graves for whomever attacks them. Meanwhile, NATO is ready, China is ready, the US is ready and we know Israel is ready…………………………..
bottom line, Obama is toast. No one except a pure moron is going to elect Obama to protect us from Iran… Game Over!

Obama is such a phony. He is working thru Clark to fight McCain's claim to having more experience. Then he condemns it but Clark is still working on his campaign. McCain is not only talking about his POW experience but his many years in the Senate. McCain is the one who has actually crossed the isle to work with Dems. Obama has voted 98% of the time with his party during his short time in the US Senate. This is when he has bothered to vote at all. McCain knows how the Congress works alot better than Obama so he knows how to get things done. Change is a nice concept but it takes working within the system to get it started. Obama doesn't have the know how to do this based on his experience.
Funny how McCain basically refused to comment on Clarks comment except to say that he wasn't going to run that kind of dirty campaign. The guy, Obama, who is supposedly against POLITICS AS USUAL is the one who is playing them as usual. While McCain is not stooping to his level. McCain is keeping his word, Obama is not. Somehow that doesn't surprise me.

Obama is a preacher, period. He belongs in a pulpit, not the White House. He weakens our International appearance and only brings the bling.

Don't bite the hand… It wouldn't surprise me if moveon bit back…so now to add to the list we have the GOP taking hit as well as moveon.org etc… well get ready for the battle.

As a would be head of state, It''s a good ting than Obama is not hung up with small stuff.

MoveOn.org plays a major role in motivating the more extremist branches of the DNC. That said, they do make inappropriate moves, but so do all political groups of all platforms.

Obama's criticism of one tactic does nothing but indicate once more that he is taking up the reigns as the leader of the DNC. Good for him.

An aside directed toward Texas Trail Dog: your comment would be a lot more meaningful if you understood the simple difference between "your" and "you're." Can we say "sixth grade grammar?"

Let's all thank the Republicans for the great work they've done in the last 7.5 years (or the Rep congress of 1994-2006) by sending them down in flames in November. They had their chance and they blew it. They could have accomplished so much but, no, they had to strut their machismo and start an optional war. They had to prove they're the party of fiscal restraint by increasing pork projects by 600%. They had to prove they're the party of family values by getting caught with male pages, prostitutes and men's bathrooms soliciting gay sex.

Tell them what you think of the job they did. Send them packing for 20 years.

It's funny. When going through what people say it usually only takes the first 6 words to see if any particular post is nothing more than yelling the same ol things again. Pick a side. They both do it. Sometimes I will actually read one where someone has a thoughtful thing to say,

Here's my thought: A general has a duty to the wishes of the current administration. Whether he agrees with his orders or not the only two choices are to carry them out or to resign. Fast forward one year if/when Obama is elected. When he tells his generals to start leaving Iraq then they must do so, regardless if they think its a bad idea. If this is the case just wait till these generals are attacked from the right wing as traitors. They will be just as wrong as MoveOn.org was.

Full disclosure: I am not an Obama supporter

But he was right about not voting. Congress has nothing better to do than "condemn" someone for exercising their right to free speech? And what happens if you're actions are "condemned", they take away your birthday or something?

We should pick members of Congress with a few monkeys throwing darts at names in the phone book. Couldn't do any worse.

Moveon.org is too "left-wing" to be effective? Tell me, have "moderate" Democrats been effective in challenging Bush's policies? So-called "moderates" don't even show up for the fight. Right now, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi (and Barack Obama) have granted the Bush administration over $400 for covert operations inside Iran; they have voted to expand the government's ability to spy on citizens with a warrant; and they have voted to authorize $162 billion to fund the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan – no strings attached.

Aside from MoveOn, two issues. Issue number 1: Charlie Black, Issue number 2: Vicki Iseman . . . discuss

That's what I want to know more about. Why such one-sided reporting from the media?

Where is Hillary? We need her! Its unfortunate that lately Obama has to apologize for everything. When is he going to make his agenda clear? He is such a confusing person to pin down on where he stands. I cant say much for McCain either.

How many erstwhile friends, supporters, advisers, contributors, endorsing organizations, and grandmothers–to say nothing of policy positions–has Barack Obama had to denounce, disavow, let go, chastise, or throw under the bus in just the past couple of months? And how many more are to come?

His track record hardly inspires confidence.

go obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 we love yuo. i am a college student and i look at you as my future please please win this election. obama 08!!!!!!

Our Country is dying folks! Most of our youth is on drugs and free sex and with bad role models like Obama to lead them into a false state of mind, no wonder why thier all for a person who is out of control. Today I watched CNN news were Obama and his campain attacted Mr. McCain and the Miliary, saying that when a man gives years of his youth and life fighting for your Country you love,Obama state's that mean's nothing?? The youth and young people of this Nation better put down the drugs and beer cans and stop going to the all night rap awards before the find out they have another War in thier future! Obama will start more wars then he will ever end, don't you folks read the News paper's and see that Iran hate's us.

The Limbaugh's and the swift boaters of the right are pigs that play the game by throwing mud to democratic candidates. Well, we at MoveOn are a new kind of pig that also know how to play the game and like it. We just fight fire with fire. We do not expect any thanks. Our reward is driving republicans out or power.

I wil not support Obama if he does not ask Hilary to be his running mate. It appears as if he is using her to gain votes that people had earmarked for her. If he was truly the serious contender, he wouldn't need her help. She needs to be his VP, if he stands a chance of winning.

So the "agent of change" is in reality the changing agent………….

I love how it was priorly mentioned that Obama would say anything to win the election…

I think it would be wise to mention McCain changing his amnesty ideals. How he went from a more liberal stance to one which would satisfy the Republican base he so required during the election…

In fact, that seems like solid evidence to say McCain, is the candidate whom will say anything to win the election.

To add a comment about Wesley Clark. Generals are appointed through a political progress in the senate . In other words they are owned by senators if they want to get that star. Also generals since world war 11 are over-rated. Guess what a unit gets a medal for doing something outstanding and guess who else gets one and may be 200 miles away. Give me a break. John McCain served this country, served on the Armed forces committee, not counting being a prisoner of war. To have Obama and his sugorate criticiz McCain is a joke on this matter. Obama , the community organizer, the state senator from illinios and being in theUS senate for two years and spending the whole time running for president , not counting being over a committee for Afghanistan and hadn't even held one meeting Much less been to Iraq forover 900 days. I don't think there is any comparison. His credentials as a commander in chief goes about as far as Dick cheneys and Bill Clinton, both draft dodgers.

Crab Selector.

YOUR JOB, IS ONE OF THE WIERDEST I HAVE EVER HEARD ABOUT(IF WHAT YOU SAY IS TRUE) and I would not want to be in your shoes in so far as making a living, but please use your stick, press down on your legs, and please DON'T COME BACK!

Dear Obama supporters,
If you disagree with something Sen Obama has said go to his web site and let him know that way he will know how you feel. PUMA supporters please just go ahead and vote for mccain it okay we still live in a country where we can make a choice and i do understand that
sen Clinton dont tell you who to vote for by the way the meaning of you
name is demeaning to women.PUMA

Sen Obama today made a speech in missiouri to explain his patriotism how many other candiate ever had to do this. They made a
big deal out of what Gen Clark said even though it was true. Sen maccain the Gop make something out of everything that Sen Obama
Says or in most cases dont say think about it. How many other canidate have been treated that way.
Have you ever seen John Mccain with a flag pen, When John Mccain
was asked if he throught Obama was patriotic he beat around bush
said some nice things but never said that Sen Obama was patriotic
People wake up there are 2 different set of rule one for mccain and
another set for Sen Obama and they are letting Mccain get away with
saying what ever he want.
Mccain make me sick and tired.

Let's stick to the issues that matter to all Americans instead of trying to make political points that further divide us.

Obama for America and America for Obama!!!

just as i suspected..barack obama making stuff up again…come on don't you all get it he is bla bla bla

i dare you, neo-cons and zionists!

pull another 9/11 before the election!

or face the war crimes tribunal!

seriously, being shot down CAN'T possibly quaLIFY mccain a presidential material.

face the truth! it will set you free at last!

Move On has been VERY HELPFUL to us in getting Barack elected- the ad regarding the General is one thing, but the monetary help and activism on his behalf is APPRECIATED by this particular supporter!

CALLING ALL POWS

CALLING ALL POWS, IT IS TIME FOR YOU TO APPLY FOR THE HIGHEST POSITION IN THE WORLD ( SOME PEOPLE THINK)

YES FOLKS, IT IS TIME FOR ALL OF THE PEOPLE OF THE NAVAL FORCES, WHO SERVED IN THE NAVAL FORCES WITH SEN, McCAIN TO APPLY FOR THE POSITION OF,,,,,,,,,,PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A……….ESPECIALLY IF YOU WERE A POW!…. THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO STAND UP FOR YOUR COUNTRY!

I'm not excited about this news from the Obama Camp…. it only spells more business as usual in Washington.

To Obama or Die…Thank you for proving that the youth of America today have no idea what's going on. If you want to support Obama because your favorite musician does, then you clearly need to go to school and learn about history and government.

Moveon is nothing but a Soro's adhoc leftist group. Screw'em!

Just how much Senate experience does Barack Obama have in terms of actual work days? Not much. From the time Barack Obama was sworn in as a United States Senator, to the time he announced he was forming a Presidential exploratory committee, he logged 143 days of experience in the Senate. That's how many days the Senate was actually in session and working.
After 143 days of work experience, Obama believed he was ready to be Commander In Chief, Leader of the Free World

Obama is simply a breathe of fresh air sweeping accross this great nation. He is here to stay.
We need a change. Republicans, please lets give him a landslide win.
Enough….
President obama….I salute you…

I understand what happened here.
I am sure Obama talked to Moveon.org behind closed doors ( as he did for Nafta with canadians) and told them: " Guys, don't worry, I am one of you, I still thinking as you but I'll have to criticize you a little in order to be elected.
And guys understood and will still support him 100%.
He is a master of hypocricy – this is the change you can believe in!!
CNN, plz post this

Do you guys cover any other campaign but Obama's? Really, there's more to life than this guy.

At least, Barack Obama had the pants to stand up to Moveon.org, unlike McCain who can't stand up to Karl Rove and the Bush Administration, and kissing up to them for Campaign cash.

Saying John McCain is guaranteed to be a better Commander in Chief in the next Presidential term is like saying that having Phil Jackson as your coach will guarantee you a Championship. It doesn't always work out. The Lakers finished second place this year.

Fools are made, not born.

All the lefties who have been fooled by Obama are experiencing buyers remorse. The Obamarama has been a media driven illusion.
Obama is neither qualified or electable. He's flip-flopped on FISA, NAFTA, Public Financing of Campaign, the MOVE-ON ads, etc…….

It's not too late for the Dems to redeem themselves and choose the best candidate, Hillary Rodham Clinton. Obama is simply the PRESUMPTIVE candidate at this point. Nothing is official until the late August DNC convention. Bring on a real convention with multiple ballots! A day is an eternity in politics, let the long overdue vetting of Obama finally begin! Here's hoping for a complete political implosion of Barack Obama BEFORE late August!

CNN never post my messages becayse I am antiObama.
Obama shows his real colors.
The is cynical man – without any principles – only crowds of idiots can listen to him wih their open mouthes admiring 'CHANGE' speach.
He doesn't care about anything – he wants to be elected. Period.
And for this he 'll betray everything and everybody.
Good luck you idiots with such great leader – we already had one for 8 years

The comments that really disturb me are, in regards to Barrack Obamas race, and the idea discussed in regards to ….the question … Is the US ready for a black Presedent?

I give Obama credit, and that is what we need in this country. The clowns that we have in the oval office now, have us with no credit around this world and also inside the US. McSane need to stop crying we don't need a cry baby in the oval office. But I'm also getting tried of McSane crying about people qustioning his miltary record, that is a good debate. I'm a vet but do that make me ready to be Commaner in Chief. I can find plenty of Vets on the side of the streets holding up an cardboard sign stating that they will work for food. Are they ready to ne CIC. And to end on an high note. What Gen.Clark said is true, but I see McSane and crooks an't handle the truth. He didn't say anything when him and the crack headed wife of his talking about Obama and his wife love for this country. So please!!!!!!!! Stop Crying….

YES FOLKS, I HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT SEN. McCAIN IS A HUGE FAKE!

I THINK THAT WHEN AMERICANS REALLY DIG INTO HIS NAVAL RECORDS, (I MEAN ALL OF THE HUNDREDS OF MISSING PAGES) THEY WILL FIND OUT THAT JOHN McCAIN IS A TOTAL FAKE!

we can only think of one thing : a man of character. not a flip-floper such as Mcsame who can easyly call people lousy.

HISPANICS FOR MCCAIN… You have it right. We will not support Obama and see our country destroyed. Those of us who settled the Southwest will not vote for the Mullato
Muselman. We know our History with the Muslim Hordes.

Who is this Barak Obama. He is like a Cameleon. Will the real Barak Obama please stand up. One week he is Mr. Liberal the next week he is throwing liberals under the bus. When will we know what his agenda for our country is going to be?

Obama is such a con artist. In order to address his own patriotism, he takes a gentle swipe at his home team, MoveOn.org,
Obama is now pretending he is upset with MoveOn.org’s controversial newspaper ad last fall that attacked the top U.S. general in Iraq, David Petraeus
He chose his meeting with H.R. Clinton in Unity.
Then Obama addressed his patriotism in Independence.
Don’t you find his campaign organizers just a little too much Martha Stewart, in the sense of mixing and matching themes to City?
I guess when he gives his speech about his Economic policy he will choose Las Vegas.
And when he gives his speech about his Foreign policy he will choose China Town.
Then when he gives his speech about his Healthcare he will chose Yellow Medicine County etc..
It is amusing to watch his “time for silly politics” because he is getting an A+ in that game.
NO ONE BELIEVE YOU OBAMA, EXCEPT THE KOOL-AID DRINKERS.
ALL YOU KOOL-AID DRINKERS, COME AND JOIN PUMA PAC AND GET THE OBAMA ANTIDOTE!

hello to ERICA and ANDERSON. Dear Anderson, Im so shocked and disgusted with the, racism, bigetry and ignorance, I saw on TV this afternoon, expressed by a "election 2008 " focus group that was questioned , by ANNENBERG PUBLIC POLICY ON C-SPAN.
It is hard to believe that these people represent, or are representative of most Americans. If they are , then I think i might have to leave this country.
The 2008 elections are so important, for so many reasons, and it is incredible to believe that their are people, who continue to use race and ethnicity as a deciding factor.
Grow up America! im disgusted with these old white conservative facist, retrograded minded people.

I seem to recollect that when someone opposed George Bush's policies, they were immediately labeled unpatriotic. There's a House Representative from Southern California who opposed the war. I can't remember her full name but I think it is Kathleen Lee or something like that. She was completely villified and called un-American and un-patriotic. It seems, the Republicans are doing it again, thanks to John McCain and his truth seekers, the swift boaters.

Clinton voted against a Senate resolution to formally condemn the group, while Obama specifically avoided voting either way on the resolution.

The gutless wonder!

I swear to — , the only reason I will be voting for Obama is because of the Supreme Court, That is it.

They don't call them yellow dogs for nothing.

How does a degenerate gambler and womanizer like Bill Bennett get to impugn the character and legitimate questions of a bonafide war hero like Gen. Wesley Clark? Bennett kept throwing around "honorable and character" like he OWNED them Anderson, and YOU let him get away with it. In fact, YOU had this DIShonorable, shady character Bill Bennett on YOUR show perpetrating a FRAUD! Does that reflect on YOUR show's integrity? You doggone right it does!

Proud American,

Thank you! I AGREE 100% BARACK IS A TRUE GENTLEMAN , AND HE IS 100% AMERICAN!

TO ALL THE NOBAMAS, GUESS WHAT? WE KNOW WHO/WHAT IS RELEVANT, AND IT IS NOT OBAMA BASHERS!

FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY ADULT LIFE, I AM PROUD TO VOTE DEMOCRATIC! GO OBAMA !!

It's amazing to me how people (probably the majority of people reading this blog right now), who have never served a day in combat criticize a man who not only went to war, but was help captive for years! Who are you to question the war record of John McCain…at least he served his country. The only thing Obama serves is his own personal interest. Don't for one minute think Obama is looking after our best interests. What does Obama do to his close family friend, pastor, and mentor for 20 years Rev. Wright: he dumps him when it becomes politically expedient. What does Obama do to moveon.org when it becomes politically expedient: he dumps them. What will he do to you and me when it becomes politically expedient…well I guess you should see the patttern by now.

IMHO, 1) MoveOn has every right to question the veracity of Gen. Petraeus' testimony, and 2) in other news of the day, Gen. Clark's observation was correct: Sen. McCain's military experience does not necessarily translate into the ability to lead as commander-in-chief. I understand that Sen. Obama wants to be POSITIVE, but there also needs to be space for the truth, even when it is uncomfortable.

I'm shock people from California are voting for Barack when Hillary clearly won that state.

Now Senator Obama has tossed Move On.org under the bus—after all that organization done for him. Who will be next, the DNC, the suplerdelegates, Bill Clinton? Don't think we can trust that candidate.

Jan,

No one can pin anyone down on a situation such as this. Hopefully Sen. Obama will be the next President of the good old U.S.A. but guess what? Do you realize the absolute mess that he will inherit? Please God I would never want to be in the position of the President of the U.S.A in 2009. THE ONLY PERSON WHO WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE IN THIS POSITION IS SOMEONE WHO IS ANTI-A MERICAN!

America is in total chaos. I cannot see how they are going to pull themselves out of this MESS. I think that Barack can be the way, but there is so much racism in America today that I doubt they are capable of taking advantage of this opportunity!

Our Nation or Obamanation.
Speech on patriotism, but effectively blocks the voices of democrats in Florida. Hope or Joke. His and the DNC unity is my PUMA.
Count all the votes, dont play politics with Michigan.or we will speak loud in November.
Nobama = vote 4 Mc Cain

Just because he points out that MoveOn.org does not mean he rejects their support. Obama is pointing out the type of politics he does not like. A true leader stands on principle whether it is friend or foe. Give Obama credit for standing on principle.

Move on.org – thought they gave obama Millions of bucks!!!
Guess yet another group he does not need – he uses people for political gain – then ditches them. Rev. Wright, – remember him??
What goes around – comes around!

He's the protege of Zbigniew Brzeziński. He might look young and fresh but it's business as usual. Every election we line up for our partisan slogans and servile flattery, when we get little to no representation from our government, because they threw us overboard thirty years ago. The two party system is a joke, two sides of the same bought and paid for coin. The false left/right paradigm that big brother and the main stream media bashes into your skull everyday serves no other purpose than to distract and indoctrinate, except CNN lol. We are dancing the congo line off a cliff, and evidently we'll be waving our made in China flags and giving them a standing ovation till the bitter end. Undereducated egos and insecure arrogance are killing this country, and we're within a pen stroke of complete despotism. Period.

To the obama or die person:
We are electing the President of the UNITED States – NOT a rock star from BET Awards. We need a President for ALL america – NOT just the "young" guys. By the way, how much $$$$ have you donated to your cause???? Ask your parents – and grandparents – I think they might have other ideas on who is QUALIFIED to lead our country – your guy is NOT.

I'm sad that Obama supporters belong to a cult.

HA!!!! Don't worry, Senator McCain has it like that too, LOL!!! Is like they have things in common! LOL!!!

K. Hussein,

"so now we're attacking obama for having independent thoughts??"

Just keep telling yourself that; you and your fellow left wingers are always the victims! That is the liberal thing to do, blame someone else. That is EXACTLY what this country does not need, paranoid conspiracy theorists! I would ENCOURAGE you to do exaclty what you ENCOURAGE, and think for yourself!

Obama is clearly flip flopping and has done so multiple times before and sice he became the "presumptive nominee" (e.g. Rev Wright, Clark) but you're are so blinded by the shiny gold, false idol that he is that you can't see it!

-Obama is like a pop song on the radio that you can't get out of your head because it is played over and over on the radio. Its a terrible song, but its kinda catchy!

P Diddy – NOW that is an endorsement for our President!!!
To obama or die in DC – you and your friends are fools!!!!
Who really cares what BET people have to say – can they think?????
It is these types comments – from people like you that make the rest of Americans vote for anybody BUT obama! We are educated and THINK about our vote – we do not vote because BET tells us who they want. I think the SMART Americans have you out numbered – by the MILLIONS!!!!
Obama is an Arrogant, Radical Fraud – and is NOT qualified to lead our country!!!

" Clinton voted against a Senate resolution to formally condemn the group, while Obama specifically avoided voting either way on the resolution."

HAHA, thats per usual Ob ama. Don't vote on difficult issues or vote "present."

The AOl Straw Poll – REAL people voting REALTIME: June 27-July 4: 147,184 total votes cast: Obama 38%, McCain 62%

Wow, I don't think ANYONE has denied the help of these small organizations.

so who won't Obama throw under the bus? is his wife next?

….while Obama specifically avoided voting either way on the resolution.

LOL!!!! Don't push the red button!!!! Obama is such a chicken!!

I really can't wait and looking forward to OBAMA being SWORNED in! So we can take care of the serious issues going on in this country instead of talking about this BS news.

OBAMA 08/12 YES WE CAN & YES WE WILL!!

@OBAMA OR DIE…..Washington DC

JOHN KERRY LOST YOU IDIOT!!!!!!! EVEN VOTE OR DIE COULDN'T HELP HIM WIN!!!! YOUR MAKING YOUR RACE LOOK LIKE A BUNCH OF RACIST IDIOTS. Yeah, im yelling, so what?

Hmm….I noted some lengthy PUMA blogs in here.Pretty sad I would say that such organization exist without their candidate's backing. The credibilty of such organization gets minimized and Hillary Clinton's message gets belittled (if they really, really think about the consequences). This questions their own motivation in pursuing such propaganda.

Thats called throwing anyone and everyone under the bus for personal gains.

This is garbage. Wes has it right. I'm sick of Barack rejecting what he knows is right. The man simply replied when forced to by the host.

Lieberman is a JOHN McCAIN YES MAN.
Lieberman is a SUCK UP OF THE WORST KIND!

Lieberman is the personification of all that is low down and disgusting, he will try any and everything to be in the limelight! Little does he realize that John McCain's Naval Service was never the stuff of LIFETIME HEROES!

Why didn't BO take a "swipe" at all his supporters that spewed SEXIST remarks during the primary?

So, sexist support is ok, but supporters aren't allowed to talk about McCain's military record or General Petraeus's actions in Iraq.

Defend the military, ignore misogyny. Way to go, Obama!

Ralph Nader was right. Obama is talking whiter all the time.

Now there you go yet again. I do not think Obama was taking a swipe at this group he was merely stating his personal opinion on the subject of patriotism. Sen Obama realizes that he can not control the views or opinions of these groups or Mr. Clark.

Personally I think Clark should be commended for speaking the very truth that many of us know, some to timid to say and then there is the most that do not have to public attention to make their thoughts known. JUST BECAUSE JOHN McCAIN WAS IN THE MILITARY DOES NOT QUALIFY HIM TO BE COMMANDER IN CHIEF.

HIS ENTIRE MILITARY CAREER WAS A SERIES OF BLUNDERS AND LIES! HE FORFEITHED HIS STATUS OF HERO WHEN HE BECAME A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY, THUS REDUCING HIS STATUS TO POW SURVIVOR ONLY! HE DID NOT EARN THE NAME SONGBIRD FOR NOTHING IN FACT HIS DEVULGING OF TRUTHFUL INTELLIGENCE CAUSED LIVES!

HEROES SAVE LIVES AT THE COST OF THEIR OWN, JOHN McCAIN COST LIVES TO MAKE HIS OWN BETTER!

WHERE ARE ALL OF THESE POW'S THAT KNEW HIM WHY AREN'T THEY OUT NOW TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT MR. JOHN McCAIN? COULD IT BE BECAUSE THEY GOT SILENCED DURING ONE OF McCAIN'S OTHER BIDS FOR THE WHITE HOUSE. BY THE MEDIA!?? THEY ARE HOWEVER ON YOU TUBE!

Yep, he throws another under the Bus….
I don't at all care for MoveOn anyway.

But really, Obama does one thing and says another while behind the cameras and the public he will say "don't worry about what I'm going to say, it's just politics". He and his thug supporters are disgraceful extremists. It is the generation of "it's about me and my self-righteous views".

PUMA PUMA PUMA PAC!!!! Hillary supporters NEVER forget what really happened. They turned their backs on you and put all their bets on their golden boy with very poor judgment.

WOULDN'T VOTE FOR YOUR BOY IF YOU HELD A GUN TO MY HEAD.

i hear o bama is going to england. yeah i here he is going to be knighted…….wedgewood blue coat of arms no doubt……do not get fooled again by a man of little experience look at the george bush episode…..vote with your brain not your aspirations of false hope

Obama is a joke and so is his candidacy. He still remains unqualified to even run for president much less hold the office. I will not vote for him. If the SD's and the DNC do not come to their senses then my vote will go to McCain.

PUMA POWER

-How much money went un-accounted for in Iraq?
-How much money can the American tax payer afford to continue spending?
-Why can't the greatest military on earth capture Osama Bin Laden?

What will happen if U.S. troops remain in Iraq?
ANSWER: American tax payers continue to spend billions.

What will happen if U.S. troops are removed from Iraq?
ANSWER: NOBODY KNOWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Obama wants to withdraw troops from Iraq and McCain wants troops to remain inside Iraq………………………………………………………..

……………………………………..so vote McCain?

Obama is a skunk – he is black and white and stinks up the place

So many . . . so jaded. We have a man of integrity, character, and principle to vote for in 2008. What a breath of fresh air. I'm sorry for those of you who lack the insight or intuition to recognize that. For a man of character the only "motive" is to correct what's wrong. That's it.

Obama doesn't see things as always black or white (no pun intended) Most things in life are not. One can aprove off many things in an organization, party, canidate (even spouse or child) and still find some problems in the mix. Just because some ne or organization supports you dosn't mean you are beholding to all they say or believe. He is pragmatic not ideological. This is what will keep him eclectic ,able to cross the isle, and flexible when need be. Dogmatics and people who think everthing is universal are dangerous.

Mr. Obama's consistency in dealing with issues and being vocal with his opinions or thoughts regardless if it is his supporter or not is a commendable quality. It implies a security of equality and fairness among the American people during his term if he becomes the president. Accusation of flip flopping or turning his back on his supporters is of slim chance as he only has one opinion of the issue and MoveOn.Org has chosen because of straight talks and the "time to move on" beyond President Bush's term

FIRED UP!!! READY TO GO!!!!

Funny how Obama is hit for not being strong or having integrity. He stands on principle in this speech and tells America how he feels. He tells democratic 527s to stop the BS and not even a peep from them. That is absolute leadership people.

John McCain condemns his party's 527s and they give him the finger. They do what they want to do and he just says " I can't control them". That is an absolute disaster waiting to happen.

Obama/Webb Change and Leadership we can believe in.

CNN, the link to this article states "Obama Scolds A Supporter" and is misleading. It creates unnecessary drama. It really should read "Obama shuns Moveon.org" or "Obama Scolds a Far-left and Annoying Organization."

If you listen the tape, you do not hear Obama, mention any certain person/persons in this. I do not know how MoveOn.org was included in this, unless there are two tapes

Explain CNN

I used to donate to MoveOn.com. I quit when they endorsed Obama over Hillary.

I was hoping MoveOn would remain neutral within the Democratic party, but they didn't and lost my support.

I voted as a Dem and am now a card-carrying Independent.

I happen to think my grandfather would make a terrific president. There is no subistute for experience. This Obama character has no idea how to run this country nor should he have the chance. He is a great orator but lacks any substance.

The truth will come out about Obama. Mark my word.

I don't understand why you must support every single thing that someone who supports you does. I think Obama is great but I don't like every issue that he supports. I like McCain but I won't vote for him even though I have a tremendous amount of respect for him. Just because we support someone, doesn't mean we have to be a puppet and perform for them just the way they wish. Obama has shown that he can appreciate the support of Moveon but he doesn't have to like every single thing they do and that, in my opinion, shows that he isn't "owned" by them. I'm amazed at some of the responses here–the lack of debth about the issues. We have a man running for president who speaks out against something that he doesn't like, even if that is something that comes from a supporter–why is this so bad? We don't all have to think the same way!

I guess this is the beginning of Mr. Obama's sprint to the middle ground… typical politician.

I find it disgusting that a person running for the President of the US has to prove his or her patriotism to their country. Is it because he is not white? Are people of minority background not patriotic? Do they not join the military in larger numbers than their counterparts? Is it not their right to feel either good about their government or criticize it? It makes me feel like minorities are not considered as US citizens and should be just happy with the fact that we are accepted as citizens of the USA !!

If McCain had been president ,this war in Iraq would have been long over.He,along with Senator Joe Biden made many trips over there and would appear on the sunday morning shows.Senator McCain and Biden both called on Bush to send more troops to gain control in Iraq,even before things got completely out of control.Did Idiot boy listen,and act accordingly?Of course not.His only answer was that the generals told him that they didnt need more troops.Senator Mccain is an honorable and decent man.I have never ever voted Republican in all my seventy five years.In November I will cast my vote for the honorable Senator John Mccain for my president.He has served the citizens of Arizona for many,many years.If he was not doing a good job these citizens would not have continued to vote for him to stay.That is proof enough that he is a man of honor and sterling character.I appreciate his service to my country.Those who seek to demean his sacrifice and patriotism are cowards and worse.I will work day and night and do everything I can to see him elected to the presidency.Obama is not worthy to stoop down and wipe John McCain's shoes.

Think what you would have said had he not stood up to them. Take, for example, the whole Rev Wright thing. Obama is now accused of throwing him under the bus. But what if he had said "Wright is Right, God damm america, etc. "?

Some of you just don't want to try to like the guy.

Obama/Democrats '08

Clinton/Democrats '16

Sincerely yours,
The future

As a young man, John McCain spent time in North Viet Nam as a POW being tortured for our country.

As a young man, Barack Hussein Obama spent time on the streets of Chicago doing drugs. (Read his book).

Who would make a better President of the United States of America?

Plain and simple. The more I hear and see him in action the less I trust him.

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Hey Anita from Arizona

No we don't have double digit unemployment and inflation.

Unemployment is currently at 5.5% one of the lowest rates in the past 20 years.

The inflation is currently 4.18%

Nieither figure is anywhere near double digits, even if you add them together.

Another Obama sheeple that doesn"t have a clue.

Barak and his army of liberals have lied so much they don't know where they stand on the issues. He's adopted the Democratic Party's policy of denie anything that you've done or believe that makes you look bad. Lying comes naturally to the Democratic Party's machine. "American public, don't be fooled:

Wow…. I didn't know he avoided voting on the moveon.org ad. Does he take a firm stand on any issue? If you are going to be a strong leader, you have to take a stand. Wow…

Which Obama are we talking about here? The current Obama or the one in the primary?

I would like to know how Obama's church received 15 million to support a bigot preacher he calls a friend he couldn't disavow until he politically had to. Must be nice to grease your preacher so he can afford a multimillion dollar home. Of course, it was politically convenient to have this relationship.

Then Obama's has Wesley Clark do his dirty work so he can look like he is squeeky clean.

We do need change. Support someone who has integrity:

McCain 08-12.

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Obama is using these cronies to do his dirty work and then he makes statements like these just to make him look like hi\e is above it all.

Just another set of lies!!!!

Typical of Greedy Tot. He specifically avoids casting a vote either way regarding MoveOn.org, but attacks the hand that feeds him on nationwide tv so he won't look too "liberal." At least Hillary Clinton has the guts to say what she believes. Watch BO squirm when he has to explain why he's still in Iraq after a year or so. What an empty suit!

Well, when you can get him to take a position on anything, you can bet he be as liberal as they come. Can't wait to see what he does with The Dept of Ed and HUD, particularly HUD. We'll see lots more money for testing and housing bailouts, you can bet on that.

He'll need more than 25 American flags to get me to believe him!

What is this with throwing people under the bus thing? For all the crap people spew, you would hope that some people that believe its true would've done the research to see if its true. First of all, when did he throw his grandmother under the bus? All he ever said was for her GENERATION she was a typical person. As much as she loved him and cared for him, she still had some of her prejudices. He said he still loved her, but she could sometimes say things that bothered him. How is that throwing her under the bus? How many people, morals, values has McCain thrown off the straight crap express? No candidate is perfect so stop with this jumping on every little thing, CAN WE HAVE REAL NEWS PLEASE?

He never said anything about Move on.org. Maybe I was watching a different speech. please let's not make up news to keep me on the blogs. This will be the last post I make I can't take anymore of the Media information Crap. I'll just wait until Novemebr and cast my Vote for Obama. You guys have a great time. I'm going out and live my life.

That's a nice one Kim Taylor – Libs aren't the lemmings? You believe anything the media tells you. Conservatives are the ones founded on individualism and individual responsibility. Libs want the government to instruct and take care of them in everything. If you guys really think for yourselves, how come none of you have stopped and thought "wait a minute – our country's going bankrupt. We can't afford all of these social programs until we get our financial house in order. Washington should stop spending!" How 'bout "Huh – the scientific jury seems to still be out on man-made global warming, with more scientists challenging it all the time. Maybe Al Gore's 90 minute little slideshow doesn't encapsulate everything everybody has to say about this infinitely complex issue, so we should look into this before we throw the baby out with the bathwater." What about this one: "Alternative sources of energy must be found, but we're nowhere near the point where they're economical or practical. Until then, we should tap our own resources here with clean resource exploration and nuclear power so we don't cripple and even destroy the economies of our nation and our world. Surely there's a way to do this to make both sides happy." Until you show me an honest Lib who is actually willing to wake up to these facts rather than swallow what the politicians want to sell you, I'll never believe you think for yourselves about anything.

I wouldn't even have responded to it myself. When you do, you give them a stick to beat you with.

I expect CNN to be more professional than this. This is National Equirer stuff. We the people are in trouble. We need so badly to discuss the economy, energy, health care, Iran and how we got into this war and how we are going to get out. Yet for some reason CNN chooses too spend their and my time if someone is patroitic enough. I know it is cheap content, three people talking about nothing. Your viewers deserve better. Your not FOX

MoveOn.Org has their own political agenda which is George Soro's ideal of the USA becoming a European Style Socialist society where government controls everything that you need including choice of transportation, medical treatment, income, education, and wants a welfare state. Notice he wants to raise my taxes, but keeps his billions in overseas trust so he does not have to pay his fair share in taxes. The tax increase should be to remove the loop hole that lets people like George Soro's and Ted Kennedy hide their big money overseas. This is not a sister Soljah moment for Obama. Obama owes MoveOn.org his nomination and being from Chicago Politics will be oblidged to take care of MoveOn.org as anyother special interest group.

I wonder if Joe Liberman is the one that is going to launches the new terror attack. Please stop scaring people for political reason. America, it is not true no terror attack in 2009. If there is one Joe Lieberman and the Republican Party is behind it.

Good for Obama. I'm tired of MoveOn's black/white view of things. If you're conservative, you're the evil one. If you're far left, you're a-ok. Life – and people – are more complicated. As a former Clinton supporter, I think Obama was right on the mark, and I applaud his forthrightness.

He had better be careful and not attack his supporters before they drop him.
Obama '08

While I agree with Mr Obama, I thought MoveOn.Org got it right. Whats wrong with taking a stand on some issues. This war is a joke and our men and women in uniform deserve better! I would gladly say that the war is a disaster and needs better leadership with a real purpose. Lets call the Moveon ad what it was, a talking piece to get America thinking and to get our attention about this human travesty.

This is ridiculous. This is not news, and neither is the cover story that's been there for hours. CNN is just another liberal hack. Nobody attacked Obama's patriotism publicly within the past week – the story is Clark's dubious comments about McCain. And yet CNN paints this as Obama having to come out and defend his patriotism against some unknown attacker, quoting ad nauseum from his speech? Please. Anything CNN or MSNBC can do to spin a story Obama's way…

Its about time. Now if he'd just proceed and scold his nasty supporters who talk horribly and hatefully about Hillary, maybe us Clintonites would jump on board. Until then….Johnny Boy looks reaaaaaallllly good.

This is the same thing that happens to anybody Obama finds it expediant to disown. That is, after your usefulness is over. Obama needed MoveOn to win the primaries but now, under the bus they go. The same with the anti war crowd. In the primaries, it was "out of Iraq now." These days, its a whole different tune. A say anything to be elected kind of guy. Obama peaked last Feb and he's losing support.
What a unifier Obama turned out to be, he's uniting the country against himself. Or was unifier last months message? That statement is no longer operative now.

Folks

I just finished listening to the CNN'S Campbell Brown segment. Campbell was talking to Roland Martin and someone with the first name LARS?

They were talking about Patriotism, scrutinizing Barack, and Michelle.

Folks I have got to say it as I see it, that person LARS is a RACIST OF THE HIGHIST DEGREE. HE MADE EVERY EXCUSE IN THE BOOK TO QUESTION BARACK AND MICHELLE ON THEIR PATRIOTISM, ROLAND DID NOT TAKE IT LYING DOWN, OH NO. ROLAND CAME OUT SWINGING, BUT FOLKS THIS LARS WHATEVER, WAS, BELIEVE ME THE MOST RACIAL DISGUSTING CREEP THAT I HAVE EVER HEARD SPEAK OF PATRIOTISM AND SPOUT RACISM IN THE SAME BREATH! THROUGHOUT THE SEGMENT THIS LARS JUST KEPT SMILING THAT OILY DISGUSTING SMILE THAT JUST TELLS YOU WHAT KIND OF PERSON HE IS. THIS MAN ABSOLUTELY MADE ME WANT TO PUKE!

PLEASE GOD TELL ME THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DO NOT BUY INTO THIS NOT SO SUBTLE RACISM!

CHANGE WE CAN'T BELIVE IN: BARACK OBAMA

Once again this shows that Obama is just a politican as usual. He sucked up to MoveOn, their supporters, and their positions when running aganist Hillary and now he is backing away from his positions and attacking those who were most responsible for his being the nominee.

OBAMA IS A COWARD AND ARROGANT MAN…

I beg to differ with you. Obama does not run in any direction. He is deliberate in his movements and you had better get used to it. What you need to stop doing is predict this man's thoughts, intentions, movements, and least of all what he plans to do in the future. What you need to realize is that he does not fit in the mold that you have cast for him. I do believe that the fear of his success is what is driving the nay sayers to attempt to derail his election for President.

We are all starring at the headlights of that big truck comming directly at us, and we don't even realize it is comming. Voting for Obama will mean change, however will it be a change for the better or worse???
He lacks real experience, his main goal has been get in the white house ASAP, without trying to do much for the american people in the mean time. Talk about self centered. Do you think that will change when he is in the white house? I am hope we all can avoid that big truck hitting us…..

to anita from arizona
don't worry about the garbage barack will make sure michelle takes it out

Hey he threw Wright under the bus, why not MoveOn.org now? He will throw Americans under the bus as well.

Obama thinks he has to keep telling people he is patriotic, that if he tells them enough people would believe it.

Obama has no clue what patriotism is.

He avoided to vote either way LOL the obama way. Do not get involved, do not make a stand, vote present when possible.

I think Obama has a lot to learn. About people. about patriotism.

He loved moveon when he could use them, now he is against them.
typical obama hypocritical.

The ball of string is starting to unravel. This just doesn't have what it takes. no chutzpah–just being a weasel.

if you-want honesty in the white house it starts by being honest yourself. hoping is not enough. you have to be judgemental. sen. obama as changed his mind on nearly every issue since the beginning of his campaign. i can understand a change in policy today from one of seven eight years ago but have trouble with candidates changing their minds from seven eight weeks ago if the only change barack obama can bring is his change of mind then i'm changing mine from obama via hillary to mccain

We need to "move on" from the same old system of bailouts, special interest pandering, and tax increases… We need a real leader. Too bad no one is willing to step up.

http://www.beyondthemargin.net/2008/06/housing-bailout-close-to-fruition.html

Now I hear Obama is not supporting gay marriage—is this what he means by "bringing everyone together"?

When will people see that he's totally two faced and will pander to the groups with the most votes rather than speak up for what is right.

This is why I am not voting for obama….

Ah, HA HA HA!!

Obama even threw MoveOn.org under the bus!!!

Keep sending him money, Moveon!!!!

Wait a minute. I hear Obama is now taking the NRA's position on guns—-how can he do that when in Chicago, his own city, over 500 people have been gunned down so far this year? Nader may be right about Obama—-Obama is talking "white" and totally ignoring the needs of the black community.

Wow Roger, your a nut case as is this PUMA crap.
Get over it will ya? Move On .org

I am moveon member..but this does not change my opinion about Brack..

We have Obama in one side and That good for nothing war monger who wants 100 years of war McCain..I'd anyday go for Barack…

McCain means war…

To Obama haters:

Obama hasn't attacked anyone. Everytime he's speaks of McCain, he always recognizes his services, but says that this is the issue that both he and McCain disagrees on, whatever the issue is at that time. There is no shame in disagreeing with someone who you don't share the same views on. Just like, you guys don't like Obama and criticize him for whatever issues you have. Whether those reasons are justified or not is up to. And just because his supporters says or does something doesn't mean he's behind it, believes in it or promotes those things. Stop being stupid people..so I guess everyone I know who says,does and believes something that's far left, I'm responsible. The last I remember, I'm suppose to be responsible for myself and my actions, not someone elses. I do thinks it's great that he does call these supporters out, when actually he shouldn't have to and that even goes for McCain.

Obama doesn't need MoveOn anymore, sooooooooooooo he throws them under the bus!!!

There is a certain je ne sais qua about obama that makes me want to run for the nearest exit. If he isn't the most insincere person running for the great leader's office, I don't know who is.

I just don't trust him. He happens to be a serial quitter who likes to take his ball and run home. His wife is a piece of work as well.

Now he talks about patriotism. i hope he listened to himself and maybe he will know a little about patriotism.

I know he knows nothing about it, so he must have paid a visit to the library or had Wesley give him a five point briefing. Give me a break and send him back to Illinois.

I am scared of Barack Hussein Obama.

How can we trust someone with his credentials? He is not qualified and we have better people in the USA who can be President.

I am a lifelong democrat and I am voting McCain this fall.

Obama – Not the old folks politics !!!!!!

Obama – Not the same old stuff over and over ad nauseum.

We've got your back Barack. Keep being above what the slime bags do.

Thanks.

Jan, don't be ignorant….of course Obama is wanting to bring the troops home, but the reality is it won't be that easy. And until he get the whole picture as to where things are at when he's in office and with the advice of his aides and military personnel, he can't strategies a complete laid out plan and that would go the same way for McCain, but in his case it would be to move forward in winning and not bringing home our troops.

Obama should have voted, and made his position clear. He's obviously hiding his personal feelings for the sake of votes. I don't know if I like Obama, because I don't know what he stands for, and this is yet another opportunity he could have taken to show America what he represents. It's this kind of wishy-washy decision making that frightens me. Do you get to vote "present" in the Senate?

obama cannot be trusted with our country. simple as that.

Mr. President, don't worry about them or him. They can't get anything on you but that! They are grabbing at straws and searching for that needle in the haystack (which they won't fine).

The Republicans are losers and they know it. They wanted Senator Clinton to be the Nominee so that they could trash her and her husband. They have a boat load of ugly, nasty and visious things to say and do to them.

They cannot believe that this multilevel mixed man is clean and that anyone that has black skin is dirty or has something up their sleeves.

Just run your campaign and move on. Your a WINNER!

He can safely do this because Moveon.org will and the other left wing groups will continue to support him regardless of what he says. This is just political posture.
Those of us who know you won't buy you. El que no te conoce que te compre.
Hispanos reject this imposter. Do your homework and check out the agenda of the Black Liberation Theology. Does not fare well for Hispanics that are of European descent (Spain). WE are part of the problem as they see it.

SUCKERS ! Once again Obama shows that he is only with yo as long as you can help him.

Barak Obama
Change as long as its politically expedient

I am a member of Move On. I did not support the Betray Us ad. It does not bother me a bit that Obama did not participate in chastising Move On. I did too!
CNN you are so not relevant today…or does today just seem worse then other days?
I am inches away from "switching networks" for my news.
Where are the real issues?
Where is the real news?
YOU HAVE BECOME TABLOID CNN. PLEASE GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER.
Post this CNN, please

Wow, so many of you seem to miss the point. THIS is CHANGE.
He's telling his own supporters that we need to "be the better" party and not play their games. You can't see this?
I tell fellow Obama supporters on forums all the time when I see them use similar ridiculous attacks like the other side that they need to knock it off.

This keeps with everything he stands for, what part of this don't you get?

"Be the change you wish to see"

SADIE… You still believe that cause you are a crazy liberal who probably thinks the bush administration took down the twin towers right???? And we are in Iraq for oil that he and all his friends are getting rich of, right???? Yet this is the same guy you call an idiot??
Seems to me if he was able to pull that off he is one of the smartest men in the world……

Obama is a very honest man… He always says what he thinks is right, no matter if that could get in him in trouble for defending what is fair … he has a lot of integrity and moral! All the way… OBAMA '08..!

Last I heard WE DO HAVE FREEDOM OF THOUGHT AND SPEECH in our country!

Although some of the comments against Sen. Obama are just plain racist, you people have the RIGHT TO SPEAK YOUR DIVISIVE AND HATEFUL WORDS.

HOWEVER, for all those endorsing McCain what has he done? He did not want to vote for the Bill that would have given our IRAQ WAR VETERANS BETTER BENEFITS, HOW IS THIS PRO-AMERICAN? NOT TO WANT TO SUPPORT OUR VETS?

There is a lot of misinformation out there, its obvious that we can not have a civil dialogue or exchange of ideas without someone bashing the candidates.

Look everyone has a right to voice their point of view, but the nasty-hate-mongering statements just show how ignorant you are.

Great speech Obama!

And I never had disrespect for McCain's services in the military and know it was a great service that he did along with all others who serve this country whether they choose to go into service or drafted, it doesn't matter. But it still goes back that he still using it as a reason that he would have a better idea on foreign policy when actually if he had stayed in service for more years and traveled abroad more extensively in negotiations on foreign policy for the U.S, then I would say he's definitely qualified. True he does have qualifications, but I do believe he goes beyond what it is and it doesn't call for you to be a great leader. If all I have to do is service for a few years like my brother who serviced 3, doesn't make him a great President. It helps, but you still need more. I would say, if America is at war everytime you turn around, then it's definitely important, but pretty much the President is a representative on behalf of the American people when he/she travels abroad in terms of foreign policies.

He dissed moveon and also Chicago's Gay and Lesbian community.

He was home in Chicago yesterday but chose not to march in the city's annual Gay Pride parade.

He's trying to move to the center and will now dismiss the left. He's a politican.

So much for "Hope" and Change"

"he is one of the most liberal senators we have."

I love how that term is thrown around every 4 years. Amazing that we always seem to nominate the most liberal senator! I guess that's what we want if we keep doing it … or maybe there is nothing to back that charge up. I'd love to see Hannity or one GOP back that up the fact and not some GOP Poll.

Hey Bill for Obama

Um McCain has come out against every single 527 ad and even scolded his advisor for saying he would get a bump if there was a terrorist attack….Even though its true…

Please give me a break… Get some common sense and don't write anything unless you are SURE of what your writing…

Typical obama backer who will say anything to be heard no matter how ridiculous it is….

There is a reason conservatives are hesitant to get behind McCain… Its because he is a moderate, known for crossing party lines….. but how quickly we forget… and instead of electing someone who is a moderate…… we are going to get the senator with the MOST LIBERAL VOTING RECORD since joining…. LOOK IT UP

GET A CLUE!!

It's true, "you can't please some of the people – ever!" If he didn't offer a chastising remark about the most extreme "MoveOn" tactics, he'd be accused of hypocrisy. If he indicates he doesn't agree with everything they do, he's disloyal to a solid base of support. I'm a MoveOn member – don't agree with everything they do and appreciate Obama's willingness to once again express his opinion about negative, divisive, personal attacks.

I think that folks who've made up their mind against Obama feel they have to discredit him on every front, as opposed to simply supporting McCain. Like he says, "politics of the past…."

Trying read his book, Chuck…

OBAMA is the NEXT President of USA.

Roger, are you serious? In case you were not aware, the RBC consisted of more Clinton supporters, and they still were able to reach a fair conclusion. Your apparent cut-and-paste here is more indicative of a right-wing tactic used on many blogs, and it makes PUMA appear even more like a Republican group.

Campbell Brown

can someone get control of her? Her facial gestures alone are driving me crazy, she literally runs rough shot over the guest as they offer commentary. I understand she has to keep control and keep the dialogue moving but she comes across so abrasive it really is annoying.

Obama is not his own person. What comes out of his mouth is being fed to him by the white boys who run his campaign and the Democratic party. They are trying to package Obama as more to the center, but still progressive. What better way to do this then to diss one of the more skewed liberal groups – MoveOn – seems like MoveOn is about to MoveOut of Obama's life. Just one more thing, with all due respect to Black folks who are on cloud 9, Obama is not a product of Black power and presence – he's a product of whitey.

Let's go Obama,

this is exactly why I am voting for you Obama!!

CNN when you call out Obama's voting record – including the times that he ducked out so he could posture later? Voters should be given information so we can watch what people do – not what they say.

I don't think Obama said that to hurt anyones feelings, I think he was just trying to make a point, his campaign is built around change, I must say that little move on act was kind of offensive, we have to treat John Mccain like any other elderly person and that is with respect, they already claim that Obama supporters are thugs and disrepectful, so I say let's paint on a smile and win this election.

I left Moveon.org after they endorsed Obama.

Obama makes Kerry's flip flopping look like childs play. You're done BHO…

All of Obama's supporters need to be scolded.

That's not the Move On that I knew….

Welcome to the underside of the bus idiots!

Under Obama Iraq War will go on..

I supported an Obama with enthusiasm. Now, as the best available option. But, unfortunately, he is just a slippry pol, and little more. He bashes moveOn for having the audacity to speak its mind and critize THE General. And, bails outon Wesley Clark for poiting out the obvious — NO, being a fighter pilot alone does not necessariy qualify you to be the chief executive of the larget, most powerful nation on earth. (anybody remeber Duke Cunningham). Clark did not dis anyone's patriotism. But, Obama felt a little heat and bolted. He is the best hope we have. That looks like a sadder truth everyday.

Know what is sad? David Petraeus actually has committed treason. All these butt kissing media and politicians could careless about what the Founding Fathers of this nation warned us. This is only the beginning of the end…soon the Military will demand that they are the only ones who deserve to elect the president. Next they will be given the seats on Congress. Then we lose the shattered remains of our Democratic-Republic. But I guess its all well and good now since it is politically expedient to spit in the faces of the Founding Fathers. I guess the first debate between McCain and Obama will feature the two of them urinating on the Constitution.

Hillary for Field Marshall. Trying the decent act is a little bit too late. We will take you to the finish line Senator! We don't believe in a repackaged candidate.

Flip/flop much Obama. Why didn't you bring this up on the campaign trail when they endorsed you. What a fake this guy is.

There will be lots of previous obama supporters, republicans or not, who will drop obama like a hot potato during the general election.

All that glitters is not gold.

look out moveon.org here comes the "i dont need you anymore and your holding me back"BUS. RUN FOR GODS SAKE RUN OUTTA THE WAY

McCain '08 and Hillary 2012

Recap of today:
Percentage of political tickers talking about irrelevant campaign tactics=100
Percentage talking about relevant political issues that actually affect our lives=0!

Obama is naiive.
He thought that playing (Mr. Nice) and attacking his own supporters will stop the republicans from attacking him

I think it is more than due time to take a good look @ Ralph Nader, he seems to really hit the issues head on. Moveon.org should try backing him instead.

Give me a break. He kissed their butt when he was running in the caucuses and when they belittled Clinton. Now he takes a swipe at them. What a tough guy. What a joke.

Chuck, what questions are you talking about? Sen. Obama has directly answered questions about the flag pin and the Pledge. You can't get more direct than providing photos and videos to prove that the rumors are false. He has also provided evidence that he has, in fact, placed his hand on a Bible in swearing-in ceremonies.

What will it take for those of you who simply refuse to accept the truth? He has created an entire web site to refute false claims, some of them completely outrageous. He has admitted making mistakes in his youth, yet he had the character to overcome them. Now, get over it and see if you can possibly admit that the questions have been covered because we need to focus on repairing the damage that has been done to our country over the past 7 years!

The more I read about Senator Obama…. the more convinced I am that we were right all along….. this man is full of manure.
Latinos for McCain!

I had to chuckle when I read the following from the above article "while Obama specifically avoided voting either way on the resolution". Sounds to me that Obama is unwilling to take any kind of position as his "present" votes indicate. Is this what we want in a president?

Obama is a honesty and trustworthy man.Obama will make a GREAT President. This country need a change in direction which is a positive thing Obama for change.

Don't you just love Obama, little by little he is digging himself a big hole to be buried in! He is the typical politician, when I need you, you get praised, but when I don't need you watch out for the kick! What will it take for the American voter to see Obama for the calculating, backstabbing politician he really is? This is your choice for President, because it surely is mine!

gee, are there anymore people bo can stab in the back? just one more reason to vote McCain!

Now he started wearing the lapel pin. I think one of the veteran told him to wear it to show true patriotism. All the while he was in denial.
He is a text that will open the eyes of the gullible youth of America, half of them dont know who is their congressman, vice president or secretary of state.
Audacity of Hope
I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.
For photo-op session during one of his events his campaign threw two muslim women wearing scarf under the bus. He is scared that american people will label him a muslim. Is he going to represent all the americans or throw the muslim americans under the bus to win the elections.
Gullible youths of america beware of blindly following the pied piper. Your future will be dim and you will not know when the rug is pulled from under your feet.

Did anyone watch the BET awards last week? All I gotta say is McCain better watch out. SOOOOO many young people look up to these musicians who 100% support Obama. Don't for once think you won't see some of these artist come out and campaign for Obama before November. Did we forget about P Diddys "Vote or Die" campaign?!?

I'm a 24 year blk women and I have friends from all backgrounds. Everyone I know is voting for Obama.

McCain is out of touch with youth. He's like my grandfather. Obama has made it easier and more delightful to participate in the political elections. HE DOESN'T HAVE A CHANCE!!!!!!!

OB '08

I'm a member of MoveOn.org, opposed it siding with any presidential candidate, supported Hillary, and now will support Barack. I agree that the shrill hue & cry of "threadbare arguments" is a pollution of political discourse. I also know that he can't be comfortable with a MoveOn.org endorsement in many parts of middle America.

so now we're attacking obama for having independent thoughts?? he's not allowed to disagree with someone who's on our side???! what's up, democrats, have you forgotten, WE arent the lemmings?? we're the ones who ENCOURAGE thinking for yourself!!!!!

of course obama is heading toward the center, he's no dummy he knows EXACTLY what he needs to do to get into the white house!!!

Huh NOBAMA???

Don't we already have double digit unemployment and inflation? How is Obama going to bring something to this country that's already here? HELLO!!!!

and Texas Trail Dog???

I find your comments especially entertaining. You know, like a blowhard. You have a lot of judgement calls, but no meat to back it up. What's your Pookie Face, McCain done in the 20 years he's been in office beside the Keating 5, which is based on facts. I see the change your talking about. It's not chanage at all. It's more of the same your preaching.

Accusations of treason! Knavery! Nay, TRIPLE knavery!!! Obama posture your puissance!

No offense Senator Obama, but you sure did not critize MoveOn when they were busy bashing Hillary Clinton!

Obama=doublespeak once again. Do you stand for anything?

Recap: During the primaries he never said a word about the ads and tactics employed by MoveOn against his opponents, particularly Clinton. Now he is rubbing up to the Clintons and finally denouncing MoveOn. You make the judgement whether that's truly consistent…

Obama, done a good thing. Obama call correction on Move On.org and of his supporters when they cross the line. NOt Mccain only thing Mccain said of his 577 and his supporters I can'nt control them and dismiss it.

CB….He's not attacking people…. He's attacking their stupidity and childishness. Can't you tell the difference?

The man said he doesnt want to win by unfairly smearing his opponents. Why can't his supporters respect that?

Obviously, he refuses to bow down to get support. He's a take it or leave it kind of guy. I don't know rather to take him or leave him. But standing up to his supporters the way he's doing is making things a lot more clear for me…..

Well,,, George Bush began the pattern by calling into question anyone who disagreed with his administration's policies. He branded more folks as unpatriotic than tail gunner Joe of the 50's!

And once again Obama, and the main stream media talking about campaign tactics instead of focusing on political issues and candidate records.
This is a distraction! He could have spent this same effort answering questions about his questionable tax hikes, as well as his ever-changing positions on foreign policy. Now THOSE are issues.

Take that moveon.org. Ha ha ha… Obama, your poster boy, is running towards the center.
I bet Lefties were busy winning the caucuses for this guy and never saw it coming, isn't it?

Obama a true gentleman and all Leader.

Why hasn't McCain distance himself and reject the comment made by Joe Liberman about the terrorist attact?

You can't help but admire his ability to demonstrate fairness. CB, I'm sorry you can't see that Obama is supporting you. He is just demonstrating that honesty and fair politics are something we can believe in. Some of us have lost our way.

Somehow I don't recall Obama, or the mainstream media mentioning MoveOn and all its dirty attacks on opponents during the primaries… I also don't recall Obama denouncing that 'General Betray-us' ad WHEN it actually came out… NOW it becomes an 'issue?'

Time for progressives in America to move on. Obama is just another phoney politician.

Since they closed down the other thread i will post here. For all you 18 year old nugget heads who don't know anything about anything I will give you a real clear 20 year history lesson on General Wesley Clark

1990- NATO Supreme commander
1992- Leader NATO forces Bosnia (375,000 dead)
1992- Leader NATO forces Bosnia, sent NATO forces against Russian forces and almost started WW III
1993- NATO Commander in charge of peace keeping troops in Rwanda (800,000 dead)
2000- exact quote in front of the Senate Armed Forces Committee- "I don't see any problem with Taliban forces in Afghanistan" (250,000 and counting, dead).
2001- quote in front of the Senate Armed Forces Committee, " I don't think Al-Quaeda will be a problem to us in the future"
500,000 dead, and counting.

USE YOUR HEADS PUPPET'S.

Sen. John McCain IS qualified to be President and
Commander-in-Chief of the United States.

Discrimination is discrimination. Whether is be about race, sex or age..

Obama has to speak out about Moveon.org when they go too far or he won't have the credibility to speak out about all the Republican backed 527's when they start blasting him.

Obama – you're losing me. I've been an ardent supporter…but your not winning anybody over attacking those who support you.

Let's see: MoveOn.org…. Bill Clinton… and not to mention the Hollywood bunch with the likes of Michael Moore all campaigning for Obama…
Now THAT's a recipe for disaster if I ever saw one… If they do now what they did for their respective candidates in '04 and '08 then this could very easily become the most spectacular campaign meltdown since Dukakis…

I like this guy… For far too long, the extreme right and left have hijacked our government and political system. He is right when he says the types of attacks on the Gen. and the people who make them are out-dated.
Most people want to know about the issues. One thing I cn say about Obama, Most of the time, he responds to personal attacks, but when he attacks, its about issues. Neither Hillary or McCain can say that. No matter what Obama does or say, the people who don't like him(Hate-mongers) will always find the negative. Yes I said hatemongers.
Sadly, thats what haters do. They hate. But those people are insignificant. They are angry people. WHen he wins this election inspite of you haters, then what? You're gonna hate the people that supported him.

lmao at you hating idiots.

He needed them, he used them, now he disposes of them. Expect a lot of this from an Obama administration.

There is a definite reason a conservative like me keeps supporting Obama because Obama continues to prove that he is just a voice of reason in these days of political lunacy.

He is definitely not a hard core leftist and it is about time moveon.org etc realized that. He is a man of family, man of god, and a patriot.

Moveon.org should differentiate between the positive spirit of a soldier as reflected by the general, and the political coverup of political blunders by the Bush administration.

Move.org should expect Obama to expose Bush adminstration but not break the spirit of the general.

Obama plays the game very well. He feeds vitriol to his surrogates and then castigates them so he can pretend to take the high road.

Fuzzy and obfuscating rhetoric and well worn political gamesman ship suit Obama well!

The game Fools Obama supporters!

As usual, Senator Obama waits to take a stand until it's politically useful for him to do so.

Obama's speech is synonym for CHANGE.
The man went against the people who endorsed him, not because he don't want their vote; but because he don't want it if it's comes wih negative baggage.
To me, that shows CHARACTER, when most politician settle for reputation.
Many are so blinded by their hate, negativity, and fear of something new that they object to any message that sounds different.
How can the country move forward if we're looking backwards?
How can you disclaim a statement without giving it some thoughts?
Open your eyes and smell the bacon
Obama 08

Can we say "Finally" again? Or maybe count the times we say it? There is a long list growing and he only has himself to blame for it. Take the blinders off, it's as clear as day. Seriously.

That's what he gets for being friends with terrorists. That is the weather underground.

These attacks on McCain's military career has now gone way too far. Beer's also attacked McCain on him being a POW. It's funny how they always start off by saying, "With all do respect…" and then they proceed to attack McCain and his record. I served my country in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Kuwait (That's right, I said it, Kuwait). Its hurting me to read the comments on his military career. Nobody should attack a man's military service. McCain has just now Secured my vote!! This is one democrat who will be going republican in the fall.

In regard to the comments about General Petraeus "painting a rosy picture of the conditions on the ground," you have to think about the state of the war in Iraq. Can you tell me how to successfully exit the war? Note that successful means not leaving it a war zone. I'd love to hear it if so.

Obama wants the MoveOn.org votes to win the Primary, but NOW he changes his colors. He's just another politician like all the rest. He claims "change" but he'll throw puppies under the bus for votes if he has to. He never rejected their endorsement the way McCain rejected Hagee's endorsement. If he was really interested in changing how Washington does business, he would have shown some backbone and voted for the Senate Resolution and rejected the MO.org endorsement.

Clinton voted "against" the resolution repudiating MoveOn.Org, and Obama "specifically avoided" voting. Is Obama not capable of taking any position when it is not politically expedient? That explains all the "present" votes. That's fine for as long as long as he does not come around lecturing all those who had the moral courage not to be fence-sitters.

this article is totally misleading…………it does not deserve my comment!

That "General Petraeus or General Betray us?" ad is widely regarded a cheap shot and a political mistake. Barack Obama clearly voicing his disdain for it is consistent with his message throughout his campaign.

Please MoveOn, CONTINUE to support Obama and help him into the White House the same way you helped Kerry in '04!…

Hate doesn't pay! And Obama supporters really need to start listening to their own candidate instead of continuing on with their childish name-calling ('Mc-insert-insulting-word') hatefest.

Hatefest against Hillary may have propeled Obama in the primaries, but in the general election people will start talking about issues and candidates' records. So stop with the name-calling and start looking at data and facts! Start thinking instead of talking. Start asking questions instead of mindlessly parroting talking points. Don't let the media tell you what to think and how to decide! Think for yourselves! You aren't helping Obama gain more votes by acting childish and name-calling!

I am a MoveOn member and I don't care if Barack lectures us. WE are not running for prez but he is. He can lecture me all he wants!! GO OBAMA!

P.S., to all you agreeing with Clark's comment: It's not like McCain walked off the field of battle on ran for president. With both military AND over 20 years of political service, he is more than qualified.

While Barack served under 200 days in the Senate before announcing his candidacy. Hmmm…

People.

Please.

Haven't we had enough of the phrase "under the bus" already? If you can't think of anything more intelligent to post than this overused reality-tv catchphrase, then please reconsider commenting. You have nothing of value to contribute to the conversation.

As a dual US/Australian citizen living in Melbourne, Australia it appears that the only candidate running is Obama. For a man who is half white and half black, when did he turn all black?? He could be coloured green for all I care but he does not come across as sincere or reliable with his changing his beliefs with the change of the political climate. Could we possibly hear about the OTHER candidate running? This one isn't of much interest.

MoveOn is too left for this political centrist.

Truth is, I had a high skeptic view of the Iraq invasion. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Powell made me say OK "let's do this."

Anybody with a sensible mind knows Sadaam Hussein was a dictator with no conscious. He murdered his own people, and his demise was a benefit for the world.

Here we are 2008, and the problems of Iraq still exsist. I believe Sen. McCain can deliver solutions for Iraq, while Sen. Obama can not.

Actually, McCain has, on numerous occasions, blasted the 527s.

As a conservative, it's actually pleasant to see Obama see the worst of his side of the political spectrum. Good job, Barack, but McCain still has my vote.

So he's addressing questions about his patriotism by not denouncing groups that criticize the military? He never denounced the ad or the group, he took their money and their help, and now he indirectly criticizes one of their ads? Talk about flip-flopping!!

Political Action Groups and Lobbyists beware. BO does not want you near him.

We see here another example of how Barack likes to cover all the bases. His obama-speak is brilliantly crafted and well delivered. It’s no wonder he has so many devote followers. Must have a team of politicos working overtime. To the deepest pockets go the sharpest minds.

Hmmmm he shyed away from the vote to condemn the group but he SAYS he did'nt approve of the attack. Sounds like a preview of what is to come, all talk and no action.

A VOTE FOR OBAMA IS THE CARTER 2ND TERM

who wants double diget unemployment and inflation?!? Because that's the only CHANGE you'll get.

McCain 08

I do not know who is advising Obama at this time, but it appears to me that it is lousy advice. There is no need to recreate Obama as the Black Bill Clinton. I am disgusted with how Obama is becoming a caricature of delusion. I have been a financial supporter all this time. I am now withdrawing from supporting him. This stinks. It just stinks and is so unnecessary.

It seems Obama is saying there are constructive ways for us to move forward. I would respectfully agree to all of us included.

The media loves to stir the pot to create "controversy" and division. It's unfortunate, but I guess good for their ratings.

It's about time a Democrat had the balls to criticize MoveOn.org. They're as bad as the right wing pundits. Of course, Republicans won't understand because none of them have the stones to criticize liars like Ruch, Bill, Ann, and Michelle.

Ironic that Obama just spoke to Billy Clinton. This is Obama's "sister souljah" moment. A dirty Politician from Chicago is going to "change" America? lol. Welcome to a true American hero President McCain.

Take that moveon.org!! YOU SUCK!!!!! Obama doesn't need you any more so how about you just move on!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

hey this is Sergeant will Again just want everyone know how the war is going well my last Deployment really open my eye. The soldier have lost there feel towards this war. and it war a kick in the balls when our president exstanded the Deployment to 15 months. and 4 months later tell the people that we are having shorter Deployment cause they move it back to twelve. What kind of Commander and Chief is that to sucker the American People. Well as a Soldier it just Angers you

Move-on dot org should do as its name says and move on, out of
the political snark and eithter disappear or get someone with a working brain to offer some ideas.

Let's see… Wesley Clark said that getting shot down in a plane is not a qualification for being president. What, exactly, is wrong with that? Is Obama saying that it IS a qualification? Is anyone seriously maintaining that? Oh come on.

As far as moveon.org—- Again, Petraeus is an obvious hack for the chicken hawks. Moveon called it right– a little blunt for our sensitive ears.

People, grow up! The McBushies are reveling in you twisting yourselves into knots over this 'patriotism' bull. See it for what it is.

I'm loving this. Take it stupid liberals in moveon.org. Good lesson for betraying Hillary.

Well, didn't the Republicans start this by making fun of John Kerry's service and his Purple Hearts with their adds suggesting he was a coward and the wearing of Purple Heart bandaids at their convention??

I USED to be a member of MoveOn.org, however, since the General Betry Us ad and their support for the Chicago buffoon, I've thrown them under the bus…

Obama is a politician who will say anything to get elected. He has no real values. During the party nomination he couldnt say anything against moveon because he needed their support. Now he is trying to act to be patriotic and right than moveon, because he needs the independent votes. Too many people couldnt see through this guy.

I receive MoveOn.org's emails and I am often frustrated by some of their decisions, the General Petraeus slogan being a case in point. Senator Obama continues to show that he will attempt to walk the walk and, in the end, that is why I support him.

If Move On has any level of maturity within its organization then they will take Obama's message as constructive criticism and not a wholesale condemnation.
Well said Obama – Leadership matters!

It seems that moveon.org and Obama hasn't really been on the best of terms lately. I think Moveon.org is still pushing Obama to not support the FISA bill. And he shouldn't, because earlier this year he said he would stand by Fiengold's side against the bill. I'm a big Obama supporter, but I don't think he should be picking fights with Moveon.org. Those guys can be ruthless if needed.

What is evident is Obama's change is a matter of shameless political expediency rather than principle. He suddently learned how to put on a lapel pin….he suddenly begins talking about patriotism. And all these years, he listened to his pastor and mentor anti-Amerian rants! Does Obama has the integrity to be president…or is what he says JUST WORDS?

He takes a swipe at MoveOn. Org now after he consciously chose not to participate while in attendance when the Senate voted whether or not to condemn their activities ???

This guy is confused….or ingenuine.

i can't believe that people sign emails "white people for obama"
let's leave race out of it. the guy is so not qualified he couldn't work his way out of a wet paper bag. and beyond that i can't believe how many people in this country don't get the "manufacturing" of mr. o.
he "out politicians" all the rest! there is so much spin around him i am surprised he is actually on the ground…although, that's right, we need to look to the heavens to spot him. oh, and could you please stop looking down your downright arrogant nose at everyone when you speak. one of many things that are so annoying. today you want us to believe that this is the first time anyone ever questioned your patriotism….where have you been? i have been questioning it since the first clip of the good rev. and you cannot spin your way out of those 20 years and who knows what you all talked about around the sun dinner table. i am sick and tired of you and all your "strategists", a kind word for those that are talented in trying to make a silk purse…in this case trying to make you into someone who is qualified to be president. hopefully more and more people are coming to their senses. you and the dnc deserve each other. we don't.

There is a systematic problem across the board in politics. Just because an organization supports Obama doesn't mean that he can't call them out on their flaws. Isn't that what we want?

I view many the above comments posts expressing the old and tired comment–react–react responses, many which are emotional rather than being thought out. I also see Obama expressing leadership to change the destructive practice which is akin to putting gasoline on a raging fire. Obama also advocates respective dialog rather then polarizing statements ala the Karl Rove school of divide and conquer which unknowingly demeans those who buy into the the divisive technique.

After helping him out in the primaries, Obama is throwing the left-wing under the bus. I agree with '2012′, get us a bigger bus!

Closely watching…..clearly you weren't. We are "Over it" Just hope you are when your darling little liberal lap dog bites the dust come November. Remember the one that was actually in the white house? the one that actually won a few races? the one that stood upl to the Republican attack machine and was never destroyed by them? That just happened to be a Clinton. But just wait ,your turn will come. this snakeoil salesman will end up throwing everyone under the bus to get what he wants. His premature grab for power will end up dividing this party to the core. But heh you and Obama and Oprah can all get together at the Harvard club and have cocktails when it's over. The rest of the working democrates will have to clean you mess up once again.

i'm a soldier in the US army station in Germany, i have been Deployed 3 time and on my way to my four Deployment i am sick of Deploying and wasting my time i am so happy that Sen Obamama want to with pull the troops out cause we are burned out. Sen Mccain have no idea and is jut like Bush who want our country to pay out taxes Dollars for a useless country.

I will follow mccain before obama
mccain i know will have my back obama just thinks about his back

Obama is starting to remind me of a mob boss. I don't know how my enemies get beat up – I am a simple business man. It was an unfortunate accident. Just terrible. Wink, wink.

John, McCain denounced swiftboaters in 2004. Where were you? Obama waited until MoveOn raised money for him and did get-out-the-vote campaigns. He still wouldn't even denounce them by name. What a hypocrit!

Latinos (Hispanic) People are NOT Stupid you know we know better not to vote for a loser like OBAMA!!!!

you cry when obama is weak you cry when he stands up to people or someone this man cant win you obama haters will do everthing you can to make him look bad even when hes doing the right thing well you go obama your gonna be agreat president!!!

Ok first off All politicians lie and when something isn't going the way they need it to they disregard it or write it off- As for getting out of Iraq not going to happen- let me explain Hiroshima and Nagasaki (didn't spell right) were how long ago and yes we are still in Japan we are still in Korea we are in germany hell we are everywhere that we invaded or fought– If you listen to Obama he never talks about pulling out the civilian contractors over there or leaving the green zone he just talks about pulling out and leaving support if needed now that if needed is like the fine writing that means we will stay there just with less people which puts us at more risk- my husband and friends are over there and they see the positive happening that doesn't get told by the news however what our candidates need to discuss is shortening the length of the tours especially for the army they do the longest tours and what about the other 60% of the army thats boots havent touched iraq or afghanistan? Forget about the nonsense of goin back and forth about the stupid things– its all going to be the same stuff regardless of who becomes president- Obama's integrity is at question he either votes present when controversial or votes for something when it benefits him not for the cause– They are all liars and deceive everyone- but look at it this way all is good cause Bush will be gone very shortly– By the way Obama talks about change so much like he needs to convince himself whats up with that…

LOL- Yeap— CHANGE–Right! Sound like a sly politician being politically expedient. I wonder how silly MOVEON.org feels now?

Bam knows how to root out truth and is a friend of truth. He speaks it even when it is unpopular–even when ncessary to a friend–not jsut an adversary. Bam is the kind of person we want as a president and we should be careful to make sure that he is elected in Novemeber! UP WITH BAM!!! DOWN WITH CANEY-CANE!

Hey Paul, my dad's name is Paul and you are just as ignorant and bigoted as he is. You guys are dinosaurs stuck in an archaic way of thinking. BTW 18 million voted for Obama including many republicans so we won't stand alone.

Nice. The Senate votes to condemn MoveOn and Obama ducks taking a position again. Looks like he stuck to his IL Senate ways where he voted present 130 times, rather than take a stand. If the guy won't condemn a group that calls a distinguish general a traitor, when will he? Where's the support for the troops we hear about? Empty suit strikes again.

MCBUSH IS USING THE SAME TACTICS BUSH

WAS ELECTED WITH. AND IF ELECTED WILL

LEAD US INTO AS MANY WARS AS POSSIBLE,

WITHOUT OUR PERMISSION. BUSH, MCBUSH, & CHANEY

HAVE DONE A CRAP JOB THUS FAR. WHY ARE THE DEMS

TAKING SUCH A SOFT POSITION, WHILE MCBUSH & HIS

SURROGATES ARE USING THE SAME CARL ROVE SLEAZY

TACTICS. THEY SHOULD HIT THEM HARD & ALL THE TIME.

Pchapin June 30th, 2008 6:07 pm ET

And to think so many thought Obama was so different & a choice for change. He is just another politician that hasn't authored or co-authored one bill since he has been a US senator
_____________________________________________________

let me put ypou straight HE HAS.. this is ANOTHER BASELESS LIE.. maybe oyu should actually go look at the Congressional Journal.. but then that would take research and you are not one to do that I can see. Now go vote for mccain (or the liar hillary) if you will mccains gay love affair while in Vietnam will hurt him with the evangelicals and hillary already lost so you will be with all the other losers

Awww……c'mon, Barry, it's gettin' awful crowded under here! At least get us a bigger bus!

Moveon.org isn't any better then the Swift Boat crew the GOP uses…Obama has zero control over who they endorse . The speech he gave today was a man who was speaking from the heart and then for the people still talking trash about Obama. Get over it.

Obama supporter from Fl. You always hit it on the head. Glad you know what people will think of your candidate before they do. You said it all. Figures, with over 130 votes as present, he would avoid a controversy

When will McCain denounce swiftboaters and Fox News?

As at least one of you has already said, MoveOn.Org is necessary. The ad with the baby, Alex, is brillant. I love that little boy as if he were my child. I wish that I could give him a motherly snuggle. I want Alex and all other babies free from unnecessary wars. A vote for McCain is a vote for more wars.. McCain was a prisioner o war. I believe that he will forever be a "prisioner" of war and war is what he lives and breathes.

All Obama is saying is don't WASTE TIME and taxpayer $ debating a newspaper ad.

It not a swipe at Move.on as it is a swipe on those type of political attack tactics

This just proves Barack can't be bought (that's supposed to be a good thing, right?) If everyone thought the MoveOn ad was unfair and Barack DIDN'T say anything about it, wouldn't that look just like the political pandering that we all hate so much? It's not like it was even a very direct or harsh comment – it amazes me how usually all these buzz stories created by the media are based on one sentence and we all spend a week freaking out about it. I'd hate it if everyone were constantly picking apart every little thing I said. The guy's not perfect, we all know that, but I still think he's miles ahead of any other candidate as far as integrity and at least the tiniest glimmer of hope for this country, which is something we've been starving for for the last 8 years.

John McCain may have military experience, and I'm sorry he was in a POW camp, but I don't exactly see how that qualifies him to be president. There's a lot more to running a country than just the military.

Shirley, to your remark I can only say "?????????????????????". What part of this article even touches upon Michelle Obama Or Hillary Clinton when polish and poise are considered? What a ridiculous statement!
And to David Illinois I respond that the one candidate that I clearly saw through was Hillary with her mismanaged campaign that spiraled into debt and resulted in multiple firings, her tall tales such as the sniper fire in Bosnia story, her kitchen sink style attacks and her willingness to stoop so low as to accept money from some 12 year old who had to sell his toys to raise it. You my friend are the sap if you still believe that HRC was the better candidate and I may cry in November but you need to wipe your eyes in July. Get over it.

Obama '08~REAL change we can believe in.

Roger you have said it better than anyone. The Obama supporters just don't get what really went down here. I have never voted for a Republican and don't want to this time but there is no way I can vote for Obama after this party tried to shove him down our throats.

You MORONS just because someone endorses a canfdidate and raises money for them does NOT mean that the candidate endorses them. Ovbama has said over and over he does not like this kind of crap that moveon used against Petraus but that does not mean the Congress should waste their time in writing up a bill to say this is not nice, Congress has better things to do, or should have, and THAT is why Obama did not support the bill and THAT is why is feels confident enough to say to a large supporter that he disagrees with them on this subject, slavish following of ANY group is a sign of weakness and one thing Obama has shown is he is not weak! Thank god the liar hillary is gone so we will not have to hear more pandering from her, now when the idiot mccain (who had a gay affair while in Vietnam) loses this election we will see a President who is actually for the PEOPLE not some 527 or PAC or Lobbyist!

dam, i TOTALLY messed that up, those double negatives get so confusing!

it is unamerican and unpatriotic to blindly support the vile, greedy regime currently in the white house!

it is UNpatriotic to support our occupation of iraq that is killing our troops!

Unfortunately, I suspect comments like this will not win the respect of the right wing (who don't much care what Obama says), but will incur the wrath of the lefties who will feel like they've been hung out to dry.

If Obama is going to criticize groups like MoveOn and supporters like Wesley Clark, he'd better speak out against the false outrage of people like John McCain and also name names of right wing groups.

We don't mind Obama being tough on the left, but he'd better stand up against the right, as well.

hmm, he cant seem throw supporters fast enough… Grandma under the bus check, 2 pastors under the bus check, church under the bus check, wesley clark under the bus check, moveon.org under the bus check, who's next…….who's next Oprah watch your back your ratings are slipping your prime under the bus material.

This is truely great leadership. this Man does not pander. As large and influential as moveon.org is Obama will not compromise his morals or positions. Yet John McCain is pandering to any for right wack jobs he can to win, even changing his once very intelligent and moral positions.

You call this a swipe? The only ones calling Obama Liberal were Republicans, he never tagged himself as a Liberal. Obama fights for what is right according to his values and he's not going to be a Dem. political prostitute.

I used to be a member of moveon.org until they chose to endorse a candidate before the primary season was over. I ask for my money back that I sent to them to fight the Republicans not swiftboat one of their own. I didn't get my money back. This whole Democratic primary season was disgusting that is why I am now an Independent. I wonder how they like their candidate now?

THERE HAS BEEN NOTHING HONORABLE ABOUT

THE WAY MCSAME HAS CONDUCTED HIS POLITICAL

OR PERSONAL AFFAIRS, SINCE HE GOT HOME FROM

THE WAR. LYING, STEALING, BIGOTRY, & SLEAZY ATTACKS

ON HIS OPPOSITION MAKE HIM ANYTHING BUT HONORABLE.

Here we go with the Swift Boat Vets, with Bud Day.

“Heroes do not use their medals for personal political gain. As I said they are not theirs to use." (Sic) Maj. Gen. Patrick Brady

Once again John McCain and Bud Day from the swift boat vets are “seriously collaborating” to use their medals for personal political gain.

Day used his Medal of Honor to weigh in on the controversy surrounding presidential candidate John Kerry's military service and medals. Day was very critical of Kerry declaring that by bringing up his Vietnam service Kerry had "opened up his character as a war hero" for criticism. Day said, "Kerry's character is not only fair game, it is the primary issue."

Day has habitably and fragrantly politicized his Medal of Honor. By using its awe-inspiring prestige as authorization to attack the credibility of other POWs, veterans and POW/MIA family members, he has "opened up his character as a war hero" to questions about the award of his Medal of Honor.

By involving his Medal of Honor in politics and using it as an authority to trash other veterans, Day has "opened up his character as a war hero" for criticism. Day planted the standard for himself when he said that "Kerry's character is not only fair game, it is the primary issue."
Day's character and the legitimacy of his Medal of Honor "is not only fair game, it is the primary issue."

Military regulation requires that before the award of a Medal of Honor can be considered, unquestionable proof in the form of eyewitnesses must be provided.

Day had no witnesses because he was alone. Why was the "eye witnesses" requirement waived for Day?

Who approved Day for the Medal of Honor and did McCain or his admiral father have anything to do with it?

John McCain and Bud Day have formed a political tag team to deflect inquiries about McCain's questionable conduct while in captivity. They have cynically used the Medal of Honor as a shield – but in the process they have stained it.

Every person, business, and organization is capable of making: mistakes, errors, and wrong decisions. No matter who they support they are still capable of doing it. Most politicians won't admit that!!! Most politicians will not admit to their mistakes or mistakes by people who support them. Take Bush and both Clintons for example!!! None of them ever admitted that they or their supportors ever made any mistakes, but we all know they did!!!

Obama is great!!! He admits to mistakes made by him or made by any of his supportors. Obama is the right person to correct all the mistakes made by our past presidents!!! Obama is the right person to correct the mistakes made by the Bush and Clinton Familys!!!

Another great speech!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you Obama

Move-on are pathetic gutter snipes. Dems you are stuck with them, enjoy.

Remember how Clark praised Kerry's military experience as being what is need to be president back in 2004? This pathetic guy needs to shut is cake hole.

Wow! Wes CLark AND MoveOn under the bus in the same day. He must have a detailed and calculated list tracking exactly when someone has outlived their usefulness.

Who's next?

it's patriotic NOT to oppose this occupation!!!

it's UNpatriotic to let this administration get away with everything they've done, they are an insult to our great country!!

if questioning his patriotism is all the repugs and hate-mongers can come up with, bring it on!!! your ugly hate and greed will be irrelevant after november, and then the REAL americans can get back to rebuilding our country and constitution back to what they were!!! buh-bye, haters!

United Democrats! Dream on BHO, dream on!!! You are too far left. You are too liberal. You lie. You're just another lousy politician. Come election time, you will have your Obamatrons and no one else. You and your wife have lost patriotic Democrats like myself. Kiss the Whitehouse goodbye.

obama 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love moveon.org, but i love a man who speaks the truth more!!

Senator Obama has my trust completely. I admire when he lets supporters know they have crossed a line. That is integrity. It is exactly what a friend does for a friend. Barack Obama is honest, intelligent and thoughtful. Go Obama!!!

Obama you gutless coward. You have the nearve to NOW say what Move On did was wrong. NOW??? You are a coward, a gutless low level bottom feeding coward. You could have stood up against them a year ago. You could have said something, anything to say what they did was wrong. But you were gutless then to stand up against the radicals in your party and are more so now that you do months after the fact.

What were you afraid of? Them attacking you with the same venom.

What a brave statement to criticize a nut-case organization like moveon.org.

Abomination 08!

Obama verbally denounced the ad soon after it appeared, as did Clinton. He's being consistent with his ORIGINAL denouncement of it now. Get your facts straight before you look like a moron by thinking you suddenly found 'news'. It's old news that he didn't like the ad. To pretend he 'flip-flopped' on this only shows your ignorance.

He stands by his opinion: It matters not if you support him or not, he will choose better/mature judgement at any cost, as this once again proves. He will choose the high ground before he panders to your vote, get used to it.

He cites himself as a 'flawed' man in many of his speeches, which I personally feel makes him less flawed then any other candidate in almost a generation.

Obama '08

I am a HUGE Obama fan (He is actually a family friend) and I generally agree to his view of "decent" politics. However, after the past 7 years many of us are so angry and disgusted by our government and the GOP slime machine, that we feel we need to fight back without mincing words or worrying about crossing a line. There is too much at stake in this election, probably the most important in modern times. We like that Barack is level headed and is a genuinely decent man, but many of us wish he would play a little less to the middle and support those who are fighting for him and our country. And to respond to so many who think McCain's record is off limits- you are right! He had most of his record sealed from the public and many fellow POW vets are saying he was never tortured (his arms broke during his plane crash) and was actually a traitor. Why else would he have these records sealed and why does he become freakishly defensive whenever asked about the hundreds of pages of sealed information? It is NOT unpatriotic to demand the truth. What is he hiding?! We need to demand his records be open if he wants to be the prez.

GENERAL CLARK IS CORRECT.

ALSO A POW & A HERO ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND THE JOB THE REPUBLICANS HAVE DONE IN

IRAQ & AFGHANISTAN, IS HORRIBLE. OUR ECONOMY IN

SHAMBLES. WHAT EXPERIENCE SHOULD WE ELECT

MCSAME FORE. ALL HE & BUSH HAVE DONE HAS BEEN A

DISMAL FAILURE. WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE OF IT.

Get use to it Mr. Obama.

Why are life long Democrats and liberal leaning or middle of the road American voters not going to vote for Senator Barack Obama in November, should he become the Democratic Parties nominee? The DNC is selling that Party unity is strong and there are no worries in November because the Democratic Party will be completely united. The agenda driven media will give this much more play then it deserves. We know Senator Obama has already pulled the gender card out and told all these life long Democrats “to just get over it” as if this entire group is only bitter women over the age of 40. Just in case it is bigger then just women and does in fact includes men and others peoples groups such as rural Americans, out comes the tired ole race card yet once again as the only reason why these life long Democrats do not want him as the Party nominee and why they will not vote for him in November of course that would be no more true this time then it has been any other time Obama has used his race card tactic.

The real whys have to do with the wrongs done by the DNC toward the membership of their own Party and not all the inadequacies of Senator Obama as a Presidential candidate or even fact that the Party is not putting forward the one candidate that everyone since 2006 has agreed is the best candidate and only sure winner to recapture the White House. All these horrible wrongs by the Party leadership are the unifying force for all these groups of Democrats. These same Party leaderships wrongs is the sustaining power to there PUMA style movement’s commitment of defeating Obama and fixing there Party. It is also what is making this movement a growing movement instead of shrinking movement.

What the DNC and other Party elected leaders do not realize is that this is not just a 2008 Presidential race issue but in reality is a much larger issue and therefore a longer project for the movement. The real issue is the need for re alignment of direction within the Party leadership as a whole. These life long Democrats view this need for re alignment a must happen action, which will most likely mean a change in Party leadership personnel. The pushing forward of the no experience and not near ready yet Obama as the Democratic Parties Presidential nominee is just a symptom of what is really wrong within the Party.

As these life long Democrats watched their Party leaders on May 31st 2008 in the RBC meeting they felt they were witnessing Animal Farm come to life before there very eyes within their own Party. While many setting in the chairs at that meeting were in some way connected to or even part of the struggle to make the Democratic Party a “we the people” Party. Those very same people now as leaders have moved into the farm house and are behaving like those they struggled against. Once again Party bosses rain like the elite and cut deals in back rooms with indifference to we the people’s voice so that once again not all members are given an equal voice.

Every Democratic Party leader or elected official should take note that all these long time Democrats have found their voice and will not abandon their Party, even those who have resigned will be back but only as united PUMA’s. The Party must understand they will be back as Democratic Party PUMA’s with a mission that is well thought out and action plans that are well defined to be carried out until there Party has the corrected re alignment once again.

What this means is that the PUMA style movement will not be over even after Senator Obama’s defeat in November. Other election years as well could be in doubt for any candidate backed by the out of touch Party leadership. How long and painful a process this will be is up to the current Democratic Party leadership. The sooner they get out of the smoke filled back rooms and remember their Party is to be the sentinels of the democratic process of we the people the sooner these long time Democrats will let the PUMA loose in the wild and the Democratic Party will once again capture the White House and stay in control of congress.

A true leader not only has the courage to stand up to his enemies – but also his alies. Obama is a true, honest and brave LEADER!!! This is who America needs people!!!

OBAMA 08 & 12!!!

Perhaps it's a bit too harsh to characterize MoveOn as useful idiots to the Obama campaign, they are the progressive equivalent of Rush Limbaugh, Bill o'Lielly etc, except MoveOn is a bit more accurate.

That said, some of MoveOn's more excessive statements serve to enflame the rabid right wing, who then shoot themselves in the foot with their over-the-top rhetoric.

To that end MoveOn helps Obama, but it is tactically wise for Obama to criticize MoveOn for their actions.

Flip flop, flip flop, flip flop……
Let his true colors shine through!

McCain 08!

Hey Jan – sweetie, how bout going to his website where he SPECIFICALLY states how he will end the war and outlines his plans specifically instead of trashing him with your repuglican mumbo jumbo. He also has his economic, educational, environmental, energy, foreign policy plans…ah heck you name it they are all on his website. Why don't you people investigate or are you just hatin?

I agree in full with Gene several comments up, and I am of the opinion that this is essentially Obama covering the bases so that the "you aren't patriotic" rhetoric doesn't rear its ugly head once more. A wise decision since we KNOW that Senator McCain and the GOP noise machine are already trying and bring it back.

I am a proud member of MoveOn and a proud supporter of Obama '08.

I support Obama fervently and move on whom we need to stop the smears. Obama is not discrediting move on and did not mention them specifically. He just wants a clean political campaign, but folks aren't used to that and try to attack him for it. You go Obama!

Get set all of you die hard Obama fans….here he goes running to the center. First he throws Rev Wright under the bus, then his own grandmother,then he goes back on public $ for the election…on and on…Don't you get it yet????This is just one more slick Chicago Pol. He will do or say anything to try to get elected. Remeber the "change" a new politics? all of you saps who bought that will be crying come November. The man is a liar .

Obama puts his clowns to do a disgrace to vets all over again just like the rep clowns that did this to kerry
and as a vet it hunts all of us
so if you are a vet i would really think about who you will vote for

THE COWARD obama OR Mccain the vet
I know Iwill always have my brothers back demo ( or) REP

Obama/Libermann 08

Texas Trail Dog: More banter from a texas republican–makes me wonder why we don't saw Texas off and float it out into the gulf.

If half of what you scream in your post can be backed up by any fact, then prove it. Republicans are unfit to be president anymore given what Bush has done to this country. McCain is unfit on so many levels I can't list them all except for one: He was one of the Keating 5, and regardless of how that turned out, he was investigated for major fraud. Any one who has that in their history has no right to run for Chief Executive–under no circumstances.

Just saw on the Situation Room where Senator McCain is still offering to go to Iraq with Senator Obama and Senator Obama saying that he knows it is a political ploy of McCain's. I finally figured out why Senator McCain stays out of the country so much – it is to avoid being heckled..

Obama is 100% right: this is the type of game playing the American people are tired of.

I'm not voting for an old grumpy candidate who is treating the Americans like we are fools who can be scared into voting for him and angered by some old grumpy vets who growl out venom Swift boat non-issues. Last time it worked, but not again.

McCain keep proving he just doesn't get it. We are tired of the game playing. We deserve and want more. Our future needs a person with vision and greater depth than an old fart. We need Obama.

Obama realized that if Moveon supports him the same way as they did Kerry in '04 he doesn't have a prayer.

WOW yet again, another speech!!!!!

Its the end of the day… why am i even reading this idle banter?!?!

Michelle has a long way to go to be as lovely, poised and polished as Mrs. Clinton. She has potential.

I am a HUGE Obama fan (He is actually a family friend) and I generally agree to his view of "decent" politics. However, after the past 7 years many of us are so angry and disgusted by our government and the GOP slime machine, that we feel we need to fight back without mincing words or worrying about crossing a line. There is too much at stake in this election, probably the most important in modern times. We like that Barack is level headed and is a genuinely decent man, but many of us wish he would play a little less to the middle and support those who are fighting for him and our country.

Someone will always have something negative to say. If Barack would have voted one way or the other, someone (GOP) would have some mud to sling.

MoveOn stands for something positive and helped Barack during the primary season, yes. Obama never said anything different. He only stood up for the Petraeus which is commendable. Petraeus isn't the one (s) responsible for choosing to go to war, he was only doing his job.

Shows Obama will stand up for his principles and not simply cozy-up to those who support. Compare Bush and his oil cronies

Good enough for them. They threw hillary under the bus for Obama to get they hope their first black elected to office. He fits their bill to a tee. He is a socialist , hates america and has plenty of radical terriost friends. They should have known by now that if Obama threw his typical "WHITE" grandmother who raised him under the bus waht would he do to them when it suited his needs.

McCain's torture = Guantanamo Bay torture

McCain's torture was the result of wrong policy

Same for the Iraq detainees = due to wrong policy

1992 all over again. Remember Bill Clinton's criticism of Sister Soulja. Attempting to convince the middle that he's not a left looney. Obama made one feeble attempt last week talking about black father's taking greater responsibility. Now taking on MoveOn (content is not relevant — it's the act of taking on MoveOn that's he trying to get credit for).

Prediction, there will be many more flip-flops and challenges of the left as Obama moves to the right. But, just like Clinton in 1993, if elected, he'll move back to the looney left. Remember 1993? Despite campaigning on tax cuts in '92, Clinton's first initiative, after gays in the military, was to raise taxes A LOT.

Well, we can blame the media for this one….their stories differ from those provided by the Good General.

DEMOCRATS UNITE!!!!!

Any way the wind blows goes Obama! Yep, that's leadership you can count on! That's self-serving egomania you can count on, NOT presidential material. What's worse, it's downright lies and deception — but that's pretty much how he got everywhere in his political life (with Axelrod, his "brain" pulling the strings)! John McCain looks better all the time, and he doesn't have to "paint" himself a patriot – he IS a patriot.

Sorry Senator Obama – I do not trust you, and I do not believe you. it comes down to trust and your word, and Senator McCain wins that argument, and gets my vote

You don't fool me Obama. Trying to hide behind that pin, you are ridiculous.
You are going down fast. Go back to Chicago where you belong with all your unpatriotic friends.
PUMA PAC

Obama-Clark 2012

He didn't take a swipe at them! He just stated something he disagreed with. People are making more out of this than what it is.

SLOW news day!

back to the McCain service record

I think the media is putting his service in the wrong category

his military experience doesn't qualify him to be Commander n Chief

it qualifies him by underscoring his character and determination.

It does though qualify him to understand what is going on

on the ground and can address those military concerns

but truly if there is a Commander n Chief test

the list

Washington
Grant
Eisenhower

that's the list unless there is another flag officer i am missing

I want to put Teddy Roosevelt but not quite their

I do think if you have the experience it helps in terms of the mind set and how far you can push the military.

But Remember Lincoln and FDR didn't have any military experience

how did that workout

as for attacking McCain like well before 2004

i would say it was stupid

but ask how stupid the American people were to believe the Swift boaters about John Kerry vs 2 guys whom avoided Vietnam

And to think so many thought Obama was so different & a choice for change. He is just another politician that hasn't authored or co-authored one bill since he has been a US senator. Yet having said that he's better then McCain, but we Dems. would have been better off with Hillary. At least we knew what she was about & she would have brought change too.

Maybe he attacked their tactics, but that's not to say they can't change and still be valuable.

Look Obama give it UP. Your no patriot. Everone who with the sense God gave a goose knows what kind of corrupt individual you are. YOU DO THINGS AT ONE TIME THEN YOU COME BACK LATER TO SAY I DIDN'T DO THEM. THEN YOU SAY THINGS THEN COME BACK LATER AND SAY OH YEAH I REMEMBER THAT BUT I DIDN'T NECESSARILY BELIEVE IT. NOW YOU EVEN TRIED TO DENY YOU SIGNED A BILL ON WHEN IS LIFE AND WHEN THERE IS NOT LIFE. YOU SAID IT WAS ALRIGHT TO GO AHEAD AND DISCARD A FETUS EVEN THOUGH THE FETUS SHOWED LIFE. WHAT KIND OF AND IDIOT DO YOU TAKE US FOR? AND WHAT KIND OF A SCOUNDREL ARE YOU.? JUST HOW LOW WILL YOU GO TO GAIN THE OVAL OFFICE? I SHUDDER AT THE THOUGHT OF YOU TRYING TO LEAD US DURING THESE TROUBLING TIMES. AND YOU OBAMA SUPPORTERS PLEASE TAKE AN ENGLISH COURSE. LEARN HOW TO SPELL SO YOU WRITE A COMMENT THAT IS READABLE. QUIT WRITING LIKE YOU TALK. YOU CAN'T ALL TALK AT ONCE.

I don't see him as "trashing" Move On. He is just trying to keep them honest. I am extremely liberal as well, but I do find that Move On can be a bit of an annoyance.

People that overreact on one issue Barack expresses an opinion on just need to realize that he's not turning his back on them. Move on people!

Jan: QUIT WHINING ABOUT HILLARY! It's over. MOVE ON! It will take some time to remove the military from IRAQ. I don't have any illusion that you just pul them all out and that's it. However, you have to start somewhere, which McCain isn't willing to do.

He also went on to say that the dissidents, who speak out against the government are the true patriots. As a member of MoveOn.org, I thought he was talking about me. We stood up against the war and were labeled unpartriotic. We spoke out about Bush, at a time when everyone else would go balistic if you said Bush was bad news. MoveOn has always been protrayed as some kind of well-oiled political machine. It's just common people, speaking out on issues they believe in. The Pertraeus ad may have gone too far, it sure gave Fox Noise something to howl about.

Both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton denounced the MoveOn.org ad against General Petraeus when it first appeared. Obama's criticism today is not something new.

I wish his haters would be intelligent enough to get their facts straight even 10% of the time.

OBAMA '08
YES WE CAN!

I agree Chicago,

I've heard stern criticism coming from Barack addressed to African Americans before. It doesn't mean he's turning his back on the African American community. I think that is Barrack's MO. He likes to let people know he's appreciative of them, but he'll call them out if he thinks he needs too. He also doesn't seem to take himself too seriously. He calls his own canidacy flawed (i.e. in many of his speeches). I like Barack, unlike John McCain or other politicians who will always try to agree with their supporters no matter what stance their supporters take on issues. Barack is real.

These people are paid to VOTE! if you think he decided not to vote because it was political pandering your crazy. If that was the case why didn't he do what hes paid to do and stand up on the floor and say so. he did not vote because it might have been not a politically sound move. or he was playing golf perhaps!!!

NObama and you will do McCain;s bidding, loose your job, take your health care if you have any, let you suffer while China rises.. But at least he will put you in a war in iraq

Obama is now moving toward the center now that the primaries are over. Moveon.org is speaks to his primary side and now he needs to win over the middle. He is no different than any other politician in trying to appeal to whoever's votes he's after. Apparently, he feels, and maybe with some justification, that his loyal voters won't care about this shifts from left to center. Guess the new politics and change is just like the old politics in Washington. Oh well, you get what you pay for.

To Gary:

his comment : "SEEMS THE TRUE COLORS ARE SHOWING ON O.B. HE NOW TRASHES AN ORG. THAT BACKED HIM THROUGH HIS EARLY PRIMARIES. TIME WILL TELL"

Personally.. I think it's great that Obama has the balls to stand up to both his supporters and his opponents. If his supporters start going negative, he puts them in their place… the sign of a true leader.

He did have a big misstep though in my opinion… with Gen. Clark… He shouldn't have apologized and rejected his comments. McCain keeps trying to cram his POW status as experience while constantly bashing Obama for not having any experience. Clark was dead on.. there was no apology needed… Obama should have stood up for Clark on that one and asked McCain for a real response.. not a "that's not fair" stamping his little feet response.

keep your friends close and your enimines closer.

I wonder how Vince Foster would have felt about Hillary being Prez?

So, if he doesn't speak against controversial people who back him, then you people call him untrustworthy and if he does speak against controversial people who back him then you people call him untrustworthy.

Isn't it funny how flexible people can be when their goal is to be inflexible and unsupportive regardless of what he does?

MoveOn.org should move on. Same old politics supporting the same politicians. Obama is a man of his word. He never speaks against another politician; he gets someone else to do that. Is it any wonder his "judgement" is flawless. This guy is as dangerous as Michelle.

Obama should have spoken out during the primary season, but he used MoveOn to get the nomination and now he speaks out against them.

Although it makes me flinch that he would critisize Moveon.org, I can understand that he must make a stand to not tolerate this mess. They don't always put out good reports on people and they can be a loose cannon for his campaign.

MoveOn has been having countless fundraisers in his honor (I get emails from the organization at least once a week touting bake sales for change and the like), so I can't help but be bothered by this. Don't let us down, Obama, many of your supporters AGREE with MoveOn about Gen. Petraeus (my family still calls him General Betray Us).

John McCain called Vietnamese ""gooks" . I hope he doesn't use that language in the white house.

I agree with Obama on this. That ad was more than a little messed up.

I'd love to create an invention that would turn every hateful thought/word/action/blog post into intense physical pain on the part of the hater. It seems like some of you are zealous enough that you'd probably fight through the "shock collar" just to type "Obama's an idiot empty suit racist" and then die curled up on the floor…

Is it all really worth it? Seriously. Take a look inside yourself and at the hate you're spitting all over the place. See if you really get joy from antagonizing people so much. If you do, you're sick and need to be in a mental hospital. 'Nuff said.

Thank you for posting this, CNN.

Obama/Kathleen Sebelius '08

Obama at the time refused to vote to condemn the issue. In September he refused to vote to condemn Moveon.org when he needed them in the primary. Now he flip flops when he doesn't need them. This is not leadership. The headline should be how he flip flopped for political convenience. His word means nothing.

Dear Jan,

If elected, Obama will NOT bring the troops home. You'll see.

I am a serious supporter of Barack Obama and will give my vote to noone but him , but he cannot bite the hand that fed him through the primaries.

So Obama is trying to prove he's not a sock puppet for George Soros?

unlikely.

Biting the hand that feeds? Or more political positioning. The great left wing conspiracy at work.

Obama has been bought and paid for by George Soros and MoveOn.org. He will do their bidding when the time comes.

Sit Barack….roll over….

I used to weigh crab for a living. When we don't have the scale, we have to sense if the crab is going to be meaty or not. Often the large outer shell would not guarantee that the crab will be heavy. What we often do is use a stick and press down on its legs. If it shows strength, it often indicates that it is solid inside.

Obama is a large, decorated shell. When weighed he has little experience; when challenged, he offers a lot of talk. When contronted, he counters us with lies.

why say all this now and not then?

calculating a political move takes time, don't worry we all know

"So I didn't even vote on that vote, I just said I'm not going to vote on this. This is the kind of game playing that the American people are tired of."

so this is kinda like voting "present" right?

calculating a political move takes time, don't worry we all know

this is not change you chump.

Ok GOP fans…if this is what you want from the next president I don't know what you are looking for. I think Barack Obama is trying to run a very honorable campaign and would like the "old" style out! Maybe John McCain will start giving a little credit to him instead of saying that Barack is running the same old politics, and saying "that isn't change we can believe".

I'm a moveon member, and i don't mind a little lecture from Barack. I hope i don't agree with him on everything. Who would i complain about?? He can lecture us all he wants, he's still going to get our vote. Lets challenge each other people!!!!! Its Ok.

take on them Obama. We love you!

Like he said, he's a good politician. He used MoveOn and the entire liberal base to win the primary nomination and now he's either changed positions completley or has moved to the center in order to win the genral election.

What ever happened to the new politics he railed against? He's betraying the very ideals on which his candidacy was based. I thought we were supposed to be watching an end to the 'do or say anything to get elected' era. Ironic that his motto is Change; that's exactlly what he's done.

Obama has attacked everyone by now. He is the messiah! How dare anyone question him, his experience (the messiah needs no experience), his patriotism, his Christianity (it is not important what pew he sat in for 20 years). His only constant is his mantra "DO NOT ATTACK ME; ATTACK THAT OTHER GUY". He believes in nothing, unless it is to his political advantage.

Wesley Clark, Can you tell me how much executive experience your candidate (Obama) has? Oh yeah, wait, John McCain has spent more time in a prisoner of war camp than Obama has been in the Senate…. Talk about deflection.

The GOP will spin it any way they see fit. It won't work this time. All that other garbage they want to pin on Obama won't work either.

Obama 08

Will someone Please PIN THIS MAN DOWN ON THE ISSUE OFWAR!!!! before we vote in November. I want to know EXACTLY what he will do about bringing our troops home. WILL HE OR NOT!!! IM starting to wonder just how deep the politics run. WHERES HILLARY!!!!

That is Obama. Honerable and honest even if he has to confront his supporters. Have we seen this kind of honesty since Lincoln?

Just because they support obama doesn't mean they are not subject to critisism…we try to tell people they are wrong so that they can correct a problem. the republicans, and Bush's inability to understand this concept is why the country is in the wrong direction now.

They helped him, and now he's turning his back on them. He has to move to the center, as if the electorate is so stupid they won't remember he is one of the most liberal senators we have.

SEEMS THE TRUE COLORS ARE SHOWING ON O.B. HE NOW TRASHES AN ORG. THAT BACKED HIM THROUGH HIS EARLY PRIMARIES. TIME WILL TELL

lets get this going guys. obama/clinton 08!

Does John McCain have the moral integrity to do the same and disavow the 527s that abound throughout the Republican party ?
Oh, excuse me, did I suggest that John McCain has ANY moral integrity ?
How silly of me.

more great leadership from a very sharp man.a change is a comin'

And . . . WHINERS talking about how he didn't vote [because the vote was moronic political pandering], but making it sound as though that means (a) he couldn't push the red button if the time came, (b) he has no integrity (I'm sure they'll tie that in somehow), or (c) his lack of patriotism is showing . . . in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . . .

I think Moveon.org is needed to combat the crazy Hannitys and Rush Limbaughs in the world!

CHANGE WOULD BE STAYING FROM SLICK WILLY!!!

MoveOn.org is just a little too left-wing to be effective.

Stop discounting the concerns with your silly snicker and address the questions head on.

Just because you laugh at other peoples' questions and concerns, doesn't make everything "silly." Will you do the same to other national leaders if you are elected?

Stop snickering and address your past!!!