July 3, 2008
Posted: July 3rd, 2008 03:56 PM ET

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 Obama and McCain are viewed favorably...as flip-floppers.
Obama and McCain are viewed favorably...as flip-floppers.

(CNN) – How do voters feel about the two major-party presidential candidates this year?

As the marathon 2008 campaign for the White House enters its final four months, a solid majority views both Sen. Barack Obama and Sen. John McCain favorably. At the same time, a majority of voters also believes both men are flip-floppers who will change their opinions for political reasons. Voters are also skeptical that either man will be able to end the partisan gridlock in Washington.

According to a new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey, 63 percent of registered voters have a favorable opinion of Obama, while 59 percent have a favorable opinion of McCain. Roughly one-third of voters hold a negative view of both candidates.

Compared to President Bush, whose approval ratings continue to hover around 30 percent, both candidates are seen in a remarkably positive light. Judged against the favorable ratings of past presidential nominees at this stage of the campaign, however, Obama and McCain are registering typical favorability numbers.

"In previous elections we have often seen both candidates get favorable ratings over 50 percent at this stage," said CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. "In mid-summer, both parties tend to be unified behind their candidates but the negative ads have generally not yet started."

The poll also shows both candidates improving on their perceived weak points.

The number of voters who think Obama has enough experience to be president has increased by eight points since March (40 to 48 percent), while the number of voters who say McCain cares about people like themselves has increased by seven points (51 to 58 percent).

McCain, however, still holds a sizeable advantage over Obama on the issue of experience, with 76 percent of voters saying the Arizona senator has the right experience to be president. Obama, on the other hand, continues to hold a significant edge on the question of caring, with 67 percent of voters saying the Illinois senator “cares about people like you.”

Do voters believe that the two presumptive presidential nominees are willing to stick their principles regardless of the political consequences? Not exactly.

Sixty-one percent of voters believe that McCain has changed his mind for political reasons; 37 percent do not. Fifty-nine percent of voters believe that Obama also shifts positions with the political winds; 38 percent do not.

That's a change from 2004, according to Holland. “One of the reasons President Bush won reelection in 2004 was that only one-third of voters believed he would change his policy positions because of changing political dynamics. Most voters, on the other hand, believed that John Kerry was a flip-flopper.”

As the general election continues to heat up, charges of flip-flopping and political opportunism are becoming a more regular occurrence on the campaign trail.

On Tuesday, while en route to Colombia, McCain argued, “I don't switch my position depending on what audience or what time it is in the electoral calendar…. I believe that [voters] will more and more see where Senator Obama has switched his positions on fundamental issues. The one thing they want is trust and confidence in their leadership, and I think I will win in that area.”

Campaigning today in North Dakota, Obama replied by saying that McCain “is a person who opposed Bush's tax cuts before he was for them, who opposed drilling in the continental shelf before he was for [it]. [McCain] has reversed himself on a range of very substantive issues during the course of this campaign, and so I'd be happy to have a debate about consistency with John McCain.”

According to CNN Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider, the flip-flopping charge may not resonate as much with voters this year as it did in the past. “So what if voters think both candidates are flip-floppers?” asked Schneider. “After eight years of George W. Bush, voters may welcome some pragmatism and flexibility in their leaders. Times change.”

Finally, the latest CNN poll results indicate that, regardless of who wins in November, most Americans do not believe the bitter partisanship that has characterized national politics in recent years will come to an end.

Only 43 percent of voters believe that Sen. Obama can end the partisan gridlock if he is elected; 52 percent do not. Thirty-one percent of voters believe that Sen. McCain can end the gridlock; 64 percent do not.

The poll, conducted June 26-29, surveyed 906 registered voters and carries a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.

Filed under: Barack Obama • John McCain • Polls


An unknow black man from Canada help blogged 4 Obama since primary.   July 3rd, 2008 8:43 pm ET

Susie, what does Obama flip flop on?

You guys wants to portray Obama in a negative light at all times, if you don't like him or you do not what to say about him please stop.

I have not seen any changes from the Obama camp.

If you guys have no issue to tie him to, you will call him names, he is this he is that. Is there no honest opinion minded person anymore?

Just lease Obama alone if you nothing to say about him. He will win Mccain in general election, Mccain can't keep staff and can't keep his words.

I can tell you that Mccain tried 3 times before he get the reality about house foreclosure crisis.
Mccain does have ability to structure staff and that is dangerious. People need job to support their family, they can't be fired just like that.

Charles   July 3rd, 2008 8:41 pm ET

So let me get this straight. The majority of the people that have responded thus far have Obama as the main culprit of this trend. He changed his mind on public financing, opting to take the money of people who decide to contribute to his campaign personally instead of tax money that people may not want to go to him. He has modified his stance on guns. Yes, that's a bit of a flip flop. big in some eyes, not so big in most. Last time I checked, the economy was the biggest issue and McCain, who once admirably denounced the tax cuts that have us realing right now, embraces them fully and suggests they be made permanent. McCain also opposed drilling for oil, another admirable move. Now he is all for it. Which of these is more important to you? Which of these makes the most difference in the grand scheme? But I guess when you've made up your mind about a person, there's just no changing some people.
And to the affirmative action comment above, you are the problem in this country. You are the reason any minority individual feels hated and abandoned. The fact that CNN posted your comment worries me.

yns   July 3rd, 2008 8:35 pm ET

Hey Peter E... have you noticed the media chose BHO already. He was chosen months ago..... look at how they kept calling for Hillary to get out of the race.

Wake up People.... BHO is another "typical" politician and he will say and do ANYTHING to get your vote.

tom, boston   July 3rd, 2008 8:32 pm ET

AVOID CNN and other CORPORATE MEDIA, and

go to DEMOCRACY NOW and get the truth and insightful analysis.

Iam4mycountry   July 3rd, 2008 8:31 pm ET

Timber: He did not change is mind. He just had to clarify it again today. People don't seem to listen very well. he said he will be as careful getting out as we were careless going in. 1 to 2 Brigades a month so all the troops should be out with in 16months. You also forget one thing. He cannot just pull all the troops out. We already have a bad rep. As it is, at the end of the year; if the Iraqs don't want us there we will have to leave anyway.Obama wants to do this, but he still needs congress to approve it. If republicans get in to the senate and the house enough to get the majority; Obama will have a hard time getting them to bring the troops back. There was a reason why this country was sent up with checks and balance. But it only works if people don't vote an party lines only.

Sherry   July 3rd, 2008 8:24 pm ET

To all you McCain supporters who can leave your blog on fox news...
They wont let me leave mine because I 'm voting for Obama....Fair and balanced?

I think not

Fox news is unfair and unbalanced they talk down about Obama and put McLame up on a pedestal

CNN is fair and balanced

Just deal with it bacause Obama will win by a huge margin

from NH   July 3rd, 2008 8:21 pm ET

I only regret that neither one of these candidates are Independents. To be able to think for your self and not have to be hog tied to a party with ideas that are no longer part of the American dream.

To be able to have the ideal vision of peace and prosperity for our country. To be able to help those that deserve it and stand up to the "freebees" so they have to work for it would be fantastic.

The idea that I was born so therefor you owe me is becoming the slogan of the future. I earned my way and I am where I am today by hard work,saving and not squandering on what I would like but what I needed.

We need to educate the younger generation that they can't have it all or mayb e it is the parents not giving it all to the young generation so they can earn their rights.

DannyCali   July 3rd, 2008 8:18 pm ET

Obama already flip-flopped since he was start campaign and your guy just know now.........? your guy so stupid and don't understand the politic
at all. All the politic when their say and talk I already know that's their are
lie about 90% and when their get President or the job their not even
do what their said in the campaign. This is a liar.....all politician is lied.

perception50   July 3rd, 2008 8:16 pm ET

Well of course CNN favors liberal Democrats because their staff is made up of liberal Democrats.

America's mostly liberal MSM wolfpack press does need to "implement affirmative action programs" to include not exclude more moderates and conservatives............

And we need to go to 100% public financing of Federal campaigns to get the dirty money and influence out of Washington DC.

Timothy   July 3rd, 2008 7:58 pm ET

To all Democrats hold your grounds the Republicans are trying to paint Obama as a flip flopper LOL. Mccain is the Biggest flip flopper his name should be Mccain more of the same flopper LOL.

JIM...TX   July 3rd, 2008 7:51 pm ET

"Flip flopping" if situations change one way or the other OR stay the course come hell or high water......lets flip!

charles   July 3rd, 2008 7:50 pm ET

Where is McCain's flag pin, he must be anti American

Fay Tx   July 3rd, 2008 7:48 pm ET

susie...........Obama kept saying in his speeches he was for change. Within a month he flip-flops on issues. He is unbelievable.Mr Cain
Flip Flop as well..........The sun may shine in the AM and RAIN in the PM .............NEXT!!

Code Blue   July 3rd, 2008 7:46 pm ET

I don't like Obama one bit. But McCain has got to be the worst pick for the Republicans. Is Ron Paul still in it?

Ian M   July 3rd, 2008 7:38 pm ET

I'd appreciate it if CNN didn't use horrible pictures of Obama and McCain.

BLAME MCSAME   July 3rd, 2008 7:37 pm ET

Clinton/McCain...... Remember Obama was suppposed to be different from all the other politicians. McCain never made that promoise. Out you go Obama!You are an IDIOT
McCain never made that promoise......He is too OLD to make a PROMISE and can't remember what he said without Lieberman

RJ, CA   July 3rd, 2008 7:33 pm ET

Loved the bumper sticker I saw yesterday:

ANNOY THE LIBERALS
Work - Succeed - Be Happy!

Surge   July 3rd, 2008 7:33 pm ET

"obama doesnt flip-flop.he adapts responsibly."
"times change, responses change due to current changes."

Sounds like obama apologists making excuses for obama's doing anything he can to get elected.

He changed. He has become what he railed against. He lost his integrity right after he won the nomination and started changing in order to get elected. That's not what we were told we were voting for. The only real question was whether or not he intended to change all along. Given how tightly run his campaign was, I'd say he knew all along he would change once he won the nomination which means he was lying. Like he lied when he said the reason he flip-flopped on public financing was due to the fact that it was a 'broken system'. Even his supporters knew that was a lie.

Now you know what his face looks like when he's lying. That's one thing that doesn't change.

rexx   July 3rd, 2008 7:31 pm ET

Obama is a pure Chicago machine politico. Maybe Jimmy Hoffa can "help" him win. lol. Welcome to President McCain

Saad from NJ   July 3rd, 2008 7:28 pm ET

Likeable and flip-floppers... Oooooook, so what's different between these two versus 75% of the politicians here in the U.S. and 90% around the world? When you look at people like Putin and Zardari, these two are god sent.

Independant , FL   July 3rd, 2008 7:27 pm ET

Obviously the media is not doing it's job if Mccain and Obama are almost even on a flip-flopping poll. To go back on Public financing just makes common sense when you are the unknown candidate and 10% of americans still think you are a muslim. Obama needs the extra money to introduce him self to the voting public. To say tax cut for the wealthy offend your conscience and then change your mind about your conscience is a character issue. Obama changes in position are minuscule in compared to McCain. Even if you think Obama flip-flops you can only point to a couple things.On the other hand:

MCcain flip-flops:
*flip-flopped on finance reform during the primary
*Bush tax cuts for the wealthy
*would vote against McCain-Feingold immigration bill(yes McCain as in John McCain)
*would stay in Iraq 100 years, changed to would be out by 2013
*against offshore drilling , for offshore drilling
* called the religious right, agents of intolerance,then asks for there endorsement, and then rejected there endorsements
*attacked Obama for be willing to meet with our enemies, yet he said , in 2006 on video we should be willing to engage Hamas
*there is the thing about caring for the environment, yet saying we need more nuclear plants and need to drill off shore. (I know if it qualifies as a flip-flop but it sure is contradictory.

Hispanic For McCain   July 3rd, 2008 7:24 pm ET

Hispanic people Yes the LATINOS across this Great nation of ours don't trust OBAMA that right can't trust OBAMA. the Puertorican, Cuban, Mexican, Colombian, and all the Latinos will support and vote for McCain. CNN, MSNBC, and all those Pundit YOU GUYS DON'T SPEAK FOR ALL HISPANIC (LATINOS) about OBAMA winning the Latinos vote don't think so!!!!. There will be alot of Dem Hispanic voter that will go to McCain!!!!

McCain will win OH, PA, MI, FLA, all of the South And the West. The Rep party will send out the DOGS in the next three months!!! So Liberals Dem WATCH OUT AND DON'T CRY!!!!

Lilah   July 3rd, 2008 7:24 pm ET

I like McCain about as much as I would like a tape worm in my gut. And I'll bet the tape worm would be a more worthy candidate.

Chris in Va.   July 3rd, 2008 7:23 pm ET

By all means vote for McCain! He won't stop at the blood of other people's children, he thirsts for the blood of YOUR child also. Concerning Willy's racist comments, I thought the purpose of moderation was to keep this racist BS off the blog.

Lance   July 3rd, 2008 7:23 pm ET

People make no sense

what a great name for your ridiculous comments.

unlike Obama when McCain is the member of an important commitee, he does his job. As the chairman and ranking member of the Armed Forces Comittee it is needed for him to do this.

Samina from WI   July 3rd, 2008 7:16 pm ET

ok cnn..its time to change the pictures of these two candidates..I am sure your photographers would have better file photos than these.

vick   July 3rd, 2008 7:14 pm ET

mccain is the real flip floper

NORA, FLORIDA   July 3rd, 2008 7:13 pm ET

Hmmm and it became a SIN to change your mind....... when????

Dem Switching   July 3rd, 2008 7:11 pm ET

This person writes:

WHY, CNN, why? Why do you keep using that particular shot of Barack Obama? The man is actually photogenic, yet you manage to capture him in one horrible pose and eveidently have to use that picture every day.

I WOULDN'T COMPLAIN ABOUT CNN IF I WERE YOU AND AN OBAMA SUPPORTER, AT THAT CNN LOVES HIM AS WELL AS ALL THE OTHER MEDIA, SO STOP TRYING TO MAKE IT SOUND AS IF CNN HATES HIM, HE IS THEIR GOLDEN BOY. THEY JUST CAN'T COME OUT AND SAY EVERYONE VOTE FOR OBAMA SO THEY ARE SAYING IT OTHER WAYS LIKE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT HIM IN A HIGHER LIGHT THAN ANY OF THE REST OF THE CANDIDATES WHO HAS EVER RUN DURING THIS PRIMARY SEASON.

HENRIE WARE   July 3rd, 2008 7:06 pm ET

MCBUSH IS THE BIG FLIP-FLOPPER CANT BELEIVE ANYTHING THIS MAN SAYS

David   July 3rd, 2008 7:05 pm ET

McCain has changed his position on torture, on tax cuts, on gay marriage, on abortion, on the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday, on whether to embrace right-wing religious leaders like Hagee and Falwell, on whether or not he's an economics expert, on whether or not he meant that we'd be in Iraq for another hundred years, on offshore oil-drilling, on immigration, and on campaign finance.

Obama decided not to take federal funding for his Presidential campaign. He had to hold two press conferences today to make the mainstream media actually listen to him say that he has not changed his position on Iraq AT ALL!

Flippy McSame: 11 Obama: 1

I think that Flippy wins the flip-flop sweepstakes....

Roger from CA   July 3rd, 2008 7:02 pm ET

To "Timber" and the rest of you whining about Obama's position on Iraq, at least state correctly what he said during the primaries: that he would BEGIN withdrawal within 16 months. He didn't say all troops would be home within 16 months, and he always said the nuances were subject to the facts on the ground.

In any event, where exactly has he now said he was backing off that 16-month START for withdrawal??? See the other article. As much as I dispise the Iraq war, I would HOPE that Obama would act in light of the facts on the ground at the time. Naturally, if there was some dramatic change in the circumstances, I would hope Obama would adjust his withdrawal plans accordingly. Otherwise, he would just be like Dubya.... and McCain.

RRRrrrr   July 3rd, 2008 7:01 pm ET

i decided to wear a blue shirt today, instend of the red one i picked out the night before, i guess im a flip-flopper too... nevermind the red shirt had a big stain on it

A nightingale Sings in Berkley Square   July 3rd, 2008 6:56 pm ET

Obama wins the trophy for being a misguided and unprincipled back sider and flipper. Ask his preacher or his Grandma.

BTW, this guy, Obama, has to the idiot of all times.. What does he think will happen, if we unilaterally pull out of Iraq in haste. He has no sense.

Iraq will become easy pickings for Iran to send their terrorists into Iraq and create the kind of atmosphere that some countries found themselves in during the great Blitz Krieg of 1939 -1940 ie Norway, Denmark, Poland, Belgium and Holland to name a few. Hitler wanted to protect these countries from outside enemies and overthrew their legal governments. Iran would do the same to Iraq in a heartbeat.

Let's not let the liberal senator recreate history and lose this valuable resource to the western world.

Give me a break send Obama packing back his ultra liberal roots.

Allen from Hartwell, GA   July 3rd, 2008 6:45 pm ET

Back in 2000 according to pollsters, more people would rather have a beer with G.W. Bush than Al Gore. How'd that work?
Some people might like McCain the senator today, but would they still like him in four years if they elect him as president? My guess is that after four more years of Bush's politics, McCain's voters would be as ashamed for voting for him as Bush voters are ashamed of their past votes.

Peter   July 3rd, 2008 6:41 pm ET

"POTUS is not an Affirmative Action position."

Sounds a bit racist, doesn't it?

Peter E   July 3rd, 2008 6:38 pm ET

These polls... despite the concentrated effort by CNN to paint McCain as a madman and Obama as the second coming of the Savior... I guess they might not choose the president for the public afterall...

al   July 3rd, 2008 6:37 pm ET

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I DONT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH FLIP-FLOPPING. ITS UNAVOIDABLE. EVERYBODY MAKES MISTAKES IT JUST THAT SOME PEOPLE MAKE FEWER AND MORE SERIOUS THAN THE OTHER.

THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS THE REASON FOR FLIP-FLOPPING.
IF YOU FLIP-FLOP FOR PERSONAL GAIN THEN ITS WRONG.
BUT
IF YOU FLIP-FLOP FOR THE GREATHER GOOD THEN I THINK ITS JUSTIFIED.

STOP THE MADNESS. VOTE OBAMA.

tedious898   July 3rd, 2008 6:33 pm ET

America....let's take the less travelled path in voting this year!

Let's just "Vote for the smart guy". We will come out better – I'm sure of it.

Raymond Duke   July 3rd, 2008 6:32 pm ET

Both of these people are flip -flopping Idiots. Since the only canidate with a brain was shafted by the democrat leadership and the news media I guess I will go for the guy with the experience and doen't hate america along with all his terriost friends. John McCain it is. Hold the nose and vote. As far as all those people crying about our soldiers. It is an all volunteer military. If you feel so bad for them you can join. I spent twenty years in the army and it taught me this is the best country in the world even with it s shortcomings and the idiots in washington. Serve this country for four years in the military and you might come to appreciate how good it has been to you. Then maybe you will see Obama and his friends for what they really are, when they say GO@@mnn America and for the first time I am proud of my country. No thank you. I will hold my nose and vote for John McCain.

ET from OMAHA   July 3rd, 2008 6:31 pm ET

THANK GOD THERE IS A NEW TECHNOLOGY CALLED INTERNET.
I KNOW WHO IS FLIP FLOPPING AND I DON'T NEED TO LEARN THAT FROM THE BIAS MSM.
THE SWIFTBOATING CREW IN ON TARGET.
THE MEDIA IS THE CAUSE OF OUR PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTRY NOT THE POLITICIANS.

Jason, Texas   July 3rd, 2008 6:22 pm ET

McCain is like a cake on the griddle... flip.... flop... Obama makes informed decisions that are incredibly timely.

Paul   July 3rd, 2008 6:22 pm ET

I get it. Mc Cain "flip flops", Obama "adapts responsibly". You Obamatrons never fail to amaze. Putting blinders on is one thing. Being totally blind is another.

mike obama   July 3rd, 2008 6:20 pm ET

Obama is absolutely right . He is a candidate of change. Yes he has changed his positions several times depending upon the wind flow. Our ignorant youth followers did not understand what he meant. They blindly followed the pied piper over the mountain, the valleys and tover the hills. It is not his fault when half of the ignorant youths dont know who their state senator is, who their vice president is, who their secretary of state is. They just jumped on the bandwagon of the charasmatic pied piper with socialist agenda selling them snake oil and painting rosy dreams.

U.S. Common Sense   July 3rd, 2008 6:19 pm ET

Where is the full poll results, CNN?

Georgia   July 3rd, 2008 6:18 pm ET

If you're fed up like me, Vote for Ralph Nader '08

Peter   July 3rd, 2008 6:16 pm ET

Truth is both guys have had to switch positions on issues and adapt to the greater good. The difference is Obama has worked his way to the middle and McCain has worked his way to the right.

Who should the President represent? The large number of people in the middle or the the smaller number on the right? Seems simple to me.

carlo   July 3rd, 2008 6:12 pm ET

McCain's campaign has been on a rampage feeding these "flip flop" accusations against Obama, but if you took the time to do a little research, you would find that he has not flip flopped. Would you like another stubborn, head-strong President who is also idiotic like Bush? Then McCain is your guy.

BK   July 3rd, 2008 6:07 pm ET

Obama is not going to get the troops out of Iraq any sooner than McCain. McCain is just honest about it and Obama will tell people anything to get elected. Obama just another politician and I don't trust him. He is now back peddling on everything. He is afraid of a debate. He just wants to spew the rhetoric. I wonder how long its going to take for people to figure this fraud out. His sheep will make excuses for him no matter what he does.

James hussein, SC   July 3rd, 2008 6:06 pm ET

In order to become a leader who is receptive to ALL Americans a candidate must adjust his position and broaden his message. Obama IS dong that. We have just suffered 7+ years of Presidential favoritism. Do we want more of that?

Jaime in Texas   July 3rd, 2008 6:05 pm ET

Obama flip-flops and you all know it, so stop acting like he doesn't.

David Newport, OR   July 3rd, 2008 6:04 pm ET

Since when has changing your mind become synonymous with flip-flopping?

Len   July 3rd, 2008 6:04 pm ET

Obama not only flip-flops, he also flop-flips.

Any position he takes may change hour to hour.

zius   July 3rd, 2008 6:00 pm ET

ILL TAKE OBAMA OVER MCCAIN ANY DAY ANYTIME ...NO TO SENILITY ..YES FOR BRIGHT AND FRESH..THATS .OBAMA 08

wood burns   July 3rd, 2008 5:58 pm ET

With Obama's recent stance on Fisa and Faith based funding, my recent stance on supporting him in this election is changing as well.

Michelle   July 3rd, 2008 5:56 pm ET

The way for Obama to improve on his weak points is to go back to
the Senate. Only 143 days of experience. That's it.

Sick of Bush!   July 3rd, 2008 5:55 pm ET

Why don't you Obama haters just admit that you can't bear to see an African-American be president of the United States of America?

You'd rather see a white McBush while your standard of living keeps dropping, the environments keeps destroying our planet, etc... than to see a darker man really care for everybody, not just the rich and powerful!

Enlightened Voter   July 3rd, 2008 5:55 pm ET

Hey Val and all you Mccain supporters – GOD bless and protect you cause if he gets in your gonna need all his protection, blessings, prosperity that he can give and I still don't know if that will help.....good luck guys, you'll need it.

Ed, Fl   July 3rd, 2008 5:54 pm ET

As a diehard Obama supporter, I can say for real they both flip flop. But i guess it is no news, that's the way that it usually goes as they are approching the general elections.

TonyinKentucky   July 3rd, 2008 5:49 pm ET

McCain has flip/flopped on his entire "Maverick" image and more so the Constitution, in order to pander to the neocon right.

Unless he plans to flip/flop on the Republican platform, then he is nothing short of toxic to America, her citizens, and her ideals.

Annette, Washington, DC   July 3rd, 2008 5:49 pm ET

Who coined the phrase flip-flopping? If every item word a man say will be judged by the media?? then who will judge the media? McCain has changed positions from his last run for president to now. A 360 degree change with no premise as to why? Obama premise has not changed. We are in Iraq, with no premise? We need to get out of Iraq, as Obama has said all the time, we need to be careful getting out of Iraq, just as careless as were going in. Now, careful to me means judging all aspects of the situation before doing anything. However, McCain has said as long as 100 years, and then back to 5 years. What do you call that?

Peter E   July 3rd, 2008 5:48 pm ET

To Jessy from Florida: I respect your entry because at least it addresses issues. That's way better than what the main stream media does.
I also agree with you about McCain being wrong on several issues.
What I disagree with you on is that Obama is a better choice. He's not.
Yes, Obama's dubbed the anti-war candidate, and his rhetoric seems to support that. However his record doesn't. He has a number of times voted for continued funding for this war.
Obama himself has changed positions on NAFTA in the past too. Not to mention him breaking his word on Campaign Finance reform.
As for the gas-tax-holiday, I would agree with Obama on saying no to it because it is indeed just a short-sighted spending that will do nothing for the economy while driving up deficits... yes I would... except within one week Obama came up also with an 'economy stimulus package' of billions of dollars of short term spending to pump up the economy which would also just be another deficit spending.
I agree with you about off-shore drilling, even if the majority of America does not.
So yes, I would agree with Obama on some of these issues if I could trust him. But his record tells a different tale.
I am not voting for McCain, but you can't argue to me that Obama is any better choice.

Carrie USMC   July 3rd, 2008 5:47 pm ET

I am a democrat now first and foremost,and before I give my vote to the republican I will vote my financial, gas, home, healthcare, education interest,and the democrat will best serve those needs.
BUT I want Mr. OBAMA to note that I am saddened by his lastest stances. I will vote democrat in Nov.but my enthusiasm level has been drained.

Nija   July 3rd, 2008 5:47 pm ET

AFTER KING GORGE (II) IS GONE, HIS UNCLE McCAIN THE (III) WILL SUCCEED THE THRONE. LONG LIVE THE BUSHES AND McCAIN FAMILY

zius   July 3rd, 2008 5:46 pm ET

VOTE MCCAIN AND YOU HAVE YOUR SELF TO BLAME .....BELIEVE ME YOULL FELL VERY INSAN ...AND ASHAMED..(FROM THE BOKE OF MCSAME) ..........................I WILL NOT PUT MY COUNTRY IN MORE TURMOIL ...I ...WILL ....VOTE .....OBAMA

will   July 3rd, 2008 5:42 pm ET

this is absurd. the opposite of flip flopping is stubbornness. if no politician ever changed position we would still have, slavery, no rights for women, legal drugs.....well i guess that would be ok.

Cracka lova   July 3rd, 2008 5:40 pm ET

the Obama 16 withdrawal was clearly not gonna happen in 16 months when he commented during a debate that he would consult with the boots on the ground in cjarg in Iraq.......It is ironic how the GOP will cry over the most petty things knowing this war was initiated on their watch......and they can't touch Obama with a ten foot pole because Hillary did him a favor by airing his dirty laundry during the primary so they are trying to make similarities between their candidates weakness and Obama
Nice try but only hate filled Americans can buy into the nonsense

Peter E   July 3rd, 2008 5:38 pm ET

These polls, if reliable (and we've learned this past primary season, they're not) only show two things:
The media has not given enough information about the candidate's stances and records for people to genuinely distinguish them, and people place too much trust in media hype and don't want to think for themselves.
Seriously, did you count the number of articles the main stream media presented on issues lately, compared to the ones that talk about irrelevant campaign strategies and personal stuff?
No wonder people have no clue!

Anita from Arizona   July 3rd, 2008 5:38 pm ET

Flip Floppin is a lot better than the STAY THE COURSE crap we've been spoon fed for eight years, but McCain has not shown that he is any different from Bush and any of his policies or what he stands for. How do I know for sure McCain will not Stay the Course when he is endorsing Bushes tax cut, oil drilling offshore and hiring his advisors to his campaign? Don't give me that crap offshore driling is a START is the Right direction speech. Yeah, if you want to stay a crack head for oil then lets keep feeding our habit.

RAY SF   July 3rd, 2008 5:37 pm ET

THAT PICTURE OF OBAMA LOOKS LIKE SHE SHOULD HAVE DROOL RUNNING OUT THE SIDES OF HIS MOUTH ! He looks a little mentally challenged in that picture. Finally a picture that reflects the candidate!

Peter E   July 3rd, 2008 5:34 pm ET

Obams represents change! Specifically: changing his position on just about everything about once a month!

Dave   July 3rd, 2008 5:34 pm ET

lol, Obama says the surge isn't, can't, and will never work. Now he is open to changing his Iraq policy because it IS working. It shows an incredible lack of judgement. McCain supported the surge, and had to drag the Bush administration to the policy. I look forward to Obama congratulating McCain on a well thought out stance on Iraq since he his willing to change his policies now, and admitting he was just plain wrong.

McCain stance on Nuclear energy and a 300 million dollar prize for developing a battery pkg. for eletric cars is the right thing to do and is more forward thinking to end our addiction to oil, than anything proposed by Obama.

keith   July 3rd, 2008 5:34 pm ET

Well, I guess MoveOn and the extreme left now have a sick feeling in their stomach. Now they know how I have felt for the last 6 months.
Flip-flop = PANDERER. There is still time to get the best candidate in...Denver....Hillary!

Peter E   July 3rd, 2008 5:33 pm ET

Polls are for people who don't care about issues and who want to be told what to think.

Jeremy   July 3rd, 2008 5:32 pm ET

The politicians flip-flop and so will the voters. My choice will be the candidate whose current stance is most congruent with my own. Since I don't make more the $250,000 I think you all know who I will be voting for.

mitchell hussein martin   July 3rd, 2008 5:32 pm ET

obama doesnt flip-flop.he adapts responsibly.mcclame flip-flops.

Peter E   July 3rd, 2008 5:31 pm ET

Let this be a warning to Obama supporters: your hatefest does not work on McCain!

Peter E   July 3rd, 2008 5:30 pm ET

People are talking about partisan gridlock as if it were a bad thing...
Think about it this way: the more time they spend stonewalling and screwing each-other the less time they have destroying the country!

Fish, MN   July 3rd, 2008 5:30 pm ET

This is a typical general election mode of Republican campaining point. Every four years they come with the same issue of flip-flop, patriotism, religion, and different types of name labeling as liberal, communist, and the like, to paint their opponent's image as someone who he doesn't want to be refered as. Media easily falls for that as they always need hot topics and controversies for their rating. I get frustrated when I find such news.
WHEN WILL THIS END? WHEN WILL WE ACT AS A TRUE GENUINE CITIZENS THAT FOLLOW COMMON SENSE TO BE DECENT ENOUGH? WHO IS GOING TO TRUST THIS TYPE OF CAMPAIN STRATEGY WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY OF GOVERNMENT?
I tell you guys, the real issues are what real people are faced in their daily life, and we'll only know that in November.

Janey/Michigan   July 3rd, 2008 5:28 pm ET

McCain is traveling to other countries because it is important to portray America as a world power who will cooperate to stay that way. Maybe, "people make no sense" should move to a less patriotic country. McCain is a patriot who would protect us and wants to make sure the world knows that!

Love Huckabee   July 3rd, 2008 5:27 pm ET

CNN is a tabloid like Fox. For the record, Obama's only "flip" and it wasn't really because he said he'd work with the Republicans on finance.

John Mccain is a snake. He talks about being honorable, but he's a lying hot headed Irish white guy, who's got a horrible temper with no plans. To be honest, he's in the same ship with Hannity, O'Riely, Limbaugh, and others. What do they have in common? Hot headed angry white men, which no solutions.

I'd even take Hillary over them!

fighting the smears   July 3rd, 2008 5:26 pm ET

Honestly, anyone who is going to run for office is going to change their minds about things, so I don't understand the whole flip flopping charge. But if anyone wants to compare the amount of flip flopping on issues that Obama has compared to McCain, please go ahead and as long as your honest, you'll realize who the true Flip flopper is (hint, its not Obama).

Bob S Philadelphia, PA   July 3rd, 2008 5:23 pm ET

As a life long democrat this year i will spend my time and money try to help John McCain win the election. There is NO WAY I will vote for Obama he is a flip flop and I don't feel I can beleive anything that comes out of his mouth, It's hard to beleive him when he talks out of both sides of his mouth. I would rathe have 4 more years of George Bush then to vote for Obama.

GO McCain "08"

Daniel   July 3rd, 2008 5:22 pm ET

Obama is a joke. Grow up.

Loretta from California   July 3rd, 2008 5:21 pm ET

Well, John McCain Flips and flops on every issue. Oil drilling, immigration, 100 years in Iraq.......and the list goes on and on..

DEMOCRATS UNITE!!!

not important   July 3rd, 2008 5:20 pm ET

Well Mcbush flip flops more. Plus Mcsames economic advisor is Phil Gramm.

Truely a Democrat   July 3rd, 2008 5:19 pm ET

Barack has NOT changed his position on bringing the troops home. CNN just reported this information on the Ticker prior to this one. Please be fair in your comments on Obama. Afterall, he WILL be the next POTUS.

Obama 08

Travis (in the real world   July 3rd, 2008 5:19 pm ET

McWar wins this hands down. I'm keeping track and McSame does it at lease twice a day. Or was it "I mispoke " ( that's a catchall phrase.)

Let's call a spade a spade......McWar is lying through his teeth every time he opens his mouth.

Griff   July 3rd, 2008 5:19 pm ET

Flip/Flop... Barack Obama is the expert to talk about Military Enlistments for the Furure of the USA. A none combatant, talking to Prog's on how to defent their Country. A guy with no Military Training.... That Flip/Flop, would work on no Circuit Board.

Farrell, Houston, Tx   July 3rd, 2008 5:18 pm ET

McCain wants to retire as president, a lot of good that will do the country. Obama isn't looking at retirement, but a better future for America. I'll stick with Obama who is the future of our country.

km   July 3rd, 2008 5:18 pm ET

When Obama flip flops it's because circumstances have changed. When McCain does it it's because he can't remember what his orginal position was.

Bayou Joe   July 3rd, 2008 5:17 pm ET

Flip Flop Flip Flop. Do I hear Kerry's footsteps here. Oh no now
Obama is changing his tune on Iraq. Will the Real Barak Obama please stand up.

mitchell hussein martin   July 3rd, 2008 5:17 pm ET

just because you say obama flip-flop doesnt make it true.obama has been consistent on his positions throughout his candidacy.republicans lie!

aware   July 3rd, 2008 5:17 pm ET

Obama cares about changing America to fit his image of what it should be.

Obama envisions a nation that keeps people in victim, dependent mode (easier to control) instead of victor mode. His give-a-ways will result in an American deficit of 1 Trillion dollars! :(

These are the tenants of Liberation Theology, hard core Liberals, Progressives and Multiculturalists! This is the ideology that will continue to send America into a downward, backward spiral in an Obama presidency!

Indiana   July 3rd, 2008 5:17 pm ET

McBush is a FLIPPER FLOPPER. A real FLOPPING FLIPPER. I mean today its Mcflipper and tomorrow, yup, you guessed it, its Mcflopper. Obama just flips a little here and flaps a little there...never flopps.

Mike   July 3rd, 2008 5:14 pm ET

OK, So polls say they are both likable and flip flop. But one of them,McBush, admits to knowing nothing about the economy and pledges to continue the war in Iraq indefinitly.

Jessy From Florida   July 3rd, 2008 5:12 pm ET

To all of you McCain supporters out their, let me see if I got this straight.

You would rather vote for a man who supports the Iraq war [which has already killed countless lives in just 5 years], who would put oil rigs in the very waters that supply our fishing industry, who would most likely get us involved with a war with Iran, who even admitted that he doesn't know how to run the economy [let along a computer], and who supports NAFTA [a mismanaged organization that resulted in countless job losses in the blue-collar states]? Are you all serious?

You would all rather vote for a such a man over Obama? Have you even read his proposals on his website? He has all of them outlined for everyone to read and they are very sound and justified.

I for one am against McCain's proposal for the off-shore oil drilling because we as Americans have to learn to not only ween ourselves from foreign oil, but from oil altogether. Creationg those off-shore drilling platforms will not only encourage a negative habit [our dependence on oil] but they will have a negative impact on the fishing industry.

I am against the "gas-tax holiday" that McCain proposes because of the fact that world demand for oil will only grow as fast as we can save money on gas. Therefore, the gas-tax holiday is pointless and the difference in savings will be little to none. That's why we as a nation have to set an example to the whole world that we Americans will be soon be INdepedent from oil. By setting up oil platforms off shore, we're sending the wrong message to the world that we Americans are too lazy to ween ourselves from oil. Looks at China, China's economy is a copy-cat of our own and look at how much oil they are consuming because of us.

S Liles   July 3rd, 2008 5:12 pm ET

To the slimey snake commenter. Get over it Hater. You "will" have a Black president in January 2009. Like it or lump it!.

SANTE   July 3rd, 2008 5:11 pm ET

BASED ON HIS "EXPERIENCE" HE / OBAMA/ IS CHANGING HIS POSITIONS!!??

Noooo... , THIS GAY IS READY TO DO AND SAY ANYTHING , JUST TO BECOME A PRESIDENT, OR..
HE IS A PUPPET!!

SENATOR McCAIN IS A REAL MAN!!

ron   July 3rd, 2008 5:10 pm ET

obam tried to totally destroy Hillary Clinton's credibility he ridiculed her he misquoted her accused both her and her husband bill of playing dirty politics, did everything he could to discredit her. NOW that it seems he can't get elected without her support she as become WONDER GIRL, and cannot say enough nice things about her, almost to the point of making us think we chose the wrong nominee. give him credit where it's due, but tell it like it is if we elect this guy we have to live with it and he does do a lot of flip flopping

@HusseinIsAmerican2   July 3rd, 2008 5:09 pm ET

John McShame put Mexico and Colombia first by going there to dine and wine with drug lords and trade lobbyist; his campaign financial donors.

Instead of talking about creating jobs for americans by americans; he is going to Mexico and Colombia to sell american jobs & souls to the devil. the same countries that George Bush outsourced american jobs to!

Shame on John McSame!!!!!

Lynn E   July 3rd, 2008 5:09 pm ET

Both these guys are losers. Obama actually won a primary against a more qualified candidate because he claimed to be different as in "not a politician". He does need to go. Mc Cain can stay as the best Republican, but do we want either of these guys? I think the Democratic convention needs to choose someone else and find someone who is qualified and a centrist with a slight leftist bent. We have a guy now who loves the extreme left and right without having tolerance for the center at all.

Ardnuas   July 3rd, 2008 5:08 pm ET

ONLY a FOOL refuses to change his mind if he gets new information on a subject. McCain is FULL OF ANGER, AND LACKS JUDGEMENT.
Obama/Biden08

Andrew Abramowitz   July 3rd, 2008 5:04 pm ET

Maybe if Obama picks Hillary as his vp choice many of her supporters will come back to the democrats. Thats why McCain is doing very good in the polls because he has many of her supporters. One good thing about McCain if he wins in the fall, Hillary will run again in 2012. People were so hungry for change they just went for the guy how said it the most and didn't bother thinking who was the most experienced and best choice for president – HILLARY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tedious898   July 3rd, 2008 5:03 pm ET

Vote for the smart guy!

Mrs.L   July 3rd, 2008 5:01 pm ET

Brad from SC you are the only one on this blog that has any common sense. The rest of you people need therapy, Oh and who ever "People make no sense" is I agree with you also.

What a bunch of followers: Wake up and realize we are all doomed if Mc Cain wins.

None of you, (US), Society can survive another 4 years of the current situation.

WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oops   July 3rd, 2008 4:59 pm ET

I Wish people were more open to switching positions on issues. Issues always come up where different perspectives or ideas may change your view. Both candidates have done it good or bad. It’s actually a healthy thing to see since they are not so stubborn to think that their stance is always correct.

You can't just rip a band-aid off the wound and hope it is healed.

RW   July 3rd, 2008 4:59 pm ET

The important question is "can Obama change the way things are going now for the better ?" Now if is YES, and I think he can, dont really care how many times he flip-flops, its all good.

Vignesh   July 3rd, 2008 4:58 pm ET

Well I think Obama is changing his mind on some issues, because he looks too liberal for the general election, and if McCain becomes more centrist, obviously IMO he would be a better choice, especially if he was a little more lenient of getting out of Iraq ASAP.

Nick   July 3rd, 2008 4:57 pm ET

Furthermore, even though "flip-flopping" is the hot new political cliche, it lacks a clear definition. Is changing your stance on any issue in anyway a flip flop? Or does it have to be a complete 180 in your stance? Or is a change in campaign strategy? The same goes for "swiftboating". Does this include any negative attach against another candidate? Or is it only when the victim of the attack claims it is a lie? Or does it only apply to denegrating military service? Or is it only when a poll shows that people consider an attack "swiftboating"? Never the less, these buzz words provide little to the political debate. In my opinion, they are only used to make relativley uninformed voters feel smart.

Vietnam COMBAT Vet, OHIO   July 3rd, 2008 4:57 pm ET

McSame can't end the gridlock, he is one of the major gridlockers!!!

Mark   July 3rd, 2008 4:56 pm ET

I can't stand the term "flip flop" any more! Karl Rove coined the phrase and made it and every day talking point. I'm amazed at hos Democrats use the term against each other now.

Cynthia - Arkansas   July 3rd, 2008 4:56 pm ET

McSame got caught yesterday in an outright LIE. When called on it, he wasn't even man enough to admit it. Wake up call to McSame:
Since the internet does exist, everything is on video now and is easy to find. Just pretending you didn't say something, doesn't make it so.

We have had way too much of this with Bush!

Go Obama!

Susan   July 3rd, 2008 4:56 pm ET

Obama's flip-flopping all over the place, so CNN steps in with a bogus poll about "both candidates" being perceived as flip-floppers. The bias is so transparent, it's sickening.

Avoc   July 3rd, 2008 4:55 pm ET

Mccain: “I don't switch my position depending on what audience or what time it is in the electoral calendar"

.... ahahahaha... oh man, thats rich.

libertyjack, Fort Myers   July 3rd, 2008 4:55 pm ET

They are flip floppers.
But I don't like the ideology or the strategic ideas of either one of them.

You don't have to hold your nose when you vote.

Libertarians 2008.

If you're tired of the same old party lines drawn up for them by their special interest handlers-take a look at our agenda and pledge.
Real change is only 4 months away if you want it.

arc, Lugano CH   July 3rd, 2008 4:54 pm ET

Willy:

You forgot to throw in the standard “Elitism”, “His middle name is Hussein”, “Throw Under The Bus” and “Wright’ tags to your post. Make sure you include those next time. And you also forgot to call yourself a Puma.

Johnny   July 3rd, 2008 4:53 pm ET

If McCain flips pancakes as well as he flips positions, he should be president of IHOP.

Dave   July 3rd, 2008 4:52 pm ET

Now we are stuck with flip-flop Obama. The truth about him is coming to light. I can not believe that it was less than a month and now he is just enough politician. Where is the change message. In addition, he is more like Bush than McCain. He is turning his back on the very people who put him where he is.....I am speechless. I knew it was too good to be true. What a disappointment!!!!!!

Ellie in Aurora, CO   July 3rd, 2008 4:52 pm ET

Does anyone think polling is accurate anymore with the use of cell phones instead of landlines? Not sure how you get around this, but seems like there is a whole segment of the population that never gets polled – and a pretty vocal one in this election cycle! This is really the first election where the cell crowd will make a huge difference.

Also, on the major issues, Obama HAS NOT changed his stance. His webite has had this stuff documented for months now.

Belle   July 3rd, 2008 4:49 pm ET

Obama only wanted to win the primary....mission...take all of Clinton's issues and agree with them....after mission accomplished, show you are no different than any other politician....Obama, change we can believe in?

Sure...he changes to fit his own personal power goals. Forget about the Blue collar workers...NAFTA and WTO are fine....forget about campaign finance laws he supposedly supports...money speaks faster...forget about pulling out of Iraq....Clinton said she would have troop withdrawals in the first 60 days....now Obama knows the surge is working...so instead of trumping "I'm right" now it is whatever I feel is appropriate....

Wow....and he thinks we are so stupid we won't remember his promises because he has a wonderful smile, great family, and now controls the DNC, and moves to the middle, just like every other politician.

Nick   July 3rd, 2008 4:49 pm ET

What has Obama policy issue "flip-flopped". I don't see the public finance as a flip flop, as it is only relavent to the campaign itself, not any policy or issue that will be pushed as president. It was stupid for him to say it during the primaries as we have learned that every candidate has used public financing since its inception. It wasn't really a bold pact to introduce to begin with.

The Blind Lady of Justice   July 3rd, 2008 4:48 pm ET

Confronted with inconsistencies in McCain’s record the senator’s aides told the New York Times that the senator “has evolved rather than switched positions in his 25-year career.”

That’s a perfectly sensible spin — when a politician holds one position, and then, for apparently political reasons, decides to embrace the polar opposite position, it’s only natural for his or her aides to say the politician’s position has “evolved.”

But in McCain’s case, the spin is wholly unfulfilling.

First, McCain sells himself as a person, not a politician, who never sways with the wind, and whose willingness to be consistent in the face of pressure is proof of his character.

Second, Republicans have spent the last four years or so making policy reversals the single most serious political crime in presidential politics. The dreaded “flip-flop” is, according to the GOP, the latest cardinal sin for someone seeking national office.

McCain flip-flops.

* McCain supported the drilling moratorium; now he’s against it.

* McCain strongly opposes a windfall-tax on oil company profits. Three weeks earlier, he was perfectly comfortable with the idea.

* McCain thought Bush’s warrantless-wiretap program circumvented the law; now he believes the opposite.

* McCain defended “privatizing” Social Security. Now he says he’s against privatization

* McCain wanted to change the Republican Party platform to protect abortion rights in cases of rape and incest. Now he doesn’t.

* McCain thought the estate tax was perfectly fair. Now he believes the opposite.

* He opposed indefinite detention of terrorist suspects. When the Supreme Court reached the same conclusion, he called it “one of the worst decisions in the history of this country.”

* McCain believes the telecoms should be forced to explain their role in the administration’s warrantless surveillance program as a condition for retroactive immunity. He used to believe the opposite.

* McCain supported storing spent nuclear fuel at Yucca Mountain in Nevada. Now he believes the opposite.

* McCain supported moving “towards normalization of relations” with Cuba. Now he believes the opposite.

* McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Hamas. Now he believes the opposite.

* McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Syria. Now he believes the opposite.

* He argued the NRA should not have a role in the Republican Party’s policy making. Now he believes the opposite.

* McCain supported his own lobbying-reform legislation from 1997. Now he doesn’t.

* He wanted political support from radical televangelists like John Hagee and Rod Parsley. Now he doesn’t.

* McCain supported the Lieberman/Warner legislation to combat global warming. Now he doesn’t.

McCain is too old   July 3rd, 2008 4:48 pm ET

Hey Timber,

Your gal Hill said she would pull troops REGARDLESS of what military leaders said!!!!

Oh yeah, and while we are on the subject, Hilly LOST...move on and grow up. You think McCain is going to end the war?!!

McCain is too old   July 3rd, 2008 4:47 pm ET

Hey Timber,

Your gal Hill said she would pull troops REGARDLESS of what military leaders said!!!!

Oh yeah, and while we are on the subject, Hilly LOST...move on and grow up. You think McCain is going to end the war?!!

Don't Blame Me... I voted for Bush...   July 3rd, 2008 4:46 pm ET

This is what the bumper stickers said when Bill Clinton won the office over George Bush...

The Economy got better and jobs were building... The deficit started going down "a bit"...

Then silly people got a hold of little Bush and now your unemployed and yet you'll still vote for a guy that stated "I don't know much about economic"?

Wow, keep driving the nova's and the chevy's and vote for McCain... in 4 years you'll still be driving the same old "hoopty".

Women for Obama   July 3rd, 2008 4:45 pm ET

Timber, we can only see what a SNAKE McBush is. He is the most foul mouth, hot headed person that has ever graced the floor of the Senate. He lies–inspite of the video tapes that follow you around forever. He's either incoherent, senile or just a lying SNAKE. Probably a combination of all three.

HD   July 3rd, 2008 4:44 pm ET

Look folks – Obama has to move to the center in order to get the most votes (from liberals, independents, republicans, evangelicals) He's slow-rolling his position just enough so when he get to the White House, he can then revamp everything fresh. It's a knife-edge, I'll admit, but it is a sound strategy, if we the people take the time to understand it.

Ole Dubya was not a flip flopper and look where it got us. We are humans, and the smart ones from time to time will adjust positions somewhat.

He is already invoking change by planning Religious Rock concerts and Evangelical house parties for people to come out and meet and discuss the issues, and get involved. What Liberal Democrat would have the vision (or balls) to do that? Other folks besides hardcore Dems DO vote, you know. Have some patients, watch closely and see how we/Obama set this whole thing off. Time to stop the partisanship, be smart.

-Lifelong Dem

Enlightened Voter   July 3rd, 2008 4:44 pm ET

Obama has not flip flopped on one issue including the presidential financing which he simply opted out of, he never said he was definitely going to take it. Mccain on the other hand........

Nick   July 3rd, 2008 4:42 pm ET

conservatives like john mccain love to talk about their love for america. they are in love with an abstract idea. they don't care about the people in america, but an abstract notion of 'what america is'. what is it? it's pretty diverse, i think, and to say it is 'either this or that' is very problematic.

Amarissa   July 3rd, 2008 4:42 pm ET

I think the trophy goes to Obam! He promised "Change" but he didn't explain that it was his constant "Change" of mind that he was referring to!
Thank you Media, thank you superdelegates, thank you Texas for your Caucuses, thank you Howard Dean for your biased laws on Florida and Michigan votes and thank you so much Ms Pelosi for your kind words regarding Hillary should concede and get out so your rookie candidate cheat his way as the primary winner(?).
Amarissa, Florida

Pat Riot   July 3rd, 2008 4:42 pm ET

We honestly cannot believe a word Obama is saying. His Santa Claus campaign promises everything to everyone. Now he is on the side of big taxes, FISA courts, large corporations and special interests.

s.positive   July 3rd, 2008 4:41 pm ET

Obama is the next president of united States folks...

Vietnam COMBAT Vet, OHIO   July 3rd, 2008 4:40 pm ET

Say what you want about Obama, so he flip-flopped a few times. How about John McFlip-Flopper? Been flip-floppin for over 30 years. He was flip-floppin in the Hanoi Hilton to get special treatment!! McTraitor can never be trusted. Go Obama!!!!!!

Kate, Atlanta   July 3rd, 2008 4:40 pm ET

Another reason to hate Bush (as if another reason was actually needed) – popularizing the term flip-flop! A candidate can not take in new info and evolve an opinion on what to have for dinner without being accused of this all-powerful-reason-not-to-elect stupidity. If a candidate goes back on his word for political purposes only, then call them on it – but not everything is a "flip-flop". Yep, I really hate Bush.

wiser   July 3rd, 2008 4:39 pm ET

Change we don't believe in! Senator Obama changes with the latest poll. As his pastor said he is a politician. Senator Obama has no experience, original ideas, and can't be trusted.

Actions do matter, more than words, words, words!

Democrats for McCain 08

Ted from Florida   July 3rd, 2008 4:37 pm ET

Hmm I thought Obama is the candidate of change ??? Yeah right !!!
You Obama idiots are bunch of suckers along with the bias news media !!!!!

Anonymous   July 3rd, 2008 4:37 pm ET

wat politician doesnt flip flop or lie to the people at least once.
but i believe obama would become a better president then mcCain

OBAMA 08!!!!!

Justin   July 3rd, 2008 4:37 pm ET

There's no more unity. I am beyond disappointed now. I even moved past sad and upset. I'm just plain angry and disgusted now. I tried to give Mr. Obama the benefit of the doubt and I even kept open the possibility of voting for him. But he has show within the past month that he will do nothing but lie, lie, lie. His whole candidacy has been built on lies.

Iraq is the final flip-flopping straw. He used that issue to knock the best candidate to the ground over and over. It's a crying shame that the Democrats let this man (to use his words) Bamboozle and Hoodwink them. McCain just picked up another vote. There is no way on God's green earth I will ever pull the lever for him now. And not only that, I will do everything I can to make sure he doesn't get elected. I would vote for Satan himself before this liar.

NObama. No way. No how.

Marc   July 3rd, 2008 4:35 pm ET

Wish you guys could take back your vote for Obama now? This guy just panders back and forth given the political climate. He hasn't even been elected yet and I'm ready for a CHANGE.

Bryce   July 3rd, 2008 4:35 pm ET

Flip flopping happens to all candidates, and most notably John Mccain. In 2000 Mccain did not support offshore drilling, later he sponsored immigration legislation which he voted against, he is against his own Mccain-Feingold lobbyist reform bill, said gay marriage should be allowed and then said off camera they shouldnt be, went againt his support of education of alien minors, supported roe vs wade and then changed that, flipped on negotiating with North Korea and cuba, military against rogue states, torture, telecom immunity, tax cuts for the rich and estate tax, privitization of social security. Where does it end? At least with obama we have someone less tainted with partisan/popular politics.

John   July 3rd, 2008 4:35 pm ET

People have short memories.

Bush flip flopped in 2000, quickly transitioning from the "candidate for conservative values" in the primaries to claiming to be "a moderate for the people" during the general campaign. Welcome to electoral politics in the two party system.

Val: you'd rather have a "President who can stand up and protect our country?" What do you think McCain will be out on the front line with an M-16? Much better to have a coolheaded individual, a la JFK, who avoids conflict rather than instigating it with some shortsighted fantasy that war is the solution to ideological difference.

McCain is so unoriginal he had to steal Obama's campaign slogan! And you want him to run the country? Exactly which advisors do you think he'll look to? That's right, the neocons who got us in the mess that is Iraq.

vw   July 3rd, 2008 4:35 pm ET

Obama is typical flip-flipper, he just said and did what dirty politics required. He simply changed as what dirty politics required. "Change" is really his label.

JUNIOR   July 3rd, 2008 4:34 pm ET

Obama´s minor change of positions are considerable owing to the challenges he is facing,eg.the rejection of public finance which was wise because the GOP and their swift boaters are not on Americans side but will do everything just to produce presidents that keep on destroying the country.Secondly Obama gave reasons for any changed position but McCain,a man of low intergrity will as usual always deny having said or taken any position in the past.He´ll rather attack his opponent on an issue he himself is a sole designer!He would like to meet or discuss even with a terrorist group Hamas,when confronted on them he denied as usual even with tapes as evidence. Obama totally forbids such groups but would instead talk to enemy head of states with preparations(diplomacy).The fact that McCain has changed positions in percentage so far 80% compared to Obama´s 10% proves McCain is a problem!!He can remain in senate but the smartness,intergrity and judgement of a good president is lacking in him!!

loveamerica   July 3rd, 2008 4:34 pm ET

Both of them go away!

Hillary is the ONLY ONE can save our country, America needs you!!!

Mike D   July 3rd, 2008 4:34 pm ET

CNN, why do you only post pro-McCain comments?

Chris, from WI   July 3rd, 2008 4:34 pm ET

I don't know about the rest of you, but I want a leader who is willing to change his mind on important issues; willing to listen to others; willing to admit his own faults and/or mistakes. I don't want a stubborn President who thinks it's his way or the highway.

Now, when someone changes their position to score political points, then yes, that is a true definition of a "flip flopper". That term is being overused in this campaign and it's a shame because what kind of lesson is that teaching our kids? That they can never change their mind? That they always have to "stay the course" and turn a blind eye to the other side of an argument?

Peter   July 3rd, 2008 4:33 pm ET

So what? Obama flip-flopped once or twice while McCain changes his stance on every issue every day

frank   July 3rd, 2008 4:33 pm ET

some people you can fool some of the time and some people all of the time but I know they both are no good for us flip-flop obama and mccain only the fools will vote for them

William Courtland, Southern Ontario   July 3rd, 2008 4:33 pm ET

Why call it flip-floping in the first place?

This method of self-character croud jerrymandering (and happens to a great many when that individual is with groups of friends… or attachês…

Call it lieing when it is, and call it learning, growing, and listening when it isn't, and secrets cause destruction... Superman's pseudonym was a lie and just look at all that gets broken when he is in a movie.

RV - Arizona   July 3rd, 2008 4:33 pm ET

You are all a bunch of cry babies! Obama's decisions are all calculated moves for the better of the country.

McCain is basically debating himself on his own issues. He doesn't know where he stands or he doesn't remember half the time.

Don't forget McCain AKA "Songbird" collaborated with the enemy and taped 35 propaganda radio shows against the United States. He's a traitor to our country and I can't believe you numbskulls are going to vote for him!

AZ for Obama!

DAN   July 3rd, 2008 4:33 pm ET

Obama has to be the bigest flip flopper ever. The guy is a total oportunist and will say anything to get elected. He wants to be president at any cost and he's lying thru his teeth and will lie as much as he can and should never be trusted.

country_voter   July 3rd, 2008 4:32 pm ET

To change with change is a changeless state.

- Bruce Lee, 1971, describing his art of fighting, can also be used to describe a politician like Obama

John McCain-McFlip-Flop-McBush is no "maverick"   July 3rd, 2008 4:31 pm ET

Obama's few recent nuances pale in comparison to McCain's innumerable and literal position changes. Big difference.

Mike D   July 3rd, 2008 4:30 pm ET

CNN, proud supporters of John McCain '08.

Rey   July 3rd, 2008 4:30 pm ET

Obama and Hillary as VP to beat McCain!!!!!

Jeff from AL   July 3rd, 2008 4:29 pm ET

Remember that Obama's entire platform is about change and being different from all the other candidates. To see him flip flopping his ideas is very discouraging to me. I expect flip flopping from McCain. He never claimed to be different than all the other politicians. But Obama presented himself as such. This voter is watching Obama very closely before I make my final vote decision.

Will, NJ   July 3rd, 2008 4:29 pm ET

This is the kind of partisan bickering that George Washington warned against in his fair well speech, instead of selecting what's best for our country we divide Americans among red, blue, and all the colors in between. Out with partisan politics all together.

Jason   July 3rd, 2008 4:29 pm ET

people make no sense... Your right! You don't!

gary   July 3rd, 2008 4:28 pm ET

AMERICA GETS WHAT THEY DESERVE. THE KICKED THE BEST CANIDATE HRC TO THE CURB,NOW THEY CAN SUFFER THE CONSIQUENCES. OBAMA IS SUCH A CONTRADICTOR ,HYPOCRITE, ARROGANT CON MAN.

mag64   July 3rd, 2008 4:28 pm ET

looks like mccain's flip flopper meme will only stick to him. good news for Obama.

the charge that he is just a regular politician, makes him 'JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE' which takes away the elitist and unknown quantity charge.

ber6964   July 3rd, 2008 4:27 pm ET

Sen. Obama has more intelligence in his big toe than McInsane has in his entire body. Thats why he will be a Excellent President.

Terry   July 3rd, 2008 4:27 pm ET

And here we go with all the naysaer Puma morons coming out of the wood work.

Go away and take your hate with you.

BelovedMother   July 3rd, 2008 4:27 pm ET

IS THIS THE WORSE PICTURE YOU COULD FIND OF SENATOR OBAMA! TRY HARDER WILL YOU!

Splurge   July 3rd, 2008 4:25 pm ET

"times change, responses change due to current changes."

Sounds like an obama apologist making excuses for obama's doing anything he can to get elected.

He changed. He has become what he railed against. He lost his integrity right after he won the nomination and started changing in order to get elected. That's not what we were told we were voting for. The only real question was whether or not he intended to change all along. Given how tightly run his campaign was, I'd say he knew all along he would change once he won the nomination which means he was lying. Like he lied when he said the reason he flip-flopped on public financing was due to the fact that it was a 'broken system'. Even his supporters knew that was a lie.

Now you know what his face looks like when he's lying. That's one thing that doesn't change.

Obama 2008   July 3rd, 2008 4:24 pm ET

This race is too close to call. Any misspeaking from either candidate, display or person traits – like temper, lies, senility, loss of memory etc could make a huge difference in who gets the prize.

We the Americans will either be McBushed or Changed for the next 4 years. In either case, we will pay higher prices for GAS, FOOD, HEALTH CARE and RETIREMENT.

Neither candidate can solve these problems in the next 4 to 8 years. Oil is going to be priced higher because of higher demand from Asia. More mouths to feed accompanied by affordability will keep food prices higher. Add higher transportation cost to that too. Health care system will never be fixed in our lifetime because the entire system is corrupt – doctors are greedy, lawyers are hungry, patients are impatient and want to get rich quick, mal-practice insurance premiums are sky rocketing, insurance companies administering health care plans have to show profit to investors.

In order to fix health care, the next leader will have to fight the entire broken/corrupt system. Will McCain have the inclination and/or energy to do so? Will my candidate, Obama, hire someone like Hillary as Healthcare Czar with administrative power to fight the corrupt constituents?

I hope the next President has the motivation, courage and energy to do the right thing. I have been a supporter of Obama, because I am hoping he has the qualities that are needed to fix a broken system. I hope he will, if he wins.

William Courtland, Southern Ontario   July 3rd, 2008 4:24 pm ET

Why call it flip-floping in the first place?

The method of self-character croud jerrymandering (and happens to a great many when the individual is with groups of friends... or attachês...)

call it lieing when it is, and call it learning, growing, and listening when it isn't.

Marilyn   July 3rd, 2008 4:24 pm ET

Could you possibly have found two worse photos? I wouldn't want either of these guys anywhere near me.

M Lynn ND   July 3rd, 2008 4:23 pm ET

I would love to comment on this but I obviously am banned because my comments never get on the board. I'll be moving to MSNBC for my news coverage!!!!!!!!

Brian G, Sugar Land, TX   July 3rd, 2008 4:22 pm ET

Of course they flip-flop. They are politicians for Pete's sake!
How can the American public be so naive?

Where the heck have y'all been for the last 100 years of presidential. elections? Jeez, America, grow up!

richard   July 3rd, 2008 4:21 pm ET

We need a president with a cool temper, willingness to talk to our enemies and most importantly a firm grasp of ECONOMICS!

Mccain fails.
I vote Obama.

Cathy in MD   July 3rd, 2008 4:21 pm ET

Are these the best pictures you could find? Like two deer in the headlights. Obama '08, despite your picture selection.

Rob   July 3rd, 2008 4:20 pm ET

I'm getting so sick of the term "Flip Flopper"...if you can't change your mind in politics then whats the point. Obama said he'd take public financing but had ZERO clue that he'd be breaking records in fund raising. He's done what anybody in his position would have done. So all this "He flip flopped is lame. McCain has went back on policy issues HUGE difference. I will Never support McCain. He will doom this country.

Jos/TN   July 3rd, 2008 4:20 pm ET

If not flip-floppers, most policticans are BSers, the nature of the beast.

Jay in Denver   July 3rd, 2008 4:20 pm ET

McCain doesn't flip flop; he's just too old to remember what he said 10 minutes ago.

Val   July 3rd, 2008 4:20 pm ET

Obama said, "so I'd be happy to have a debate about consistency with John McCain.” Then why don't you? Why did you refuse to do townhall debates with McCain if you are "so happy to have a debate?" Please give me a brake, you full of yourself Obama.

Obama will never ever get my and my entire's family vote.

tr   July 3rd, 2008 4:19 pm ET

McSame's lsit of FLIP FLOPS is 3 pages long now....there are websites keeping track of it...Problem is, he is flipping to be closer to BUSH....he will continue the failed policies of Bush....ottom line is he is BUSH 3 but OLDER

rachel   July 3rd, 2008 4:19 pm ET

Hmm I just read that Obama is softening his timeline to witdraw from Iraq I think he is about to flip on that.

David in KC   July 3rd, 2008 4:18 pm ET

Isn't it a strength to change positions on an issue after more information is brought to the table, such as the Iraq War, health care and the economy? Is "Staying the Course" a sign of strength or simple minded stubborness?
A leader that doesn't have any flexibility is a poor and weak leader. I'll take an educated flip flopper over a simpleton that fears stepping out of line anyday.

Mike D   July 3rd, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Hillary/Mccain supporters, your days are numbered. Be prepared to eat crow in november

Leon   July 3rd, 2008 4:16 pm ET

It will be refreshing when we get a change in office. 8 years of BUSH and we do not want another 4 more years. McCain is playing the middle ground. He is going to flip-flop back to the Bush policies when he gets. PLEASE LET'S GIVE SOMEONE ELSE A CHANCE PEOPLE. Together we can make it happen..

Matt   July 3rd, 2008 4:14 pm ET

When has Obama not 'Flip-Flopped'?

This guy makes Bill Clinton looks like a staunch, stubborn man with convictions.

What really is sad is how the media, like Obama tool, Bill Schneider are welcoming 'Flip Flopping' as "Change".

Paul C. Palmetto Bay, FL   July 3rd, 2008 4:14 pm ET

I don't understand the problem American voters have with politicians who change their minds.
I change my mind often based on new and changing information.
Only the dumbest moron refuses to change no matter the new information and changing environment.
Can you say Bush?

Jozee   July 3rd, 2008 4:13 pm ET

Likability is fine, but the question is who is a better leader? Too many voters said they would rather have a beer with Prez Bush; now look at the nice mess we are in now.

Sen. McCain has demonstrated few leadership qualities while he has had three months to define himself to the American people. Sen. Obama, on the other hand, has done quite a lot to show the American people that he is a mover and a shaker. No more PAC money for the DNC and his campaign, centralization of his headquarters to Chicago and other positive moves.

I like Sen. McCain, but feel that he cannot be an effective leader without Joe Lieberman or his handlers whispering in his ear on what to do next. His brain cells seem to be evaporating by the minute.

John McCain is just too risky for the challenges we have to face as a nation.

GO OBAMA/BIDEN OR RICHARDSON

Ian   July 3rd, 2008 4:13 pm ET

At least everyone can admit that they truly don't care for an honest politician.

dan   July 3rd, 2008 4:13 pm ET

favorabel as in there loan deals?

what is worse one so rich he has no mortgages on property or one so rich he gets special deals on his mortgage?

Jim   July 3rd, 2008 4:12 pm ET

Obama is by far the bigger flip-flopper.

A recovering Republican   July 3rd, 2008 4:11 pm ET

So let me see if I understand this. If candidates or elected officials change their position, they are flip-flopers? So that means we want leaders who make up their mind and stick with it no matter what? Unyielding to public opinon? Won't ever admit a mistake? Won't pay attention to new infomraton or changing conditions? Sound like Bushy - wonder why his ratings are so low then.

10 Years Sober.

eric   July 3rd, 2008 4:11 pm ET

Obama's switch on taking public campaign financing, which still technically wasn't even a flip-flop since he never said anything about taking public money in the general election, was born out of simple math and reason. Why would he, or anyone in his position, limit himself in the face of such an obivous advantage? McCain's flip-flops are obvious, very substantive and without a shred of excuse except to appease a group of the electorate that has damaged the country immeasurably over the last 8 years.

F. Taylor   July 3rd, 2008 4:11 pm ET

McCain has a lot of nerve trying to paint Obama as a flip flopper and will be made a fool of over this issue if they ever come head to head in a debate. Perhaps McCain can't remember all the times he has taken opposite positions on votes and issues depending on his audience but if brought out in the open it isn't very likely Obama declining public funding will resonate as much as McCain's numerous flip flops.

Terry   July 3rd, 2008 4:10 pm ET

Enough with the polls already

Noah   July 3rd, 2008 4:09 pm ET

Compared to George W. Bush these guys look like Lincoln and FDR, but which one looks like whom?

Dan   July 3rd, 2008 4:09 pm ET

How is Obama a flip-flopper? That's not fair! Just because he is unable to make any decision does not make him a flip-flopper. And just because the few decisions he does actually make are based on what polls well, that doesn't make him a flip-flopper. He's actually pretty consistent in those regards.

Val   July 3rd, 2008 4:09 pm ET

Maybe not on the subject, but I wanted to comment on the previous ticker "McCain denies grabbing foreign official" since it's closed now. So here we go: Brian, you got a good point there – your reasoning makes sense and this article is actually funny.

And YES I would vote for McCain over Obama in the heartbeat. Better have a president with a temper who can stand up and protect us and our country when necessary (that's McCain), than a spineless empty suit who, without preconditions, will negotiate the fate of our country with the tyrants such as Ahmadinejad and Chavez (that's Obama).

Together We Can! United We Will!

McCain 08! McCain All The Way!

Timber   July 3rd, 2008 4:09 pm ET

Can you believe what a SNAKE Obama is!! Doring the primary, he promised he would bring back the troops from Iraq in over 16 months PERIOD. Now, he is saying that he might change his mind about that!! He used the "16 month" argument against Hillary and tried to corner her into saying the same thing but she rightfully said she would bring them home as soon as possible but she would have to of course moniter the situation before making any brash moves. His people denounced her for that and tried to make her look like she was all wrong on Iraq policy. Now, they are saying the same thing she said!!
What a slimy snake!

Brad from SC   July 3rd, 2008 4:08 pm ET

times change, responses change due to current changes.

I would hope that our politicians change their minds, due to current circumstances and don't just "stay the course."

Flip-flopping was a tool used by the Republicans to make Kerry look weak, but now the truth is known.

Obama '08

Jeff Spangler, Arlington, VA   July 3rd, 2008 4:06 pm ET

When faced with two undesirable choices like this election, I prefer to go with the better known quantity, and trust that Congress will provide a lethargic counterbalance to anything imprudent he might have in mind.

Willy   July 3rd, 2008 4:06 pm ET

POTUS is not an Affirmative Action position.

Puffin   July 3rd, 2008 4:06 pm ET

The ‘flip-flop’ cliché is getting just too overused. Everything has become a flip-flop. It is one of the cheap political attacks which do not even have any humor in it.

Obama Supporter from FL   July 3rd, 2008 4:06 pm ET

WHY, CNN, why? Why do you keep using that particular shot of Barack Obama? The man is actually photogenic, yet you manage to capture him in one horrible pose and eveidently have to use that picture every day.

Pat in Cali   July 3rd, 2008 4:06 pm ET

The big fear is that we get a president who does not listen, who is too stubborn to change his mind. Neither one of these guys has ever been president before, so it is going to be a learning experience for both.

YoungGrad   July 3rd, 2008 4:05 pm ET

Can we stop using these pictures of the candidates. They look so dumb.

people make no sense   July 3rd, 2008 4:05 pm ET

The only question that I have is, why is McCain traveling to other countries? Didn't he say that we need to put our country first because that is patriotism? We need to sure up American needs first. We Americans are suffering and he is worried about traveling abroad. A man's actions will show his true desires. He cares nothing about America. Americans were being flooded out of their homes and he was in Iraq or wherever. He bashed the way the government handled Katrina and he did the exact samething. Please get rid of this man America.

Willy   July 3rd, 2008 4:04 pm ET

Obama will and flop to the highest bidders, for George Soros for one.

Capt. Smash, Salt Lake City, Utah   July 3rd, 2008 4:02 pm ET

We have all been involved in presidential campaigns in the past, but this campaign is special because of the unique honor of working for a candidate like John McCain — a man who never surrenders.

Just think if McCain was the president of the confederacy during the Civil War the South would have been totally destroyed, and millions of men and women would have lost there lives. This man does not know how to cut his losses and move on.

Further, if he was president during the Vietnam conflict we would still be fighting and a million more Americans would have died.

susie   July 3rd, 2008 4:01 pm ET

Obama kept saying in his speeches he was for change. Within a month he flip-flops on issues. He is unbelievable.

Clinton/McCain   July 3rd, 2008 4:01 pm ET

Remember Obama was suppposed to be different from all the other politicians. McCain never made that promoise. Out you go Obama!

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