July 4, 2008
Posted: July 4th, 2008 04:40 PM ET

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A new poll shows many of Clinton's supporters still aren't read to back Obama.
A new poll shows many of Clinton's supporters still aren't read to back Obama.

(CNN) - One week after Hillary Clinton made a public show of unity with Barack Obama, a new survey suggests supporters of the New York senator are increasingly less likely to follow her lead.

A growing number of Clinton supporters say they may stay home in November instead of casting their ballot for Obama, a clear sign the party has yet to coalesce around the Illinois senator four weeks after the most prolonged and at times divisive primary race in modern American history came to a close.

According to a new survey from CNN and the Opinion Research Corporation, the number of Clinton supporters who plan to defect to John McCain's camp is down from one month ago, but in what could be an ominous sign for Obama as he seeks to unify the party, a growing number of them say they may not vote at all.

In a CNN/ORC survey conducted in early June, entirely before the New York senator officially ended her White House bid, 22 percent of Clinton supporters said they would not vote at all if Obama was the party's nominee. Now close to a third say they will stay home. In all, only 54 percent of Clinton backers say they plan on voting for Obama.

View full poll results [PDF]

In another sign the wounds of the heated primary race have yet to heal, more than 4 in 10 registered Democrats - 43 percent - still say they would prefer Clinton to be the party's presidential nominee. That number is significantly higher than it was in early June, when only 35 percent of Democrats said they preferred the New York senator to lead the party's presidential ticket Then, Obama won 59 percent of support from registered Democrats, now he garners 5 points less.

By nearly any measure then, it's clear Clinton supporters remain wary of supporting the man who beat her.

"These things always take time to heal," CNN Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider said. "I think Clinton's supporters are waiting to see if Sen. Obama will pick her as vice president. That would certainly be very healing to them."

But most political observers agree the prospects of an Obama-Clinton ticket remain dim, most notably because the New York senator remains a divisive figure in American politics and Obama's message of change threatens to be muddled by the 16 years Clinton has spent in Washington

But the question remains whether Obama can win enough Democrats without Clinton as his No. 2.

"If he doesn't pick her, a later stage of grief is depression and then acceptance," Schneider said. "In the end I expect Clinton supporters will accept Obama, because they will listen to Sen. Clinton who has said the stakes are too high for Democrats to sulk."

In the end, maybe more than four weeks is needed for many of Clinton's most devoted supporters to move past her loss, especially considering the primary campaign stretched more than 17 months.

"Many voters find it tough to immediately switch allegiances to a candidate that they once opposed, so they find a 'neutral' setting more comfortable for awhile," CNN Polling Director Keating Holland said. "If that's what is happening to the Clinton supporters who now say they plan to stay at home, Obama may have nothing to worry about. If not, there's a big chunk of the party base that Obama won't be able to count on in November."

While Clinton's stock among many Democrats remains high in the latest CNN/ORC poll, her husband's is decidedly lower since a year ago at this time.

Much has been made of Bill Clinton's role over the course of his wife's White House bid - the increasingly aggressive campaign style, the sharpened attacks leveled at Obama that some viewed as carrying racial overtones, and the outbursts at some reporters over what he viewed as unfair media coverage - and the former president increasingly came under fire from neutral Democrats and party elders concerned he was fracturing the party in an election cycle during which Democrats appear to hold the advantage in nearly every way.

And the former president clearly left a sour taste in the minds of some Americans - among all registered voters his approval rating is down 9 points in just over a year (60 percent to 51 percent.)

"Former presidents are supposed to be above politics, but Bill Clinton couldn't be above it in this campaign since his wife was a candidate for president," Schneider said. "But he was seen as too political. Democrats thought it was appropriate for him to support his wife but not appropriate to get overly critical of Obama."

So can Clinton, who left office eight years ago with approval ratings well over 60 percent, repair his image with most Americans?

"He needs to show he's gotten over it," Schneider said.

Filed under: Barack Obama • Hillary Clinton


Independent Voter   July 5th, 2008 3:05 am ET

There is absolutely no way I will vote for BHO! His supporters can try to paint all of us as racists(because, really that's all you simple minded people can come up with) and unfortunately for a small group that may be true but for the majority and for me especially, there are too many things about this man that makes me question his loyalty to this country, his judgment, and his experience. I was never a Democrat..I was Republican until the Clinton era. President Clinton brought wealth and prosperity and peace to our country. Something Obama wont be able to do. I for one, cannot bring myself to vote for someone who voted against a bill for aborted babies (that survive an abortion) to have rights. To him, it must be OK to leave a innocent baby to die in a trash can or on the table. Makes me sick. So, I'll be voting for John McCain a man who will protect our country and not go and have tea and cookies with the terrorists and hopefully, Roe V Wade will soon disappear!
McCain 08
Clinton 12

PUMA gal   July 4th, 2008 9:59 pm ET

We will not 'get over it'
and we do not reward the Democratic party or the DNC by voting for a Democrat who has supporters who continuously demean and name-call other voters.

Peter E   July 4th, 2008 9:43 pm ET

Hillary is the 'divisive figure?' Then what would you call Obama and his campaign? He told half of his own party to shut up in the primaries, he doesn't need them. Now he flip-flops and cuddles up to them. He is bullying everyone around the country saying that if we're not with him then we're against him. He called all of us racist, never listening to the actual reasons why we'd vote for somebody else. He surrounded himself with attack dogs he releases upon his opponents and anyone who dares disagree with him. Right now his supporters even threaten to unseat fellow democratic congressmen who supported Hillary in the primaries.
Sure... it's Hillary who's being divisive... right...

GM   July 4th, 2008 9:42 pm ET

Obama-Clinton '08. Dems UNITE.
The Clintonites and Obamiacs ALL need to GROW UP or STAY HOME in November. Vote for the half you like, and disreguard the other half. Otherwise, vote for McSame !!!

Lisa   July 4th, 2008 9:36 pm ET

Avembe The Sun

First of all it sounds like you're from another country because if you knew anything politics you would know that Obama and Clinton does not have 99% of the same policies.

Second As an African American women I don't like Obama because of his policies not his race. Just because the media has lead some to believe that only Whites are voting for Hillary, which is completely false. I'm still confused on what Bill said to make him a racist. How is it possible that just because he said Jesse Jackson campaigned in South Carolina that makes him a racist. Sorry Bill some people are just uneducated and try to use race as in issue. I still believe in you and what you said in South Carolina was not a racial comment.

As an African American women people try to tease me or call me uncle tom or whatever just because I voted for the best qualified person to run this nation. As a Black women I have seen a lot of smooth talking black men talk their way through a lot of things and Obama is one of them.

Don't you think it's strange that Obama never wants to debate or answer questions from the media? It's because he wants to slide his way through the nomination so no one can find out who he really is. That's why they call him a smooth talking inexperience used car saleman. They get you to buy a car you don't want and when you try to take it back it's too late.

Most of Barack supporters belong to a cult anyway . So you can call me an Uncle Tom, a racist do what you have to do, but unforuntely Hillary was a better candidate and I still hopes she win the Nomination.

Thanks

Terry   July 4th, 2008 9:33 pm ET

If Obama does not pick Hillary as his running mate, this Democrat, his wife, his father, his mother, his siblings, his in-laws, etc. are STAYING HOME on election day. NO VOTES for Obama unless Hillary's on the ticket!

Dave in Florida   July 4th, 2008 9:28 pm ET

I would have voted for Clinton (just as I have voted democrat in every election before this one), but now will cast my vote for McCain. I will also support Nader financially so he will take votes from Obama.

Manolete   July 4th, 2008 9:26 pm ET

Many of us, hispanic men that supported Hillary Clinton, can not support Barack because we're too smart to vote for an inexperienced young and naive individual who has no clear ideas how to solve the problems our country is facing.

We've had 8 years of George Bush and we don't need an affirmative action president who also has strong black supremacists and radical extremist leanings.

We love our country too much to vote democratic when we know the democratic nominee does not have the best interest for the country we love and we will rather vote for a patriot with experience like John McCain; and that is what we'll do in November.

Hillary Clinton, or else…John McCain!

Manolete   July 4th, 2008 9:24 pm ET

Many of us, hispanic men that supported Hillary Clinton, can not support Barack because we're too smart to vote for an inexperienced young and naive individual who has no clear ideas how to solve the problems our country is facing.

We've had 8 years of George Bush and we don't need an affirmative action president who also has strong black supremacists and radical extremist leanings.

We love our country too much to vote democratic when we know the democratic nominee does not the best interest for the country we love and we will rather vote for a patriot with experience like John McCain; and that is what we'll do in November.

Hillary Clinton, or else...John McCain!

Patrick   July 4th, 2008 9:23 pm ET

No Clinton VP = McCain 08!

Don't kid yourself the people chose Hillary and the DNC and the media chose Obama!

Typical White Person   July 4th, 2008 9:23 pm ET

I read these posts and the ones making racists remarks are all Obama supporters accusing anyone who doesn't want to vote for a man with no track record as a racist...

Who's playing the race card?

Christina   July 4th, 2008 9:22 pm ET

Because they're racist, sexist, blithering IDIOTS!!!

OBAMA '08!!!

Rob in Texas   July 4th, 2008 9:21 pm ET

A friendly reminder to all Democrats out …

It is estimated that as many as 2 to 4 seats on the Supreme Court could become vacant during the next Presidential term. Justice Ginsburg is 75 year old and Justice Stevens is 88 and they will both likely retire within the next 4 years. This means it is likely that whoever is President will make appointments that will shape our entire society for decades to come.

John McCain has said that he would appoint conservative judges if elected President. McCain sited Justices Roberts, Alito and Renquest as his models for the type of judge he would appoint to the court if given an opportunity. McCain voted for all of Bushes appointees to the Supreme Court. If we take McCain at his word, and in this case I do, he would have and will act exactly as Bush has in regards to Supreme Court appointments.

Both Obama and Clinton voted against Roberts and voted to filibuster Alito.

Before you decide that you will vote McSame or not vote at all if your candidate does not become the nominee, I urge you to think about a few things...

Roe vs. Wade
Environmental Protection
Personal Privacy in America
Equal Rights
Consumer Protection

I could go on...

Now imagine all those things going away, because that is what will happen if McCain is the one doing the nominating.

McCain's voting record in the 109th Congress was the second most conservative in the Senate. He has also promised to greatly increase the size of the US military, and increase the use of nuclear power in the US.

I made a mistake in 2000 and voted for Nader. Yes I proclaimed it as a message to the DNC and guess what it got me...

George W. Bush

Don't make the same mistake I made in 2000. Think people. I bet Carl Rove can't stop laughing.

LisafromVa   July 4th, 2008 9:18 pm ET

Nobody asked me. I am now supporting Obama as are most of my friends who supported Hillary. We realize that they are almost identical on the issues we feel stongly about. We cannot fathom 4 more years of what we have now. I think these polls are incorrect. A true democrat who cares about this country is not going to be that petty as to vote for McSame. These people who say that are Hillary supporters who are now supporting McSame are Republicans trying to mess with the poll numbers. Successfully apparently....

Typical White Person   July 4th, 2008 9:14 pm ET

Paula Hussein MacK July 4th, 2008 4:18 pm ET wrote:

"Hillary supporters now voting for McCain.. every soldier that dies after November 4th is on your head."

Now that Obama has switched his position on getting the troops out of Iraq, it won't matter who wins on November 4th...they will still be in Iraq. The question is, when they finally do leave, will they leave with pride for having finished the job or will they leave with terrorists stepping into the vacuum?

Brian from Iowa   July 4th, 2008 9:14 pm ET

Vote Nader, Barr, or any of the OTHER third party candidates. Give actual power back to the people and break the stranglehold that two party politics have on our system!

Power to PUMA PAC for standing up for the candidate they believe in! No one should ever, EVER be told "who to vote for".

Irrelevant   July 4th, 2008 9:13 pm ET

The more and more people try and pursuade people by their own views the more people will try and defend the rights to how they feel.

This is not about a woman, black man, or a former military man running in a presidential election, it is so much more.

Taking the time to sit with your eyes wide open and mind clear and seeing what is in front of you regardless of who represents what political party, what gender they are, what race they are and if they served in the military and see WHO they are as a person.
What have their personal lifes aspirations been? What do they truly value? Are they of great strength? What is it about them?
Who are the less evils, because truly it is politics and noone is ever 100 percent right or wrong it is just where you stand.

We all are trying to make a difference I would hope. Knowing about the candidates and how what they stand for, and not just what you see on the little "sound bites," but from research.
Not from what you hear from 2nd and 3rd hand information, but credible sources.
Not voting is counter productive- remember in history when people banned together that is when things have always changed.

Gayle   July 4th, 2008 9:10 pm ET

Clinton supporters are not the fools CNN and Obama would like us to be. We watched the vicious campaign led by Obama and the game-playing of CNN. I wonder how many times the word "despise" was used by CNN to describe (falsely) people's feelings about Hillary Clinton. And then CNN and others tried to cast Bill Clinton in the worst possible light.

Stages of grief-baloney! We disliked Obama and saw through the media games before. Hilary Clinton should be president. If not, McCain will have to do.

SusiePuma   July 4th, 2008 9:05 pm ET

CNN – you guys just don't get it – we PUMAs will not fall in line – we will still remember in November and OBAMA will not be getting our votes – this is more than just anger at the way Hillary was treated – this is about protesting the whole DNC/Democratic Party 2008 selection of a nominee rather than an election...................some PUMAs will vote for McCain, others for 3rd party candidate, others will write in Hillary (if allowed), others will not vote (hoping they will change their minds – right to vote is too important to waste by not voting) but none of us will vote for Obama............................

Ron- democrat turned independent via HILLARY then obama   July 4th, 2008 9:03 pm ET

flip flops from 7 or 8 years ago before 9-11 and 4.00 plus a gallon for gas is understandable but obama as flip flopped on almost every issue in just on year mostly because he doesn't grasp the issues he promotes, like him all his talk is superficial and when he is informed of the consequences of his stand on something he is forced to flip flop. but he does it the rev. wright way distort lie and justify. it's getting old

MK LA   July 4th, 2008 9:03 pm ET

racist?? so because I fundamentally believe Barrack lacks any experience to be president I'm racist? the democrats are in this mess because this party led by Dean and Pelosi openly slanted this election away from Hillary. I may or may not vote for Obama. I will definitely never give anymore money as long as party leadership remains the same.
Obama's supporters are so quick to throw out the race card. As if thats the only reason not to vote for him. well guess what your guy is an empty suit who spent most his national political career running for President in stead of doing his job. If you want to heal this party pick hillary as VP or else the wounds will run deep well through november. thats not a threat just reality.

Doris,Memphis,TN   July 4th, 2008 9:02 pm ET

They will get four more years of Bush!
Also, they want Obama to lose so that Hillary can run again in 2012.
I hope Barack can win without her fake democratic supporters.

Erika, KS   July 4th, 2008 8:58 pm ET

Hillary supporters are showing the same disgust and distain for Obama that Obama and his supporters have shown to Hillary. What goes around comes around.

DJ Los Angeles   July 4th, 2008 8:53 pm ET

This whole story and poll is bogus. It seems that the media and Republicans in disguise posing as Clinton supporters are instigating this and creating a lot of hype.

Any "legit" Clinton supporter would vote for Obama. Why? Because they have almost the exact same political policy viewpoints. If they still are angry at Obama for beating Clinton, than these people are just plain ignorant or should just go ahead and register as Republicans.

Kyle   July 4th, 2008 8:51 pm ET

Any die-hard Democrat who will not vote for Obama will make that decision because they can't vote for a black person. Yes there are some woman who wanted a female president badly, and I can understand that. Most Democrats who have voted along party lines for decades and still won't vote for Obama due so because of race. You won't hear this discussed openly very often, but it is absolutly the truth. I have seen this with my own eyes, die-hard liberals telling me they can't vote for a black man for president.

lisaque   July 4th, 2008 8:50 pm ET

YES WE CAN AND WE WILL VOTE NOBAMA

I hope the DNC is happy they divided our Party.

PUMA (PAC)

helen   July 4th, 2008 8:49 pm ET

If some of the clinton supporters want to vote for mccain, then by all means they should go ahead. but they should not, by any means, call themselves democrats.

alan j   July 4th, 2008 8:49 pm ET

I can not vote for Obama. Hillary was my girl.
sigh.

Laura   July 4th, 2008 8:48 pm ET

HILLARY LOST!

now move on and get over yourselves.

Rachel, CA   July 4th, 2008 8:48 pm ET

And to Juan from Texas:

You say you can't vote for Obama because he is a "junior senator". Wake up – your "beloved" candidate who you know so much about (Clinton) is a junior senator too. Surprise!

Rachel, CA   July 4th, 2008 8:46 pm ET

Stop with the rumors, the mis-reporting, the lies about Obama. I am tired of everyone worrying about and babying Clinton supporters. She is out of the race, and is clearly moving on – why can't they? It's July. Give them a few more months to think about the consequences of voting for McCain. If he is elected, god help this country – and the world for that matter.

jbjd   July 4th, 2008 8:45 pm ET

At first, I could not support Senator Obama for President because I did not know anything about him. Then, I would not support him, because I did. My anger derives not from the fact my candidate did not win the nomination; it rises from the fact, she did, but the DNC in concert with the MSM stole this from her.

P.U.M.A.

Rita   July 4th, 2008 8:44 pm ET

No Clinton on the ticket, no Obama. Just that simple!

Obama spins again   July 4th, 2008 8:43 pm ET

The reason for the too blind to see it Obama following:
Obama tried to totally destroy Hillary Clinton's credibilit. He ridiculed her, he misquoted her, accused both her and her husband bill of playing dirty politics, did everything he could to discredit her.

NOW that it seems he can't get elected without her support she has become WONDER GIRL and He can not say enough nice things about her

Give him credit where it's due, but tell it like it is: if you elect this guy you have to live with it and he does do a lot of flip flopping.

Michigan for Obama   July 4th, 2008 8:40 pm ET

I've got to believe that the former Clinton supporters who are stating the will never vote for Obama

1. were never Clinton supporters... just Republicans stirring things up, or
2. racist...would never vote for a black person regardless how credible the candidate...

It's also interesting how people see and hear things so differently in regards to Barack...all you need to do is read his website which clearly spells out his policy stands which are not socialist/marxist

To fella from Chicago: my opinion – we should never judge an individual by who their parents are/were...Obama's father was never in his life and was raised by his mother and grandparents...we cannot control what "kind of" family we were born into...

...to all "anti-anybody"...just because you disagree with someone's opinion, it doesn't need to turn personal...

P.S. I went to my first organization meeting which was co-chaired by a former Clinton staffer...who stated that all this talk about former Clinton people now voting for McCain is such a small minority with questionable truthfulness....

Laura   July 4th, 2008 8:40 pm ET

Any Clinton supporter who stays home this November yet still calls themself a Democrat should be tried for treason.

mobee   July 4th, 2008 8:39 pm ET

Well, the Republicans have won. If Obama doesn't win in '08 because of Hillary supporters, Hillary will NEVER win. A Republican tactic worthy of Turbblossom, too bad Dems are proving themselves to be dumb. Republicans have been manipulating the so-called soccer moms since the '80's. Just proves that they are the weak link of the country.

Lisa   July 4th, 2008 8:37 pm ET

Don't forget the people voting for Obama is under the age of 21, if you're any older than that then you're dumb.

SOS!   July 4th, 2008 8:35 pm ET

Vig .........On this Independence Day, we say, FREE HILLARY CLINTON!!!! Her nomination was hijacked by the media and Hillary is a true patriot. Obama's new found patriotism is opportunistic. BRING HILLARY BACK. HILLARY IS A POLITICAL PRISION SILENCED BY THE MEDIA...........YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!!!

Lisa   July 4th, 2008 8:33 pm ET

To George from PA

I would almost rather stay unemployed then vote for NObama!!!

Why would anyone in their right mind believe that Obama and Michelle would be a better President than Bill and Hillary?

Lisa   July 4th, 2008 8:31 pm ET

I think it's sad that people actually think Obama is some kind of superhero when he believes America has 57 states and scared to debate Hillary or Mccain. I know a fraud when I see one, I had the same feelings about President Bush and you see what happened with that.

An Independent Hillary   July 4th, 2008 8:30 pm ET

To all you Hillary bashers – SHUT UP!

You got your lame candidate Obama and I unfortunately have to vote for him because the alternative McCain is MUCH worse.

If Hillary supporters don't want to vote for Obama, then it's their right to do so. Don't worry Obamaheads, you're candidate will more than likely win – I mean look who he's up against!

Anyway, I thought we went way past all the name calling and accusations from the Obama supporters. Guess not.

In closing, I think I do like Obama over McCain, even if he is quickly becoming the "Flip-Flop Man" – it's his idiot supporters I do not like.

Pepou   July 4th, 2008 8:28 pm ET

Clinton supporters should get a life !

StarDust   July 4th, 2008 8:25 pm ET

Just because I supported Hillary certainly isn’t a good reason to blindly support Obama. Hillary was a fantastic candidate. Most people who knew Hillary loved her and loved what should stood for. I don’t know what Obama stands for. Heck I don’t even know if Obama knows what Obama stands for. Why should I support such a wishee –washee candidate? Just because the Democratic Party is forcing him down my throat. I’m beginning to think the DNC is secretly Republican or why would they be making me feel so much like voting for McCain this year.

Lisa   July 4th, 2008 8:25 pm ET

Most Clinton supporters believe that Obama is just as inexperience as George W bush and Senator Mccain.

No Bush Third Term   July 4th, 2008 8:25 pm ET

Those who say they support Clinton and her stand on the issues but who then say they'll sit it out or vote for McBush are either stupid or lying.

Stupid: voting for 4 more years of Bush... with loss of civil rights, war, tax breaks to the rich, torture, big oil and big gas prices, foreclosure (you're on your own) and more.

Lying: These are closet Republicans and they only voted for Clinton on the behalf of Limpbaugh and some silly notion of defeating Obama by winning Clinton the primary. They don't plan to vote for a Democrat anyway.

The real women supporters of Clinton will support Obama because he stands closer to her goals. Because we cannot afford 4 more years of TAX AND WAR Republicans running the country. Because we don't need a THIRD war in Iran. Because it's time to focus on AMERICA.

Those women are not stupid. They will vote for what is right for the country.

Janet WV for Obama   July 4th, 2008 8:22 pm ET

It is time for those of us who support Sen. Obama to do what we can to help his campaign and just pray for vindictive, mean-spirited people who are lost in some kind of time warp and refuse to acknowledge that Barack is our candidate. Register new voters, donate to his campaign etc. Stop begging people who don't support him. Remember , each of us has a vote. These negative people's votes don't count any more than your vote does. Forget them!

Xavier   July 4th, 2008 8:21 pm ET

All this people and organizations best remeber that what goes around comes around. What you do to saobtage Obama's run today, will come back to haunt you should he lose because of you and Hillary runs in 2012. Do we want a two terms for McCain?

Florida democrat   July 4th, 2008 8:20 pm ET

How stupid of HRC supporters. Stay at home = McCain = Bush

We are truly a stupid society.

real dem   July 4th, 2008 8:20 pm ET

First of all we all know that only two candidates ( really with chances ) are left in this race. Lets be grow ups and face that reality. I wish that we could go back 4 years or even 8 years but we can't. SO LETS GROW UP AND STOP ACTING LIKE 2 YEAR OLDS. ( I can't vote hillary so I'm voting for Mccain or not voting and what if O'bama loses because of this? I'm 100 % sure people then his people will vote against her because of this so why not stop the banter and the 8 year strain that the republicans have put on us.) Either you want a chance to change or you want the same old thing that has been here for 8 years. It's your choice....maybe if you lose your home or job or even a love one in IRAQ then you will change your mind or maybe not, maybe your like Pharaoh....coldhearted.

Diamond   July 4th, 2008 8:19 pm ET

The ones who are saying they will vote for Mccain over Obama werent true dmeocrats anyway. they are republicans (mainly female republicans) that only voted for hillary because she was a women and because the republican primaries were already over,In some states republicans were allowed to do this and they had nothing else better to do. Now theyre being polled, and messing the poll results up with their lies. You can see many of them on this blog posing as hillary democrats who will vote for mccain. I dont believe these polls, because I know for a fact that over 80% of hillary supporters will vote for obama. And he will win.

aware   July 4th, 2008 8:18 pm ET

Right!

Obama's give-a-ways will result in an American deficit of 1 Trillion dollars! They will also encourage victim/dependent thinking instead of victorious thinking! :(

America, the land of the free the founding father's built on a Judeo Christian foundation is a multiracial nation with freedom of religion and speech! :)

Never Obama! On to Denver...!

aware   July 4th, 2008 8:15 pm ET

Right!

Obama cares about changing America to fit his image of what it should be. He envisions a nation that keeps people in victim, dependent mode instead of victor mode. His give-a-ways will result in an American deficit of 1 Trillion dollars! :(

These are the tenants of Liberation Theology, hard core Liberals, Progressives and Multiculturalists! This is the ideology that will send America into a downward, backward spiral in an Obama presidency!

America, the land of the free the founding father's built on a Judeo Christian foundation is a multiracial nation with freedom of religion and speech! :)

Never Obama!

The Lady   July 4th, 2008 8:14 pm ET

Ok we knew they would not support Obama 3 months ago, can we let this go and move on. Lets talk about the Clinton supporters who are supporting Obama.

pam Eugene OR   July 4th, 2008 8:13 pm ET

To all Hillary supporters:
Don't hold your breath till 2012 because it will be too late. This country can not stand 4 more years of Republican control. We will be bankrupt and learning to speak Chinese because they will own the USA. Our reproductive rights will be gone and the supreme court will be altered for the next 20 years. We will lose more of our brave young men and women in this horrible war and the stock market will be below 10,000.
How do you like this preview???
I hope it is worth it to you Hillary supporters. It will not be "her turn" in 2012.
Please unite against the Republicans now and take back our White House. Even if you have to hold your nose to vote for the Democrat it will be far better than 4 more years of the same.

fedworker   July 4th, 2008 8:11 pm ET

I have a nice job, good health care, and my taxes are reasonable. Obama has not meaningfully addressed a single issue I think is important. Clinton did. Obama changes his mind constantly as he is given more data and information. Nothing wrong with that, except he shouldn't make promises until he knows what he is talking about. And that right there is the problem for me–I don't think he is qualified; I don't think he knows what he is talking about.

RJ Kruger   July 4th, 2008 8:11 pm ET

Juan, Juan, Juan:
Hillary '12!

As a Hillary Clinton supporter I absolutely REFUSE to vote for Barack Obama. There is no way I'm voting for someone who was a "Junior" Senator. How can you Obama "supporters" not see through this? He wants change and all that jazz. His "Change" will cost our country Billions of dollars we don't have. He is a hypocritical man, and will do whatever it takes to get where he wants. I don't want that thank you. So, If you ask me who's the best candidate? Mr. McCain. and after that Hillary Clinton in '12.

Hillary or Bust!"

This trirade only proves that you bought into sound bites and didn't do your homework. Barack Obama has many more years experience of electived political office than Hillary. Plus, he earned it and didn't ride into office on anyone's coattails or legacy. McCain suffers from some twisted fantasy that the U.S. can "win" in Iraq. Why we are continuing to offer up our soldiers and our other resources to stick our nose in some country's religious civil war is beyond me. Face it Juan, the oil just hasn't materialized yet from Iraq. And, the policy of blood for oil is one that will haunt G. W. and the rest of his Republican Administration and cronies for the remainder of U.S. history. Go ahead, Juan, and vote for McCain, after being an ardent Hillary supporter. It makes no sense. But supporting Hillary didn't make a whole lot of sense, either. When we are paying $10 or $12 for a gallon of gasoline, and when the crime rates skyrockets because of desperation, when our infrastructure really crumbles, when China and Japan cash in their treasuries, and when YOU, Juan, can't afford to retire, please remember your words and your vote.

A dyed-in-the-wool patriot,
Happy 4th of July!
Let's celebrate our Constitution!
RJ Kruger
Bakersfield, Calif.

JIM...TX   July 4th, 2008 8:11 pm ET

All these Clinton nuts whining about voting for McSame should go ahead an do it. Then they'll be like a lot of those fools who voted Bush twice should he get in wondering what the hell was I thinking! 8 years of Bush has all but ruined this Country and another 4 will certainly sink the ship. Then they'll have more to cry about.

INDEPENDENT WHITE WOMAN FOR OBAMA   July 4th, 2008 8:10 pm ET

Democratic Fundraiser ......One more comment; after reading all of the above crap, I just couldn't stay silent. I spend 8 hours a day fundraising for Democrats. I do get paid an hourly wage; doesn't change the fact that I am still proud to be on the front lines. I can raise $5 dollars or $5,000 in an hour, and, my wage does not change. For those of you that say, "write in Hillary"; I say, that's ridiculous. For those of you that say, "vote for McCain", that's worse. And lastly, for those of you that say, "the media (or some other group) is at fault for Hillary's loss", I say, get real. Hillary was the more experienced of the two, had a huge opportunity to easily win, and the team she selected blew it. She hired a team of folks that ran a subpar campaign. Barak's team, on the other hand, ran a brilliant campaign. Stop questioning the leadership of Barak; looks as though he selected his people well; better than Hillary did. No way in heck Barak shoud have won our primary, but, he did. He may be inexperienced, but in hindsight, I'd rather have him selecting a supporting cast than Hillary….we've already seen who made the best choices. No one person can run a nation alone. The supporting cast runs the government, the President has the final say. As for Hillary being selected for VP – doesn't matter to me one way or another. She'd be great, although personally, I'd put her in the cabinet instead. Sec of State would be my choice. I'm voting Barak for the US and hoping Hillary for our World Affairs. Vote with me.
DITTO!!!!

Jeanie   July 4th, 2008 8:09 pm ET

You want to know why they've all switched to undecided? It's because Obama has obviously shown he has more interest in courting the Republicans and Independents with his recent campaign "refined" ideals. He thinks he has a better chance courting them than wounded HRC supporters. I don't think it's the smartest idea, especially when you have Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton ready to do anything at your will. It's not their fault and it's not Hillary Clinton's fault. I still believe Obama is much better than McCain, but part of me wishes that Hillary Clinton was back.

Down with Obama   July 4th, 2008 8:09 pm ET

"These things always take time to heal," CNN Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider said. "I think Clinton's supporters are waiting to see if Sen. Obama will pick her as vice president. That would certainly be very healing to them."

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LMAO, Bill Schneider doesn't know his donkey from a hole in the ground. We are not waiting for Obama to pick Hillary, we don't want Obama to pick Hillary. Either way, we wlll NOT vote for Obama...don't you people get it????? We don't want Obama, no way, no how!!!

JERRAL   July 4th, 2008 8:07 pm ET

HRC
is out for herself
she has made a mess of the dem. party.
like you fools are hipnatised. see a doc. get over it or just stay the hell home and don't vote. you are republicans anyway voting for her to please russ limbaugh. which was sick a== thing to do.
ANY ONE TELL YOU RUSS IS A DEMOCRAT AND STATED HE WILL VOTE OBAMA.
AFTER HE MADE A FOOL OF YOU JERKS WHO ARE ALWAAYS BASHING THE DEMS.
GET A LIFE

CNN PL;EASE POST THIS AS YOU USUALL DON'T

maurice   July 4th, 2008 8:06 pm ET

Bumma for Obama,Vote McCain!

To all Obama haters   July 4th, 2008 8:05 pm ET

Fella from Chicago July 4th, 2008 5:33 pm ET

HRC has this country's people in her best interests and is an American who was born and raised with American values. Obama was raised by a father with no American roots and it shows in his far left Socialist/Maxist ideas.

It really shows how slow stupid you are what is american values do you have it cause if you do you will not right the things you wrote so let me ask you this is american value to be a racist if that is it then i am glad Obama does not share this so get a life and stop hating cause you will never get to were he is ever in your life and if we look at your life you are a bitter person that find excuse blaming others for the stupidity.

mitchell hussein martin   July 4th, 2008 8:05 pm ET

who needs 'em.they are uneducated idiots ,anyway.

Down with Obama   July 4th, 2008 8:04 pm ET

WE will NOT vote for Obama!!!

johnny   July 4th, 2008 8:03 pm ET

That's okay

Shame on YOU !!!!   July 4th, 2008 8:03 pm ET

Chase ........... was also one of Hilary's biggest supporters but I think its time to look at the big picture. Yes I agree that Obama tends to bounce around on certain things but reelecting the republicans back into the white house would be Economic Suicide for the US. How much longer can we allow the republicans to dump loads of money into things like war? We need to focus on economic stability and the fuel crisis. I think the key now is to support the democratic party and hope that something will change that may lead to a Obama / Clinton team. But either way don't let your party down. Vote Obama.
SOME of these IDIOTS are RUSH FOLLOWERS AND hate mongers

I

newbies don't know any better   July 4th, 2008 8:02 pm ET

We know and trust Hillary.

Does anyone doubt her commitment to affordable UNIVERSAL health care for ALL Americans?

She says what she believes and then fights for it. You can agree or disagree with her positions... but she states them and sticks with them and fights for those who she represents.

We honestly cannot believe a word Obama is saying. His Santa Claus campaign promises everything to everyone. Now he is on the side of big taxes, FISA courts, large corporations and special interests.

Barbara Morton   July 4th, 2008 8:01 pm ET

It totally amazes me that the are Democrats that would rather vote for John McCain or worse not vote at all just because their candidate did not get enough votes to take the nomination. If you ask me they are acting like little children who did not get their way and are pouting. They will tell you that Barak Obama lacksexperience well so does Hillary. She was First Lady not President. Yes she has more time in Congress but that does not mean that she is any more experienced in world affairs or domestic affairs the Obama. To think that there are those Democrats that would rather see another Republican elected then vote for Obama is crazy.

newbies don't know any better   July 4th, 2008 7:59 pm ET

There's no more unity. I am beyond disappointed now. I even moved past sad and upset. I'm just plain angry and disgusted now. I tried to give Mr. Obama the benefit of the doubt and I even kept open the possibility of voting for him. But he has show within the past month that he will do nothing but lie, lie, lie. His whole candidacy has been built on lies.

Iraq is the final flip-flopping straw. He used that issue to knock the best candidate to the ground over and over. It's a crying shame that the Democrats let this man (to use his words) Bamboozle and Hoodwink them. McCain just picked up another vote. There is no way on God's green earth I will ever pull the lever for him now. And not only that, I will do everything I can to make sure he doesn't get elected. I would vote for Satan himself before this liar.

NObama. No way. No how.

mama coo   July 4th, 2008 7:58 pm ET

Why do you Obama fans continue to drag the Clinton's into this race? Are you all having a change of heart? It seems the only ones talking about the Clinton's are Obama supporters who continue to vilify the them. Get over yourselves. If Obama is the great person you all feel he is and can do all the things you all think he can, quit talking about the Clinton's. If Obama is such a shoo in why are you all so worried? Last I knew, this was a free country and everyone has the right to vote for whom they choose to vote for. Not everyone has to vote for or like Obama. If he is as great as you Obama fans think he is then why does it matter who Clinton supporters vote for.

Nia - Phoenix, AZ   July 4th, 2008 7:58 pm ET

Who cares... Why don't they embrace her debt and help her pay it of then

Price to pay is Obama himself   July 4th, 2008 7:57 pm ET

AMERICA GETS WHAT THEY DESERVE. THE KICKED THE BEST CANIDATE HRC TO THE CURB,NOW THEY CAN SUFFER THE CONSIQUENCES. OBAMA IS SUCH A CONTRADICTOR ,HYPOCRITE, ARROGANT CON MAN.

paul oregon   July 4th, 2008 7:53 pm ET

as far as im concerned the dnc needs to tellthe clintons where the door is . they have split the dem. party with there tactics an hillary has set womens rights back atleast 30 years.

Billy Hussein Taylor   July 4th, 2008 7:48 pm ET

Obama should never choose Hillary as a VP. Here's the reason why, if he does, the Repubs will kill it dead because at that point they will reveal that Hillary is a lesbian. Thats right folks, Hillary Clinton is a lesbian. Proof is coming....

Phil   July 4th, 2008 7:48 pm ET

Dont vote for a Texas politician for President.....Lyndon B. Johnson....Vietnam
King George W. Bush Afganistan, Iraq and Iran

David   July 4th, 2008 7:48 pm ET

Clinton supporters can turn their back on Obama and cry "foul" about the sexism in the U.S., but what does that get us? Another four years with yet another white male in the Presidency, and another four years of the disastrous policies of GW Bush.

We know the old saying of cutting off one's nose to spite the face, but inviting ruin on the country to spite one's political party? That's nuts.

Obama stole the nomination   July 4th, 2008 7:47 pm ET

As if the lousy hateful debasing treatment of Hillary and her supporters by the Obama camp during the primary was not enough.

Can you believe what a SNAKE Obama is!! During the primary, he promised he would bring back the troops from Iraq in over 16 months PERIOD. Now, he is saying that he might change his mind about that.
He used the "16 month" argument against Hillary and tried to corner her into saying the same thing but she rightfully said she would bring them home as soon as possible but she would have to of course moniter the situation before making any brash moves.

His people denounced her for that and tried to make her look like she was all wrong on Iraq policy. Now, they are saying the same thing she said!

And the Obama cult is saying that shows good judgement. So the same position from Hillary was stupid and when Obama shifts to her position, that is brilliance?

THAT BLINDNESS INFUSED WITH HATE FOR THOSE WHO DISAGREE, IS WHY.
What a slimy snake!

Ambrose Smith, Borrego Springs, California   July 4th, 2008 7:46 pm ET

They weren't Hillary supporters, but Obama haters.

They voted just to keep Obama out of the White House. If they supported Clinton, they would pay her tab.

J0hn   July 4th, 2008 7:46 pm ET

Hillary's nature is to be the one calling the shots. I do not believe she is capable of being second to anone. The position of a Vice President is to be a strict follower of the President, Hillary just is not one who can be a follower.

SGK   July 4th, 2008 7:46 pm ET

I'm glad CNN's Bill Schnieder has referred to the refusal to vote for
Obama as a " sulk". That hardens those Clinton supporters' resolve..
Not to worry though, with Obama's move to the Right- it makes it that much easie to vote for McCain.

MM   July 4th, 2008 7:45 pm ET

I can't even believe that we are still discussing it. Everybody vote for the candidate they want. And then deal with the results. Obama supporters – you'll never convince the die-hard Clinton supporters so why even continue trying. Clinton supporters - she's lost. End of story. Now think about issues. All supporters of whomever - stop bashing each other, start acting like adults, and discuss issues without getting hysterical or dramatic.

true Democrat   July 4th, 2008 7:44 pm ET

How is Obama a flip-flopper? That's not fair! Just because he is unable to make any decision does not make him a flip-flopper. And just because the few decisions he does actually make are based on what polls well, that doesn't make him a flip-flopper. He's actually pretty consistent in those regards.

PUMA-SF   July 4th, 2008 7:42 pm ET

Clinton supporters have values and care about core Democratic values and Obama does not. We will never support him. We will either write in Hillary's name depending on the laws of each state, we will stay home or we will vote for McCain.

Nobama not now not ever!!

Puma Power

Loretta from California   July 4th, 2008 7:41 pm ET

I'm sorry to hear this...

DEMOCRATS UNITE!!!

true Democrat   July 4th, 2008 7:40 pm ET

When faced with two undesirable choices like this election, I prefer to go with the better known quantity, and trust that Congress will provide a lethargic counterbalance to anything imprudent he might have in mind.

Betty   July 4th, 2008 7:38 pm ET

I'm one of those Democrats who won"t be voting at all for President.

I feel like Obaama was forced down our throats by the DNC & the media. He doesn't represent me. I don't like his arrogant attitude or the way he acts like he thinks he's entitled to the Presidency just because of who he is.

Anonymous   July 4th, 2008 7:38 pm ET

I'm one of those Democrats who won"t be voting at all for President.

I feel like Obaama was forced down our throats by the DNC & the media. He doesn't represent me. I don't like his arrogant attitude or the way he acts like he thinks he's entitled to the Presidency just because of who he is.

BROOKLYN   July 4th, 2008 7:37 pm ET

Senator Obama and his "supporters" did nothing but disrespect Senator and President Clinton...

They need her (us) she does not need them...

If she does not join the ticket, he does not get the votes it is that simple...

Cricket   July 4th, 2008 7:36 pm ET

We have two choices Barack Obama or John McCain. We have been Bush-wacked for 8 years and we sure don't need or want a 3rd term of Bush. So vote... if you want for whom ever you want. Just stop your whinning because neither one is who you want. I didn't want George Bush but I got him anyway . So suck it up and help make a difference before it is to late.

Ms. Smith   July 4th, 2008 7:33 pm ET

Obama supporters, please remember this. Many supporters of Hillary Clinton are/were independents, not democrats – who have no reason to support Obama IF they do not think he is the best candidate. I do not think like minded Americans (meaning, people who agree with Obama and Clinton on important issues) will stay home. They/we will vote, and Obama will be he beneficiary of their votes. However, for voters who cast their ballot on personality, they are not likely to warm up to Senator Obama now, after all these months. No one should stay home in my view. Go, vote, write in Hillary Clinton's name (if you live in a red state, which I do). Or, go, hold your nose, and vote for Obama. Worst choice, go and vote for McCain. But, please don't stay home! tHIS IS TOO IMPORTANT AN ELECTION.

Ironbelle   July 4th, 2008 7:31 pm ET

Reading the comments of the Obama supporters on this thread makes one thing obvious. Obama is unqualified. His supporters are morons.

PUMA POWER!

Concerned Citizen of America 08   July 4th, 2008 7:31 pm ET

Obama 08

Linda K.   July 4th, 2008 7:31 pm ET

Everyone has the right to vote, or not. But I don't understand this immature attitude.

I didn't agree with everything Hillary stood for, but if she had won the nomination I would vote for her in the general election. There are larger issues here than individual ego.

Our country is becoming more immature every day.

Wake Up America!!   July 4th, 2008 7:30 pm ET

When will America ever wake up? Race relations and greed will destroy our great country. It's all about green (money) not black and white. HRC has a net worth of $34.9M and JM $40.4M. I doubt either of them know how much a gallon of milk cost or ever had to choose between paying bills or buying food. If Obama had lost, I would have strongly supported HRC to stop another Bush term. None of these politicans are perfect but I would never support McCain.

God Bless Americia,

P.S. God Bless Obama when he becomes the next
President of the United States of America.

Rick   July 4th, 2008 7:30 pm ET

Why did we vote for these Dems and Repubs, they prominse everything and never deliver. The economy is in trouble, gas prices are high and food skyrockets and our voted in officials promise to fix and then run home to celebrate the 4th and leave us hanging. Well another 8000 house went into foreclosure and gas is $4 a gallon. Looks like our elected officials are the theives which run in the night, but they steal from us in broad daylight

I say vote everyone out of office and lets put a businessman in charge instead of a political promising lieing stealing i'll give you everything politician....................

INDEPENDENT WHITE WOMAN FOR OBAMA   July 4th, 2008 7:30 pm ET

Rob........what I find odd is why a woman would vote for McBush.. Their giving up hard earned rights- – Rowe V Wade will be gone. I'm sorry , but thats just stupid. Bush Has infringed on our rights –so why would they just give over more. So when you've lost them don't cry–you won't get them back anytime soon........IT IS NOT ABOUT THE ISSUES ......
IT IS ABOUT RACE (OBAMA IS A BLACK MAN .......SOME PEOPLE CAN NOT ACCEPT THAT........THEY USE EXPERENCE FLAG PIN
HIS WIFE HIS KIDS HIS SMILE.... IF YOU HAVE NOT LIVED IT YOU WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT IT IS TO BE BLACK!!!!!! ....They are not READY but the SPRIT IS ALL UP IN THIS RACE!!!!!

CNN PLZ POST 4TH TRY

Monica for Obama in Indiana   July 4th, 2008 7:28 pm ET

Who cares whether hillary supporters stay at home or vote for mccain. In the long run, they will end up hurting themselves and pray tell if they have husbands, son, daughters or grandchildren war age.

Hillary and bill showed her supporters how much she thought of them, when she got herself into debt, did her supporters bail her out? No, Obama had to ask his supporters to help retire her debt.

Hillary supporters all of you should just put your money where your mouth is.

deb   July 4th, 2008 7:27 pm ET

why are so many people stupid enough to fall for all this crap the media is trying to lay out. it is in the best interest of corporate media if their buddy john mccain wins. and he's not going to, although they'll spin it like it's close, it helps their ratings. this poll is just more of that crap. if some clinton supporters don't want to vote, fine. i have total faith that barack's organization will just go out and get more new voters registered to replace them.

Rob   July 4th, 2008 7:25 pm ET

Enough!!!

I'm sick of these "low information" voters talking about how cruel Obama and his campaign were to HRC. That's BS and you know it. Obama ran as civil of a campaign as he possibly could considering that HRC's people were using Rovian tactics against him. He finally realized that he had to respond, and he did. But for you folks to try and make him the bad guy is just dishonest and incorrect.

Think about this:
If you vote for John McCain (or do not vote at all) this is what this country can expect:
An economy in downward spiral.
An endless occupation of Iraq.
Health insurance costs rising.
More warrantless spying on Americans.
War with Iran.
Outsourcing of more jobs.
Breakdown of our insfrastructure.
etc, etc, etc..

Now, is this really what you want?

I have a tremendous amount of respect for Senator Clinton and think that she would have made a great candidate. I think she'll play an important role in Obama's campaign and he'll be all the better for it. But, this was just not her time. Obama is far from perfect, as are all politicians, but he is the most likely to put our country on a better course. And we'll be better for that...

Ben   July 4th, 2008 7:25 pm ET

I'm starting to sound like a broken record here, but MOST OF THESE "CLINTON SUPPORTERS" ARE REPUBLICANS TRYING TO STIR UP TROUBLE. In a survey, just like when commenting on the internet, people can lie about who they are. I know several people who were strong Clinton supporters and EVERY SINGLE ONE of them plans on voting for Obama. Sure, some of them aren't happy with the way the primary turned out, but they all say it would be stupid and self destructive to vote republican or stay home just because their candidate didn't win the primary.

Texans for Obama   July 4th, 2008 7:24 pm ET

Well these people need to give it up and get over the anger. Hillary lost fair and square, and no one stole the nomination. I have been watching each day since day one and Barack won. He ran a better campaign. Yes, she has more experience but what this country needs is change . Look at the economy all of the old school Washington players like her and McCain have been in politics for years but look at the result of their experience. I am all for change. We need younger people with fresh ideas and a big change in government. This is for the future generation. I don't want 100 more years of war.

People need to stop crying about Hillary and move on with their lives. Let them vote for McCain but I hope they realize the consequences o when they do. The ones that vote for McCain better be rich. Most of them will be in for a rude awakening. I say, Vote Obama, America needs a big time change.

Blueray98   July 4th, 2008 7:20 pm ET

Considering how Senator Clinton and all of her supporters were treated during the primary season, why should any of us consider unifying with the democratic party?

The coordination of the Obama campaign, the mainstream media, and even the DNC clearly did not want to promote or consider Hillary as the nominee from the very start of the campaign season.

Imagine – just for a moment – if Hillary had the amount of positive coverage that Barack was fortunate enough to have. But instead, every single day there were negative, sexist, and sarcastic comments about Hillary, Bill, and even Chelsea!

Voting for Barack Obama is out of the question. My vote will be going to John McCain.

Zoe   July 4th, 2008 7:19 pm ET

Any woman who thinks she is doing her gender or the world a favor by not bringing through a democratic success with or without Hillary,
is misguided
Why not turn your attention to the women in the world of women
without a voice, without millions, without a senatorial seat and ex-president husband making millions.... try Africa, try China – lots of women there that could use this steam in a much more productive way. Obama has it give up that poor me act, ....I resent the idea Hilliary lost because of sexism- nonsense!

tom, boston   July 4th, 2008 7:17 pm ET

Racism stems from intellectual deficiency, which is a life-time infliction.

there ain't no cure for stupidity.

JB   July 4th, 2008 7:17 pm ET

How quickly you all forget Hillary's many lies, flip-flops and dirty tricks aimed at Obama. Your should also get your facts straight about the popular vote & clarify how Obama stole the election. Also, to Juan in Texas - did you not realize that Hillary is the Junior Senator from New York?? So much for not voting for Obama because he is a Junior Senator really doesn't cut it. The 'vote for McCain or write-in Hillary' faction really need to check out the facts before making their threats!

Post his Book Rants   July 4th, 2008 7:15 pm ET

Avembe the Sun.........Are we Hillary voters racists.........or are the Obama's and most of their loyal backers the true racists?

Hillary-zilla   July 4th, 2008 7:13 pm ET

Obama and the DNC is corrupt to the core. This primary was fixed from the beginning. Obama is not the nomonee yet, and the DNC has moved to Chicago ????

IT's TOUGH BB IN A !   July 4th, 2008 7:13 pm ET

Rob........what I find odd is why a woman would vote for McBush.. Their giving up hard earned rights- – Rowe V Wade will be gone. I'm sorry , but thats just stupid. Bush Has infringed on our rights –so why would they just give over more. So when you've lost them don't cry–you won't get them back anytime soon........IT IS NOT ABOUT THE ISSUES ......
IT IS ABOUT RACE (OBAMA IS A BLACK MAN .......SOME PEOPLE CAN NOT ACCEPT THAT........THEY USE EXPERENCE FLAG PIN
HIS WIFE HIS KIDS HIS SMILE.... IF YOU HAVE NOT LIVED IT YOU WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT IT IS TO BE BLACK!!!!!! ....They are not READY but the SPRIT IS ALL UP IN THIS RACE!!!!!

CNN PLZ POST 2ND TRY

Post his Book Rants   July 4th, 2008 7:13 pm ET

Michelle Obama's thesis … is unavailable until Nov. 5, 2008, at the Princeton library.
(not until after nomination, wonder why?)

"Blacks must join in solidarity to combat a White opressor."

Bobby tray   July 4th, 2008 7:12 pm ET

If HRC supporters are not for Obama. It's a free country. They have that right. I just think that many need to look into HRC background. She was never for the people but a selfish need to be important. This is why she stayed with a philandering husband and said the things she said during the campaign.

TESAP   July 4th, 2008 7:10 pm ET

They probably won't. You can't change them I doubt if they aren't voting for him because of his views but probably more because of his race............

Rob indetroit   July 4th, 2008 7:10 pm ET

they will come around

Post his Book Rants   July 4th, 2008 7:10 pm ET

Michelle Obama's thesis ... is unavailable until Nov. 5, 2008, at the Princeton library.
(not until after nomination, wonder why?)

"There was no doubt in my mind that as a member of the black community, I am obligated to this community
and will utilize all of my present and future resources to benefit the black community first and foremost."

Post his Book Rants   July 4th, 2008 7:09 pm ET

Chicago is being run so well as a city right now!

Mark   July 4th, 2008 7:09 pm ET

There's too much hatred here but I suspect a good portion of it is from Republicans pretending to be Democrats to continue the chaos. I think most Hillary supporters are smarter than that and will vote for Obama. Hillary will certainly have a prominent role in an Obama adminstration, hard to imagine she's be of any use to Mccain. People should vote with their values and not out of madness and spite and hatred, etc. What is wrong with taking a pragmatic approach, anyway? Republicans in the past 8 years have been stubborn and we've seen how that works. Bill Clinton was a pragmatic president. Not gung-ho and I AM RIGHT AND EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG type of person and Obama is clearly similar to President Clinton. The people who claim to be democrats and have the intense hatred for Obama use Republican talking points as such as; he flip flops (the talking point used to destroy Kerry's bid and gave us Bush) they say he is too liberal, imagine a Democrat voting for Bush III because of that talking point? Only the Democract party would have a female and a black man as lead candidates. How dare they (Republicans) tell us how to think and vote when they are the party of disaster? Thanks to all.

Post his Book Rants   July 4th, 2008 7:08 pm ET

Barak Obama -southside Chicago
Michelle Obama -southside Chicago
Bill Ayers =(Weathermen) -southside Chicago
Bernadine Dohrn =(Weathermen) -southside Chicago
Rev. Wright -southside Chicago
Rev. James Meeks -southside Chicago
Rev. Moss -southside Chicago
Farrakahn -southside Chicago
Quannel X -southside Chicago
Rashid Khalidi =co-founder Arab American Action Network
Jesse Jackson Jr.=Co-Chairman for Obama’s campaign
Oprah -Chicago

Louise   July 4th, 2008 7:07 pm ET

Having a hard time myself, although I'm a life long Dem. It's the gutless approach to healthcare for me. He seems like another wimpy politician who can't grasp the fact that universal healthcare is the basis for a civilized society. He's way too Washington. I want real change, not another cosmetic bandaid.

bibi   July 4th, 2008 7:06 pm ET

i would be very worried if Obama did not adjust his views on issues. He is a thinker and needs to evaluate constantly taking into account new information and changes in situations. That makes someone effective. We all do that in our lives. We keep looking for the best ideas and solutions and keep modifying or changing our initial ideas. This is what brings about progress. Hillary supporters it is time that you join the camp and stop all that bickering. Hillary wil only win the next time if the Obama supporters vote for her. So upsetting obama and his supporters might damage your candidate in the future. We will not forget !

Comment Policy   July 4th, 2008 7:05 pm ET

From Dreams Of My Father;
“That hate hadn't gone away,” he wrote, blaming white people,- some
cruel, some ignorant, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless
image of a system claiming power over our lives.”

Southerner   July 4th, 2008 7:04 pm ET

From Dreams Of My Father;
“I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I
began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites”

Fed up with the lies   July 4th, 2008 7:04 pm ET

The only poll that counts is the one in November. I suspect the Clinton backers when faced with another four years of Bush, will come around and support Sen. Obama.

CNN   July 4th, 2008 7:04 pm ET

From Dreams Of My Father;
After graduating from college, Obama eventually went to Chicago to interview
for a job as a community organizer. His racial attitudes came into play as he
sized up the man who would become his boss. “There was something about him
that made me wary,” Obama wrote. “A little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.”

Black   July 4th, 2008 7:03 pm ET

From Dreams Of My Father;
“To admit our doubt and confusion to whites, to open up our psyches to general
examination by those who had caused so much of the damage in the first place,
seemed ludicrous, itself an expression of self-hatred,” he wrote.

Kell Ca   July 4th, 2008 7:03 pm ET

Obama is doing just fine..have you seen the polls in Montana and VA :) he is ahead of McCain in his own states..and i just saw where he is blowing McCain..out of the water in New York. I was voting for Hillary but I NOW will be voting for Obama.

Anyone who says they would vote for McCain...is already a Rep...

get over it!

Obama'08

Black   July 4th, 2008 7:03 pm ET

From Dreams Of My Father;
“I learned to slip back and forth between my black and white worlds,” he wrote in
“Dreams.” “One of those tricks I had learned: People were satisfied so long as you were
courteous and smiled and made no sudden moves. They were more than satisfied; they were
relieved — such a pleasant surprise to find a well-mannered young black man who didn't
seem angry all the time.”

Red   July 4th, 2008 7:02 pm ET

From Dreams Of My Father;
Obama’s racial suspicions were not always limited to whites. For example, after
making his first visit to Kenya, he wrote of being disappointed to learn that his
paternal grandfather had been a servant to rich whites. He wrote in “Dreams” that
the revelation caused “ugly words to flash across my mind. Uncle Tom. Collaborator.
House n_gger.”

White   July 4th, 2008 7:02 pm ET

From Dreams Of My Father;
“To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more
politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist
professors and structural feminists.”

Lisa   July 4th, 2008 6:59 pm ET

Schneider doesn't know what he's talking about re: HIllary's supporters coming around. If we haven't at this point, it aint' going to happen. And here's another newsflash, the only change that Mr. Obama represents seems to be in terms of his positions including on public campaign finance, faith based initiatives, the constitutionality of gun control in DC, the death penalty for non-death related crimes, NAFTA, FISA and Iraq; please stop me if I missed any. Obama is a fraud, Hillary's supporters knew this in January and we know it now. We will never vote for him. NObama NOvember. PUMA baby!!

M.S. Indiana   July 4th, 2008 6:59 pm ET

Funny thing is, those people would not have voted for Hillary in the general election to too... We don't need those turncoats.

There is no way you can vote for McCain if you are Hillary supporter.. He is all she is against. She left the republican party because of the racism there. They wanna over turn women's right to choose. they don't want equal pay.. They wanna blame Iran for our oil problems and bomb them, so we will have even more problems, instead of facing them...
They wanna give more tax breaks, but only for the filthy rich..

bk   July 4th, 2008 6:58 pm ET

I am so sick of Obama supporters saying if you vote McCain your children will have to go to war. That is just plain stupid. McCain has a son over there. He wants the war to end too. Obama now sees that he can't get the troops out either, so he is back peddling. Anybody with any sense knows if we leave and all hell breaks loose and we have to go back it will be worse than before. Obama will say anything to get elected. McCain is more the middle of the road. We don't know what the h@@ Obama is.
One thing we know for sure Obama was installed by the DNC because they are of afraid of black people.

BLAME BUSH!!!   July 4th, 2008 6:57 pm ET

Belle2 ......... I am one Democrat who will find it very hard to vote for Obama. So far, I have seen no evidence that he is qualified; he has no experience......... EXPERIENCE IS WHY THE ECONOMY IS ALL SCREWED UP!!!!......GOP knows how to get into your HEAD!!!!

Sandra   July 4th, 2008 6:57 pm ET

Oh my God. Clinton supporters really need to grow up. I mean honestly, do they have any idea what will happen if McCain ends up president? It is time to unite the party and back a candidate that will try to repair the damage that has been done in the last 8 years as well as try to avoid further damage if McCain wins. Wake up people!

Bye Bye   July 4th, 2008 6:57 pm ET

Ha Ha Ha .......................I told ta so..........CNN.

Us Hillary voters are gonna slam Obama in November............kiss his but goodbye!

A Latte Lover, Seattle, WA   July 4th, 2008 6:56 pm ET

This is all getting so ridiculous, and the media just keeps feeding it. Many of us saw through Hillary and her lies and pandering, that is why we did not support her in the primaries. She is the one that ran a very negative, inept campaign, she lost, get over it. If you want to vote for McCain, go for it. You people repeat the same thing over and over and over on these blogs. Remember 18 million voted AGAINST her, so not everyone thinks she is the greatest. The main thing for me, was her sense of entitlement.

Jake: ) Hillary and Obama agreed on everything. Which is the funny part. The difference between their healthcare plan, Obama will make it cheap, Hillary will make it free. Now lets add McCain to this mix;

Hillary = Free
Obama = Cheap
McCain = Expensive

There is no such thing as free health care. You would still get charged. I support Obama, but I am against Universal Healthcare. Hillary wanted mandates, meaning that you didn't have a choice, and wages would be garnished if you didn't purchase it. (personally, I think it would be hard to push this one through). If it does get pushed through, what level of care would we actually receive??? Why would Doctor's specialize in a particular area? There wouldn't be any benefit to them... Obama is mandating that children be covered. My choice would be more inexpensive health care that more could afford. I don't like the idea of being told that I have to do something. I guess that is why I am an Independent, and not a true Democrat. Anyway, I do not agree with Obama on everything, but I don't think we can stand 4 more years of Bushisms. He is the better choice between him and McCain. Obama was not my first choice, neither was Hillary, but he is definitely my 2nd and only choice now.

OLDER WOMEN FOR OBAMA, 08

Lynn   July 4th, 2008 6:56 pm ET

The reason Clinton supporters are not backing Obama is simple. The way the election was run. If it would have been fair and square there would not be a story. She is the best candidate and he would be a fool not to have her as his VP. I don't even know if she would take the job as VP. There are alot of reasons why I will not vote for Obama, but with her as VP I would feel safer and I know with her input the country would be headed in a better direction. I don't look for him to do it. He is too arrogant. The way he and his surrogates treated her during the election. He had the media eating out of his hand. He could no wrong. I am sick and tired of being called a racist – Avembe the sun. It is getting old.

A SONGBIRD SANG IN VIETNAM   July 4th, 2008 6:56 pm ET

Fella – your intimidating lying tactics won't work

You and the others have to attach labels that are not true – we have the right to vote for who we want. YOUR LABELS WILL NOT WORK.

APS in Hawaii   July 4th, 2008 6:56 pm ET

Obama is changing what he stated int he primaries. He lied to steal the nomination from Hillary. The super delegates voted him into the nomination, not the people. Howard Dean is so stupid he cannot realize he caused part of this mess with Florida and Michigan. The Democrat party elite deserve to get a life and realize they do not control the party. They can steal a nomination, but they will lose in November. I Have been a life long Democrat, but not this year, I will not vote for an incompetent and lying person just because the DNC says so. Sorry to say, I am voting for McCain to send a message to the elitists in the party. I am willing to suffer for four years if necessary to get the message about stealing my vote.

LA2NC   July 4th, 2008 6:54 pm ET

Juan, Texas July 4th, 2008 5:29 pm ET

Hillary '12!

As a Hillary Clinton supporter I absolutely REFUSE to vote for Barack Obama. There is no way I'm voting for someone who was a "Junior" Senator.
_______________________________________________
Apparently you don't know the definition of a junior Senator. If you voted for Hillary Clinton, you voted for a junior Senator.

I'm sick of people who complain about the way the Clintons were treated. Trust me, THEY GAVE BETTER THAN THEY GOT. Remember, " If you can't take the heat" or " If you don't want to get hit, don't put on the pads" or "As far as I know" or my abolute favorite" Since when does one democrat attack another on universal healthcare, SHAME ON YOU BARACK OBAMA", while her team was attacking Barack on universal healthcare. And my favorite, using the picture of Bin Laden in her ad.

why wonder?   July 4th, 2008 6:54 pm ET

Why would I vote for the least qualified candidate.

i voted for the best one.

i will not encourage the corruption that installed the weakest democrat as nominee.

Too late   July 4th, 2008 6:53 pm ET

Gang rape is always the sure road to unity.

We loved watching the lesser candidate be protected while the better candidate was throttled.

Yep... unity it is.

Clinton/McCain   July 4th, 2008 6:52 pm ET

Jason, Texas,

I will blame YOU for all those things. A vote for Obama in the primary WAS a vote for McCain.

michael   July 4th, 2008 6:52 pm ET

its their right for sure but it doesnt show much sense at all maybe they will be happier if McBush is elected again..let's get real here use your heads!!!!!

Lee   July 4th, 2008 6:52 pm ET

The supporters' of Hillary Clinton who claim that they are democrats but cannot get behind Barack Obama are not just angry because Hillary did not win the nomination. I think that if Barack Obama was a white man they would have no problem embracing him. Black people have voted for whites all of their lives and we don't have a problem with it. Unfortunately, this country still has a long way to go and it is such a shame and a disgrace.

What will all these people do when Barack Obama is elected as the next president of these United States of America. Will they burn their own homes down. Wake up, there is a vast group of intelligent black people in America. We have the same dreams, hopes and aspirations that you do. Look yourselves in the mirror and try to be just and fair - Barack Obama is a gentleman who happens to be black and let's not forget that he also has some drops of white blood.

I am so disgusted with all these falsehoods; please just come out and say that you will vote for McCain or you will stay at home because you cannot vote for a black man. Please stop blaming Barack Obama for Hillary's short-comings. Barack Obama tried his best to treat Hillary with dignity and respect when he ran against her . He treated her that way because she is a democrat. I am a black woman and I support Barack Obama, but if Barack had lost to Hillary I would have no problem with voting for Hillary Clinton because I am a true democrat.

Barack knew that it would take delegates to win the nomination and he had a plan mapped out and won. Barack also knows that it will take 270 electoral votes; he knows that it is about the "Electoral College" and he has a plan mapped out for this one also and he will win.

Those of you who have insomnia and want to be put to sleep by John McCain please go ahead and vote for him. In addition, to those of you who want this terrible economy to continue with no end in sight please go ahead and vote for John McCain. Those of you who want to see the rich get richer please go ahead and vote for John McCain and finally, to those of you who want to see us in Iraq for the next 100 years please, please, please do go ahead and vote for John McCain.

For those of us who can see the writing on the wall and know that this country is on its way to ruin we will stand strong behind Barack Obama and we will be victorious.

Barack Obama '08. God Bless Barack Obama and his family and God Bless these United States of America.

Questioning   July 4th, 2008 6:51 pm ET

The real question this coming election is have Ameican's earned the right for an end to the nightmare of the last 8 years. If we take the chance and vote for Obama, we might not find everything changed over night but at least we will see a move in that direction. If we vote for McCain, we support the war in Iraq and want it to spread to Iran, our freedoms to continue to be eroded and a continuation of our country's use of torture as a tool to get false information, women's issues to continue to be ignored, and our country to continue the downward spiral that started with GWB. To all those republicans who call themselves Hillary supporters, you get the government you deserve.

I for one care about our nation and it's future...you obviously care more of your bruised egos.

enomisa   July 4th, 2008 6:51 pm ET

We can't all get along because vitriolic hate and vulgar insults are not condusive to unity.

Growl on PUMAS   July 4th, 2008 6:50 pm ET

My favorite part was being told how I should vote
and then being attacked for not obeying
and then being labeled a racist just to coerce me to your way.

I believe in freedom, justice and equality.

I will put fair elections above a nov win. What is 4 more years compared to a new trend in politics. A trend where you gut the other candidate of the party so you can win... a trend where you stir up hatred in your followers so they can attack fellow democrats for you... a trend where the DNC forces the better candidate out of the game...

No way Jose.
God is watching me.

Ricky   July 4th, 2008 6:49 pm ET

It is clear that all of those people were not Hillary supporters they were just voting to stop Obama. and now they just want let us know who really they were.It's obvious that a real supporter of Hillary wont vote against Obama.we're Democrats !!! Obama is our last opportunity, we cant miss it!!!

Clinton/McCain   July 4th, 2008 6:48 pm ET

I'm in that group of people who will be voting for McCain even though we voted for Clinton in the primary. I know 7 other close friends who voted for Clinton, but will not vote for McCain. We're from PA and NJ.

TexGEOas   July 4th, 2008 6:47 pm ET

Hard to blame Hillary supporters for not switching to Obama. They can spot a Marxist-Socialist when they see one. Smart people, those Hillary supporters.

race card time   July 4th, 2008 6:47 pm ET

You ain't seen nothing yet.

Sid you think you could force yourself into the white house by crying, "racist" whenever someone disagrees?

Elisabeth   July 4th, 2008 6:47 pm ET

What I remain angry about is how ugly it got from all sides towards Hillary. So I'm staying home – it's 100% settled in my mind. My enemies list
-The media (Olberjerk, Matthews, Drudge etc)
- A guy like Richardson is probably the biggest jerk ever – I don't know how he can live with himself badmouthing the Clintons like he did. I'm also happy Kerry has a challenger this year for the senate, and he has to explain himself on the war-vote)
- NARAL (everybody KNOWS Hillary was the best for women on abortion etc. You already see Obama backtracking on abortion somewhat)

So yes, I'm boiling with anger and sorrow and it won't go away :-(

Sara   July 4th, 2008 6:46 pm ET

If a person doesn't support Obama, FINE.....just don't vote or vote for McCain. If you don't like Obama's policies, FINE don't vote for him, he'll be just fine with or without your vote. He has a job in the senate and he's also a lawyer so he's going to be just fine.

Obama08!

Rise Hillary   July 4th, 2008 6:46 pm ET

First rule.....
True women do not encourage rape of another women.

Second rule....
Soul before party loyalty

Third rule...
True democrats believe in fair and free campaigns.

Emma, San Jose, CA   July 4th, 2008 6:46 pm ET

Andrew, did you forget how to use a sentence to make your point>

Independent!!!!!!   July 4th, 2008 6:44 pm ET

Fella from Chicago HRC has this country's people in her best interests and is an American who was born and raised with American values. Obama was raised by a father with no American roots and it shows in his far left Socialist/Maxist ideas........STRONG WOMAN GOOD VALUES .....STANDING BY BILL (MONICA....)HE WAS raised BY his WHITE MOM AND GRAND PARENTS ......get your facts straight ....
wonder y she is not the NOMINEEE..... ALL THAT EXPERIENCE AND BILL...... SHE RAN A POOR CAMPAIGN AND IN DEBT......remember Bosnia

Mike in Cali   July 4th, 2008 6:42 pm ET

As an independent voter, I think Hillary is the best person for the job as president of the USA. I'd like to see her run as a third party candidate. She doesn't owe the Democrats anything!

H Towell   July 4th, 2008 6:42 pm ET

wow-reading this site has been an experience.As I was a Clinton supporter and have been called all of the above names mentioned I just got out of the party.My grandson in Iraq supports Mccain and was angry that all he heard there was Obamas name,he was interested because the family voted for Senator Clinton.Living in MI was all the more devastating .lI think the way that the Obamas insinuated that the Clintons were racist and kept devaluing Bill Clintons presidency was so ugly and to be perfectly honest I got tired of the AAs threatening to riot if Obama did not win the nomination.Who really cares?It would not be the first time.

enomisa   July 4th, 2008 6:41 pm ET

So sorry to hear that...

I was certain we all enjoyed the media fueled hate fest and denigration of poor white democrats so much that we would rush to jump on the bandwagon of hype and division.... I mean hope and unity.

Marc PDX   July 4th, 2008 6:41 pm ET

Bubba thinks Barak's a schmuck! And he doesn't do much to hide it.

woman for fair politics   July 4th, 2008 6:40 pm ET

His minions use bully and thug tactics to force the people to vote for him.

While Obama himself uses soft spoken eloquent panderings to soft soap himself into the hearts of the people.

Too bad more than half of the party was not convinced by the con man.

Too bad hatred backfired on the Obama supporters...just like I warned it would.

Too bad Obama lacks leadership potential and Hillary is chock full of all the qualities to make a good leader.

She is not boastful or cocky or full of herself. She is dedicated to the country and the people who need a champion the most.

That is not me... I own my home outright, I earn over $120k, I am too old for Roe vs Wade.... but I still can raise Hell when I see injustice done. I marched and protested and burned bras. This fight is nothing.

Don't trash the least of us and expect the rest of us to back you up.

jane   July 4th, 2008 6:40 pm ET

I would not give the democrats my vote to win this election, they don't deserve it.

garcia   July 4th, 2008 6:39 pm ET

enough of the crying, go ahead and vote for mcain, you will be sorry, later. and don't cry than, want more of what we have now, just vote for mccain, what are you afraid off. we want change!!!!!!!. vote for that old prume.

Emma, San Jose, CA   July 4th, 2008 6:39 pm ET

The way Hillary Clinton tried to trash Obama did not help her be the nominee. Hillary was shamelessly self-serving and yes, narcissistic. I get the picture that a lot of her supporters who will not vote for Obama
are very much like Hillary. Somehow, the whining and trying to get revenge for their candidate losing, follows the Clinton pattern of behavior. It is also self-defeating.

Jeff Brown   July 4th, 2008 6:36 pm ET

Thanks Hillary... YOU and that old blowhard Gerry Ferraro are to blame for this divide!

True democrats   July 4th, 2008 6:36 pm ET

Guess the intelligent people are not so easily swayed by Oprah and other celebrity endorsements.

Guess the true Americans will not bow down to hatred in any form- against blacks or against women.

Guess the true democrats do not believe in threats, and intimidation as a way to force the voters your way.

Anyone but Obama.

Unity behind McCain is the race is tight.

Teach the haters and the biased media and the corrupt DNC to stay neutral and fair and not to sway the elections.

Save democracy.

Tony   July 4th, 2008 6:36 pm ET

If they feel good about the past 8 years, then they can vote for McCain. As a high school teacher with 2 children, I have gone through hell and back. Mortgage payments, gas and grocery prices are killing me. We have a clear choice in this election. I have decide!

Never Obama - Anti Obama movements gaining ground   July 4th, 2008 6:35 pm ET

Long live McCain & Romney as I and many Clinton supporters will be voting for Republican come November. To those Obama supporters who love to say McCain is a third Bush term, we say that we rather have a Bush third term then a Carter second term!

cedarsands   July 4th, 2008 6:35 pm ET

Go PUMAs!

Just donated to Senator Clinton again today in order to help her retire her debt and retire her indebtedness to the farce of a party the DNC has become.

The Democrat party and their 'selected' candidate do not deserve our support.

America First!!!!!

Jennifer - American in Canada   July 4th, 2008 6:33 pm ET

Sometimes we are not able to see the forest for the trees. Stop, breathe and maybe you can see a good thing when it's looking right at you. Use logic not emotions when voting for a candidate and maybe, just maybe we'll make the RIGHT choice this time. By the way let's be good to one another.

Susan from Scotts Valley, CA   July 4th, 2008 6:33 pm ET

Juan – Just a clarification – Hillary is a 'Junior' Senator.

Fella from Chicago – "HRC has this country's people in her best interests". I agree. And she says, vote for Obama.

lorraine   July 4th, 2008 6:33 pm ET

Obama dished Hillary all through the primaries and now for the good of the party she is expected to smile and say he is the best person for the job, I do not agree, she should try and keep him from stealing her ideas, if he makes her the Vice President then that is a different story – I wonder if she wants the job? I feel good that Bill Clinton has distanced himself from Obama and I can imagine how he feels having to have conversations etc with someone who tried to make people think he (Clinton was a racist) this made me madder than anything else that Obama did as in reality Bill and Hillary did work very hard for those of other races and everyone was treated fair. Enjoy the July 4th holiday from a Canadian.

Never Obama - Anti Obama movements gaining ground   July 4th, 2008 6:31 pm ET

must I say more!

Anonymous   July 4th, 2008 6:31 pm ET

Obama won because he had more delegates not because he won more votes. And based on the demographics it seems that Hillary did win the vote of the life long democrats. So if you voted for Obama that was your right. Just as it was my right to vote for who I thought was the better candidate, Hillary Clinton. I still think she would be the best candidate. This whole 'candidate of change' is such a farce. The fact that their positions are 90% the same is not a coincidence. So he takes her ideas and runs as a reformer. That just proves to me how unequipped he is to be president. I would love to have a liberal in the WH but it is more important to have someone who is qualified. Obama has not proven to me that he is up to the challenge. Some of you are right, this country is in bad shape in many ways and this election is very important. Too important in fact to turn over to someone as inexperienced as Obama.

Sean from Orlando   July 4th, 2008 6:31 pm ET

It is like this; at least in two states Clinton supporters want to vote for McCain because they had their votes stolen from them by the DNC as punishment for something that party leaders were responsible for in those states and the voters had no control over. These voters paid their tax dollars to have these primaries, they took the time out of their day to vote, and they put their hearts into their votes not actually believing that their own party leaders would actually steal their vote. Obama supported voters in FL and MI having their votes stolen from them and so for this I can see why these voters would want to vote for McCain and not Obama as I will be doing. Voters were counted as half votes, not at all, and some voters actually had their Clinton vote changed to Obama. This vote was not a true reflection of the voice of the people and Obama was basically hand selected by the DNC. In reality Obama did not win anymore than Bush won in FL. I would have liked Obama had he stood up for the voice and vote of everyone in FL and MI. If he was so sure he could have win if our votes were counted as they should have been then he would have been more than happy to insist that these voter's votes count, but he choose the other way. For me voting for McCain and not Obama has nothing to do with bitterness that Hillary lost, it has everything to do with voter rights in this country. As we have seen with both Bush and now Obama, our election system is flawed! I would vote for an Obama/Clinton ticket because I think that is compromise (which we need more of in this country to start getting things accomplished). Truly they would both make a great ticket, almost an unbeatable one. I do not like any of the other choices and I know many people here that feel the Richardson is the worst of all of them. As a Super Delegate Mr. Richardson went against the popular vote in his state proving that the system is flawed and many people will not vote for him for this reason! For me it is Obama/Clinton or McCain this year and I think this time Obama is going to have a tuff time getting people to sway how they feel about this and vote for him. People are not so gullible now as they were with Bush and we are all on our guard these days.

Sweetie   July 4th, 2008 6:31 pm ET

Want to end the war
Want to fix healthcare
Want to adress energy crisis
Want to vote Democrat
Want Hillary
DO NOT WANT OBAMA

TWO SIDES!!!   July 4th, 2008 6:30 pm ET

susie.......Obama's changed is changing what he said in the primary to what he is saying now. The DNC treated the democrat voters terrible and they don't deserve our vote. Hillary was consistent and knew her stuff..........LIKE BOSNIA ........YOU believed In her and SHE IS A good Polictian had a good TEACHER (BILL).......SUSIE go CHANGE YOUR u____.YOU are beginning to SMELL !!

enomisa   July 4th, 2008 6:30 pm ET

Really...

After Obama played the race card repeatedly... after he trashed HRC... after his mocking Annie Oakley act... after brushing her off his shouders... after twisting her positions that he has since adopted...after trashing the Clinton years... after agitating for hate... after encouraging his vile and ugly supporters to hate and trash and bash fellow democrats... after all his pandering for votes... after all his justifications for all his flaws... after being FOR Wright and then DISOWING Wright when it was politically expedient to do so.

Hillary stands tall and she stands firm. She did not even quake or shake under all the hateful attacks and heckling and media attacks. Obama caves in if something he says or does is not well received.

So who is the better leader? Who has the courage of HER convictions. Who would YOU vote for.

Hillary now and in the future.
Obama not now or ever.

Paula   July 4th, 2008 6:30 pm ET

Everybody's worrying needlessly.I still think it will be an Obama/Clinton ticket in the end.We need the white house back and I can't think of a better way to beat Mcain and his Bush buddies.I say we all stand with the HRC supporters and unite and get that dream ticket we all know we need.

Black Republican - New York, New York   July 4th, 2008 6:28 pm ET

To hell with the Clinton supporters. I can bet you that 99.9 percent of these supporters are white people who, despite belonging to the Democratic Party, cannot bring themselves to accept a black man as the party's candidate for President.

They are the wolves in sheep's clothing who have been lambasting the Republican Party as being anti-minority, but now we know who are the real anti-minority advocates: The white racists in the Democratic Party.

It's okay for blacks to always vote for a white Democratic candidate, but not for blacks to vote for a black candidate – that's rank racism that must be met with whites voting for their own white candidate and boycotting the black guy if he is the nominee.

Vote McCain and send Hillary back to Arkansas. By 2012 we should have a new breed of candidates who will make a 64 year old witch named Hillary 'Satan' Clinton be irrelevant then.

MARYANN Oswego IL   July 4th, 2008 6:28 pm ET

As a TRUE HILLARY voter...I am so glad to see other voters out there like me...I do not like either candidate I am glad I am not alone...Hillary is a true American leader...I am not a old white haired lady ,I only want who is best for our country...that person is HILLARY R CLINTON..(I will never come around to voting for MR. OBAMA) He has done nothing for the crime rate in Chicago or the Education for our young kiddos.Hillary 08 PLEASE

lynda   July 4th, 2008 6:28 pm ET

He doesn't need the PUMAS – they are sooooooo old coalition.

AJ   July 4th, 2008 6:26 pm ET

If McCain wins because of these people then I certainly hope they keep their mouth shut when their rights as women are taken away because McCain bans abortion and appoints Judges that are ultra conservative.

We are supposed to do what's best for the entire nation and ALL the citizens of ALL different backgrounds not just what you personally want. Ah, the joys of the "Me" nation.

Martin   July 4th, 2008 6:26 pm ET

I wonder why Cinton's supporters are still against Obama.

Smith in WPB   July 4th, 2008 6:24 pm ET

Interesting that the Obamazombies still aren't paying attention. Their messiah is flip-flopping all over the place and they simply make excuses for him.

Oh, and they continue to actually have the GALL to threaten those who do not agree with them and use their tired 'fear tactics'! Yup! Way to go brain-trusts! You definitely know how to win friends and influence people.

I'll vote for an honest man over a dishonest one any day. I'll vote for someone with work experience over someone who never shows up any old day. I'll vote for a man with reliable contacts before I'll vote for one with racist contacts and who has written a book with racist comments.

Easy call for me.

REG in AZ   July 4th, 2008 6:24 pm ET

It doesn’t seem to serve much purpose to continually go over the current negative status of everything or repeatedly over how the Bush-Cheney administration and their supporters have so arrogantly and irresponsibly contributed to the problems just for self-serving purposes – as everyone is fully aware of all of that. Then all of the irrational and emotional negative attacks, which by the way have barely started and will become more aggressive (both overtly and covertly), lack any real credibility and are simply aimed to intentionally confuse and mislead (remember Swiftboat). There also doesn’t seem to be a lot of benefit in evaluating and arguing over any of the candidates’ current stated positions on individual issues as we know that so much is said for affect and all of it really is (even necessarily) subject to being adjusted. And, for sure, there is no value in lamenting over what should have been. There possibly may be some value in some of those things … but just not in the discernment process for deciding who to vote for. The only choice is either John McCain or Barack Obama and that simply is a choice between John McCain’s stated guarantee for more of the Bush-Cheney policies and more of Washington as usual, … or Barack Obama’s promise, with no guarantee, for a chance to have change, including for more focus on benefiting all of the people. To simplify, that is it and is all we really know and will ever know for sure. Regrettably it comes down to deciding whether you want more of the same or to take a chance on getting credible change, and that decision has to be based on what you feel, as whatever the candidates, their supporters, or even the media offer is contaminated with an abundance of subterfuge.

Mark Ramsey MD Milwaukee WI   July 4th, 2008 6:23 pm ET

For God's sake, pick her as the V.P. Do it now. Do not let this unrest continue. Don't let these polls make people hesitate and people start listening to John McCain. You can convince people that you have brought Clinton under the change banner and she is working for you, not the other way around. Pick her as V.P., or we're gonna have 4 more years of republicans in the White House.

fuhgptgn'wdncvviub   July 4th, 2008 6:23 pm ET

No warning signing or anything.McBush or Obama in the white house.A brainy talnet or ,yet, another dumb man climbing on his family's fortune to the highest office in the world

You Idiots !   July 4th, 2008 6:23 pm ET

Socialist/Maxist ideas...

Fella from Chicago,

And why is that bad?
Can you give me an educated answer to why that isn't better than Mc Cain's way of thinking?

JJ from Arizona   July 4th, 2008 6:23 pm ET

Guys – The flip flop game is stupid. Obama said he wanted to pull out of the war, so everyone got pissed because they thought he was ignoring the generals on the ground. They said a real leader should listen to the commanders too. So, he said ok, we have to listen to the commanders. Now you call him a flip flopper for not sticking with the original plan. Can Obama really make you happy?

Bottom line is, Clinton effed up. She had a mediocre strategy in the primaries and he competed better. If the DNC gave her the nomination, she would then be the favored one to had the election fixed. That's not right either. Just let it go.

Peter E   July 4th, 2008 6:23 pm ET

'Racist, racist, racist.' Is there any other argument you Obama supporters ever make? Can you imagine that there are millions of us who don't support Obama for other reasons than 'racism?'

Nt   July 4th, 2008 6:22 pm ET

If Obama loses this election, the democratic party will be over because African americans like me will not support the democratic party again.

Cindie   July 4th, 2008 6:21 pm ET

You need to really take a LONG look at all the FLIP FLOPS that obama is doing. McCain is the 'only' one that can keep our country safe. Don't you people get it? STOP drinking the KOOLAID.

art   July 4th, 2008 6:21 pm ET

Back in January, I commented at one of this CNN blogs that Obama has no chance on becoming the President. Despite him being the presumptive nominee, I still believe that he is not going to win. It was a pity to listen to his advisers in the last two days trying to justify the change of Obama's position in Iraq as "no change". They all said a different thing. Who would have thought that in a year the economy is in such a bad condition, the elections are so close and democrats will not win.

TEXAN   July 4th, 2008 6:21 pm ET

Come on guys...WE are all in this together. Even Hillary has graciously embraced and supports Obama. She knows that he wants the same for our country that she does If Hillary had won instead of Obama, we ( Obama supporters from the start) would be supporting her. Let's stop this division in Democrats and get Obama elected. HE IS THE BEST MAN FOR PRESIDENT !!!!

APS in Hawaii   July 4th, 2008 6:20 pm ET

Obama is changing what he stated int he primaries. He lied to steal the nomination from Hillary. The super delegates voted him into the nomination, not the people. Then the Howard Dean is so stupid he cannot realize he caused part of this mess with Florida and Michigan. The Democrat party elite deserve to get a life and realize they do not control the party. They can steal a nomination, but they will lose in November. I Have been a life long Democrat, but not this year, I will not for an incompetent and lying person just because the DNC says so. Sorry to say, I am voting for McCain to send a message to the elitists in the party. I am willing to suffer for four years if necessary to get the message about stealing my vote.

Ellie in Aurora, CO   July 4th, 2008 6:18 pm ET

Gee, alot of you wouldn't have voted for JFK or Lincoln either, apparently, if you're talking about experience! Obama actually has more than both of them.
And stop buying into the media portrayal of Obama flip-flopping! On the major issues – health care, Iraq (listen to him talking again about getting out in 16 months – same as in the primary), education, green jobs and the economy, and any other major issue on his website – THEY ARE THE SAME AS THEY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN. If you don't like his position on issues, then vote for someone else, but stop being a bunch of emotional nitwits and say your are voting or staying home out of spite. Is that how you run your life? Do things out of spite? Well, that says more about you than it does about Obama!

craziness   July 4th, 2008 6:18 pm ET

Juan-Hillary is also a junior senator. So that defeats your argument.

Fella from Chicago-Barack was not raised by his African father. It would take you 1 minute of research to learn that but instead you choose to propogate lies and untruths. Your choice.

Brian   July 4th, 2008 6:17 pm ET

I just don't get it... people still wants another 4 more years of failure with McCain? I mean really people, this is the last chance America can finally move forward. It's not just rhetoric... it is the Truth. Last 8 years has damaged America and we still have chance if Obama is President... McCain will completely destroy America...

Yinka Omidire   July 4th, 2008 6:17 pm ET

I've been following the Clinton?Obama debate for ages and one thing never seizes to amuse me. The primary has come and gone, Clinton lost. She lost because she did not have enough delegates. Forget Florida and Michigan. They broke the rules. I'm sorry tosay this, but you guys are all spoilt, it's like watching American Idol. Nothing is going to change or remove Obama as the Domocratic nominee. Black democrats in America, over the years always voted along party lines even if they did not like the candidate. First time a black man is is the democratic nominee, problem. All those PUMA or whatever the name is, stay at home or vote McCain, your choice. Don't jump on the bandwagon later, we wouldn't let you. Vote for the reverse of Roe vs. Wade. Vote for an end to women's rights, vote Mccain and commit your childrens children to another 100 years in Iraq.

tvlcrazy   July 4th, 2008 6:17 pm ET

This is not just about Clinton – it has become bigger than that. This is about a stolen election, and the DNC selecting a candidate instead of electing one. There is no way that I will ever vote for Obama – he could have waited 8 years like he initially said he would and learned a little more about politics and our country, but he just couldn't wait and let his ambition and enormous ego once again get the better of him.

He is the most divisive candidate I have ever seen in my lifetime, who has scarred this country with racial tactics and sent us back at least 30 years. He has completely ruined our democratic belief system and all that we stood for. Many, including myself, feel betrayed by the party we have been so loyal to for so many years.

If those of you who support Obama cannot understand why many of us don't, that remains your and BO's problem.

But mark my words: we will DEFINITELY remember in November.

P.U.M.A.!!

sffrank   July 4th, 2008 6:16 pm ET

Change you can count on. Hmmm- I guess that means that Obama reserves his right to constantly change his positions on issues. A different kind of politician–Is it my imagination or is Senator Obama abandoning his core base- No FISA, yes FISA. We will leave Iraq- we will stay in Iraq. Good luck Obama supporters. You will realize that it is not Senator Clinton who has her best interests above the American people's, it is Obama's arrogant, I say one thing and do whatever it takes to get elected. Politics as usual. Obama will lose to McCain sadly. But you can blame yourselves, Obamamaniacs not Clinton supporters for this one. Face it–You voted for the weaker candidate.

david   July 4th, 2008 6:15 pm ET

I am tired of these so called puma idots. For all those people who says Obama is not going to win without your vote, you are full of s#@!. I tell you one secret, for each Hillbilo supporter who said not voting for Obama, there are two new voters made up of Republicans, Indipendents and first time Democrats who vote for him. I, a long time republican, my sister, brother, their friends and my friends most of them are voting for the first time will vote for him. So, quit b...ching because we all know you are not going to vote for him anyway.
Beside what Kerry carried in 2004, NM, CO, MT, IA, MO, VA, FL AND OH are going blue.
347 total electoral vote at least.
You heard it here first.
david from Ohio.

Greg from Big Island   July 4th, 2008 6:15 pm ET

They are angry because a black stole the show from a white women. The people who don't want to support Barack are racist, mad, sore losers, and not true Democrats. Obama can make up the loss Hillary supporters by winning the majority of independents, young/new voters, large number of blacks that will vote in November, and disgruntled Republicans. If he is worried about losing them then Obama might as well pick Hillary as the VP and winding losing independents and new voters and black voters. Black voters are still angry at Bill and Hillary. If Clinton would have manipulated her way to the nomination over Obama, blacks would have not come out to vote or maybe would have left the Democratic party. As an African AMerican I think blacks should leave the Democratic slave plantation and be neutral or independent. It is like whiteDemocratic voters who supported Hillary are mad at Obama because he won the nomination. Don't let a slave become greater than the Master (Blacks rising to the top Democratic national tickets) That is why you have the group called PUMA-they are angry racist white Democrats who hate Obama and oppose party unity!!!!!!!

Ann Furthermore   July 4th, 2008 6:14 pm ET

PUMA wants to hand this election to McCain and trash America out of spite. Is this kind of childish thinking going to help Hillary in the future? Absolutely NOT. If they sway this election, then Hillary and her supporters will be seen as traitors and will never be trusted again. Hillary's political career will be over and everything she worked hard to accomplish will be flushed down the drain.

No one who really believed in Hillary's policies could possibly vote for McCain since he is her complete opposite on the issues (especially when it comes to us women). Voting for McCain would be a disaster for everyone.

Are these really just Republicans "pretending" to be Hillary supporters, or are these just self-indulgent fools who are willing to destroy America because they didn't get their way? AMERICA should be our first priority, not some selfish tantrum they want to have.

Stephan   July 4th, 2008 6:11 pm ET

they'd better vote for mccain stop talking about this nonsense

God saw   July 4th, 2008 6:11 pm ET

PUMA PUMA

Reclaim democracy.

Teach the DNC NOT to fix primaries.

Make them play clean and fair next time.

No to filthy, ugly insults and denigration.

No to bully tactics.

NG in DC   July 4th, 2008 6:10 pm ET

Note to Juan, Texas - I'm a Hillary supporter too, but she too is a JUNIOR Senator, so don't use that as your argument not to vote for Obama.

Obama/Clinton 08!

John   July 4th, 2008 6:09 pm ET

Amazing, really. Hurt feelings trump self-interest. No matter how much more similar Clinton is to Obama, core followers cannot get past their hurt feelings.

No wonder Republicans continue to get the presidency.

God saw   July 4th, 2008 6:09 pm ET

God was watching.

He don't like ugly.

Rape the lady and then expect the vote of her supporters?

Yeah... in the next world.

God was watching   July 4th, 2008 6:08 pm ET

Race trumped gender.

All we wanted was an honest competition.

Obama gave us a race baiting, hate filled, insult fest.

The media helped stomp on Hillary.

The DNC watched the gang rape and said nothing.

We, the people will have the last word.

A nightingale Sings in Berkley Square   July 4th, 2008 6:07 pm ET

I liked Hillary and would vote for her again

But never Obama and his tribe of hate mongers led by that wife of his.
geez

McCain knows our values. obama and his people trash our values. Have they no pride,

Kate, Atlanta   July 4th, 2008 6:07 pm ET

Just last week, all the polls said that the dems were united, and now this junk?!?!?! Don't believe it, or those single digit polls between McWar and Obama – the media just loved that dem primary horse race and they are making stuff up to make it seem that it's still close or divided – total BS.

for truth   July 4th, 2008 6:06 pm ET

Lady Liberty was sacrificed for the first half-black man to run.

deacon   July 4th, 2008 6:06 pm ET

We want usa to lead the whole world again and the only one who can bring that leadership to americans is Obama.I wonder why people says obama is inexpereince,Look at Bush,Macain claim to be expereinced guys but see the mess they have cause us.Change all the way.

we saw you trash Hillary   July 4th, 2008 6:06 pm ET

You can't strong-arm, race bait, insult, trash and thug your way into people's hearts.

Chicago style dirty politics will not work on TRUE democrats who believe in fair play and equality.

Don't demean, belittle and ridicule fellow democrats and then expect their vote.

EVEN if you are now our ONLY democratic candidate choice.

We will still protest the dirty politics and the theft of the primary.

xddy4u   July 4th, 2008 6:06 pm ET

Come on folks and CNN, Hillary lost the nominee. How can some say that Obama stole the nomination? When at one point he went on a 11 state run? Obama won facing two "dynamic" personalities, Bill and Hillary. If the DNC hadn't caved in to public pressure, Fla and Mich wouldn't even came into play. Because all candidates had signed them off. Florida turn out was basically home owners voting on the homeowners tax referandum. Many didn't even bothered to vote because the papers made it clear their vote wouldn't count because Fla was stripprd of it's delegates. If Hillary was so wanted, she wouldn't have had to come out with the "kitchen sink' stragety. and played on the women voters emotions so emotionally, until right this moment they are still under her spell. ladies it's over. Anyway, over 54% of Hillary's supporters say they will vote for Obama. The sad part of all this, is that all this is going on inside one party. We have a golden opportunity to win the White House and Congress, but if we are not careful, we're going to let all this BS sink us, and the GOP will come out on top again. Dems wake up, come out of the funk, and get aboard the Obama train. It's heading for Pennsylvania Ave.

Daniel Wagle   July 4th, 2008 6:06 pm ET

I don't think that accusing Hillary's supporters of being "crybabies" and every name in the book is the way to persuade us to vote for Obama. I will vote for him, however non-enthusiastically, because of the issues, such as healthcare and gay rights, but it is a legitimate concern as to whether he is being genuine about some of his positions, given how he changes them, such as on getting out of Iraq. It is also another legitimate concern as to whether he would be as ineffective as Jimmy Carter. Both Carter and Obama are right on MOST of the issues, but I don't really know how effective Obama will be on getting these things through congress. For instance, on nuclear safety, Obama practically caved in completely to the nuclear power industry on leaks in nuclear power plants. Carter, likewise, was very well intentioned but ineffective. Bill Clinton was right on most issues, but he also was effective in getting many things implemented. Downplaying the concerns people have about Obama is not the way to get people to vote for him. Of course we don't want Bush's third term with John McCain, but we also should not want the second term of Carter, because that will hurt the Democrat's chances down the road.

judd   July 4th, 2008 6:05 pm ET

At this point in time as a lifetime Democrat, after what the Democratic Leadership did to my Democratic Party by not counting all the votes and giving delegates to Obama in Michigan when his name was not even on the ballot, and all of the rigging of the election and the hateful demands that they made for Hillary to drop out of the race even before all of the states had voted, because they did not want her to win the popular vote...................for all of these reasons.............................

I a lifelong Democrat must place MY COUNTRY before party. The Democratic party and the congress has a negative approval rating of negative 75 percent. After seeing what they did to an outstanding Presidential candidate and seeing how poorly they have performed not only in running this election, but in running this country,

I MUST PUT COUNTRY before party and vote for McCain unless we can save Hillary as our nominee from these so-called Democrats who have destroyed the Democratic Party with Obama at the top.

Country before party everyone...............country before party!

CJV   July 4th, 2008 6:05 pm ET

The woman who established PUMA PAC have been outed as a GOP operative who donated to John McCain in February, during the height of the Democratic primaries. The story was mentioned last week on a Politico blog.
It's now obvious she and the other founders of related groups are part of a Republican campaign to nurture the unreasoning hatred and in many cases, racism, that some of Hillary Clinton's supporters held for Barack Obama.
I attribute their ability to do that to Clinton's constant denigration of Obama during the primaries and her talking up of McCain, despite the fact that McCain's policies and platform were entirely opposed to Clinton's.
Since Clinton suspended her presidential campaign, these supporters find themselves adrift and living in a fantasy-land in which they fervently believe Obama was the perpetrator rather than the actual recipient, of the primary campaign nastiness. They also fantasize about Saint Clinton rising from the dead and convincing the superdelegates to make her the nominee.
Their handlers, the GOP operatives, constantly feed and nurture these delusions with the intent of channeling votes to McCain in November.
It's a pity these former Clinton supporters can't see they're being tended like a flock of sheep, herded toward their eventual betrayal of everything Hillary Clinton worked for and believed in.

Susie   July 4th, 2008 6:04 pm ET

If you treat someone like the way Obama treated Hillary, then it tells you who he is and what kind of person he is. The Unity apperance was a "show"–there is no unity. NO body believes the show.

Bette   July 4th, 2008 6:04 pm ET

avembe, If it makes you feel better to say anyone that wanted Hillary but not Obama is racist, then you go right ahead. I am a Hillary support who would not vote for Obama, I have spoken to people in chicago, on the web who say he did nothing for them while he was in office, they say he is a empty suit that makes promises and doesnt follow through. I jumps back and forth on issues, whatever sounds good today. I wont stay home on election day, I will go and vote for John McCain. That is my vote as a tax payer and a citizen to vote for whomever I chose regardless if I am a dem or a rep. You Obama people sit there and mock and call names to people if you dont get your way.. PS I am not a racist I have a biracial child....

phony baloney Obama   July 4th, 2008 6:03 pm ET

Each day we miss her more and despise the way she was maligned and mistreated.

Democrats still remember 2000 and Fl.

We will remember the raping of Hillary and the trashing of her supporters in NOV of 2008.

FAIR PLAY
FAIR CAMPAIGNS
NO REVERSE RACISM
NO SEXISM
NO HATE
NO "Bro before Ho"

SOS!   July 4th, 2008 6:03 pm ET

frank ...........,whats there to support ?HE flip – flops all the time...............
you ARE FLOPPING NOW....They ALL FLIP FLOP..............McCain ,Bush ......Hillary she lied I guess you can call that a flip flop(Bosnia)......NOW shut the H_LL UP!
Run a propaganda campaign…manipulate the media… threaten the voters… denigrate your opponent… ridicule her supporters…
Yeah … sure… party loyalty before reason, conviction, principles.........
WHAT ARE YOU DOING NOW ........ It was an ugly campaign on both sides .............ITS all POLITICS GET OVER IT!!!!

A SONGBIRD SANG IN VIETNAM   July 4th, 2008 6:01 pm ET

Those supporters will never vote for Obama because HRC was a white woman that felt she was entitled to the nomination. The rest of the people caught her in every lie, they are sick of the Clinton/Bush crap, and those supporters are whining crying old women that wanted to vote for a woman – not for for issues – just any woman.

Ignore them – some are even Limbaugh Republicans.

Ignore them.

The whole world is watching – Obama will win.

Phillip   July 4th, 2008 6:01 pm ET

Hillary supporters who have pledged to vote for McCain...

We know you are pissed. We understand. Hill was ready to make history and was supposed to be nominated easily. She hasn't won, and you are understandably upset. But this is the freaking FUTURE OF THE COUNTRY. In fact, it's the future of the world. Can the U.S., or the world, really handle a third Bush term? And worse, would you consciously give it to them out of spite?

Disgruntled Hill supporters, it's time to step up and to the right thing. We know you don't like Obama, but NO ONE could be worse than King George, and McCain would simply be a repeat of that dynasty.

Obama is King   July 4th, 2008 6:01 pm ET

Simple reason:

Obama is NO Hillary.

KathleenM   July 4th, 2008 6:01 pm ET

If Obama loses in November, he'll have no one to blame but himself.
He's failed to convince millions of Democrats that he's anything more than a lightwieght race-baiter. Now with his flip-flopping and his weak excuses for supporting wiretapping and faith-based nonsense, even the Obama fanboyz are realizing that their Messiah ain't quite the progressive hope-n-changer they thought he was.

concerned   July 4th, 2008 6:00 pm ET

Why do all you Obama folks think just because we don't want to vote for your man means we are hateful.

I don't like the man and what he stands for. Don't trust him – too inexperienced and now as he flip flops on everything – no way.

No one will be able to get our troops out in 16 months. He is just spinning his tale.

Another point – his wife – can't see this bold, arrogant, nasty, outspoken person with no style in clothes to represent my country as first lady. No way.

Can't have my lady Hillary (who knows her stuff and didn't flip flop once) then it's McCain for this gal. I won't just stay at home – I'll vote.

LEAVE HER ALONE – all you people for Obama and the meda. Also – all this nice talk from Obama about Hillary – bull – in a way it makes him look even lower than he is.

still for Hill   July 4th, 2008 6:00 pm ET

Hard to jump from a tested, strong, principled true leader to...
well, an installed leftist puppet.

Betty   July 4th, 2008 6:00 pm ET

These Clinton supporters seem willing to give us 4 more years of war and thousands more of our young people dead in a war that even the generals say can't be won; a president who says the way for women to be paid equal wages is for them to go get more education; a president who doesn't support our veterans when they come home, etc., etc., etc... OR, they can grow up and honor Hillary by supporting a president who will implement the programs that she has fought so long for and for what she has done. The next time a woman runs for president it will be much easier because of her. But this childish behavior will only make it harder for the next woman. If you're planning to vote for McCain, or to stay home, think very carefully about what you're doing.

retired man   July 4th, 2008 5:59 pm ET

Now that Obama has agreed with FISA and approved funding the Iraq war (again) and has cleared up the misunderstanding that 16 months might not be 16 months - what is the difference between him and Hillary? (Other than Bill?)

Obama remorse   July 4th, 2008 5:59 pm ET

Well, Hillary was for us- the people and her country.

Obama is for himself and making history.

Tough choice in troubled times.

Bring back the woman and we will unite.

jimmy velman   July 4th, 2008 5:59 pm ET

THE SILENCE OF THE LATINO VOTERS IS DEAFENING. AND SO ARE THE BLUE COLLAR, WHITE COLLAR, SENIORS, THE "BITTER, GUN OWNING WHITE FOLKS OF SMALL TOWN AMERICA.
THE FLIP FLOPPING CNADIDATE. AND SO MUCH MORE.
HONOR THE FOUNDING FATHERS OF OUR GREAT COUNTRY.
WATCH THE CELEBRATIONS TODAY jULY 4TH 2008 AND SING ALONG OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM AND PUT YOUR RIGHT HAND OVER YOUR HEART AND SHW YOUR LOVE FOR OUR GREAT COUNTRY. MAY ALMIGHTY GOD BLESS AMERICA.

OldUncleTom   July 4th, 2008 5:58 pm ET

HRC supporters... you believed in her once, believe in her now! Listen to what she has to say about the party, the election, and Barack Obama...
The party can have only one nominnee; there will be no surprises at the Convention, so stop wishing life were different than it is.
You want John McCain? Then vote for him! Ignore the simple fact that the only thing John McCain has in common with Hillary Clinton is skin color! Maybe that is enough for you, but its not for me.

Rick   July 4th, 2008 5:58 pm ET

I'd like just one of these PUMAs or whatever the heck they are called to find me one speech by Obama where he disrespected Clinton or "trashed and bashed" her. The closest I can think of was the Annie Oakley comment, and she was saying MUCH worse stuff about him at the time. Rather, I remember hearing him say stuff like she was a "formidable candidate" and "would be on anyone's short list." Bashing, trashing, indeed.

M in Maryland   July 4th, 2008 5:57 pm ET

Wow. Where do you get this stuff? ..." race baiting, his cheating, his lies and finally by stealing the nomination." Ohhh... "Bitter, party of one?!"

I'm sorry, I watched as much coverage of the primaries and the movements of these candidates as I could get. I didn't see any of what you describe here. The DNC didn't do themselves any favors putting themselves in a position to resolve Michigan and Florida, but for Michigan in particular, they did what the state asked for! There was no good way out of that situation. Unfortunately, popular vote isn't the criteria for nomination.

If Obama hadn't won, I would have voted for Hillary because I'm voting for their positions on issues and heir positions are very similar. No politician is perfect. Idolizing Hill as some sort of Saint Hillary, well, that's just silly.

Vote issues people.

Kasha   July 4th, 2008 5:57 pm ET

My first choice was for Hillary. If she is not the Dem candidate than my second choice is my own business. It does not make me hysterical or "bratty" if that second choice is not Obama. Blindly following a Party, when you think it has made a big mistake, is just that–blind.

But don't stay home folks. As someone else pointed out, there are Third party candidates out there Read up if you need to and vote accordingly to make a statement for something you believe in. This two-party system is not serving us well. Not any of us.

Obama and Kennedy 08 and 12   July 4th, 2008 5:56 pm ET

This is nothing new The PUMA's believe that Obama should have waited or stepped aside so that a woman could make history – I blame the Clinton's for stroking that flame. During slavery although Fredrick Douglas was a strong advocate for Women's Rights and the Suffrage movement while Black men were considered less then 1/3 of a man and Black men and women were in bondage and had NO rights, White women believed that Douglas should have spoken more about their rights then against slavery. Here are some quotes from Frederic Douglas:

• Should the females of New York be placed on a level of equality with males before the law? If so, let us petition for this impartial justice for women. In order to insure this equal justice should the females of New York, like the males, have a voice in appointing the law makers and the law administrators? If so, let us petition for Woman's Right to Suffrage. [1853]

• On putting a priority, after the Civil War, on votes for African Americans males before women in general] When women, because they are women, are dragged from their homes and hung upon lampposts; when their children are torn from their arms and their brains dashed upon the pavement;... then they will have the urgency to obtain the ballot.

• When I ran away from slavery, it was for myself; when I advocated emancipation, it was for my people; but when I stood up for the rights of women, self was out of the question, and I found a little nobility in the act.

Obama and Caroline Kennedy 08 & 12

Texas NObama Democrat   July 4th, 2008 5:56 pm ET

Hillary Clinton has little to do with not voting for Obama. It is about Obama, Jeremiah Wright, and their followers. Once I saw Jeremiah Wright giving his anti-American hate speeches while his followers were clapping and cheering. I knew that anyone that had been a member of that group for 20 years should not be President of the United States of America.

William   July 4th, 2008 5:56 pm ET

My faith in Obama has been shaken the last week or two but I still prefer him over McCain in who I have no faith at all.

Reb Rln   July 4th, 2008 5:55 pm ET

Today is day to think about after President G. Bush. Our Country becomes a 1/3 world country. It's for everybody who loves America tochange this administration for another one. put away all personal interets away to vote for Democract Presidential nominee Senateur Barrack Obama for President of United States of America. America can not afford another Bush.

brian   July 4th, 2008 5:55 pm ET

I think the headline writer, and the writer of this story ought to read the actual survey! June 4-5 survey shows those not very likely/not likely at all to vote in November at 7%; new survey shows that number at 9% – yes, more, but statistically insignificant. when the margin of error is 3.5%. Furthermore, to have some perspective on how "real" these numbers are, look at the 2000 numbers to see the much larger percentage of McCain supporters who swore they would never vote for Bush, through October (over 25%) but Bush still won that election, right?

Nick   July 4th, 2008 5:55 pm ET

Oh no! it looks like Obama is not going to get the old, bitter, uninformed, hysterical, delusional, uneducated, white women vote!

Tim   July 4th, 2008 5:54 pm ET

You voted for change Didn't you!

Rasmus   July 4th, 2008 5:54 pm ET

Hell, it´s a JUNE poll. EARLY JUNE, before Clinton dropped out.
The narrative changed completely, Obama had a good media narrative and got a unity bounce in the poll numbers. This poll is just outdated and not worth paying attention to.

Greg California   July 4th, 2008 5:52 pm ET

It amazes me that people think Obama degrated Hillary or talked bad about her during the primaries. If you remember, he avoided talking bad about her until she decided to go there. In my opinion, the reason Clinton supporters can't stand Obama is that Hillary made it a point to turn them against him. If the General Election goes to McCain, the Democrats can thank Hillary for trashing Obama and deviding the party.

jimmy velman   July 4th, 2008 5:52 pm ET

CHOOSING CAROLINE KENNEDY (AGAIN) TO VET POSSBLE
VP CAMDIDATES WITH OBAMA IS PUZZLING TO SAY THE LEAST
WHAT DOES CAROLINE KENNEDY KNOW ABOUT THE MANY POLITICIANS ELIGIBLE FOR THE VP SPOT.
ONLY ONE THING IS CERTAIN HOWEVER.. OBAMA IS SHIRKING THE RESPONSIBILITY OF NOT CHOOSING HILLARY FOR THE SPOT., KNOWING HOW TED KENNEDY AND CAROLINE INITIALLY
IN THE CAMPAIGNS DID NOT SUPPORT THE CLINTONS. AND LOUDLY PROCALIMED THEIR SUPPORT FOR OBAMA.
WE HEAR AND WE KNOW WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.. NO OBAMA-CLINTON TICKET.. THAT IS WHY CLINTON SUPPORTERS WHO HAVE SUSPECTED SUCH AN OBAMA PLOY ARE WATING FOR OBAMA TO MAKE KNOWN HIS VP CHOICE.

THE ONLY DEM who can lose in NOV   July 4th, 2008 5:52 pm ET

The more we see of the real Obama, the less impressed we are.

The anti-Hillary hatred that he encouraged and manipulated to his advantage did not help him to win back those he trashed and insulted.

Observer   July 4th, 2008 5:52 pm ET

I've heard through talk that die-hard Clinton supporters are planning Hillary's resurrection in 2012 by not voting or not voting for Obama this year. They also believe that McCain is not a two-term president as the other reason they are justifying this course of action in order to get Hillary back on the presidential race post-haste.

judyb   July 4th, 2008 5:52 pm ET

Hillary Clinton is using Obama to pay her millions in debt...she ran a negative disorganized campaign and lost fair and square. If you don't like Barack, then vote for McCain and watch our freedom and stability disappear.

illegitimate nominee   July 4th, 2008 5:51 pm ET

Everyone knows that Hillary is the best.

Even Obama has morphed his positions into the Original HRC platform.

Lets go with the REAL deal, not the imitation pretend candidate.

Marge   July 4th, 2008 5:50 pm ET

Some of Hillary supporters do no understand the process. Obama won because of the VOTERS not the media.
Their refusal to support the dem candidate only shows their lack of knowledge of the issues.
It was reported during the primary that Hillary supporters were older, lower income, blue collar workers. It is those very people that are suffering most under GWBush. Now they say they won't vote or vote for MCBush!
So 4 more years of George W is more attractive to them than change.
Not very intelligent is it/

Military Man   July 4th, 2008 5:49 pm ET

I'm an independent. Personally? I'm voting for McCain. You can call him McShame, McSame, McBush ... I really don't care. I didn't care when you called Hillary "Billary" either. It's pretty sad how Obama supporters treated such a longstanding and faithful party servant.

I'm pretty middle of the road and so is McCain. He's the only presidential candidate that's actually crossed party lines in the past. Obama's way off in left field, and I've watched his message of "change" melt away in recent weeks to months. He's a career politician. He's not new, clean, or a representative of change. He is, however, a very eloquent and pleasant speaker, but flowery words aren't enough for me.

jc   July 4th, 2008 5:47 pm ET

Obama is way too liberal of a candidate for me. Extreme liberalism + no foreign policy experience gives me no other choice but to vote for McCain. This is the first time I have actually liked the Republican candidate. If anyone else was the Republican nominee, I just wouldn't vote this year.

susie   July 4th, 2008 5:47 pm ET

Obama is a flip-flopper! Voting for him is like voting for Carter again.

Deb,KS   July 4th, 2008 5:47 pm ET

I will never ever vote for Obama, what a jerk. I love Hillary, but my two options are to either not vote or vote for McCain. Hillary only for President.

Cathy in MD   July 4th, 2008 5:47 pm ET

That lady in the pantsuit. It's all her fault.

death blow   July 4th, 2008 5:46 pm ET

Well... we did not vote for Obama to begin with.

Now he has proved himself even worse than he appeared.

Obama uses race as a shield to deflect all criticism and as a sword to gut those who disagree with him.

All who disagree or criticize are threatened, silenced and labeled racist.

Why would we vote for such a man?

judyb   July 4th, 2008 5:45 pm ET

Hey Fella...Barack was raised by his mother and grandparents. Get your facts straight.

JWR   July 4th, 2008 5:45 pm ET

If Obama and the Democrats make a huge effort to support women's issues to make up for the way they allowed sexism in the press and among Obama supporters to run rampant, you might see Clinton supporters swinging back to Obama.

But so far, nothing's happened except a post-primary gasp by the DNC that they're 'just shocked, I tell you, shocked' at the gender bigotry that went on.

You think that's not a good enough reason for feminists to stay home? Oh well.

Mary   July 4th, 2008 5:45 pm ET

The Obama campaign and especially the supporters were vile and nasty toward the Clintons and the Clinton supporters do not forget. Besides, Obama is a true, blue socialist but is trying to win regular Democrats by easing toward the center. He is not to be trusted. He is a flip flopper.

Peter E   July 4th, 2008 5:45 pm ET

Obama beat her in the primaries. But he lost to her among democrats. Yes, more democrats voted for Hillary than Obama.

Obama won because independents and republicans manipulated the democratic party's internal affairs in open primaries, perhaps in response to the polls consistently showing how Obama would be weaker against McCain than Obama.

JB   July 4th, 2008 5:45 pm ET

Big Deal, so what? The butch women loving women can vote as they wish, the are a small minority now.

Obama 08. Deal with it, crybabies. Keep acting like children, it's pretty funny.

Emma Ohio Obama is a republican   July 4th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

Look at Obama' health care program; His Market based faith based program for government social services which steal public employees jobs who pay taxes for low wage non taxpaying churches and nonprofits. Obama is a free market republican corporatists. We democrats must stop his winning the democratic nomination and get a real democratic populist. This is serious. It is not our fault that Obama is just now letting us know what he stands for. He is going to make the democrat party look just like the free market republican corporatist party. I am greatly disappointed as I voted for him in the Ohio primary.

Rayon Whyte   July 4th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

I am wondering if the people who dont want to vote for Obama were democrats or Clinton supporters. I do understand how it feeling but the most important thing is to win in November right? my question to all those supporters is if it was the other way around would they want the other side to do what ther are doing? all so voting for the other side means what you get back at Obama. and if so we are missing the real thing here. i would then say to all democrats wake up and wise up or take another four (4) yrs of Bush in McCain's clouthing.

theodore   July 4th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

we need change

Chris Lee   July 4th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

Americans can be so hateful and small-minded! Seems that people all over the world think Obama is better than a republican replay–except the people who have suffered the most under that party in the last 8 yrs.

Obama plays the race card   July 4th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

We are behind Hillary.

The disrespect was horrible to watch.

The bias was painful to see.

The trashing was shameful.

The vulgar, filthy insults destroyed all hope of party unity.

Besides... Obama has no merits for the job.

ch   July 4th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

Add me to the list – and I have voted for a democrat in every national and local election since 1988. I cast my first vote for Jesse Jackson in the 1988 primary.

However, Hillary (with 18 Million Votes) was the best and strongest candidate in my lifetime and we will NEVER see another candidate of her caliber.

If she is not VP – I hold my nose and cast a protest vote!

francee   July 4th, 2008 5:43 pm ET

I will not vote for him unless he picks Hillary as his running mate. It's that simple. I will stay home and keep my vote and there are a lot of us who feel this way.

Without Clinton Obama Can't Win   July 4th, 2008 5:43 pm ET

Like I have repeated said, Obama CANNOT win without Hillary! The Obama campaign better wake up and embrace her as Vice President. Otherwise they will lose! Bottom line: Hillary is a force to be reckoned with and always will be.

wbnc   July 4th, 2008 5:43 pm ET

Give me a break. If you don't like Obama, vote McCain and then you'll get what you deserve...four more years of Bush, lies, distortions, debt, mafia connections, etc. Hillary and McCain voted to authorize the war...Barack opposed it. Take your pick.

salt of the earth   July 4th, 2008 5:42 pm ET

So much for Obama winning us back.

We were once WILLING to vote for HIM- until he used that willingness to knock Hillary out of the race with his bragging about his abilities to unite.

Yeah right.

Hate and race baiting usually do not unite people.
Neither do filthy insults and ridiculing others who disagree.

Not all are swayed by a good delivery of a prepared speech.
We look at the ACTIONS.

What goes around, comes around.

OBAMA ROCKS!   July 4th, 2008 5:42 pm ET

So why are the polls showing he's ahead? Maybe he doesn't even NEED these trashers to follow him. Clinton made sure they wouldn't when she ran her negative and divisive campaign. It's hard to come back from that, so she needs to take full responsibility for that. She should get down and dirty with these supporters, working to get them turned around, but she won't do that.

IF these people don't or do go out and vote for McCain, then she and her supporters will just need to take responsibility for another 4 more years of hell. And it'll be HER FAULT AND THEIR FAULT.

You can bring a horse to water but you can't make it drink. They're just being stupid. Obama can hopefully win without them.

Peter E   July 4th, 2008 5:42 pm ET

What's wrong Obama supporters? Throughout the primaries you kept chanting how you hate Clinton, how she should leave the party and all her supporters should stay home, shut up, they aren't needed.

Now you suddenly panic, realizing that McCain, despite having much less campaign money and airtime than Obama is still within easy striking distance to win the election?
NOW you need Clinton's supporters?

issac,Pa   July 4th, 2008 5:41 pm ET

That is the result of long primary season.

Fordy   July 4th, 2008 5:41 pm ET

Its Simple folks. People are free to vote(or not vote) for whoever they want to. Its a democracy. What i don't get is why so much attention is being placed on this. Barack is the nominee and that won't change, so how is it relevant how many people would prefer is Hilary was the nominee? Can we just move on please and stop giving attention to PPL with ADD. Not every democrat is goint to vote for Barack. Just like not every Democrat would vote for Hillary if she was the nominee. Can we just move on from the primaries now please? Have a nice day.

Juan, Texas   July 4th, 2008 5:40 pm ET

It's not RACISM they're facts. Obama is in NO WAY qualified to be the next Presidents of the United States. I would not feel safe, with McCain however, I would feel safe to sleep at night.

Dave G   July 4th, 2008 5:40 pm ET

To all who are considering voting for McCain, not voting, or writing in Hillary's name in November, please know that this will hurt Hillary Clinton. If she is perceived (rightly or wrongly) as dividing the party and losing the November election to McCain, then her power and influence as a Senator and future candidate will diminish.

At this point, the best thing we can do for Hillary is to do what she says and vote for Obama in November.

On the other hand, if you think another 8 years of war in Iraq would be a good thing, then go ahead and vote for McCain.

Abamanation   July 4th, 2008 5:40 pm ET

I will be true to my own self.

I will not be coerced, threatened or intimidated into voting for a candidate I do not like nor trust.

I don't care if he IS black... and I don't care if he is now my ONLY choice.

That ploy will NOT work. Yes, the nation is in a bad way... but I will not make it worse by voting for a thug who bullied his way to the nomination.

lawrence d.   July 4th, 2008 5:40 pm ET

McCain looks more increasingly appealing to me, compared to Obama.

As an Independent, I'm going to vote McCain. The slimy Obama has no backbone. Obama is a man of words, but he's not a man to keep his words.

sportsguydave   July 4th, 2008 5:40 pm ET

If Hillary's crybaby supporters don't grow up and support the party's nominee, they deserve whatever we all get from four years of McBush.

Greg   July 4th, 2008 5:39 pm ET

I don't understand why democrats that supported Hillary Clinton are willing to stay home or vote for John Mc Cain against their best interest. Our economy is the worst it has ever been and gas prices are higher now then ever. Yet we still have democrats arguing and saying destructive things towards each other. Obama seems to be doing everthing he can to bring about the change that our country needs to see these problems ended. I hope that Senator Clinton and Senator Obama's supports will unite for a better America. We all are suffering from the economy problems. I have been amazed at the anger and hostility in the comments. As supporter of Senator Obama I embrace Senator Clinton's supporters. Senator Clinton as a true democrat has given her support to Senator Obama, now we as the democrat party should support the canidate as a united force. You do not see the republican party acting the way some democrats are acting. The first step in change is true unity.

John Harvey   July 4th, 2008 5:39 pm ET

If Clinton supporters ruin everything and we get a Republican AGAIN, I really really really will be upset.

Teaneck for Obama   July 4th, 2008 5:39 pm ET

Well there's nothing else he can do about it. They're bitter and sore losers. However, our mission to get a literate, intelligent, leader in the White House must continue with or without them. I'll remember them in eight years.

Obama '08 and '12

GOBAMA!   July 4th, 2008 5:39 pm ET

This is not surprising. This woman did her best to brainwash a bunch of people who followed her only because they had genitalia in common with her. She turned them against Obama and divided the party. She worked hard and long and in a negative fashion to do this. People feelings got involved.

Now, just because she verbally says something, without the long and hard work involved and without the ability to deprogram these people...it just ain't gonna happen. Their minds are made up and they're too bitter. SHE made them that way–don't forget it. SHE did it.

Rutherford "Hussien" Hayes   July 4th, 2008 5:38 pm ET

18 million people did not vote for Hillary .... that was her exaggerating a bit to make a point ... the number was 17+ million. Of that number

some were trouble makers following the mischief of Limbaugh .... Obama was never going to get those ... neither was Hillary in a General election ..

some were republican WOMEN that crossed for gender reasons .... Obama was never going to get those.

some are prejudiced people that can't see a non-white candidate as leader of the free world .... Obama was never going to get those.

some are senior citizens that are more comfortable with a candidate over 60 years old ....meaning McCain and Hillary .... Obama was never going to get those.

the majority, were Democratic women and by staying on his message, Obama has gotten a fair number of those and will get the majority.

the new democrats stink   July 4th, 2008 5:38 pm ET

RISE, HILLARY RISE

Respect before party.

Freedom before political correctness.

Equality before sexism.

Fair play before installing a candidate.

Tori Young   July 4th, 2008 5:37 pm ET

Proves how racist her supporters are!

catalina   July 4th, 2008 5:37 pm ET

PUMA is right. Acceptance? Take time to heal? Obama is dreaming in thinking that we're going to forgive and forget.

No, picking Clinton as veep is not going to do it. I won't vote Obama as the nominee. Period. He has no substance, no judgment, no principle. All he has is fancy words that are meant to be broken, time and time again.

Do NOT doubt any of the Clinton supporters for being true democrats or not. Much as a person can love her country, be patriotic, and dislike the government at the same time. Obama does NOT – repeat NOT – represent Dem to me. Simply having stupid support from Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, and Ted Kennedy, does NOT mean he automatic support of all Dems, as the poll rightly shows.

To the dreamy Obama supporters: Every time I read that Obama is flip-flopping, I'd say, I told you so. Don't tell me that he has to do so in order to get elected. He's just another politician, but worse. He's the one with the sheep's skin.

Isidoro from Germany   July 4th, 2008 5:37 pm ET

...even by 1%! ...even without their support, we will make it in november as we won them in the primary! ...just for the benefice of our children! And because none can change the destiny! Change is on the way! More than enough have seen it ...but the selfish fanatics!!!

KC   July 4th, 2008 5:36 pm ET

Can you Clinton supporters stop minimizing rape and abuse by saying that that is what happed to Hillary in the primary? Rape and domestic abuse survivors have been through far worse than the little Democratic Primary that Hillary lost. I think Hillary would also reject the comparison. Thanks.

bill for barack   July 4th, 2008 5:36 pm ET

I honestly do not believe that all that many of Senator Clinton's supporters were long-standing members – and supporters- of the Democratic party. Rather they were attracted to her much in the same way that one might be attracted to a three-headed dog. Now that the side show is over, they're ready to go home. Let them.

Truth Seeker   July 4th, 2008 5:35 pm ET

If all those supporters of Hillary would just sit down and read the book "The Truth About Hillary" published in 2005, they'd support Obama in a minute! Come on, get the facts, READ THE BOOK!!!!
Do you really want someone like her for your leader???

John from LA   July 4th, 2008 5:34 pm ET

Is it dawning on Obama-that HRC supporters will NEVER vote for an inexperienced, flip-flopping, arrogant, same old politician!!!

Nobama-NEVER!!!!

from an Ind. voter

RJ, CA   July 4th, 2008 5:34 pm ET

Please don't "write in" Hillary. If Obama is on the ballot and you do that, in many states your vote will automatically be counted for Obama as the Democrat on that ballot - in others it will be thrown out altogether. Instead, vote for someone other than Obama that may be on your state's ballot.

George in PA   July 4th, 2008 5:33 pm ET

The reason so many of Hillary supporters are voting for John McCain is the same reason we voted for Hillary in the primaries.

Obama is not ready to be president. He would be the most unqualified person in American history to take office.

Obama is a typical hypocrite who says one thing and does another. He is a creation of the media and hysterical and uninformed college kids.

He has no judgement. No one I know wouyld spend 20 years listening to anti-American diatribe unless they were ok with it. I don't know a single Hillary supporter personally who could stand for this. Apparently the Obama people are OK with it. None I know "cling to guns or Religion "either.

McCain is a moderate man of obvious courage and integrity. He has a good plan on the environment and a healthcare plan that uses tax credits so people can buy their own healthcare. It is in fact better than Obama's which leaves 15 million uninsured anyway. If I have to vote for a Republican I'm glad someone like McCain is the option.

Obama is a fraud. He squeaked by losing the popular vote with the help of the media and his cult following amongst uninformed college kids, the black vote, and wholefoods regular snobs. Let's see if he can win with that coalition in November.

McCain/Hillary '08!!!

Fella from Chicago   July 4th, 2008 5:33 pm ET

HRC has this country's people in her best interests and is an American who was born and raised with American values. Obama was raised by a father with no American roots and it shows in his far left Socialist/Maxist ideas.

Chase   July 4th, 2008 5:33 pm ET

I was also one of Hilary's biggest supporters but I think its time to look at the big picture. Yes I agree that Obama tends to bounce around on certain things but reelecting the republicans back into the white house would be Economic Suicide for the US. How much longer can we allow the republicans to dump loads of money into things like war? We need to focus on economic stability and the fuel crisis. I think the key now is to support the democratic party and hope that something will change that may lead to a Obama / Clinton team. But either way don't let your party down. Vote Obama.

Peter of Oregon   July 4th, 2008 5:32 pm ET

I wouldn't really call them true Hillary Clinton supporters. They may voted for her in their state's primaries, but they don't support her, or the vision she shares with Barack Obama.

Propaganda   July 4th, 2008 5:32 pm ET

Run a propaganda campaign...manipulate the media... threaten the voters... denigrate your opponent... ridicule her supporters...

Yeah ... sure... partyloyalty before reason, conviction, principles.

AVEMBE The sun   July 4th, 2008 5:31 pm ET

HRC's fans who don't support Obama are racists .Period!!!!
When non sense is SO powerful the ONLY explanation understandable is RACISM!!!
Had HRC won the nomination all the obama's supporters would have back mrs HRC 'cause we all know that Mc CAIN=BUSH!!! plain and simple now
Why don't emphasize on HRC'S FANS WHO ACTUALLY SUPPORT Obama because thay have enough good sense to understand that you just CAN'T endorse bunch of people who just laugh when senator CLINTON is called a"b...tch"...You just can't endorse somebody who fiercefully FOUGHT Sen. CLINTON programs nd values knowing that Sen. OBAMA and Sen. CLINTON share nearly 99 pour cent of the same ideas...Not to support Obama is just RACISM...
Let me just thank all the women ,and the guyz White Latinos Native americans and Asian who supported Hrc before and now shift smartly to Obama because they just know that Mc CAIN= BUSH meaning more of your own kids husbands wives daughters and sons killed in this stupid Iraq war .Now PERIOD

Anthony   July 4th, 2008 5:31 pm ET

I can't believe the kind of hatred towards Obama that these Clinton surpoters have, he won the delicate count fair and square and did everything that he had to o win the nomination out right without treating and this is the hatred that they are displaying, reverend Write was right after all.

Belle2   July 4th, 2008 5:30 pm ET

I am one Democrat who will find it very hard to vote for Obama. So far, I have seen no evidence that he is qualified; he has no experience. He had only 18 months in the Senate before beginning to run for President; since beginning his campaign he has had time to stop by a few times to vote, but only when it was not likely to ever become a controversial vote.
He does not believe in anything, not even the church he attended for 20 years. Call me racist, not a real Democrat, ignorant, uneducated, or whatever; I see nothing to trust about Obama.

sad   July 4th, 2008 5:30 pm ET

Why are Hillary supporters acting like this? I love her too, but come on now! How can you in all sanity seriously think that voting for Mccain just to spite Obama would somehow benefit Hillary or prove some sort of "point"?? It's ludacris! Mccain stands for NONE of the things Hillary stands for. He doesnt care about women's rights, nor would he be kind to Hillary or offer her any sort of role in his administration of he were elected president. I don't see how some people think voting him is going to do them any good?? Why do you hate Obama so much anyways? His and Hillary's points of view are pretty much identical in alot of ways, and its not like she wont be a part of his administration and giving her 2 cents here and there. I just cant wrap my mind around some people's way of thinking. Makes absolutely no sense. Makes me think the fact that he is half BLACK is what is causing the uproar, I just dont see what else it could be.

justobserve   July 4th, 2008 5:30 pm ET

How horrible it is that a Democrat candidate just cared about her ambition at the expense of her party to go on and on with a race she knew unwinnable. The only thing that she could achieve by doing that is dividing her party and making the would harder to heal. Nevertheless, Obama has work to do and hopefully his drive for new voters will outnumber the lost voters who were not lean to vote Obama in any case. If it were someone else then surely they wouldn't hold the grudge too long against an individual for the party's sake. For voters who think Hillary doesn't flipflop, they didn't see the reality that made Obama the nominee. He didn't win if he doesn't have the character that the majority of voters can trust. For people who hope he has something in the closet to be discovered, they didn't see the reality that if he had, Hillary could have used it against him for the Republican already under the guise of "the Repub will do it anyway". The reality is tthe Clintons are the politicians with the most baggage in the history due to their characters. Hillary changed to be a "warm woman" is a chameleon to achieve a third term Clinton presidency. A leopard doesn't change its spots.

petrockfl   July 4th, 2008 5:30 pm ET

When Hill was forced to use her own money to continue the campaign , it was a gamble she chose . Obama will need all he can get for his campaign.
This will be a crazy election.
I would not be surprised if Repubs keep GW in the shadows during the convention if he shows up at all.

Juan, Texas   July 4th, 2008 5:29 pm ET

Hillary '12!

As a Hillary Clinton supporter I absolutely REFUSE to vote for Barack Obama. There is no way I'm voting for someone who was a "Junior" Senator. How can you Obama "supporters" not see through this? He wants change and all that jazz. His "Change" will cost our country Billions of dollars we don't have. He is a hypocritical man, and will do whatever it takes to get where he wants. I don't want that thank you. So, If you ask me who's the best candidate? Mr. McCain. and after that Hillary Clinton in '12.

Hillary or Bust!

JWR   July 4th, 2008 5:28 pm ET

Please stop with the threats and attempts to guilt voters who supported Clinton and do not support Obama.

This election is Obama's to win or lose, and if he can't bring Clinton supporters on board, it's his fault, no one else's.

Andrew Meyer   July 4th, 2008 5:27 pm ET

I think the whole idea of 'change' that Barack Obama once used as a political tactic has died off. He's a politician people....get over it. The point is, the ONLY way his campaign can really unite the party is one way...

Obama/Clinton 2008.

Obama camp, get over yourselves and deal with it. We're here, we're democratic, and that's the end of it. Seriously. If anyone in this process has been divisive, its been the Obama Campaign and Supporters. Mostly the supporters. But, i believe if we look at the real politics we will see we agree on more than disagree. So PUMA's and Obama Radicals, get off it..........

-A Real Democrat.

Don Colony14Author, Mt Prospect, IL   July 4th, 2008 5:25 pm ET

Of course Obama has to run from the far-left to the center in order to get enough votes to win in November – the Pelosi socialists were enough in the primaries, but they won't be enough in the general election. In doing so, of course, he moves closer to Clinton's positions. No wonder the Hillary supporters are angry! But don't worry, it's only temporary... if he wins the election, the very next day he'll quickly move farther left than he was when he announced his candidacy. (Once a dim-witted socialist, always a dim-witted socialist.)

So we've got a left-leaning Republican running against a far-left Democrat who (no surprise) has to pretend he's not extreme. By election day McCain and Obama may be indistinguishable!

Hollis   July 4th, 2008 5:25 pm ET

The irony is that these people never did support Hillary
to begin with. They wanted the novelty of a woman and now that they have been denied they act like spoiled chidren whose candy has been taken away. Even stranger, they are blaming everyone except the people actually resposible for her loss and that is herself and a very poor run campaign the first half of the primary.

ANGIE   July 4th, 2008 5:25 pm ET

so i guess they are going to be happy with the war in iraq not ending which hillary was for happy with the fact its a possibility we will be at war with iran and as far as healthcare well forget it with mccain in there he aint supporting hillarys healthcare and happy with the fact gas will be six dollars a gallon well they better pray they dont lose their job with mccain and nafta and free trade not to mention hillary will not accompilish anything with a mccain administration oh well hillary supporters choice is up too you good luck hope you think this through!!!!

Emma   July 4th, 2008 5:25 pm ET

Obama is sure not a liberal, and he is economically a free market Republican extremist who puts markets before the constitution and the citizens. Why do we democrats want to unite around the very thing we have experienced thae last 8 years? Obama wants market based health care. Exactly what we have now and is a failed system. He wants amnesty for the corporations involved in FISA just like the free market corporatist republicans. We democrats must lobby the delegates and super delegates to replace Obama with a populist democrat who believes in trade but not free trade, who will stop the outsourcing and privatization of our federal, and state governments.Faith-based groups don't pay taxes but public social workers do.

Dave, Illinois   July 4th, 2008 5:25 pm ET

I take this as a sign that there are still some adults in the Democrat party. Not everyone is stary eyed and woozy over a few pretty words muttered by an empty suit. To bad there aren't any Trumans or Roosevelts left to bring respect to that party.

Rudy F.   July 4th, 2008 5:23 pm ET

...I will never support Senator Obama! I intend to support the most qualified candidate remaining... Senator John McCain. Senator Clinton was my candidate and as she "lost" to a smooth talking "Yes Man" I am left to seperate from my party. Enjoy it DNC... you could have done something about it... but you didn't.

Ula Nejad- Sacramento Ca   July 4th, 2008 5:23 pm ET

Oh bummer! i guess what the Hillary supporters are really saying is
"bump this'

Nancy   July 4th, 2008 5:23 pm ET

People are starting to figure out what change Senator Obama is talking about. He keeps changing his positions all the time. He said one thing during the primary season and now another. We in Illinois are use to that. He will say that was then and this is now.

Senator Obama was elected an Illinois state senator in 1995. In less than 10 years he advanced to a U.S. Senator and now is the presumptive Democratic nominee for President of the United States.
Plus throw in his unsuccessful race for Congress in 2000. That is why he has such a successful campaign staff. While he was voting present or not voting at all, he was campaigning. That is where his experience lies, campaigns. He likes the chase, but appears he doesn't care for the jobs once elected. Just think, the people of Illinois elected him their U.S. Senator in 2005. After he was sworn into office in 2006 he promoted his books for a year and for the past two years he has been running for President after promising us he would complete his first term as our Senator. Where is his job experience?

Despite all the money he has and the stellar campaign staff he has, he isn't far ahead in the polls. Plus, put in John McCain's poorly run campaign. Senator Obama should be way ahead. But he isn't. This tells me people are not convinced he is capable of being our leader.
You can only get by on good speeches and words so much. Actions speak louder than words.

Sheanne   July 4th, 2008 5:23 pm ET

For all of you blinded-by-the-light of your Savior Obama, look beyond it and try to understand in your kool-aid trance, the HRC supporters are not Liberals who embrace flipping views of Obama and the Liberal direction with flaws.

They would rather NOT vote and let the Obamabots and the McSames strong followers battle it out. Obama's supporters claim that they don't need Clinton supporters for him to win the GE; here's your chance to prove it.

Stop the Clinton supporter bashing; it's soooo last month....

How do we count the votes?   July 4th, 2008 5:22 pm ET

Doesn't matter – the Republican Party still controls the voting machines.

Look up "Hacking Democracy" and "Diebold". Bush stole 2 elections using hacked voting machines, these were revealed in the last election, court battles were fought over it, and still nothing has changed.

Diebold corporation manufactures and controls over half the voting machines in America. Their CEO supported Bush was a Bush fundraiser, and is on public record as "guaranteeing" Bush the least election. They control the machines, and they will continue to support and elect the Republicans. No one has taken any steps to stop them, and now it is too late.

The votes don't matter, its who counts the votes that matters.

polls   July 4th, 2008 5:22 pm ET

america might be the greatest nation on earth , but americans are the dumbest on earth , proofed by voting last year and might do again by voting McCain. come on wake up this is not the time for ego , time to change

Jake   July 4th, 2008 5:22 pm ET

Reasons NOT to Vote for McCain Instead of Obama if You Were a Hillary Supporter:

1) If you throw this election to McCain, the OTHER half of the Democratic party will make sure Hillary Clinton gets nowhere near a presidential nomination ever again. I know, I know, it's hard for you to realize that there are other people who's votes should count equally to yours.

2) Perceived sexism from Barack Obama (though as someone on the Obama side, let me just say we felt equally pissed off at you), is not worth more dead young Americans. I do not think Hillary Clinton, or any candidate, is worth another American dying before his/her 20th birthday. But it's your call.

3) Hillary and Obama agreed on everything. Which is the funny part. The difference between their healthcare plan, Obama will make it cheap, Hillary will make it free. Now lets add McCain to this mix;

Hillary = Free
Obama = Cheap
McCain = Expensive

I can totally see why you're going to McCain.

And, in conclusion, I'm really getting sick of this superiority complex most of you are getting. So get some humility, look at the issues, and then answer the pollsters.

beverly   July 4th, 2008 5:22 pm ET

clinton supporters don't vote for obama, vote for mccain and when you get 4 more years of the same who will be hurting then. hillary said no matter who won the nomination the other would fight as hard as they could to make sure the democrates win the white house, hillary and bill are both hippocrites. if hillary plans to run for the presidency in next four or twelve years from now. ( REMEMBER WHAT GOES AROUND COME AROUND ).

Mery   July 4th, 2008 5:21 pm ET

Well, I would say if Hillary was a leader, then her followers would follow her ( meaning to vote for Obama). The fact that some of her supporters still live in coma shows me that this is not so much about Hillary and her leadership but about the fact that some still have a hard time to see a black guy as president .....in subconscious level .....as Hillary called it :)

Democratic Fundraiser   July 4th, 2008 5:21 pm ET

One more comment; after reading all of the above crap, I just couldn't stay silent. I spend 8 hours a day fundraising for Democrats. I do get paid an hourly wage; doesn't change the fact that I am still proud to be on the front lines. I can raise $5 dollars or $5,000 in an hour, and, my wage does not change. For those of you that say, "write in Hillary"; I say, that's ridiculous. For those of you that say, "vote for McCain", that's worse. And lastly, for those of you that say, "the media (or some other group) is at fault for Hillary's loss", I say, get real. Hillary was the more experienced of the two, had a huge opportunity to easily win, and the team she selected blew it. She hired a team of folks that ran a subpar campaign. Barak's team, on the other hand, ran a brilliant campaign. Stop questioning the leadership of Barak; looks as though he selected his people well; better than Hillary did. No way in heck Barak shoud have won our primary, but, he did. He may be inexperienced, but in hindsight, I'd rather have him selecting a supporting cast than Hillary....we've already seen who made the best choices. No one person can run a nation alone. The supporting cast runs the government, the President has the final say. As for Hillary being selected for VP – doesn't matter to me one way or another. She'd be great, although personally, I'd put her in the cabinet instead. Sec of State would be my choice. I'm voting Barak for the US and hoping Hillary for our World Affairs. Vote with me.

SMEARS/LIES WON'T WORK IN 2008 MY FRIENDS.   July 4th, 2008 5:21 pm ET

POLL THEM AGAIN ON NOVEMBER 5 AND ASK THEM " HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT BARACK OBAMA BEING THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA "WITHOUT YOUR VOTE".

NObama Democrat   July 4th, 2008 5:21 pm ET

Vote A Straight Democratic Ticket

Except for Obama. We can "Have our cake and eat it too".

A. When you vote in the November General Election leave the ballot for president blank, write in Hillary Clinton, or vote for Ralph Nader or McCain. It is your choice and it won't make any difference as long as you select all Democrats on the rest of the ballot.

B. Democrats will easily win the 2/3rd majority in the house and senate to block any McCain veto. It will even be fun watching McCain and the few Republican that will be left scream and cry while the Democrats end the war in Iraq, take back our country from the wealthy, fix the tax structures which are leaning toward the rich, and bring back good American jobs.

C. Than to top it off we will have the opportunity to elect a patriotic Democratic President in 2012

McCain will need congressional approval for near everything he does, and with a 2/3rd Democrat majority in the house and senate Democrats can over ride his vetos. That is why Democrats don't have to be concerned if McCain is elected. Then in 4 years we will be able to elect a patriotic Democrat as President.

Chris   July 4th, 2008 5:20 pm ET

"I wonder if the supporters who are not supporting the Democratic candidate, Obama, are really true Democrats.

When they voted for HRC did they really vote for her because of health care issues, and concern for the average citizen , and all of the other things she constantly talked about? Because if they did, then why are they wanting to now support McCain, who is the polar oppossite, or stay at home and not vote at all? This does not make sense, if they are truly issue driven then McCain is the wrong choice."

Shannon is exactly right!!!!! Wake up, Hillary and Obama are soooo close on all the big issues.

BARACK / SEBELIUS 08!

malabar   July 4th, 2008 5:20 pm ET

I am not a democrat. I did not vote for Al Gore. I did not vote for John Kerry. I am however a Hillary Clinton supporter, and I did vote for her in the primary. I will not vote for either of the other two candidates this fall because they are the same ol' thing even though some fools may think the younger one is different because of his packaging. HAHAHA!!! They're all politicians you morons.... self-centered, ego driven, hypocritical, politicians. I just liked that Hillary didn't act so self-righteous and spoke more than 4 words per minute.

ellington7   July 4th, 2008 5:19 pm ET

I'll put it like this...It's foolish for the media to still be talking about how bitter the clinton supporters are because the people who will decide who wins in nov. could care less. These people are part of the small % who wouldn't have voted anyway, probably 7 million people if you count clintons 18 million minus the ones who changed sides due to her nasty campaign, minus the 54% or 8.5 million that will support him. All I hear from these idiotic people is how obama cheated, and said so many horrible things about her, which is the biggest pile of bull the worlds ever seen. Never did he use the race card, or side with the media to run a sexist campaign, or lie on hillary, or bring up the unnumerable amount of scandals as a means to make her look as stupid as she is. You people are just as foolish as the candidate you supported. Hillary also had amnesia because she forgot every crummy thing she did to obama, and then tried to blame him for doing it to her. I for one am so happy that the primary B.S is over. We got the right candidate for the job and regardless of what you say, he will be that candidate, and he will win, so try to sabotage him because if you haven't noticed,obama knows what he's doing. He will move to the center, just like clinton would've, but she will never get the chance because she's a big fat loser. may she'll do well in the senate, but nothing beyond that...

Len, Colorado   July 4th, 2008 5:19 pm ET

Please read "katiec"....she is spot on!!!

Please all you republicans who are trying to divide our party pretending to be Dems.....It didn't work....keep listening to Limbaugh who is the biggest non-American in this country.

Marc PDX   July 4th, 2008 5:18 pm ET

Shhhhh! (I don't think Hillary is really embracing Obama either!)

big t , georgia   July 4th, 2008 5:18 pm ET

right now Obama is using hillary clinton to get those votes. the clinton supporters will come to their mind that they will vote democrat this november. John McCain knows he's gonna lose.

Peter of Oregon   July 4th, 2008 5:18 pm ET

PUMAs were probably never so much for Hillary Clinton and the vision she shared with Barack Obama as they were against Barack Obama.

Barbara   July 4th, 2008 5:18 pm ET

I bet lots of pro-Obama comments get lost. Mine did too.

jane in CA   July 4th, 2008 5:17 pm ET

Let's give them time to figure how to pay her debt first. They can stick with McSame if they chose to make Hillary debt's interests even bigger and hard to pay off after Obama gets elected this Nov.

Gold Canyon Gal, AZ   July 4th, 2008 5:17 pm ET

For a week or more, I've been reading about Obama's flip flops on various issues..I just got through reading his 'change' on what he sold to a younger, unwary voting bloc as his adamant support for a womans right to choose. He even managed to drag along Kate M and get an insultingly premature NARAL endorsement as a PRO CHOICE candidate...but it seems, not exactly so. Let me put these remarks out there "Obama style" ..."R v W is the law of the land...period...hard stop." No nuance, no exceptions, women have the right to PRIVACY and CHOICE in all matters regarding their reproductive life...you should have kept your opinions to yourself, Mr Obama.
I am not sulking...I know the issues that are critical me and my opinions have never followed the Republican line of reasoning...I will vote...I always vote...but I will not vote for Obama and I will never, ever register as a Dem again.

Marilyn   July 4th, 2008 5:16 pm ET

I am not especially a Hillary supporter, but I know I will NOT vote for Obama. Whether or not I vote for McCain depends on who his VP is. I don't expect McCain to survive a first term (too old and getting senile), so his VP choice is important. There is no way I would vote for him if Joe Lieberman is his VP choice. Same for Huckabee.

I would have voted for Hillary if she had been the nominee, but since the DNC and the media have annointed Obama, I will very likely just sit out this election for the first time in 35 years.

Tommy Hussein in St. Louis   July 4th, 2008 5:16 pm ET

Never again this intra-party hate July 4th, 2008 4:56 pm ET

The democratic party lost its way.

It drooled over the idea and marketed concept of an Obama.

They savaged Hillary, swiftboated her out of the race, and trashed and bashed their own base.

Insults and hate do NOT win over voters.

Obama thought he could smooth talk us back to him.
The DNC was counting on the Anti-Republican sentiment to bring us back to the party.
But we would rather sacrifice ONE election- than set the tone for future fixed primaries.

-----------------------------

Whatever. Keep in mind, your "insults and hate" statement cuts both ways.

NVH   July 4th, 2008 5:16 pm ET

Oh please none of the candidates have EXPERIENCE for the job. The only person that could claim job experience would be a current president running for re-election. All this Hillary talk If you love her so much help her pay off her debt. If you are voting for Mccain JUST DO IT! but stop pretending it's about lack of experience.

cb   July 4th, 2008 5:16 pm ET

comments closed on Obama giving speech at Broncos football stadium so I'm putting it here. ARE THEIR NO LIMITS TO NOBAMA'S EGO? IT IS TOTALLY SURREAL. HAS HE NO SHAME? PEOPLE ARE DOWN AND OUT RIGHT NOW AND HE WANTS TO GLORIFY HIMSELF FROM ON HIGH SPEAKING TO 75,000 PEOPLE? HE DOES SEEM TO PERCEIVE HIMSELF AS THE MESSIAH. But Jesus Christ was a humble man who did not seek to glorify himself. I am actually disgusted right now. Enough already.

Bradley   July 4th, 2008 5:15 pm ET

I believe Obama will do good in getting this country back on its feet! McCain is just another 4 years of Bush waiting to happen. We need to start getting the Iraq conflict under control and start pulling out! McCain will not do this. We will just get deeper and deeper into trouble.(If that is possible after having the Bush Adm.)

Michele Hussein, Oregon   July 4th, 2008 5:15 pm ET

"A nightingale sings..." sounds a lot like "songbird McCain".

Rutherford "Hussien" Hayes   July 4th, 2008 5:14 pm ET

We as a country need to grow up.

In retrospect it seems that country was not at all ready for the 1st african american and the 1st woman to compete for the presidency at the same time.

Tavis Smilley was fond of saying that

"someone would win"

the historic Democratic primary and

"someone would lose"

and that the supporters of each candidate needed to be prepared for that. Clearly there is some work to do.

It seems that it doesn't matter who the opponent was, SOME Clinton supporters are demonstrating that they felt she had this thing wrapped up before it started.

Max   July 4th, 2008 5:14 pm ET

And why am I still being moderated while ppl who commented after me have already been posted??

Bradley   July 4th, 2008 5:13 pm ET

McCain is just another 4 years of Bush waiting to happen!! What we need to do is get the conflict in Iraq under control and gently start pulling out. McCain will not do that!! I believe Obama will bring good change to America and its people. I believe he can get us back on our feet.

newbies hate the oldie voters   July 4th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

Apologize to Hillary for the bias, the unfairness, the hatred, the insults, the disrespect, the sexism, the mocking, the jeering, the ridiculing and the slanted media coverage...

Then we may reconsider.

I love you more NOW than EVER before, Hill.

You rock.

You will always have my vote.

No other democrat will get my vote again... until the party restores its own integrity, principles and ideals.

kenny cole   July 4th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

Any one who think because hillary is not the nominee he or she is not going to vote or vote for mccain is simlpe STUPID and seriuosly "INSANE"

Steffen in Merced, CA   July 4th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

I wonder where the majority of these Hillary supporters for McCain live. I bet they live in states that would probably go red anyway, like Texas and Tennessee.

Obama 2009-2017

Michele Hussein, Oregon   July 4th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

One more thing: Happy July 4th everyone!!!!!! We are so blessed!

Obama '08!

Craig   July 4th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

It appears to me the thought these people have is that if they help McCain win, then Queen Hillary the First will win in 2012. How wrong and misguided can they be? What they are failing to realize is that if this happens, and they sabotage this election, they will set women back and we won't have a woman president for the next 100 years. There is no way that any of the Obama supporters would ever vote for her in 2012, and with this kind of an emotional upheaval we are all going to be suspicious of ANY woman running again. Is this what all you bitter women want? If you really aren't concerned with the ecomomy, war(s), fuel costs, womens rights (the equal pay amendment he has always opposed), Roe v Wade, education, healthcare, our standing in the world or the possibility of any woman EVER being a contender again, then please keep up your temper tantrum and vote for McCain. Doesn't really matter to me as I am financially independent and can ride out another 4 years of this republican insanity, can you? And on top of that, wait till you see the insane amount of money that will be contributed to her contender in her next senate race. I know I will contribute the maximum to any Democratic opponent she draws, and should she win the primary I will then contribute the max to her Republican opponent. Is this what you emotional, bitter women want?

You know, I have heard enough of how much of a meany Obama was to the Queen in the primary. From what I remember, it was the Clinton camp that was shooting all of the arrows. Somebody PLEASE give us an instance of where his campain played dirty with her. The fact of the matter is that this election was hers to lose. She had every advantage known to mankind going in, but her campains arrogance and sense of entitlement sunk her. She probably ran the most flawed campain ever and her loss falls squarely on HER shoulders. The primary rules didn't seem to be a problem when Bill won using the SAME EXACT RULES that were in place this election cycle, TWICE. So how were the rules unfair for her when they were just peachy for Bill?

People, this is not a game. This is serious business that directly affects the future of OUR country. McCains policies are a carbon copy of dubyas and look where that has gotten us. It's time for all of us to grow up, act like adults, put our tempor tantrums behind us and DO THE RIGHT THING FOR AMERICA. Our future depends on it. And this is coming from a former Clinton supporter who donated the max to her primary campain and voted for her in Florida. I have grown up and moved on. Now the questions is, will you?

Jake   July 4th, 2008 5:11 pm ET

I just want every Hillary Clinton supporter who opposes this war to know, if you vote against Barack Obama because you feel he has "wronged" Hillary, you share the responsibility for every American soldier we lose during John McCain's presidency.

It's time to wake up, grow up, and look at the big picture. On issues, you are with Obama. On the war, on the economy, on social issues, on judges, on EVERYTHING, you are with Obama, or at least far closer to Obama than McCain. This is the problem with our democracy. We continue to vote based on suspicions and emotions rather than on issues, and on the future of our country.

So everyone who says they would rather vote for McCain, think really, really hard about whether Obama's perceived "meanness" towards Hillary is really worth more dead Americans.

alice1970   July 4th, 2008 5:11 pm ET

Obama is an unqualified senator who has no regard for women. As a woman I am sick and tired of voting for all male presidential tickets. I cannot vote for Barack. He is backed by the ethanol lobby (bad for greenhouse gases). He flip flopped on public financing and FISA.
And these Obama supporters expect me to vote for such a weak candidate. He is seriously flawed and so is the democratic party.
Give me Hillary or give me McCain.

jimbo   July 4th, 2008 5:10 pm ET

Many of us Clinton supporters cannot and will not accept this empty suit as our candidate. He flips on everything and his campaign keeps bringing up the race issue to try to make people feel bad who disagree with or question him. We still cannot ignore the terrorists and racists and crinminals that surround him and no amount of pretty speeches will ever over come that. Although we dont really care for McCain we will accept him and a Democratic Congress to rein him in for 4 years. Also we feel safer with him. We will never feel safe with Obama and his Pro-palestinian buddies. Clinton was treated terribly by the public and the media throughout her campaign. she deserved alot more respect that she was given. We will vote overwhelmingly for her in 2012. Obama may be forced to pick her as he watches his popularity decline before the convention. Only then would we ever consider voting for him. Without Clinton he will NEVER GET OUR VOTES !!!

jay   July 4th, 2008 5:10 pm ET

Is there anyone out there who can prove to me that any democrat that doesn't back barack is a not racist. Speak up if you are a black democrat that isn't voting for barack.

P.U.M.A   July 4th, 2008 5:10 pm ET

HILLARY IS THE CHAMPION.

The DNC, the Obamas and the Obama campaign need to give a public apology for the disrespect, hatred, bigotry they showed BOTH Clintons.

Choke on your stolen victory.

Former OBAMA Supporter   July 4th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

Those who support OBAMA -buyers remorse is quietly growing...

Do your research!

Wake up before it is too late.

McCain 2008
NADER 2008
BARR 2008

Michele Hussein, Oregon   July 4th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

If Hillary had won the nomination, I would have had a hard time at first to come around to vote for her so understand some of the sentiments. Funny, I still feel that SHE had run the more negative campaign, etc., so it is all perspective as there were things on BOTH sides. (By the way, Barack was not brushing Hillary off of his shoulder. It had to do with the ABC debate that took 45 minutes to get to any substantive questions. He was brushing that off....)

In the end, I would have voted for Hillary hoping for the enactment of their oh so similar platforms. Just because you think McCain steady, think about what he is steady towards......

Many, many people voted for Hillary based upon Bill Clinton's term in the White House. My own 80 year old mother never watched a debate, but because of the 90's automatically went Hillary's direction as she thought she was tough under adversity, but knew very little about Barack. She is now supporting Barack.

She knows that when one ceiling is broken, as is the case for Obama, we rejoice because that reflects possibility for change for our own. Obama and Clinton supporters should be rejoicing together just for this fact alone, no matter what ceiling was shattered first.

I do not believe this poll. It will change after the convention.

Dems come home and unite !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sandy - PA   July 4th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

The Clintons lost. She will not be his VP – get over it.

If this election proved one thing, it is that America despises the Clintons.
1) She did not get "18 million votes." Millions of those votes came from Republican voters, because McCain locked up the nomination early. These voters were egged on to vote for Clinton by Republican "leaders" like Rush Limbaugh, and his so called "Operation Chaos." Republican voters were trying to swing the Democratic primary to the candidate they thought McCain would have an easier time beating – and that was Clinton. Millions of her votes came from Republicans who were not Clinton Supporters, and were never going to be. Those were not votes she was going to get it in the general election.
2) Obama is black, and countless people, especially inthe Southern states, voted for Clinton solely because they did not want a blackman in the White House.

So there was no sexism, and there was no bias against "the woman". If anything, Clinton got help from the Republicans and the racist Democrats, and Obama still beat her. That speaks volumes about him, and about how much people flat can't stand the Clintons anymore.

But I'm sure the Clinton supporters still can't see the facts.

Ian M   July 4th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

These supports of her's are making me sexist. 9 out of 10 are women, you know it. Most are simply Republicans who wanted a woman to win. They don't really agree with her on the issues.

Dan   July 4th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

As a Clinton supporter, I do not support Obama because of his inexperience, his wishy-washy attitude, indecisiveness, and the fact that he seems to shape his opinions, usually after changing them several times, when they don't poll well. He comes off as weak, and even if Clinton is his VP choice, I'm gonna vote for someone else.

And FYI, I am an independent who was voting for Clinton, not a democrat.

Joe Regis   July 4th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

What they care about are going to be better serve by Bob barr or Mcain.

They should support Bob Barr or McCain.

Sally in Cali   July 4th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

If McCain wins, they can embrace something else and kiss it good-bye.

These are the people who are responsible for the 2nd Bush term. I hope they will be happy when America becomes a 3rd world.

Cynthia   July 4th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

If they are Democrats that should embrace him because he is more in line with what Senator Clinton stands for. If Senator Clinton had won the Obama supporters would have been behind her 100%. I don't get the problem. As the Democratic nominee he has to pick someone who he can trust, somone who is more in tune with his call for change instead of old politics and someone who will bring something to be table in the areas where he may not be an expert in.

AnnaCatherine   July 4th, 2008 5:08 pm ET

I wouldn't mind having her back in the race. Obama is not a flip flopper. I wish people would call it what it is. Lying. He said what he had to say to beat Clinton, not because he meant it. Now he sings another tune. I don't want faith based anything. The Iraq war is a tragedy. Americans are losing jobs and homes. What else has to be wrong? Well, it certainly is 'change'. For him, not for us. When his new attitude impacts his stockpile of money he may wish to reconsider. If he wants to blow his own chances he's allowed to do that. But he shouldn't blow mine. At a time when public opinion of politicians is lower than ever he just broght it down several more notches. Thanks Obama.

judd   July 4th, 2008 5:08 pm ET

Obama writes in Dreams of my Father:
"My speeches with pretty words don't make it so, I give them because I like the applause, it gives me a cheap thrill, that's all."

There was never change to believe in. He just wanted to hear the applause and feel the love because he needed the love as he lacks self love and that is why he abused drugs.

Now he is addicted to the approval and attention of the public.

Hillary Clinton, tested through trying times and survived and becoming even stronger, vetted in many ways, proven progressive with 35 year record successfully advocating for our country is the reason why Hillary's people will not waiver from their position.

This election cannot be based on data from the past. There has been extreme divides and distrusts created within the Democratic Party that has never happened before as this was history and the leaders engaged in terrible exlusionary rigging of the election.
The divides are racial and gender and socieconomic.

The healing will not happen and the Democrats have suck their ship.

Their only salvation is to make Hillary the nominee as she carried the traditional and most stable Democratic party base.

family   July 4th, 2008 5:08 pm ET

Geez...
ya think?

Hate
Bias
Lies
Corruption
unfair tactics
race baiting
insults

Sure, after rape and abuse lets keep it all in the family.

Dave   July 4th, 2008 5:08 pm ET

I'm tired of all this talk of "flip flop." All of the presidential candidates, indeed all people, have changed their positions from time to time. There is no basis to claim that O'bama has done so more than McCain or Clinton. Would that Bush would have "flip flopped" on his war strategy a couple of years earlier. The nation would be better for it. Would that McCain would "flip flop" on his unconditional support of the doctrine of preemptive war. It would show his capacity to learn and be a better leader. Perhaps if Hillary had "flip flopped" on her vote for the war, she would be the Democratic candidate right now, but her refusal to do so did not reflect well on her judgment. I want a leader who thinks, who reacts to different changing conditions, who learns from mistakes, who listens to what Americans are saying and occasionally changes his mind.

Nancy in Berkeley   July 4th, 2008 5:07 pm ET

Lack of support for Obama has everything to do with Obama being a weak choice for presumptive nominee. It is becoming increasingly obvious that he is unable to hold a strong position and fight for it – look at recent 'changes' on abortion rights, handgun control, wiretapping, and Iraq. If Clinton is not on the ticket, and if she does not win on the floor of the convention, my vote will go to Cynthia McKinney in the Green Party, because I cannot in good conscience support such an ill-prepared candidate.

kkvh4026   July 4th, 2008 5:07 pm ET

It's not just Cinton supporters. Ralph Nader supporters don't embrace Obama either and our movement is growing online even if you block us out of national coverage.

NormK   July 4th, 2008 5:06 pm ET

God help this country if Hillary supporters stay home or vote for McCain.

JWR   July 4th, 2008 5:06 pm ET

I think it's interesting that the story is phrases as 'not following her lead', insinuating that her leadership–or lack thereof– is the reason these grown-up thinking voters have decided they cannot support Obama. As an alternate reason for their lack of support, could it be that he's reversed his position on a half dozen issues in the last two weeks?

I was an Obama supporter after Clinton lost, but I don't like at all his 'move to the center'. I'm suspicious of his motives. So I'm back in the 'undecided' column.

Another stray thought: Could it be that the media's anti-Clinton campaign until Obama selects someone else as running mate?

axt113   July 4th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

Hillary supporters are mentally children

MP, Seattle   July 4th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

Wow, what a bunch of useless cry-babies. Get over it.

chevyk   July 4th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

I really dont care, i just want to watch all their basic rights get stripped away by McCain, if Obama does not Win the General election (impossible in my opinion if people actually vote based on the issues instead of trivial matters and their racial bias) I believe Obama will have the right to Blame Hillary and her supporters for his loss, 1. she stayed in too long, 2. I dont believe shes giving this "lets support obama thing" 100%.

Hillary Supporters need to Get in touch! THEY are out of TOuch! a poll released a few months ago showed that MORE OBAMA SUPPORTERS WOULD SUPPORT HILLARY IF SHE LoST THEN HILLARY SUPPORTERS SUPPORTING OBAMA! I wonder why? its not like in every exit poll obama supporters have a college degree and can actually put 1 +2 together! WE WANT DEmOCRAT IN oFFICE!

OBAMA -HAGEL 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No longer for Obama   July 4th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

Once I would have voted for Obama were he the nominee of the party.

But not after the hate, insults, vulgar behavior I witnessed in this primary.

John, Brooklyn, New York   July 4th, 2008 5:03 pm ET

The Clinton fans need to get over themselves and get on the bus – or they will be left behind. Clinton Democrats are CERTAINLY not going to have their political agenda forwarded by a McCain administration – and, if elected (long shot) McCain will be going out of his way to provide political favors to his Republican base – not Hillary's fans.

One of the biggest myth in American politics is that the "Reagan Democrats" were served at ALL by Reagan or his ilk. Instead, Democrats of ALL stripes were left out in the cold. McCain will do the same.

The Democratic Party AS A WHOLE has decided on its nominee. The Clinton fans can either get with the message or, frankly, miss the wave of change and increased political power that the Democrats will no-doubt have in Washington this fall – with or without them.

Oregon   July 4th, 2008 5:03 pm ET

Two reasons: (1) racism of elderly blue collar Democrats, and (2) entitlement mentality of white feminists.

I Loved it   July 4th, 2008 5:03 pm ET

I just can't understand why?

I loved watching the race card being played to secure Obama an early advantage.

I loved watching the good and gracious lady being raped everynight on TV by Obama, the Obama campaign, his hateful and loud pundits, and his vile and vulgar youth cult.

I loved the biased media coverage and the slanted in favor of Obama debate formats.

I loved hearing all the vulgar filth- ignorant, stupid, redneck, inbred cousins, moronic dirty white trailor trash- talk.

I loved the democratic party and the DNC turning on HRC and her supporters and driving her out of the race.

Ilona   July 4th, 2008 5:01 pm ET

Sweet ladies Hillary supporters. Remember that McCain voted against equal women's pay, you will be traitors of your own sex. Someone mentioned draft here. Hell yes, it can come if McCain is in the White House and you will send your precious sons straight to death to Iran, or Iraq or wherever he decides to start wars. I have always been against military people in the White House, it's too dangerous and especialy the hotheaded senator. Go back to Arizona where you belong.

nick, houston   July 4th, 2008 5:01 pm ET

DEMOCRAT OR NOT A DEMOCRAT.

I can't wait til the supreme court changes to overrule Roe v. Wade. I can't wait to see all the Democrats crying and then trying to explain why they didn't vote.

Y'all are dumb, dumb people.

bob   July 4th, 2008 5:01 pm ET

well. do you think the african-american community is going to support her in the future????

TH   July 4th, 2008 5:00 pm ET

Obama needs to ask Hilary to be vice president. If not, many of her supporters myself included will stay home this November. I see McCain as a continuation of Bush and therefore could never votre for him either.

Mainstream America   July 4th, 2008 4:59 pm ET

America will get the President it deserves: After Bush and Cheney (bravo!), why not McCain and Dan Quail?

All we need is cheap gas, guns, and the Bible. Makes us a strong nation before God. Wow! Can't wait for off-shore drilling and more execution!

I am oh so patriotic! I have a button, sure, sure!

mario   July 4th, 2008 4:59 pm ET

come on. ms. clinton. do something.

Kristy   July 4th, 2008 4:58 pm ET

The Obama lovers are so ignorant. He won by a Bush/Gore margin. Don't take it as a mandate. Quit telling those that supported Hillary that we are rascist, white, older voters. There are many who don't believe that he has the experience. John McCain didn't go far in the military because he didn't play the political game! He could have written his own ticket. He's so respected by both sides of the game, and he's the only republican that I've thought of voting for. The media can pimp Obama as much as they want, but don't for a second think that the rest of the world respects youth over age. The rest of the world isn't as "Hollywood" as the US is in respecting the leaders.

Obomaites get real, he needs all of the "Old School" that he seemed to have railed against in his "Change" campaign. It's so obvious to anyone around for a while that you've been played by his speeches. If you think he'll win, without getting Clinton backing, you're deluding yourselves. It doesn't help that McCain was briefed on the Brilliant Plan to release the hostages held by FARC. That was a definite slam to Obama, intentional or not.

Jim   July 4th, 2008 4:58 pm ET

The key word CNN is they say they "MAY STAY HOME". Unless you show how the questions were asked your poll is worthless. The fact is you like to keep things stirred up. How many of Huckabees supporters are staying home instead of voting for McCain or did you not bother to poll that question.

jacob durbin   July 4th, 2008 4:58 pm ET

lets do the math. even as things stand now with only 50 percent of clinton suporters saying they will suport obma, obma had more votes in the primarys than were in the whole republican party, as of january..he has about150% more votes in the polls than miccain, also,with bob barr taking a chunk of votes from the republicans, oboma has as good as won.

aware   July 4th, 2008 4:57 pm ET

Good! :)

Obama is an arrogant do and say whatever it takes to win guy with no moral center. He is a two-faced double-speak guy with a macro view that totally conflicts with his micro view and is certainly not a leader Americans can trust! :(

Hillary was the best candidate for 08 but bucks, Democratic left-wing burocrats, obfuscating politics/Obama and manipulating media scoundrels selected Obama.

So, I will vote for McCain. Obama is beginning to sound more like him every day but then he prevaricates!

Gwin   July 4th, 2008 4:56 pm ET

Not voting simply because your ultimate candidate didn't win is a travesty. Is that really what you want to show the children (future voters) watching? "If you can't get what you want, through a fit and try to throw an election by not participating at all?" …Why not try forming an opinion on "true" issues and vote for one of the remaining candidates that won fair and square?....

Anonymous   July 4th, 2008 4:56 pm ET

This is one Hillary supporter who will not vote for Obama; I urge everyone who doesnt vote for him to do a write in vote; maybe we can send another message; I for one will never support Obama-especially since he has flip flopped so many times; he is campaigning on a totally different platform than he did in the primaries; who knows who the real Obama is-he cannot be trusted; which Obama will rule the world if he is elected?
WRITE IN HILLARY CLINTON!!!!

Never again this intra-party hate   July 4th, 2008 4:56 pm ET

The democratic party lost its way.

It drooled over the idea and marketed concept of an Obama.

They savaged Hillary, swiftboated her out of the race, and trashed and bashed their own base.

Insults and hate do NOT win over voters.

Obama thought he could smooth talk us back to him.
The DNC was counting on the Anti-Republican sentiment to bring us back to the party.
But we would rather sacrifice ONE election- than set the tone for future fixed primaries.

Democratic Fundraiser   July 4th, 2008 4:56 pm ET

Change is part of being human. If Barak changes positions, such as the public funds issue, he has a right to do just that. Afterall, why would you spend roughly $25 million on sending back $200 million in contributions, so you can have $84 million to spend on your campaign (oops, excuse me, that would be $59 million because you spent more than a fourth of it refunding those that have supported you). Hillary folks, stop the BS. You're mad that Hillary didn't get the nod. Well, so am I, but, I'm not so mad that I'll settle for McCain. I won't disrespect myself, voting for a candidate that is totally opposite of what mine stood for. Barak and Hillary had differences; the differences were on approach, not idealistic. Basically, they stand for the same goals, same ideas, same hopes. Thank goodness though, more Hillary supporters are starting to heal and realizing that the most important thing is the direction our country has been going under Republican leadership. If you like the direction our country is going; vote McCain. If you don't; vote Barak Obama. By the way, staying home is the same as voting for McCain. Republicans will be at the polls in full force; we should be too!

Helen   July 4th, 2008 4:55 pm ET

I wanted Hillary to be our nominee. However, she did not get it and all you Democrats who won't vote for Obama deserve to go through hell if McCain gets in. STOP ACTING CHILDISH AND VOTE FOR OBAMA. HE IS AFTER ALL A DEMOCRAT AND HILLARY SUPPORTS HIM.

Mary   July 4th, 2008 4:54 pm ET

This has nothing to do with Hillary supporters not wanting to vote for Obama. It's the fact that Obama has reversed his message that won him the nomination, and has now gone so far to the right in trying to win the votes of moderates and centrists, that if he continues along this path, come November, Obama will be a Republican! If I want a moderate Republican, then I might as well vote for McCain. At least he has a voting record that proves he is a centrist.

I think I will not vote for anyone who refuses to lift the oil drilling ban. America needs to produce it's own energy and not have to rely on hostile nations. The economy is the major issue in this election. As far as Iraq goes, we should pull out and let them have their civil war. Other nations did not prevent us from having ours.

John   July 4th, 2008 4:54 pm ET

Am a Clinton supporter, it doesn't make sense to vote for Mccain because Hillary did not win the primary. Am a true democrat and remain democrat. For the sake of this country I will have to cast my vote for Obama. Eveything about Mccain is what I dont go along with. As a true democrat Obama is the man at the moment.

Stephen   July 4th, 2008 4:53 pm ET

Look, Obama hasn't flip-flopped. People who really evaluated his position on, say, gun-control or the extreme conditions for abortions would have found ALL ALONG that he was fairly moderate. He just didn't talk about those things in the primaries.

It was the conservatives who branded him a hard-core leftist (all that "Most liberal member of the Senate" nonsense they make up for every Democratic Senator who runs for President). He was always a reasonable moderate with a progressive bent– and he said during the campaign that he would be "careful getting out of Iraq" and listen to the leaders on the ground.

for fair play   July 4th, 2008 4:53 pm ET

We are now united in the effort to defeat Obama.

He does not get rewarded for trashing, bashing and destroying the best candidate.

He does not get rewarded for lying, cheating, hating, and stealing.

The travesty of justice ends here.

Sorry newbies but vile, filthy vulgar attacks on fellow democrats and on other democratic candidates will not work to secure nominations.

We believe in respect, equality and fair play.

Tim   July 4th, 2008 4:53 pm ET

Anyone who is still bitter from the primary is childish if they can't accept that Hilary didn't win. I tell all of you grow up if you want the country to continue to be in a pointless war or to have the right to choose disappear then keep on what you are doing.

Woman for GOP VP   July 4th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

Yahoo! And the trend will continue, inexorably. Obama said all the right things at all the right times during the primary fight to sway far-left liberals and superdelegates. On the national stage, he realizes that such talk is rubbish and will cost the Democrats the election and systematically changes all of his strident views. Hillary, the stabilizing force has been disenfranchised. In the final act, McCain will announce a strong VP candidate, either Palin or Romney and the curtains will come down on the Democratic Party. Thank you, Howard Dean. You have run this almost as well as your own bid for presidency.

Allen from Hartwell, GA   July 4th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

Steve July 4th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

Where is the comment I just posted seconds ago? Didn't it even make it to the "being moderated" no-man's land?

Happened to me too Steve, and I had written a fantastic comment. I figure I used too many "key" words that the "spell checker" didn't like.

Jamaican   July 4th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

I was always sceptical of that guy Obama, he is too much a sweet-talker and has no substance. Everyday blasting Change change, yes we can. Of course we can! Everything Hillary said in the campaign she stood by her words, judgement and made realistic strategic positions to what Americans now face.

Hillary supporters are not only thinking about their choices but will always refuse anyone who does not meet the standards set; experience is not a factor here.

I am a Hillary supporter and I would vote for McCain and not a straight flip-flopper, who has no substance but rhetorics. Is the media now portraying the real OBAMA?

katiec   July 4th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

As a 71 year old woman I have been a supporter of Womens
Rights from day one. We have come a long way but still have
a way to go. McCain has voted against every bill that would
help equalization. He supports a war that may take the
life of your loved one. (And, if he and Bush get involved in
attacking Iran, you can bet on it,) He, with his "experience",
has participated in almost ruining our country. (He has
supported 95% of Bush's policies.) And, in your process of
voting for McCain or not at all, please explain to your
children, grandchildren and great grandchildren how
dedicated you are to the republican cause and the
republican ways. Tell them you agree with the policies
that have caused them burdens that will last for
decades.
But, do not ever claim to be a Democrat.

GERALD STROTHER   July 4th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

GO AND STAY HOME IF YOU WONT 4 YR OF THE SAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU CAN BET I DONT !GO OBAMA!!!

Susan from Scotts Valley, CA   July 4th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

Thank you Jere. I totally agree. People remember – some of those posing as Hillary supporters and some of those posing as Obama supporters are Republicans – not all but probably many. They have the most to gain by Dem on Dem anger.

And New Dems – I'm inspired by Obama but have never flung any insults at HRC or her supporters. And for all of you who say I've drunk the KoolAid or that I see him as a Messiah, whatever. I won't change your mind. I just believed/believe he is the better candidate. We have different opinions. We all see this campaign differently and we see what we apparently want to see. I can name the divisive things that came out of the Clinton campaign, that are being used against Obama today but what is the point?

We have a choice. Four more years of a Republican presidency and what that means or a CHANCE for something different, for someone who is almost completely in-line with HRC's policies.

And if you think electing McCain will ensure HRC as Presidency in 2012, you may want to reconsider. There are A LOT of people that will blame her and her angry and (yes) bitter supporters for Obama's loss and those people who will be poorer, who will be sicker, who will have lost more sons and daughers in Iraq and Afghanistan will not forget.

Bob   July 4th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

Again, Politics 101 states that an individual should in the Presidential general election vote for the candidate who most depicts his or her values, policies, and position. A vote by Hillary supporters for McCain or a no vote essentially strikes against the policies and positions advocated by Hillary and will in essence result in four more years of Bush policies which makes no sense to us who want the Iraq war ended, universal health insurance, and an improved economy. Let's vote our intellect and not our emotions.

Tommy Hussein in St. Louis   July 4th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

Steve July 4th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

Where is the comment I just posted seconds ago? Didn't it even make it to the "being moderated" no-man's land?

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Steve, this happens to me sometimes too. I think the Ticker has a bug. :)

Karlo Hernandez   July 4th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

I waited to vote for Hillary for years and I will never forget what this guy did to our country. I hate him and I will never vote for him.

I voted for Clinton and I'm voting for McCain.

Hillary "08 forever.

Vote McCain!!

NVH   July 4th, 2008 4:50 pm ET

Well we can thank Hill and Bill for this. All those lies they told about everything under the sun like winning the popular vote, when the election wasn't about the popular vote it was about DELEGATES and people believing it. How can people be so gullible. Democrates might not get the White House back in November thanks to the Clintons

fixed for Obama   July 4th, 2008 4:50 pm ET

Obama destroyed the democratic party- with his race baiting, his cheating, his lies and finally by stealing the nomination.

Hate will come back to haunt you.

The DNC allowed Obama and black democrats to demand that he be the nominee- and they trashed and savaged HRC just to do it.

I will not encourage those tactics. If they work this time, they will be used again in the future.

Stop hijacking the democratic party. Return to fair politics.

Willy   July 4th, 2008 4:50 pm ET

Obama and the DNC shafted Hillary Clinton for votes in 2008. They could care less about leadership. BHO will be a puppet if erected to the white house. McCain 08 all the way for me now!

Len, Colorado   July 4th, 2008 4:49 pm ET

Ken, you are spot on! If some Hillary supporters do not want to back Obama that is fine. I was a Clinton supporter but I am voting for Obama. Have we forgotten what has happened the last eight years under Republican rule....
If you vote for McCain, it is your responsibility to make sure your sons/daughters/grandchildren enlist in the military.

We need change and vote Democratic!!!

KateyGreen   July 4th, 2008 4:49 pm ET

Obama was a fraud. Look at how he has changed his position on withdrawing from Iraq. Look at his new position on FISA. Look at his new found support of the death penalty. If Obama had made these positions known during the primaries, Hillary would be the nominee. I feel defauded by Obama. P.U.M.A.

Marie   July 4th, 2008 4:47 pm ET

Vote for McCain or stay at home. Don't continue to talk about, do it. So if Obama doesn't win, you will get what you deserve, a third year term of Bush. I as am Obama supporter can't and won't vote for HRC in 2012 or 3012. I will never forget what she has done to try and distroy this man. She like Jesse Helms is truely evil.

Ike   July 4th, 2008 4:47 pm ET

Honestly HRC supporters, when will ANY responsibility of her losing the primary fall on her shoulders? It's the media, it's the DNC, it's Obama. How about the fact that she bought into the stratgey she would have the primary wrapped up by Super Tuesday and spent money like it was no tomarrow. How about the fact that she had so much bickering among her campaign team that she had to fire, move around, and replace key people. If she had it all together, all the experience, etc. Why is she in the position she is right now. Will any one of you PLEASE own up to your own transgressions.

Allen from Hartwell, GA   July 4th, 2008 4:47 pm ET

I am a white middle-aged Southern male, and I want something better for me, my family, and my country. I thought this election was about electing a better president, not about electing Senator Clinton or Senator Obama. If Senator Obama is the Democratic nominee he will get my vote and the votes of anyone who listens to me.

DA   July 4th, 2008 4:46 pm ET

I think everyone is so over the HRC supporters crap that the GOP and the media is spinning for this elections. It's over she didn't win and he did and if they really want another 4 years of the same thing then so be it and let it be on their shoulders!!! But those tired GOP and media spin folks need to go sit down some where and shut up!!!

Josh   July 4th, 2008 4:45 pm ET

Hillary supporters (well the ones to claim to be one here) must be forgetting the last year and a half.

First, Obama was selected still by more than Clinton. If you had re-elections in CA, and other states they have already switched there votes. that 18 million is not 18millionstop fooling yourselfs.

second-any Women that voted for Clinton and now wants to vote for McCain better realize real fast that there is a great possibilty that 3 justices get appointed and two of them are the liberal ones. If McCain wins then you must be ready to loose any abortion bills, and anything else women choice stands for!

thrid-Flip-floping? LMAO, you guys really just flow with the media, after screamng murder after 8month of media bias towards your canidadte before the media realize she COULDN'T WIN! but thats another issue. McCain has not stayed with one issue at all. Every issue he has flopped on except the fact that he attack a foreign officals and called his Ex a B*&^% numerous times.

Last but not lease, Hillary Supporters for months Called us Delusinonal, wrong, Obama hateful, and all these name calling without evidence. also you Tell me one thing wrong with what rev. wright say and ill show you a non-christian! Everything his said was "If america does NOT help the poor then god D*&^ America" everyone should agree on that!

Triatomic Tortoise   July 4th, 2008 4:45 pm ET

There are too many haters in American god-soaked politics. That is what is surfacing.

robert   July 4th, 2008 4:45 pm ET

An ex democrate who will be voting for Mr Mccain. Obama is changind the Democratic party for the worst. If we can't win the whitehouse this year it won't happen for another 20 years. God help us.

sharon thomason   July 4th, 2008 4:45 pm ET

DEAR SIR,

I AM SAD TO HEAR THAT SOME OF HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTERS WILL NOT EVEN VOTE IN NOVEMBER. IT IS BETTER TO GET OUT THERE AND VOTE AND LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD.
WHAT GOOD IS IT GOING TO DO SITTING HOME?
PEOPLE SAY THEY WANT CHANGE BUT DO THEY REALLY KNOW WHAT KIND OF CHANGE THEY WANT?
I AM VOTING FOR SENATOR MCCAIN. HE HAS THE EXPERIENCE, LEADERSHIP AND I AM GIVING HIM A CHANCE BY VOTING FOR HIM.
THANK YOU.

SMEARS/LIES WON'T WORK IN 2008 MY FRIENDS.   July 4th, 2008 4:44 pm ET

WHO CARES!!! WITHOUT OR WITHOUT THEIR VOTE, BARACK OBAMA WILL WIN NOVEMBER 4. LET'S GO BARACK. THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

Peter Damoah-Afari   July 4th, 2008 4:44 pm ET

They can go to hell or hang themselves............

enomisa   July 4th, 2008 4:44 pm ET

Why would we after the blatent disrespect that was shown to Hillary- and to many of her lower income supporters?

I make $115 K and have two college degrees, and live in a very progressive small town of 10,000 people in NM. I have guns and a conscience and a conviction to democratic principles and ideals. I voted for the BEST candidate out there- HRC.

I was turned off by the vile, filthy hatred that Obama and his campaign threw at Hillary. I was offended by the denigration and belittling of poor white working people by the Obama supporters.

Like I have done for 35 years of voting, I now stand in solidarity with HRC and all her supporters. We are democrats and we do not cut and dice (or DISS) our own. We do not cheat, bully or threaten others so that we can steal elections. We do not play the race card against fellow democrats simply because they support the BETTER, more qualified candidate. We do not allow celebrities and the media to pick our nominee for us.

Shame on all the new democrats for the campaign of hate and division that they waged...just to have the nominee they demanded to be installed, BE installed.

David Snyder   July 4th, 2008 4:44 pm ET

What is interesting is the sense of loyalty to an individual rather than to an ideal.

I am a Clinton supporter, yet to vote for McCain just because she did not clinch the nomination would directly support the ideals I initially voted against. Acting like this is acting like we live in a socialist state, or a dictatorship.

This is a Democracy, so lets band together for an ideal rather than any one individual.

kkvh4026   July 4th, 2008 4:44 pm ET

Why don't you ever talk about Ralph Nader and his supporters. Hillary is out of the race, Ron Paul (although he's great) is out of the race. Obama & McCain are not the only candidates in the race. Michelle Obama gets more coverage than nader, Kucinich, Gravel, Paul, Barr and Baldwin got collectively.

You say that Nader can't be in the debate unless he gets 15% in the polls with no national coverage, yet yoour polls only have Obama & McCain as an option as a loop hole to still exclude him. We're not a minority but a silenced majority of supporters, and there is no way Paul, Kucinich, Nader, Gravel supporters who have all experinced this unfair treatment are going to sit quitly and watch it hapen again.

Allow Nader in the Presidential debates. Stop fixing the elections .

ao   July 4th, 2008 4:44 pm ET

he has what he deserves. i still wait to hear him change his position about health care and adopt Edwards/Hillary/TRULY PROGRESSIVE PLAN where EVERYONE is INSURED. For those of you claiming 15,000,000 people is an insignificant difference in their plans, I say SHAME ON YOU, SHAME ON YOU, SHAME ON YOU, SHAME ON YOU!!!!! Yeah the war is tragic loss of life and treasure all right, but 5000 heroes who died in service they came forward to be in is NOT even close to the number of the people within this 15,000,000 that will die, suffer, or lose everything including their torn marriages and hungry kids because someone does not have the audacity to get things right – THE FIRST TIME around. I'm sick of being bullied to vote for lesser evil – I vote my conscious and until he changes his position about health care I WILL NOT vote for him. I have 15,000,000 reasons for it. Would you people take responsibility for the lives of these 15,000,000 people by casting your vote?

Tito   July 4th, 2008 4:43 pm ET

I will not support a candidate whom has no resume to speak of and has lied to the Amercian public. He should state his real intentions on what he plans to do with this country. The fact that he used his pit bull retired Gen Wesley to question McCain war status was a low blow, what else will Obama do to be President. I would have voted for Senator Clinton but my vote will go to Senator Mc Cain. Also, every one whom I know that was going to vote for Senator Clinton will be voting for Mc Cain. So, Mr. Obama keep up the good work and teh Republican will stay in the White House. Oh, did I forget to mention that I am a Democrat. What a bummer...

Farrell, Houston, Tx   July 4th, 2008 4:43 pm ET

PEOPLE WHO DON'T VOTE ARE ALWAYS THE ONES THAT COMPLAIN. DON'T VOTE, THEN YOU HAVE NO COMPLAINT, SIMPLE.

Steve in Austin, TX   July 4th, 2008 4:41 pm ET

S0 22 percent of her supporters will sit out the election and not vote since she's not the one? What a bunch of airheads ! Apparantly they knew nothing, and cared nothing about the issues and what the Democratic party is trying to do for our country. They apparantly just think it would be "cool" to have a woman for president, and to hell with America if not. I think those people need to go live somewhere else.

Tony   July 4th, 2008 4:41 pm ET

I can't believe Clinton supporters are still crying! Wah, wah, wah...get over yourselves. The primary is over, Hilary lost Time to move on and get behind the next president of the United States...Barack Obama!

Kiki   July 4th, 2008 4:41 pm ET

Let Obama lose like a mad dog!

Amy, Ca   July 4th, 2008 4:40 pm ET

Clinton's supporters obviously have some hidden agenda (ie racism) for not wanting to vote for Obama, because there is not that much difference in where they stand on the ISSUES. If McBush gets the Pres it just means an extension of the same, & more CONSERVATIVE supreme ct. judges, roe v wade probable over-turned & rich get richer & the poor get more poor & troops stay in Iraq maybe for 100 years. No thanks McShame/McCan't/McBush. Not This Time. Obama for Pres 08

saga4obama   July 4th, 2008 4:40 pm ET

Hills Obama...im Obama...shes Obama...hes Obama..their Obama...wouldn't you like to be Obama too?
stop disrespecting Hill, your country, and yourselves...set your ego to the side
stand together...we have a lot of work to do.
dumpmccain.com
WHY WONT JOHN RELEASE HIS MILITARY RECORDS? WHATS THERE TO HIDE?

Max   July 4th, 2008 4:39 pm ET

And this is another scum deliberately made up ticker by Bill Schneider
and his group to sabotage Obama's chance to the presidency. They are terribly uneasy about a black president

Marty Pacino   July 4th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

Keep voting for people with the middle name Hussien. Keep voting for people who refused to serve our country in the military. Keep voting for someone who abused drugs throughout his teens and mid 20's. Go ahead run our country in the ground casue most of you want that anyways.

dennis from chicago   July 4th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

being similar to clinton is not good enough O BAMA HAS NO EXPERIENCE.....all i see is nobama back stepping covering up his mistates.. afraid to debate mc cain and avoiding the real issues of how he is going to create this magical word [ puff the magical dragon] he calls change clinton 2012

Tommy Hussein in St. Louis   July 4th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

new dems July 4th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

blah blah blah

Appeasing those threatening to walk if Obama was not selected.

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I think you and others like you are just mad because you have been threatening to "walk" to McCain if Hillary was not selected, and no one has been bothering to appease you.

NG in DC   July 4th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

Obama/Cinton 08 or NoBama 08 for me. Plain and simple.

obama will win georgia   July 4th, 2008 4:36 pm ET

why would cnn and others focus on such drivel? obama is leading in almost every reputable poll, yet they insist on digging up this kind of irrelevant garbage. how about doing a pole on how many former huckabee supporters will back mccain. the poles would probably show the same trend. when bush won the whitehouse in 2000, there were no poles that constantly asked how many former mccain supporters were going to support bush.

after having contributed to the high level of vitriol between the two camps, the media is now desperately trying to keep it going simply for ratings and to make the race closer than it should be. constantly pouring salt in wounds is just making things worse than they have to be. before tim russert died, he made a statement that he hoped the media would end their obsession with irrelevant minutia and focus on the issues. honor his memory and try to focus on the issues. report the news, don't "make it up"

stop reporting everytime obama sneezes or what michelle wears. stop telling us how evangelicals won't support mccain. the majority of them will and that is without question. stop harping on how hillary supporters won't support obama. the reality is that most of them do. when u report that 22 percent of them don't, that is a MINORITY of her supporters. hillary's debt is not an issue of national importance, nor is cindy's wealth or michelle's patriotism. focus on healthcare, the economy, national security, energy policies, global warming, etc.

we are at war and on the verge of a global recession/depression. let's not screw this election up by making people focus on gay marriages or patriotism.

Robert   July 4th, 2008 4:36 pm ET

Stubborn, absolutely stubborn.

Billy   July 4th, 2008 4:36 pm ET

To all those Hillary supporters thinking of not voting or voting for McCain.

Enjoy Roe v Wade being overturned.

ex-clintonian   July 4th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

This is why Hillary did not get the nomination because she is evil and vindictive and you people are like many peas in the same pod. You scream about fair play yet offer none your self. You are a bunch of old vindictive evil women and remember turn about is fair play. Had Hillary gottne the nomination there would have been millions more of us who would not be voting for her and you would all be crying foul.
You gotta give it to get it.

saga4obama   July 4th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

OH AMERIKKKA, HITLER AND THE OTHERS...HAPPY 4TH MAY GOD BLESS YOU...YOU NEED ALLL THE HELP YOU CAN GET.

Daniel   July 4th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

We are already independents and we will vote for John McCain.
Barack Obama is not a good man and he does not deserve to be my president.

Pearl   July 4th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

I have to shake my head when I read some of these comments:

"He (Obama) debased her (Hillary) at every turn."

"He was selected and not elected.... This was an unfair situation and if it is not fixed to allow Clinton to be the nominee, then I will not support the DNC's choice...."

Honestly, it sounds as if these people were watching an entirely different set of primaries than I watched.

But the bottom line is that anyone who ever cared a LICK about Hillary and her vision for this country had better get on board with Obama. Because refusing to vote, writing in HRC, voting for Nader or Barr–all that would amount to a vote for McCain, and a McCain administration would be ANTI-woman, ANTI-universal health care, ANTI-good jobs, PRO-war and PRO-oil cartel. WAKE UP, PUMAcrats.

Paul   July 4th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

Clinton supporter....like clinton herself.........are irrelevant.....period.

Lawrence R. Decoste   July 4th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

I am a clinton supporter I am all for OBAMA 08 whooooooo

I don't want John Mccain in our white house

Jayne   July 4th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

Please tell B Schneider that Hillary didn't say the 'stakes are too high for Democrats to sulk.' I did support Hillary because while I liked Obama, his inexperience required a huge leap of faith, even blindness. And the more I got to know Hillary, the more I liked, respected and trusted her to be our next president.

Barack's recent changes on public financing, NAFTA, FISA, gun control (to name but a few) just further amplify his lack of core principles. Combine this with his inexperience and we have someone who just isn't ready to be president. What a shame. We missed a great opportunity.

Obama for President   July 4th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

Hmmm...

"He doesn't deserve our vote!"
"It was taken away from us!"
"She deserved to win!"
"The media was sexist!" ... shall I go on?

With these people it's all about them and not the country.

How patriotic!!

Get a life! This is about our lives and the lives of generations to come. Hillary and Bill will be just fine in their mansions and millions, but what about the rest of us!?

Henry in Portland, Oregon   July 4th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

I'm sure how to comment on Mr. Obama since he has set guidlines how he wants to be reference, reguardless of free speech, so-Mr. Obama what is it I can say that will entice a fruitful egagement of ideas. Lastly from my own experince sometimes the best fruit come from the worst origins of topics........

Karen in Cape Cod   July 4th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

Hillary supporters don't stay home! Write her name in...thats what I am going to do!

Toni   July 4th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

I didnt expect that they would

They'd rather look stupid and go for the complete opposite side of the fence because they are salty.

McCain constantly messes up each day, and they still support him. Not because of his stance or his ability to be the president, but because they are mad

flagship, North Carolina   July 4th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

I agree 100%....
If Obama can't see the handwriting on the wall and select Hillary as his VP —he deserves the defeat that will follow.

suz   July 4th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

Never liked Obama, never will. This is especially true now that it is painfully obvious he lied about his (or anyone's) ability to get us out of Iraq quickly. He knew it would be impossible to accomplish this task quickly, as he led voters to believe. Now that he has the nomination, he's having to get closer to the truth. Never voted for Obama, never will.

John   July 4th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

It is clear obama only has one choice! HILLARY FOR VP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Or else, say hello to president mccain

Heath, Bronx, NY   July 4th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

I am sorry that you feel the way you do. We must move this country forward in a positive direction. We will make history. I can only hope that you will be on the right side when it is written.

LUIS BARRETO   July 4th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

ALL DEMOCRATATS, LEFT AND RIGHT INCLUDING OTHERS UPSETS, ARE CLEAR THAT DISAGREE MESSAGE, CAN NOT BE MASK WITH OBAMA ADDRESS.THEY STILL SAYING THAT VP IS THE ONLY SOLUTION POSSIBLE. INVOLVEMENT AND PARTICIPATION IS NOT PINPOINT TO SUCCEED.//////

JonRoss   July 4th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

So heartbreaking. The Clintonistas and Obamites flailing on each other. The Stalinist vs the Marxist. Such a tough decision.

Chula   July 4th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

If the Democrats TRULY WANT TO WIN this election then Obama should pick Hillary as his VP and TRULY unite the party.

If Obama does not pick Hillary it shows that Obama's ego and self interest are more important to him than the Democratic party.

By the way to all those Clinton haters who say Obama would not be able to control Clinton......all we have to say is, if Obama is scared and has issues dealing with a strong woman then he has no business running this Nation!

Vig   July 4th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

On this Independence Day, we say, FREE HILLARY CLINTON!!!! Her nomination was hijacked by the media and Hillary is a true patriot. Obama's new found patriotism is opportunistic. BRING HILLARY BACK. HILLARY IS A POLITICAL PRISION SILENCED BY THE MEDIA.

Kathy in Oregon   July 4th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

During the democratic primaries, I voted for Clinton because my only two options were Clinton or Obama. I would have gladly voted for Edwards, Biden, or even Richardson.... ANY candidate who I feel is QUALIFIED to be the POTUS.

I don't view Obama as experienced enough to be running our country. And I'm turned off by the fact that his"rock star" candidacy changed the dymamics of the nominating race - and eliminated ALL the Dems I was willing to vote for this year.

Sorry Obamabots - voting for your guy was never in the cards for me.

It's NOT about Hillary - it's the fact that Obama is a WEAK nominee!!

I will stay home or vote for another party.

Phantom of the Oprah   July 4th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

Hillary won although she was disadvantaged every step of the way... but Obama was installed.

We true democrats will not accept this coup by the DNC, the black leaders, the media and celebrities.

Obama is not qualified- being African American is NOT a qualification for the office of the president.

Neither race NOR Gender should have mattered.

Victor in Saanich, B.C. Canada   July 4th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

Gee, it doesn't have anything to do with RACISM does it??
NAHH, these are DEMOCRATS after all [nudge, nudge - wink, wink!!!].

Jere   July 4th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

new dems.

I'm sorry, but you must have existed in an alternate universe for the last several months. Pretending that Obama ran the more negative campaign is delusional. Accusing Obama of being the one doing the race baiting is demented (hello? Ferrarro? Bill's comment about Jessie Jackson? He's not a Muslim. . .as far as I know?)

There are very credible things to criticize Obama on, but you do your "side" no favors when you fly off into fantasy land.

bk   July 4th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

Barb
You are right about people having died for voting. Obama won the election in Chicago supressing votes. He also turned down a revote in Florida and Michigan. I don't see how anyone could vote for a person that does not care about voters rights. I guess his cult thinks anything he does is ok.

Phantom of the Oprah   July 4th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

Stealing is not winning.

Oprah, Caroline, Maria, the Kerrys, Ted, Dean. Pelosi and the media selected and installed this unqualified and inexperienced candidate.

The people voted but had their votes and voices discounted.

We will not forget this treachery.

We will not encourage these hateful, divisive, sexist, bogoted tactics by NOW voting for Obama just because he is the only Democrat left standing.

Freedom, justice, equality and fair campaigns... fair play on a level field, respect... all these things matter more than party unity for a NOV win.

charles   July 4th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

give us a break please. you are still at it. whats yr point are you capaigning for mcCain or what. how is this helpful to peoples lives. pathetic.

mitchell hussein martin   July 4th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

duh,the clintons turned this contest into a racial slugfest,that some white people will never get over.they want their queen no matter what.

RJ, CA   July 4th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

As a former ardent Hillary supporter, I'm now voting for McCain, but not because I'm somehow "pouting" - and I resent that insinuation.

During the primaries I did not vote for Obama because I knew little about him. Now that I know a LOT about him, I'm even more convinced not to vote for him. Hillary is a centrist Democrat. McCain is a centrist Republican, and both have extensive experience in government.

Obama is too liberal for me, not to mention that he doesn't have the resume or experience to be president - 18 mos. in the U.S. Senate? Give me a break!

And even if Hillary is on the ticket as #2, that means Obama would still be #1, and that means I'll still vote for McCain. Period.

zorba   July 4th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

As a woman who supported Hillary, I am disappointed and ashamed of her supporters who say they will stay home. It reinforces the negative stereotype of women as being hysterical, histrionic and overly emotional, rather than rational, strategic and sensible. Go ahead and cut of your noses to spite your faces, but leave my nose alone!

dar   July 4th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

Those of us who are having difficulty switching to Sen Obama are having difficulty because we do not feel Hillary was treated by the Democratic National Party (superdelegates endorsed before primaries were complete) momentum was created because of them. Media was mesmerized by Obama and totally unfair to Clinton. Republicans who hate her filled the blogs, Rush Limbaugh pulled his dirty tricks by having Republicans vote in Democratic primaries. And still she received more popular votes than Obama. We have been through the popular vote vs representative votes before and apparently learned nothing. Voting for Obama isn't the only problem Democrats have. We are so angry that many of us will register as "independents". This has nothing, nothing, nothing, to do with Sen Obama's race! This was another plunder: using the race card against the Clintons.

KC   July 4th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

Who cares?

Concerned Voter   July 4th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

This is America and everyone has the right to vote for the person they feel is best qualified. If Clinton supports do not feel Obama is that person, then that is their right. Obama supporters must feel he is in need of the Clinton's supportors votes since they try to keep pushing him down their throats. Come November, we all will get the opportunity to cast our votes and it will be for the one we feel is best qualified.

Rusty, Portland   July 4th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

RIGHT ON!!!!! Obama is going down like the Titanic.

ZIUS   July 4th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

PUMA = OPERATION CHAOS = IDIOTS......WE WILL NOT FALL FOR SAME SMEAR TACTICS ..AGAIN .....DEMOCRATS 08

laurie, michigan   July 4th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

Well, all I can say is I don't believe it. Clinton supporters are not stupid and they sure wouldn't put John McCain in the White House by voting for him or staying home and not voting and taking a chance. I just don't buy it.

win   July 4th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

Those Clinton supporters will regret staying home. That action on their part will only result in another four yours of the failed policies of Bush. If they want to continue acting like kids who have had their candy taken away from them, so be it. Clinton lost. Period. It is more about the Democratic Party and the future of this country. I suppose that explains why Obama is courting those young evangelicans and some older Republicans. He knows he cannot put all his trust in those Clinton supporters who continue to balk.

ES NYC   July 4th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

It's the independent voters that matters in this election !

S. Boatman Warrensburg Mo.   July 4th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

Clinton Lost Because She Didnt Know How To Run A Campaign! She Didnt Have Enough Experience! Most Of Her Supporters Back Obama Even Though A Few Of Them Will Say All The Millions Of Them Are Now Voting For Mccain! The Majority Of Democrat Women Are Not Dumb Enough To Vote For Mccain.

Still for Hill but now ONLY for Hill   July 4th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

The vitriolic hatred shown to HRC and all her supporters...by Obama, his supporters and the media drove us life long democrats out of the party.

We do not believe in trashing, bashing and denigrating other democrats.

Obama used race as a shield against criticism and as a sword to carve up HRC.

It was a shameful display of DISunity by the candidate peddling hope and change.

Obama strong-armed and cheated at caucus.

Obama mocked and jeered HRC: Annie Oakley antics and brushing her off his shoulders.

Obama was selected, not elected. All those who opposed him were silenced, ridiculed, mocked, attacked and threatened. Look at the Black members of congress, look at poor blue collar folks, look at the elderly, look at the female supporters.

Steve, San Antonio   July 4th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

Hillary and Barack are extremely close on nearly every political issue of substance. Neither of them is even close to McCain, although the way he has been flip-flopping from maverick to Bush clone recently, he may wind up mimicking the Democrats by the time the election rolls around in November. For former Hillary supporters to not vote – or vote for Bush III – is self-destructive, pathological behavior, and will dishonor Mrs. Clinton's own political agenda for the next four years.

Roost in Filth   July 4th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

You know, all you PUMA, PAC, HIllary idiots...I hope you do stay home on Nov 4th. Then when Barack wins I will be able to laugh at all you that didn't support him. There will be no room on the bandwagon, so don't try to jump on.

If he loses....well, that's even more to laugh at. You go ahead and stay home or vote for McCain. Then when your husband or son dies in Iraq I will laugh. When you get pregnant and can't afford to have it (even for adoption) I will laugh. You are setting yourselves up to roost in filth for 4 years...but hey, at least you are standing strong with Hillary right?

Wait...she lost. Standing strong with her has about as much value as a penny with a hole in it, or a space heater in hell. Enjoy your bad choice, I know I will.

ken   July 4th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

I am so sick of hearing about Hillary and her supporters, this is old old news, if they aren't going to vote for him thats there business and honestly he is doing fine without them. Lets stop making this MSM News and focus on the issues and whats important.

new dems   July 4th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

We do not care for the direction the new democratic party is taking:
Obama was a divisive brand of "uniter".

Using a strategy of Hating, insulting, mocking and denigrating fellow democrats just to drive the best candidate from the race.

Race baiting and race card playing by Obama- to paint Bill and Hill and all their supporters as racists.

People being inspired by Obama to vile, vulgar, filthy insults of HRC and her supporters ( Bro before Ho etc.)

Obama mocking and jeering and insulting HRC.

Obama twisting all HRCs positions and hammering her on her platform which he has now claimed as his own.

Swiftboating your own best candidate.

Installing a nominee JUST because he is (half) black.

Appeasing those threatening to walk if Obama was not selected.

Ryan   July 4th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

I don't get peoples basis of argument on Obama flip flopping, I mean it is politics half the things politicians say wont happen anyways.. I mean get off this flip flopping argument are people not allowed to change their minds?? Seriously..

McCain=the draft   July 4th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

If Obama loses, Hillary will be blamed for dividing the party, and that will be the end for her as well. Forget about 2012.
I hope Hillary supporters are helping her pay her debts.

Steve   July 4th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

Where is the comment I just posted seconds ago? Didn't it even make it to the "being moderated" no-man's land?

MIKE   July 4th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

If this poll is correct – then CNN should explain how every National Poll shows Obama leading. where are those voters coming from?? are there a whole bunch of Republicans out there who won't vote for McSame and are switching to Obama???
Polls in July mean nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

frank   July 4th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

texas hispanics for mccain

JohnLee   July 4th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

My candidate didn't win either. I'm not an Obama supporter but if people put their heads up their backsides and stay home or vote for McBush, than they truly don't care about what happens to their country or the supreme court nominees or the IRaq War or the econonmy. Come on people. I know you love Hillary but this is about something bigger than Hillary or my candidate that didn't win as well!

Andrew   July 4th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

Obama is going down cz his not steady more tax when oil is at 146$ who ever comes its not going to be the same again so go for the steady guy at 70 + McCain is the man

Jere   July 4th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

susie, frank, Marc, it would be helpful, if you really ARE Hillary supporters, that you didn't just regurgitate Republican talking points. The DNC did not treat the voters terribly, susie. The DNC made the best out of a bad situation. By any rational metric, Obama lead. By any rational metric, Hillary ran the more negative campaign (As was her right. Politics is tough business.) As far as flip flops go, frank, all politicians, and Obama is a politician, flip flop. At least Obama has the decency to explain his flip flops to us in detail, thereby treating us like adults. McCain, on the other hand, tries to pretend that he ALWAYS supported Bush's tax cuts or that he ALWAYS thought the Iraq war was going to take a long time and countless dollars or that he ALWAYS held whatever position he's switching on today. Finally, Marc, your name calling certainly doesn't make it seem as if YOU are the adult. Hmmm, just a thought.

Sammy   July 4th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

As soon as they are told they will be Democratic outcasts and pariahs if they dont vote then they will do it. This would never happen but Hillary should say more than that she will be very disappointed and saddened if her 16 million supporters stay home or vote for McCain. Then say a non-voter is a vote for a Bush 3rd term.... and possibly a 4th. Also say that every soldier that dies after that Obama's admittedly optimistic 16-month plan is their fault... and the blood is on their hands.

mk   July 4th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

What's the alternative to Obama? Four more years of Bush's broken policies with McSame? Re-poll Dems after they return from vacation with outrageous gas bills to an 'iffy' job situation, housing depreciation, and their retirement savings whittled away by ridiculous – if any- work done by Bush and Congress to build our country.

Susan   July 4th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

And it's all thanks to Obama's charming supporters.

DM, Arlington TX   July 4th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

Let it all said, the choice we have before us is very clear senator John McCain take credit for the New GI Bill when he voted against it.
The President threaten to veto it but once he seen there was enough votes to override the threaten veto he signed it.

Let help to change America for the better and pray for Obama and McCain.

Obama 08

McCain Senior Center inducteee

Liz   July 4th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

I agree with Clinton's supporters as I am also one of them. There is no way I will ever support Obama as the nominee. He was selected and not elected and therefore he should not representing the majority of the voters who voted for Clinton. This was an unfair situation and if it is not fixed to allow Clinton to be the nominee, then I will not support the DNC's choice. I am sure there are alot of democrats out there who also feel this way and I would suggest that if we do vote, we should write Clinton's name on the ballot or not vote at all. This will teach the DNC not to play with our votes as the majority of us voted for Clinton.

To Marc PDX   July 4th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

Really? "Adults" supported Hillary and only kiddies support Obama? Why was it the case then that the only age group she won convincingly over obama was the 65+ age group? By your definition, anyone under 65 is a kid. Hmmm – wonder what else might characterize the 65+ crowd in their decision not to back Obama?

Regardless, TRUE democrats, TRUE hillary supporters and TRUE patriots will show up to vote for obama over mccain after the last 7 years. Those who don't care more about their foolish pride than our image around the world, deaths of our soldiers and civilians in Iraq and the economy. Sounds real mature and thoughtful to me.

not important   July 4th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

I wonder why? Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger said in 1969 that they were going to bring an "honorable end" to the Vietnam war. John McCain is saying the samething about the Iraq war in 2008. Ask Hillary. She and Bill didn"t like the Vietnam war. So why do their supporters like the Iraq war?

Reminder...Clinton came in THIRD in Iowa!   July 4th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

Clinton thought she was a shoo in, just because of her husband. She lost fair and square and that is what this election is about. The Supreme Court stole the 2000 election from the Democrats.

If the DNC had changed the rules to appease Clinton, and stole the nomination from Obama, it would have been a slap in the face of all Obama's supporters.

But, it's a free country and if they still want to cry they can, and I can say..

PUMA can KMA!!

THE O   July 4th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

PUMA = PUNKS UNDER MINING AMERICA

Paula Hussein MacK   July 4th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

Hillary supporters now voting for McCain.. every soldier that dies after November 4th is on your head. Please make sure you all send your precious children off to Iraq to support your John McCain. I think McCain will bring the draft back so let's hope you Hillary supporters have your kids front row center.
Your country is in tatters.. your candidate lost.. grow up you sound like ignorant spoiled brats.
Just because you loved Hillary , there are millions who couldn't stick her so get a grip. Women's rights???? What woman would ever want to send her babies into a immoral war??

saga4obama   July 4th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

OUR CHILDRENS LIVES SHOULD MEAN MORE TO YOU THAN YOUR PRIDE

Tom   July 4th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

they/you could vote for Bob Bar.

Barb   July 4th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

More and more reason why we should all be Independent voters. Vote for the person and not for the party.

Unless you really do not care who becomes our next president by staying home you will have 4 years of not having the right to complain. You did not take the opportunity that many have died for (VOTING). Even if it is a matter of voting for the lessor of the evils you have fullfilled the right that many in this world do not have.

Don't believe me–go and live in a number of country's thru out the world and then come back. Oh what a beautfiul sight it is.

gerry   July 4th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

THese are not democratic voters-they're republican who voted for Clinton to stop Obama. It's not surprising they'll stay home instead of hovotinh for Grandpa McCain.

Nik, Florida   July 4th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

"it's clear Clinton supporters remain wary of supporting the man who beat her"

A fraud who illegitimately beat her using MSM to brainwash the Americam people. Where's the hope and change in a liar? Whats even sadder is that Obama's supporters continue to see him as the Messiah. Ever seen Elmer Gantry? Talk about a typical politician.

H. Thompson   July 4th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

Given that their stance on the major issues was/is almost identical, there is only one reason why HRC's white old ladies club will stay at home: sadly, it is racism.
Obama08

Jay   July 4th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

Who cares? Obama is doing FINE without most of these PUMA thugs. He has done everything to reach out to these thugs, but they turn their noses up and act as though he's the one who is being cold to them. I say good riddance. Most of her supporters are just bitter feminists, poor whites who don't want to vote for a black person, and hot/cold Democrats. I'm so sick of all this attention lavished on these people. Obama has an election to run, and if these people want to vote for McCain or stay at home, let them do it. There are millions of new voters who have replaced them and will support Senator Obama.

virginiastewart   July 4th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

Don't stay away from the polls in November. That will not hurt Obama, nor keep him from being elected. Vote for someone else! That way he will know that he did not get a mandate to do as he !@#$ well pleases. Arrogant men should no longer be allowed to win elections.

Barb   July 4th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

it is obvious that those Clinton's supports do not care about the issues, they only voted for her because they wanted to see a woman in the White House. Put it this way, they won't be missed as they are the % that would not vote anyways. You always have a % in every election that stays home, they will continue to stay home because they did not get their way having a woman on the ballot. Her supporters that will vote for Obama are sensible people that really cares about the issues and although they too wanted a woman in the White House, they understand that staying home could put McCain in the White House and what would happen to the issues they care about.

Annie, Canada   July 4th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

Why should they? He has flip flopped on most issues that won him the nomination over her and now he wants their support ? Seems he is too busy running to the middle and changing his positions to worry about the rest of the democrats he needs.

Sam NC   July 4th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

Oh please Bill Clinton was the reason the Republicans invented the flip flop mantra...Thats the problem with the last 8 years...we cannot make changes based on the sistuation . The fact that the guy at the top wants us out of Iraq is all that is needed. But you just can't wave your hand it will be done....the same would have be true if it was Hillary and they would be saying the same thing. Its time to get on the Obama train and have a change in Washington.

Ron- democrat turned independent via HILLARY then obama   July 4th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

hey rob maybe it's because he doesn't make his wife plunge the - out of the toilet or take out the trash. hell he even likes his wife the way she is.that give you a clue sweety

THE O   July 4th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

First of all I am tired of seeing these polls, Secondly if they want to vote for mcain then they should it's there vote. But if mcain wins the white house then they have noone but them selves to blame. 100 years in Iraq, roe V wade over turned, more job losses, deeper debt to china, and a new war with Iran. It's your vote do the right thing!!!!

BARACK THE VOTE!!!!!!!!!

BARACK / SEBELIUS 08

browntown   July 4th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

those idiotic clinton supporters can keep on with their revengeful attitudes toward obama but that won't do anything to curtail the conditions that are important to all americans. the real fact is that the republicans namely the bush adminstration has gotten rich on the backs of americans. i would be a little more empathetic if it wasn't for the fact that the second time around many americans voted for the foolishness to continue so please enjoy the chicken s**t from the chickens coming home to roost.

A nightingale Sings in Berkley Square   July 4th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

I am a Hillary supporter and will never go to the cotton candy speaker. He offers no substance but flip flopping.

He brings about change ok, his own change and he seems to be a serial changer.

He also throws his family under the bus.

He will tax and spend our money and will attract a whole new generation of welfare queens.

Shannon   July 4th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

I wonder if the supporters who are not supporting the Democratic candidate, Obama, are really true Democrats.

When they voted for HRC did they really vote for her because of health care issues, and concern for the average citizen , and all of the other things she constantly talked about? Because if they did, then why are they wanting to now support McCain, who is the polar oppossite, or stay at home and not vote at all? This does not make sense, if they are truly issue driven then McCain is the wrong choice.

Ron- democrat turned independent via HILLARY then obama   July 4th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

how can you blame us the man ridiculed her debased her every chance he got and now being the hypocrite that he is he tells every one how great she is to the point maybe even his supporters are having doubts as to who should be the nominee. Hillary may have to take this for political reason but we don't. talk about a major flip flop

Leah DiMarco, Texas   July 4th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

The newest Rasmussen poll shows:

New York: McCain vs. Obama
Obama 60, McCain 29
Obama +31.0

It is time for the media to focus on something other than Clinton and her supporters. Obama will win HUGE in New York!

S. Boatman Warrensburg Mo.   July 4th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

Obama Is The Best Person For The Job!

Steve, AZ   July 4th, 2008 4:09 pm ET

If Obama can't see the handwriting on the wall and select Hillary as his VP -he deserves the defeat that will follow.

Rob   July 4th, 2008 4:08 pm ET

what I find odd is why a woman would vote for McBush.. Their giving up hard earned rights- – Rowe V Wade will be gone. I'm sorry , but thats just stupid. Bush Has infringed on our rights –so why would they just give over more. So when you've lost them don't cry–you won't get them back anytime soon

John   July 4th, 2008 4:07 pm ET

Shame on Obama!! He should be ashamed of himself and his campain he has run, trashing the Clinton's for weeks in the media. Obaam smiple don't have the job skills need to run our dying Nation. Most Americans think Obama would start more Wars then end them. We will vote for Mr. McCain to make our Country a better place for everyone to live.

george from PA   July 4th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

they were not going to vote for him anyway. they would rather stay unemployed, without health care, in trouble with their morgages, have highe taxes than be an adult and face thet their candidate did not win and vote for john mccain. to say they will not vote for him when his polices are more similiar to Clinton's than mccain shows they hold grudges or were not going to vote for him anyway.

earl gardena, ca   July 4th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

well, well, well.. PUMA all the way!

yns   July 4th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

You are absolutely right ~ I am not! Finally a poll that has it correct! There is NO WAY I can consciously vote for Barack Hussein Obama.

He lacks the judgement to run this country! If I thought he would be the best candidate, I would have voted for him in the first place.

His true colors are starting to appear. I just hope the citizens of this country are not too late in realizing it!

Corey, Maryland   July 4th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

Hillary supporters are just throwing a temper tantrum!!!! the rightful candidate of our party was elected Fairly and Obama is our candidate! That isnt going to change so just shut up and quit complaining that you still want Hillary. If you truly supported Hillary then you would be voting for Obama.

Obama Richardson 2008!!!

Sam, Muncie, Ind.   July 4th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

It's really sad that Clinton supporters behave this way, but if it is their wont to not vote, then it is their right.

One of the myriad reasons Obama was so much more appealing to me than Clinton is he is devoid of exactly the kind of narcissistic, puerile mentality that the Clintons, and now, apparently, their supporters exhibit. If you can't get what you want, you lie about why you didn't get it, blame someone else, and cry like a baby.

Hopefully Obama's leadership will get our country out of the "me first" mindset the last several presidencies have coddled.

Enough Already!   July 4th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

People need to vote their conscience. There are a lot more candidates out there that are not getting any coverage.

Tejano   July 4th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

we are for McCain.

No Bama in our Lifetime. Semper fi

Marc PDX   July 4th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

Hmmm. Maybe it's because, as adults, Hillary's supporters aren't drinking the same Koolaid that the Barakiddies are drinking. Perhaps they can see that the Emporer doesn't actually have any new clothes on. Hmmm, just a thought...

frank   July 4th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

whats there to support ?HE flip – flops all the time

a friend   July 4th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

Why can't we all just get along.

susie   July 4th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

Obama's changed is changing what he said in the primary to what he is saying now. The DNC treated the democrat voters terrible and they don't deserve our vote. Hillary was consistent and knew her stuff.

Jason, Texas   July 4th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

PUMAS = 4 more years of McCain. More debt to China, Japan, etc. More deaths in the world. They only have themselves to blame!

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