July 15, 2008
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McCain criticized Obama's foreign policy Tuesday.
McCain criticized Obama's foreign policy Tuesday.


(CNN) —
Shortly after Barack Obama laid out his foreign policy vision in Washington Tuesday, presumptive Republican nominee John McCain criticized his proposals as naïve and premature, attacking the Illinois senator’s opposition to the surge policy in Iraq and highlighting his own proposal for victory in Afghanistan.

“He is speaking today about his plans for Iraq and Afghanistan before he has even left, before he has talked to General Petraeus, before he has seen the progress in Iraq, and before he has set foot in Afghanistan for the first time,” McCain said at a campaign event in New Mexico. “In my experience, fact-finding missions usually work best the other way around: first you assess the facts on the ground, then you present a new strategy.”

Obama will travel to Iraq later this month as part of a congressional delegation that will include Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and Democratic Sen. Jack Reed of Rhode Island, both of whom have been mentioned as possible running mates for the presumptive Democratic nominee.

At his foreign policy speech this morning, Obama attacked McCain's position on the state of the conflict. “Senator McCain said — just months ago — that ‘Afghanistan is not in trouble because of our diversion to Iraq.’ I could not disagree more," he said. "Our troops and our NATO allies are performing heroically in Afghanistan, but I have argued for years that we lack the resources to finish the job because of our commitment to Iraq."

McCain fired back roughly an hour later. “Senator Obama will tell you we can't win in Afghanistan without losing in Iraq. In fact, he has it exactly backwards. It is precisely the success of the surge in Iraq that shows us the way to succeed in Afghanistan,” McCain said. “It is by applying the tried and true principles of counter-insurgency used in the surge — which Senator Obama opposed — that we will win in Afghanistan. With the right strategy and the right forces, we can succeed in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

“I know how to win wars. And if I'm elected President, I will turn around the war in Afghanistan, just as we have turned around the war in Iraq, with a comprehensive strategy for victory.”

McCain’s Afghanistan proposal includes the addition of more brigades, the launch of an integrated nationwide security plan for the civilian population, greater military engagement of Taliban forces and unity of command, a doubling of the size of the Afghan army, a boost in for civilian-military engagement, and the appointment of an “Afghanistan Czar” – a White House-based national security official reporting to the president whose task is to bring the war to an end.

In his Tuesday remarks, he also stressed non-military assistance to the Afghan government and economy, and the promotion of alternative crops as a way to end drug trafficking in that region.

McCain added that special attention must be paid to Pakistan, “where terrorists today enjoy sanctuary,” calling for the strengthening of local tribes who are willing to fight terrorists there, as well as greater non-military assistance to the civilian government.

“Senator Obama has spoken in public about taking unilateral military action in Pakistan. In trying to sound tough, he has made it harder for the people whose support we most need to provide it,” said the Arizona senator.

(Updated with additional McCain remarks)

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Lorna, NY   July 15th, 2008 11:09 am ET

One does not have to travel to Iraq to know that we SHOULD NOT BE THERE! I've never been there and I know it is a disaster!

Linda. Boston, MA   July 15th, 2008 11:09 am ET

He said the war in Iraq was a strategic blunder before we ever even started it…. and he got that one correct. He doesn't need to visit Iraq or Afghanistan to know that we need to get out. The exact manner of our exit no doubt requires consultation from those in command. But the need to get out is crystal clear.

Joe   July 15th, 2008 11:09 am ET

I was thinking the same thing when I read that Obama was going to give his speech today. Isn't he the one who said last week that he would meet with the Generals on the ground first and then possibly refine his position? I'm confused. Once again talking out of both sides of his mouth.

whiner   July 15th, 2008 11:10 am ET

mccain just now remembered the war in afghanistan.obama must have reminded him.old-timers disease is setting in on the granpa mcbush.

Anonymous   July 15th, 2008 11:10 am ET

Looks like Barack Obama isn't doing as bad as Hillary and her supporters had hoped, wanting everyone to believe that Obama was doomed without dear old Hillary. Well apparently Obama doesn't need her.

"A new Quinnipiac poll shows Obama leading McCain nationally by nine points, 50%-41%. Per a release, “Independent voters split 44%-44%… Sen. McCain has a slight 47%-44% edge among men voters and a larger 49%-42% lead among white voters. But black voters back Sen. Obama 94%-1%, while women support him 55%-36%. Obama leads 63-%-31% percent among voters 18 to 34 years old and 48%-44% among voters 35 to 54, while voters over 55 split with 45% for McCain and 44% for Obama.”

Matt   July 15th, 2008 11:12 am ET

Exactly, President McCain!!

Obama is giving the same old speech on something he has no knowledge of.

Why even go to Afghanistan and Iraq if he has already made up his mind?

Obama doesn't have a clue! The media needs to stop propping him up and making excuses for him!

Anybody but Obama '08.

Wisconsin   July 15th, 2008 11:13 am ET

McWar…

So singing bomb bomb Iran, and talking about killing them with smoking is the "experienced" way to go?

So singing bomb bomb Iran, and talking about killing them with smoking is the "experienced" way to go?

Andy J, NY   July 15th, 2008 11:13 am ET

Well, i hate to say it, but McCain has a point. Usually you get the facts on the ground, talk to the guys in charge of the war, like the great General Patraeus, maybe even take a visit to the place for which intend on making policy, and then lay out a plan.

I really can't stand Obama's arrogance.

Mike, Syracuse NY   July 15th, 2008 11:13 am ET

Obama opposed the surge in Iraq and said it wouldn't work. Well it did, McCain was right Obama is wrong. Now Obama wants to surge in Afganistan. Strange how promotes the same policy he rejected.

Jamaal Kansas   July 15th, 2008 11:13 am ET

Mcbush you are a liar and you want to stay in Iraq when Bin laden is free and Laughing at the United States and Bush and McBush for there ignorance in Iraq when Bin Laden is in Afghanstan

dr.no   July 15th, 2008 11:13 am ET

mccain couldnt find afghanistan on a map of just afghanistan.

Donny   July 15th, 2008 11:13 am ET

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Wake me when Great-Grandpa McBush has finished talking.

Obama 08

Jon   July 15th, 2008 11:14 am ET

But what McCain has forgotten is that Obama has his amazing judgment and does not need to perform fact-finding missions before presenting the facts like other people.

Kirk, DC   July 15th, 2008 11:14 am ET

One thing about McCain has left an imprint in my memory. I am an independent and I vivdly remember him taking a stroll in a market in Bagdad about 2 years ago and declaring it secured. It was later found that the whole thing was staged.
When it comes to fact finding missions on the ground, I don't trust McCain one bit. That one incident is enough for me for never ever voting for the guy.

Kirk

Jenny, Rio Vista, CA   July 15th, 2008 11:15 am ET

McFossil is a joke. I remember his trip around an Iraqi market. I remember him singing about bombing Iran, I remember him joking about killing iranian civilians with cigarettes, I remember him saying that we could be in Iraq for 100 years, I remember him lying about his record concerning veterans… and that was to a veteran's face, I don't recall him correcting Bush about the GI bill, McCain voted against it but now is taking kudos for it. McCain you are a liar.

Wisconsin   July 15th, 2008 11:15 am ET

Hey McWar,

I don't need to go to Iraq to know that this war need to end!

Independent Voter   July 15th, 2008 11:15 am ET

Obama:

Ready - Fire - Aim.

Abby   July 15th, 2008 11:16 am ET

McCain does nothing but wait for an Obama plan then 'rip' it. He is an angry man…his very persona is about retaliation and anger while Obama’s is hope and preemptive action.

OBAMA 08 for hope and peace

Ian   July 15th, 2008 11:16 am ET

Nice to see CNN increasing their vocabulary and not using the word "slams" all the time.

Naomi   July 15th, 2008 11:16 am ET

McLame is grabbing at straws. Even GW Bush is doing some of the things that Barack mention regarding international affairs.

It's time to move into the future people. McLame is part of the past–let's move forward.

McCain sucks canes   July 15th, 2008 11:17 am ET

No Walmarts in Afghanistan old man!

PAT   July 15th, 2008 11:17 am ET

MCSAME YOU ARE THE ONE THAT IS PREMATURE AND INSANE AND NAIVE. WHAT THE HECK DO UOU THINK U ARE

Frank   July 15th, 2008 11:17 am ET

Obama's making a speech before he even gets all the facts from the guy in charge over there….ha…ha….ha….another bone-head move! And you want this guy to be president??? Oh my….

Greg, NY   July 15th, 2008 11:17 am ET

To Joe above,

I don't know why people were freaking out about a possible policy change on Iraq. 'Refine' has a different definition than 'redefine.'

When you refine your position, you enhance it, make it better. Redefining would've been the problem word. By refining his policy, he'll make the withdrawal from Iraq even smarter and safer.

Look up the actual definitions and you'll understand that.

Andy J, NY   July 15th, 2008 11:18 am ET

Linda and Lorna-

You have no idea what you are talking about. Its been a disaster? Why have you not heard anything about Iraq in the news for the past 6 months? Ill tell you why- Because things are finally starting to progress. Anyone who has been there will tell you things are so much better than they were. So stop spouting out the garbage about the war being lost, because if you shut your mouth and opened your eyes and your mind, you would see that we are making tremendous gains in Iraq, and we will win in Afghanistan, and we will defeat islamic extremism. Your lack of faith is disturbing.

Women like you shouldn't be allowed in combat, i wouldn't want someone like you to have my back. Its obvious you would run and hide to save your own skin, to hell with everyone else. Way to go, ladies.

Ben   July 15th, 2008 11:18 am ET

McCain should stop talking and go get on "the Google" as GW can say, or "watch the internet" as John McCain said. These dinosaurs are funny.

Candy West Virginia   July 15th, 2008 11:18 am ET

McCain better watch out. Every time he has criticized Obama, it has backfired and turned out that Obama has been right. Goes to show you who has the better judgement. Obama has been right on just about everything so far - the war, the stupid gas tax holiday, on Afghanistan, on diplomatic relations with foreign leaders. Goes to show you it takes judgement over so called experience. George Bush had so called experience.

Teflon McCain   July 15th, 2008 11:18 am ET

Can McCain even differentiate b/t Shiia and Sunni yet??? That could lay the groundwork of HIS foreign policy!!

Daniel   July 15th, 2008 11:18 am ET

Lorna - How do you know that it is a disaster? Because of what the liberal media tells you? Have you ever talked to someone who has been there. Obviously we don't want to be there, but we are, and we have to finish the job. You are right, one doesn't need to travel to Iraq to have an opinion about it, but honestly, one would have a much clearer picture of the truth after visiting, which is why Obama should keep his mouth shut until he has visited and seen the situation on the ground.

Eric   July 15th, 2008 11:19 am ET

Mccain, you don't make the difference between Shia and Sunni, you still think Tcheckoslovakia exists, you still think the Iraq war was a good thing, you voted againt a GI bill which shows your contempt for the men and women in uniform. You have shown all the signs you have not the judgement to be Commander in Chief.

I can't wait to hear Obama laying out his strategy that will include different levels of intervention (military, agressive diplomacy, sanctions, etc.) and then listen to all the GOP talking heads, who haven't been able in the last 8 years to develop a comprehensive foreign policy, to jump on any stupid detail and distort the truth, as usual. Oh well.

Tony, Miami   July 15th, 2008 11:19 am ET

Senator McEnd whether you get order to bomb people or you decide to do it on your own, being a bomber doesn't mean you know it all about foreign policy.

11 Bravo   July 15th, 2008 11:19 am ET

oh, NOW you want to fight in Afghanistan? Obama has been saying that all along.

Please, Senator McCain, TRY to keep up!

John McShame, Obama Is Going to Tax You & Cindy, but Not Me & 95% Americans Making < $250,000/Yr   July 15th, 2008 11:19 am ET

McCain rips Obama foreign policy?!

does McSame have a brain? or he is too senile to articulate a point of view on these issues…..he forgot afghanistan; now mcshame is for it.

glad Obama is dictating the debate….hope McSenile can keep up!

Jamaal Kansas   July 15th, 2008 11:20 am ET

Mostly all american have never even been to Iraq or Afghanistan but that doesn't mean we don't Know that the war in Iraq has caused to many deaths for no reason or that We are in Iraq but we still haven't found Bin Laden and are further now that we have ever been thanks to Mcbush and His Brother Bush. I have never been to either of those places but that does not make my opion or anyone elses Opion less worthy Mcbush is feeling the Pressure of the Campaign because Obama is doing better than and No one is Listen to Mcbush and this article is an example why!

McCain sucks canes   July 15th, 2008 11:20 am ET

I didn't know how much republicans hated blacks and other minorities. It is apparent that republicans only want the votes and if these minorities are running within their party to advance their racists agenda.

Obama Supporter from FL   July 15th, 2008 11:20 am ET

I'm sure McCain's well-protected tour of the green zone really gave him a feel for "the facts on the ground." Please.

Enlightened Voter   July 15th, 2008 11:20 am ET

john, john, john, you have looked like a moron continuously by bashing Obama and it has been a slap in the face for you every time. It's a shame with all your so called experience you lack such poor judgement. Obama's judgement has been impeccable so far something we need in a president. I'll take his judgement over your so called experience any day. BTW Barack served 8 yrs as Illinois Senator and 3 as US Senator. Prior to that he was a Constitutional Law Scholar.

ANGIE   July 15th, 2008 11:20 am ET

and just what are your plans mcbush whats the matter no oil in afghanistan did your buddy bush tell you to ignore afghanstan due to the fact there is no oil!!!!!!!!! mcbush why dont you retire and leave us with senator obama who has a clue and is brilliant unlike you you senile fool!!!!!!!!!

Ms. RDS   July 15th, 2008 11:21 am ET

@Joe…uhh in order to refine his position, he as to state it FIRST, which is what he is doing. McCain is just trying to get some come back b/c he had a major speech on the war planned for Thursday and Barack stepped on him first…

Realistic   July 15th, 2008 11:21 am ET

Anonymous: With Obama not able to stand firm for anything at this point in time by the time November comes people will see more and more of who this weak candidate is. He will lose by a landslide.

SIMP   July 15th, 2008 11:22 am ET

Mccain can't remember what day it is let alone try to tear down Obama's stratagey for this war. Mccain has that angry streak in him just like bush, you mccain supporters better beware, this guy is scary.

Obama all the way!!!

Bob Indianapolis, IN   July 15th, 2008 11:22 am ET

Yo clown! He talked to Petraeus the last time he was in Washington. Where were you? Campaigning somewhere?

carrie hussein obama   July 15th, 2008 11:23 am ET

thanks for the info anonymous
no one is stopping this train,
we're moving all the way to the white house
the war is responsible for destroying the middle east,creating more enemies for the us and making the world a very unsafe place
obama is the only man who can clean this up

obama
for
ever

obamacrat   July 15th, 2008 11:24 am ET

I wish McCain would get on a plane and head for Checkloslavakia. Maybe by the time he figures out that it doesn't exist anymore the election will be over.

Ohio   July 15th, 2008 11:24 am ET

My question for McCain is how he can talk about the economy when he knows nothing about it and lives in a completely different economic America then most of us. Not to mention that his chief economic advisor tells us that when we lose our jobs, homes, health care, and every other stable of the American dream, that it is just our minds going goofy.

Harry C   July 15th, 2008 11:25 am ET

A turncoat has no rights to tell us what we REAL AMERICAN'S need as a President! Does McCain have no shame for the lives of other prisoners he gave up for a smoke.? McShame belongs in a war crimes prison.

SDunn   July 15th, 2008 11:25 am ET

I don't see anything wrong with Obama going to Iraq. His plan is to set a new mission to withdrawal when he becomes President. I'm sure he wants to meet with the soldiers there who are in harms way. At least he cares about our soldiers and our veterans and has a record in Congress to prove it unlike John McCain who didn't even want to support the new GI bill. Obama has not flip flopped or changed his stance on this issue. McCain on the other hand has flip flopped 61 times as recorded on many websites so far from topics like immigration reform to privitization of social security. I don't trust a thing McCain says on any given day because he might change his mind in the next hour at another press conference.

Don   July 15th, 2008 11:25 am ET

Anonymous,
When u point to Polls i have two words for you New Hampshire and if i want to be specific Dem Primaries 2008. Most people make their true choices when they are casting their ballot, remember most all last minute voters went with Clinton?

JohnBoy   July 15th, 2008 11:26 am ET

I like the poll we have in November, no other poll matters.

American for a American president.

McCain 08

dEMOBRAT   July 15th, 2008 11:26 am ET

Yeah, but Obama was up nearly 10 pts in the polls a month ago. Obama is now experiencing the media backlash. They don't love you forever.

mk   July 15th, 2008 11:28 am ET

McCain is completely out of touch with reality. Fear politics is his only hope.

Judgement vs Rash Coughups   July 15th, 2008 11:28 am ET

"Sen. McCain said _ just months ago _ that Afghanistan is not in trouble because of our diversion to Iraq. I could not disagree more. Our troops and our NATO allies are performing heroically in Afghanistan, but I have argued for years that we lack the resources to finish the job because of our commitment to Iraq," Obama said.

(With the news on Monday et all about the historical death toll in Afgh, McSame is now rashly coughing up common sense that Obama had from the beginning!)

While McSame has accused Obama of favoring surrender in Iraq by outlining a troop withdrawal timetable, McCain told reporters on Monday, "I think we need to do whatever is necessary (in Afghanistan) and that could entail more troops." (You see? Why wait until things turn haywire before you take action - because you lack good judgement like Obama!!!)

Adam   July 15th, 2008 11:29 am ET

In the same quote McCain states, "Afghanistan is not in trouble because of our diversion to Iraq," Then says "…we lack the resources to finish the job because of our commitment to Iraq."

So McCain really means Iraq has drained resources to finish the job in Afghanistan.

Old man McCain has no vision.

Linda K.   July 15th, 2008 11:29 am ET

I'll make this easy for you, Joe.

In today's speech, I'm sure Obama will lay out the basic principles, the foundation, of his foreign policy. When it comes to the details, he can refine those with more information.

That's not flip-flopping. It's sound judgment. First the big picture. Then the details. Got it?

Janey for McCain   July 15th, 2008 11:30 am ET

Attempting to listen to Obama's speech is about as exciting as watching paint dry…..I cannot understand why he is promoting surges in Afghanistan while, at the same time, wanting to cut and run from Iraq when success is so close. Does he really think America will have any credibility in the world and be welcomed anywhere if we desert Iraq? Osama terrorists are gone from Iraq because of the US and it's heros. He knocks our success in Iraq because he was against it. Now he wants to boost his ego by being "for" a war! Go figure–egomania does not become a Presidential candidate!

NObama   July 15th, 2008 11:31 am ET

"McCain to rip Obama foreign policy".

Should be easy.

TF   July 15th, 2008 11:31 am ET

McCain's strategic plan is to keep the American dollar weak and oil prices high. McCain is doing exactly what Bush has been planning for years. McCain ask Bush why he won't release the Naval oil reserves we continue to buy on the open market. Bush is purchasing this oil to keep oil prices high. If he cared he would stop buying oil for the Naval reserve and release for it's original purpose, which is to help America in a time of crisis. Guess what we are in a energy crisis. Fuel has gone up 200% in 2 years.

Susan from Scotts Valley, CA   July 15th, 2008 11:32 am ET

So he will go to the Middle East and then REFINE his plans. REFINE = FINE TUNE. You don't have to go there to get the big picture. The big picture is that we shouldn't have gone to Iraq in the first place and we shouldn't have turned our attention from Afghanistan. Afghanistan is falling apart before our very eyes. You don't have to go there to know that. The big picture is that once there the Iraq war was executed poorly and now, although violence is down, the surge itself is an illusion as the issues that divide the Iraqi people are not being addressed. You don't have to go there to know that. The big picture is that we can't afford this war and our military families are being strained beyond belief because of Iraq. You don't have to go there to know that.

People get a clue. McCain is just a continuation of the failed Bush policies that have gotten us into this mess in the first place.

R.I.F.   July 15th, 2008 11:33 am ET

It's not like McCain's actually been in the combat zones. They go and tour the markets with 100 troops following their every move. That's not exactly "getting a feel on the ground", It's like going through the streets of Beverly Hills to get a state of the US economy. McCain's out of touch.

dennis from chicago   July 15th, 2008 11:33 am ET

o bama the great PROFESSOR talks today 7 15 08 about what could have beens…… excellent he is so resourceful…. a history teacher in the mix….. o bama talk is cheap yap yap yap…. i did not vote for the iraq war because i voted PRESENT…. give it up you are reckless ….America needs leadership not a story teller…..

Rob   July 15th, 2008 11:34 am ET

Well, if Obama wants all troops moved from Iraq to Afghanistan / Pakistan, how does it help us? the troops are still there. do you guys really think that the troops will come home (dont forget that he will have to leave many soldiers/marines in iraq, for logistics and protection of the american civil workers)??? dont expect too much from your sunny boy Obama.

Rob from NC

SEMPER FI

NotFallingInLine.org   July 15th, 2008 11:34 am ET

Obama's Pair of Teleprompters for President '08

Knoxville NFIL

Dave in Atlanta   July 15th, 2008 11:34 am ET

I find it interesting how these republican politicians go to Iraq, walk around a little bit in the green zone, and then come back acting like they have seen the "real Iraq" like one comedian said: That's like going to the Olive Garden and then saying you've been to Italy.

I don't think McCain's recent trips to Iraq give him more perspective on Iraq than Obama has.

jimmy velman   July 15th, 2008 11:34 am ET

PEOPLE WITH INTEGRITY STAND BEHIND THEIR WORDS AND BELIEFS.. ANONYMOUS' ANONYMITY DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE IT. HOW ABOUT BENEDICT ARNOLD II FOR A NAME.

Robert   July 15th, 2008 11:35 am ET

the run down

Senator Obama has the subtle advantage of youth, not just in the physical but in 'raring to go'. He seems to be gaining raw speed over his slow but otherwise decent opponent - even as Senator Mccain is complaining that voters are tired of the relentless cable news (infact, its Senator Mccain that is worn out). The Obama campaign is turning on the 'turbo' speed, intent on running down the GOP senator, who will hop along from issue to issue long after Obama has moved forth.(Long after = hours after).
Buckle up folks! No speed limits on the highway of democracy.

D. Hunter   July 15th, 2008 11:35 am ET

Old Man McCain couldn't rip himself out of a wet paperbag!

Kyle Indianapolis, Indiana   July 15th, 2008 11:36 am ET

The only thing McSame can rip is his hip. OUCH! We don't need a 75-year-old President who is ALREADY confused on the facts!

McSTUPID   July 15th, 2008 11:36 am ET

Is Loserman going to be by your side to wisper in your ear when you get lost in your own head again?

Forget being president, McCain shouldn't be allowed to drive!

Denise Groves   July 15th, 2008 11:36 am ET

Lets see, first he criticizes him for not visiting in 2 years, then he wants to critize him when he does. Which is it McCain?

John Y   July 15th, 2008 11:37 am ET

As a registered Republican who has totally given up on the neocons you lost me when you said you would NOT raise taxes and would in fact cut more where you could. As a nation currently at war thanks to the moron in our Capitol currently destroying the Republic and the party named for it, not raising taxes at this time to pay for this unnecessary occupation is ignorant at best. To get this ship sailing again we need to end this occupation and raise taxes on those paying them to provide the necessary boost to our economy, namely other Nation's trust in our solvency, to get back moving in a forward direction.

Ken   July 15th, 2008 11:38 am ET

We needed a surge in Iraq and we needed a surge in Afghanistan we took our eye of Afghanistan now they are resurging themselves and traveling between Iraq and Afghanistan. The decision made this election we will live with 30 yrs from now, I will be 54 yrs old, do we contine rto burn fossil fuels for the next 30 yrs, do we stay in Iraq and Afghanistan for the next 30 yrs, McCain will be dead but America will keep paying for it. Iraq wants us out, lets get out.

Deb   July 15th, 2008 11:38 am ET

just shut up obama and pick hillary for VP already. we'll take care of the rest …. puma ….

larry buchas   July 15th, 2008 11:38 am ET

Yeah McSame,

The war we sanctioned was in Afghanistan. Barack always understood it. You and Bush didn't. You were focused on the oil in Iraq with Bush.

Osama Bin Laden has been set free to roam and to plot his next move. What happened? You and Bush cut and run from the real war on terror.

Now we're fighting on two fronts and you're interested in sarting a third. We don't have enough troops to cover all of this. Now we need a surge in Afghanistan.

Thanks for nothing. And no thanks for a $3 trillion war and loss of unnecessary lives.

Stan   July 15th, 2008 11:38 am ET

I noticed Barrack didn't mention Afghanistan being a "distraction" in his latest speach, even though we still have more troops there than in Iraq. Funny he has all these "plans" yet has not even been there.
Dare I mention Afghanistan? The one Bill Clinton got us into? Yes-Clinton. And don't tell me otherwise-I was one of the first to go there back in '98

When I got back, they wanted me to take that very controversial anthrax shot-the one suspected to cause to birth defects. I put in my paperwork instead & retired-no shot for this guy.

Bill & Barrack can "stick it" in each other….

McCain/Powell '08

A Nightingale Sings in Berkley Square   July 15th, 2008 11:38 am ET

Realistic,
I see that the current Repug strategy is to try and label Obama as a flip-flopper. So, if you can't say anything positive about McBush then make things up about Obama? Is that it? So tell me, when McSame flip-flops, is it on purpose or is actually the beginning stages of Alzheimers?

PG   July 15th, 2008 11:38 am ET

McSame what about that viagra question? Still waiting.

Thomas   July 15th, 2008 11:39 am ET

If " presumptive Republican nominee John McCain plans to criticize his proposals as naïve and premature ", wouldn't it be " naïve and premature " to plan to criticize Obama BEFORE " the Illinois senator’s opposition to the surge policy in Iraq and highlighting his own proposal for victory in Afghanistan " ?

DflateMacsStr8TalkXpress: Econ MIA, AWOL on facts, POW from reality   July 15th, 2008 11:39 am ET

Before Grampy rips anyone he better get the difference between Shia and Sunni straight, realize (without Joe Liberman to remind him) the real threat of Al Qaeda, and understand that Czechoslovakia is longer a country so will have nothing to do with Russia. Got it, old man?

JC Atlanta   July 15th, 2008 11:42 am ET

OBAMA talk to PETRAEUS early this month and had a meeting with army leaders what is Mc Cain talking about !Of course he is try to get media attention and finally realise that AFGHANISTAN was a big matter wake up MC CAIN you are sleeping buddy!

jean HUISSEIN (WHAT HAPPEN TO THE GREAT COUNTRY WE USED TO BE???)   July 15th, 2008 11:42 am ET

GM IS CUTTING JOB.

WHY ARE WE SHIPPING OUR JOB TO OVERSEAS?
WHY CAN'T WE COMPETE WITH EUROPEANS AND ASIANS?
OUR COUNTRY IS GOING DOWNWARD

AMERICAN AGAINST FREE TRADE AND WAR.

BARACK HUISSEIN OBAMA 08 AND 12

Chuck, Democrats United We Stand   July 15th, 2008 11:42 am ET

Talking about reality, it is a shame that McCain wears blinders and can not see what is fact. McCain needs to open his eyes and see the situation for what it is. Iraq, a failed policy build around a store house of lies and deception. Afganistan a potentially failed policy built around under staffing, underfunding and over shadowed by Iraq's war of lies and deception

Robert, SC   July 15th, 2008 11:44 am ET

Adam:

The first quote is McCain; the second is Obama.

Bryan   July 15th, 2008 11:44 am ET

This whole "You can't criticize our policies in Iraq/Afghanistan until you've been there" argument is TERRIBLE. Just give it up, McCain.

It's like saying you can't critique a movie unless you were on the set when it was made.

RED STATE   July 15th, 2008 11:44 am ET

Headline should read

"MCCAIN TO GIVE SPEACH ON HIS PLANS FOR PERSIA, AND THE GROWING TENSIONS BETWEEN THE USA AND THE USSR."

Esther   July 15th, 2008 11:45 am ET

True wisdom and judgement is not about getting the facts or the fact-finding according to McSame, it is about what you do with the facts! It is about insight, predictions that come true and good judgement and solid strategy long before things start playing you out.

A commander-in-chief should be in control making plans and taking actions to achieve the intended outcomes not the other way around of the outcomes shaping the reactions like McSame obviously supports.

Obama's record shows a very strong wisdom and judgement as opposed to McSame's considering their predictions on Iraq years ago.

Wisconsin   July 15th, 2008 11:45 am ET

McWar's plan is wrong for America. He has no idea what America needs and only wants to be Bush III.

Obama has a plan for the future and yes I believe that a President talking about Hope is not a bad thing.

The truth   July 15th, 2008 11:45 am ET

To Lorna NY:

No, what you know just came from what the media wrote and not really the facts. Not only the media are biased, but also they only know a part based on what they can cover (and just the ones that they want to cover only). I'm sure, the reality is much more complex than what you and I saw on the media.

Obama is a sneaky person and want only to take advantage of someone else for his own gain. For example, not only he is not inexperienced and doesn't really know anything that he opposed the troop surge, but also when the surge is working and Iraq is heading toward a democracy country, then he will say that he will finish the job and make Iraq case become America's winning, so that people will see that he is the "hero" that can make the Iraq war becomes good for America.

Do you see my point here? First, he always positions himself to whatever is good for him, not the country. So if something is moving toward something good for him, he will be there.

I never see that he's dealing, talking and negotiating with other foreign leaders in the world. What he talks only in America where races are equal and the white people are afraid of the black people.

If we want to trace back for centuries, what the black people have done and contributed to the world that can make them to be respectable and honored by the world? I'm not saying none, but for how much in percentage?

If you respect someone, you know that he/she deserves the respect because of his/her pure sacrifice to you, right? Respect cannot be forced. Same thing applies to the nation. Without our sacrifice, don't hope that the world will respect us. And among the Americans, who give the most sacrifices and contributions? You know that.

If Obama becomes the president, if the world still gives respect, it is because of the America, and not him. But silently, I am sure that the world leaders will undermind him simply because in their mind, black people are Africans who are poor and uneducated. If you ask the world, who they prefer to talk to and to have business with? Surely the white people. Why? Because they are more trusted and respectable. I'm talking about majority. Like or dislike, that is still the reality.

See, if CNN will post this comment or not. I'm not seeing that this comment will do harm to our country. But if CNN doesn't publish, it's because this comment doesn't favor to Obama. I'm not worried, because I'm blogging to everywhere not only CNN.

Chuck, Democrats United We Stand   July 15th, 2008 11:45 am ET

McCain can say anything he want, but no matter what comes from his mouth, it will be nothing by McBush distortions of fact and out right tap dancing around the truth. McCain knows he is wrong and knows that the current policies are wrong; however he lacks the ability to accept the facts as they are and turn a new page towards a new direction.

OBlahBlahBlahBama   July 15th, 2008 11:45 am ET

All of you pathetic hypocritic age discriminating punks that constantly moan about racism get a job and move out of your mother's basement. BTW, do you kiss your grandmothers with that filthy unrespectful mouth of yours?

Fred   July 15th, 2008 11:45 am ET

Bring it on….

He can't even use the internet.

Kevin Leo (Jonesboro, GA)   July 15th, 2008 11:46 am ET

Think about this rationally people!!! Obama is getting tons of intelligence and ACTUALLY LISTENING to his advisors, unlike Bush or McSame. I don't need to go to Darfur to know how messed up things are there do I?!

FLORIDA Voter for Barack Obama   July 15th, 2008 11:47 am ET

I AM A VOTER AND HAVE NEVER BEEN TO IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN.

LIKE MOST VOTERS EVEN I CAN SEE IT IS OBVIOUS THE HUGE MISTAKE WE MADE INVADING IRAQ.

THERE WAS NO EXCUSE. THERE WERE NO WEAPONS. WE HAVE NO PURPOSE THERE NOW UNLESS IT IS THE WRONG PURPOSE SUCH AS OIL!

HELLO AMERICA? HAVE YOU FALLEN ASLEEP AGAIN?

WAKE UP AND SMELL THE BS.

WE NEED TO END THIS CATASTROPHY.

YOU KNOW THIS AS WELL AS I DO.

Gianni   July 15th, 2008 11:48 am ET

McCain is a fool.And I am a Conservative.Republicans are educated illiterates,boring,parochial and ofcourse lack direction.What a pack of fools.

Super D   July 15th, 2008 11:49 am ET

First of all,

If you let a stupid, liberal Democrat in charge of anything military, you're asking for a total screw up.

Second of all,

Obamabots, he's not talking to you, he's playing to independents, so enough of your stupid, ignorant and uneducated comments.

I hope Petraeus spits in his face when they meet. He's nothing but a defeatest.

Jenny   July 15th, 2008 11:49 am ET

Rip, that's a good one. McCain should rip open his medication and chill.

Sean   July 15th, 2008 11:49 am ET

McCain really IS confused. When Obama made it clear that the execution of his plan for withdrawl will be based on information gathered from Iraq and our military leaders there, McCain claims Obama's flip-flopping. And then McCain invents some strange charge that Obama isn't basing his plan on facts gathered from Iraq and our commanders there, even though in truth, he is?

Honestly, I'm not really sure what supposed problem McCain is referring to here. He seems to have lost the plot…

Rick   July 15th, 2008 11:49 am ET

If the only thing you Obama supporters can run on, is the Bush comparison, then you are in real trouble. I have one simple question to everyone, Democrat, Republican , and Independent. If you apply to be a CEO of a business, do you think they would require years of experience? Our Country is way more important than a business! I know I'd like to get a CEO job by saying "I want to give the employees and stockholders hope and change for a better future." That with 2 years in the mail room would get me laughed out the door. I am confident we will do the right thing!

Were NOT your friends!   July 15th, 2008 11:50 am ET

McCain, you are REALLY REALLY out of touch. 99% of Americans havn't been to Iraq and about 70% of them know that we need to begin pulling out and putting an end to this thing! Afghanistan is the MAJOR issue now and ALWAYS should have been! Obama's correct. There's nothing wrong with changing your position on something as long as your truthful and your representing the facts.

OBAMA '08

desibigb   July 15th, 2008 11:50 am ET

"Nine soldiers killed in one day" What other kind of bloody evidence you need to know that Afhganistan should have been a priority rather than Iraq. The whole world except ( mcbush and bush) knows that Iraq was given a priority beacause of self interests. The disgusting fact is there are few who still support mcbush and his planning to stay in iraq for 100 years rather than concentrating more on Afghanistan.

Bruce   July 15th, 2008 11:50 am ET

McCain sucks canes wrote:

"I didn't know how much republicans hated blacks and other minorities. It is apparent that republicans only want the votes and if these minorities are running within their party to advance their racists agenda."

That is the stupidest things I think I've ever read in here. So you are grouping all Republicans as white and making repugnant remarks. Doesn't THAT slap of racism? You need to get a life.

T.J.   July 15th, 2008 11:51 am ET

His poll numbers have dropped substantially in the past few weeks due to his never ending pandering; his willingness to say anything he thinks will get him elected. The extreme lefties are becoming distrustful of Obama, and this latest “Lets get out of Iraq” rhetoric is him simply trying to stop the bleeding of his left wing base. As the weeks go by it seems less and less like “Change we can believe in”, but more and more like the same old politics, exactly what he said he wasn’t. Who are you really Obama? I’m not sure you even really know. Get some core values and stick to them. So many flip flops in just a few months is really hurting your credibility.

aaron from minneapolis   July 15th, 2008 11:51 am ET

Obama hasn't talked to Petreus? That's funny, so when he interviewed him during a house congressional hearing earlier this year that must not have been talking??? Ok, McCain keep on spreading lies.

Tom Soppe, Portland, OR   July 15th, 2008 11:52 am ET

McCain has been so wrong for so long, he sure has nerve to criticize Obama who has been right from the start about this war.

But McCain knows he can get away with it since the McCain-worshipping media never criticizes him.

I've had enough of McSame.

William, from Cali!   July 15th, 2008 11:53 am ET

Everyone wants to play, "Captain General"……………………..this ain't "play station"………………………….Just keep fighting; and win the War, on all fronts!

Jason   July 15th, 2008 11:54 am ET

Whatever Obama says is what I think. He's soooooooo different!

jc   July 15th, 2008 11:54 am ET

I'm curious what all those screaming about the US being in Iraq are thinking about Obama's apparent plans to increase the US military presence in Afghanistan? Do those demanding that all US troops return home realize that Obama merely plans to divert a bunch of them to Afghanistan?

Jann, Denver CO   July 15th, 2008 11:54 am ET

His visit to Iraq will not change his position. We should have never gone to Iraq, and we now need to now get out of Iraq. The American people want out of this war as of yesterday, and John McCain will not deliver us from this non -sensical war.

Saad from NJ   July 15th, 2008 11:55 am ET

It gets funnier by the day…. it gets disgusting by the day…. it gets stupid by the day…. it gets marvelous by the day….. what a joke this pre-election stuff has become…

Wisconsin   July 15th, 2008 11:55 am ET

….

Hey McWar

What's the difference between Shia and Sunni?

Where is Al Qaeda from?

Maybe you should know these things if you want to be President.

Cynthia   July 15th, 2008 11:56 am ET

I am listening to Senator Obama's plan for Afghanistan and can't wait to hear what Senator McCain has to say. I wonder where he will get the troops from since we need more in Afghanistan that are already in Iraq?

Mary   July 15th, 2008 11:56 am ET

Can we have some real straight talk from McCain?

So tell America McCain how you went about going into this unwarranted war to begin with? What was your strategy? Did you go to Iraq and see the WMD and then say lets attack?

At the beginning you said Iraq war would be easy. Now you say people who thought it would be a walk in the park were naïve. So which one is it? From that I gather that you think YOU, McCain, are NAÏVE!!!

multus vult   July 15th, 2008 11:56 am ET

Obama's site was down for maintenance yesterday. The Flipper Scrubbers were busy, purging all critique of the surge just in time for yet another teleprompter event today. He has no record, he has no strongly held positions, he has no experience, he has no shame lying, he gives pandering new meaning, he's arrogant to the nth. Good job, DNC.

NORA, FLORIDA   July 15th, 2008 11:56 am ET

Instead of McCain looking to critique Obama's plan as if he is the professor in college, he should be getting one of his own. The way I see it, McCain is in no shape mentally of physically for that matter to be critiquing anything after the mess the Bush Administration has made of this country and how we are viewed.

Tom Soppe, Portland, OR   July 15th, 2008 11:57 am ET

The McSame surge is not working. It was supposed to make it so we could pull back already way before this time. You can't just periodically move even more troops to Iraq, stretch us even thinner, and then call yourself a genius for figuring out that spending even more money on ground forces has resulted in a little bit more control over there. What we need to do is get out.

Obama is good for visiting Iraq, and its no flip flop to say he will refine his definite plans to get us out upon working out the details with generals.

go away monger- Ventura ca   July 15th, 2008 11:57 am ET

He "rips" Obama on a daily basis. Perhaps if he had some real plans of his own he wouldn't feel the need to stay so negative. This is more of the same from republicans- fear, smear, and innuendo. NOT THIS TIME!

A NATION OF WHINERS   July 15th, 2008 11:57 am ET

MCBUSH & BUSH HAVE DONE A STELLAR JOB??????

THE IRONY IS THAT THE BUSH CHAIRMAN OF THE

JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF, SUPPORTS THE OBAMA PLAN

FOR IRAQ & IRAN & IN FACT HAS TRIED TO IMPLEMENT IT.

Wanda, elgin, texas   July 15th, 2008 11:57 am ET

The man is just old and stupid and looks like a robot any way he turns.
BARACK OBAMA - PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, 8YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jan   July 15th, 2008 11:58 am ET

With all of the leftists against Romney for VP–makes me think they are running scared and McCain should pick him! Now the blogs are full of nasty remarks about religion–did not hear it against Wright and his religion of hate from the libs!

CB   July 15th, 2008 11:58 am ET

Obama has been right since DAY 1 on Iraq. Bush, McCain and the rest have been covering their buts.

Immaturity is using your war machine for every little thing because you're too weak to try other approaches.

Maturity is SEEING that we are gonna need to get off OIL if we are to survive.

Dr.Mimi De La Cruz   July 15th, 2008 11:59 am ET

MCBUSH NEEDS HELP TO FIND HIS WAY OUT

OF A ROOM, LET ALONE OUT OF THE ECONOMIC

DISASTER HE HELPED CREATE.

jc   July 15th, 2008 11:59 am ET

As for those calling Bush or McCain neocons (as if that is an insult?), you probably need to do a little more reading. Neocons are staunchly against nation-building, which is exactly what is and has been going on in Iraq for years now. I'm not sure what I would characterize Bush's policies (other than poor), but it is certainly not a neoconservative agenda. When someone puts the label neocon on Bush, it makes that person appear like they don't know what they are talking about.

DEMOCRAT   July 15th, 2008 12:00 pm ET

To rip? Why in the heck doesn't he write up his own policy so we can try we can make an informed decision between the two men… Unbelievable…

pakuna   July 15th, 2008 12:00 pm ET

Oh yes Master get us out of Iraq and send them boys over to Afghanistan and Pakistan. Master said Iraq was not our War. When he sends them boys and girls to Afghanistan and Pakistan then it will be our War. So do not fear the Master will get us out of Iraq. Vote Obama the Master of all.

SHAME   July 15th, 2008 12:02 pm ET

OBAMA LOOKS VERY PRESIDENTIAL DOING HIS SPEECH. HIS POLICIES ARE VERY SOUND.

german man   July 15th, 2008 12:02 pm ET

So many American people have their heads in the sand. Don't they realize that Hitler was Germany's "Man of Change"?

He ran on the same platform …. he was going to bring about great changes to benefit everyone. Well, he certainly did!

The citizens rallied to support him - cheered him on as they watched in idolization. Sounding familiar? And after all the "changes", we know what happened next.

With Barack we will be asking for bigger government, bigger taxes to support all the "giveaway" programs he is proposing, less money in everyone's pockets, and the loss of even more small businesses. You think big business runs everything now? Just wait!

The government already wants to tell us what light bulbs to buy, how our food should be grown (and who can grow it), what we can and can't wear, what can legally be put into our childrens' vaccinations, etc. Pretty soon we'll be told we can only have so many children (like China already does). Where does it all end?

I have thought and have seen the paralleism between the Hitler campaign and the Obama campaign. It's scary but true.
The people of Germany idolized Hitler and fell at his feet, much like Americans are doing to Obama.

Hitler had a hidden agenda as I believe Obama has as well. There are way to many "unknowns" about Obama. I don't think America really likes this guy that much, they just want change and since McCain is a republican, America automatically tunes him out because of Bush.

McCain is very different from Bush and will be the best candidate to lead America. I pray America will come to her senses and vote Obama out…..if not, America will enter very dark days as did Germany under Hitler.

Dem 4 Obama, PA   July 15th, 2008 12:03 pm ET

Oh sure, Sen. Obama is the one that is naive and lacking experience. Isn't he the one that actually drew all this necessary attention to the REAL war on terror…the one taking place in Afghanistan. Now McCain has a plan for that war too. He wasn't even thinking of Afghanistan before everyone realized that Obama was right in terms of his focus!

McCain is clueless and simply following Obama's lead. Oh, and how can he be prepared to oppose it when he hasn't even heard it? I guess his speech writers have some stock rebuttals on file.

McCain…what a joke!

Rugo A.   July 15th, 2008 12:03 pm ET

MCCAIN travelled to Iraq more than ten times and he still believe the war on terror is in Iraq, I don't think that he understand the real war that america should be fighting.

FLIP FLOPPERS UNITED   July 15th, 2008 12:04 pm ET

Another flip flop for Barrack

Bulldog   July 15th, 2008 12:04 pm ET

McCain has been on how many fact finding missions to Iraq and still can't get his facts straight. The "surge" was meant to get the Iraqi government to gets it's act together while decreasing violence. It has succeeded in decreasing violence but the Iraqi governement is far from getting it's act together and many innocent people are still dying everyday. Just because military members are not dying doesn't mean innocent Iraqis dying is ok. But according to McCain Iraq is a great success while 30 people were killed just today. He doesn't even know the difference between the Shia and Sunnis. Obama knows that and hasn't even been there. McCain is stuck back in the 60's. We need someone who understands the current times.

The Clear Thinking Independent Voter   July 15th, 2008 12:05 pm ET

I had the pleasure of see President Bush’s news conference this morning. He read prepared remarks, the details of which he clearly was uncomfortable with. I then saw him attempt to answer reporters questions doing what I thought was a poor job of keeping on topic. At one point, he remarked something to the effect of , “I’m 62, I don’t remember everything you’ve asked”.

Immediately following, Senator Obama presented his comprehensive, detailed, foreign policy plans for the nation. It was a well thought out treatise and he had command of the details in a way that I’ve not seen from either George Bush or John McCain. His intellectual superiority as compared to these two gentlemen was clear.

Moreover, I don’t know when I’ve heard a politician in recent years, including ALL 100 Senators in Congress, discuss an action plan with a schedule and the resources (people, dollars, equipment) so completely specified. It puts to rest every criticism ever uttered by ANY opponent of Barack Obama. These were strategic solutions that reflect a masterful understanding of the lessons of history, the stimuli that move the human spirit of all on Earth into action, combined with the benefits that Superpower status affords the United States.

Bravo Senator … mindless critics be silent now.

Love My USA   July 15th, 2008 12:06 pm ET

CHANGE??????? BO - null null - otherwise known as Dr. NO!

"CHANGE"……What I Believe BO's Definition of Change Is!

C = COMMUNISM
H = HATRED
A = ABORTION
N = NEGATIVE
G = GREED
E = ELITISM

"Change" is fleeting! Positive and Negative - Good and Bad. Obama's self-serving "change" born from contempt and controversy, is like a wrecker destroying in a day or two, what it took noble builders - our founding fathers - years to construct.

The tale of the sinister scorpion, mirrors BO's blueprint of deceit.

The scorpion, a poor swimmer, asked the turtle to carry him across the river. "Are you mad?" exclaimed the turtle. "While swimming, you'll sting me and I'll drown."
Laughed the scorpion, "If I sting you, you would drown and I would go down with you. Where is the logic in that?"
"You're right. Hop on!" said the turtle.
Halfway across the river, the scorpion gave the turtle a mighty sting. As they both sank to the bottom, the turtle resignedly asked, "You said there'd be no logic in stinging me. Why did you do it?"
"It has nothing to do with logic," the drowning scorpion replied. "IT'S JUST MY CHARACTER."

MORAL – “IT’S NOT WHAT I SAY, BUT WHAT I DO”
Which is talk out of both sides of his mouth.

LOVE MY USA

Rick FL   July 15th, 2008 12:07 pm ET

Once again, Obama is correct in his approach to foreign policy, addressing the real concerns where they exist in Afghanistan. We should not continue using our valuable resources in this senseless occupation in Iraq, as Bush & McCain propose. The Iraqi government does not want us there either.

It's interesting to see how many times Obama has been correct on foreign policy. He continues to be validated even after so-called "experienced" politicians offer misguided criticism (i.e. Iraq, North Korea, Pakistan, etc.). I'll take Obama's judgment any day.

LT in Cali   July 15th, 2008 12:07 pm ET

What I want to know is why McCain is suddenly concerned with Afganistan? Where was his plan before now? Why did he wait until Obama started really pushing the need to reinforce troops there?

He once again shows that Obama has shown better judgement in this situation without having had to visit.

All you Obama haters need to get off the man's back. Obama has shown more concern for the troops, veterans and better judgement than the military man.

David Goldman   July 15th, 2008 12:07 pm ET

MCMORON IS THE ONE THAT HELPED THE OTHER

WARMONGERING IMBECILE GET US HERE. MCSAME

CAN'T FIND HIS WAY TO THE BATHROOM, WITHOUT HELP,

LET ALONE OUT OF THE CRAP HOLE

HE & BUSH PUSHED US IN.

Bill   July 15th, 2008 12:08 pm ET

Mattt I agree anybody would be better than Senator Obama. I also think anybody would be better than Senator McCain too. This country is a great place to live and for the life of me I cannot understand how we ended up with two of the worst choices in American history. This country needs a President with experience knowledge on how to get this country moving again. Senator Obama will state anything to get anybody to vote for him. In closing a vote for Senator Obama is a second term of President Jimmy Carter. A vote for Senator McCain is a third term of President George W. Bush. I am old enough to remember what shape this country was in when President Carter was in office. We do not need a return to that either. We also do not need another four years of President George W. Bush either.

Please is there anybody else to vote for?

Bulldog   July 15th, 2008 12:08 pm ET

Fact finding mission? How many facts has McCain learned from his multiple fact finding missions? He doesn't even know the difference between Shiites and Sunnis. He thinks Iran is training Al Queda and Joe Lieberman of all people had to correct him three times. He doesn't even know how many troops are there. McCain shouldn't be telling anyone to get facts until he can get them right himself.

Jan From Boca Raton, Fl   July 15th, 2008 12:08 pm ET

Obama dosen't have a clue of what he's talking about. He takes his
lead from his speech writers. God help us all if he is our next President.

Rico in Arkansas   July 15th, 2008 12:09 pm ET

IF ANY REPUBLICAN OR WAR ADVOCATE COULD SPECIFICALLY DEFINE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHAT "WINNING IN IRAQ'" ACTUALLY CONSISTED OF MAYBE WE COULD GET ON BOARD.

OCCUPYING DOES NOT EQUAL WINNING AND REPUBLICANS ARE ALL ABOUT WINNING EVEN WHEN THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT CONSTITUTES A WIN.

I WAS ALWAYS TOLD, IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE FIGHTING FOR DON'T FIGHT.

linda from South Dakota   July 15th, 2008 12:10 pm ET

sonds like mccain is quoting bush,, ummmm anything to get the election,,,,, mccain stick to the issues(if you can remember) gooo obama08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OBAMA BACKER   July 15th, 2008 12:10 pm ET

This statement comes from the guy that still can't get his countries right. He quoted a country that hasn't existed for 15 year and I'm to believe that foreign policy is his strong suite. Please thats one of those things that if you say it enough then we will start to beleive it.

sh   July 15th, 2008 12:10 pm ET

What do expect from an senior citizen who still thinks war in Iraq is ok. Iraqis are going to treat us the same way they treated Allawi when they booted him as he ran from the mosque to save his life. What a disaster that would be. Matbe by that time Shell, Cheveron and Mobil got all the contracts for oil and USA soilders will be protecing them and MCBUSH will still say we are going after the terrorist not oil. Wake up voters throw these senior citizen trying to run our life by imposing war on us and we cannot even afford to fill our gas to go to work. VOte for change.

Obamination   July 15th, 2008 12:11 pm ET

Senator Obama once again demonstrates he is an empty suit.

Nice shell but no substance.

McSameMcCain on myspace   July 15th, 2008 12:12 pm ET

Gramps McCain is unfit to be president.

Peter of Oregon   July 15th, 2008 12:12 pm ET

John Keating 5 McCain: Bomb, Bomb, Bomb… Bomb, Bomb Iran…

We already know what his military policy is.

EMJ   July 15th, 2008 12:12 pm ET

My plans better than yours! Nu uh, my plan is the best…

ANGIE   July 15th, 2008 12:13 pm ET

mccain is clueless the only reason bush mccain and the republicans dont want to get out of iraq is OIL OIL they dont care about making us americans safe they are oil men like hillary said its time to get the oil men out of the white house DEMS UNITE UNITE NOW TO STOP THIS MADNESS!!!!!!!!!!!

DOH!   July 15th, 2008 12:13 pm ET

This, from the man that confuses Shiites and Sunnis? This, from the man that needs Joe Lieberman whispering in his ear to correct his mistakes?
This, from the man that thinks singing "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Iran" is a JOKE? This, from the man that thinks joking about killing Iranians with cigarettes is appropriate?

THIS IS THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT?

Now THAT is a joke.

Ms. D   July 15th, 2008 12:13 pm ET

Mccain can rip all he wants because the truth will set him free!! The truth hurt and everything Obama said is correct!!

Rob   July 15th, 2008 12:14 pm ET

Obama never paid any attention to the war in Afghanistan or Iraq. he never attended any briefings about it neither. he never cared. why is he now? oh yeah, because he can get votes. I understand.

I live in NC (Camp Lejeune) and I dare to vote for this guy. He even doesnt salute to the flag, a symbol that I would die for. How can I have respect for him…

Rob from NC.

Semper Fi

Car   July 15th, 2008 12:14 pm ET

Obama has a policy plan? That's a joke.

Randy   July 15th, 2008 12:14 pm ET

In this era of information tech, one doesn't need to go to Iraq or Afganistan to get to know the info. Unfortunately John Mc Cain doesn't know how to use a PC or browse internet to get to know the facts. He still live in 60's…

The Other Campaign Strategist from 115th St & Amsterdam Ave   July 15th, 2008 12:14 pm ET

The fact that McCain plans to "rip" Obama on his foriegn policy plan, even before he hears it, means McCain has no concept of "Substance over Sizzle".

Having just heard Obama lay out a comprehensive 5 - Point ACTION PLAN, I can guarantee you that McCain can't, with any credibility, criticize Senator Obama for " not talking to Petraus" or other leaders.

On at least 5 occasions, Obama showed how the recommendations, testimony, memos, reports, etc of Gen. Petraus, as well as the commanding General in Afghanistan, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, the commanding general responsible for training Iraqi security forces influenced his approach.

McCain can see to wrap himself in a cloak of "I know the military better than you do" if he wants to be he will look like an UTTER FOOL if he does.

To simply criticize without regard for the substance is an insult to thinking Americans everywhere. We are not mindless Mr. McCain. You've got to bring some meat to the his party. Hold the gravey …. hold the hand waving.

Roberto   July 15th, 2008 12:14 pm ET

Our country is teetering on the brink of a major economic meltdown because of Republican fiscal policies (during Bush's 7.5 years the national debt has gone from $5 Trillion to almost $10 Trillion) and people actually want a Bush clone in the White House?

How stupid is that?

Shawn, Takoma Park, MD   July 15th, 2008 12:17 pm ET

*yawn*

McSame promises to continue the most backwards and disastrous foreign policy in US history, so frankly I couldn't give aq squirt about any criticism he has of Obama on the subject. I trust Obama MUCH more on foreign policy. Period.

Praying for America   July 15th, 2008 12:18 pm ET

Everyone that thinks this war is ok something is wrong. You are looking a Obama as someone who does not know what he is talking about if you noticed Bush is listening. He has been doing exactly what Obama has been saying through the back door. America please wake up our troops are dying and our country is going to the dogs because we will not open our minds are hearts to think maybe this man does not know what he is talking about. You are saying you have to go to Iraq first before you can say that what we should do. Well what are you thinking we should do? Keep our troops over there indefinitely and what is going to happen to America. We are on the loosing end of this. McCain's wife just picked up millions of dollars off the sell of the beer company that was just sold. She was worth 100 million what is she worth now. All of you on this blog do you have a 100.00. Keep a close mind and I guarantee it is going to get worst with McCain.

Marcia Fennell   July 15th, 2008 12:19 pm ET

Worse than the thought of another terrorist attack, is what happens to the USA if Barak Obama becomes President.

God help us all, if that tragedy occurs. Amen.

Dana   July 15th, 2008 12:19 pm ET

Angie you are 100 percent correct!! McBush is about Oil Oil profits because they are already rich and set for life so they don't care about the American people!! PEOPLE WAKE UP!!!

Sylvia   July 15th, 2008 12:20 pm ET

Just like Wesley Clark has said, being a POW does not qualify one to be commander in chief. McWar has not serve in a position to make decision critical in a war as a commander. McWar will only push Bush's agenda in Iraq. Status quo and a never-ending war. Same ole, same ole.

Marie, Canada   July 15th, 2008 12:21 pm ET

Senator McCain's surge was used to put walls up in all major cities in Iraq between local citizens that will never get along.

I don't call that winning a war. I call that sticking your nose where it doesn't belong and trying to save face.

Didn't McCain make another old age mistake yesterday when referring to Czeckoslovakia instead of the Czech Republic?

His mistakes keep adding up and makes his foreign service experience argument look bad.

Praying for America   July 15th, 2008 12:21 pm ET

Everyone that thinks this war is ok something is wrong. You are looking a Obama as someone who does not know what he is talking about if you noticed Bush is listening. He has been doing exactly what Obama has been saying through the back door. America please wake up our troops are dying and our country is going to the dogs because we will not open our minds are hearts to think maybe this man does know what he is talking about. You are saying you have to go to Iraq first before you can say that what we should do. Well what are you thinking we should do? Keep our troops over there indefinitely and what is going to happen to America. We are on the loosing end of this. McCain's wife just picked up millions of dollars off the sell of the beer company that was just sold. She was worth 100 million what is she worth now. All of you on this blog do you have a 100.00. Keep a close mind and I guarantee it is going to get worst with McCain.

tanner, ca   July 15th, 2008 12:22 pm ET

The posters on this site are really pathetic. This is the worst moderated board I have ever seen. Talk about one sided… sheesh! Do you delusional people really think that these messages really reflect the views of all Americans? I'll answer that for you, no. All these boards reflect are the views of a handful of nutcases who are preaching to the choir.

NPA   July 15th, 2008 12:23 pm ET

Everybody who's got some sense knows this is a dog and pony show. There is not very much that Sen. Obama is going to find out through his visit to Iraq that he could not find out from reading the reports. Same goes for John McCain and his past visits. US officials are always sheltered when they hit the ground in Iraq.

So all this talk and counter talk is a show.

FLORIDA Voter for Barack Obama   July 15th, 2008 12:23 pm ET

LET'S CLEAR THIS UP ONCE AND FOR ALL:

O.B.A.M.A. H.A.S. A.L.W.A.Y.S. W.RI.T.T.E.N. H.I.S. O.W.N. S.P.E.E.C.H.E.S.

DO NOT TRY TO COMPARE HIM TO THAT EMPY HEADED REPUB NAMED BUSH.

David Goldman   July 15th, 2008 12:24 pm ET

EVERY MILITARY EXPERT, EVERY ONE OF THEM,

REGARDLESS OF POLITICAL AFFILIATION, HAS

EITHER IN PRIVET BUT MOSTLY IN PUBLIC,

STATED THE BUSH_MCBUSH PLAN DEFICIENT IN

EVERY WAY FOR THE AFGHANISTAN & IRAQ WAR .

BILL CLINTON FOUGHT A WAR WITH A BETTER EQUIPPED

NATION (YUGOSLAVIA) AND DID NOT LOSE A SINGLE

AMERICAN LIFE. THAT WAS SWIFT & ACCURATE & WITH

THE HELP OF OTHER NATIONS.

AND HOW WAS OUR ECONOMY? STELLAR

WE GOT HELP. BUSH & MCBUS JUST GREEDY MONKEYS

WITH THE IQ OF A POTATO. THEY KNOW TWO THINGS,

BOMB, BOMB, BOMB, & PUT THE MONEY IN OUR ACCOUNTS,

VOTE FOR MCSHAME & THE PRICE OF GAS WILL BE $10.000 GAL.

Julian   July 15th, 2008 12:26 pm ET

Obama has never said the surge isn't working or wasn't working, read the article and not just the headline

McLame = Nearing the end of an erosion cycle   July 15th, 2008 12:26 pm ET

Love My USA
Obama you are doing great its all the way to the White House /Oval Office .
For the Obama Movement just wait you ain't seen nothing like it yet the wheels are just starting to turn .
Obama dont fill town halls he fills arenas .
Vote Obama

Obama 08/2008
Yes We Can
Change We Can Believe In
Hope

Tracey   July 15th, 2008 12:27 pm ET

I have talked to someone who has been in Iraq, MY SON, and let me tell you it is all messed up over there, Obama is right all the way!!!! We need to get out asap. and win in Afghanistan. McCain needs to drop out and let America move on!!!! I want this country to always be great, but there are things going on here that need to be taken care of. The GI Bill needs to be done and the soldiers should have what they need. They have done their duty!!! McCain will not win, people are tired of the same old, same old. Lets keep hope alive and move in the direction!!!!

Anonymous   July 15th, 2008 12:28 pm ET

ALL OF YOU GOPERS PLEASE GO BACK TO FIXED NEWS SITE AND SPEW YOUR HATRED YOU ARE NOT WANTED HERE…LMAO

Edward   July 15th, 2008 12:28 pm ET

McCain just argued that the SUCCESS of the SURGE need to be replicated in Afghanistan…thatthe two arenas are therefore linked. So the 5 year mis-adventure in Iraq is now only a testing ground for the true battle?!?!

This man does not have a clue beyone fighting. Barrack is right he is talking about STRAGEDIES that we make us safe McCain is focused on TACTICS. There is a HUGE DIFFERENCE. One is visionary forward looking, the other is shortsighted.

Canadian black man for Obama.   July 15th, 2008 12:28 pm ET

McCain supporters please give me a break.

Does Mccain step his foot on Iran before he knew he have to bomb them?
Does McCain step his foot on Iraq before he support the invasion of Iraq say they will recieve us with flowers and as liberators?

McCain will think he has step foot in everwhere whereas he is losing his mind.

Old man please give me a break.
The surge of the Iraqi war working because we buyout the enemy, we made payment to lots of people who have to work with us.

We have not kill all the Enemies in Iraq Senator McCain. The Enemies are still there only we pay them to support us.

MCCain you can't fool us our soilders have worked brainlently, but they did not kill all the insurgents.

McCain is calling Obama fli flop ahhhhh!!!!
You voted against Bush tax cut 2 times before you now support it, you said you have no clue about economic 5 moths ago now you know everything about economic.

First /second of your tries said Americans cause the house foreclosure not lender. Your third try you now support help to those whom were affected by house forecolsure.

McCain fli flop before you call Obama fli flop please do yourself a favour take a look at mirror first.

Tom   July 15th, 2008 12:28 pm ET

I feel sleepy, McCain is boring

fedup   July 15th, 2008 12:28 pm ET

McLame, McBush, McSame, McWar, etc….
Interesting how all those people who are so interested in speaking of how Obama is all about hope and bringing unity are sitting here publicly calling his opponent names. A bit childish. Does Obama know how to recite a speech to people and have charisma? Yes. That doesn't mean he knows how to handle foreign affairs. By the way…if someone turned Obama's name into a joke, they'd get crucified for making a racist comment. But it's okay to do it to his opponent with no repercussion. Just a thought.

Arden   July 15th, 2008 12:29 pm ET

"And the hits just keep on coming". Now we are not only going to stay in Iraq for 100 years McCain plans to send our military without any rest or a brake to Afganistan. Just where are we going to get the money for this and what about the mess we have at home. It's not important. Well get ready folks we are heading for a depression. Sen. McCai