TO ALL WHO THINK MCCAIN IS STRONGER ON FOREIGN POLICY, PLEASE ……….THINK!

MCCAIN'S FOREIGN IS: "BOMB……..BOMB ………..BOMB IRAN!"

With $10 TRILLION DOLLARS IN NATIONAL DEBT OWED TO THE SAUDIS, CHINA AND DUBAI………… HOW WILL WE CONTINUE BOMB AND GO TO WAR??

IRAQ COSTS $1.38 BILLION A DAY! EXPLAIN HOW THIS IS GOOD FOREIGN POLICY?

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES FOREIGN POLICY MAKE WHEN AMERICANS ARE LOSING THEIR HOMES, JOBS AND SAVINGS?

GOOD FOR MOVEON.ORG FOR HAVING THE COURAGE TO TELL-IT-LIKE-IT-IS!

Not a big MoveOn fan but that ad is pretty much true.

TO: RJ, CA——Please stick that magazine where the sun don't shine. Your pathetic. Get a life and stick with the issues….if your tiny brain knows what they are!

OBAMA / SEBELIUS -08!

It just so happens that just because John McCain was a POW for 5 years, such does not qualify him as an expert in foreign policy, etc. After all, he certainly has not been the ONLY POW in existance!!! Get real people!

I'd like to see a timetable for transitioning out of Iraq. You would think McCain would have seen from the Vietnam "Conflict" that you might be able to conquer a land, but you can't conquer the people. Tens of thousands Americans dead and we transitioned out and let the Vietnamese people resume control of their country. Vietnam taught us good lessons.

As far as being a more qualified Commander In Chief, as a professional soldier McCain should have been demanding an exit strategy from the beginning. Without an exit strategy you are simply there to conquer and occupy. Ignore the desire of the people of that land you conquered. This is precisely the McCain approach for another 100 years.

While he was a POW he totally missed the last 5 years of American voter upset over Vietnam, thus McCain in 2008 fails to see American voters of the Vietnam Era aren't not supportive of occupation for.

Obama is finally catching up on the war and took off the talking points on his web sight on why the surge is not working. so technically that is NOT a flip-flop.

You can call John McCain any nasty names you want — won't work on those of us who KNOW that he is a genuine, experienced statesman and true American hero.

But what would you know about any of that? You sit safely at home while others fight the battles for you — and probably fall apart when your cell phone battery is low!

Keep it up with your dismal anti-McCain psychobabble — and continue to demonstrate that your middle name is "Idiot."

I commend John McCain for his service to this country. Having stated that, I wish someone would run an ad on his votes on Veteran's issues.

For someone who had, "been there, done that" he has done very little for the men and women who served before him and after him.

I guess this is one of many reasons a lot of us that won’t vote for him (McCain).

Sequentially, integrity is what I look for in someone running for President. Self-aggrandizement without end is a characteristic flaw that cannot overlook in anyone running for that same position.

McCain: ‘I Received The Highest Award From Literally Every Veterans Organization In America"

The recognition McCain has received from veterans groups is not "high awards" but failing grades:

Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America gave McCain a grade of D for his record of voting against veterans. (By contrast, Obama got a B+.)

Disabled Veterans of America noted McCain’s dismal 20 percent voting record on veterans’ issues. (Obama had an 80 percent.)

In a list of "Key Votes," Vietnam Veterans of America (VVA) notes McCain "Voted Against Us" 15 times and "Voted For Us" only 8. (Obama voted for VVA 12 times, and against only once.)

McSame and Judas Lieberman should be sent to Iraq to fight their war !

The Obama's campaign has alot of nerve, especially after Obama
is flip flopping all over the place about the war.

I think it's funny how we went to Iraq to liberate them and now they want us out of there.

This is a waste of a commercial especially when the "surge" is working. This is poor advertising and this will have no effect on any Independents, McCain supporters, or Hillary supporters. This add is to only make Obama supporters scream Hooray! Try again Move-on or how about you just "Keep it Move-in".

I don't know what is wrong with moveon.org. They decided to support Obama, but every time they have been criticized from the right, Obama has refused to support them. If Obama doesn't stop moving to the center, pretty soon he'll be on the right. Afterall, he already voted with Bush on the surveillance bill. I'm not afraid he's a radical Muslim. I'm afraid he's a Reagan Republican!

Allyou people quoting the Iraqi Prime Minister's call for a timetable. Do you realize this is progress??????

Good God people….Iraq is now a national security issue….was it before we invaded probably not. But it happened and now we have to fix it!!!! What happened when the Soviets left Afganistan….do any of you brain dead Obama supporters know?????????

Well, do some research if you can't guess off the top of your head. We are in Iraq now and we need to prevent Iraq from becoming another terrorist breeding ground like Afganistan became for OUR OWN SAFETY!!!

Plus, if you think the world hates us now, as all the Obamabots like to suggest….(even though all of GW's allies were re-elected) then people just think how they will feel about us if we bomb a country to shreds and then leave without fixing it!!!!

Would you people please use some common sense!!!!!!

God this country is scary

Moveon is a despicable organization. The General Betray Us ad was disgusting. Of course Obama never criticized it. McCain was right about the surge, and now Obama wants to copy McCain's strategy in Afghanistan. You don't hear many liberals criticizing the surge any more, do you? Because they were dead WRONG again. Obama has never been to Afghanistan, and hasn"t been to Iraq in two years. Without talking to the commanders in the field, any strategy he proposes is just hot air. Where did Obama learn military strategy? Law school? What a sorry, pathetic joke.

McCain is so right when it comes to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. I dont want our troops to come home thinking that we didnt respect the hard work they did to turn Iraq in a direction for the better.

Anyway, Obama has the exact same policy as McCain, which is to keep a force there as security and some that are combat ready. Exactly what McCain said he'd do and will do it as and when the generals on the ground say so.

What is so wrong with making a decision based on the circumstances. Do we buy a house if we can't get a loan? If the car needs new tires, we don't take a long trip until we get new tires. All John McCain is saying is that we need to let the situation and the circumstances determine the best course of action.

Right now the Hamas has joined the Taliban in Afghanistan. That means that we need to strengthen our troops and change some of our tactics there. Iraq has become more stable. I'm sure that this development will allow us to bring some troops out of that country.

When we make decisions of troop deployment that are set in concrete, that only allows our enemies to plan and plot accordingly. That not helping our national security.

Does Move on realize that Obama has now backed away from a timeline?

If George Soro and his fellow liberals at MoveOn.org are against something…, then I'm most likely for it.

MoveOn just needs to knock it off.

Obama 08

Just bring them all home already.

"Endless war means big bucks for folks like Haliburton [keeping a slush fund for Shotgun Dick], Blackwater, KBR and other war-profiteers with no-bid contracts handed to them by Dumbya and his evil cronies. McSame wants to continue bankrupting America by continuing these policies…

HEALTHCARE NOT WARFARE! BRING THEM HOME!!!"
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Bob, your nothing nut a hippie, strap on a uniform and be a real man. Haliburton is the only company that can do what they do and they have been getting no-bid contracts for decades– Including from your vision of love- Bill Clinton. Haliburton takes great care of the troops overseas, inlduing feeding and providing housing to us troops. And beasides that, from my two and soon to be three tours in iraq, 90% of the Us armed forces there beleive int he mission and don't want a rapid withdraw… sure we want to come home but we dont want to go back again and we dont want you peace-sign toting weenies to get killed in our place.

All you folks who hate Bush and McCain still have to admit we haven't had another episode like 9/11 happen since Bush took the bull by the horns. If Obama gets in, chances are, he'll offer the same type of foreign policy that emboldened the terrorists to begin with. Face it democrats, you don't have a clue how to win the war on terror. Keep in mind, many of the things you want to defend, ie. abortion, gay agenda, pornography, etc.are major reasons we are under attack by these "religious fanatics". How about some truth in media CNN?

All you folks who hate Bush and McCain still have to admit we haven't had another episode like 9/11 happen since Bush took the bull by the horns. If Obama gets in, chances are, he'll offer the same type of foreign policy that emboldened the terrorists to begin with. Face it democrats, you don't have a clue how to win the war on terror. Keep in mind, many of the things you want to defend, ie. abortion, gay agenda, pornography, etc.are major reasons we are under attack by these "religious fanatics".

I enjoy the idealistic and naïve view point of those who believe the “world” is a safe place because they don’t have any one blowing up buildings on their street today.

Those are the same people who don’t study or pay attention to the mistakes of history. Putting your head in the sand and bringing our troops home before the region is stable leads to more problems for the USA.

The flip-flopping policy patterns created by Obonga style politics would “enable” and strengthen our enemies.

What Lefties seem to miss is that the US Generals working in the Iraq theater have started talking about “meaningful” troop removal due to the progress that has been made. McCain is not opposed to troop removal but thinks he needs to have a more informed and intelligent plan based on facts and with the input of the General and Troops in Iraq.

I agree Nik.. When I have to pay 10,000 just to take 7 college courses with no aid, and a war that have killed so many (including a few family members) I say let's go with the add.

Obama '08

McCain gets praise for his military service, but no military soldier wants to do 3 and 4 rotations in Iraq. I am a child of a former military officer who served 21 yrs in the Army. Families are torn apart, and soldiers have mental issues when they return from war. I have been witness to this in my life time.

John McCain wants to win what? You cannot win in Iraq. What are we winning? We need to get out and have a withdrawal plan to leave. This man is too old to lead this country. He is old school, and like many people on this blog does not want change. Well, like Obama or not he will be the next President by a great landslide.

We need an intellegent person for President, not another McBush!

where's Moveon's ad for Obama? this guy is moving more center and left by the week. I can see the suckup he's doing for the votes.

Okay - Iraq is not McCain's only policy. Take a look a his speeches and websites to find out his real ideas. As for Iraq- we can't leave there unfinished. Also, no one can predict the future of Iraq. Which is why McCain made a comment on 100 years. We need to leave Iraq stable- its not stable right now and McCain is unable to predict when it will be. McCain will finish the job in Iraq- he know's what it is like to be a POW and in war. He has seen it all on the front lines, which Obama hasent. He doesnt want to be in there - but he can't surrender.

Vote McCain!

McCain's children are fighting in Iraq, are any lib politicians children over there?

Remember when lib would cry all day about how Jenna and Barb need to be fighting in Iraq? Since McCain's children are fighting for our freedom now the lib has totally abandoned their former way of thinking and so called belief. Yes folks, the lib democrat is this slimey, hateful, selfish, mean, partisan, and misguided. No, republicans are not saints, but they are much better people than libs. Dig further if you want to see the truth, compare the red and blue counties of America, the picture is very clear when you review the facts.

Polls Said:

"People lets not forget 9/11. These are terrorists who came to our country and tried to destroy us. Do we coward down to them or do we stand up and fight."

I agree with that, but today's foreign policy says that we have forgotten. Does anyone sincerely believe at this point that Iraq was about the war on terrorism? & Let's be reasonable, don't u think the Iranians understand that a nuclear war means their own obliteration? Is our president so arrogant to think that he is the only one that understands the consequences of nuclear war? Afghanistan is where the war on terrorism was/is. We got distracted b/c Bush wanted to make up for his dad not taking out Hussein to begin with and because he is an Oil man. Getting out of Iraq (which the Iraqi's want too, btw) and refocusing on Afghanistan is not being cowardly. It is re-establishing resolve in accomplishing a mission (and that's without the stupid 'mission accomplished' banner).

As a member of the armed forces, and having been in Iraq let me sum up what we are indeed doing in Iraq with a metaphorical phrase and question:

Saint Louis, Missouri has one of the highest crime rates in America. They have the highest drug manufacturing rates and one of the highest violent crime rates. Their high school drop out rates are among the top ten in the nation, and their education standards were so low they have state apponted leadership in many schools.

In many ways the city of Saint Louis is like Iraq.

The military personel in Iraq are like the city and county police in Saint Louis. They do their jobs on a daily basis, but from the outside (from people who do not live there) Saint Louis, while have some problems, is a thriving city.

Now for the metaphorical question: Should we send all the police in Saint Louis home because "The job is done?"

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WANT GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE HERE IS A THOUGHT FOR YOU, NAME ONE PROGRAM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT RUNS THAT ISN'T SCREWED UP. AND THIS IS THE SAME GOVERNMENT YOU WANT TO RUN YOUR HEALTH CARE!!!!!!! FOR GODS SAKE PEOPLE WAKE UP AND QUIT LOOKING FOR THE GOVERNMENT FOR ANSWERS, THINK FOR YOURSELVES. THE GOVERNMENT ALREDY TAKES WAY TO MUCH MONEY FROM US LETS NOT GIVE THEM ANYMORE POWER, THEY ALREADY HAVE TO MUCH.
AS FOR THE WAR ON TERROR I HAVEN'T ALWAYS AGREED WITH BUSHES POLICY OR THE TACTICS ON THE GROUND, BUT ONE THING IS FOR SURE THE TROOPS AND MARINES ARE SACRIFICING MORE THAN WE CAN KNOW FOR US AND THEY AND THEIR FAMILIES DESERVE AND DEMAND OUR UNFETTERED SUPPORT. WHEN THE JOB IS DONE THEN THEY COME HOME AND THEY WOULD BE THE FIRST TO TELL ALL OF YOU THAT.
GOD BLESS THE ARMED FORCES AND GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!

@JustSayNObama…not true…actually he has always held the same positions. Obviously you know how to use youtube…LOOK IT UP

Mcsame wants us to know that every military, legislative, diplomatic, economic or social crisis we have had over the last thirty years would have been solved by him if he were POTUS because he is a Naval POW, a long serving US Senator, and his wife is a filthy rich heiress to a beer company. What more could anyone want? whooooooo!

If the Iraqi government wants us to set a timetable for withdrawal, and we are supposed to be on their side, who are we to question that?

And wouldn't the so-called "success" of the surge strengthen the case for leaving sooner?

LISA, your comment just told me you did not take your medication today you are like the one you support you are flip flopping McCain said we would be there 100 years not Obama, no wonder you support McCain you probably don't even remember nothing he saids, but nor does McCain. AND why would you support someone that has very little respect for women, talk to his first wife.

Obama 08

It's about time! The Democrats need to hammer McCain with his numerous flaws every chance they get. One of the posters (Dianne) was taking about people's irrational, illogical thinking when it comes to the 2 candidates. If these mixed up voters would listen with thier eyes closed to both candidates they would be able to see the right and logical solution. GET OUT OF IRAQ !!!! Obama 08

All i have to say is this. It's fine that you dont like McCain, but let the Democrat into office and he will do just what he says CHANGE and when that happens All you people that voted for him will wish you hadn't . Mark my words. He will CHANGE the economy and US into Disaster.

McCain would bomb Canada for their syrup and bacon if he were president. That's how his mind works: Conflict? Bomb!

He's forgetful, doddering, infirm, frail, mean-spirited and uninformed-

Do we REALLY need another idiot spaz running the country? So if you want more wars, and fewer jobs, vote McCain

Lisa …… Moveon should take aim at Obama for telling the American people he was leaving Iraq in 16 months when he knew in heart we will stay for 100 years. That's not considered Flip Flopping that's lying.
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Lisa get your facts Straight …….YOUR Friend McWar said 100 years
Mr Obama said he would start withdrawal within 16 MONTHS
you are a SICK PERSON or just big Liar !!!

I think it's this simple:

Iraq wants us out, let's leave.

Our economy (wether imagined or real) is falling apart, let's fix it.

Health care needs an overhaul, anybody want to do that?

Federal loans for college students don't just need a lower interest rate, but a higher borrowing limit, who's with me?

Oh, and lastly, the 'party' system has failed, let's just try electing people (just people, not parties) and see what happens. Anybody think that may go better? It sure as hell couldn't go any worse.

I really feel bad for Senator McCain. He was a war hero and a good Senator, but now he is too out of touch. The fact that he supports Bush and often appears confused is very sad. I wish him well, but I will vote for Obama…

Did anybody notice how the RNC's response to MoveOn implicitly acknowledged that Obama is going to wiin?

All the opponents of Obama can do is sling around labels. They are dead in the water when it comes to actually making a rational argument, and they know it!….so they toss around commmie, liberal, left wing, crazies, etc……

sounds like the pot calling the kettle black to me.

Do any of you left wing cry babies have a clue about anything but your selfish self center stupid ideas. Osolamamama is going to tax you out of your life. If you want the government to wipe your butt then he's your man. If you want your money for your family you need to rethink your politics. Read rather that base your opinions on news or moveon and idot organiztion.

Why must people older than 5 descend into name calling? You don't like McCain, fine - certainly your decision. To act like a child and call him silly insulting names is below the adults interact.

By the way, "McBush" as some called him was despised and "swift-boated" by Mr Bush in 2000 - do you really think they like each other?

As to moveon.org - it's time they move on. They are as much a polarisxzing force in the country as any Right Wing think tank, and should go to way ot the It may be entertaining to watch them push the radical agenda, but remember, Americans have long memories and eventually they will be on the outs.

Okay, there own President wants a timetable withdrawal!! What do we have to do for Mccain and Bush to understand?

It doesent matter what old positios were. the NEW position is, the Government of Iraqi wants a time table. Their position should be respected.

Listen, if the leader of a "soverign" (so called) country is asking the occupires of their country for a timetable for there withdrawl. THAT"S A PERFECTLY REASONABLE REQUEST! If the situation were reversed and the US was the country being occupied we sure as hell would want the occupying force OUT ASAP! Looks like the things Obama has been advocating for are coming through!

OBAMA '08

Sometimes a comment forum such as this provides valuable perspective as to current issues. More often than not though it devolves into ranting and screaming, none of which is terribly thought-provoking but probably affords the ranter a bit of respite. An easy way to skim through the comments and ignore the ones not worthy of my attention has been to skip past any using the Democratic candidate's middle name or those referring to the Republican candidate as "McSame," "McBush" or McAnything except his actual name. A simple difference engine could probably be written to filter out the dregs and leave worthwhile comment intact. Maybe some coder could donate that to the public good.

It's time to get dems and repubs out of the White House. Vote Libertarian!

THE MCCLUELESS FOREIGN POLICY IS FOREIGN TO HIM

JUST LIKE THE ECONOMY. HE HAS WORKED ALL WE WEEK

ON NON EXISTENT ISSUES OF A COUNTRY THAT HAS NOT

EXISTED FOR ALMOST 16 YEARS.

If you want to learn how Obama is NOT the "fresh, new" politician, go online and read the entire New Yorker Magazine article. But of course the Obamabots won't — much easier to "swoon" and believe the emperor has new clothes!

Move-on is right to take on John McSame.

John, go home. You could use the rest.

Obama has been RIGHT with everything!!! War, economy, infrustructure rebuilding, jobs!!!! From the beginning, 2 years ago Obama said it was Afganistan!!! People listen to the man!!!! He is brilliant and has great insight!! Nationally and with foreign policy!!

Moderated comments…I can tell. . .

Obama is a fool and presumptious to believe that his four years of experience grant him the ability to make a judegment call on Iraq or any other foregin affairs issue. Streets of chicago don't qulify him for that, does it?

McCain is realistic, not idealistic. You can't give a solid time table that isnt based on facts…OLD people realize that I guess.

I am a Democrat that actually agree McCain on his position on IRAQ. A time table should not be set, but instead a set of goals must be met before the withdraw of the troops. We should be there until the job is done. Great thing happen when America win wars. For example Japan and Germany. Even South Korea you can't compare to it to North Korea or Vietnam. If we lose the Iraq war, because we quit then we should just disband the Military. What the point of having soldiers when you won't let them win the war? Whats the point of spending billions of dollars for the military, if we won't fight? This won't be the last war that we fight, but if we go into future wars witha losing track record how proud do you think our troops will be of their military? "We might win a the war" instead of "We will win the war"?

Lorna, I know you're a big liberal intellectual (actually an oxymoron), but the word is "stumble" not "stumple." Really, CNN, you should administer literacy tests to these people.

This is more proof that a president that has served his country in Armed Forces is a better candidate, a time table is the DUMBEST idea. Lets tell the enemy that hides as civilians hey we are leaving on August 7th they might put off all activity until August 8th. I believe in freedom of speech but you people should take the same venom to the Dem congress that 2 years ago promised we will get us out of Iraq, what did they do nothing but make things worse and point finger at the current administration and you want to give these jerks the presidency, and the congress?

\Wow Diane you quoted Obama's misspoken words to the elite of California

Ya, Neocons! Mcbush! warmonger! Bush causes cancer and so will McCain!… ignorant posturing makes you look, well, ignorant.

Sometimes it's just too amazing to see this power of denial some people have, this refusal to accept the facts, that we could have limited resources and can't fight two wars at the same time, that the Iraqi people don't even want us there, that to "win" we need to help the Iraqi government take over instead of insisting to stay and get our soldiers killed.

Of course this "surge" is working. Who doesn't know you can kill all street crimes if you fill the street up with cops? But what happens when we can't keep the troops there any longer? Haven't you heard how "fragile" and "reversible" that surge result could be? do we intend to keep our troops there? Oh wait McSame did say 100 years "if that's what it takes".

A simple search on youtube and you can easily see McSame claiming how easy the war was gonna be BEFORE the invasion. So much about his military experience.

MoveOn.Org hardly represents the American people. It represents vegertarian pacifists who want to see America in decline. We have been so, so bad we deserve all that is befalling us. As usual, we will weather the storm, win in Iraq, win in Afghanistan, and these mountebanks will have to crawl back into their little hole, out of which they poke their noses every four years.

Our troops are being used as hit men to increase the wealth and power of the industrial/military complex, the Matrix, who are systematically destroying our democratic republic, our Constitution. McCain is their man.

I thought Obama asked the MoveOn.org/527 NOT to run attack adds?

I don't think this add is helpful to Obama, because a MAJORITY of Ameriacans do NOT support a time table.

We are evenly split between staying until conditions merit a pull out of U.S. troops (McCain) v.s. pulling out troops based on an arbitrary time line (Obama).

They should at least get the facts straight!

Moveon lost all credibility when they endorsed Obama. I was a Moveon supporter but left the group when they made that endorsement. What a bunch of ya hoo's !!

McBush is just another George Wrong Bush…..

America, imagine if we didn’t spend $12 BILLION each month for an unwarranted war in Iraq? Imagine if we continue to spend $12,000,000,000 EACH MONTH as McCain is intending to do?

McCain, I know you said you don’t know much about the economy in America but it is in bad shape and will be getting worse. To begin with we would like to have some of that money back in America!!!

Why should anyone be surprised when the McSame policies are shown as wrong.

CHANGE IS COMING!!!

THE SENILE OLD DUDE HAS NO CLUE, WHAT OR WHERE HIS

POLICIES OR HIS SOCKS ARE. THEY GIVE MCCLUELESS

THE INFO & THE SPEECH & HE FORGETS THEM IN FIVE MINUTES.

THE GOOD THING ABOUT IT, IS THAT, A MONTH AFTER HE LOSES

HE WON'T EVEN KNOW HE RAN.

Moveon.com's antiwar advertisements are some of the most poignant, intelligent and well crafted I have ever seen. Like many in the advertisements, I did not raise my sons to be killing machines at the beck and call of elitists politicians whose children never see the front lines. No, John McCain, you can not have my sons!

This is not about Move-On, this is about America's integrity. We had countless opportunities to get out of Iraq on our own terms.

The American people demanded it, but those corrupt GOP politicians, making millions in defence contracts for their surrogates, want the war to go on forever.

We have overstayed our welcome. We now face the prospects of being kicked out by the government and people of Iraq. McCain, Bush, Cheney and company have brought ignominy upon us as a nation.

Something I've noticed-
A big portion of the republican's attacks on Obama say that he constantly changes his stand-point on so many veiws (and i believe they said the same thing about Hillary Clinton as well)
But now we all attack McCain for keeping his original stand-point on the war (which don't get me wrong, I hate this war and I want us Out, ASAP)
So I guess what I'm saying is I wish the republican's would stop using the whole "they continue to change they're stand-point" bit because if they recieve new information that is crucial to they're opinion, then they probably should be changed.
And now McCain's recieved a request from Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki that they set up a time-table for the troops' withdrawl and he refuses to change. personally, I think McCain's just being childish and stubborn, and that's bad for the (could be) oldest future president.

All this nonsense about "the surge" has to stop. "The Surge" did very little, in and of itself to change things. Of COURSE there was slightly less violence IN BAGHDAD because there were more soldiers on the ground. But the rest of the country is still a series of strongholds run by local warlords (and no, I'm not confusing Iraq with Afghanistan). Even Sadr City is the domain of a warlord. The surge is only a temporary patch. The "surge" did not work in the long term. What is needed in Iraq is a strategy and plan for long term peace. NOTHING like that has been developed. Bush and his buddies seem to think if we just put enough boots on the ground, and get enough Americans killed, somehow everything will be OK. What NONSENSE. The solution has to be political and social. This is NOT World War II. The rules have changed since then!

yes we can take America back.

Moveon.org annoys conservatives because they want a monopoly on public discussion. It drives them up the wall that people dare to disagree with them. You know, other folks can buy a megaphone too, it's called democracy.

The real problem is not that McCain is old, it's that he's stupid. This is becoming increasingly clear.

John McCain is a buffoon and a Bush puppet.
MCcain=Bush!!!

McCain destroyed a total of 5 US aircraft during his time in the service. 4 on training runs, the other he was shot down. John McCain my hero!!!!!!

Ah Maliki, you too! Even our puppets, whose existence depends on our presence there, speaks against out presence. There is something wrong with the ventroloquist.

END THE WAR IN IRAQ

OBAMA/08

Voting for McCain is voting to approve $12 bucks / gallon of Oil
Why?
1. The world don't like McCain and america will be Isolated and the dollar will be much more weaker
2. He wants a permanent base in Irak in order to attack Iran latter

Voting for Obama means Less that $3 bucks a gallon
Why?
1. the world loves him and will put more trust in the US
2. With his energy policy the market will change attitude and the price will drop.

Remember the UP and down of the oil price is First POLITICAl (Fear of diastabilization of middle east) and Second ECONOMICAL (supply and demand)

Finally a Moveon ad that doesn't make them look crazy or irrational.

There was this old gentleman some time ago.He was rich in his youth.He spent on the little comforts of life.He was strong in his youth.He fought at the slightest reason.Times changed.He lost money and his persoanluthe war weas eating upon his savings.But he still refused to give up.Instead of medicines when he needed them,he bought a new sword.His friends advised.Little would he hear.
This is america today!Friends let not the gentleman kill himself with the sword.Let not pride and arrogance conquer logic and reasoning.

Obama 2020

Big war guy, veteran….

*votes against the gi bill*

Veterans for Obama.

Moveon rules. It's about time someone started exposing these right wing lunatics for what they are.

We only want to help all of those poor, downtrodden people in all of those countries where the U.S. has been the bully bad person! We Americans should be ashamed of ourselves!

We need to get out of everywhere and let these poor people have a quiet, peaceful life. We all need free medical care - there are enough rich, working people and successful companies that really want to pay for everyone to have the good life.

We need the government to support all of those people who can't get a mortgage to give them one!

All of those doctors getting rich from Medicaid need to give back that money! No more rich doctors!

We need radical change in the White House! Free everyone in Guantanomo!

We need organizations like MoveOn to keep us on the correct path (Not the right one)!

Vote for Obama and ObamaMaMa! They will give everyone everything for free and have the BIG oil companies pay for it…. even if the top 13 oil companies are foreigh owned….)

Yeah…. right!

McSame doesn't want the US to leave Iraq. If we did, we would lose control of their government and oil which is why we went in there in the first place.

Hmm I was under the impression that moveon.org and CNN were part of the same organization. They sound the same, make the same accusations and seem to have the same writers.. oh well, my bad.

Will rethugs consider withdrawl? Probably not because I think that there are oil revenues at stake.

I hope Iraq attempts to privatize thier oil industry. Then the gop's true colors will show.

As far as I know moveon said no to shutting down. I guess somethings are more important. Like getting a person who has morals in office.

I work hard and pay taxes for what? So McCain- as president- can waste my money on bombs- and gasoline that is badly needed in our own country? Our infastructure is cumbling here. Our border's defenses are weak here. The old divored man needs to retire. He's as ancient and antiquated as his ideas are. Obviously he must have enjoyed his days in Vietnam and being a tortured POW as he wants as many other young men and women to experience that as possible. His position shows how much he really hates this country and its citizens. He won't be happy until we've all suffered the POW experience directly or indirectly as he did. It's time to put domestic policies first, not foreign policy. I'm sick of the federal government putting the citizens of other countries first instead of American citizens. Let the world grow up and take care of themselves for awhile. Republicans should be wiped out of existance in November!

Stupid, senseless and without any intelligence. The media and people in general who think they know everything know nothing. The media should not be running this war. That's just like a ten year old child telling his/her parents how to invest the family money…….the future would be dim for this family. We cannot run and just abanndon Iraq; are you not smart enought to know what would happen: waiting in the wings is Iraq who would love to just take over Iraq, have more militants and terrorist camps there and take over the entire Middle East. Look what happened after the Soviet's defeat in Afganistan. The West totally ignored that country and it was taken over by radical clergy and terrorist and we then had 9/11. We should have gone in as Congress talked about and built schools for the young to teach them democracy instead of how to be a suicide bomber.

McCain knows the tragedy of war… Obama doesn't.

Obama's made up his mind, before ever visiting….

Obama sold the left on "immediate" withdrawals, completely out in 16 months no matter what… and is now pandering to the middle… changing his mind… his website….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sj91NH5fvw

Wingnuts refers to the conservatives who've been drinking the Bush cool-aid for the past eight years. McCain's Iraq policy is the same as Bush's–he thinks it's Vietnam and we have to stay there and win this time. Victory however, is a hard to define term–the neocons have failed to explain what victory means exactly. If you have no goal, you don't have to worry about a timetable to complete it.

Instead of obsessing over trivia like time-tables, we should discuss the key issue.

When are we going to admit, to ourselves and to the world, that the beacon of freedom and democracy is guilty of war crimes?

It's time to turn Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Powell over to the International War Crimes Tribunal. We can make them promise to use Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure and Federal Rules of Evidence.

But we should let the international community prosecute and adjudicate our collective guilt and the individual responsibility of our leaders rather than insisting on being the judge of our own cause. And if their pursuit of the guilty runs to Congress, so be it.

I love moveon.org….Why are we still in Iraq even when the Iraqi Prime Minister is demanding a timetable…

Obama opposed the surge. He has continually refused to meet with our Generals on the ground. He said the surge wouldn't work and Obama wanted to leave in the middle of the so called, "Civil War" that was taking place in Iraq.

If we would have left before the surge, Iraq would be in chaos, gas would be $10 a gallon.

He thinks he won the war in Indochina!

moveon.org provides excellent humor concerning communist viewpoints.

21st century McCarthyism will get them! The French are the only ones intellectually challenged enough to still embrace the insanity of Communism.

It seems that McCain supporters are just as confused as MCain and the RNC are. The Iraqi's want us out, we, the majority of Americans, want out. If the surge has succeded then it's time to leave. I can see how loving Bush and McCain like they do, they don't know what an intelligent leader would look like.

We need to get out of Iraq now! As for Mcsame,there is still room at the senile home for him, he should get there as soon as possible.

I don't understand why the News Agencies aren't asking Mcsame why isn't Iraq paying for the military costs? They are he 2nd largest oil country and sitting on one trillion dollars in US banks. The 600 billion we have spent should be spent in USA on infastructure and Health Care. Bush goes down in my book as the worst President in US history. And Mcsame is no different, and too old to be President. I doubt he will live though a four year term.

Notice how the people who support McCain and Bush and this war can only come up with very short hate filled responses. It amazes me how people dig in and cling to their ideology no matter how irrational it is. Then it turns to hate. This is the same mentality as terrorists have. They aren't thinking through how to solve a problem and create peace, they are just filled with hatred and use circular thinking that goes nowhere logical.

I really wish the right wing nut jobs would think up some new insults. "Commies" was old when Czechoslovakia split into two countries. But then again Republicans never seem to get the memo. Probably because it was in an email.
I would just like to really hear what it is that makes these nutbags think they have any right to claim they are stronger on natioanl security than Obama. They sure have no track record to brag about or anything other that bluster and blow hard rhetoric. Basically it's "I'm better becasue I say I am". And the scared little Republicans buy it like sheep. I sure hope you never go near a used car dealor because those guys will talk you gullable idiots into anything!

Hahahaha yaaaaa McCombover!

Now that's security!

McCain is just another Goldwater, anybody remember him? We all thought if he was elected, we'd have another major war. And we would have. McCain says he will never surrender (with a look in his eyes that could freeze anything) and while I believe him, I fear it will cause the wars to expand into a major world war. And we don't need to do that, we need to become a kinder, gentler nation.

Violence is down in Iraq not because of increased troop presence, but because the U.S. is increasingly letting the Iraqis take care of their own security. Accelerating this effort will improve the security in Iraq and reduce the number of U.S. combat deaths. It will free up combat brigades to go into Afghanistan to deal with the unfinished business there. We "won" the war years ago. Now, we need to leave the battlefield and help Iraq rebuild itself.

Bob, Kim, You both are dopes that cant think for yourself.

NEVER NEVER VOTE FOR A LIBERAL DEMOCRAT!!!!! = SOCIALISM

McCain made an error in judgement voting in favour of invading Iraq and has to maintain a position of staying there to save face. It's that simple.

There was nothing to be gained by invading Iraq, there is nothing to be gained by staying in Iraq other than boosting the profits of the elite the invasion was designed to do in the first place.

Unless you're an idiot all you have to do is look at how McCain conducts himself in comparison to Obama and McCain comes off as a confusing and tired old man.

The last paragraph is a lie. Obama has said nothing about immediate withdrawal.

I usually don't care for MoveOn's tactics, but they are correct here.

Right on MoveOn. Billions of dollars spent on the wrong front. McAddled wants to step up pressure on the CCCP to stop messing with Czechoslovakia's energy resources.

Rumors abound that McMoron has found the Bermuda Triangle, the Fountain of Youth, and the lost city of Atlantis.

Moveon should concentrate on promoting Obama and his policies and not tearing down McCain.

We can not bury our heads in the sand and elect another republican. That is obvious. So, we should concentrate on why Obama will be an excellent president not why McCain would be bad for America - that is obvious to all.

On this mornings news they said Bush representatives will go to Iran to talk with their Government. Hmm kind of , sort of, exactly like Rock Obama said we should.

If people were really paying attention, they would stop believing that McBush is stronger on foreign policy. He wholeheartedly supports the same foreign policy as Bush….create wars and steal from poor and give to the rich! McBush is a backwards Robin Hood. Don't trust what the conservatives are saying about him being a known, reliable person you can count on. I don't know him to throw him and from what I hear of his policies, I am confident that we cannot allow this man to run the country!! About your speech on education to the NAACP, where he will say blacks are at the wrong end of the spectrum when it comes to educational opportunities…..well, duh!!

BETTER GET OUT BEFORE THEY MAKE US GET OUT
THEY DO NOT WANT US THERE MCSHAME
BARACK THE VOTE !!!

McCliar you say you know how to win a war. Then why are we still in 2 wars? You have been in Washington for over a quarter of a century and all your experience and good judement and leadership has done is get us to this point in our lives. Now you want to be President . You are a joke! But GB was elected twice so maybe that gives you hope. What a sad state of affairs. And by the way what war did you ever direct and win? You are a warmonger and a liar. Perfect match for the Rebublicans

I'm so excited that after 7 years we have something to smile about–Barack Obama. He's doing a fantastic job and I can't wait to have a president that I trust in the White House.

McCain just might keep your children from having the threat of nuclear war over their heads. The extra pressure now, on Iran, just may be the straw to break their nuclear back. Stand strong American's. Let this play out. Obama is dead wrong.

Oh, and by the way "Take that idiot MIchael Moore with you"

This a great opportunity to fix what was wrong in the first place. The Iraqis want to run things so lets let them do that. The world is no safer because of our presence in Iraq. We need to make progress in Afghanistan and regions of Pakistan. Obama is the man that wants to do that so lets let him by voting for him this November. I thank McCain for his service and feel bad for his painful and horrible time as a POW. I believe the best way for McCain to serve his country now is to let the younger generation take it.

Good, somebody should.

Obama 08

What Iraq Policy? McCain doesn't have a progressive policy to deal with the Iraq crisis or the evolving crisis in Afghanistan. McCain says that he knows how to win wars. Please! McCain has support Bush's ridiculous foreign policies for nearly 8 years. This should give all reasonable and intelligent people a BIG CLUE on who McCain is going to "win" these two wars. Obama has put forward very detailed strategies to deal with both conflicts, and people may agree or disagree with the details of those strategies, but at least there are details to talk about.

Every sane American should be taking aim at Senator " Questionable Conduct " McCain's Iraq policy !! Not only is it insane, it is President Bush's insane policy. It is easy for him to commit young men and young women, in uniform, to this insanity. He doesn't have to go and fight President Bush's insane war and occupation. Besides, he is to busy entertaining the Lobbyists and their train of bagmen. America doesn't need another President Bush, two were more than enough. They made an absolute mess over in the Middle East and these same Republicans are begging America for another 8 years. To do what? Make America sicker and poorer !! America, if you vote for the Party of Incompetence, than you deserve the bad government we have and will continue to have !!!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE AND WHOLE. NOW.

I hear all these people whining about a war for oil, and how only companies profit from it

then they turn around and whine about high gas prices and being laid off

here's a hint, from the REAL WORLD

in order to make gas prices go down, we need more oil!
it doesn't grom on a magic tree in fantasyland

in order to keep your jobs, companies have to make money!
that is the purpose of a canompany. not to give you a job, but to make money. as they make enoguh money, they can afford to give you a job!

I know i'm going a little fast here, but it seems like 85% of the people commenting on these articles cant seem to accept anything except what they're told from their Obamessiah

Lol. I'm a mod Dem, so I don't always agree with moveon but they have a point here. I personally would like billions of dollars to be "wasted" on us.

Move On is comprised on Millions of Americans. Regular folks like you and me who are sick of the B.S. Is that so hard to comprehend? or is it more fun for folks like Paul etc. to just refer to them as Commies, as if that wins the argument. How sad.

MOVE ON WHY DON'T YOU JUST UP AND MOVE ON. NO ONE REALLY CARES WHAT YOU REPORT ANYMORE. YOU ARE LIKE OBAMA. ALL MOUTH AND NO BODY.

Everyone Wants Us Out Of Iraq Except Mccain! Mccain Lacks The Judgement To Know Better!

MoveOn should do just that. Loser liberals!!

First McCain said Obama was irresponsible for saying he would attack Al Queida in Pakistan if their was solid intelligence. Since calling Obama 'irresponsilbe' our miliarty has attacked Al Queida 4 times in Pakistan.

McCain calls Obama naive and reckless for wanting to set a timetable to get out of Iraq. The sovereign Iraq government demands we set a timetable.

McCain calls Obama reckless and an appeaser for saying he will sit down with leaders of countries unfriendly to the U.S. 3 months later the U.S. successfully appeases and negoitiates with N. Korea ('axis of evil') and they begin to dismantle their nuclear plants.

McCain and Bush call Obama an appeaser and irresponsible for saying he wants direct diplomacy with unfriendly countries rather than threats of war. Just yesterday the State Department announces they are sending a top level official to Iran to sit down and have direct talks.

Who has the judgement?

John McShame = Double Talk Express!

Oppps!, sorry………Forget My Brain on The Floor Express!!!!!!!!!!!

Way to go moveon.org! I am tired of Faux news, Rush and the rest of the unthinking. I am truly tired of Bush and republico-fascist rule. the biggest reason that congress has such low poll numbers is because they don't have the guts to throw these SOB's out of office and take the government back.
I am certainly not voting for McCain, he is older that dirt and the last old geezer we had in office ended up with alzheimers and displayed symptoms the last few years of his administration. Not that McCain would but sheesh people. Let's quit pouring dollars into Iraq and prop up the folks here at home where we need it.

As a 2nd generation American with a grandfather from Yugoslavia, I can tell you that I STILL call it Yugoslavia. All of you pandering over McCain calling the Czech Republic instead of Czechoslavakia are really reaching. And for Deb, he is planning to have the troops out of Iraq in 16 months, with removals every month. That may seem gradual, but it is a pretty quick withdrawal. We'll see what happens with Iran once we are not there, but if any of you think that Iran isn't determined to wipe Israel off the map, you need to a) go read their leaders' comments over the past few years and b) go and read the Bible history to see the roots of this hatred. Of course, most people don't want to read the Bible, though…Obama needs to himself as he tried to tell people they should.

The Swift Boat Is Coming For You Mccain!

Every poll in this country reflects that the vast majority of our citizens clearly wants our troops out of Iraq.

McCain isn't listening to us. We want OUT, McCain.

Your "Flexible" definition of victory isn't playing anymore.

I don't think McCain or Obama want to be in Iraq.

McCain also said on multiple occasions that our troops should only be in Iraq as long as the Iraqis want them there. If the Iraqis are asking for a timetable for us to get our troops out of their country, what on earth is McCain thinking to refuse them?

I have one likely reason for McCain's refusal to honor the request of a formally recognized SOVEREIGN NATION to remove U.S. troops from their soil: a large continued troop presence Iraq is necessary, together with using the "surge strategy" in Afghanistan to the north, from which to surround and "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb - Bomb, Bomb Iran".

It's not hard to figure out - so why not just come out and say it?

ps
obama has nothing to do with moveon and has asked them in the past to not throw dirt, so this has NOTHING to do with the obama campaign whatsoever

As far as I am concerned the Moveon organization can just move on right out of the country and into Iran then let's see how well you BS goes over there!

They might be extreme but their comments are right on in this regard. If the Iraquis want us out, what the hell are we still doing there…

all mshame wont to do is bomb and tell ape jokes

i love moveon!

Lets not be a country of whinners "VOTE OBAMA 08″ and see the foxes tuck their tails between their legs and run.Then all of the haters will be smiling and want to be your friend.

Hey Kim from Dallas, why don't you be specific and lay out what parts of McCain's agenda are vindictive. Oh and let us know what it will be like to cast a vote for Obama in a state that will go for McCain anyways. Thanks!

Oh I forgot to add that John McC thinks that Checkoslovakia is a tiny island next to Coney Island where checkers players go and hold daylong tournaments. All day long- cries of check- check- check.
So please lay off of the guy.

Whatever you may think of the ad, they have asked for a timeline for withdrawal and the U.S should give them one. What is Pres. Bush waiting on - my guess is until after November.

Not usually the biggest "Move On" fan, but in this case, I am glad they put out this ad.
When the Iraqi's and the Iraqi political leaders have said that they are ready for us to make preparations for leaving, McCain sure looks ridiculous insisting that we stay.
How much war does he want?

The war in Iraq was created and market by the current Administration and sold to the American people. Reality says that it was a bad decision…..America leaped before it looked……Continuation of the process, when it is evident that circumstance on the ground are unlikely to change, is to continue feeding a disease. A timetable, and Iraq has requested it, needs to be established and we need to start reposturing our troops back home. The Iraq war was a bad foreign policy investment and diplomatic failure and it is time to accept our losses and recover.

IF McCAIN IS ELECTED PRESIDENT, HE WILL INVADE IRAN WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF HIS ELECTION.
WE WILL BE IN IRAQ AND IRAN FOR 100 YEARS, AND AMERICA WILL BE IN DEBT 30 TRILLION DOLLARS.

Where do you get these figures from considering I have never been contacted as to how I feel about the war, economy, healthcare, etc?

People lets not forget 9/11. These are terrorists who came to our country and tried to destroy us. Do we coward down to them or do we stand up and fight.

More research on energy, getting people working and off of the welfare system which was not meant for a life time, and the rising cost of healthcare needs to be resolved. Giving everyone free healthcare is not the answer. Who will pay for the healthcare is a question I would like to have answered.

Education is another issue that needs to be addressed. Schools are for teaching kids not a babysitting service. People its free, get a better education will get you off the streets and off of the welfare system, guaranteed.

Look at the issues and what each candidate stands for and then cast your vote.

mcsame is an stubborn old goat who will stay the course because he has to make sure the oil construction continues being built so that Cheney, Rumsfeld and Haliburton can profit off of it. That's the deal mccain brokered with bush to get them to support his bid for presidency.

It is greed pure and simple, that why mccain wants to stay in Iraq. That's why they cannot explain what success is in Iraq. They can't tell the american public the truth because is too cold and calculating, not to mention illegal.

McCain implies that his military background gives him the superior knowledge to understand the complexities of war and national security, yet he has poor comprehension of ordinary technology such as the internet. He talks about his early push for a surge like as if he came up with this inventive approach to the Iraq war, when Military leaders including General Clarke said the same thing. Also, He also made numerous analogies to WWI in a condescending manner like as if only he knows the answers and everyone who disagrees is an idiot, when there is in fact the lack of commonality between today’s situation and that of WWI make the analogies he made a farce. I question weather he is capable of understanding the complexities of today’s war on Terror. He proudly takes up the torch to continue the arrogant Republican approach to combating terrorism that has only strengthen our enemies, diminished or domestic freedoms, and drained our revenues.

"Stay in Iraq, stay in Afghanistan, go into Iran."

thanks, tony, for actually posting some sense.

october surprise, folks. don't be one of the ones suprised.

Moveon.org does little to foster debate and eventual compromise between the right and left. That is the major problem facing American politics today, the inability of either side to listen to the other. They hide behind clever and witty insults, but fail to offer a valid alternative to the status quo.

If we want to make America better, we need to work together. Tripe like this does not help.

Someone needs to do a short movie of all the gaffes from McCain since he has been running for president. I think the man is senile (nothing against the elderly). I cannot stomach hearing him speak. Both he and Bush stumple every time they speak!

The RNC are out of their mind! If the surge worked, get the troops out. We dont want Iraq to be the 51st state of america so lets leave it alone. The RNC are the biggest hyppocrites in the world.

Also, Obama put out his strategy for ending the war before today, you idiot republicans.

What policy did he every really have, besides stay in Iraq? First they say oh Obama is too naive and inexperienced he doesn't know what it takes to have a successful foreign policy. Then McCain flip flops on his own policy ideas and tries to almost carbon copy Obama's plan. Which back fired because he had to clarify himself 3 times yesterday. So much for the experienced foreign policy leader claim McCain had. Kinda looks like follow the leader these days.

Its Time To Bring The Troops Home And Give Them The Care And Benefits They Deserve Mccain!

McCain seems to think being locked away from civilization for years entitles him to POTUS.

We cannot let that man anywhere near the "button". He is a war monger just like the current folks. Control thru fear.

TO: Kim of Dallas, TX

I'm ashamed to say your even from my city after that post you just left. McCain is his name. He is not a war monger, but rather someone who wants the job COMPLETED before we start pulling troops out.

These CNN blogs are so frustrating with the constant posts slandering the presumptive RNC candidate. You can call him McBush, McWar, McOil, McDonalds, whatever you want, just please be sure to call him Mr. President after he's sworn in next January.

So should we start calling Obama my stupid 2nd grade names? Or even call him by his given name of Hussein? This is why we can never have another Democratic President, too many wackos out there!!!

What wars has Senator McCain won?

Putting up walls, barriers and checkpoints and using over 150,000 soldiers to separate religious factions within their own communities is NOT WINNING A WAR. It's not even making good use of the military.

Most people would agree that if strong diplomacy doesn't get Pakistan to remove the Taliban and El Queda forces and Bin Laden from it's northern region then the 150,000 soldiers in Iraq would be much better served to do the job and get this over with.

I dont know but did anyone else get whiplash watching Obama erad his speech yyesterday? I look at one moniter I look at the other. side to side , left then right. I wonder if he really knew what he was reading……………….What are his real veiws. thats HIS not the speech writers…