Is this supposed to be an insult? I mean this is coming from a guy who's health care has been supported by our taxpayer dollars his ENTIRE life (and that's a long time).

Be STILL (FOR HILL): If you want affordable healthcare for your kids and not 4 more years of bush/mcCain policies, vote Obama.

McCain is a tried and true supporter of unregulated corporate health insurance, where the c.e.o.s reap hugh bonuses, rates go up faster than inflation and people are cut, denied and tormented by the insurance industry.

If you agree with Hillary, you agree with Obama, since their views are 90 per cent the same.

——"My friends, we've seen this movie before," McCain said. "It was called 'HillaryCare' back in 1993, and we're not going to do it again. We're not going to have the government take over the health care system in America."——-

Can a true democrat vote for this guy ? really ?
McCain't doesn't have any solution for health Care, no solution for the war in Iraq, no solution for economy, how can we vote for a guy with not a single solution to solve our crisis ?

I suggest everyone thinks 2 times, before voting this Nov.
This is not an election about a candidate,, this the election about solving our problems, whether we're democrats or republicans, we're all suffering the same crisis (of course except for the wealthiest among, and McCain't wants to give them more with his tax cut policies…)

People, think before you vote, that's all I ask you…

This from the man who has recieved quality free government health care all his life!!!?????

OK, McSame your point? What is yours called…RICH and DA health policy

Thank you Clinton and Obama for sharing a health plan for us the 98% of us that's not rich or married to someone with LOT'S of money.

Obama 08

mccain, is really scared Obama has doubled mccain's fundraising for the month of June. yea!

All of you hillary and mccain supporters, eat your heart out.

mccain is mcsame =mcshame

And with Obama and his ilk, another brick in the nanny state will be laid. And then we'll be Sweden. Whoppeee! We're all going to die–of boredom.

"July 17th, 2008 3:48 pm ET

For those who know P.U.M.A, we will stay home and not vote!!! We rather see Obama losing, than see him without Hillary on the ticket. Less people will vote to Obama, more chances, he will go back to the Senate with his head down!!!
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YOU SURE ARE SO IGNORANT

Everyone should read Andrew's post - he LAID IT OUT THERE for you all!

Why should McWar care about the 48 million plus and growing Americans without healthcare? He wants all the money he can get to promote wars instead of helping his fellow citizens. I know McWar has a wonderful healthcare plan and it is free, so why should he care if millions of Americans go without medical care? I wish I had the authority to take his healthcare plan away from him…I am sure he would be singing a different tune. As for abortion rights…why is it that these old guard republicans feel the need to interfer in women's rights? McWar will have a fight on his hands with this one, American women will not return to the days of coat hangers, and don't think that concept is far fetched…it isn't. Stay out of women's right to choose you do not belong there nor are you wanted with your caveman mentality.

PUMA is a Karl Rove invention. Nobody who took Senator Clinton seriously could support McCain. She has made that clear and she will continue to do so. I do wish that Turnabout is Fair Play would find another candidate;he's making Obama backers look like intemperate hot heads. Fortunately, he doesn't speak for either Obama or his organization!

I love the hillary care comment… Obama won't even have to try to unite the party with comments like that, just let McCain do it for him. Obviously he does not realize that her health care plan was a major reason why many of her supporters happened to have supported her over Obama. Now he is doing the work for Obama and stating the obvious… that Clintons plan and Baracks are pretty much the same. Thanks McCain!!

GIVE ME HILLARYCARE OVER BUSHCARE ANYDAY!!

Actually Hillary herself would have to disagree. Hillary's healthcare plan involved "mandates" unlike Obama's plan which involves healthcare at a cheaper premuim

I don't see all of the Hillary supporters on this site today.
Freida NYC where are you? Have you heard, McCain
is bashing Hill. Are you in the meeting with Carly?

Mcsame, if actually elected by the special interest voting machines and the purging of the democrats from the voting rolls as in the last election. Will still be nothing more than a puppet in the White House for the GOP party just a s Bush is. Any one who votes for 4 more years of the bush legacy deserves what they get. We would prefer another choice, such a s Obama.

SO Whats your Plan then MR. McCain? As if the Healthcare industry was not struggling, now your saying it would be a government takeover!!?! Im sure with your barbie girl wife of yours and her botox treatments, you guys have no problem seeing doctors huh??

I URGE EVERY MCCAIN SUPPORTER, CHANGE YOUR MIND BEFORE YOU MAKE THE WRONG DECISION, WE NEED A CHANGE,!!

IF YOU THINK MCCAIN IS ABOUT MORALS, RESEARCH WHAT HE DID TO HIS FIRST WIFE!!! CAROL MCCAIN. HE LEFT HER FOR CINDY! WHY U ASK? AFTER SHE HAD A HORRIBLE ACCIDENT THAT LEFT HER DISFIGURED HE LEFT HER TO DRY!!! AND YOU THINK HE CARES ABOUT YOU!?! BUT YOU DONT HEAR THIS ON THE NEWS!! wHY? BECAUSE HIS CAMPAIGN HAS ALREADY MUZZLED HER! SHES NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON IT! RESEARCH IT IF U DONT BELIEVE ME!

McCain… I like you enough to vote for you, but don't go bashing Hillary's policies. We already had to listen to these Obama supporters bash her for over a year. Keep it up and I will just write Hillary's name on the ballot in Nov.

Oh, Hillary, where are you? Two losers running for President. I wish all those people who benefited from all the work you did to ensure their kids have healthcare would have voted for you, but they voted for a speech instead of substance.

why these posts only confirm how misinformed the american public really is. our healthcare is pathetic compared to other socialized developed nations. true we lead the world in medical innovation, too bad nobody can afford it. why is anybody making a profit off of healthcare, its dispicable. just think of this, everytime an HMO pays out they consider it a "medical loss" and actively pursue to minimize "medical losses." providing healthcare isn't a loss, unless your filling your pockets with the difference. we need to cut out the middle men, mainly hmo's

Better than You're-On-Your-Own-Care. Does McCain even HAVE a health care plan?

Rick July 17th, 2008 3:50 pm ET

Hey Obama, keep your grubby mitts off of my healthcare. You already want every nickel that I make. Now you want to tell me who and where I can go for my health care? Why don't you go back to organizing kickball games on the playground instead of trying to play with the big boys.
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Hey retard, you need to change Obama to McStain, I think you're attacking the wrong person in this blog. Obama would help you ya idiot, McCain will ruin your healthcare. If you value what little you have left, stop the hate and think with your brain and not your emotions otherwise you have only yourself and those "PUMA" idiots to blame.

it is known - her plan was /is better.

Lisa July 17th, 2008 3:49 pm ET

This is the #1 reason I voted for Hillary instead of Obama. Obama has absolutely no health care plan what so ever. Everytime ask an Obama supporter what his health care plan is not one person can explain this to me. If there is someone out there that can explain his plan please inform me. The only answer i ever receive is look at his website. Looking at his website does nothing for me, it's all talk and no substance just like the candidate Barack Obama.

Hillary wants health care coverage for every American Obama does not!

Hillary 08
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Lisa July 17th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

For Michelle Obams to be a wife and a mother, she should know that all American need health insurance.

I'm well aware that her and her rich friends and supporters have excellent benefits but it's not about her and her friends it's about American people.

So Michelle if you knew how to handle your household you should tell that stuck up Husband of yours everyone needs medical insurance.
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You REALLY need to let it go with Hillary bitter woman. IT IS OVER FOR HER. You can want and want all you can but it will not change and the nomination in August will seal the deal once and for all. You need to telling your Michelle story to Cindy McCain, it fits her better than Michelle. Michelle is handling her business like a real woman and mother, YOU should do the same instead of constantly spewing this crap and pay off your queen's debt. We got into this healthcare mess because of Repugnicans going hand in hand with Big Business, NOT because of Democrats.

On another note, How are you attacking Obama in this blog when the person this blog is about is McCain and the fact that he is indirectly attacking Hillary through Obama!! Boy, you've got bitter on the brain lady.

Ok PUMA Billary lovers….wut ya sayin now?….:)

Elizabeth Edwards is working on this healthcare plan. This is her area of expertise. Get a grip McCain! If Liz is working on it, is is a workable plan

Clinton Supporters for McCain-Ohio July 17th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

We, former clinton supporters, are supporting John McCain because he is devoted to protecting america! His healthcare plan is better than Obama's! I promise you, come November 4th people will be so amazed on how Clinton Supporters won McCain Ohio and Pennsylvania. People do not see it now but they will and I cannot wait to vote for John McCain!
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You truly are a clueless retard. Obama and Hillary's healthcare plans are almost identical with the exception that Obama's plan does not make coverage mandatory and Hillary's does, whether you can afford it or not. You REALLY don't have a clue as to what the hell you are talking about, just spewing someone else's recycle crap. IDIOT. PLEASE vote for McStain, we don't want your sorry vote in the Obama Express Train.

i really don't understand where people who claim that europeans and canadian come to us for better health care got their facts. that cannot be farther from the truth.
people in those countries have good quality health care. they also do not worry when they get sick because the government made sure they will be taken cared off withouth even thinking about it. it doesn't cost them an arm and a leg.

People, Please stop insulting Hillary Clinton supporters

DEMOCRATS UNITE!!!

YOUR RETARDED!!!!

To Obama supporters who are still using vile, venemous, taunting language towards those that support Hilary - remember, he too will suffer if 50% of Hilary supporters vote the other way - and it is not just John McCain who is in the ballot.
So stop being so cocky for you guys might be the laughing stock come November.

Hilary had the best healthcare plan along with John Edwards. Too bad these two are out of it.

There really is a meaningful difference this year between the two men vying to be president.

One wants it so badly that he lied about his intention to run.
The other was willing to sacrifice it out of love for his country.

And, in the final analysis, it is that difference that makes all the difference. All the difference in the world.

This is why I will never vote for Mccain. Will talk a good game but turn on hill supporters in a minute. No way Mccain.

I do not care how people get good medical care. I don't care if it is through physicians in private practice, government clinics, employer clinics, corporations on a fixed fee contract, or if we hire the Canadians to run our health system (Canadians love their system by the way).

The goal is for Americans to get preventative care and medical treatment for any health problem. People in this country are dying from lack of medical care. More and more of us will find ourselves in the situation of being unable to afford care for members of our families. More and more families will be choosing whether to treat the wage earner or the children because they can't afford both.

All of you less gifted individuals who talk about "socialized medicine" but have never read a book on socialism and cannot define it need to close your mouth and listen for a while.

McCain, by the way, has a terrific government sponsored health plan. That guy hasn't paid a penny for medical care or prescription medicine since before he went to Viet Nam. He deserves it, but so do you and I.

Truth be told HillaryCare is a hell of a lot better than McBush Care!

It's ok for us to spend billions of tax payers dollars on a war that is not protecting us or helping us in any way. Your talking billions of dollars a month to the war in Iraq. But is it not ok to spend billions of dollars to have health care for children in the united states. He is one heartless man. Even if the plan did not cover all adults, I would sleep better knowing that all children in the US could get medical treatment reguardless of how much money is in their wallet. I live in a state were 48 % of the population lives in poverty but yet in order to go to the local hospitals you need to park in the hospitals garage that requires you to pay a fee of up to 24.00. These helpless people need to decide whether their childs medical need is actually an emergency or should they buy tonights dinner. I am glad MCstupid is not my Friend.

At least Barack has a plan and Hillary Had a plan Elmer Fudd!!!!

All you PUMA idiots can go to hell.

How frightening, Republicans in charge of healthcare, which amounts to take two aspirin and don't call me in the morning because I'm playing golf with the insurance CEO's.

McCain is the great uniter (smile) well every time he speaks we Democrats unite… even the Pumas can not stand for this….. And folks vote for the future Roe vs. Wade will be over turned if McBush get into the office and that is simply wrong…

Thanks McCain for letting all those Hillary supporters know how you really feel about her!

What about the care for the veterans that he voted against? This man is a joke.

What does he care, he's got Cindy's millions.

I'd rather have Hillary Care than Bushcare, which is nothing.

PUMAS:
This is the man you want to run your country !!!
No Health Care Plan
Opposes abortion
No coverage for birthcontrol
No exit plan for Iraq
BOMB, BOMB, BOMB, Iran
Senior Citizen who colletcs from the government
BARACK THE VOTE AMERICA !!!
McShame Is TOAST

hey does guys does Mccain get a senior citizen discount for advertising on T.V ?.if so he could save his campaign a lot of cash…

Abortion is such a non-issue. The republicans had the entire White House, Senate, and House of Reps — literally, control of Washington — for almost 8 years.

That's the situation they would need to do anything about abortion — and they did absolutely nothing. They had their window, and blew it. What makes any Republican think that abortion is an issue in this election? As if McCain can magically do something alone, that an entire Capital Hill of Republicans and a Republican President working together couldn't do?!

Wake up. It's time to realize the issue is about getting health care to those without — and the way the economy is going, that could be YOU any day now.

It's time to realize we need a candidate that doesn't accept money from big oil and drug companies. Face it, it's time to vote Democrat this year.

Obama '08

This 72 year old fool, is acting like a 5 year old he has nothing to run on but name calling, and some people want this man to be president. I would rather have Hillarycare then another bush type goverment, and thats all that mccain offers…

BARACK THE VOTE!!!!!!!!

BARACK / SEBELIUS 08

READ VOTERS

If you all like the way things going high gas,high food,loss job,loss homes….

You should vote John McCain

When Bill Clinton was president you had more money,food price low, house was cheap……..

You should vote OBAMA

OBAMA policies the same as Bill Clinton 250,000 or less that is 95% of you usa people will not get tax and will get a tax break.

McCain policies the same as BUSH im not sure what you will save.

Don't let Talk radio fool you read there policies on there web site.

Also even if you don't like OBAMA vote for his policies.

And if your a woman you in truble with McCain policies, good luck ladies.

VOTE SMART PEOPLE

Why Sen. McCain loves talking to small group of senior citizens instead of large audience with mixed age? Come on senator! You are running the president of the USA. If you are elected, which seems almost impossible, do you want to give your State of the Union Speech in a town hall meeting?

Follow your leader Hillary Supporters.
McCain is throwing Hillary under the bus.
Barack didn't throw her under the bus,
he is lifting her up.

mccains healt care plan is called MCBUSH HEALTH CARE!!!!! HAHAHAHAHHA MCCAIN YOUARE A CLOWN BRO

Abortion is such a non-issue. The republicans had the entire White House, Senate, and House of Reps — literally, control of Washington — for the most of 8 years.

That's the situation they would need to do anything about abortion — and they did absolutely nothing. They had their window, and blew it. What makes any Republican think that abortion is an issue in this election? As if McCain can magically do something that an entire Capital Hill of Republicans and a Republican President working together couldn't do?!

Wake up. It's time to realize the issue is about getting health care to those without — and the way the economy is going, that could be YOU any day now.

McCain said “the most extreme record of any member …..”

McCain, what happened to your straight talk? You are sounding more and more like Fix News.

If this nation had "HillaryCare, we would be much better off. McDrain is receiving the equivalent of the top-of-the-line HillaryCare; however, he is unaware of this fact or he is too selfish to admit it.. Since he is so wealthly, he can afford to pay for his insurance coverage out of his pocket. McDrain has insulted Hillary's supporters and all Americans who do not have health insurance or are on the brink of losing the
coverage that they have. Just say "NO" to Senator John McDrain. He is not the answer for America. Hillary supporters! Today McCain revealed his true feelings. He wants your votes, but does not respect one of Senator Clinton's most important policies. Same on McDrain!

"Hillarycare" is that supposed to be humorous?
My father retired at 60. Cobra and other private insurance plans were unaffordable. So he has to roll the dice until he is eligible for medicare at age 65 and utilize savings for minor medical issues should they arise. Unfortunately, he has recently been diagnosed with an obstruciton of the pancreas and needs surgery.
Blood panels, he had 5 at $800/per test
2 inconclusive ultrasounds- $2000
1 MRI $5000
The surgery itself, well we been quoted the bargain price of at least $100,000. 401K, Reverse mortgage, credit cards will all be used. I never saw him miss a day of work in his life.
Please think. These issues affect real people in ways we can only imagine.

We already HAVE universal healthcare. To say we don't is like saying we don't have universal Diet Coke, universal Cheetos, universal cable TV, universal Hondas or universal Gap t-shirts. It's all there, it's all available, it's all "universal" for you to purchase.

What we DON'T have is a sugar daddy to buy it all for us, or rather, a nanny state to wipe our noses and butts for us.

Simple, if you want something… buy it. If you can't afford it, well, you need to determine how important it is to you and decide HOW you're going to buy it. (Here's a hint… it's called "sacrifice"… I know it's not a word many of us are familiar with, but it's one we need to learn… "let's see, go to my doctor for a checkup, or put some spinning rims on my hoopty?" Also known as "priorities.")

At least Obama has a plan! McCain't just criticizes Obama on everything. Bush administration then implements Obama's plan and McNoplan ends up looking like McClueless!

There you go PUMA and Hillary supporters for McCain… he's mocking Obamas plan by comparing it to Hillary. There is your great candidate of choice. Only a misguided idiot would vote for McCain.

McCain's health care "plan" ought to be called "Who Cares?"

That's your candidate, right "PUMA?" (pun intended) Many of us had already figured out your operation whatever it is Limbaugh tells his minions to do.

McCain represents the status quo on many failing issues, including healthcare. We need a new direction this time with mutual policies important to both Clinton & Obama supporters.

Hill was devoted to providing affordable health care to EVERY American.

Obama isn't. His plan just gives it away to a few and lets those who can afford coverage continue to opt out.

No improvement.

McCain would be bush's follower if he became president, and I don't like a lot of obama's ideas but he's better than McCain.

write in "RON PAUL" 2008, the only hope for america.

To all of you commenting about waiting lists. I would like you to do some research.

In the UK the life expectancy is longer than in the America. It is also longer in Canada, France, Austria, as well as, most of Western Europe. So I guess something must be working right? It is really easy to say everything is great when you have health insurance, but I'm sure the tens of millions of Americans who don't have covererage beg to differ.

I'm for UNIVERSAL health care- as per HRC.

But I am not for Obama's brand of socialized medicine that is NOT universal.

Everyone should be covered or noone- no more of the chaos we now have where a few are paying the health care burden for the many.

In the Neherlands we have univesal healthcare and its working like a charm. We all get good basic healthare for 130 euro a month per person (including gp and specialist/hospitalcare, dentist etc.) AND we can buy additional healthcare from the insurance companies if we choose to do so. This way we can even afford private clinics, even if you only make the average income.

If a person cannot afford the basic package based on their income the taxoffice subsidises them. And we are in no way heading for bankruptcy as a nation. The cost of healthcare is high, but at least our government thinks its people are worth every cent.

People matter more then money or dogma, it is time the US government realises that and truly acts on it instead of bashing people over the head with their own ideology….

And what is wrong with that McInsane?

Hillary's plan actually WAS universal- and made sense.

Obama's plan is NOT universal and is no better than what we NOW have- pay for it, or opt out and let others pay for your care.

THAT STATEMENT FROM MCCAIN WITH THE REMARK QUOTE"
HILLARY CARE" IS JUST WHAT WILL SINK JOHN MCCAIN
S CANDIDACY. ANY DISPARAGING REMARKS ON HILLARY FROM SENATOR MCCAIN VILL BACKFIRE ON HIM AS HE WILL SOON SEE.
MCCAIN DOES NOT HAVE THE SUPPORT THAT HILLARY CLINTON HAS AMONG CORE AMERICAN VOTERS.

Great post BULLDOG

OLD FOOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and anyone that votes for this LANDMARK is a FOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am so glad to hear that Senator McCain has said the health plan is Hillary-care……So maybe you Hillary Clinton followers can finally see that this man is not for you. The Real Issue is Senator McCain is for the Republican way that has brought us: reduced or zero medical coverage/Corporate Bankruptcies-Bears Stearns/ Corporate deficicits-Merrill-Lynch/ Bank Failures-IndyMac/Katrina in New Orleans (5 days to respond)/No Child Left Behind (some city school districts with 50% or more drop-outs…..guess who has to pay for them to live (welfare) or they commit crimes or they are not trained properly (illiterate)…./more foreclosures/higher and higher gasoline prices/ predatory lending due to little or zero monitoring by this administration/ no end in sight for the Wars (Afghanistan-Iraq)/ infrastructure problems (Minnesota-Iowa-Illinois-Missouri)/ etc. etc.

My fellow Americans, let us not forget that due to the gasoline prices, food prices and inflation has increased…….

And some of you want to vote for Senator McCain!!!!! Be real and stick note the issue, Senator McCain does not support health care for the average American and now says he will not support HILLARYCARE!!!!

Obama has money, and is spending to woo voters at places where he has nevr been before.

Umm does it mean, more the money, more votes you get ?

That is the stupidist comment that has come from McCains mouth. Obama's health care plan and Hillary's plan although simular are different how sturctured. Atleast Obama has a plan for America, where as McCain wants to leave it alone for the market to handle. Also he failed to vote on the latest Medicare Bill that effected 40 million plus seniors and countless active duty, reserve and retired Military personnel as well as millions of children. That is an example of how much he cares about our well being and health.

Gary:

You fall in that 28% of haters. Sad.

So let get this clear You Hillary supporters you say you vote for McCain and not Obama were just been given a back handed slap in the face.Obama and Hillary are closer to each other than is John McCain . The light blub was invented so thatwe can see out of the darkest John McCain comment should be a light blub over the head of her supporters

As a former staunch Hillary supporter who has supported Obama feverishly since she dropped out, I hope this makes my fellow Hillary supporter friends who want to vote for McCain realize how crazy that is!

Oh Sen. McCain, if you want to win Hillary voters, this is NOT the way to do it. I hope he keeps making more of these mistakes and being rude to Hillary, it will help us Dems even more!

Barack Hussein Obama is a left wing nut job.

Hillarycare….and he is what you Obama haters are choosing in default…….this guy doesn't deserve that default vote……he is mocking ths goddess HRC……..SHAME ON YOU JOHN MC PLANECRASH

Obama health-care plan does what McCain health-care plan does: Leave people without coverage. In case of Obama approximately 15 million people. Hillary Clinton has a plan for all Americans. All as in 100%.

This is why Obama would love to have her as Secretary of Health, and why she should decline. She won the popular vote, 18 million people bet on Clinton. Obama's offer for health was an insult. He represents the industry who invested millions and millions to stop Hillary in 1993, and who did it again 2008. Using the Clinton name to wash a bad plan and try to capitalize on political trust that come from a lifetime of commitment on this issue. Clinton saw throught the Trojan horse for what it was, Obama has to come true and offer VP or nothing. McCain is just stupid to remind us.

Clinton will beat McCain senseless.

Three words: McCain voodoo economics

My friends: I'm losing it. Good night.

Yawn,
Obamites: "Mcsame", "Puma", "Change",
Yawn,

Obamites, your simple little minds need some new material. Better have MoveOn implant some more into the empty suit Obama's head. Then he can use some pretty words to implant them into your sheep brains.

no comment,texas trail dog?

C;mon, Sen. McCain. You don't expect him to come up with something all by himself, do you? Have you noticed, with all his donations, he still BARELY comes out ahead of you? He was losing to Hillary, which is why the DNC had to fix it for him. Why do you think he hides whenever it's time for a town hall? NOO ONE in his camp wants him to talk without a teleprompter! The man is a PUPPET!

So let me get this straight,Hillary and Obama have a lot of views in common and that's bad, yet McCain and Bush have a lot of views in common and that's good???? I really say this guy has dementia, maybe he needs a new report from Czechoslovakia.

Our access to healthcare in this country is a disgrace. There is no need to innovate here, most industrialized countries have a superior healthcare system to ours. All we have to do is copy the best one. I worked multiple part time jobs for 10 years with no health insurance and no way to afford even a doctor visit when I was sick. Even rich people can face financial ruin if their health goes bad in this country. It's rediculous.

PUMA's rejoice. McCain LOVES and respects all of your platforms especially on Healthcare whichis the candidate you claim to loves claim to fame!

Obama '08

TX

Some people are getting Universal Health Care and Socialized medicine confused. They are not the same!!!

Many companies leaving US and moving their factories to China and elsewhere cite Healthcare cost as one of the main reasons. If McCain takes away the tax credit for companies who provide these benefits to their emaployess, it will only make more factories to close…

So if McCain wins; I am investing in Shipping companies, since nothing will be made here and everything will need to be shipped from China.

This guy simply has no idea what he's doing.

The goal of the "Liberal Left" is a European Socialist/Welfare State and Obama's Health Care Plan is the next step to Universal Health Care/Hillary Care. But you need to ask yourself why the social elite/wealthy in Europe/Canada and these Communist Counties come to the USA for their medical treatments for serious illnesses and major surgery? Is it because their systems are not quite as good as they say? The 85% of Americans who are willing to pay for insurance will have a drop in quality as the US Military did with the drawdown and Bill's HMO program for their families health care.

Has anyone hear much from PUMA lately? Have you all seen the new ad for Planned parenthood with McCain's response when asked his Opinion about Viagra being covered by health insurance but not Birth Control Pills? I hope the Clinton supports who say they now support McCain actually take a look at were Mccain stands on Women Rights. If they really were for what Clinton believed then there is no way they could support McCain.

I sure wish Bill Clinton would clean up stupidity in the US before he tackles malaria in the rest of the world.

Fewer repukes would be very very nice.

Of course it's Hillarycare……everything Obama has come up with has come from Hillary's ideas……BTW if everyone had listened to Hillary in the 90's, our healthcare problems would not exist today.

She's so smart

What does McSame call his ?
'Tough luck care '?
Not that he has a plan anyway, but all his worthless,senseless mouthing has been in the direction of major profit increases ffor insurance companies and pharmaceuticals.
I hope HIS plan will treat his senility.

SO AGAIN!!!!! His solution is (drum roll please) "Let's DO NOTHING!"…..Let's do nothing to solve the health care crisis. Let's do nothing. That's his plan. Do nothing in Iraq, do nothing on health care, do nothing on our dependence on oil, basically - he thinks everything is going along fine and we should just "stay the course".

Most of the PUMA's don't care what McBushes policies are…they're just prejudiced an not voting for a black man no matter what. Pretty sad state of affairs to sell your soul to the Devil to try and prove a point:(

NC man,

If GVT can't handle anything right, let us privatize Marine, Navy and Air Force too. I don't think republican controlled governement and republican commander-in-chief have any clue about how to fight a war and national security. So let us privatize those three armed forces to Halliburton, Boeing, Raythean. Let us also fund our armed forces privately with IndyMac, Freddie Mac, Bear Stern, Hedge Funds….

You dump republican fool.

McCain knows that the only way he can become President is to discredit Obama. I was watching him today and he brought up again that if you want your taxes raised then vote for Obama. But that is only if you are making more than $250,000 and most of the people behind him did not look like it. He also brought up that Federal Gas Tax Holiday he keeps talking about. I thought it was 18 cents a gallon but he has raised it now to 25 cents a gallon. That is not going to save much. For every hundred gallons (even at the 25 Cents) would only be $25.00. For most of us we don't use that much a month. If any one else was watching did he sound horrible (sound wise)? I could not decide if he sounded bad or if there was something wrong with the sound system.

@LISA….i just donated $100.00 to Obama in your honor, thanks for having the ignorance to inspire. you BaROCK girl.

@typical white person, i am a bit confused by your name….i know a lot of white people not one of them is as idiotic as you…how are you typical

Obama put Hillary in charge of a universal health care plan. Take care of your people's basic health issues and they will love you for ever - real change!!!

It works in Canada and other countries around the world. Not only will the people love you but employers will benefit as well.

A government’s first obligation is to the health and welfare of their people.

We were shocked in Canada when McCain couldn’t answer the question about birth control. WOW he looked like a complete idiot. How can he have any plan related to health if he does know the basics. Where was his advisors?

The clip keeps getting shown over and over again in Canada as example of “how stupid you can be and still run for president” of the US.
In fact there is a cruel joke going around but it is a bit harsh albeit the international image of America has been seriously tarnished by his feeble response.
How did he get this far??

CNN see if you can keep McCain off the air. Around the world he’s making America look bad!!! They keep showing the clip over and over again…

I wish McSame would stop addressing people with that stupid line "My Friends……………."

so pumas.how do you like your man mccain,now?idiots

Of course it's Hillarycare……everything Obama has come up with has come from Hillary's ideas……BTW if everyone had listened to Hillary in the 90's, our healthcare problems would not exist today.

Words to Hillary Clinton supporters voting for McSame.

"See the love."

Gee, I thought McCain loved Hillary now? Why now bashing "Hillarycare"?

McCain BETTER THINK BEFORE HE OPENS HIS MOUTH!
I am a Democrat, a Hillary supporter who planned to vote for McCain but he better get his facts straight.

Maybe in 1993 she proposed Universal Health INSURNCE BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT SHE PROPOSED THIS YEAR.

She was Universal HEALTH COVERAGE NOT INSURANCE.
THE GOVERNMENT WILL NOT CONTROL OUR HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.

Private Health Insurace WILL STILL EXISTS. You DO NOT HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR INSURANCE.

If you like you health insurance NOTHING WILL CHANGE FOE YOU.

What she proposed was ALLOWING PEOPLE TO PURCHASE THE SAME HEALTH COVERAG THAT THE CONGRESS HAS WITHOUT BLOCKING PEOPLE WITH PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS.

This is NOT GOVERNMENT HEALTH INSURANCE.
IT WILL ONLY AFFECT PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN IT.

She wants to make it mandatory that people have health insurance and for the ones that cannot afford it they will be worked into Medicaid.

When people do not have insuranc they use Emergecny Rooms as their caregivers and they are very expensive $600- $1,000 depending on the care.

By stopping this, the government will save a lot of money.

Obama just wants to cover Children, which by the way Most States have some type of Children's State Health Insurance NOW. So He is not going to have any EFFECTIVE CHANGE.

So McCai,if you want any Hillay supporters you better present her prosposals correctly.

Guess what? I will still vote for McCain. Obama is not trustworthy and no one really knows what he stands for. That statement about "Hillarycare" does not hurt my feelings at all. At least McCain is much more straightforward than Obama could ever "hope" to be.

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RECENTLY, IT SOUND LIKE MCCAIN IS CAMPAIGNING FOR OBAMA.

PRAISING HIM AT THE NCAAP SPEECH

NOW TRYING TO GET HILLARY VOTES FOR HIM

HAS MCCAIN GIVEN UP?

I WOULDN'T BLAME HIM.

STOP THE MADNESS. VOTE OBAMA.

Mcsame must be really losing his mind like he is losing Hillary supporters. I think he is exibiting signs of Parkinson's.

Obama 08

McCain is uniting democrats…yay!

I thought everyone having healthcare is a good thing!

Trying to demon-ize it by attaching Hillary's name to Obama's, does nothing to disguise McCain's lack of a healthcare plan.

In fact it just alienates those 18 million Hillary supporters!

Thats right McCain you just kissed 18 million Hillary supporters goodbye!!!

Smooth move!!!!! LOL!

So, we could have healthcare for America at the cost of 5 months in Iraq…..

I don't understand when McCain says we can't afford health care yet we can afford to pay for a war that was not the cause of 9/11 (by their commission) nor which has made us safer by increasing the deficit and borrowing from China.

"For those who know P.U.M.A, we will stay home and not vote!!! We rather see Obama losing, than see him without Hillary on the ticket. Less people will vote to Obama, more chances, he will go back to the Senate with his head down!!!"

Yes, racists certainly do believe that slaves, negroes, and coloreds should keep their heads down and not get uppity.

Hopefully a majority of the country will vote smart for a change, instead of voting in line with their baser instincts.

All you bitter Hillary Supporters better listen up. He wants your vote, but he will do nothing for you when he is president!

I really feel bad for the whole McCain campaign. It is evident that not only is he out of touch, but his advisors are all over the place and clearly have no idea how in the hell to beat Obama. (I'm an Obama supporter btw) I would expect that SOMEONE in the campaign would have the foresight and judgment to say, "Wait a minute, maybe we shouldn't be praising Hillary on one hand to get her voters, but then trying to link her with Obama on the other." Again, while the self-destruction of McCain makes me giddy, the lack of judgment by his campaign, and ultimately himself, is shocking in today's political world. They should all be fired.

yes because not being mandatory means NO ONE will abuse it…smart

MCCAIN… WE ARE NOT FRIENDS!

NC Man July 17th, 2008 3:34 pm ET

That is one really well thought-out possition on a very complicated subject big fella!
Do you realllize that every other nation in the western world has nationalized health care, and they love it!? Do you even realize that? Their governments seem to do it just fine.

You sir have lapped the cool-aid right out of the dish the right-wing is handing you. Where was your "government can't do anything" possition when they were getting us into this worthless war?

What will kill this country is not the lack of health care, a stable economy, the job market, the needless wars…no, what will kill this country is the uneducated stupidity on display every day in these comment sections and elsewhere all over this country. Just because you THINK it doesn't make it reality. Universal health care is a necessity for many people in this country, and that will become more apparent as time goes on. Do research and read up before spouting off itemized talking points on a CNN message board. We need to stop being so nice, and call out morons for what they are.

Cindy needs to take her husband home and if not to their house how about a nursing home.

GO AWAY McSame- You are so full of it- Eight years of hot air has been WAY TOO MUCH ALREADY!

Fellow poster from NY had it right:

PUMA is fake, they are nasty republicans !!!

PUMA is fake, they are nasty republicans !!!

PUMA is fake, they are nasty republicans !!!

They have to resort to this kind of trickery because their candidate has no clue, no chance and no where to go but down, down, down.

God Bless My Bam Bam! It will be a beautiful day come January…

Why does anyone even listen to John McInsane? Think of it this way you have one president that can't run a country in Bush. If you follow the same route with John McCain he will say anything to get in. He's old and senile and is out of touch. Not only do we have a president who has ran this country into the ground, but McCain is the one wearing a mask and trying to pull the wool over all of your eyes. I also want to add that Cindy McCain looks like Cruella De Vil from 100 delmations. She looks like another evil arrogant person like John McSame.

Barack Obama 4 President

hahahaha barack hussein obama II , stop the drama ,

Geeze..I finally agree with McCain on one thing..Partial Birth Abortion. It is hideous, horrific and shouldn't be allowed anywhere on earth. This is the only really serious issue I disagree with Obama on. Pro Choice but no unborn should suffer a partial birth abortion. I still cannot believe it is even legal in North America!!

Universal health care wouldn't bankrupt this country. An unjust and unwarranted war would (and is…).

How much does McSame pay for healthcare again?

Oh, wait - he has socialized healthcare just like all the congresspeople who oppose it on principle. What a bunch of hypocrites!

And Barack Obamas plan is not mandatory.

I am kind of hoping Obama wins, so that the college kids in the state of Texas will consider putting into action what many of us want to do…

make Texas its own country so we can get away from the liberal kool aid drinkers, who think socialism is the way to go.

oh yeah, if universal healthcare is the key, why are doctors in the UK turning away those with government healthcare?

Texans For Texas Independence!

It relates to this as how to tax people; everyone with a cell phone; union employment records, criminal records, medicals records, sports and vediogame records, currency records… are in ones own hands nearly all the time, while the records are actually also somewhere else, one becomes accountable for themselves via a conscience rating by open survey and government account, this then relates to taxation rebates and such as those criminally provided or respectfully gained, check of employement required for discounts in consumer goods relating to ones profile and all record of stock purchase is backed up, service-profit share?

McCain is lying. Barack Obama will not garnish peoples wages. Stop lying McBush.

I dont think this even deserves an explanation. They say that if all you can do is attack another person on their views, its because you dont have a remedy of your own. Good job mcCain.

Okay, CNN, why didn't you put anything in this piece about the flat-out lie by McCain in calling the Obama plan a rehash of Hillary's 1993 debacle?

Obama's plan is NOT a single payer (ie government) system. That and the consequential lack of a comprehensive mandate was the constant drumbeat complaint about his version of the system by Edwards and Clinton.

The Obama plan is NOT socialized medicine. Again, that would require the country to dismantle the insurance system, not just regulate it.

The Obama plan will largely leave in place the current employer based insurance system (something McCain's proposal would likely strip out - a boon to business owners, but not people with sick kids or chronic conditions).

What the Obama plan adds that doesn't exist right now is a combination of a federal plan for those who can't or don't get private insurance (one comparable to Congressional coverage), tax credits to make insurance affordable, regulations on the insurance companies to ensure that pre-existing conditions don't become an easy out to only covering people who are well, and generally an effort to ensure that people stop overtaxing the emergency medical system because they lack access to primary care. A key component of the last part is a limited mandate that if you have children you have to cover them, and that if you continue to abuse the system despite having care available to you the government will go after you for the full cost of treatment.

By most accounts, this plan is close to what Republicans and moderate Democrats proposed as an alternative to the Clinton "Universal" plan in 1993, and which Hillary wouldn't accept at the time. That is, something we could and should have had 15 years ago - not a radical change, but a moderate new direction with benefits for all Americans.

By comparison, McCain's central premise is that healthy Americans should be able to get cheaper coverage by divorcing themselves from their employer's plans and then banking the difference in health savings accounts. Sounds great, but it really turns on how heavily your employer subsidizes your health plan. If its a 60-75% subsidy (common for white collar workers), then your premium would skyrocket in the open market. Even if your personal health allowed you to save some portion of $5 K in an HSA, one major issue and you'd wipe it out, plus you'd probably see your premiums soar again (since you aren't part of that "healthy" pool anymore but a bigger risk to the industry). People already in that higher risk category, or whose children or spouse are? They wouldn't benefit from the proposal in the first place, but would see the cost of employer-provided healthcare rise, if it continued to exist at their work at all. The answer to the obvious gaps this would create is not to eliminate pre-existing condition rules, but create high risk pools akin to state minimum coverage for car insurance.

As a whole, in fact, the McCain plan would put your healthcare on the same footing as your auto insurance. If you are a perfectly healthy invdividual with no risk factors and who manages to avoid the sort of issues that will hit almost every American family (i.e. the perfect driver with no tickets or accidents, whether their fault or not), this system may work for you at least in the short run. But for everyone else, it will likely cost more with fewer benefits, and a constant emphasis in the industry on appearing to lower the cost of premiums through a series of discounts you can't compare across brands and the degree of service. In the long run, that ever greater disparity in care will likely look a lot like what we have in both auto insurance and healthcare today - with poor or really sick people driving up the costs for everyone because their coverage stinks or doesn't exist.

you see PUMA even McCain is telling you…OBAMA

Ha Ha.

Don't you silly lunatic fringe PUMAs or whatever dumb name you call yourselves feel even MORE stupid now?

HILARIOUS!

Do you want the government to tell you what you can and cannot do? The more you depend on goverment to provide for you the more they can take away from you.

Will you be able to pick your own doctor and set up your own appointment time?

You won't be denied care if you walk into a hospital without insurance.

You'll just get charged out the wazoo!

Lisa,

The major difference between Barack's healthcare plan and Hillary's plan is that Barack's plan is not mandatory for adults. He requires children to be covered, just like Hillary's. This has been a point of contention during the course of the campaign as Hillary believes that in order to have universal coverage, you must make it mandatory for everyone. Barack believes that the porblem with healthcare is not that a matter of choice but instead is a matter of being able to afford it. As such, his plan calls for tax credits and subsidies to make healthcare affordable for all who want it.

Beyond this, the plans are very similar in terms of opening healthcare to pre-existing conditions, public/private options, etc.

Hope this helps!

Ok so how does he expect to win Hillary supporter by making fun of her #1 goal in politics? Then on top of that he shows he true colors on abortion FOR ALL OF YOU PUMA FOLKS. And all he seems to do is talk bad about Obama but offers no coherent ideas himself. He entire strategy is NOT TO PROVE HE IS THE BETTER CANDIDATE BUT JUST TO MAKE YOU DISLIKE OBAMA MORE THAN HIM. POOR JOHN MCBUSH.

OBAMA 08-12

America is to greedy to have universal healthcare for it's own people. Look how they do the elderly and disabled with Medicare.

Better be careful, McNasty, and not tick off Obama. next thing you know, when he is President, he will cut off your Viagra supply, the way you voted against Birth Control. Next thing you know, Cindy will be heading for the local singles bar….

Ouchhhhh! He just lost another bearing

> The YouTube video of the women writhing on the floor in New York
> that everyone has seen is a good preview of Obama's healthcare plan.

Yeah, I'm sure that if she had McCain health care "tax credit" she would've died long before she ever got to a hospital.

McCain is so clueless that he thinks we can "pick" which insurance company we use. Most people have to take whatever their workplace offers. Buying insurance as a private single person is horribly expensive. He doesn't know this because he has been on government insurance since birth through his father in the military, and then his military insurance. He can't use a computer, doesn't understand insurance or social security or hard times financially.

He doesn't know or understand enough on a practical level to be president.

Ronal Regan had it right. The most frightening thing you can here is "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

T.Boone Pickens is 80 years old and I'd rather have him as President than McCain. This is something much worse than age, I fear.

The only people who can seriously think having McCain in office are those Bush handlers who simply want a man in front of the curtain…

America? Are you really listening? How can you NOT be afraid?

Casey in Tecumseh, Mo.

No government health care. Since I am over 70 years old, I will be on Obama's short list for euthanasia with the excuse being the government can't afford to provide health care for seniors, just for younger people. And, you know what? You will all reach senior status and euthanasia if the poorly run government health care allows you to live that long….

ALL IS AND ALL HE'LL EVER BE IS A LYING IDIOT AND VERY OLD OLD MAN WHO NEES HIS WIFE MONEY TO MAKE IT

If he's trying to win over HIllary's supporters, I'm guessing insulting Hillary is not a good way to go about it.

Great Job McCain…push those Democrats that were mad because Hillary didnt get the nod away. Can you say IDIOT? I love it when you give people rope and they are too stupid but not to hang themselves.

Here you go PUMAs.

Awwh what's wrong McCain? Hillary wont stump for you?

OH GRAMPS, I THOUGHT YOU WERE SENILE, NOT STUPID…

UNITED WE'RE STRONGER

OBAMA (P) & CLINTON (VP) 2008-2014

NO TO "BUSH II" (MCCAIN), McWAR, "BUSH'S-INTENT-FOR-2ND-PARADE-IN-IRAQ"

lol. How come I don't see any PUMAs talking?

Hillary tried socialized medicine many years ago and it's the same old same old. All of you libs who think Obama's plan will be better for you, just make sure you have plenty of money to bribe doctors when you really need them and they tell you you'll have to wait 6 months for your emergency visit due to all the people who are in line ahead of you, including illegals from Mexico and South America, and Europe.

There goes the "my friends" line again. McCain, can you please talk about what you would do instead of constantly attacking. The attacks are now becoming more funny than anything else.

I'll take either Hillarycare or Obamacare anyday rather than the nocare policy of the Republican War party. They can't spend $15 billion/month fast enough on an unnecessary war for a so called "victory", but any help for our own citizens or new ideas to improve this country is an "entitlement" (dirty word). I believe the PUMA people are the Rush Limbaugh chaos dittoheads, but will welcome them to the light too–vote for Dems!

PUMAs are REPUBLICANS posing as Democrats trying to work the division angle. Basically amounts to Operation Chaos, Part 2. They've got to know McCain is putting his foot in his mouth - yet once again.

I wonder what is the median age of Obama's supporters? Most of the above comments, if not all, are childishly inmature. You are in for a crash landing when your idol makes it to the WH. Yes, sir your boy will not only save the planet Earth but will bring all of his idolaters to the land of milk and honey. You can dream because that is all you have, who will you blame when your idol does not deliver the goodies that you are expecting? Someone is going to have a last laugh, it won't be the Obamatons!

Educate yourselves, watch Fox News!

Hispanic Nation for McCAIN
Latinos open your eyes OBAMA is not for US!!!

Hispanic and the Latinos Razas for McCain!!!

Mcsames favorite quote of "My firends" is driving me insane. This man could care less about the average American. The only reason he is in any form of politics is to protect his wifes empire in Budweiser which recently sold to a Belgian company. Now, show me how he cares about us.

People will vote for McCain, the same 28% of America who STILL believes that Bush/Cheney have done a "fine" job. The ditto-heads-the-hate-and-fear-mongers will vote for McCain.

This people, refuse to acknowledge that in the wealthiest nation on earth the NUMBER ONE REASON FOR PERSONAL BANKRUPTCY IS MEDICAL BILLS!

With the $650 BILLION spent yearly in Iraq, we could easily insure everyone!

Ben,

Were is your logic.

Most of the prosperous countries have universal health care like Switzerland, Austria and all of Europe. Maybe it makes good sense to have healthy people and provide health care for our citizens like other rich countries. Or we can just spend billions in Iraq every month-now doesn't that make sense. Talk about bankrupting our country.

Puma it's not sexism that won't allow Obama to pick HRC. It's the fact that she is a completly corrupt politician with way to much baggage to be anything but a hinderance to his desire to change how things are done in Washington. The fact that she is going on trial for fraud out in California can't help her cause either. The fact that she hasn't already been in court for these charges is only because a judge appointed by Bill postponed the trial after the election can't help either. She won't be able to serve as V.P. from a prison cell. Just because she wears pantsuits and not a suit doesn't make her any less corrupt.

unfortunately this won't get talked about like the NEW YORKER cover… or the "bitter" -comment….

This won't make it on the air!

-V

And PUMA is NOT FAKE you idiots. Trust me…its very real…and we are NOT Republicans!!

So much better than the McPain Plan.

No problem McCain, you can call Obama's plan "Hillarycare" and we'll just call your plan "NonExistent" - how's that work for ya'?

What does McCain actually stand for these days? It's hard to tell, all he does is criticize Obama, offereing nothing noteworthy.

McCain just shot himself in the foot w/ Clinton supporters. He better be careful where he steps.

If you have ever watched the Movie with Michael Douglas and Richard Dreyfus