July 17, 2008
Posted: 02:50 PM ET

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McCain said Obama's health care plan amounts to a government takeover.
McCain said Obama's health care plan amounts to a government takeover.

KANSAS CITY, Missouri (CNN) – John McCain devoted a substantial chunk of his town hall meeting Thursday to drawing contrasts with Barack Obama on health care policy, stressing his opposition to the presumptive Democratic nominee's health care plan and noting the "great difference" between them on abortion.

McCain's strongest denunciation of Obama came when discussing the Democrat's health care plan, which would cost $50-65 billion per year but would not mandate insurance coverage for all adults, only children.

"My friends, we've seen this movie before," McCain said. "It was called 'HillaryCare' back in 1993, and we're not going to do it again. We're not going to have the government take over the health care system in America."

At a later moment in the town hall, when stressing his own bipartisan record, McCain accused Obama of generally having "the most extreme record of any member of the United States Senate."

McCain also went out of his way early in the event to trumpet his opposition to abortion rights and a called partial-birth abortion a "hideous procedure that should never be allowed anywhere on earth." He promised "active advocacy for the rights of the unborn."

McCain struck a more moderate tone when taking a question about federal funding for stem cell research, which he supports. The Arizona senator argued the government should fund research on stem cells — especially skin cells — because of their "incredible potential" to combat diseases. However, the presumptive Republican nominee avoided using the term "embryonic" when discussing the matter Thursday.

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GSOres   July 17th, 2008 6:25 pm ET

Is this supposed to be an insult? I mean this is coming from a guy who's health care has been supported by our taxpayer dollars his ENTIRE life (and that's a long time).

Former g.o.p.   July 17th, 2008 6:19 pm ET

Be STILL (FOR HILL): If you want affordable healthcare for your kids and not 4 more years of bush/mcCain policies, vote Obama.

McCain is a tried and true supporter of unregulated corporate health insurance, where the c.e.o.s reap hugh bonuses, rates go up faster than inflation and people are cut, denied and tormented by the insurance industry.

If you agree with Hillary, you agree with Obama, since their views are 90 per cent the same.

David   July 17th, 2008 6:11 pm ET

——"My friends, we've seen this movie before," McCain said. "It was called 'HillaryCare' back in 1993, and we're not going to do it again. We're not going to have the government take over the health care system in America."——-

Can a true democrat vote for this guy ? really ?
McCain't doesn't have any solution for health Care, no solution for the war in Iraq, no solution for economy, how can we vote for a guy with not a single solution to solve our crisis ?

I suggest everyone thinks 2 times, before voting this Nov.
This is not an election about a candidate,, this the election about solving our problems, whether we're democrats or republicans, we're all suffering the same crisis (of course except for the wealthiest among, and McCain't wants to give them more with his tax cut policies…)

People, think before you vote, that's all I ask you…

Sean John   July 17th, 2008 6:10 pm ET

This from the man who has recieved quality free government health care all his life!!!?????

What if?   July 17th, 2008 6:10 pm ET

OK, McSame your point? What is yours called…RICH and DA health policy

Thank you Clinton and Obama for sharing a health plan for us the 98% of us that's not rich or married to someone with LOT'S of money.

Obama 08

Monica for Obama in Indiana   July 17th, 2008 6:10 pm ET

mccain, is really scared Obama has doubled mccain's fundraising for the month of June. yea!

All of you hillary and mccain supporters, eat your heart out.

mccain is mcsame =mcshame

Puzzled   July 17th, 2008 6:09 pm ET

And with Obama and his ilk, another brick in the nanny state will be laid. And then we'll be Sweden. Whoppeee! We're all going to die–of boredom.

m.   July 17th, 2008 6:09 pm ET

"July 17th, 2008 3:48 pm ET

For those who know P.U.M.A, we will stay home and not vote!!! We rather see Obama losing, than see him without Hillary on the ticket. Less people will vote to Obama, more chances, he will go back to the Senate with his head down!!!
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YOU SURE ARE SO IGNORANT

Nicole in NE   July 17th, 2008 6:08 pm ET

Everyone should read Andrew's post – he LAID IT OUT THERE for you all!

Moe, NY   July 17th, 2008 6:05 pm ET

Why should McWar care about the 48 million plus and growing Americans without healthcare? He wants all the money he can get to promote wars instead of helping his fellow citizens. I know McWar has a wonderful healthcare plan and it is free, so why should he care if millions of Americans go without medical care? I wish I had the authority to take his healthcare plan away from him…I am sure he would be singing a different tune. As for abortion rights…why is it that these old guard republicans feel the need to interfer in women's rights? McWar will have a fight on his hands with this one, American women will not return to the days of coat hangers, and don't think that concept is far fetched…it isn't. Stay out of women's right to choose you do not belong there nor are you wanted with your caveman mentality.

Texun   July 17th, 2008 6:05 pm ET

PUMA is a Karl Rove invention. Nobody who took Senator Clinton seriously could support McCain. She has made that clear and she will continue to do so. I do wish that Turnabout is Fair Play would find another candidate;he's making Obama backers look like intemperate hot heads. Fortunately, he doesn't speak for either Obama or his organization!

nick   July 17th, 2008 6:05 pm ET

I love the hillary care comment… Obama won't even have to try to unite the party with comments like that, just let McCain do it for him. Obviously he does not realize that her health care plan was a major reason why many of her supporters happened to have supported her over Obama. Now he is doing the work for Obama and stating the obvious… that Clintons plan and Baracks are pretty much the same. Thanks McCain!!

Eddie   July 17th, 2008 6:03 pm ET

GIVE ME HILLARYCARE OVER BUSHCARE ANYDAY!!

Obama 4 ever   July 17th, 2008 6:02 pm ET

Actually Hillary herself would have to disagree. Hillary's healthcare plan involved "mandates" unlike Obama's plan which involves healthcare at a cheaper premuim

Doris,Memphis,TN   July 17th, 2008 6:01 pm ET

I don't see all of the Hillary supporters on this site today.
Freida NYC where are you? Have you heard, McCain
is bashing Hill. Are you in the meeting with Carly?

Kevin   July 17th, 2008 6:00 pm ET

Mcsame, if actually elected by the special interest voting machines and the purging of the democrats from the voting rolls as in the last election. Will still be nothing more than a puppet in the White House for the GOP party just a s Bush is. Any one who votes for 4 more years of the bush legacy deserves what they get. We would prefer another choice, such a s Obama.

Eddie   July 17th, 2008 6:00 pm ET

SO Whats your Plan then MR. McCain? As if the Healthcare industry was not struggling, now your saying it would be a government takeover!!?! Im sure with your barbie girl wife of yours and her botox treatments, you guys have no problem seeing doctors huh??

I URGE EVERY MCCAIN SUPPORTER, CHANGE YOUR MIND BEFORE YOU MAKE THE WRONG DECISION, WE NEED A CHANGE,!!

IF YOU THINK MCCAIN IS ABOUT MORALS, RESEARCH WHAT HE DID TO HIS FIRST WIFE!!! CAROL MCCAIN. HE LEFT HER FOR CINDY! WHY U ASK? AFTER SHE HAD A HORRIBLE ACCIDENT THAT LEFT HER DISFIGURED HE LEFT HER TO DRY!!! AND YOU THINK HE CARES ABOUT YOU!?! BUT YOU DONT HEAR THIS ON THE NEWS!! wHY? BECAUSE HIS CAMPAIGN HAS ALREADY MUZZLED HER! SHES NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON IT! RESEARCH IT IF U DONT BELIEVE ME!

STILL FOR HILL   July 17th, 2008 5:59 pm ET

McCain… I like you enough to vote for you, but don't go bashing Hillary's policies. We already had to listen to these Obama supporters bash her for over a year. Keep it up and I will just write Hillary's name on the ballot in Nov.

Oh, Hillary, where are you? Two losers running for President. I wish all those people who benefited from all the work you did to ensure their kids have healthcare would have voted for you, but they voted for a speech instead of substance.

who told you that?   July 17th, 2008 5:59 pm ET

why these posts only confirm how misinformed the american public really is. our healthcare is pathetic compared to other socialized developed nations. true we lead the world in medical innovation, too bad nobody can afford it. why is anybody making a profit off of healthcare, its dispicable. just think of this, everytime an HMO pays out they consider it a "medical loss" and actively pursue to minimize "medical losses." providing healthcare isn't a loss, unless your filling your pockets with the difference. we need to cut out the middle men, mainly hmo's

Neil K, Lake Forest CA   July 17th, 2008 5:59 pm ET

Better than You're-On-Your-Own-Care. Does McCain even HAVE a health care plan?

Turnabout is Fair Play   July 17th, 2008 5:59 pm ET

Rick July 17th, 2008 3:50 pm ET

Hey Obama, keep your grubby mitts off of my healthcare. You already want every nickel that I make. Now you want to tell me who and where I can go for my health care? Why don't you go back to organizing kickball games on the playground instead of trying to play with the big boys.
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Hey retard, you need to change Obama to McStain, I think you're attacking the wrong person in this blog. Obama would help you ya idiot, McCain will ruin your healthcare. If you value what little you have left, stop the hate and think with your brain and not your emotions otherwise you have only yourself and those "PUMA" idiots to blame.

nina   July 17th, 2008 5:59 pm ET

it is known – her plan was /is better.

Turnabout is Fair Play   July 17th, 2008 5:56 pm ET

Lisa July 17th, 2008 3:49 pm ET

This is the #1 reason I voted for Hillary instead of Obama. Obama has absolutely no health care plan what so ever. Everytime ask an Obama supporter what his health care plan is not one person can explain this to me. If there is someone out there that can explain his plan please inform me. The only answer i ever receive is look at his website. Looking at his website does nothing for me, it's all talk and no substance just like the candidate Barack Obama.

Hillary wants health care coverage for every American Obama does not!

Hillary 08
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Lisa July 17th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

For Michelle Obams to be a wife and a mother, she should know that all American need health insurance.

I'm well aware that her and her rich friends and supporters have excellent benefits but it's not about her and her friends it's about American people.

So Michelle if you knew how to handle your household you should tell that stuck up Husband of yours everyone needs medical insurance.
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You REALLY need to let it go with Hillary bitter woman. IT IS OVER FOR HER. You can want and want all you can but it will not change and the nomination in August will seal the deal once and for all. You need to telling your Michelle story to Cindy McCain, it fits her better than Michelle. Michelle is handling her business like a real woman and mother, YOU should do the same instead of constantly spewing this crap and pay off your queen's debt. We got into this healthcare mess because of Repugnicans going hand in hand with Big Business, NOT because of Democrats.

On another note, How are you attacking Obama in this blog when the person this blog is about is McCain and the fact that he is indirectly attacking Hillary through Obama!! Boy, you've got bitter on the brain lady.

Travis (in the real world   July 17th, 2008 5:55 pm ET

Ok PUMA Billary lovers….wut ya sayin now?….:)

Denise Groves   July 17th, 2008 5:55 pm ET

Elizabeth Edwards is working on this healthcare plan. This is her area of expertise. Get a grip McCain! If Liz is working on it, is is a workable plan

Turnabout is Fair Play   July 17th, 2008 5:51 pm ET

Clinton Supporters for McCain-Ohio July 17th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

We, former clinton supporters, are supporting John McCain because he is devoted to protecting america! His healthcare plan is better than Obama's! I promise you, come November 4th people will be so amazed on how Clinton Supporters won McCain Ohio and Pennsylvania. People do not see it now but they will and I cannot wait to vote for John McCain!
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You truly are a clueless retard. Obama and Hillary's healthcare plans are almost identical with the exception that Obama's plan does not make coverage mandatory and Hillary's does, whether you can afford it or not. You REALLY don't have a clue as to what the hell you are talking about, just spewing someone else's recycle crap. IDIOT. PLEASE vote for McStain, we don't want your sorry vote in the Obama Express Train.

Dan   July 17th, 2008 5:48 pm ET

i really don't understand where people who claim that europeans and canadian come to us for better health care got their facts. that cannot be farther from the truth.
people in those countries have good quality health care. they also do not worry when they get sick because the government made sure they will be taken cared off withouth even thinking about it. it doesn't cost them an arm and a leg.

Loretta from California   July 17th, 2008 5:47 pm ET

People, Please stop insulting Hillary Clinton supporters

DEMOCRATS UNITE!!!

To John for Houston   July 17th, 2008 5:47 pm ET

YOUR RETARDED!!!!

Dan   July 17th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

To Obama supporters who are still using vile, venemous, taunting language towards those that support Hilary – remember, he too will suffer if 50% of Hilary supporters vote the other way – and it is not just John McCain who is in the ballot.
So stop being so cocky for you guys might be the laughing stock come November.

Hilary had the best healthcare plan along with John Edwards. Too bad these two are out of it.

Truth Be Told   July 17th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

There really is a meaningful difference this year between the two men vying to be president.

One wants it so badly that he lied about his intention to run.
The other was willing to sacrifice it out of love for his country.

And, in the final analysis, it is that difference that makes all the difference. All the difference in the world.

Former Hillary Supporter   July 17th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

This is why I will never vote for Mccain. Will talk a good game but turn on hill supporters in a minute. No way Mccain.

Texas Liberal   July 17th, 2008 5:43 pm ET

I do not care how people get good medical care. I don't care if it is through physicians in private practice, government clinics, employer clinics, corporations on a fixed fee contract, or if we hire the Canadians to run our health system (Canadians love their system by the way).

The goal is for Americans to get preventative care and medical treatment for any health problem. People in this country are dying from lack of medical care. More and more of us will find ourselves in the situation of being unable to afford care for members of our families. More and more families will be choosing whether to treat the wage earner or the children because they can't afford both.

All of you less gifted individuals who talk about "socialized medicine" but have never read a book on socialism and cannot define it need to close your mouth and listen for a while.

McCain, by the way, has a terrific government sponsored health plan. That guy hasn't paid a penny for medical care or prescription medicine since before he went to Viet Nam. He deserves it, but so do you and I.

RB   July 17th, 2008 5:43 pm ET

Truth be told HillaryCare is a hell of a lot better than McBush Care!

Phil   July 17th, 2008 5:42 pm ET

It's ok for us to spend billions of tax payers dollars on a war that is not protecting us or helping us in any way. Your talking billions of dollars a month to the war in Iraq. But is it not ok to spend billions of dollars to have health care for children in the united states. He is one heartless man. Even if the plan did not cover all adults, I would sleep better knowing that all children in the US could get medical treatment reguardless of how much money is in their wallet. I live in a state were 48 % of the population lives in poverty but yet in order to go to the local hospitals you need to park in the hospitals garage that requires you to pay a fee of up to 24.00. These helpless people need to decide whether their childs medical need is actually an emergency or should they buy tonights dinner. I am glad MCstupid is not my Friend.

Arkansas Undertaker   July 17th, 2008 5:42 pm ET

At least Barack has a plan and Hillary Had a plan Elmer Fudd!!!!

Phil-Little Rock   July 17th, 2008 5:41 pm ET

All you PUMA idiots can go to hell.

Wayne   July 17th, 2008 5:39 pm ET

How frightening, Republicans in charge of healthcare, which amounts to take two aspirin and don't call me in the morning because I'm playing golf with the insurance CEO's.

Can we just be American?   July 17th, 2008 5:38 pm ET

McCain is the great uniter (smile) well every time he speaks we Democrats unite… even the Pumas can not stand for this….. And folks vote for the future Roe vs. Wade will be over turned if McBush get into the office and that is simply wrong…

Jann, Denver CO   July 17th, 2008 5:37 pm ET

Thanks McCain for letting all those Hillary supporters know how you really feel about her!

Veteran's Care   July 17th, 2008 5:37 pm ET

What about the care for the veterans that he voted against? This man is a joke.

Let Them Eat Cake   July 17th, 2008 5:36 pm ET

What does he care, he's got Cindy's millions.

Bushcare   July 17th, 2008 5:35 pm ET

I'd rather have Hillary Care than Bushcare, which is nothing.

Debby, NJ   July 17th, 2008 5:34 pm ET

PUMAS:
This is the man you want to run your country !!!
No Health Care Plan
Opposes abortion
No coverage for birthcontrol
No exit plan for Iraq
BOMB, BOMB, BOMB, Iran
Senior Citizen who colletcs from the government
BARACK THE VOTE AMERICA !!!
McShame Is TOAST

dexx   July 17th, 2008 5:33 pm ET

hey does guys does Mccain get a senior citizen discount for advertising on T.V ?.if so he could save his campaign a lot of cash…

griffton08   July 17th, 2008 5:33 pm ET

Abortion is such a non-issue. The republicans had the entire White House, Senate, and House of Reps — literally, control of Washington — for almost 8 years.

That's the situation they would need to do anything about abortion — and they did absolutely nothing. They had their window, and blew it. What makes any Republican think that abortion is an issue in this election? As if McCain can magically do something alone, that an entire Capital Hill of Republicans and a Republican President working together couldn't do?!

Wake up. It's time to realize the issue is about getting health care to those without — and the way the economy is going, that could be YOU any day now.

It's time to realize we need a candidate that doesn't accept money from big oil and drug companies. Face it, it's time to vote Democrat this year.

Obama '08

THE O   July 17th, 2008 5:33 pm ET

This 72 year old fool, is acting like a 5 year old he has nothing to run on but name calling, and some people want this man to be president. I would rather have Hillarycare then another bush type goverment, and thats all that mccain offers…

BARACK THE VOTE!!!!!!!!

BARACK / SEBELIUS 08

Mike,CT   July 17th, 2008 5:32 pm ET

READ VOTERS

If you all like the way things going high gas,high food,loss job,loss homes….

You should vote John McCain

When Bill Clinton was president you had more money,food price low, house was cheap……..

You should vote OBAMA

OBAMA policies the same as Bill Clinton 250,000 or less that is 95% of you usa people will not get tax and will get a tax break.

McCain policies the same as BUSH im not sure what you will save.

Don't let Talk radio fool you read there policies on there web site.

Also even if you don't like OBAMA vote for his policies.

And if your a woman you in truble with McCain policies, good luck ladies.

VOTE SMART PEOPLE

Abdi, Minnesota   July 17th, 2008 5:31 pm ET

Why Sen. McCain loves talking to small group of senior citizens instead of large audience with mixed age? Come on senator! You are running the president of the USA. If you are elected, which seems almost impossible, do you want to give your State of the Union Speech in a town hall meeting?

Doris,Memphis,TN   July 17th, 2008 5:29 pm ET

Follow your leader Hillary Supporters.
McCain is throwing Hillary under the bus.
Barack didn't throw her under the bus,
he is lifting her up.

joe   July 17th, 2008 5:28 pm ET

mccains healt care plan is called MCBUSH HEALTH CARE!!!!! HAHAHAHAHHA MCCAIN YOUARE A CLOWN BRO

griffton08   July 17th, 2008 5:27 pm ET

Abortion is such a non-issue. The republicans had the entire White House, Senate, and House of Reps — literally, control of Washington — for the most of 8 years.

That's the situation they would need to do anything about abortion — and they did absolutely nothing. They had their window, and blew it. What makes any Republican think that abortion is an issue in this election? As if McCain can magically do something that an entire Capital Hill of Republicans and a Republican President working together couldn't do?!

Wake up. It's time to realize the issue is about getting health care to those without — and the way the economy is going, that could be YOU any day now.

Mary   July 17th, 2008 5:26 pm ET

McCain said “the most extreme record of any member …..”

McCain, what happened to your straight talk? You are sounding more and more like Fix News.

Say What?!   July 17th, 2008 5:23 pm ET

If this nation had "HillaryCare, we would be much better off. McDrain is receiving the equivalent of the top-of-the-line HillaryCare; however, he is unaware of this fact or he is too selfish to admit it.. Since he is so wealthly, he can afford to pay for his insurance coverage out of his pocket. McDrain has insulted Hillary's supporters and all Americans who do not have health insurance or are on the brink of losing the
coverage that they have. Just say "NO" to Senator John McDrain. He is not the answer for America. Hillary supporters! Today McCain revealed his true feelings. He wants your votes, but does not respect one of Senator Clinton's most important policies. Same on McDrain!

Please think   July 17th, 2008 5:23 pm ET

"Hillarycare" is that supposed to be humorous?
My father retired at 60. Cobra and other private insurance plans were unaffordable. So he has to roll the dice until he is eligible for medicare at age 65 and utilize savings for minor medical issues should they arise. Unfortunately, he has recently been diagnosed with an obstruciton of the pancreas and needs surgery.
Blood panels, he had 5 at $800/per test
2 inconclusive ultrasounds- $2000
1 MRI $5000
The surgery itself, well we been quoted the bargain price of at least $100,000. 401K, Reverse mortgage, credit cards will all be used. I never saw him miss a day of work in his life.
Please think. These issues affect real people in ways we can only imagine.

South Park Conservative   July 17th, 2008 5:21 pm ET

We already HAVE universal healthcare. To say we don't is like saying we don't have universal Diet Coke, universal Cheetos, universal cable TV, universal Hondas or universal Gap t-shirts. It's all there, it's all available, it's all "universal" for you to purchase.

What we DON'T have is a sugar daddy to buy it all for us, or rather, a nanny state to wipe our noses and butts for us.

Simple, if you want something… buy it. If you can't afford it, well, you need to determine how important it is to you and decide HOW you're going to buy it. (Here's a hint… it's called "sacrifice"… I know it's not a word many of us are familiar with, but it's one we need to learn… "let's see, go to my doctor for a checkup, or put some spinning rims on my hoopty?" Also known as "priorities.")

Tommy   July 17th, 2008 5:21 pm ET

At least Obama has a plan! McCain't just criticizes Obama on everything. Bush administration then implements Obama's plan and McNoplan ends up looking like McClueless!

Proud American   July 17th, 2008 5:20 pm ET

There you go PUMA and Hillary supporters for McCain… he's mocking Obamas plan by comparing it to Hillary. There is your great candidate of choice. Only a misguided idiot would vote for McCain.

Phil Newton, Murphy, OREGON   July 17th, 2008 5:19 pm ET

McCain's health care "plan" ought to be called "Who Cares?"

Rick FL   July 17th, 2008 5:18 pm ET

That's your candidate, right "PUMA?" (pun intended) Many of us had already figured out your operation whatever it is Limbaugh tells his minions to do.

McCain represents the status quo on many failing issues, including healthcare. We need a new direction this time with mutual policies important to both Clinton & Obama supporters.

Hill's plan was BEST   July 17th, 2008 5:17 pm ET

Hill was devoted to providing affordable health care to EVERY American.

Obama isn't. His plan just gives it away to a few and lets those who can afford coverage continue to opt out.

No improvement.

Animal Farm   July 17th, 2008 5:17 pm ET

McCain would be bush's follower if he became president, and I don't like a lot of obama's ideas but he's better than McCain.

write in "RON PAUL" 2008, the only hope for america.

Republican for Obama   July 17th, 2008 5:16 pm ET

To all of you commenting about waiting lists. I would like you to do some research.

In the UK the life expectancy is longer than in the America. It is also longer in Canada, France, Austria, as well as, most of Western Europe. So I guess something must be working right? It is really easy to say everything is great when you have health insurance, but I'm sure the tens of millions of Americans who don't have covererage beg to differ.

Universal Health or nothing   July 17th, 2008 5:15 pm ET

I'm for UNIVERSAL health care- as per HRC.

But I am not for Obama's brand of socialized medicine that is NOT universal.

Everyone should be covered or noone- no more of the chaos we now have where a few are paying the health care burden for the many.

Hans-Erik Iken   July 17th, 2008 5:15 pm ET

In the Neherlands we have univesal healthcare and its working like a charm. We all get good basic healthare for 130 euro a month per person (including gp and specialist/hospitalcare, dentist etc.) AND we can buy additional healthcare from the insurance companies if we choose to do so. This way we can even afford private clinics, even if you only make the average income.

If a person cannot afford the basic package based on their income the taxoffice subsidises them. And we are in no way heading for bankruptcy as a nation. The cost of healthcare is high, but at least our government thinks its people are worth every cent.

People matter more then money or dogma, it is time the US government realises that and truly acts on it instead of bashing people over the head with their own ideology….

Darth Vadik, CA   July 17th, 2008 5:14 pm ET

And what is wrong with that McInsane?

Dems are stuck in the fix they rigged   July 17th, 2008 5:14 pm ET

Hillary's plan actually WAS universal- and made sense.

Obama's plan is NOT universal and is no better than what we NOW have- pay for it, or opt out and let others pay for your care.

jimmy velman   July 17th, 2008 5:13 pm ET

THAT STATEMENT FROM MCCAIN WITH THE REMARK QUOTE"
HILLARY CARE" IS JUST WHAT WILL SINK JOHN MCCAIN
S CANDIDACY. ANY DISPARAGING REMARKS ON HILLARY FROM SENATOR MCCAIN VILL BACKFIRE ON HIM AS HE WILL SOON SEE.
MCCAIN DOES NOT HAVE THE SUPPORT THAT HILLARY CLINTON HAS AMONG CORE AMERICAN VOTERS.

Cracka lova   July 17th, 2008 5:10 pm ET

Great post BULLDOG

Nando, Florida   July 17th, 2008 5:10 pm ET

OLD FOOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and anyone that votes for this LANDMARK is a FOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Real Issue   July 17th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

I am so glad to hear that Senator McCain has said the health plan is Hillary-care……So maybe you Hillary Clinton followers can finally see that this man is not for you. The Real Issue is Senator McCain is for the Republican way that has brought us: reduced or zero medical coverage/Corporate Bankruptcies-Bears Stearns/ Corporate deficicits-Merrill-Lynch/ Bank Failures-IndyMac/Katrina in New Orleans (5 days to respond)/No Child Left Behind (some city school districts with 50% or more drop-outs…..guess who has to pay for them to live (welfare) or they commit crimes or they are not trained properly (illiterate)…./more foreclosures/higher and higher gasoline prices/ predatory lending due to little or zero monitoring by this administration/ no end in sight for the Wars (Afghanistan-Iraq)/ infrastructure problems (Minnesota-Iowa-Illinois-Missouri)/ etc. etc.

My fellow Americans, let us not forget that due to the gasoline prices, food prices and inflation has increased…….

And some of you want to vote for Senator McCain!!!!! Be real and stick note the issue, Senator McCain does not support health care for the average American and now says he will not support HILLARYCARE!!!!

Nobama money   July 17th, 2008 5:08 pm ET

Obama has money, and is spending to woo voters at places where he has nevr been before.

Umm does it mean, more the money, more votes you get ?

Chuck   July 17th, 2008 5:08 pm ET

That is the stupidist comment that has come from McCains mouth. Obama's health care plan and Hillary's plan although simular are different how sturctured. Atleast Obama has a plan for America, where as McCain wants to leave it alone for the market to handle. Also he failed to vote on the latest Medicare Bill that effected 40 million plus seniors and countless active duty, reserve and retired Military personnel as well as millions of children. That is an example of how much he cares about our well being and health.

Ronfrom FL   July 17th, 2008 5:07 pm ET

Gary:

You fall in that 28% of haters. Sad.

Ken Pittsburgh   July 17th, 2008 5:07 pm ET

So let get this clear You Hillary supporters you say you vote for McCain and not Obama were just been given a back handed slap in the face.Obama and Hillary are closer to each other than is John McCain . The light blub was invented so thatwe can see out of the darkest John McCain comment should be a light blub over the head of her supporters

Ross   July 17th, 2008 5:05 pm ET

As a former staunch Hillary supporter who has supported Obama feverishly since she dropped out, I hope this makes my fellow Hillary supporter friends who want to vote for McCain realize how crazy that is!

Oh Sen. McCain, if you want to win Hillary voters, this is NOT the way to do it. I hope he keeps making more of these mistakes and being rude to Hillary, it will help us Dems even more!

Lifelong Democrat   July 17th, 2008 5:05 pm ET

Barack Hussein Obama is a left wing nut job.

Cracka lova   July 17th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

Hillarycare….and he is what you Obama haters are choosing in default…….this guy doesn't deserve that default vote……he is mocking ths goddess HRC……..SHAME ON YOU JOHN MC PLANECRASH

Sylvia Johnsen   July 17th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

Obama health-care plan does what McCain health-care plan does: Leave people without coverage. In case of Obama approximately 15 million people. Hillary Clinton has a plan for all Americans. All as in 100%.

This is why Obama would love to have her as Secretary of Health, and why she should decline. She won the popular vote, 18 million people bet on Clinton. Obama's offer for health was an insult. He represents the industry who invested millions and millions to stop Hillary in 1993, and who did it again 2008. Using the Clinton name to wash a bad plan and try to capitalize on political trust that come from a lifetime of commitment on this issue. Clinton saw throught the Trojan horse for what it was, Obama has to come true and offer VP or nothing. McCain is just stupid to remind us.

Clinton will beat McCain senseless.

MMN-Milwaukee WI   July 17th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

Three words: McCain voodoo economics

Ronfrom FL   July 17th, 2008 5:03 pm ET

My friends: I'm losing it. Good night.

Dave, Illinois   July 17th, 2008 5:03 pm ET

Yawn,
Obamites: "Mcsame", "Puma", "Change",
Yawn,

Obamites, your simple little minds need some new material. Better have MoveOn implant some more into the empty suit Obama's head. Then he can use some pretty words to implant them into your sheep brains.

whiner   July 17th, 2008 5:03 pm ET

no comment,texas trail dog?

Andrea in Fl   July 17th, 2008 5:00 pm ET

C;mon, Sen. McCain. You don't expect him to come up with something all by himself, do you? Have you noticed, with all his donations, he still BARELY comes out ahead of you? He was losing to Hillary, which is why the DNC had to fix it for him. Why do you think he hides whenever it's time for a town hall? NOO ONE in his camp wants him to talk without a teleprompter! The man is a PUPPET!

Jatovi, NC   July 17th, 2008 5:00 pm ET

So let me get this straight,Hillary and Obama have a lot of views in common and that's bad, yet McCain and Bush have a lot of views in common and that's good???? I really say this guy has dementia, maybe he needs a new report from Czechoslovakia.

Rich   July 17th, 2008 5:00 pm ET

Our access to healthcare in this country is a disgrace. There is no need to innovate here, most industrialized countries have a superior healthcare system to ours. All we have to do is copy the best one. I worked multiple part time jobs for 10 years with no health insurance and no way to afford even a doctor visit when I was sick. Even rich people can face financial ruin if their health goes bad in this country. It's rediculous.

Kiah   July 17th, 2008 5:00 pm ET

PUMA's rejoice. McCain LOVES and respects all of your platforms especially on Healthcare whichis the candidate you claim to loves claim to fame!

Obama '08

Ronfrom FL   July 17th, 2008 4:59 pm ET

TX

Some people are getting Universal Health Care and Socialized medicine confused. They are not the same!!!

In California   July 17th, 2008 4:59 pm ET

Many companies leaving US and moving their factories to China and elsewhere cite Healthcare cost as one of the main reasons. If McCain takes away the tax credit for companies who provide these benefits to their emaployess, it will only make more factories to close…

So if McCain wins; I am investing in Shipping companies, since nothing will be made here and everything will need to be shipped from China.

epicbaze2005   July 17th, 2008 4:59 pm ET

This guy simply has no idea what he's doing.

Mark, B'ham., Al.   July 17th, 2008 4:58 pm ET

The goal of the "Liberal Left" is a European Socialist/Welfare State and Obama's Health Care Plan is the next step to Universal Health Care/Hillary Care. But you need to ask yourself why the social elite/wealthy in Europe/Canada and these Communist Counties come to the USA for their medical treatments for serious illnesses and major surgery? Is it because their systems are not quite as good as they say? The 85% of Americans who are willing to pay for insurance will have a drop in quality as the US Military did with the drawdown and Bill's HMO program for their families health care.

Iam4mycountry   July 17th, 2008 4:56 pm ET

Has anyone hear much from PUMA lately? Have you all seen the new ad for Planned parenthood with McCain's response when asked his Opinion about Viagra being covered by health insurance but not Birth Control Pills? I hope the Clinton supports who say they now support McCain actually take a look at were Mccain stands on Women Rights. If they really were for what Clinton believed then there is no way they could support McCain.

Phil, FL   July 17th, 2008 4:56 pm ET

I sure wish Bill Clinton would clean up stupidity in the US before he tackles malaria in the rest of the world.

Fewer repukes would be very very nice.

Hello!!!   July 17th, 2008 4:56 pm ET

Of course it's Hillarycare……everything Obama has come up with has come from Hillary's ideas……BTW if everyone had listened to Hillary in the 90's, our healthcare problems would not exist today.

She's so smart :)

bill for barack   July 17th, 2008 4:56 pm ET

What does McSame call his ?
'Tough luck care '?
Not that he has a plan anyway, but all his worthless,senseless mouthing has been in the direction of major profit increases ffor insurance companies and pharmaceuticals.
I hope HIS plan will treat his senility.

CB   July 17th, 2008 4:55 pm ET

SO AGAIN!!!!! His solution is (drum roll please) "Let's DO NOTHING!"…..Let's do nothing to solve the health care crisis. Let's do nothing. That's his plan. Do nothing in Iraq, do nothing on health care, do nothing on our dependence on oil, basically – he thinks everything is going along fine and we should just "stay the course".

JIM...TX   July 17th, 2008 4:55 pm ET

Most of the PUMA's don't care what McBushes policies are…they're just prejudiced an not voting for a black man no matter what. Pretty sad state of affairs to sell your soul to the Devil to try and prove a point:(

Peter in PA   July 17th, 2008 4:54 pm ET

NC man,

If GVT can't handle anything right, let us privatize Marine, Navy and Air Force too. I don't think republican controlled governement and republican commander-in-chief have any clue about how to fight a war and national security. So let us privatize those three armed forces to Halliburton, Boeing, Raythean. Let us also fund our armed forces privately with IndyMac, Freddie Mac, Bear Stern, Hedge Funds….

You dump republican fool.

Iam4mycountry   July 17th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

McCain knows that the only way he can become President is to discredit Obama. I was watching him today and he brought up again that if you want your taxes raised then vote for Obama. But that is only if you are making more than $250,000 and most of the people behind him did not look like it. He also brought up that Federal Gas Tax Holiday he keeps talking about. I thought it was 18 cents a gallon but he has raised it now to 25 cents a gallon. That is not going to save much. For every hundred gallons (even at the 25 Cents) would only be $25.00. For most of us we don't use that much a month. If any one else was watching did he sound horrible (sound wise)? I could not decide if he sounded bad or if there was something wrong with the sound system.

what?   July 17th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

@LISA….i just donated $100.00 to Obama in your honor, thanks for having the ignorance to inspire. you BaROCK girl.

@typical white person, i am a bit confused by your name….i know a lot of white people not one of them is as idiotic as you…how are you typical

Ted:Canada   July 17th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

Obama put Hillary in charge of a universal health care plan. Take care of your people's basic health issues and they will love you for ever – real change!!!

It works in Canada and other countries around the world. Not only will the people love you but employers will benefit as well.

A government’s first obligation is to the health and welfare of their people.

We were shocked in Canada when McCain couldn’t answer the question about birth control. WOW he looked like a complete idiot. How can he have any plan related to health if he does know the basics. Where was his advisors?

The clip keeps getting shown over and over again in Canada as example of “how stupid you can be and still run for president” of the US.
In fact there is a cruel joke going around but it is a bit harsh albeit the international image of America has been seriously tarnished by his feeble response.
How did he get this far??

CNN see if you can keep McCain off the air. Around the world he’s making America look bad!!! They keep showing the clip over and over again…

Seam, Philly PA   July 17th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

I wish McSame would stop addressing people with that stupid line "My Friends……………."

whiner   July 17th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

so pumas.how do you like your man mccain,now?idiots

Hello!!!   July 17th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

Of course it's Hillarycare……everything Obama has come up with has come from Hillary's ideas……BTW if everyone had listened to Hillary in the 90's, our healthcare problems would not exist today.

PG   July 17th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

Words to Hillary Clinton supporters voting for McSame.

"See the love."

Charlie   July 17th, 2008 4:50 pm ET

Gee, I thought McCain loved Hillary now? Why now bashing "Hillarycare"?

Kelly   July 17th, 2008 4:50 pm ET

McCain BETTER THINK BEFORE HE OPENS HIS MOUTH!
I am a Democrat, a Hillary supporter who planned to vote for McCain but he better get his facts straight.

Maybe in 1993 she proposed Universal Health INSURNCE BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT SHE PROPOSED THIS YEAR.

She was Universal HEALTH COVERAGE NOT INSURANCE.
THE GOVERNMENT WILL NOT CONTROL OUR HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.

Private Health Insurace WILL STILL EXISTS. You DO NOT HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR INSURANCE.

If you like you health insurance NOTHING WILL CHANGE FOE YOU.

What she proposed was ALLOWING PEOPLE TO PURCHASE THE SAME HEALTH COVERAG THAT THE CONGRESS HAS WITHOUT BLOCKING PEOPLE WITH PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS.

This is NOT GOVERNMENT HEALTH INSURANCE.
IT WILL ONLY AFFECT PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN IT.

She wants to make it mandatory that people have health insurance and for the ones that cannot afford it they will be worked into Medicaid.

When people do not have insuranc they use Emergecny Rooms as their caregivers and they are very expensive $600- $1,000 depending on the care.

By stopping this, the government will save a lot of money.

Obama just wants to cover Children, which by the way Most States have some type of Children's State Health Insurance NOW. So He is not going to have any EFFECTIVE CHANGE.

So McCai,if you want any Hillay supporters you better present her prosposals correctly.

Hispanic Puma   July 17th, 2008 4:50 pm ET

Guess what? I will still vote for McCain. Obama is not trustworthy and no one really knows what he stands for. That statement about "Hillarycare" does not hurt my feelings at all. At least McCain is much more straightforward than Obama could ever "hope" to be.

al   July 17th, 2008 4:49 pm ET

*******************************************************

RECENTLY, IT SOUND LIKE MCCAIN IS CAMPAIGNING FOR OBAMA.

PRAISING HIM AT THE NCAAP SPEECH

NOW TRYING TO GET HILLARY VOTES FOR HIM

HAS MCCAIN GIVEN UP?

I WOULDN'T BLAME HIM.

STOP THE MADNESS. VOTE OBAMA.

Ronfrom FL   July 17th, 2008 4:49 pm ET

Mcsame must be really losing his mind like he is losing Hillary supporters. I think he is exibiting signs of Parkinson's.

Obama 08

Peter   July 17th, 2008 4:49 pm ET

McCain is uniting democrats…yay!

Damian Salter   July 17th, 2008 4:49 pm ET

I thought everyone having healthcare is a good thing!

Trying to demon-ize it by attaching Hillary's name to Obama's, does nothing to disguise McCain's lack of a healthcare plan.

In fact it just alienates those 18 million Hillary supporters!

Thats right McCain you just kissed 18 million Hillary supporters goodbye!!!

Smooth move!!!!! LOL!

PJ   July 17th, 2008 4:48 pm ET

So, we could have healthcare for America at the cost of 5 months in Iraq…..

I don't understand when McCain says we can't afford health care yet we can afford to pay for a war that was not the cause of 9/11 (by their commission) nor which has made us safer by increasing the deficit and borrowing from China.

John in Columbus Ohio   July 17th, 2008 4:47 pm ET

"For those who know P.U.M.A, we will stay home and not vote!!! We rather see Obama losing, than see him without Hillary on the ticket. Less people will vote to Obama, more chances, he will go back to the Senate with his head down!!!"

Yes, racists certainly do believe that slaves, negroes, and coloreds should keep their heads down and not get uppity.

Hopefully a majority of the country will vote smart for a change, instead of voting in line with their baser instincts.

McBride, SLC, UT   July 17th, 2008 4:46 pm ET

All you bitter Hillary Supporters better listen up. He wants your vote, but he will do nothing for you when he is president!

Kyle in San Diego   July 17th, 2008 4:46 pm ET

I really feel bad for the whole McCain campaign. It is evident that not only is he out of touch, but his advisors are all over the place and clearly have no idea how in the hell to beat Obama. (I'm an Obama supporter btw) I would expect that SOMEONE in the campaign would have the foresight and judgment to say, "Wait a minute, maybe we shouldn't be praising Hillary on one hand to get her voters, but then trying to link her with Obama on the other." Again, while the self-destruction of McCain makes me giddy, the lack of judgment by his campaign, and ultimately himself, is shocking in today's political world. They should all be fired.

John - Houston   July 17th, 2008 4:46 pm ET

yes because not being mandatory means NO ONE will abuse it…smart

Wisconsin   July 17th, 2008 4:46 pm ET

MCCAIN… WE ARE NOT FRIENDS!

Real Change   July 17th, 2008 4:46 pm ET

NC Man July 17th, 2008 3:34 pm ET

That is one really well thought-out possition on a very complicated subject big fella!
Do you realllize that every other nation in the western world has nationalized health care, and they love it!? Do you even realize that? Their governments seem to do it just fine.

You sir have lapped the cool-aid right out of the dish the right-wing is handing you. Where was your "government can't do anything" possition when they were getting us into this worthless war?

Molly   July 17th, 2008 4:46 pm ET

What will kill this country is not the lack of health care, a stable economy, the job market, the needless wars…no, what will kill this country is the uneducated stupidity on display every day in these comment sections and elsewhere all over this country. Just because you THINK it doesn't make it reality. Universal health care is a necessity for many people in this country, and that will become more apparent as time goes on. Do research and read up before spouting off itemized talking points on a CNN message board. We need to stop being so nice, and call out morons for what they are.

Farrell, Houston, Tx   July 17th, 2008 4:45 pm ET

Cindy needs to take her husband home and if not to their house how about a nursing home.

go away mongers- Ventura ca   July 17th, 2008 4:44 pm ET

GO AWAY McSame- You are so full of it- Eight years of hot air has been WAY TOO MUCH ALREADY!

Puma = Poopoo   July 17th, 2008 4:44 pm ET

Fellow poster from NY had it right:

PUMA is fake, they are nasty republicans !!!

PUMA is fake, they are nasty republicans !!!

PUMA is fake, they are nasty republicans !!!

They have to resort to this kind of trickery because their candidate has no clue, no chance and no where to go but down, down, down.

God Bless My Bam Bam! It will be a beautiful day come January…

Jay   July 17th, 2008 4:43 pm ET

Why does anyone even listen to John McInsane? Think of it this way you have one president that can't run a country in Bush. If you follow the same route with John McCain he will say anything to get in. He's old and senile and is out of touch. Not only do we have a president who has ran this country into the ground, but McCain is the one wearing a mask and trying to pull the wool over all of your eyes. I also want to add that Cindy McCain looks like Cruella De Vil from 100 delmations. She looks like another evil arrogant person like John McSame.

Barack Obama 4 President

mmm   July 17th, 2008 4:43 pm ET

hahahaha barack hussein obama II , stop the drama ,

Paula "Hussein" Mack Canada   July 17th, 2008 4:43 pm ET

Geeze..I finally agree with McCain on one thing..Partial Birth Abortion. It is hideous, horrific and shouldn't be allowed anywhere on earth. This is the only really serious issue I disagree with Obama on. Pro Choice but no unborn should suffer a partial birth abortion. I still cannot believe it is even legal in North America!!

really? come on   July 17th, 2008 4:43 pm ET

Universal health care wouldn't bankrupt this country. An unjust and unwarranted war would (and is…).

dAVE   July 17th, 2008 4:42 pm ET

How much does McSame pay for healthcare again?

Oh, wait – he has socialized healthcare just like all the congresspeople who oppose it on principle. What a bunch of hypocrites!

not important   July 17th, 2008 4:40 pm ET

And Barack Obamas plan is not mandatory.

John - Houston   July 17th, 2008 4:40 pm ET

I am kind of hoping Obama wins, so that the college kids in the state of Texas will consider putting into action what many of us want to do…

make Texas its own country so we can get away from the liberal kool aid drinkers, who think socialism is the way to go.

oh yeah, if universal healthcare is the key, why are doctors in the UK turning away those with government healthcare?

Texans For Texas Independence!

William Courtland, Waterford, ON   July 17th, 2008 4:40 pm ET

It relates to this as how to tax people; everyone with a cell phone; union employment records, criminal records, medicals records, sports and vediogame records, currency records… are in ones own hands nearly all the time, while the records are actually also somewhere else, one becomes accountable for themselves via a conscience rating by open survey and government account, this then relates to taxation rebates and such as those criminally provided or respectfully gained, check of employement required for discounts in consumer goods relating to ones profile and all record of stock purchase is backed up, service-profit share?

not important   July 17th, 2008 4:40 pm ET

McCain is lying. Barack Obama will not garnish peoples wages. Stop lying McBush.

Brian   July 17th, 2008 4:39 pm ET

I dont think this even deserves an explanation. They say that if all you can do is attack another person on their views, its because you dont have a remedy of your own. Good job mcCain.

Andrew Dzeguze   July 17th, 2008 4:39 pm ET

Okay, CNN, why didn't you put anything in this piece about the flat-out lie by McCain in calling the Obama plan a rehash of Hillary's 1993 debacle?

Obama's plan is NOT a single payer (ie government) system. That and the consequential lack of a comprehensive mandate was the constant drumbeat complaint about his version of the system by Edwards and Clinton.

The Obama plan is NOT socialized medicine. Again, that would require the country to dismantle the insurance system, not just regulate it.

The Obama plan will largely leave in place the current employer based insurance system (something McCain's proposal would likely strip out – a boon to business owners, but not people with sick kids or chronic conditions).

What the Obama plan adds that doesn't exist right now is a combination of a federal plan for those who can't or don't get private insurance (one comparable to Congressional coverage), tax credits to make insurance affordable, regulations on the insurance companies to ensure that pre-existing conditions don't become an easy out to only covering people who are well, and generally an effort to ensure that people stop overtaxing the emergency medical system because they lack access to primary care. A key component of the last part is a limited mandate that if you have children you have to cover them, and that if you continue to abuse the system despite having care available to you the government will go after you for the full cost of treatment.

By most accounts, this plan is close to what Republicans and moderate Democrats proposed as an alternative to the Clinton "Universal" plan in 1993, and which Hillary wouldn't accept at the time. That is, something we could and should have had 15 years ago – not a radical change, but a moderate new direction with benefits for all Americans.

By comparison, McCain's central premise is that healthy Americans should be able to get cheaper coverage by divorcing themselves from their employer's plans and then banking the difference in health savings accounts. Sounds great, but it really turns on how heavily your employer subsidizes your health plan. If its a 60-75% subsidy (common for white collar workers), then your premium would skyrocket in the open market. Even if your personal health allowed you to save some portion of $5 K in an HSA, one major issue and you'd wipe it out, plus you'd probably see your premiums soar again (since you aren't part of that "healthy" pool anymore but a bigger risk to the industry). People already in that higher risk category, or whose children or spouse are? They wouldn't benefit from the proposal in the first place, but would see the cost of employer-provided healthcare rise, if it continued to exist at their work at all. The answer to the obvious gaps this would create is not to eliminate pre-existing condition rules, but create high risk pools akin to state minimum coverage for car insurance.

As a whole, in fact, the McCain plan would put your healthcare on the same footing as your auto insurance. If you are a perfectly healthy invdividual with no risk factors and who manages to avoid the sort of issues that will hit almost every American family (i.e. the perfect driver with no tickets or accidents, whether their fault or not), this system may work for you at least in the short run. But for everyone else, it will likely cost more with fewer benefits, and a constant emphasis in the industry on appearing to lower the cost of premiums through a series of discounts you can't compare across brands and the degree of service. In the long run, that ever greater disparity in care will likely look a lot like what we have in both auto insurance and healthcare today – with poor or really sick people driving up the costs for everyone because their coverage stinks or doesn't exist.

what?   July 17th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

you see PUMA even McCain is telling you…OBAMA

dAVE   July 17th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

Ha Ha.

Don't you silly lunatic fringe PUMAs or whatever dumb name you call yourselves feel even MORE stupid now?

HILARIOUS!

Lewis   July 17th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

Do you want the government to tell you what you can and cannot do? The more you depend on goverment to provide for you the more they can take away from you.

Will you be able to pick your own doctor and set up your own appointment time?

You won't be denied care if you walk into a hospital without insurance.

You'll just get charged out the wazoo!

Kevin Leo (Jonesboro, GA)   July 17th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

Lisa,

The major difference between Barack's healthcare plan and Hillary's plan is that Barack's plan is not mandatory for adults. He requires children to be covered, just like Hillary's. This has been a point of contention during the course of the campaign as Hillary believes that in order to have universal coverage, you must make it mandatory for everyone. Barack believes that the porblem with healthcare is not that a matter of choice but instead is a matter of being able to afford it. As such, his plan calls for tax credits and subsidies to make healthcare affordable for all who want it.

Beyond this, the plans are very similar in terms of opening healthcare to pre-existing conditions, public/private options, etc.

Hope this helps!

OBAMA BACKER   July 17th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

Ok so how does he expect to win Hillary supporter by making fun of her #1 goal in politics? Then on top of that he shows he true colors on abortion FOR ALL OF YOU PUMA FOLKS. And all he seems to do is talk bad about Obama but offers no coherent ideas himself. He entire strategy is NOT TO PROVE HE IS THE BETTER CANDIDATE BUT JUST TO MAKE YOU DISLIKE OBAMA MORE THAN HIM. POOR JOHN MCBUSH.

OBAMA 08-12

James_A, WI   July 17th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

America is to greedy to have universal healthcare for it's own people. Look how they do the elderly and disabled with Medicare.

Bob Stephens   July 17th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

Better be careful, McNasty, and not tick off Obama. next thing you know, when he is President, he will cut off your Viagra supply, the way you voted against Birth Control. Next thing you know, Cindy will be heading for the local singles bar….

Grand Rapids, MI   July 17th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

Ouchhhhh! He just lost another bearing :)

FactCheck   July 17th, 2008 4:36 pm ET

> The YouTube video of the women writhing on the floor in New York
> that everyone has seen is a good preview of Obama's healthcare plan.

Yeah, I'm sure that if she had McCain health care "tax credit" she would've died long before she ever got to a hospital.

58-year-old white woman   July 17th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

McCain is so clueless that he thinks we can "pick" which insurance company we use. Most people have to take whatever their workplace offers. Buying insurance as a private single person is horribly expensive. He doesn't know this because he has been on government insurance since birth through his father in the military, and then his military insurance. He can't use a computer, doesn't understand insurance or social security or hard times financially.

He doesn't know or understand enough on a practical level to be president.

Typical White Person   July 17th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

Ronal Regan had it right. The most frightening thing you can here is "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

McCain = mouthpiece of the Bush handlers?   July 17th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

T.Boone Pickens is 80 years old and I'd rather have him as President than McCain. This is something much worse than age, I fear.

The only people who can seriously think having McCain in office are those Bush handlers who simply want a man in front of the curtain…

America? Are you really listening? How can you NOT be afraid?

Casey in Tecumseh, Mo.

Sue   July 17th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

No government health care. Since I am over 70 years old, I will be on Obama's short list for euthanasia with the excuse being the government can't afford to provide health care for seniors, just for younger people. And, you know what? You will all reach senior status and euthanasia if the poorly run government health care allows you to live that long….

H-ROD   July 17th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

ALL IS AND ALL HE'LL EVER BE IS A LYING IDIOT AND VERY OLD OLD MAN WHO NEES HIS WIFE MONEY TO MAKE IT

Ian   July 17th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

If he's trying to win over HIllary's supporters, I'm guessing insulting Hillary is not a good way to go about it.

David Newport, OR   July 17th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

Great Job McCain…push those Democrats that were mad because Hillary didnt get the nod away. Can you say IDIOT? I love it when you give people rope and they are too stupid but not to hang themselves.

Here you go PUMAs.

rachel   July 17th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

Awwh what's wrong McCain? Hillary wont stump for you?

CLINTON 08 VP   July 17th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

OH GRAMPS, I THOUGHT YOU WERE SENILE, NOT STUPID…

UNITED WE'RE STRONGER

OBAMA (P) & CLINTON (VP) 2008-2014

NO TO "BUSH II" (MCCAIN), McWAR, "BUSH'S-INTENT-FOR-2ND-PARADE-IN-IRAQ"

JOey   July 17th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

lol. How come I don't see any PUMAs talking?

Tony from Torrington   July 17th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

Hillary tried socialized medicine many years ago and it's the same old same old. All of you libs who think Obama's plan will be better for you, just make sure you have plenty of money to bribe doctors when you really need them and they tell you you'll have to wait 6 months for your emergency visit due to all the people who are in line ahead of you, including illegals from Mexico and South America, and Europe.

Linda31   July 17th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

There goes the "my friends" line again. McCain, can you please talk about what you would do instead of constantly attacking. The attacks are now becoming more funny than anything else.

judy, Wisconsin   July 17th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

I'll take either Hillarycare or Obamacare anyday rather than the nocare policy of the Republican War party. They can't spend $15 billion/month fast enough on an unnecessary war for a so called "victory", but any help for our own citizens or new ideas to improve this country is an "entitlement" (dirty word). I believe the PUMA people are the Rush Limbaugh chaos dittoheads, but will welcome them to the light too–vote for Dems!

Democrats Unify & Vote Big   July 17th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

PUMAs are REPUBLICANS posing as Democrats trying to work the division angle. Basically amounts to Operation Chaos, Part 2. They've got to know McCain is putting his foot in his mouth – yet once again.

Gary   July 17th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

I wonder what is the median age of Obama's supporters? Most of the above comments, if not all, are childishly inmature. You are in for a crash landing when your idol makes it to the WH. Yes, sir your boy will not only save the planet Earth but will bring all of his idolaters to the land of milk and honey. You can dream because that is all you have, who will you blame when your idol does not deliver the goodies that you are expecting? Someone is going to have a last laugh, it won't be the Obamatons!

Educate yourselves, watch Fox News!

Hispanic For McCain   July 17th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

Hispanic Nation for McCAIN
Latinos open your eyes OBAMA is not for US!!!

Hispanic and the Latinos Razas for McCain!!!

Robert - Atlanta   July 17th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

Mcsames favorite quote of "My firends" is driving me insane. This man could care less about the average American. The only reason he is in any form of politics is to protect his wifes empire in Budweiser which recently sold to a Belgian company. Now, show me how he cares about us.

Independent-woman-4-Obama   July 17th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

People will vote for McCain, the same 28% of America who STILL believes that Bush/Cheney have done a "fine" job. The ditto-heads-the-hate-and-fear-mongers will vote for McCain.

This people, refuse to acknowledge that in the wealthiest nation on earth the NUMBER ONE REASON FOR PERSONAL BANKRUPTCY IS MEDICAL BILLS!

With the $650 BILLION spent yearly in Iraq, we could easily insure everyone!

tom   July 17th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

Ben,

Were is your logic.

Most of the prosperous countries have universal health care like Switzerland, Austria and all of Europe. Maybe it makes good sense to have healthy people and provide health care for our citizens like other rich countries. Or we can just spend billions in Iraq every month-now doesn't that make sense. Talk about bankrupting our country.

White Independant   July 17th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

Puma it's not sexism that won't allow Obama to pick HRC. It's the fact that she is a completly corrupt politician with way to much baggage to be anything but a hinderance to his desire to change how things are done in Washington. The fact that she is going on trial for fraud out in California can't help her cause either. The fact that she hasn't already been in court for these charges is only because a judge appointed by Bill postponed the trial after the election can't help either. She won't be able to serve as V.P. from a prison cell. Just because she wears pantsuits and not a suit doesn't make her any less corrupt.

no-longer Happy in CT   July 17th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

unfortunately this won't get talked about like the NEW YORKER cover… or the "bitter" -comment….

This won't make it on the air!

-V

What happened to Democracy?? NoBama   July 17th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

And PUMA is NOT FAKE you idiots. Trust me…its very real…and we are NOT Republicans!!

Caycee   July 17th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

So much better than the McPain Plan.

Julie   July 17th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

No problem McCain, you can call Obama's plan "Hillarycare" and we'll just call your plan "NonExistent" – how's that work for ya'?

What does McCain actually stand for these days? It's hard to tell, all he does is criticize Obama, offereing nothing noteworthy.

What happened to Democracy?? NoBama   July 17th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

McCain just shot himself in the foot w/ Clinton supporters. He better be careful where he steps.

Ex-Republican for Obama   July 17th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

If you have ever watched the Movie with Michael Douglas and Richard Dreyfuss, as candidates for POTUS….McCain is Richard Dreyfuss.

He has everything to scare you, a person to blame for everything. He can name who's to blame for all your problems, but can not offer up a single solution. Watching his 'Town Hall Meetings' is painful, the man does nothing but blame the world for our problems, refusing to recognize that these problems have worsened during his own parties ruling.

Get off the bus old man, you are nothing but hot air.

Obama for answers, McCain for whining!

Joseph, Los Angeles   July 17th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

Attack! Attack! Attack! All he does is attack! Does McCain have any ideas of his own? At least Obama is putting something out there. McCain has yet to draw me in on anything he proposes.

skunkrat The Marine   July 17th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

one day McCain praises Sen. Clinton and the next he attacks her. He boast about his ability to reach across party lines and then make partisan insults aimed at firing up his right wing base. The man is a total IDIOT and I don't see how the voters can trust him.

Cynthia   July 17th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

Senator McCain you are talking about what Obama's plan offers – we would rather hear what yours offers. Viagra?

Robert   July 17th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

OK…for all of you uninformed out there. They have successfully used skin cells for stem cells to help people and they have actually been MORE effective than embryonic stem cells. Of course, the media doesn't report about this because it goes against abortion rights. As for government run health care go do some rezsearch on countries that have it and you will find that people die on waiting lists that can run longer than 2 years for major surgical procedures. In the UK, you have to wait 6 months for a mammogram. Ask any woman how that would make her feel…I am guessing not very comfortable.

Marguerite, NYC   July 17th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

Way to get HRC supporters… NOT! I agree that McClueless has no plans of his own so he just continues to bash Obama's, except when Obama turns out to be right & then he wants to follow the leader. McSame's time is done.

Phil, FL   July 17th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

See what happens when he doesn't get his nap? Stop trying to wake him up too soon. It's another day before he can sleep 48 hours.

Michigan   July 17th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

By the way, were/ I'm not voting base on what a candidate said about another candidate I supported. I'm voting on who's going to be a better president.

I'm a undecided voter

Will-South Dakota   July 17th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

Sure he's against Universal healthcare…….the big insurance companies own McSame/Bush, he has no choice to go against this becuase Universal healthcare would help Americans. McSame is owned by big healthcare, drug companies, lobbyists.

Cal   July 17th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

Funny, the republicans main complaint against Hillary's universal healthcare was that the level of coverage/care would decrease and be too expensive to implement. Fast forward 10 years and the insurance industry controls what doctors can do and my costs have tripled in the last 3 years. I guess McCain thinks no plan is better universal healthcare. As long as insurance companies make huge pofits on our health he's okay with it.

Dennis Coles   July 17th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

Good job, Johnny-

THAT'LL get you th PUMA vote!

Mr. Bill   July 17th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

Yeah, he says "we're not going to do it again" – like we ever gave it a chance. Same BS, different Republican.

Clinton Supporters for McCain-Ohio   July 17th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

We, former clinton supporters, are supporting John McCain because he is devoted to protecting america! His healthcare plan is better than Obama's! I promise you, come November 4th people will be so amazed on how Clinton Supporters won McCain Ohio and Pennsylvania. People do not see it now but they will and I cannot wait to vote for John McCain!

Canadian for OBAMA   July 17th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Ben,

It's the war in Irak that'll take you to bakruptcy.

In Canada we have had universal health care for decades now and our country didn't go bankrupt, in fact, we are doing better than we ever have.

THINK ABOUT IT!!

The Voice   July 17th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

He's complaining about 50-60 million? Why don't they just remove the oil subsidies from the record profit oil companies and problem solved. Instead they are giving the oil companies more land to extract for free. This is a joke.

McCain is serving Bush's third term. This administration and this party are oil moguls that's it! They don't care for the average American, only big business. This mafia needs to end or America is doomed.

Democracy not imperialism in 08!

Bridgette-PA   July 17th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

Did we forget how McCain spoke about OBAMA yesterday when speaking to the NAACP? I knew it was all fake. Listen to him now. LOL….he's such a wimp. He shouldn't have cared if the crowd was prodominently African American or not, if he's really the "straight talk express", he should speak his mind! Another name to add on to the many others…….MCWIMP!

OBAMA / SEBELIUS -08!

Ian   July 17th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

The government is already all over the healthcare system. Where do you think HMO's came from?

Michigan   July 17th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

How could this be a slap in the face to Hillary Clinton supporters? Ofcourse McCain and Hillary Clinton doesnt see eye to eye on everything, but neither does Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. If we vote base on what one candidate said about Hillary Clinton, I'm sure we would find out that Barack Obama have said alot more than things like this.

I'm a undecided voter

AN HONEST AMERICAN   July 17th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

oh no, we can't blame mcsane for his ignorance and stupidity…what I say is blame it on his age.

Go Democrats!

What!!!   July 17th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

"Alimi July 17th, 2008 3:38 pm ET

Aparently the McCain campaign is very confused about how to label Obama. Yesterday, they compared Obama to George Bush, and earlier today, they tied him to Rumsfeld. Now he is being compared to Hillary? What they failed to realize is that with each perjorative comparison, they alienate sympathisers of the people with whom they are comparing Obama."

That is because no one is sure who he really is!

David Husein Schultz in Chicago   July 17th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

How can Repubs be happy with a government run police department that is put there to protect your life yet, they are against a government run agency that SAVES your life and keeps you healthy? How can you be against that? Public schools, public prisons, public firemen, public police, public health… what is there to be confused about?

uh?   July 17th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

better than "bush"whacked

OldUncleTom   July 17th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

I didn't need this help to decide, but I hope a lot of Clintonistas are paying attention to McOldGuy's words.
Four years is a long time to be sorry about a mistake, if the old codger manages to survive that long, but if he does not, his VP will likely be even worse (think Bush/Quayle, Bush/Cheney).

When gambling on our nation's future, shouldn't the smart money be going on someone who has one to risk?

Maybe I'm wrong, and the correct choice really is this poster-child for term-limits… but I doubt it.

Power to the People = Former Repug   July 17th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

Where are all the vociferous Pumas. Not the fake PUMAs in repug skin.
McCane will take your vote and thank you by saying:
Well My Friends, My Puma Friends, I like your vote but HILLARYCARE will be under the Straight Talk Express BUS-Jet again when I become President.

Peter of Oregon   July 17th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

McCain's a candidate for the PUMAs.

R.A.P.   July 17th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

Thank you Bill Clinton. McCain got a GOD complex War, War 3 and calls Obama health care plan 'HillaryCare'. The people scream for help Republicans are silent. OBAMA hear the sound uptown, downtown around town YES WE CAN,YES WE CAN,YES WE CAN,YES WE CAN,YES WE CAN,YES WE CAN,YES WE CAN

Greg   July 17th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

Anyway you cut it, national healthcare is one more step towards full-on Socialism. The problem is that America is NOT a Socialist country! My problem is that Democrats clearly embrace Socialism as the "answer" to all of America's problems…where is McCarthy when you need him?

Socialism is Un-American!! If you don't want to work, I don't care…but I sure don't want to pay for your healthcare!!

MD   July 17th, 2008 4:11 pm ET

The more McCain distances himself from her, the better it is for Obama!

No McBUSH   July 17th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

I'm glad Obama is incorporating Hillaries Health Care plan!!

Time to UNITE !!!

Susan from Scotts Valley, CA   July 17th, 2008 4:09 pm ET

Rick, Obama doesn't want to touch YOUR health care. You have health care. He just wants to make that all of those Americans without health care have health care.

I can not believe that true Hillary supporters would prefer McCain by either voting for him or staying home. Like SHE said, her supporters have nothing in common with McCain. If you supported her when she was in the race, support her now.

California Gold   July 17th, 2008 4:08 pm ET

The govenment does quite nicely operating health care. They've been running the military's health care system for decades. And no one complains about the money spend to do so. As a taxpayer I would like my taxes to pay for health care for all Americans and they can simply use the military's health care system (no need to reinvent the wheel).

Chanda-Cincinnati   July 17th, 2008 4:08 pm ET

To Ben:

The War in Iraq will bankrupt this country long before Universal Healthcare has a chance to be tested!!!! How many billions a year is our Gov. spending over there again? Oh yeah…close to 500 billion!!!!!! Meanwhile public school children are sharing books do to lack of funds!!!!

CAA   July 17th, 2008 4:08 pm ET

McCain at it again. What is interesting is his support for stem cells only as it pertains to skin cells. Isn't that just so selfish – what with his skin cancer and all! Perhaps if he didn't have anything of the sort he wouldn't be supporting this research at all!

AT   July 17th, 2008 4:08 pm ET

mCcAIN IS SENILE, HE FORGET JUST YESTERDAY HIS CAMPAIGN MET SIWHT SO CALLED HILLARY SUPPORTERS…I SMELL ARAT? The so called supporters are REPUBLICANS! WESCHESTER COUNTRY NY IS REPUBLICAN COUNTRY!

Ron   July 17th, 2008 4:07 pm ET

Interesting for Senator McCain to make those comments about Senator Clinton's health care reform. While have been a strong supporter of Senator Obama, I always thought that Senator Clinton's health care proposal was far better. To see Senator Obama embrace it only solidifies my support for him.

CD   July 17th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

CNN Please POST THIS!

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAH! HAHAHHAHAHAAHA! hahahahahahah!

Go ahead PUMAS and other angry women who refuse to see reason, go ahead and vote for your daddy grandpa "the Mac" McCain.

AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH! hohohohohohoho! hahahahhaahaha!

HillaryCare? Who is fooling who? John is calling you all stupid by laughing at Hillary's health care policy because he believes he knows women can act strangely and think like they always do so that is why he is trying hoodwink all of you. Obama said it but you guys were to biased to listen to him. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Heather   July 17th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

Hahaha, this idiot. He can kiss Hillary's supporters bubye.

sherry for Obama   July 17th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

RIGHT ON BULLDOG!!

OBAMA IS OF SOUND MIND AND JUDGEMENT

MCCAIN IS OLD AND SENILE

JD   July 17th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

Government employees are the best! so motivated, so caring – just like those folks at the DMV or the IRS!!

I want MY doctor to be on the government dole instead of being a self-motivated entrepreneur!!

CNN = Jerry Springer of news   July 17th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

McWar must be stuck in the 90's again thinking he can make these kind of statements about Hillary's health plan and abortion in a town hall and they will not be plastered all over the internet for all the disappointed Hillary supporters to read. He can't actually think this helps him unless his new campaign move is to 'rattle the base' into coming out to vote.

This year even Republicans are looking for more moderate views, which is why I think they went with 'Maverick' McCain in the primaries, but now that he has taken a hard right turn, the GOP supporters don't know what to do. He can't win the election on neocons/religious right alone. If the Republicans had a 'do-over' they would be going with Romney right about now. At least he understands the economy.

Don   July 17th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

Please do not denigrate what Hillary had in mind for universal health care.

ANGIE   July 17th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

Lisa
you really have not been paying attention to obama have you his healthcare plan is similar to hillarys just not so universal go back to his web site read it sloooooooowly and try to understand jeeez girl do you have any brains!!!

Toledo, Ohio   July 17th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

Oh Ben you think it would bankrupt this country like wars, oil, China, and contracts to Halliburton? I ask everyone to show facts and not just post moronic comments. Please.

chelsea   July 17th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

Why are so many people so-anti government. The government has a major role to play in the health care system. Medicare and Medicaid work fine, why not expand these. The governemt was instrumental in the electrification, highways and railroads for this country.

sherry for Obama   July 17th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

I GUESS ITS SAFE FOR HIM TO ALWAYS SAY "MY FRIENDS" I DONT THINK HE KNOWS WHO HE IS TALKING TO HALF THE TIME

Danel   July 17th, 2008 4:02 pm ET

Think about it. MCCain's claim of spending $50-60 billion dollars a year for health care is NOT good, how come we can spend $12 billion dollars a month in Iraq? If we get out soon we could save those money and have plenty of dough left over for the school, road and bridges repairs to go around. His logic is suspect to me.

therealist   July 17th, 2008 4:02 pm ET

It has been shown repeatedly that 1 out of every 3 tax is wasted! What has the government done right!?

Thomas, Illinois   July 17th, 2008 4:02 pm ET

oops..Bye bye Clinton supporters…(What a moron)…

dAVE   July 17th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

Hey McSame – 68% of Americans support universal healthcare. So good luck with that in November.

And Ben – our government pays many times MORE per person for healthcare than countries with universal, single payer healthcare (they also live longer, healthier lives) but don't let facts and common sense get in the way of your anachronistic and backwards hysteria about universal healthcare, mmmkay?

DAREN IN MIAMI   July 17th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

Gee,Thanks for the votes McCain!!!! You sure know how to blow it

Lisa   July 17th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

For Michelle Obams to be a wife and a mother, she should know that all American need health insurance.

I'm well aware that her and her rich friends and supporters have excellent benefits but it's not about her and her friends it's about American people.

So Michelle if you knew how to handle your household you should tell that stuck up Husband of yours everyone needs medical insurance.

Vote Nader   July 17th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

"Universal" Healthcare is one of the few issues I don't agree with Mr. Nader on. The healthcare system sucks, but giving control to the government is a bad idea. The government subsidizing part of the cost, maybe.

And Brian from Sugar Land… Why do you need the government's helps taking care of yourself and your family? What''s wrong with doing it yourself? You shouldn't have had that 11 year-old if you can't.

** Nader/Gonzalez 2008 **

rightytighty   July 17th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

Nothing more than Universal Health Care wrapped up in a different colored package..

JD   July 17th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

Free healthcare for everyone, and no one has to pay for it!! Why, it's just magical!!!!

SIGH, isn't he just DREAMY?

Mike from Westchester   July 17th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

Typical White Person July 17th, 2008 3:43 pm ET

The YouTube video of the women writhing on the floor in New York that everyone has seen is a good preview of Obama's healthcare plan. King's County Hospital a public hospital run by the city of New York.

Socialized medicine does not work.
_______________________________________________
This would be a relevant comment if Obama's plan involved nationalizing our health care system. It doesn't. Your screen name says it all. The facts are not important to you, just your dislike of Obama. You have six months to learn how to say his first name…… President!

What is McCain promising to do to improve our very broken health care system? Anything?

USHOUSE   July 17th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

Whenever any one wants to show off a knowledge of Obama's proposals for his administration, please be my guest. I imagine you will have difficulty since the fine Senator has altered his previous positions to get elected by voters who are in the middle of the spectrum and not on the far left/right. Each comment is so unoriginal and is exactly what the media spins out, for you only to regurgitate mindlessly. I guess one would expect such a result on a CNN blog, but even the ones that seem to be more intelligent have foolish spelling/grammatical errors. Do a service to yourself and stop wasting time on a blog that has no impact at all on the election and open a book, preferably one that will tell you that sympathizers is spelled with a z. End of Lecture.

sue   July 17th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

This man is the last person on earth who should dare make any critizisms of universal health care. HE HAS HAD THE EQUIVILENT OF UNIVERSAL CARE ALL OF HIS LIFE. Born into a military family, navy career, VA care, and now Senate care.
COME ON!!! Is he saying he's had lousy care all of his life from the government?

Bill, Streamwood, IL   July 17th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

It's still better than anything Senator McCain has legislated or Candidate McCain has proposed.

Charlie, Odenton, MD   July 17th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

I believe it is now obvious reading these comments that there are more Obama supporters that have nothing better to do than bash everything and everyone else. I swear every story on this news site has comments that follow it, and non are Republican based. Maybe thats because us hard working Republicans dont cheat our employers by surfing the net and basing Obama all day.

Lisa   July 17th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

Hurry someone ask him about Viagra again, so he can be stunned and speechless again, he is better off that way!!!!!!!!!

ANGIE   July 17th, 2008 3:58 pm ET

Why is it mccain doesnt talk about the things he is gonna do the only things he does is bash obama and then when he finds that obama has been right like more troops in afghan talking with iran he follows him around like a lost puppy copying obama mccain it is sad you waste your money time and breath at your speeches only bashing obama as far as the hillary healthcare did it ever dawn on any of you with obama as potus will actually help hillary possibly put this through along with all of her other policies!! DEMS UNITE VOTE OBAMA FOR HILLARYS SAKE!!!!

TF   July 17th, 2008 3:58 pm ET

I thought McDummy was trying to court the Clinton supporters. This guy is the worst I've ever seen. No wonder his own party doesn't like him.

Pumas aren't Democrats, So Stop Using OUR Good Name   July 17th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

I am still laughing about this one! I would LOVE to see the face of someone seriously considering him over Obama because they "support Clinton". Seems like you guys are always losing, huh? Maybe its why you're so bitter and cling to things (like the primary season). You can't vote for who you want, and the person you are voting for out of spite, says derrogatory things about the person you claim to support. Interesting. Now I'm sure I'll come back later and read some ignorant posts about "Clinton/PUMA people" who are going to say something that has nothing to do with the article, but mocks Obama. Have fun being thrown under the Straight Crap Express. The rest of us are moving on to the White House.

Obamanation 08!

Independent in Iowa   July 17th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

Ben:

The war and president Bush have already bankrupt this country. I was considering McCain but he is very wrong on this issue. If we can afford a multicountry occupation, we could pay for care for a sick child.

R.I.F.   July 17th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

Hey PUMA puppies, I guess you can strike McCain off your list too. That leaves Barr or Nader. The guy just made fun of Obama's plan by making fun of Hillary's nearest and dearest goal of universal healthcare. If you love Hillary so much then why in the world would you vote for someone that just basically took a shot at her?

rob10001   July 17th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

OK ,PUMA, Together 4 US, and all you other traitors to Democratic Party ideals, swallow that one from McCain. Why can't you just accept that Hillary came close, but just no cigar?

Katherine   July 17th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

Somewhere in middle America, another chided ex-Hilary supporter rips off her McCain bumper sticker on her caravan and sticks an Obama sticker in its place. Thanks McCain!

bij   July 17th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

"typical white person" i think it's very disrespectful of you to bring up that woman in the manner you did. She was neglected by absent minded hospital workers and it has nothing to do with health care. have some more respect for the woman and her family

Puffin   July 17th, 2008 3:55 pm ET

Why is he always so cynical when it comes to improving standard of living here in America? Obama wants to reduce the costs of health care insurance. What is wrong with that?

Or, do we need to beef up the DOD budget? I know most projects estimated at $500 mill are now running at $1.5 billion. Why does not he talk about that?

Independent in Iowa   July 17th, 2008 3:54 pm ET

I'm not an Obama fan but we NEED universal healthcare. It is insane that we will pay for a child's education but refuse to keep them healthy.

We can spend billions upon billions of dollars on a senseless war but we cannot take care of our own?

McCain – you are flat wrong on this one.

Kim   July 17th, 2008 3:54 pm ET

The Health Care plans of Rock Obama and Hillary are totally different.
But McBush does not care. People without health care are just a bunch of whiners anyhow.

Pat Riot   July 17th, 2008 3:54 pm ET

Brian G, Sugar Land, TX, is that the governments job to take care of you from cradle to grave? What you're talking about is communism/

Gene   July 17th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

Those who wanted Hillary's plan… that is the very definition of socialized medicine. I don't see anything wrong with Obama's plan. Obama is just offering a government subsidy to make sure all children are covered, but he still throws the responsibility upon the individual adult to be responsible and get health care.

Has McCain even offered 1 single solution to our healthcare problem other than to insult Obama's (and now Hillary's).

Where are all those wonderful "if not Hillary, then McCain" people so far? Usually they're the first to post nasty comments about Obama.

Lisa in GA.   July 17th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

Well.. well well McCain…..lets see you try to spin this…or will you not remember you said it!

don't kid me   July 17th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

MCCAIN WAS STATING A FACT, THAT HISTORICALLY IN 1993 IT WAS CALLED HILLARYCARE. SO WHAT?

Christopher in TN   July 17th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

I hope the embittered Clinton supporters who say they will stay home or vote for McBush are paying attention. It would be insanity to send this Neanderthal to the White House. Surely Hillary Clinton would agree, and support of McSame by those disappointed by the outcome of the primaries is an insult to everything Clinton has and, it is to be hoped, will accomplish in the future.

earl   July 17th, 2008 3:52 pm ET

at least Hillary considered, and still considers "Universal Health care"

Greg, Brattleboro, VT   July 17th, 2008 3:52 pm ET

Poor McSame + McBush! He is clueless!

Pat Riot   July 17th, 2008 3:52 pm ET

Bravo, hit this one right on the head. The government has no place managing our healthcare or keeping our records. This will only result in higher taxes, inefficiency and low quality care.

As for abortion. I believe the federal government has every right to ban it. We were a country founded on the protection of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. We must protect the rights of the unborn. Ladies this is not a decision about your body this is a decision about a child's body. Having an abortion no way betters your body. All it does is alleviate a complication that you were prepared to risk but not prepared to own up to. Being adopted from birth I will welcome any arguments on this topic. We must protect all life.

Ben   July 17th, 2008 3:52 pm ET

Universal Health Care would bankrupt this country.

Go McCain!

Hans-Erik Iken   July 17th, 2008 3:52 pm ET

McCain also went out of his way early in the event to trumpet his opposition to abortion rights and a called partial-birth abortion a "hideous procedure that should never be allowed anywhere on earth." He promised "active advocacy for the rights of the unborn."

So now this SOB wants to determine what happens in other countries as well?

Stay the hell out of my country McCain, we decide for ourselves what is what is not allowed. This arrogant bugger sounds more and more like Bush everyday. Then the republicans wonder why the USA government is hated around the globe. They should use their oney to buy a clue.

We love the american people but we really hate their current administration. Fortunately our Euro's are buying a lot more oil then the dollar these days thanks to the mismanagement in the White House…..

arc, Lugano CH   July 17th, 2008 3:51 pm ET

Many of Clinton’s supporters and the cougar pumas will still vote for McCain; even after this and whatever other attacks of her policies that he has planned. How else can they justify the gang-rape analogies that they use to attack anyone who opposed their candidate?

John McShame, Obama Is Going to Tax You & Cindy, but Not Me & 95% Americans Making < $250,000/Yr   July 17th, 2008 3:51 pm ET

This is the HONEST feeling & DISRESPECT McShame has for Hillary!

To all you Hillary soooooooore losers….here is your man, McSenile!

gerrard   July 17th, 2008 3:51 pm ET

How is it no response from PUMAs….usually you all would be all over any item with Obama's name like bees to honey. Still trying to figure out how to blame Obama for for this freebie from McCain I bet.

Len in Washington   July 17th, 2008 3:50 pm ET

Here's a question for McCain.

Insurance companies won't cover me because of my medical condition, no matter what I might be able to afford. How will your plan help me? I'll tell you….it won't…and I'm not alone out here. You have nothing to offer me and others like me when it comes to this most important issue.

Listen Up...   July 17th, 2008 3:50 pm ET

He probably just didn't recall that he was supposed to be trying to winover HRC supporters. Everything else aside, I'm worried that people will ingore what seem to be dwindling capacities and vote him in. We've had all this time to roast the candidates over a spit, but would not have as much time with his VP. A vote for McCain is a vote for his VP to become the next Potus.

Gramma Faye /Idaho   July 17th, 2008 3:50 pm ET

This is one of my problems with McCain. We need an upgrade in medical coverage as we all grow older and to be able to raise healthy children that will be taking over running this country. There are to many fingers in the pie that drives up medical costs and it is not research. I am not for Canadian type care but something has to be done and I don't see anything out there I like. Hillery came the closest. Obama leaves out to many people. Every one should have the coverage that Congress and the Senate have. They are no better and some are not as good, than anyone else.

Rick   July 17th, 2008 3:50 pm ET

Hey Obama, keep your grubby mitts off of my healthcare. You already want every nickel that I make. Now you want to tell me who and where I can go for my health care? Why don't you go back to organizing kickball games on the playground instead of trying to play with the big boys.

Bulldog   July 17th, 2008 3:49 pm ET

First McCain said Obama was irresponsible for saying he would attack Al Queida in Pakistan if their was solid intelligence. Since calling Obama 'irresponsilbe' our miliarty has attacked Al Queida 4 times in Pakistan.

McCain calls Obama naive and reckless for wanting to set a timetable to get out of Iraq. Next thing you know the sovereign Iraq government demands we set a timetable.

McCain calls Obama reckless and an appeaser for saying he will sit down with leaders of countries unfriendly to the U.S. 3 months later the U.S. successfully appeases and negoitiates with N. Korea ('axis of evil') and they begin to dismantle their nuclear plants.

McCain and Bush call Obama an appeaser and irresponsible for saying he wants direct diplomacy with unfriendly countries rather than threats of war. Just yesterday the State Department announces they are sending a top level official to Iran to sit down and have direct talks.

Who has the judgement?

Eric   July 17th, 2008 3:49 pm ET

And what's your idea McCain give tax credits? yeah, doing that will just make companies up their rates that much more because it's free money to them. At least if there was a universal plan it'd give the insurance companies a run for their money.

Open Your 3rd Eye   July 17th, 2008 3:49 pm ET

Hillbots where are you???

Did you here what he just said?!!

LOL

Lisa   July 17th, 2008 3:49 pm ET

This is the #1 reason I voted for Hillary instead of Obama. Obama has absolutely no health care plan what so ever. Everytime ask an Obama supporter what his health care plan is not one person can explain this to me. If there is someone out there that can explain his plan please inform me. The only answer i ever receive is look at his website. Looking at his website does nothing for me, it's all talk and no substance just like the candidate Barack Obama.

Hillary wants health care coverage for every American Obama does not!

Hillary 08

Rob, Canada   July 17th, 2008 3:49 pm ET

I find it mind-boggling that Americans are so afraid of universal health care. Obama keeps getting called a liberal, socialist, etc., but he is still to the right of a lot of other countries' governments.

Tony   July 17th, 2008 3:49 pm ET

McCain is grasping at anything he can to criticize.

He's and old man with old ideas who has got much else to go on.

The rantings and ramblings of an old fool!

Oren Ovadia, California   July 17th, 2008 3:48 pm ET

For those who know P.U.M.A, we will stay home and not vote!!! We rather see Obama losing, than see him without Hillary on the ticket. Less people will vote to Obama, more chances, he will go back to the Senate with his head down!!!

Michael   July 17th, 2008 3:48 pm ET

VERY VERY Bad move Mccain!!
You would probably be getting more Hillary supporters if you had a better healthcare policy, instead you attack. Very sad, now we're going to be left with Obama!

Susan from Scotts Valley, CA   July 17th, 2008 3:47 pm ET

Whether you are a Hillary supporter or not, these are two reasons that women should NOT vote for McCain. Health care is a huge issue for women and he's basically said that he's not going to even go as far as Obama has proposed much less as far as Hillary proposed (which is to make sure EVERYONE is covered). And he's now making it clear how he feels about Pro Choice. He wants to do away with it.

Democrats, Independents and all women…We have to keep him out of office.

helen   July 17th, 2008 3:47 pm ET

With his wife millions he certainly can get healhcare.

Patrick Henry   July 17th, 2008 3:47 pm ET

Clearly the details and impact to the millions of health insurance employees and the beneficiaries are just as important as the tax issues.

I'm not convinced any politician has the answer.

But it should not limit choice (even if you choose not to have insurance), and premiums should be based on income–then subsidized by the government (if the government is to be involved at all) to make up for the difference.

This would be much more practical than universal single payor–and not destroy a very important industry that employees millions of Americans at home and abroad.

Tom   July 17th, 2008 3:47 pm ET

Does McCain care about women's votes? First the viagra moment and now this. He's destroying whatever small chance he had to get the remaining 10% of HRC voters. He's a disaster!

BR   July 17th, 2008 3:47 pm ET

We are going broke as a country, but let's add anywhere from $50-$100 billion in annual costs to the budget. Awesome. Maybe we should just make welfare a full time job.

HF in CA   July 17th, 2008 3:46 pm ET

I think it's about time McCain took a stand for something…anything! Problem is that he's been so down-the-middle, so bi-partisan, he's alienated some GOP folks too. I'm glad he finally said something about abortion (why I'll NEVER vote Dem) and finally said something against ObamaCare/HillaryCare.

Everybody seems to think they know everything Obama's planning, and I'm glad McCain offset himself from his opponent.

NickNas   July 17th, 2008 3:46 pm ET

As I have said before ..everytime McCain says "My Friends" he is setting up a HUGE lie or holding back obvious barely controlled anger.

His letter that fired his last staff started with "My Friends"

ProudToBeDemocrat   July 17th, 2008 3:46 pm ET

Did you hear John Mccain Joke about the woman who is attacked on the street by a gorilla, beaten senseless, raped repeatedly and left to die? When she finally regains consciousness and tries to speak, her doctor leans over to hear her sigh contently and to feebly ask, 'Where is that marvelous ape?'"

Mccain joke about waterboarding? How about the one about killing Iranians ? And why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?

His spokeswoman said at the time he didn't recall telling the joke, something his current spokesman, Brian Rogers, reiterated to Politico.

The president of the National Organization for Women, Kim Gandy, however, suggested that a series of McCain jokes about women, the rest uncontested by the campaign, suggest a serious lack of respect.

Micah   July 17th, 2008 3:46 pm ET

I thought he was trying to win over Hillary supporters? Way to go John.

NOOBAMA   July 17th, 2008 3:46 pm ET

I really like him, as well as everyone in my newspaper delivery job.

Here is an economic fact under the McCain Health Plan:
As more people try to purchase health insurance b/c their jobs will not do it, prices will increase (like oil b/c of demand). Prices will not decrease because everyone needs them and the supply is not there unless more health insurance companies go into the business. Hence, the market cannot take it. Would prices stabilize? Sure, but the costs will never be the same due to newborns and baby boomers getting older, because of the need for more medical treatments.

Anna, SW Missouri   July 17th, 2008 3:45 pm ET

Does McCain mean now that it is more important to save the child instead of the mother? I agree that this is the only time it should be used, but the law needs that exception. I think the Catholic Church agrees that the doctor should save the mother, but I am not Catholic so someone please tell me if that is true.

Ryan   July 17th, 2008 3:45 pm ET

Guess what, mindless drones, neither are any good. And, PUMAs are not going along with the current stupidity of the Democratic Party.

The Bu   July 17th, 2008 3:44 pm ET

This from the man who is courting former Hillary supporters. Hhhhhmmmm!!!! So, maybe some of her former supporters who haven't backed Obama yet need to pay attention to this guy. He means you no good!

To All Former Hillary Clinton Supporters:
VOTE FOR BARACK OBAMA 2008

His healthcare plan is a lot closer to Hillary's than John McCain's will ever be. At least birth control would be covered along with viagra!

Richard, St. Paul, MN   July 17th, 2008 3:44 pm ET

Funny how he never says anything factual or cogent about what he plans to actually do. He just keep parroting the same ol' same ol' boring rhetoric we've been inundated with from FoxNoise. I'll bet McClone just cribs notes from Fox after he's had his Alzheimers medications….

Typical White Person   July 17th, 2008 3:43 pm ET

The YouTube video of the women writhing on the floor in New York that everyone has seen is a good preview of Obama's healthcare plan. King's County Hospital a public hospital run by the city of New York.

Socialized medicine does not work. If it did, Canadians wouldn't be crossing over to the US to get medical treatment.

j williamson   July 17th, 2008 3:43 pm ET

It shows how much Republicans wanted to run against Hillary – she won't be the nomine but, what the heck, run against her anyway. Seems a little desperate to me.

Louis   July 17th, 2008 3:42 pm ET

He always talks like this when he misses his nap.

Sheri   July 17th, 2008 3:42 pm ET

McCain: Please don't comment Sir your healthcare plan in no wise compares to Obama's or Hillary's. McCain your healthcare plan STINKS FOR EVERY AMERICAN.

Kris K from CA   July 17th, 2008 3:42 pm ET

McCain thinks it is a good idea to tax health care benefits -does he mean premiums or the actual value of the benefits? That is scary.

Deb, Allentown, PA   July 17th, 2008 3:41 pm ET

No matter whether you agree with O's plan for healthcare, I would hope that Hillary supporters who are threatening to vote for McCain now realize what a mistake that will be.

In case you're not picking up on the nuance, his term "HillaryCare" is a slap in the face to your chosen candidate. Do you really want to give your vote to this man?

If you can't, in good conscience and for whatever reason, vote for Obama, at least be somewhat loyal to your candidate and stay HOME on election day.

And answer this question, please, in an honest manner. Wouldn't it be better to see Hillary in a position in Obama's cabinet, if not as VP, where she could be an effective, positive force in the direction of the country?

ProudToBeDemocrat   July 17th, 2008 3:41 pm ET

The Arizona senator argued the government should fund research on stem cells — especially skin cells

Mccain for every thing that would benefit him think about the above statement "especially skin cells", this would benefit him for his skin cancer.

FactCheck   July 17th, 2008 3:41 pm ET

This coming from someone whose idea of health care is giving each family a $5000 tax credit? Yeah, good luck trying to get anything meaningful with all insurance companies stuck on "pre-existing condition" exclusion mode. Better take care of that nagging cold today… while you can still afford to.

Daniel   July 17th, 2008 3:40 pm ET

That's right Obama's policies are similar to Hilary's that why many of her "supporters" are gonna vote against their interests and vote fore Mcsame in Nov. Please…..

McSame is gonna get a spanking in Nov.

Obama 08 & 12

ooops   July 17th, 2008 3:40 pm ET

Ok, you are trying to pull the Hillary supporters to you by belittling Hillary? Excellent logic, McAdvancedInAge.

rom, NY   July 17th, 2008 3:40 pm ET

PUMA is fake, they are nasty republicans !!!

Lesley   July 17th, 2008 3:38 pm ET

How does he know what Obama's record was in the Senate when he can't even remember his own record! Like saying that he voted for something and then come to find out he didn't vote on it at all. Which votes does he consider extreme? He blusters but doesn't have the facts to back it up. Let's hear specifics. And at least Hillary tried to tackle the health care system, something the Republicans haven't done yet!

Gorbashov   July 17th, 2008 3:38 pm ET

And this old mans solution to our failing health care system is more of the same!

McSame = WRONG on:

Health care
Iraq
SCHIP
Abortion
Minimum wage
Torture
Trade
most important issues out there!

McBush = WRONG FOR AMERICA!

Voice of Reason   July 17th, 2008 3:38 pm ET

Amusing to say that he 'avoided' the word Embryonic when talking stem cells. I dont think it was intentional, its just doubtful that he could pronounce it.

Regardless, McCain knows that there's no better way to get the Right-wing-talk-radio crowd fired up than to connect something to "Hillary" in some way. He could tell them that she sleeps in a coffin during the day and they'd believe him – or that she supports health insurance for little kids, and they'd vote against it.

There's no honor in pandering to the already-brainwashed.

Save yourselves! Study the issues and vote your conscience!

Jasmyne   July 17th, 2008 3:38 pm ET

Well. I hope this shows those PUMA idiots how John McCain really feels about their girl.

Alimi   July 17th, 2008 3:38 pm ET

Aparently the McCain campaign is very confused about how to label Obama. Yesterday, they compared Obama to George Bush, and earlier today, they tied him to Rumsfeld. Now he is being compared to Hillary? What they failed to realize is that with each perjorative comparison, they alienate sympathisers of the people with whom they are comparing Obama.

Mike, ATL   July 17th, 2008 3:37 pm ET

I thought he was trying to court hillary supporters?????

ILUVOBAMA   July 17th, 2008 3:37 pm ET

That seems like a smack in the face to all you hillary supporters who are supporting McSane…

DEMOCRATS PLEASE UNITE

We just can't afford to waste this election by voting for another Republican.

cherrystrawberry   July 17th, 2008 3:37 pm ET

You P.U.M.A.S Better choose carefully!

Go BAMA!

Linda   July 17th, 2008 3:37 pm ET

We should be so lucky to have Obama share ideas with Hillary!

tedious898   July 17th, 2008 3:36 pm ET

Its so hard being respectful to this senor citizen. I know he's trying to be president, but can he bring up a subject on his own?

Why is his only chance to be president is to make Barack look bad?

Hey Americans….let's shock the world and hire the smart guy this time.

Niky   July 17th, 2008 3:36 pm ET

Since he doesn't have any sensible policies of his own, all he can do is keep attacking Obama on his policies.

Mohamed   July 17th, 2008 3:36 pm ET

the richest nation on planet earth cant take care of its own citizens medical issues how are we suppost to lead the world mr McBush? i wonder how much did he got paid to say " We're not going to have the government take over the health care system in America." Another Reason why America hates washington.

Tom   July 17th, 2008 3:36 pm ET

There's your man once again PUMAs, he is now mocking Hillary's universal health care plan and acknowldges that Obama wants to deliver it….again I ask: how can any sane democrat vote for this guy? It would be an insult to Hillary herself, the man has no regard for her policy positions whatsoever.

Pick Me! Pick Me!!   July 17th, 2008 3:35 pm ET

I think that his McCain's voting record for Veterans is far more extreme than Obama's.

McCain: ‘I Received The Highest Award From Literally Every Veterans Organization In America"

The recognition McCain has received from veterans groups is not "high awards" but failing grades:

Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America gave McCain a grade of D for his record of voting against veterans. (By contrast, Obama got a B+.)

Disabled Veterans of America noted McCain’s dismal 20 percent voting record on veterans’ issues. (Obama had an 80 percent.)

In a list of "Key Votes," Vietnam Veterans of America (VVA) notes McCain "Voted Against Us" 15 times and "Voted For Us" only 8. (Obama voted for VVA 12 times, and against only once.)

john   July 17th, 2008 3:35 pm ET

Well PUMA here is your candiate.

NC Man   July 17th, 2008 3:34 pm ET

The GVT can't even run the plans they have in place now …. Leave health care out of the hands of the GVT!! The last thing we need is GVT provided health care.

Kevin Leo (Jonesboro, GA)   July 17th, 2008 3:33 pm ET

Just to be clear…McCain has been actively seeking Hillary's supporters and he basically endorses Obama to Hillary's legion by saying that his healthcare plan is akin to hers?! This one is just too easy!!!!!

McCain = McSame = McClueless!!!

Ms. RDS   July 17th, 2008 3:32 pm ET

I watched his speech today and I can say that I didn't come away with one plan McCain actually has. He spends so much time talking about what is wrong with Obama's plans while not even talking about his own. Is that b/c if we actually payed attention to his plans we would forget we were watching a town hall meeting and think SNL was on. He seems to be the one that's all talk or criticism and no plans.

John Griswell   July 17th, 2008 3:32 pm ET

Good luck pulling in the Hillary supporters.

Alex   July 17th, 2008 3:30 pm ET

hey thats great for your PUMAs…wow im sure they gonna like thats…

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