July 17, 2008
Posted: 04:15 PM ET

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McCain holds a polling edge over Obama on national security issues.
McCain holds a polling edge over Obama on national security issues.

KANSAS CITY, Missouri (CNN) – John McCain took a rhetorical baby step toward declaring victory in Iraq on Thursday, arguing emphatically that "we have succeeded in Iraq."

"I repeat my statement that we have succeeded in Iraq," McCain told reporters aboard his campaign bus in Kansas City. "Not 'We are succeeding.' We have succeeded in Iraq."

McCain made the comments amidst a debate this week over the direction of the Iraq war, and in the wake of new national poll numbers that show McCain with a clear advantage over Obama on national security issues.

Both candidates gave speeches Tuesday outlining new policies toward Afghanistan, but each presented very different plans for Iraq. Obama is scheduled to travel to Iraq as part of a congressional delegation in the coming days.

"The strategy has worked and we now have the Iraqi government and military in charge in the major cities in Iraq," McCain said. "Al Qaeda is on their heels and on the run."

McCain said "the success we have achieved is fragile and could be reversed" if Obama — whom McCain accused of "incredible naivete" — carries through with his plan to withdraw combat troops within 16 months of taking office.

"He said the surge would not succeed," McCain said, a charge he has repeated in recent days. "It is. He said that we had to have dates for withdrawal. He said as recently as a short time ago that the surge had not succeeded, or was not succeeding. It has succeeded. And if we continue, I am confident we will win this war, and I have no doubt about it."

The GOP nominee-in-waiting also backed away from a remark made earlier in the day by his communications director Jill Hazelbaker, who called Obama's trip abroad "the first-of-its-kind campaign rally overseas."

Asked if he agreed with Hazelbaker's comment, McCain said: "No. All I can say is, let other people judge that."

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Rob   July 17th, 2008 6:28 pm ET

Wasn't the whole point of going to Iraq to find WMDs? Did we find them? Uh no. So how is that success?

So what DID we succeed at? Losing 4,000+ soldiers? Wasting billions if not trillions of dollars? Allowing the real culprits of 9/11 to roam free?

Republicans make me sick.

Obama 08: white, 60 year old woman   July 17th, 2008 6:27 pm ET

Please McCain Surrogates: remind your leader that there was no real Al Queda threat in Iraq before America invaded.

All you "we" won in Iraq should be ashamed of yourselves unless you have encouraged your family and friends to enlist. This war is being fought by a miniscule number of brave men and women who are on their third and fourth tour. This war has demonstrated America's vulnerability as the military is so tied up in an illegal invasion, that we are unable to send more troops until SEPTEMBER and they will be the same ones who are fighting McCain's invasion of Iraq.

Such a victory!

Vietnam Vet   July 17th, 2008 6:25 pm ET

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!!!!!!!!
(UHH what was that mission again?)

OBOY will shrub be PO'd that he wasn't the first to announce it.
did general petraus give mcCan't on the ree phone? But it's not 3am!
Oh yeah that's past McSnooz's bedtime.

That would be red phone

SUZANNE   July 17th, 2008 6:25 pm ET

JOHN MCCAIN IS AN IGNORANT FOOL AND HE'S TO OLD TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT….GOD HELP US ALL IF HE IS ELECTED..

OBAMA ALL THE WAY!!!!!! OBAMA 08 OUR NEXT PRESIDENT!!!!!

CB   July 17th, 2008 6:24 pm ET

VICTORY!!!!!!!!! Isn't that what McSame has been wanting to claim all along. Because he is mentally unable to LEAVE IRAQ until he's personally declared it!

So go ahead McSame, declare "victory" – the American public will buy it – just like they bought WMD's.

I don't hear anyone calling BUSH an appeaser for agreeing to talk to IRAN – do you?

Hypocrites!

Anonymous   July 17th, 2008 6:24 pm ET

JOHN MCCAIN IS AN IGNORANT FOOL AND HE'S TO OLD TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT….GOD HELP US ALL IF HE IS ELECTED..

OBAMA ALL THE WAY!!!!!! OBAMA 08 OUR NEXT PRESIDENT!!!!!

Done with GOP   July 17th, 2008 6:24 pm ET

YES WE HAVE SUCCEEDED IN BUILDING BETTER STRONGER MORE COMMITTED TERRORISTS! I AGREE

Vietnam Vet   July 17th, 2008 6:24 pm ET

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!!!!!!!!
(UHH what was that mission again?)

OBOY will shrub be PO'd that he wasn't the first to announce it.
did general petraus give mcCan't on the ree phone? But it's not 3am!
Oh yeah that's past McSnooz's bedtime

Rob in North Carolina   July 17th, 2008 6:24 pm ET

I really can't tell them apart. McCain is Bush Cheney morphed into one.
What a great loss of a politician I used to admire and support in 2000.

Obama is our nation's godsend to redeem our country from the Bush Cheney debacle.
This is coming from a former republican turned independent.

Vietnam Vet   July 17th, 2008 6:19 pm ET

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!!!!!!!!
(UHH what was that mission again?)

AT   July 17th, 2008 6:19 pm ET

McCain now want to spell success because OBAMA, GATES AND THE GENERALS all see Afghanistan as the issue. McCAIN is trying to sound like he has judgement, but he is always 3 step behind,…yet because America is so bigoted as a society, I will have to see what takes place in November. McCain is "half dead" and yet, most white Americans would rather have a hal dead white man who is an empty suit and "fake hero" in charge that the honest leader who has judgement and is both black and white. America is about to self-distruct with John McCain at the helm!

OBAMA 08, 12

Nate   July 17th, 2008 6:16 pm ET

Yes!!!!!!! Finaly somone tells the truth about conditions on the ground in Iraq instead of spouting the liberal media's lies and half truths.

Gene   July 17th, 2008 6:13 pm ET

How many times do we have to "succeed" before we stop calling a withdrawal of troops a "surrender"?

John from WA   July 17th, 2008 6:12 pm ET

This is a joke, right? The Iraqi government hasn't even met the extremely soft benchmarks the Bush Administration laid out. When you have the Sunnis refusing to participate and the Kurds walking out of Parliament, it's hard to buy McCain's election year B.S. Or is he just laying cover for when the Iraqis officially ask us to get the hell out, kind of a "declare victory before they send us home" strategy?

Rob   July 17th, 2008 6:11 pm ET

In an above post. Rick said that democrats don't get it. That the Middle East is a big dangerous Cess Pool. Yes Ricky we do get it. It is a Big Cess Pool. And we do not want to swim in it .

Karen - Missouri   July 17th, 2008 6:09 pm ET

And by what measure did we succeed? This is McCain's silly season politics once again. McCain never did tell us the definition of "succeed". All for politics and election season. Iraq is still spending OUR money on their country, they have OUR military still there, there's still bombings and killings, so how exactly did we suddenly in a couple days "succeed"?

Ted   July 17th, 2008 6:08 pm ET

EPIC FAIL!
Are continuing deaths success?

Puzzled   July 17th, 2008 6:07 pm ET

Tut tut, the same old tedious name calling and Democratic Party orthodoxy. The only appropriate response to these mediocrities is a protracted yawn.

Jim Got, Ohio   July 17th, 2008 6:07 pm ET

McCain says he knows how to win wars. I wish he would whisper what he knows in the ears of George W. Bush so we can get out of this mess in the Middle East. However, the war Senator McCain was in, Vietnam, I don't think we won…………

Rob   July 17th, 2008 6:05 pm ET

After we leave Iraq, which we must and we will. A very huge mistake wil surface. Our Air Force in order to keep Iraq and Afghanistan dependant on them and to keep their political position of importance among our own Armed Forces. Have completly failed to revive the combat capability of the Iraq and Afghan. Air Forces. If we have learned anything from our recent wars. It is that air cover is vital for ground forces to be victorious. After we leave and the Iraq military forces struggle without air cover. The Generals and politicians will all be pointing fingers at each other.

NoMccain   July 17th, 2008 6:04 pm ET

Basic questions to any Republicans out there:

What does Mccain mean by "succeeding in Iraq?"

Why are we even in Iraq?

I'll bet this is why you lose in November.

What if?   July 17th, 2008 6:03 pm ET

ok, mcbush…right before election time we are succeeding, sounds like an echo from his twin…..how many times do you, mcbush think we the people can be fooled with this type of flip flopping?

i mcshame would like to echo this make believe success story about iraq for the next few months until after november when i have lied my way to become commander and chief.

Abul   July 17th, 2008 6:03 pm ET

Remember OBAMA said McCain lost his bearing!!! Ithink he was really modest. McCain is crazy and too old to remeber anything what's going on.. how this guy can run the country? No wait a minute BUSH is running this country so anybody can…. GOD PLEASE HELP the REPABLICAN , GIVE THEM SOME BRAIN….TINMANs

Terry Richmond, Va.   July 17th, 2008 6:02 pm ET

Will someone please wake grandpa up? He's DREAMING!!!

LMAO   July 17th, 2008 6:01 pm ET

his national security pointage will go down after this

Rick from Chicago   July 17th, 2008 6:01 pm ET

Obamalism,

McCain has mentioned the non-existant (for roughly 15 years now) country of Czechoslovakia a verifiable 7 times … AT LEAST.

And THIS is the guy you want to run the country – a guy who's mind is obviously unfixably stuck in 1994?

Dubya bombs the WRONG country and your guy wants to defend a country that every other world leader knows isn't around anymore.

He'll want to defend Babylon next!

Feeling like a "moron" yet Obamalism?

If we're doing so GREAT in Iraq, then why did Petraeus (the newly promoted head of Central Command thus the top commander in the Middle East) just tell congress that regarding the progress of the Iraq war:

"we haven't turned any corners, we haven't seen any lights at the end of the tunnel."

How about now Obamalism?

And why did Petraeus also spin like a top and refuse to answer when asked repeatedly "Is what's going on over THERE making us safer over HERE?"

Isn't that the whole reason Dubya said we were over there for the past 5 years? To make it safer over HERE?

NEWSFLASH: Even Petraeus wasn't bragging about how GREAT things were going over there!

So how about NOW Obamalsim? Felling like a moron NOW?

LOL! You definitely should be!

Will, NJ   July 17th, 2008 5:58 pm ET

Mission Accomplished, Jonny boy?

M.S. Indiana   July 17th, 2008 5:57 pm ET

J.P. and how many did we have before 9.11 ???

Bring our Troops home McCain !!! or are you just pandering again ?? using empty words for your empty suit ??

Hey what happened to Iran McCain ?? we can talk to them now ??

Mr. Obvious   July 17th, 2008 5:56 pm ET

The Iraq War has ruined our economy. Weakened our Military. Made our dollar worthless. Caused oil prices to sky rocket up. Killed over four thousand fine young Military Heroes and maimed thousands more. Created a Shiite Government in Iraq that likes Iran a whole lot more than they like us. Recruited thousands of young Arabs who did not hate us before to go to Iraq and fight us because we were invaders on Arab (Homeland) soil. Etc etc.

bob   July 17th, 2008 5:53 pm ET

if iraq is a success, then we have no excuse not to remove the troops :)

Chris   July 17th, 2008 5:53 pm ET

Well if we've won, we can withdraw right McCain?

Jonathan   July 17th, 2008 5:53 pm ET

LOL
YES IN MURDERING THOUSANDS AND GAINING CONTROL
OF THEIR OIL!

GO REPUBLICAN'TS

Will-South Dakota   July 17th, 2008 5:52 pm ET

LOL……My Friends…..when will the Iraqi's pay for this, when will they do thier own rebuilding, when will they take over their national security, when will they rebuild their own utilities and pay out of their oil reserves? When that happens it can be called success.
What about here at home where Americans need help? McSame has no answers to America's needs.All he offers is criticisisms if they go against Bush.

Denise Groves   July 17th, 2008 5:52 pm ET

How have we succeeded? If we have, why is Mccain still wanting to keep troops there

RR   July 17th, 2008 5:51 pm ET

We have succeeded in Iraq! But yet you want to stay and spend 10 billion dollars a month? McCain….YOUR A COMPLETE IDIOT!!

RJ, CA   July 17th, 2008 5:50 pm ET

Let's face it — there will be no success in Iraq unless Lord Obama says there is! After all — he was a constitutional lecturer and a community organizer who managed to get a day-care center funded in Chicago! Who need generals? Who needs anyone else to tell us what's going on? Lord Obama knows all!

Meanwhile, the "silent majority" — those who don't bother to blog or waste their hard-earned money on Obama's campaign — just sit back, laugh, and will silently vote in droves for McCain in November. And — dang! — they're probably old, too!

Will-South Dakota   July 17th, 2008 5:49 pm ET

LOL……Mr Friends…..when will the Irqi's pay for this, when will they do thier own rebuilding, when will they take over their national security, when will they rebuild their own utilities and pay out of their oil reserves? When that happens it can be called success.
What about here at home where Americans need help? McSame has no answers to America's needs.All he offers is criticisisms if they go against Bush.

Obama 08: white, 60 year old woman   July 17th, 2008 5:47 pm ET

McCain's war has succeeded in over 4 000 American deaths, countless Iraqi deaths, millions of displaced Iraqis, a depleted military in soldiers and equipment, a walled city of Baghdad, increased hatred of Americans, tens of billions of dollars in debts, big bucks for Halliburton and an increased war in Afghanistan.

Oh yeah, McCain says the surge was good because now the strategy can be used as a rehearsal in Afghanistan after SEVEN years.

Moe, NY   July 17th, 2008 5:46 pm ET

If Iraq succeeded then BRING OUR SOLDIERS HOME NOW! I, for one, do not believe a word that comes out of this warmongers mouth.

john il   July 17th, 2008 5:45 pm ET

this is also saying we took over germany in ww2.but hitler got away.

It's a done deal   July 17th, 2008 5:43 pm ET

Then we can leave … right?

john il   July 17th, 2008 5:42 pm ET

how ,and what did we win .where is osama at. this is all i ask .

Lesley   July 17th, 2008 5:42 pm ET

Whoever gets into office will surround himself with advisors, whether it's national security or whatever. Obama had shown good judgment and foresight on his own by voting against the war in Iraq in the first place and his global policies of reducing violence in the world by strategic diplomacy with allies and foes alike, the Afghan thing, and talking to Iran, which the Bush administration is now doing. In other words looking at the big picture and not just running to put out fires all over the world as they crop up. Why does the idea that he has naive national security policies persist? Just because McCain says so? Obama has shown better judgment than McCain, who a few months ago didn't think we needed to work on Afghanistan. All the while terrorists were regrouping there. And the "surge" worked partly because of increased troops but mostly because we paid Sunnis to fight for us not against us, the terrorist groups imploded themselves by turning on their own people, the leader of the terrorist army agreed to a cease fire, and our troops finally after years of begging got the MRAPs and other equipment they need to reduce their slaughter. John McCain voted in favor of the war but not in favor of properly arming our troops. With his claimed military superiority he of all people should have made sure the troops were protected, but he didn't. Let's stop listening to his hype and do a reality check.

Jann, Denver CO   July 17th, 2008 5:42 pm ET

Everyday I think "this guy can't get any dummer" and every day he proves me wrong.

Truth Be Told   July 17th, 2008 5:41 pm ET

There really is a meaningful difference this year between the two men vying to be president.

One wants it so badly that he lied about his intention to run.
The other was willing to sacrifice it out of love for his country.

And, in the final analysis, it is that difference that makes all the difference. All the difference in the world.

RB   July 17th, 2008 5:41 pm ET

OK. I have to say it. JOHN MCCAIN IS A SENILE FRAUD!

Eugene   July 17th, 2008 5:41 pm ET

Funny, I thought success meant you had defeated armed opposition (still active and spawning elsewhere and encouraged by our occupation), in which case we can leave a peaceful, orderly Iraq behind. If that is not what we have done, why use the word "success"? Hundreds of thousands of dead Iraquis, a tattered American image, thousands of wounded and widowed soldiers and families would have a hard time calling this war a success.

Gary of El Centro, Ca   July 17th, 2008 5:40 pm ET

Mission accomplished…….right John? You're a little late with that one, as your "other half", George, declared that years ago.

P P Hernandez, Sunset, Republic of Louisiana   July 17th, 2008 5:40 pm ET

Per DPerry's comment – yes 911 was during Bush's term, as Pearl Harbor was in FDR's. American troops are stil in Japan, Germany, and Italy. So are you suggesting we loose in Iraq or win the war and the peace like a great generation before us?

skunkrat The Marine   July 17th, 2008 5:39 pm ET

McCain is a liar, we will never WIN in Iraq. The people of Iraq are the only ones that can win. Mccain will have to eat those word soon just as Bush did. He realizes that the JCS is preparing to shift the focus to Afghanistan so like Bush he declares victory. Bad move McWar.
Sen. McCain please tell the American people exactly what in your military experience qualifies you to say "I know how to win a war"? You never commanded a Combat unit only a Training Squadron, you spent 95% of you time in the VietNam war as a POW and other than NAM you have no other experience in a hostile environment.
Sir you are ling and you know it. Your records indicates that you were not even a competent Pilot. You crashed almost every plane that you flew. Being an old mentally disturbed ex-POW doesn't make you a Commander in Chief or even qualified to be such. Stop ling to the public and stop trying to run on your not so stellar Military record.
You are not a Hero Sir, You are a former POW. A Hero would not have made 32 propaganda tapes for the enemy. It is what it is.

Joseph Adewole   July 17th, 2008 5:38 pm ET

Americans are respected everywhere on earth for their intelligence and knowledge; one still wonder how John McCain managed to manupulate Americans to this stage; John has never been involved in any combat; the fact that he was ordered to carry out a sortie which failed and he was shot down did not make him to know anything about war.
He talks of security, war, and foreign experience, all because he was a pilot in Vietnam during the war there; how did that make him a war hero? I never knew Americans can be deceived to this extent.
Talking about war and foreign experience, we can see that Barack will handle all these well better than John because he is educated; he does not need anyone to interprete a written document for him unlike John whose qualification cannot be made public because he has none except that he was a pilot in AAF.
It is high time Americans elected a very educated person; enough of meaningless jagons in the public. We have seen this in Bush; that is why economic situation in America is in tartterstoday.
Bill Clinton is highly educated, we all saw how he handled economic situation during his eight-year rule – briliantly!
Americans should think of how to better their conditions in an educated politician than following someone whose education cannot be made public.
The ball is in your court across the Atlantic, we are watching you from here in Europe………God bless America and Americans.

Wisconsin   July 17th, 2008 5:38 pm ET

Hey McSame,

What color is the sky in your magical world.

kayla   July 17th, 2008 5:38 pm ET

after six years you better be doing something good in iraq. that is a long time for you guys to do something there.

What the...   July 17th, 2008 5:37 pm ET

Wow, the United States of America presidential candidate claims war over Iraq! You're next Greenland!

What have we won? High gas prices, a terrible reputation around the world as a bully super-power, 4,500 dead US soldiers and a poor economy. Sounds like a great deal. Shouldn't the worlds #1 super-power be able to beat country's like Iraq? Should we even be trying and boasting about it?

Independents should learn from past voting mistakes, get this guy out of here.

Old white woman for Obama   July 17th, 2008 5:37 pm ET

If we have success in Iran then bring our children home now. What a load of bull!
Just a sound bite McCain and we do not buy it!
Obama 08

FactCheck   July 17th, 2008 5:36 pm ET

> Thsoe who deny the success of the surge in Iraq

Umm.. who exactly is denying that there was a surge in Iraq. The US sent more soldiers into Iraq, therefore there was a surge, get it? Maybe you should leave the big talk to the grown-ups in the room.

Joseph   July 17th, 2008 5:36 pm ET

I'm so sick and tired of people always bringing up that "we haven't been attacked since 9/11 so Bush is doing a good job" but when was the last time we were attacked by terrorist? NEVER they waited until our weakest point with a weak president to attack because they knew exactly what he would do which is what he is doing SPENDING THE COUNTRY TO THE POOR HOUSE. How do think that the U.S.S.R. fell by fighting wars that didn't end how do you think that Britian fell by fighting wars that didn't end and how do you think we will fall …….. I have to give credit where it's due last time you guys posted my message and I thank you for it, let's try for two.

Pete in Reality   July 17th, 2008 5:35 pm ET

So wait. Almost 5 years after Mission Accomplished, we've succeeded? Wow! Really? That's great! Amazing! Dripping with sarcasm!

I wonder if anyone watching him fell asleep, like he did during the state of the union address. That would be appropriate.

FactCheck   July 17th, 2008 5:34 pm ET

Put him in a bomber jacket and stick a "Mission Accomplished" banner behind him and the transformation is nearly complete.

Mike, Syracuse NY   July 17th, 2008 5:34 pm ET

Iraq was a mess. McCain said we needed more troops, Obama said no. We did the surge. Iraq is now stable. McCain=right, Obama=wrong. The Chairman on the Joint Chiefs says he's ready to recommend withdrawing more troops and sending them to Afghanistan. Iraq says they are ready for them to leave. All because of the surge. What part of this don't you Obamites get? Oh, and NOW Obama decides he likes the surge, changes his web site that used to be against it, and says we should do it in Afghanistan. If we had done it Obama's way, there would be no surge, no stability, and no troops free to shift to Afghanistan.

Independent-woman-4-Obama   July 17th, 2008 5:32 pm ET

REALLY???????? WE HAVE SUCCEEDED?????????????????????

PRIOR TO THE SURGE, WE HAD 130K TROOPS ON THE GROUND, AND NOW WE HAVE 150K …… SUCCESS??

IS IT SUCCESS WHEN WE ARE PAYING $1.38 A DAY???

IS IT SUCCESS WHEN WE ARE SPENDING $650 BILLION A YEAR IN IRAQ????

IS IT SUCCESS WHEN OUR NATION, THANKS TO BUSH/CHENEY-AND-THE REPUBLICANS IS IN DEBT …….. $10 TRILLION???????

Dan   July 17th, 2008 5:32 pm ET

Seriously Senator McCain, try not to defend Bush. It just won't get you to the White House.

Ken in Dallas   July 17th, 2008 5:32 pm ET

Why is it now time to declare victory?

We've declared the escalation (oops, "surge", sorry) over, even though we still have 20,000 more troops in place than we started with, so why not.

At this rate, when McCain pulls troops out of Iraq completely, there'll still be about 50,000 that will have fallen off the books by then. Is outsourcing the troops to Blackwater just like winning?

Wasn't there supposed to be something about political stabilization somewhere in the definition of victory? Oh, we changed our minds about that? Never mind.

The Republican modus operandi relies more on changing how we talk about issues than on changing the actual issues on the ground. That means we could have declared victory at any time during the past five years, and it would have meant just as much then as it does now.

Wisconsin   July 17th, 2008 5:30 pm ET

….

Good News everyone!

I declare an end to world hunger!

Now no one will go hungry.

All you have to do is randomly declare it and it's true!

Gunar   July 17th, 2008 5:28 pm ET

He wants another Vietnam. He still pissed about not being able to raise his arms above his head

OBAMA 08 + 12

Erin in Edmonds WA   July 17th, 2008 5:28 pm ET

The day after Barak's very excellent and highly intelligent foreign poiicy speech, George Bush has stolen Obama's ideas about negotiation without precondition with Iran re: nuclear proliferation. He is also going to take troops out of Iraq and send them to Afganistan–straight out of Obama's mouth into GWB's ear. He is drastically shifting position in order to garner more votes for John McCain. If he starts what Obama is talking about, then McCain can say–I'll continue the war where it needs to be (ib Afganistan) and negotiate with Iran. As the Iraq war vet once said on national TV: GWB really is a "Chicken Hawk S.O.B." So is JM.

Republican White House – NEVER AGAIN.

joe   July 17th, 2008 5:26 pm ET

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahah mccain what are you talking about?

Samuel   July 17th, 2008 5:26 pm ET

OK!!! This is a waste of vote. John McCain, what are you trying to say. Clearly the war is not won in any way, type or shape so why is John McCain saying this to the American people. No wonder 200 journalist from the US are going to follow Obama to Europe, Iraq and to the Middle east. Do something real and interesting.

Get serious or else you will lose like never before in the history of America.

Vegas Barbie for Obama   July 17th, 2008 5:26 pm ET

We have succeeded????? I must have missed that memo, but I want to know what hallucinogen McCain is taking to make him so delusional…must be a wonderful world…like in Czecholoslovakia!

Stephen of Red Bluff, CA   July 17th, 2008 5:26 pm ET

EXCELLENT POINT, Tired of W…

If we've succeeded now, then a gradual, 16-month removal of troops should pose NO PROBLEM. If we're in such great shape over there TODAY, then there should be no issue with bringing them home 21 months from now (which is today plus the 16-month-from-inauguration start date proposed by Obama).

It doesn't quite fit, Senator McCain. It all sounds a bit too convenient for your campaign. Sound bytes are fine, but we've had enough of those from Bush to last well into the next century!!

Bring us some hard truths! Bring us some honesty!! We're not idiots and we're through buying all the BS the GOP and Bush administration has been shoveling.

whiner   July 17th, 2008 5:25 pm ET

then we have no need for you,right?

mike   July 17th, 2008 5:25 pm ET

THERE IS NO WIN, THERE IS NO VICTORY, WE LOST IN IRAQ THE DAY WE WENT INTO IRAQ.

Damian Salter   July 17th, 2008 5:25 pm ET

Oh, unless he means succeeded in killing and displacing hundreds of thousands of civilians, creating an unstable oil market, putting an un-nessesary strain and burden on the US economy and military…

… then he's not lying!

Truth Be Told   July 17th, 2008 5:24 pm ET

Thsoe who deny the success of the surge in Iraq are the same ones who deny Obama's Muslim backgound.

arc, Lugano CH   July 17th, 2008 5:24 pm ET

Success in a war based on a lie. May God Bless the soldiers who have lost their lives for the Bush/Cheney crusade of 'freedom'. May God bless the women, children, and non-combatants who died alongside them.

I hope that the soldiers who come home are taken care of in the manner that they deserve and that every one of their needs is met.

This is not a time for catchy one-liners no matter who you support in the General Election.

Obamalism   July 17th, 2008 5:24 pm ET

It's amazing how angry people are that we're doing well in Iraq…

Keep proving that you're the party of defeatism.

Rick   July 17th, 2008 5:23 pm ET

You democrats are such simpletons. Do none of you have the ability to think beyond tomorrow? The entire region over there is a big cesspool and presents the biggest long-term security threat to this country especially Iran which just happens to sit smack-dab in between Afghanistan and Iraq. An ally or two in the area just might be helpful in the future. Oh, and by the way, if we were to follow the dems advice and allow the Islamists to take over you lefties would be the first to go because besides hating non-muslims they hate feminists, they hate gays and they hate abortion supporters.

Obamalism   July 17th, 2008 5:22 pm ET

Seriously, I haven't heard Harry Reid spouting 'DEFEAT' in the last few months. Has that guy been right about ANYTHING since the Dems took over Congress???

kim hussein taylor portland, oregon   July 17th, 2008 5:21 pm ET

"Our military is too good for the government that put them in harm's way.

Come home safe — and soon."

AMEN!!! AND our troops and their families MUST be given all opportinities they have EARNED for themselves and their families—excellent health care, college tuition, mental health care, EVERYTHING they need to make their transitions home as smooth as possible!!!!

the GOP's treatment of our military is INEXCUSABLE, DISGRACEFUL, AND ILLEGAL!!!!!

DPerry   July 17th, 2008 5:20 pm ET

Ex-republican……….I agreed with everything you said. Just making a point to J.P. Although from what I know, Bush had the same intel that Clinton had, just didnt pay any attention to the memo entitled "Osama bin Ladin planning attack on US". Mistake??

Pa Voter   July 17th, 2008 5:20 pm ET

words, just words.
SHouldn't we speak to the generals on the ground first?
John, Show us that you believe this by announcing your plan to immediately withdraw troops from the our occupation of Iraq.

Damian Salter   July 17th, 2008 5:19 pm ET

Did you see that?
He just lied through the back of his teeth!

What a sad fall from grace.
Where is this man's rock bottom?

Furious George   July 17th, 2008 5:19 pm ET

JP- we have not been hit by an asteroid either-and your point is?
You seem to forget that 9-11 happened on Bush's watch. How that has been turned into a plus for this administration is one of the great mysteries of all time

Kyle in San Diego   July 17th, 2008 5:19 pm ET

Bulldog… extremely well-said.

As for you, McCain, I give your impression of Bush an A. The only thing more you needed was the "Mission Accomplished" banner and you would have had that A+!!

david,baltimore,mamryland   July 17th, 2008 5:18 pm ET

Is that why we have to stay there 100 years ,becuase it is so safe? Why doesnt he go to Baghdad and try walking thru a market without Apache helicopters flying overhead and armored personnel carriers surrounding him.Hey Mccain,most Iraquis cant afford that kind of protection to do a little shopping.
This guy is going to lead our country? Yeah John we won in iraq but you are not going to win this election unless you stage a coup by bringing the troops back over here to install you,those troops that arent committing suicide or rotting in VA hospitals that you dont support.

Obamalism   July 17th, 2008 5:18 pm ET

Bushed – We've pretty much had a dictatorship for 7 years.

You sir have no idea what a dictatorship is. Ask the people of Iraq what it's like, then hang your head in shame. Don't drop your tinfoil hat while your at it.

Ms. RDS   July 17th, 2008 5:16 pm ET

I mean I consider myself to be very smart…but even I just don't get it. Didn't we proclaim "Mission Accomplished" oh i don't know say 5 years ago. So didn't that mean we won? And if we won why do we still have over 100,000 troops there? And if we already won why does McCain still keep saying he is going to win the war? And what was the mission of the war? Wasn't it to turn over the government to the Iraqi people? Well if they asked us to turn over their government to them and leave, why are we still there? And if the surge worked, then why can't we leave? I thought it was too bad so we couldn't leave, now is it too good that we can't leave. Geesh, I'm getting dizzy so many questions not enough answers from McCain or Bush.

Obamalism   July 17th, 2008 5:16 pm ET

Wow, the obamatards are STILL using the 100 years remark. You really do prove what morons you are everytime you type it.

prairieguy   July 17th, 2008 5:16 pm ET

If we have succeeded…then why do we need to remain there on and on and on….DUH???

McSame has lost his bearings once again!!!!!!!

You already adopted Barack's Afgan plan and Bushie is now talking with Iran…you better get on board before the O train leaves you behind…even have a walker to help you get to the train on time -:)

NoMcSame   July 17th, 2008 5:16 pm ET

PUMA people here is your boy. He has truly lost his bearings and a whole lot more.
McSame for the PUMA People.

maxx Atlanta GA   July 17th, 2008 5:16 pm ET

Mcsame doesn't get it, we should never have been there and there would not have been a need for a surge. And for those that are not educated 9/11 happened as a direct result of this adminstration ignorance of listening to its own intelligence reports…Obama listens to everything he is a Commander in Chief not self serving. Iraqs war is this administrations failure to comprehend, and you want more of the same. Mcsame wanted war before 9/11 and now they have scraed you to death….. have you ever asked what is the win whats the prize for the families of their love ones that have died for individuals of the govt not for its country….. what is winning please tell me!!!! Maybe Haliburton think about it. Lets get out of there enough is enough…….

Benjamin Columbus, OH   July 17th, 2008 5:15 pm ET

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, AGAIN???

Phil Newton, Murphy, OREGON   July 17th, 2008 5:15 pm ET

We have a fine military. I am proud of them. They have done exceedingly well under trying circumstances — but they have fought a war that should never have begun.

If McCain wants to call that "success," then he is welcome.

Our military is too good for the government that put them in harm's way.

Come home safe — and soon.

What?   July 17th, 2008 5:14 pm ET

This rivals "Mission Accomplished"

Stephen of Red Bluff, CA   July 17th, 2008 5:13 pm ET

I like how CNN never once (twice, or THREE times) mentioned–on air–McCain's "Czechoslovakia" slip up, yet when Sam Nunn says it, Wolf Blitzer practically makes it Breaking News!!

When did CNN become the enemy of Democrats? Are they over compensating for all the claims of a perceived liberal bias??

Campbell Brown, whom I've always enjoyed watching, has been particularly negative toward Obama while seeming to play up a McCain positive or side-step anything that would put him (McCain) in a negative light.

JIM...TX   July 17th, 2008 5:13 pm ET

Don't quit…are you nuts??? The Republicans are ALWAYS in favor of a war. It keeps their corporate buddies busy building bullets and bombs to kill innocents. McBush would NEVER as he has said(stay 100 years) get out of Iraq!

Cindy   July 17th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

Hmmm.. shouldn't there be some sort of treaty or something? You can't just say it's done and then like magic, it's true. That's kinda like "Mission Accomplished" on a battleship, and yet the battle goes on.

Jan Illinois   July 17th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

If thats the Truth BRING OUR SOLDIERS HOME NOW. If you want to have ANY chance at the Presidency of the UNITED STATES its your only CHANCE MR. McCain. Good Luck Sir.

ashe   July 17th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

we have succeeded in creating BIG MESS in Iraq.

Plugging my nose   July 17th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

Perpetually repeating a lie doesn't eventually make it true. Didn't the neo-cons learn anything from "WMDs"? They didn't fool us; it was a lie all along. So is this "We've succeeded" nonsense. Republican politicians are like diapers – they should be changed often, and for the same reason.

Obamalism   July 17th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

Are you Obamatards denying what he's saying? He said we have succeeded and even a blind liberal zealot can see that. He didn't claim victory or say it's time to pack it up or even time to bring the war to a "close" as Obama would say.

His plan has worked where EVERYONE else said it was the wrong thing to do. I'm inclined to trust him rather than the 'community organizer' promising to pull out the entire time.

Heather in SoCal   July 17th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

This is coming from a man who didn't know that there is no longer a country named Czechoslovakia, and can't tell the difference between a Sunni and a Shia unless Joe Lieberman is whispering in his ear.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

ProudToBeDemocrat   July 17th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

Define success in regards to Iraq old man .

Darth Vadik, CA   July 17th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

Oh God here we go again

I guess 300,00-750,00 dead Iraqis, 4000+ dead Americans, 30,000+ wounded Americans,

the thing gained

$4.50 a gas

YES INSANE MAN WE HAVE SUCCEDED,

and if you think Iraq insurgency is over, you wait…

karen-phoenix   July 17th, 2008 5:11 pm ET

McCain does NOT know how to win a war in the year 2008!!! It's not the same as 1965!!! This "war" can not be "won" because its not a war. It is an occupation and we now have to get out because we don't have enough soldiers to do both Iraq and Afganistan. Can't stand McCain's thinking!!!! What is happening now is what Obama said 2 years ago!!! McCain is toooo old for 2008!!!!

Debbie   July 17th, 2008 5:11 pm ET

I guess that depends on what your definition of "success" is. Given the Bush Administration's prediliction to lower the bar in order to minimize their glaring incompetence, this stupid statement doesn't surprise me. It worked for George Bush – essentially the bar was so low if the man didn't pick his nose at ballgames (after 1999) or soil himself, he was considered electable.

I'd have expected better from McCain. I see all politicians as panderers, but there are degrees and THIS is "the big one".

DflateMacsStr8TalkXpress: Econ MIA, AWOL on facts, POW from reality   July 17th, 2008 5:11 pm ET

Sorry, Johnny-boy McLie, no matter how many times you repeat it, we are NOT going to believe it. Your VISION for the Middle East has been so misguided and NO, the surge did NOT accomplish its GOAL which was political resolution. Nice of you to coopt Mr. Obama's policies now that your cover has been blown and you were proven WRONG about diplomacy in IRAN, WRONG about Afghanistan, WRONG about China. McFish, McFlip, McFlop … a sham in foreign policy clothing.

Proud American   July 17th, 2008 5:10 pm ET

McCain is a Fool!!! What success? What planet are you on McCain… Bizzaro World?! America let us not allow the idiots that have been pulling the wool over our eyes (for the last 8 years) continue to do so..
McCain=Bush!!!

MikeH   July 17th, 2008 5:10 pm ET

Now we can leave and let the Iranians and Iraqis merge their nations into a Shia Oil monopoly, the natural outcome of Bush's disasterous invasion.

We invaded Iraq to get their oil, and all we did was hand it to Iran. Which, by the way is why Cheney is frothing at the mouth to attack Iran, to prevent such an oil monopoly, not because of Iran's nuclear program.

America is truly on a slide down into 3rd world quality of life.

Bulldog   July 17th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

First McCain said Obama was irresponsible for saying he would attack Al Queida in Pakistan if their was solid intelligence. Since calling Obama 'irresponsilbe' our miliarty has attacked Al Queida 4 times in Pakistan.

McCain calls Obama naive and reckless for wanting to set a timetable to get out of Iraq. Next thing you know the sovereign Iraq government demands we set a timetable.

McCain calls Obama reckless and an appeaser for saying he will sit down with leaders of countries unfriendly to the U.S. 3 months later the U.S. successfully appeases and negoitiates with N. Korea ('axis of evil') and they begin to dismantle their nuclear plants.

McCain and Bush call Obama an appeaser and irresponsible for saying he wants direct diplomacy with unfriendly countries rather than threats of war. Just yesterday the State Department announces they are sending a top level official to Iran to sit down and have direct talks.

Who has the judgement?

bob in L.A.   July 17th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

Yes we have. we have succeeded in killing 4400+ and wounding 100,000 +Americans. we have succeeded in killing 100,000 of Iraqis or helping to cause their death.
We have succeeded in having this war destroy our relationships around the world.
We have succeeded in putting our country in a state of financial ruin.
So many successes. Aren't we proud?

kim hussein taylor portland, oregon   July 17th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

how on earth can these ignorant, arrogant, whackjob neoCONs think that THEY can "fix" a country that doesnt want to be fixed, in a region of milleniums of violence. it is laughable that they think so highly of themselves.

actually, iraq HAS BEEN a success—-for bush, cheney, rummy, bremmer, wolfowitz, rice, blackwater, KBR, haliburton and all the other soul-less, unamerican neoCONs.

makes me wish i believed in heaven and he!!, just to be able to fantasize about the BLAZING HOT future of all of those unamerican losers!!!!

Julie   July 17th, 2008 5:08 pm ET

Good lord, McCain is eerilly similar to the brain-dead and delusional GW Bush.

Larry Daffern   July 17th, 2008 5:08 pm ET

Just another comparison to George W. Bush. They both have their own Alice in Wonderland definition of "success" in Iraq.

Val, Atlanta, Ga   July 17th, 2008 5:08 pm ET

one word to say "STUPID" we still have men dying there.

Ardnuas   July 17th, 2008 5:07 pm ET

McCain is just like Bush…… they BOTH see ONLY what they want to see…..God help us if this man is elected

William Courtland, Waterford, ON   July 17th, 2008 5:07 pm ET

If one had so much campaign cash? would starting a new industry or business with it not show better representation than a party?

Elly   July 17th, 2008 5:06 pm ET

Same old BS
too bad the american tax payers are paying the bribery money for all them NOT to kill each other
What a farce
Same as this new so called friendship with Iran
If you ask me knowing how deceitful this administration is its likely a big ploy so when they do invade Iran they can say *Well at least we tried diplomacy*
Sorry but I dont trust Bush Cheney or MCSame

Dennis Coles   July 17th, 2008 5:05 pm ET

Mission accomplished? Where have I heard that before?

Wisconsin   July 17th, 2008 5:05 pm ET

WOW all I did was go to the bathroom and all of the sudden we succeeded in Iraq!

So all we needed was for McWar to randomly decided that we succeeded? He could of done that years ago! Bush did!

LOL what a hack

MMN-Milwaukee WI   July 17th, 2008 5:05 pm ET

Three words: McCain voodoo economics

USAF Staff Sergeant   July 17th, 2008 5:05 pm ET

Success? Not what I've heard from my pals who are still stationed in Iraq.

Montana is Obama Country   July 17th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

Guess McWeekender is trying his darndest to get IN FRONT of the Bus before he finds out the Bush Administration does another about face turn on him.. and he is left in the dust..!!

Nice Try Blinky……my friends..think the real war has been Afghanistan..

Lets get as many troops home as possible…

Doris,Memphis,TN   July 17th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

Really.
And now we are getting ready to start talks with Iran.
Something Barack suggested long, long, long ago.

Travis (in the real world   July 17th, 2008 5:03 pm ET

I think King George said the same thing "Mission Accomplished"

Now tomorrow McWar will forget he said "We have succeeded"…

I see a flip flop,senior moment, misspoken statement coming.

Livonia, MI   July 17th, 2008 5:03 pm ET

Great, what did we win? Where's the cash prize or the trophy? Will there at least be a victory party and barbeque at the Crawford Ranch?

Chuck   July 17th, 2008 5:03 pm ET

Yes we did succeed in Iraq, or shall I say it appears we did. However, McCain can not take credit for the surge as it was not his idea. The surge was requested by the generals on the ground and the forces commander in the area. Yes McCain voted for the surge, however, it is not his credit to take.
However, if we have succeeded, then why does McCain want to stay there. In my humble opinion, this was only and always about oil and placing our forces in the region to protect the supply of oil.

Xavier, Saint Louis, MO   July 17th, 2008 5:03 pm ET

We have succeeded what? What are we even there for? To free the Iraqis? Please, that's the lie the Bush administration has told. If the US was so concerned about freeing people, then why don't we free the people in North Korea, China or Cuba?

And if we "succeeded", then why are we still there?

Mary   July 17th, 2008 5:03 pm ET

REMEMBER: when McCain said “this war is going to be easy”? Then when he realized it wasn’t he said “those who thought it would be a walk in the park were wrong”

REMEMBER: Year 2003 : Mission Accomplished!!!

Oooops: We need more troops!!!

REMEMBER: Year 2008: We have succeeded in Iraq!!!

Oooops: We can’t leave Iraq since I forgot to mention that the reason its calm is because we are paying these people to not fight!!!

Oooops: Politically Iraq is still a mess!!!

srw   July 17th, 2008 5:02 pm ET

What a dummy. He's outlining the perfect argument for bringing our troops home. If we have succeeded, the Iraqi government wants us out, and even the Pentagon is suggesting that we withdraw troops at a pace faster than even Obama has called for, why, McCain, why must we continue to maintain such high troop levels?

Obama gets beat up for saying he may refine the pace of withdrawal, but at least you know where he stands on Iraq. We're going to get out. McCain's position is so jumbled that no one knows what to make of it.

SOUTHERN HOTTIE FOR OBAMA   July 17th, 2008 5:02 pm ET

RIGHT. . . .

SO WHY ARE WE STILL IN IRAQ AGAIN?

SILLY REPUBLICANS.
TRICKS ARE FOR KIDS, DON'T YOU KNOW?

OBAMA 2008/2012
YES WE CAN!!!!!!!!!!

Texas   July 17th, 2008 5:02 pm ET

Obama wanted to walk out of Iraq during the so called "Civil War"

Gas would be $10 a gallon and the Mideast would be in complete chaos if we would have listened to Obama.

We are succeeding and we will succeed.

Chuck   July 17th, 2008 5:01 pm ET

Yes we did succeed in Iraq, or shall I say it appears we did. However, McCain can not take credit for the surge as it was not his idea. The surge was requested by the generals on the ground and the forces commander in the area. Yes McCain voted for the surge, however, it is not his credit to take.

Wisconsin   July 17th, 2008 5:01 pm ET

So MCSame agrees with Obama that we can get out now? Has it been 100 years already?

Oh I found the small print, "the success we have achieved is fragile and could be reversed".

So when CAN WE get out?

When we elect Obama President!

W.   July 17th, 2008 5:00 pm ET

Mission Accomplished!

I guess the 150,000+ troops currently in Iraq are just getting suntans. Did he make this statement while wearing a flight suit or standing on the deck of an aircraft carrier? Oh, by jingo!

kim hussein taylor portland, oregon   July 17th, 2008 5:00 pm ET

apparently mccain was one of the clueless 13% on CNN's poll that actually believes that iraq is the frontline for terrorists, as opposed to afghanistan.

i dont think mccain's crack campaign team has told him that those white house talking points arent really TRUE, it's just what they send out to the righties like beck and oreilly to keep the haters hating!!!

Ex-Republican for Obama   July 17th, 2008 4:59 pm ET

DPerry, I am an Obama supporter, but I hate to break it to you:

While we can say that the day it occured GWB was in the white house, what we must remember is that during the EIGHT years it took to plan out, Clinton was in office.

Clinton failed us, and Bush had to deal with it (and Bush has done a horrid job of dealing with it, but be fair and place blame where blame is due).

what?   July 17th, 2008 4:59 pm ET

hmmmmm….the parents, wives and husbands can thank McCain while they take flowers to the graves of the 4000 soldiers who died in that ILLEGAL WAR. HELLO…WE SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAVE BEEN THERE…those who attacked us on 911 were in Afghan. you know the place John was saying was just fine..
if as McCain says " failure breeds failure" then there is NO winning in Iraq.
lets get the bad guys (i am talking about Bin Laden, Bush is another story) and bring our kids home, invest the money we save in the economy then pay back all the money we owe China….
does any one know what happened to the 2 trill they "lost"?

Shawna   July 17th, 2008 4:59 pm ET

If this is what the President considers success, then I'd hate to see the outcomes of his future plans for the economy.

Ken   July 17th, 2008 4:58 pm ET

Another "Mission Accomplished" by another Disaster-in-Charge wann-be. If we've done so good, then get them out of that civil war…and let's start fighting the war on terror…..yeh, you remember, that war the right-wing knows how to flap-at-the-yap about, but has had no stomach to fight.

Kiah   July 17th, 2008 4:58 pm ET

JP…um 9/11/01 was under BUSH! Just in case you forgot.

DJ, LA, CA   July 17th, 2008 4:58 pm ET

So John are you going to have another celebration party on the aircraft carrier, do some fist bumps, put a flight suit on again like GW did?

Mission Accomplished I thought was already declared?

charles   July 17th, 2008 4:58 pm ET

first you say we have succeeded then down the line you finish by saying you have no doubt we will win. too much war in yr head.

NY   July 17th, 2008 4:57 pm ET

I'm sorry Mr. McCain, but what "war" exactly are we going to win in Iraq, of all places?

Don't quit   July 17th, 2008 4:57 pm ET

You people are so stupid. Obama and the Dems wanted to walk out during the so called, "Civil War" The Dems have been declaring defeat for the past 2-3 years. If we would have walked out during the Civil War, the region would be in chaos and gas would be $10 a gallon.

The surge is working and will work. Within 2 years, we'll have 70% of our troops out of Iraq, UNDER MCCAIN.

Let our troops win.

CNN, if you have any integrity, you'll post this.

Michelle, PA   July 17th, 2008 4:57 pm ET

Not another Mission Accomplished?!?

NotFallingInLine.org   July 17th, 2008 4:56 pm ET

Senator McCain opposed Rummy and the Bushies back when that was not at all popular among Republicans.

AND IT TURNED OUT THAT HE WAS RIGHT!

What has Obama done again? Given a pretty speech?

Our party's leaders have completely failed us.

NFIL
NOT FALLING IN LINE behind failed leaders and their selectee.

Capt. Jack   July 17th, 2008 4:56 pm ET

If national security is important to you then you better vote McCain. Obama will not keep us safe and YOU know that. Obama is a friend of the terrorists. That's why they have all endorsed him.

Nom Deplume   July 17th, 2008 4:56 pm ET

I love the derision of success from those who know nothing of success or what it takes to achieve it.

Democrats, by and large, are not successful people. Those that are typically work in academia or government, where the threshold for "success" is much, much lower. Some are smart, but have no ambition, meaning that they have succeeded by holding positions requiring intelligence but little else.

Further, having degrees does not make you successful, especially if they were practically handed to you simply for regurgitating the right lines. I know Harvard Law grads that can't hold a candle to attorneys from "lesser" schools, and Harvard Univ. students that can't complete a thought. Scary.

When it comes to things in life that require hard work and dedication, those that succeed don't stay democrats for long. I guess that is why the central tenet in the Dem party is to punish the successful.

A Former Democrat

km   July 17th, 2008 4:55 pm ET

We already succeeded? I thought there would be more of a party.

Texas Trail Dog   July 17th, 2008 4:55 pm ET

PEOPLE PLEASE DON'T VOTE OBAMA INTO OFFICE AND LET HIM DESTROY WHAT OUR TROOPS SO BRAVELY HAVE ACCOMPLISHED. WE NEED BASES IN iRAQ AND WE NEED TO KEEP THEM THERE. No withdrawing of troops. Withdrawing is only for cowards and people like OBAMA's supporters who are only efficients in a mob.

Shasta   July 17th, 2008 4:54 pm ET

Where did this come from?

Wisconsin   July 17th, 2008 4:54 pm ET

LOL just the other day we NEEDED to stay in Iraq!

are you kidding me! This is quaint, isn't it.

DPerry   July 17th, 2008 4:54 pm ET

Wow I would hate to see what had happened had we failed.

……and J.P. feel free to correct me if im wrong, but wasn't 9/11 during Bush's presidency??

Larry   July 17th, 2008 4:54 pm ET

The only thing that I can see, that we have succeeded in doing in Iraq

Is killing a lot of people

Where's the Mission Accomplished banner, John ???

More like George every day

James in Oregon   July 17th, 2008 4:54 pm ET

McCain is so out of touch he lives on another planet. I have no idea how anyone could or would vote for this guy. The good news is , Obama is leading McCain in his home State……..LOL.

charles   July 17th, 2008 4:53 pm ET

Yes you have succeeded bribing them with money. You just said no timetable for withdrawal. lf you have succeded the reason you are still there is becoz as you always say 100 years. oldman you are getting worse everyday.

Capt. Smash, Salt Lake City, Utah   July 17th, 2008 4:53 pm ET

So now we can cut off funding.

Ex-Republican for Obama   July 17th, 2008 4:53 pm ET

ahh…so we succeeded!! Yay, where's the newspaper headline "Victory in Iraq"? Are we going to see all those troops arriving home on ships and planes?

Let's forget that it's an illegal war that we have won, let's just be looking for the butt load of military men and women to start pouring in back home. What do you say McCain, we won, where are they? Or do you have some form of BS reason why they aren't back here yet? Put up or STFU!

Start with the straight talk you fool, start with showing us our men and women and not rhetorically claiming victory in a presidential election year. You are a flipping fake!

Obama '08

john   July 17th, 2008 4:53 pm ET

Great we have won in Iraq!!! Great news but why the heck were 4 soldiers killed today???????????????

P P Hernandez, Sunset, Republic of Louisiana   July 17th, 2008 4:53 pm ET

Per Ok's comment, we succeeded against Germany and Japan and are still there. We lost Viet Nam and are not there. Are you suggesting we loose so we can leave?

Amen!   July 17th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

Ok,

You beat me to the punch in making that response. Since "we have succeeded in Iraq", let us not wear out our welcome there. Let us pack our military bags and head to Afghanistain. McDrain has put his foot in his mouth again.

Capt. Smash, Salt Lake City, Utah   July 17th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

Then lets bring all the troops home today.

Don't quit   July 17th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

We are succeeding and we will succeed, thanks to the surge.

Obama and most Democrats declared defeat a year ago. They vehemently opposed the surge. Remember folks, remember how the Democrats said Iraq was a "Civil War" that could not be won.

THINK, what our situation would be if we walked out in the middle of the "Civil War", like Obama wanted to do. Iraq would have decended into chaos, gas would be $10 a gallon.

We will leave upon success, like McCain has always said. Mark my words, within 2 years, we'll have 60-70% of our troops out of Iraq, under McCain! The Iraqi Military is taking over more and more responsibility. THAT NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED UNDER OBAMA. Obama would have sold out the Iraqi people and left them in a deadly bind.

G   July 17th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

umm how? Well if that's the case than I guess troops can come home now right? Wasn't that the point that success in Iraq allows for troops to come home? One point for Obama Zero for Mccain.

Parksy   July 17th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

where's the banner ???

the only thing that has succeeded in theneedless killing of 4,000+ of out troops.

Cracka lova   July 17th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

thats like saying"hey honey I am finished with everything but I gotta stay here"……well if you are finished why do you have to stay ……well I guess I am not really finished………Mc Cain 08…..for fools

Canadian for OBAMA   July 17th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

J.P.

The fact that you have had no attack on US soil since 9/11 has nothing to do with the Irak war. Irak was never involved to begin with (your president had a personal vendetta against Hussein because he tried to kill his dad Bush Sr., it's the first thing he focused on when he got into office)

If you guys don't put your focus on Afghanistan, you can bet your bottom dollar that you might see another attack sooner than you think, Canada included.

Venus   July 17th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

He doesnt know how to win a war! He was a POW for 5-years!

We need to get out of Iraq —- Bush lied to get us in the war—-

Go Bam!

adam   July 17th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

"We have succeeded in Iraq." and that's why we have to stay indefinatly.

Terry   July 17th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

How many lives did we lose? How many soldiers have been injured? How much have we spent on the war that could have been used to revive our economy? Didn't Pres. Bush claim that the war was over a couple of years ago?

Devon Spencer   July 17th, 2008 4:50 pm ET

There is no way to succeed in Iraq other than leaving.

CLINTON 08 VP   July 17th, 2008 4:50 pm ET

McGRAMPS I TOLD YOU TO GO HOME AND TAKE A NAP, GO WATCH THE HISTORY CHANNEL

UNITED WE'RE STRONGER

OBAMA (P) & CLINTON (VP) 2008-2014

NO TO "BUSH II" (MCCAIN), McWAR, "BUSH'S-INTENT-FOR-2ND-PARADE-IN-IRAQ"

Baron   July 17th, 2008 4:50 pm ET

Well hell, John—why aren't the boys home? Sounds like someone will say anything to get elected.

I personally don't want a president who gets angry when someone ask him a question.

Obama 08

wycliffe, NJ   July 17th, 2008 4:50 pm ET

Fine. Lets go home now

?????   July 17th, 2008 4:50 pm ET

Okay, then why do you want to stay there???

Linda. Boston, MA   July 17th, 2008 4:49 pm ET

So… uh, I guess we can LEAVE then, right?

John in Columbus Ohio   July 17th, 2008 4:49 pm ET

The only reason Iraq is quiet is because, with nothing holding them down and with Afghanistan wide open, the terrorists have just gone to Afghanistan. We will never "win" unless we remove the underlying causes behind terrorism.

Texans for Obama   July 17th, 2008 4:49 pm ET

Well, I don't understand. If we are suceeing in Iraq. Why is it going to take 100 more yrs to complete the mission there? McCain, please, do you mean the surge is working? What was our exact mission in Iraq? We were looking for WMD's and Al Queda. We tore the country down then we have to rebuild it, and killed many innocent people and young soldier's. This was for Oil. Alan Greenspan said that in his book.

McCain, give it up please! Obama for President!

lady in michigan   July 17th, 2008 4:49 pm ET

success…. hundreds of thousands dead, millions displaced, ancient treasures destroyed, corruption running rampant, sectarian killings down only because ethnic cleansing has finished in most neighborhoods. Success…. a country in ruins, the US hated around the world, Iran on the rise, the Taliban resurgent…. success….

As the Germans say, you can't eat as much as you need to puke

rice, bryan   July 17th, 2008 4:49 pm ET

mcbush can't be mcfreakin mcserious can he?

PG   July 17th, 2008 4:49 pm ET

Really? By the look of things you are wrong McSame. Because American is still there.

Bushed   July 17th, 2008 4:48 pm ET

Dear JP,

You can not prove a negative. So I'm not giving any credit to Bush, especially when he broke every Constitutional law on the book. We've pretty much had a dictatorship for 7 years. He succeeded in nothing, but a failed presidency.

Peter   July 17th, 2008 4:48 pm ET

If by succeeded you mean "Killed hundreds of innocent people and wasted Billions of dollars for nothing" than your right

Obama/Biden, Obama/Bayh, Obama/Nunn, or Obama/Richardson '08 and '12!!!

whiner   July 17th, 2008 4:48 pm ET

if we have succeeded ,why cant our troops come home?we havent succeeded if iraq will fall into chaos the second we leave.that only means the factions are waiting for us to leave so they can resume their civil war and secular bickering.we won this war months after we invaded,but,insisted on occupying them until any withdraw appears to be surrender and loss.obama will declare victory ,for our troops and begin a steady withdrawal,to leave the iraqi's to make their own decisions ,and shift our focus to your "forgotten" war in afghanistan.only now are you showing any interest in that country where we should have been focused all along.stop taking credit for obamas foresight and vision and judgement.you only want to remain there to protect bush/cheney oil fields.

Rose   July 17th, 2008 4:48 pm ET

I guess putting 100,000 Iraqis on the US payroll to keep down sectarian fighting is winning? How about over 4000 military deaths and Lord knows how many Iraqis. This is winning?

I just can't believe that Americans could actually vote for this war-mongering fool.

Tired of W, OH   July 17th, 2008 4:48 pm ET

Can we get a picture of John W. McBush in a flight suit with a "Mission Accomplished" banner in the background? I'd love to see that.

Like others have pointed out, if we've succeeded, why can't we get out now? If pulling the troops out within 16 months would indeed plunge Iraq back into chaos, as McBush would have us believe, how can he say we've succeeded. Maybe he should have said "We've succeeded as long as we never leave."

I say bring our troops home. If Iraq fails after that, it's on their heads, not ours.

JIM...TX   July 17th, 2008 4:48 pm ET

Wonder if he'll fly his own plane on to the aircraft carrier…?…this comes after how many years and young american deaths that Bush uttered those words???

fella from Chicago   July 17th, 2008 4:48 pm ET

John I'm voting for you in November, but we haven't succeeded in iraq until our troops are out and a Democratic government is up and running and their military and police can enforce the laws of their land. Don't pull a George W. on me and do a premature declaration of victory. We'll obtain all of the goals set forth at the beginning of the war, but not yet. Be patient, John.

Amy   July 17th, 2008 4:48 pm ET

Succeeded in helping the Saudis, Bush and others get richer.

Democrats Unify & Vote Big   July 17th, 2008 4:47 pm ET

Is McCain running against himself? Every day he says something crazy – Makes you really wonder about his mental state.

Lee-- Dallas, TX   July 17th, 2008 4:47 pm ET

Now can we leave and turn our attention to where it should have been in the beginning. Afghanistan/Pakistan hold those awful people that attacked us those not too distant years ago. Too bad we didn't stick around there when this awful mess was started.

I'd really like to hear how the definition of success has 'evolved'.

Tom - Cary, NC   July 17th, 2008 4:47 pm ET

Go McCain! Won't this truth be hard for the whining Democrats to accept!

Not Buying It   July 17th, 2008 4:46 pm ET

Of course he has to say this because Barack just stole his thunder. Barack told the American people that the problem has never been Iraq. So today McCain rushes out and says we've "succeeded in Iraq", so he can now focus on Afghanistan, which Barack has been doing.

If we have succeeded in Iraq, then why are you talking about staying there for 100 years? He's slick and I'm not buying it.

McCain is so transparent and I think the American people will decide that he does not have the right temperament to be president.

Saad from NJ   July 17th, 2008 4:46 pm ET

That's what you said aboard a ship 5 years ago President Bush… Oops I am sorry, you are Senator McCain…..

dAVE   July 17th, 2008 4:45 pm ET

SUPER!

So we can leave and stop sending hundreds of billions of dollars that we don't have to be blown up for Bush's lies and failures, right?

White Independant   July 17th, 2008 4:44 pm ET

Mission Accomplished!!! Thank God now we can all go home….right?

J.P.   July 17th, 2008 4:43 pm ET

We are going to be in serious "national security" trouble if Obama gets elected. Say what you want about Bush's handling of the war. What I do know with 100% certainty is that we have had no terrorist attacks on US soil since 9-11, and that is a very good thing.

JT Johnson   July 17th, 2008 4:43 pm ET

We did great in Iraq. We can leave as soon as the Iraqis are well enough trained to take care of themselves when the al queda's rush back into the vacuum of our leaving.

Rob   July 17th, 2008 4:43 pm ET

This sounds familiar…

jeremy   July 17th, 2008 4:42 pm ET

If we have succeeded, why are we still there? How many "mission accomplished" speeches do they plan to give before action is finally taken?

not important   July 17th, 2008 4:42 pm ET

What? How? The only good thing is that Saddam Hussein is no longer in power. What is McCains definition of success?

Ok   July 17th, 2008 4:40 pm ET

if we have succeeded in Iraq why can't we get out

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