This guy is crazy and dead wrong on just about everything!

Let's go to Afghanistan and finish off the Taliban and Al-Qaeda where it hurts!

News Flash, McCain. I'm going to be 18 in August, I'm not going to IRAQ OR IRAN for your pathetic and senseless wars. And if I'm alive by then, you sure as hell can't have my children.

Obama '08

Susie: If you don't have nothing to say, please be quite. Don't let people judge you by your intelligence, you sounded so ignorant by your statement. Be educated next time Susie!

Obama is so arrogant that he can’t even admit when he is wrong.
What a stubborn one sided man he is.
If he can’t even admit that the surge worked and accept the positives it brought how is he going to bring both sides together?

Obama bragged about judgment, with his pastor he showed us he has none.

Obama bragged about unity, with his refusal to acknowledge the effectiveness of the surge he showed us how one sided is.

Obama’s inexperience was again highlighted when he repeated his private talks with Iraqi’s PM.

Obama is dangerous for our natio.
Whey did Obama choose to fly with no US Flag on his plane?

McCain's entire emphasis is on "winning". How does one define winning when you are the aggressor and you instigate an illegal, immoral war which has done absolutely nothing to help ensure the security of America. This war has spurred more revulsion of Americans and american policy worldwide than anything in history and as history has taught us, hatred spawns terrorism.

How on earth does one "win"?

When is McCain going to define "victory"? If the definition applies to Iraq, would McCain invade other countries to ensure the same "victory"?

If McCain is so worried about American security why isn't he proposing a plan for Afghanistan and why hasn't he visited there to see the facts and conditions on the ground. It has been over two years and circumstances have changed drastically.

Maybe the Obama campaign should start a count of how many days since he has been there!!

Maybe we should be Democratic and have Americans and Iraqi's vote if the U.S. Army should withdrawal?

Would the Republicans listen to a Democracy?

Susie you have no proof, just wishful thinking. 70% of America wants troops out of Iraq. If its a town hall meeting, odds are that 7 in 10 dont agree with McCAin and that at least 1 will have the guts to ask it.

Math and probability, remember?

Mike from Syracuse - debates have already been set. Obama is going to mop the floor with him - I'm kind of dreading them. Listening to McCain babble about we can't leave Iraq 'cause we are losing and we can't leave Iraq 'cause we are winning and therefore we can't leave Iraq period. Heck - who knew that the 100 year comment was the only truth the "straight talk express" was going to tell on this issue? President Obama - I'm working for a 50 state win - mandate with a capital "M", a majority in both houses and a chance to heal America - 'tis going to be a very good November and an even better January!

As a Navy Vet, I have to admit John McCain is an ok guy. That man has been through the ringer, over the river, and through a beat down, and he's still kicking.

But, he's also gone loco! We Want Our Troops Home, plain and simple!

Our troops have done their jobs for our country, and now it's time for us to do our jobs, and bring them home!! If Haliburton and Blackwater want it so bad, then leave then there to be police, but bring our troops home!

James, you are a fool…It was Obama who first suggest to withdraw depending on ground conditions and now Bush following suit.

How dare this lady ask questions that weren't a part of Senator McCain's talking points! How dare she have the nerve to expect a real answer instead of the Senator's canned spiel!

However, you have it to give to Senator McCain. He at least let the woman have her say even though he didn't give her any real answers. But you can bet money his staff will make sure that this doesn't happen again.

lol. this is funny. i wish i was at the town hall meeting to see his very reaction to the woman questions. he is just being reminded that the majority of americans want to withdraw troops asap. and obama is going to do that. so it sucks for McCain come November.

At least he was willing to listen to contrasting views. Unlike Bush who has anyone who disagrees with him removed from the forum.

So, now Senator, please tell us what you mean by "victory" and "honor"? Who will have to die to achieve that? And if you select Romney as your running mate, will he send his kids?

From Susie…

It's a shame Obama sends people to McCain's events to disrespect him. McCain never does that to Obama.
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What is wrong with some of you people? This is what scares me about this election. Talk about low tier voters! Okay, let's entertain this for a minute…

For Obama to pull this off:

He would have to select people to go.

They would have to be given admission (remember what happened to the librarian)

McCain would have to be lucky enough to call on them.

Translation: Either McCain cannot find enough of his own supporters to go to his townhall and this makes room for Obama people, or

People have wised up to his sorry act and now are calling him on it. Either way, he is screwed. Susie, in the future please make a lucid statement.

Heather Wilson's comments are only to cast doubt, and of course, the normal republican fear machine. "He is not sophisticated enough, i don't think?" Why? He's way more sophisticated than this rich kid and his rich family could be in his 100yr old life. "frighteningly inexperience?" way to go with the fear tactics, is "frighteningly" even a real word? Its hilarious how they have to use subliminal words to induce fear into WE the people's minds. Keep it up, no one's voting for you come your re-election bid. All these people are so scared out of their minds now, that they have to show their true colors, but to do it so blatantly is so amazing! CNN isn't covering this enough, nor are they covering the fact that the "SURGE" is working because Muqtada Al Sadr called a cease fire, that we the american people paid for. And are out paying terrorists not to shoot us! Its all propaganda, and I'm glad that Obama is not using our troops and loved ones as a prop tool for his photo ops. How come no one cheers to see Bush, or Mccain? Because these soldiers know that B.O. is the only one that will let them see their families again, and hopefully make it home alive, and be provided psychotherapy for all the PTSD that they'll have. How come CNN doesn't talk about the over 25,000 vets of this war have committed suicide? Or murder after returning home? Step it up CNN.

I was at the town hall meeting and the media is so twisted. There was one woman who patted herself on the back and made a comment about his staff and one woman who said something negative about McCain's stance on Iraq. The other 99.9% people were very supportive and complimentary on his stance with Iraq and other issues. I am upset with the media coverage with McCain. There was a 3 minute stint about Obama and his "trip" and a 30 second snippet of McCain's town hall meeting and they showed the woman who had the "negative" comments. SHAME ON YOU !!!!!

McCain does not understand a basic fact…you can't "win" an occupation following an unwarranted attack against a people. If China attacked the US to control OUR resources and install 58 permanent bases, killed millions of us and our loved ones, made millions more of us refugees within the US plus Canada and Mexico, destroyed our infrastructure then imposed a puppet government based on THEIR way of governing, would WE greet them with flowers and candy? Hell no! I bet nearly every one of us would become an "insurgent" determined to get America back. This happened to France and America in Vietnam, and, since Bush and Cheney avoided serving honorably there, they never learned that lesson. And McCain, IF he ever understood that, has clearly forgotten it. Shame on all three of them.

I am neither for McCain or the Iraq war. What I will say though is that at least McCain faces the voters unlike Obacktrack who would rather read a teleprompter than get face-to-face with voters.

Do any of you have jobs?

Don't forget there were plenty of Democrats and Republicans who said "Mission Accomplished". So give me a break when you call Senator McCain - McSame.

Senator McCain is right, if we were to leave to early from Iraq, the radicals would declare it a victory. Don't believe me, read "The Cell" by John Miller. See what the book has to say. We have been at war since the late 80s. We never knew it.

Kudos to McCain for telling the idiots in the crowd to shut up their disruptive shouts.

The real question isn't whether we withdraw in victory or in defeate - it's how we will claim to be withdrawing in victory despite withdrawing in defeat. The real defeat is completely separate from whether the military achieves a military victory or not - it is political. There is nothing we can do at this point to counterbalance all the damage this war has done to our reputation and standing throughout the world.

We all should know by now that the invasion of Iraq was for the control of that country's oil supply to enrich the oil companies of
THIS country. No sacrifice by the military would be too great for them.

Give me back my son!!! No 100 years in Iraq.

"Ransom"

This guy is surrounded by so many "yes" town halls that McCain RARELY gets to hear what the majority of people think about the IRAQ war. He can say "victory" all he wants, but its a sham. It was a blunder from the beginning. The country is in tatters. Its going to take 100 or more years of IRAQIS cleaning up the mess we left behind.

Has anyone besides myself noticed how often words, thoughts,etc. seem to slip Senator McCain's memory? I really believe that he has a real memory health problem and it is only going to get worse as the days and weeks go by. I am an Obama supporter but I have a lot of respect for Senator McCain and sometimes I feel like even the Republicans are not properly supporting him but just using him!

You can not win a war that is fought based on lies and deceptions. When my country was bombed, with out valid cause I saw two of my most prized buildings and 3000 citizens murdered. We called the people who did it, terrorists.

America is bombing Iraq, originally started because we were told they had WMD's. After close to 7 years of fighting no WMD's have been found, yet we are still there. We are there with out just cause, we are our own worst enemy, we are the terrorists now.

Let's stop our own republican/guirilla backed brand of terrorism: Let us not elect a president who wishes to continue illegal wars.

Vote Obama '08

Once again McBush tells bald faced lies to pander to the voters. He told the lady who opposed occupation of Iraq that' we will withdraw'. McBush has repeatedly stated that we will remain in Iraq indefinitly and compares Iraq to Germany and Korea where we keep a permanant (and expensive) military presence. McBush has no plan to ever leave Iraq. In his sick mind, we took it and it is ours. Never mind that Iraqi's will never ever accept our occupation and will engage us in a never ending war. Not because they are terrorists but because 'we are there'!

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WITHDRAW?

I THOUGHT WERE GOING TO STAY THERE FOR 100 YEARS OR FOREVER, PUT UP A BASE LIKE IN KOREA, GERMANY.

FLIP-FLOP AND MERELY LISTENING TO BARAK.

YOUR TOWNHALL IDEA IS GREAT. YOU COULD HEAR ALL THE SCREW-UPS YOUR PARTY HAVE DONE.

STOP THE MADNESS. VOTE OBAMA.

For that, he is MY PRESIDENT!

Again please define what you mean by victory vs defeat and be specific. Talking about Obama's plan for with drawal is not specific because you keep getting his plan wrong in a very distorted way. So be specific as to your personal definition of victory vs defeat. Again YOUR opinion and please be direct and to the point answering only the question with out any caviots and add ons about Obama. Distinguish your self man, Distinguish your self.

Yesterday McCain said that we had succeeded in Iraq, that we had won.
Today he is suggesting that we not withdraw until we achieve victory. How many victories must we achieve before we can leave Iraq and what is the definition of victory in Iraq?

Cnn One again with all my gratitude thank you to never put my comment.

May be this one will go through, who knows?

I love Jack Carffety.He is what i call a straight talker not what John McCain keeps blabbing about.

Troops are dying everyday,the economy is in the gutter,Gas prices are at an all time high and all Gloria Boger,McCain and the conservative block are talking about is for Obama to say he was wrong about the surge.

Who cares about the surge.The Iraqi's want the troops out and that is what matters .'

If the surge is so successful then bring the troops home.

US presence in the entire region is what hurts us…going way back to us being in Afghanistan in the 80s and so stubbornly supporting Israel. Doesn't anyone get this concept of "blowback"??? Only Ron Paul mentioned it.

Sounds like the straight talk express hit a tree!!!!

The problem with "victory" is at what cost and to what end? There will be no victory in Iraq as long as we stay there. 40 years from now if we are still there this war will rage on. In the history of the Middle East when have these people ever said… "ok fine… we give up". The crusades lasted hundreds of years… here we are again… taking a war to a people that will NOT stop fighting.

We lost this war the second we invaded with provocation.

Unfortunately, McBush see no problem with "winning" for the next 100 years with no concern as to how many will die, be maimed or how we are going to pay for it. Every dollar being spent on the Iraq war is borrowed with a large portion from the Saudis and China.
The U.S. is piling up billions in debt every month and it appears that our Representatives in Washington don't have a clue when or how it will ever be paid… Just keep paying the interest and maybe they will forget the principal.

Iraq should be paying us in oil for protection provided by our troops. It's time for the US to stop footing the bill.

a.) 4200 Dead Americans

b.) $1 Trillion Spent

c.) 20,0000 American Soldiers maimed by roadside / other bombs

d.) No WMDs

e.) civil unrest introduced to Iraq …. "hundreds-of-thousands" dead

f.) No connection to the 9-11 attacks

g.) Gasoline up almost 100% since the war began to $5 per gallon

Tell me John, Why did we do this again?

The whole misplanned and mis-executed episode fails the Cost-Benefit analysis I do with my tax dollars …

so much for mcsame being in his confront zone while he speaks at Town Hall meetings…..

Obama 08

The US has ALREADY achieved victory. It's done. Kaput. Lets start scaling down our troop commitment now.

I like the question so many others want to know, what constitute victory? Many lifes were lost. How many more will be enough to say we have "victory"…

While selecting stories that make McCain look bad, you guys are missing the fun experience of watching Obama morph first into Hillary Clinton, then to her right (see the FISA vote) and on to look as much as possible as the guy you love to hate: McCain!!

Pretty hard to tell the difference between Obama and McCain on the war business - I expect by the end of the week it will be totally impossible.

(giggling while I write this….)

There you go Senator!! Doesn't it feel good to have this country by yourself??? You really learn a lot…LOL!!

we went to iraq on lies that the bush administration wanted us to believe and now they want us to stay because someone has to keep an eye on the oil leases.

Kim Dallas,,, From a fellow Texan….Because We do not want any foreign Government to control the United States of America… We are not Europeans or Asians We are Amerians. that Fled those continents to seek a better life for our Children and Grandchildren.
Americans are not stupid, they will elect a leader that is 100% of the United States and loved this country from Day One., One who is and was willing to Die for his beliefs and not the one that stayed home and
prepared to be President., but launched his campaign before he was prepared. That is why Foreignors want Obama, we in the United States will reject him and his followers.

Senator McCain "…oil…not what Americans are fighting for."

I absolutely remember him saying sometime this past Spring saying "We will not ever have to fight for oil again." McCain actually said that, are something REALLY close to that.

And as far as withdraw, it was McCain on the NBC TodayShow with Matt Lauer when McCain said "…it's not too important" as it relates to when the troops would come home.

Which ties in to victory. OR what the definition is.
We don't know YET, what McCain's definition is.
So, I'm apt to believe that McCain is still playing games in his own head with respect to Iraq.
By the eway, has anyone on his campaign yet told him that Czechoslavakia is no longer a country? Geesh, talking about foreighn policy INexperience.

Mc cain you cant win in Iraq, if you want to win over there on your own a lot of your soldiers will continue to be killed, also you will need the help of your allies and even so.

Ok you can secure a zone but the war that the US are facing is a difficult war to win. the reason is that the terrorist will fight mainly against you like they do against Israel. By using attentats against the civil and the soldiers.
A undred years won't change anything, look israel since hom many years are they trying to solve their problems with the Palestinians… until when One day BOOM an other attentat in Jerusalem.

Check on wikipedia and you will see how many civil have been killed in Iraq by attentats since the beginning of this ridiculous war . It's true that Saddam was a dictator but now day by day people are living within insecurity and fear.
Let say that before the war everything was fine. (if not)
Also when the US army will leave Iraq may be things will become difficult in Iraq like now in Afghanistan. So now how is going to look after the Iraqis people?
Talking with your enemies is always better than : Yeah we have to destroyed Iran because they don't listen to us. joker.

Did you forget all the muslim countries in the world?
You can't just come and say ok let's have a war because it could happen that a stupid war be a the third world war.

Iran is not Iraq, Saddam was not seen as a good man in his own nation but the president of Iran is seen differently in is community.

Encore merci (Once again merci)

Julien

With all the Obama hype and popularity getting under McCain's skin and Obama refusing to embrace McCain's views, I believe that McCain will lose it in public debates with Obama. He almost did at the Reagan Library debating his fellow nominees during the primaries. He was asked about his ability to lead on the economy and he gave an answer tying it to his war experience. It was bizarre and totally unrelated to the question. Romney, ever the gentleman, just smiled and didn't reply.

Thank you soon to be President John McCain. Remind these protestors and in my opinion traitors to our country that they have freedom only because of people like you and me that are willing to die for the ideals we hold dear… Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. As Nathan Hale said. "Give me Liberty or give me Death"
Also the great Mexican General, Emiliano Zapata…"It is better to die on
one's feet than to go through life on one's knees."

My Country (USA) will not surrender to the Islamic Jihadists.

McCain 08,,, Obama never.

Good to see that a concerned citizen has the cojones to ask the tough questions.

"if we had been defeated in Iraq, the radical elements in the Muslim world would have been dramatically encouraged."

"If we had been defeated," he says. Doesn't that statement right there mean that we were victorious? Well then, according to McCain's own words, its time to get our boys & girls out of there, hypocrite.

To Susie what world do you live in?

These are real people and they are not sent by anybody especially Obama.

Take your head out of the GOP sandbox and wake up lady.

Find something better to do with your time besides spreading lies and hate.

Face reality. The republicans time is up. You can go to the back of the line or else get in line and walk side by side with the winners.

Following the McCain headlines online over these past few days, I've not only lost what little respect I had for John McCain, but am also confident that he is slowly digging himself into an ever larger hole.

This is a good thing in my book, because the last thing the world needs in another glib and war-obsessed joker occupying the White House.

I trust that Americans are ready for change and are able to see McCain for what he is.

Now, if someone could just keep Bush from causing more chaos before leaving office…

Pathetic….McBush just doesn't get it.

The American people want out of this false war and fight the real war on terror in Afghanistan…What an idiot.

McPain needs a dose of shock treatment for his mental illness
OBAMA (2008 -16)

McCain replied, adding "if we had been defeated in Iraq, the radical elements in the Muslim world would have been dramatically encouraged."
We withdrew from Vietnam in defeat, the Vietcongs never came after us in the USA.
The trick, Sir McCain, is not start any kind of war…at all!

He acts like it's a video game where you either win or loose, as if the worlds problems are so black and white…man he needs to retire…

well,,, now hes chged his story again,,,,,(we will withdrawl),, ummm hes like bush,, wants to win at any expense,, well mr mccain,, listen to what people tell you,, BRING OUR TROOPS HOME WIN OR DEFEAT!!!! its time and long over due,,, quit bouncin and if possible remember the issues,,,, also your meds,, mccain,,,(dahhhh i cant remember),,, go obama!!!!!

But Senator McCain, how do YOU define victory in Iraq?

Do a reality check, McCain and Hillary supporters for McCain. It looks like John McCain's campaign is on the rocks. "Obvious", your comments are straight talk!

He does terrible at every town hall meeting he goes to. He can't even answer a questions without getting off on something else. It is really getting sad. He has had people stand up and questions his failed policies at just about every event. The news only shows them for a few minutes, if at all. The war, NAFTA, Veteran's benefits, Jobs…

I heard this lady–she hit every nail on the head but most in the audience were the Republican dittoheads chearing for war—ugh!!!

WHERE IS HIS FLAG PIN?

TEXAS, you have got to be talking about your candidate I am so dam sick of the republicans not seeing him for what he is IGNORANT he can't answer an easy question (The Viagra Question) must less a hard question, he can't even read from a teleprompter after they have written evey thing down for him and they HAND PICK the ones that will ask him question so he won't look like a DEER in headlights like he did when they ask him about the Viagra and Insurance he wasn't even smart enough to talk his way out of that question. He is down right Stupid he's an embarrasment to the Republican Party and if you see things his way you must have something in common with him, VIAGRA. Get you an educated candidate.

Im looking forward to Obama-McCain debate. McCain will get clobbered. He will have no teleprompter either.

Iraq invasion is with LIES and not of any truth!

If Bush invaded Pakistan or Saudi Arabia, now those areas would be in PEACE.

Now the Americans fight the same EVIL forces once Saddam fought. Can CNN elaborate the facts instead of telling SENSATIONAL news?

Gosh, reading many of these comments I thought I had inadvertently brought up Moveon… apparently there were quite a lot of angry folks at the meeting, and a lot more CNN readers, as represented here, who have time on their hands. To all I recommend that less time be spent crashing town hall meetings and/or contributing obvious stuff to be admired by John McCain's loyal opposition - and instead spend that time reading some history, or historical copies of the congressional record for that matter - it could reveal for them why many, many astute Americans are very comfortable with McCain at this time.

Wha did we win again? And I thought we won the war 5 years ago. Whay are we still there?

I guess this citizen was not a hand-picked invitee.

Really, we are not fighting for oil, guess that explains the $4 plus price. Thanks. What are fighting for in Iraq then? Please John, use all your experience and 26 years in the senate to explain to the grieving families of 4100 heroes why they gave their lives. Please explain to the troops why you did not bother to support a recent bill to improve their benefits. You know what my friend, forget it, your actions speak louder than words.

OBAMA 08!!!!

Here's hoping that the GOP/Bush/McCain/the Republican 45% of the House and Senate keep shoving Iraq at the American people who have already said once they've had enough of this incredibly foolish war. It's going to make for an awesome November.

Obama '08

Get it right Republicans. Iraq did not attack our country. Iraq did not threaten our country. Iraq did not have WMD's. Bush lied to you. He lied to the congress. He lied to the senate. He is lying now. His twin John McCain is lying to you now. Bald faced liars all.
Your President attacked another country for absolutely no reason except his EGO! What is more "Arrogant" than that? The Republicans are the terrorists. They are trying to terrorize us now, Just say no to lies and fear. I say YOUR president because he was never
MY president. I did not vote for him either time.
Why? Because I knew he was an illiterate moron the first time he opened his lying mouth. Get it right. If you aren't part of the solution you are part of the problem. Vote smart. Vote Obama.Vote America.

We spent 600 Billion dollars and killed 4000 Americans to NOT find Osama Bin Laden to NOT root out Al Qeada/Taliban in Afghanistan and to NOT find WMDs.

The Iraq war was and is a failure. The objective was to rid Saddam of WMDs. There were no WMds…failure.

What don't you people get?! Just because you do not understand the workings of state supported terrorism in the Middle East and that for decades Iraq has been a safe haven for terrorist groups such al Qaeda does not mean that this war was started on false pretenses. For five years now it has been people such as yourselves who have been screaming that this is another Viet Nam, yet you want us to withdrawl immediately and leave the state of Iraq up for grabs. Did you not pay attention when we helped Afghanistan defeat the Soviets and the left them with no real leadership, aid, or direction? Why do you think we have faced our current problems with terrorism in Afghanistan? Because we pulled out and did not finish what we started!! It is the height of irresponsibility to start what we have started in Iraq and then leave because the public doesn't like how things are going or how they are being done or whether they agree with the actions in the first place. If we pull out with ensuring that Iraq can indeed stand on its own, without our help, then we will have created an even larger breeding ground of hatred and terrorism for our future generations to deal with.

At least he went out of his way to let the woman speak her piece & ask the questions - he just didn't deliver the answers he should have.

Nobody likes to win a war, but when does it become such a boon-doogle that you're throwing away lives to prove a point (or trying not to look weak). Every soldier that dies or is maimed, is doing so because we cannot admit we made a mistake & we are trying to salvage something out of this horrible situation we find ourselves in.

I wonder if there is a magical #, that is we lose a certain # of soldiers, we'll be able to claim victory and go home.

Ask yourselves, do you feel more safe or less safe than 2001 - and include in that the following:

1) Personal Safety (life & limb)
2) Economic Safety
a) Do you fear foreclosure?
b) Nervous about food & gas prices?
c) How secure is your job?

Seriously now, does the 750 Billion dollars that have been spent in Iraq make you feel more safe or less safe?

McCain came across some angry questions at his town hall in New Hampshire Tuesday.' How does it FEEL!!!!

Right on Mike from Syracuse.

Hey McCain, why were one of three Senators that didn't vote on the confirmation of Petreus to be General on 10 Jul 2008, US Senate vote #172. The other two were Kennedy and Obama.

You like to talk of y our support for the military, yet y ou don't vote this confirmation, nor the expansion of the GI Bill last year.

You can't have your cake and eat too!!! Or you'll got the way of Marie Antoinette.

Texas… When does Obama avoid any questions? In fact.. it's McCain who always stamps his feet and cries every time someone says something about him that he doesn't like… then blames Obama as if Obama is the one saying it. Obama always said that he wants to set the 16 month goal.. but he would obviously take into account what is happening on the ground. How is that wrong? It's a plan.. it's an agenda, and its an end to a war. McCain has to plan or agenda, or any plans on ending this war. What exactly are we fighting for there at this point?

If you can answer what defines victory (even though McCain has already announced several times that we've achieved it), then you can make comments like the ones you make. McCain can't even answer what defines victory there… it's a question that's been asked of him time and time again.. by both parties, by conservative media, and most recently by the NY times. He has yet to answer this very simple and specific question…. which is the root of this entire war.

Mark Bham,looks like you are still living in the sixties and in Nam.You can wake up now.

What is he talking about winning? Let's move on! Let them have their friggin country and bring us the hell home!

McCain, when he went to Iraq said that permenent bases much like what we have in Korea, Germany and Japan are a model for Iraq. Now he is saying in the townhall meeting that we will withdraw.

Which one is it? Is he saying we will stay their permenently or will we withdraw like he said at the townhall meeting????

mccain dose straight lie on Iraq

CREDIT, WHERE CREDIT IS DUE…

at least HE, unlike Bush, actually let a dissenting comment IN….

NOW…. as for his answer…. he is beginning to remind me of Guilianni…. "a noun, a verb, and SURGE."

A open note to McCain
This is not our fight to win or lose the Irag war must be left uo to the people of Irag to wage. They want us out of there and like a good guest we should honered their wish. We can not claim vicory or see defeat this is not our country. We gave them the light and cleared the path for them now it is up to the them to see it through .

This is what happens when McShame starts whining
Now he can't answer question because he has no answers
It is about time that people start insisting on some answers, but McShame has none…Is he getting pale?
BARACK THE VOTE

There is an aweful lot of Obama staffers posting on CNN today.

Obama needs to quit hiding behind reporters, what is all the frenzy about Obama the news stations thinks he's a GOD, the way they report. it makes me sick. Wolf and Jack are as bad as any. We'll have to wait and see how the media covers the debates. I guess MCcain will get the first question, then Obama will just agree, so he doesn't have to think, just like the debates with Hillary. give me a break, OBAMA WOULD BE A DIASTER.

Sometimes a HUGE "victory" can be had by simply admitting a mistake has been made.

Poor John McCain…bless his little heart

Go Democrats 08′

What? What about the hundred years? Now he's agreeable to withdrawal. Honestly, can't McCain stick to his guns in the face of one woman from New Hampshire? No wonder he's not willing to negotiate. He's afraid he'll give away the store.

this is amazing. I see an blog on CNN, 95+% of the comments are all so extremely negatvie you sort of wonder if you read the same blog post.

Now, it's obvoius most of CNN's readers (or at least those that comment) are fiercly anti-McCain. but what I don't get is the comments never have anything to do with the storry.

It usally goes something like this.. "McShame/McSame/McLame (or some other variation of his name) is a lying bleah bleah bleah".

I am always surprised because I see the article, for instance this one, and it involved McCain being extremely resepctful. Taking questions that challenge his view and silencing the crowd such that the question can be asked. Answering the question respectfully. Begging his audience to respect everyone's views.

Yet, all the comments just call him names and yell because he doesn't have the same position they do on the war. My goodness children, grow up. Maybe one day you'll be a respectable civil servant like John McCain has been. Disagreements will happen people, it doesn't make people liars. The only bad character I see is in most of these comments.

Well, he handled it with tact without dodging the question, gave her respect though she disagreed with him, and clearly showed that he is willing to stand by what he believes, despite what the majority thinks. It's clled integrity and it's something that a lot of politicians seem to lack nowadays.

Kudos, John McCain.

> You'll rarely hear me say that so enjoy it while it lasts coming from a
> "high ranking" PUMA member.

How about donating a few buck to HRC's campaign to pay off her debt? Oh yeah, I forgot…

> We need to REDEPLOY to Afghanistan!!! That is where we should
> have been all along.

But then Haliburton and Blackwater wouldn't be making any money in Afghanistan… and isn't that what this is all about?

WIN WHAT? A WAR BUILT ON LIES AND OIL DEALS.

PUMA - Murphy July 22nd, 2008 4:23 pm ET

I can't say this enough. It's what the people of America want. We have given the Iraqi people everything that they need to run the country and we can now step out of Iraq. We can't stay there forever, it's hurting us with the loss of American lives and the money being spent.

This is where I, as a PUMA member agree 100% with Barrack Obama. We need to begin withdrawing troops, period. You'll rarely hear me say that so enjoy it while it lasts coming from a "high ranking" PUMA member.
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And PUMA is helping stop the war how? By working against Obama? That's real smart.

WMD's——None found
Chemical weapons—–Not found
Billions and billions spent, wasted, lost
Over 4,000 American soldiers gone
and McBush wants the US to stay for 100years
while the US needs to take of itself now and fix our country
McBush see's nothing wrong with borrowing from China
to pay for his 100 year war.
Out of Touch with America is McBush's theme.

"If we had been defeated in Iraq, the radical elements in the Muslim world would have been dramatically encouraged."

Interesting, because they say they are attacking us because we're over there. If we leave then they lose a major recruiting tool.

So two people had critiques of McCain. The woman who slammed the staff and this woman. If McCain can't control town hall meetings how can he run this country?

Didn't he say a couple of days ago that we had won the war in Iraq…
I am confused…can someone help me???

HOW long is McBush going to keep stating "we are succeeding", we will NEVER surrender, victory etc.

Obviously, McCain is soooooo out of touch with reality when it comes to IRAQ and ALL McCain could repeat is "the surge is working"….. the surge… the surge.

Well, if we DID NOT GO INTO THIS WAR, the surge would NOT be an issue right NOW….and thousands of our young men and women would NOT be dying due to idiots with BIG political egos!!!

If we withdraw without total military victory — the Iraqi army can control their own country — those insurgents who have withdrawn to neighboring areas waiting for the democrats' pitiful withdrawal in shame, they will return to Iraq and then the US will have to go back in there to an even bloodier war or allow Jordan, Syria and Iran to hack Iraq to pieces on their terms. Now, why would sane Americans want us to withdraw in shame?

What is there left to "win"? We toppled Saddam, we put a sovereign nation in place, who has now asked us to leave. If we don't we are now completely occupying a nation… that's not winning that's invading and we should be chastized by the UN at that point!

He's so out of touch it's a joke……. we need to focus on Afghanistan and the war on terror and get out of Bush's war for oil….. which he certainly has WON…. he's pushed the price of oil to record highs….. HE WON! he's even richer!!

What are we fighting for in Iraq?

They weren't in on 9/11.

They weren't an imminent threat to the United States and did not have WMD.

Maybe Bush made a promise to his daddy to get Saddam for him and that's all the troops in Iraq went over there for.

It diverts resources and troops from the real conflict. In going in there to fight we have created conflict where none existed before our invasion.

We need to get out of Iraq and focus on the only real enemy, Al Qaeda. Where is Osama Bin Laden anyways? You don't hear anyone really talk about him or finding him or killing him anymore, or why it's taken so long.

I would hate for our best, brightest and bravest in uniform to continue dying in vain for a war that never should have been allowed in the first place.

I'm sorry but what is there to win? John, you sound obsessed and your judgment is seriously lacking. I don't want you or your 'kind' running my country.

It's a free country–as long as the woman wasn't disruptive and allowed others in attendance to answer questions–she should be able to address her beefs with the government.

If it were BHO that lady wouldn't have got the first question out. Stories are already floating out that his entire trip was orchestrated. So those videos and everything were stages. Awesome. That is acting presidential.

MCCAIN YOU JUST GOT PUNKED BY GRANDMA !!!!!!!!!!

AND THIS MAN THINKS HE IS THE NEXT LEADER OF THE WORLD ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

I am glad that McCain took those tough questions. Unfortunately, it doesn't change the fact that he is wrong in his positions. He represents a party that is most interested in building the American economy on the backs of the rest of the world's citizens. Our presence in Iraq is an occupation, victory there cannot be quantified, and we are less safe because we do not understand the culture there and are mistakenly are trying to install ours instead. We attacked a sovereign nation that had not attacked us, nor would, nor could, simply for GWB's legacy, and in so doing completely destabilized the region. It is time to get out, time to move on and move forward. It is time to get the Republicans out of office! Anyone is going to do a better job than they are.

Lets get with the true reason Bush started this situation called WAR. I remember hearing Roosevelt when he declaired war on Germany. This presedent went to battel for oil and Sadam. He got Sadam so lets stop draining our nation and just say ,we got your dictator you are now on lour own,

Leaving now will be a winer not a looser.

Obama doesn't like these town meetings cause he would have to answer questions. Not a fan of McCain but at least he is not afraid to be questioned.

Susie, over 70% of Americans want this war to end. If 70% of the poplutation are "Obama's people" then McCain is in Big Big Trouble. Also, what's disrespectful about what the lady asked him? It's not like she was holding a banner up and shouting at him. She's just looking for the same answer that many of us are….what the h is "winning/victory" in Iraq. Also why should we vote for a guy who gives us no earthly idea of when troops can come home seeing that we've lost over 4100 so far. Sorry that she "disrespected" you candidate.

WE SHOULD NOT HAVE OPENED THE ROTTEN CAN OF WORMS, NOW WE HAVE TO SMELL IT.. OBAMA NEXT KING…

What does "victory" mean?

What does "defeat" mean?

Unless McCain can articulate why we are there and exactly what we are trying to accomplish, then these words “victory” and “defeat” have NO meaning. These are just buzz words that faintly echo of WWII when "victory" and "defeat" had clear a meaning.

Mark, B'ham., Al., -There is only leaving or permanent occupation, not win or lose. When there is no defined enemy left, like Saddam Hessian for example, who are we going to capture or who will surrender so that we can say we won? The Bush administration has said all along that when the Iraq government asks us to leave, we will leave. Its time to keep that promise

Interesting to see that a few anti-war Obamabots have become warmongers–now that he wants to withdraw in defeat and go on to Afghanistan to pursue what he calls the"real war against terrorism". The truth is, he wants his own war–not what he perceives as someone else's war.

The more McCain talks about "victory" the more he is going to be hammered about the Iraq war. He just doesn't get it but that's okay because he is his own worst enemy.

Susie - are you kidding? Have you not read any of the blogs CNN has posted today? All McCain does is disrespect Obama.

McCain makes absolutely no sense. How do YOU define that? When Haliburton and the Bush/Cheney war-mongering profiteers have made another 4 years of billions of taxpayer $?

Mark, B'ham., Al.

You are wrong! It was lack of planning and failure to define a wining plan that caused our loss in Vietnam. Iraq is currently in the same situation.
If we have won, then let's get out.

Obama is frrrrrrightening…brrrrr….buuuuu!

I am sure Obama is very frightening…but to republicans. Change is always frightening to lovers of inaction and status quo.

But I am sure that for the soldiers in Iraq, the unemployed and the uninsured at home, they all crave for the change and hope that Obama brings and November 4 can't just arrive fast enough.

On Experience - Dick Cheney and Ronald Rumsfeld. Two of the most experienced public figures in D.C. Rumsfeld had proven himself to be the most inept war manager. Under Cheney's presidency our economy, our constitution and our global standing are down the drain.

And for McCain, he is so experienced that after 40+ years in Washington and public service, what does he offer as solutions…to continue Bush presidency for 3rd term and Cheney's policies for 4 more years…

WOW! that experience in action!

It is really incredible on how inexperienced McCain is with “war”.
Likely as a war prisoner he has a distorted sense of what it takes to win.

He made a very bold statement about withdrawing from Iraq in victory or in defeat but he did not define victory. What that means is he will try to win at any cost.

Does anybody know if McCain received any mental treatment after his long period of captivity?

Looks like he needs some help!!

Mike, Syracuse, NY ~ You must only watch Fox News? Did you not see any of the town hall type forums that Obama had during the primary? Obama has held many stumps in big forums but he has also held Q & A with smaller groups. You could argue that those that attend would likely be supporters but certainly not all.

Certainly, even McCain volunteers have trouble handing him soft balls.

As far as debates go, it is typical for one side to offer the format that feeds their strengths and then accuse the other side of being afraid. It is normal posturing done in campaigns.

I do watch various networks, read various news sources and look at all the candidates and their activities to make my decision. You may find it helpful to turn off some of your filters before you make judgement.

So, Susie you believe that whenever an American has questions that may be too difficult for grandpa McCain to answer then it was a set up by the Obama campaign. Stop fooling yourself.

We HAVE to withdraw, because Dumbya broke the Army with extedned tours of duty. Now Afghanistan (Real War on Terror) is in flames, the Taliban is back and our troops need relief….What kind of victory is a war that should never have been fought?

I give him credit. It takes a lot to open the floor to questions from anyone in the crowd. While I think I might vote for Obama, I really need to see him handle a question from someone that does not agree with him and that is not given to his people before hand. I want to see how you would handle this Mr Obama.

His words of victory and defeat are meaningless .. he does not define either.

Victory is when we don't waste another penny of our tax dollars over there and not a single other soldier or innocent civilian is killed or injured.

McCain will not end the war.

McCain can't find Iraq on a map (at least not on those maps the rest of us are using — the ones that don't have an "Iraq-Pakistani border").

And Susie? McCain has disrespected you and your intelligence dozens of times over the last few weeks. The latest when he claimed in an attack ad that Obama was responsible for rising gas prices…

I don't think the candidates should debate until after the conventions and the official nominations.

If these town home meetings are continuing to go badly why does he kee p doing them

Even Bush is talking about reducing troop levels now. Does that mean we WON or we are DEFEATED????? LOL

Is it me or is CNN going overboard with the McCain postings. I wish they would stop letting polls determine how they are going to run their news and their web site. They did the same thing in the primaries when SNL did that hilarious Obama, Hilary, MSNBC, &CNN skit. They did the same thing. Stop being silly CNN>

Hey Susie you Tool, Obama is half way across the world and he sent this woman. Get a life, idiot.

Of course our presence inflames the muslim world.
But remember this is comning from someone who presssed the idea that we would be greated as liberators!
And who believes in a long term occupation in the mold of German/Korea/Japan.
He does not want to face the reality that that part of the world thinks of America as the Great SAtan. So much for foreign policy cred!

First they said that we would withdraw when Iraq wanted us to leave. Now the Republicans are saying once we have victory. Um, what are we trying to win? Oh yeah, OIL.

Being from canada, i feel so sad for you americans(the ones that support Mcshame)… You guys will never know what it's like living in a country that cares for its people!

People are just not buying what McCain is selling - Meet the New Boss, SAME as the OLD BOSS…..

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if anyone goes to one of McCain's town hall meetings would you mind asking him why he refuses to release his military records for me…i mean what does he have to hide? thanks

Mccain just flip flopped….now he his saying we will withdraw…..

Yeah Susie!!! Obama sent them from Jordan. You should be ashamed of yourself!!!

This guy is NOT in control. And he wants to make the media make him look good…..McWhine!

Well, he wanted attention… Now he's getting what he wished for.

Obama says to Withdraw as conditions on the ground permit.

Obama sounds just like Bush

It's always humorous when people against the war still vote for McCain for petty reasons like Obama's purported "lack of experience" Will this country ever learn?

Obama or Canada '08

well……the deperate times for the Rep. calls for them to do and say desperate things….even in "their" own town hall meeting………after all ,it was McCain's call for Obama to go to all the places he is now going to and being recieved so well………..thanks…….

susie July 22nd, 2008 4:28 pm ET

"It's a shame Obama sends people to McCain's events to disrespect him. McCain never does that to Obama."

Are you kidding me? Water seeks it's own level and only people who would think of doing this would accuse others, or Barack of doing it.

He has better things to do. And guess what, there are millions who believe as she does and came to that conclusion all by themselves.

It's funny how quickly people jump on a band wagon. Yesterday the New York Times asks McCain to define victory and now every other comment asks the same thing. I know the Kool Aid tastes good but you guys really need to think for yourselves.

I am glad that Senator McCain had the courage to answer a tough series of questions from a normal person without a scripted answer while the "no where near elitist" Obama was riding to the Jordanian Airport in a "royal Mercedes" with the King.

like when we won in korea, or vietnam?

At least Senator McCain is polite and lets those with opposing opinions speak (unlike George Bush).

However, the fact that he states that the Iraqi war is not inflaming to Arabs is disturbing. It shows a huge disconnect to what is actually going on.

When did the situation in Iraq become a WAR? I thought we went in there to liberate the people from Sadam, clear out the WMD, and shut down the terrorist operations. Now it is a war?

Did we forget why we went in there??

This guy does not know what winning means, he can not define what success means, all he knows is like his freind Bush go to war regardless what the conseqence is.

The comment made by Rep. Wilson is another example of the scare straight tactic…people please grow up.

Susie, no body has to send me if he was in my town. I would gladly ask the questions on my own.

DOWN. IN. FLAMES.

MCBUSH FIGURES BOTH BUSHS GOT ELECTED WITH

DECEIT & SLEAZE, WHY NOT HIM ?? HE GETS SO

INDIGNANT & BELLIGERENT WHEN THE VOTERS ASK

HIM QUESTION HE DOESN'T WANT TO ANSWER.

YOU CAN SEE THE "HOW DARE YOU ASK ME" IN HIS EYES.

McCain what is defeat? What is victory? What is a win? What are you talking about?

There are over 58,000 names on a black marble wall in Washington.
That is the reason we pulled out of Viet Nam. We were not prepared to keep losing high numbers of casualties for such limited progress in a difficult jungle war, for which we were not suited.
We didn't want to fight all we wanted to do was come home but we did what we had to to keep ourselves and the guy next to us alive.

Gotta love those arm chair Generals.

McCain replied, "We're going to withdraw. We will withdraw. The fact is whether we withdraw in victory or whether we withdraw in defeat."

What the heck does that mean exactly? Can some reporter have the guts to ask that simple question? If we went to Iraq for the wrong reason, how can we claim victory?

McCain came across some angry questions at his town hall in New Hampshire Tuesday……..Maybe you will stop ATTACKING Senator Obama

I respect that he took the question even if he's dead wrong.

Question: When in the hell can we leave then John Mccain. What about victory in Afghanistan. What about Osama Bin Laden( you know the guy on the Iraqi -pakistan border ooopps-I meant Afghanistan- Pakistani border who killed 3,000 Americans and is now on YOUTUBE videos.) You keep talking about victory in Iraq. WHAT ABOUT AFGHANISTAN! We want Bin Laden's HEAD!

I have not heard one comment that suggests victory is different between the candidates. However, McCain has said nothing of the DIPLOMACY to reach political objectives in Iraq and only of the need for our warriors to keep the peace.

BTW, they don't want our stinkin' bases there and our blulff will be called when they ask us to LEAVE.

susie July 22nd, 2008 4:28 pm ET

t's a shame Obama sends people to McCain's events to disrespect him. McCain never does that to Obama.
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Read the article. The woman whom spoke out is indeed a volunteer for his campaign, not some random Obama-bot.

The news did not tell all of the ladies question she in the early beginning asked didn't they enter the Iraq war illegal I never heard McCain give her an answer to that question . also McCain ignore the fact that the Prime Minister Al Malika agree with Barack Obama on withdrawning the troops in 16 months. McCain still want to take the stand as if Iraq is his country inspite of what Malika has said even though he said previously the U S will leave when ever the Iraqi government want them too. Is McCAIN FLIP FLOOPING NOW!!!!!

Grow up "Susie". "It's a shame Obama sends people to McCain's events to disrespect him. McCain never does that to Obama." YOU KNOW THIS HOW! Senator Obama's supporters are busy watching him on his middle east and European tour. I doubt you could pay one of Senator Obama's supporter to attend a McCain town hall to not only be bored to death, but it would cause us to miss out on any information regarding Senator Obama's trip. And, for what, to watch McCain put folks to sleep! Give it a rest Susie, you sound paranoid to me - pretty much like McCain, with his whining remarks that Senator Obama is receiving more press coverage than he is!!!

EVERYONE EXCEPT MC CAIN AGREES IT'S TIME TO WITHDRAW OUR TROOPS INCLUDING BUSH, AND MOST OF ALL THE IRAQ GOVERNMENT.

Guess what Iraqis - we have spent trillions on your stinking country. I have news for you. We will leave when WE feel like it, not a second before. McCain will keep us in Iraq until we have freedom and democracy there - even if 99.9% of Iraqis are against it. The president needs to think about what Americans want, not what Iraqis want.

mike from syracuse ny
You know you have got to be one of the ignorant posters besides lisa if you follow politicts than you should know the debates dont start until after the conventions, one can clearly see your a republican ( IGNORANT)

interesting how Obama's supporters won't extend McCain the courtesy that he does his critics.

makes you wonder what they're afraid of

I'd like to see Obama in a town hall meeting that isn't handpicked beforehand. All those throngs of zombies that will follow him to the end of the world. I can't wait until four years from now, when the rest of us are saying "I told you so."

I hope more mothers, fathers and the loved ones of our