July 24, 2008
Posted: 07:32 AM ET

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A new poll shows a racial divide over Americans' views on whether conditions in this country have improved for black men.
A new poll shows a racial divide over Americans' views on whether conditions in this country have improved for black men.

(CNN) — Although blacks and whites agree that conditions have improved for African-American women over the past decade, there are very different views on the status of black men, according to a CNN/Essence Magazine/Opinion Research Corporation poll released Thursday morning.

According to the new poll, while 60 percent of whites think that conditions have improved for African-American men in the last 10 years, only 35 percent of blacks agree. Nine percent of whites and more than a third of blacks say conditions have worsened for African-American males in the same time period.

There is greater optimism about the past 40 years, but the gap remains the same — 85 percent of whites and only 58 percent pf blacks think that conditions have improved for black men since 1968.

Conversely, a majority of both races believe black women have made progress over the last decade, and especially since 1968. The survey shows 65 percent of blacks and 70 percent of whites say conditions have improved for black women since 1998 while 75 percent of blacks and 87 percent of whites say life has improved for black women over the last 40 years.

The poll results are part of a CNN special report hosted by Soledad O'Brien, Black in America: Stories of success, struggle, pain and pride. The special airs on CNN Wednesday and Thursday night, 9 p.m. ET.

When it comes to media's treatment of African-American men, just a quarter of blacks think the media treats them fairly. That compares to close to 60 percent of whites who say the media treats black men fairly.

Both races believe rap music has been a bad influence for African-American men: 68 percent of blacks and 72 percent of whites say rap has negatively affected that demographic.

Meanwhile, when it comes to interaction between the two races, close to 60 percent of blacks report they have daily contact with whites; by contrast, 39 percent of whites say they have daily contact with blacks.

"Do not take this as evidence that whites who live close to blacks avoid contact with them," CNN Polling Director Keating Holland said. "These results may simply be a function of the fact that many whites live in areas where few or no blacks live, such as Appalachia, the Great Plains or the Rocky Mountain states."

Whites are also more likely than blacks to report the same phenomenon in their neighborhoods, their workplaces, and in local schools. But when it comes to churches, blacks and whites say in roughly equal numbers that their church is comprised mostly or entirely of people of the same race.

"The old adage that Sunday is the most segregated day of the week may still be true in the U.S.," Holland said.

The poll was conducted March 26-April 2 and carries a margin of error of plus or minus 2 or 3 percentage points depending on the question. 1,014 blacks and 1,001 whites were surveyed.

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Xavier, Saint Louis, MO   July 24th, 2008 12:09 pm ET

Good old America. It's 2008 and we are still talking about black and white race relation. I would love to see the day when everyone is consided, in this country, American! NO White, NO Black, NO Asian, NO Latino, JUST AMERICAN!

Nomad   July 24th, 2008 12:09 pm ET

Race discrimination did not end with slavery. The sixties civil rights movement and brown vs board of ed. could be considered the end of government enforced racism. That being said for all the irish, welsch, german etc. it took between 3 and 5 generations for mainstream acceptance and educational success for each group. Tolerance in the US is 1000 times better then before and continues to improve but it will take time. Each grouop has it's own experience with discrimination and it is sad when we can't listen and accept. I would not tell a holocaust survivor that it was a long time ago and he should get over it. Native Americans got the worst of it because they now make up less then 1% of the US population I wouldn't say yea but you got free land. If people could could just post their own experience and not put down other people then that will lead to the discussion, but people have a hard time just listening

William, from Cali!   July 24th, 2008 12:06 pm ET

As long as "whites men" feel threaten……… by "black men"; and "black men" are "comfortable with not changing their lowly position in "Corporate America", at the "Seat of Economic Power"; we are to forever, lag behind. And to those "Black women", that do "make it"; I say, "reach back, and give your man or that other brother, a helping hand", instead of a "slap in the face"………. that might just help make, the situation get a little bit better.

Matt-NE   July 24th, 2008 12:06 pm ET

Please quit fueling the race-baiting CNN.

You are continuing to show your democrat ways.

LT for Obama   July 24th, 2008 12:05 pm ET

I for one cannot understand why some of you lump us all into the same box. I have never expected to be handed anything from whites, I have never demanded an apology.

I think that for those of you who want to make comparisons, maybe you need to learn the history of how our ancestors came to America against thier will. You see, a bunch of folk got on a boat and went to Africa and hunted young Africans piled them into their boats and brought them to America and sold them. Many were killed on these boats, many were killed for trying to escape. This is just a very brief history that you really need to do the research on. It such a small part of how we became the United States of America.

I would also urge you to seek out the accomplishments of AA's in this country and their inventions that now help you live a more comfortable life.

A proud AA who works hard for what she has and never asks for a handout.

Sal in Phoenix   July 24th, 2008 12:00 pm ET

Conditions have improved for those blacks who want conditions to improve…we need to stop blaming todays whites who had nothing to do with slavery…schools are free, you just have to go! It's not the white's fault that black parents don't show the same nurturing towards their children as whites do..we need to stop making excuses and start taking responsibility for our actions and in-actions.

Independent in Iowa   July 24th, 2008 11:59 am ET

I believe they have. Blacks aren't the only minority in this country to face discrimination. You have latinos, gays, etc.

Overall, as the old haters die off things are getting better.

Jan   July 24th, 2008 11:58 am ET

I meant slavery 200 years ago! Just upset with all the negatives.

Jan   July 24th, 2008 11:57 am ET

I can't believe the number of people who jumped on Ming Ho for saying that hard work will get you somewhere. Just goes to show that a lot of (dems)? out there still want to be known as saviours of "victims". Maybe blacks would rather have stayed in Africa where there is real racism. We are not responsible today for 200 years of slavery!

ali   July 24th, 2008 11:56 am ET

i dont know of any race in this country whose 'conditions' have improved,only a few individuals who won the lottery.there are a few select segments of society that have had improving conditions:big oilmen,corporate ceos,halliburton.a few of those who were wealthy 10 years ago are the only ones with improving conditions.the rest of us are getting poorer ,regardless of race.

TESAP; SAVANNAH, GA   July 24th, 2008 11:56 am ET

James Buchanan is soo right. Africans did sell other Africans into with the help of Porteguese…. However… the language barriers wow…. The Africans sold were caught by the tribe……….they were sold for a 3-6month period………….. But the Porteguese nor the Whites ever brought them back…………. I wonder why????

disgraced American   July 24th, 2008 11:54 am ET

I don’t believe there have been any significant changes in the black community. After watching portions of the ‘black in America’ segment on CNN, I felt the program did little to shed light on the black community. There are so many social-economic problems that have plagued Americans of African descent that it didn't surprise me that there was no new angle presented about the condition of Americans of African descent. There were no new ideas to change the unchanging disgrace of our nation. How can we as a nation try to police the world when there are too many problems on the home front?

With that being said, I think there are minimal improvements that have been made in the black community. I am an American of African heritage and I come from Detroit, MI and I now live in Florida where I'm working on my BA. I had a difficult journey in life, but I endure and I continue to fight; but my story isn't the typical story of many people in the Detroit area. I remember hearing a startling figure that said only 25% of Detroit's students finish high school! This country has to focus on building its eternal infrastructure if it hopes to change the life for all Americans. Until conditions change, there will always be the lingering argument about the physical and physiological damage of a people who were forcibly brought to this country as slaves; freed, than hated, murdered, and disgraced, because of their race.

Vegas Barbie for Obama   July 24th, 2008 11:53 am ET

Everyone should tune into Soledad O'Brien's second part of "Black In America" tonight (Thursday) as it is focusing on black men in America. An interesting point in last night's episode focusing on black women, highlighted the fact that black women are recruited by colleges, according to Juliette Malveaux, president of a women's college, ironically, "intentionally" more than black males. More black women have degrees as opposed to black men, etc. Tonight's episode should be an interesting and hopefully enlightening conclusion to the coverage of this important topic.

TESAP; SAVANNAH, GA   July 24th, 2008 11:51 am ET

vw……….. ummmm…. neither mind.

If the race in which we are discussin does not think conditions are better; WELL THEN NO OTHER RACE CAN COMMENT ON THAT. DOES IT REALLY MATTER IF WHITES THINK THINGS ARE SOOO MUCH BETTER………. OR IS THAT THE PROBLEM???

Annoy the Media, say NO to Obama   July 24th, 2008 11:50 am ET

Seriously folks,

If America is so racist, why do so many Non-White Immigrants do so well here. Did you ever think that its because of their hard work and family values. There are millions of people who not only are not white but had to learn new customs and to speak english. You dont see them whining!! Ask any Korean, Indian, Greek, Chinese, Philipino, etc and so on and so on. Ask these people about the American dream to succeed.They did it by working hard and not by expecting hand outs.

Get life people.

lady in michigan   July 24th, 2008 11:49 am ET

News by poll, news by anecdote — that's what this super-hyped "Black in America" comes down to. You know, CNN, there are actually facts to report in this regard… the stuff that researchers find, and intelligent people can analyze…

Terri   July 24th, 2008 11:48 am ET

Get an education, don't do drugs, work hard, teach your children the right way, Love your family and God, manage your finances well, do your patriotic duty and vote and race does not matter in this country.

57 Reasons To Vote For Barack   July 24th, 2008 11:46 am ET

Dear 57 States,

It won't take me 57 seconds to figure out you're a racist.

Obama 08

Dave   July 24th, 2008 11:45 am ET

Hey, what "improvement"?
Can't get much better than "everything free"
Section eight housing, food stamps, medicaid, just yell "discrimination" and you get anything you want…front of the line baby.

Donny   July 24th, 2008 11:44 am ET

Until black people stop referring to themselves as African American instead of just American like the rest of us then there will always be a racial divide. Afica is a continent made up of many countries.

You're No African-American   July 24th, 2008 11:42 am ET

Dear xddy4u,

You can't be an African American because you said you were an Afro-American brother. I don't believe it. Most African Americans don't call themselves Afro-Americans any longer, because there's no such place as Afroland. Nice try, but it didn't work.

An afro is a hairstyle, and nothing else.

Chanda Cincinnati Ohio   July 24th, 2008 11:33 am ET

To Z…

You do have a WET equivalent to BET…its called FOX NEWS NETWORK!!!!!!!!!

DB   July 24th, 2008 11:33 am ET

If anybody thinks things are that great send your kid to a public school in the District of Columbia. No way can a DC Public school graduate compete with kids from private schools. I believe education is the key. All private schools in the Washington area cost approximately $25000 + per year. The District spends considerably more per student for public. If you want to level the playing field fix the urban and rural school systems so kids are engaged by their teachers. Most undereducated kids live in urban and rural areas which is not where the resources are spent. I don't care what your race if you don't have the opportunity for a good education and kids don't have the support system at home or in their communities to encourage them chances are they will fall into the negative activities that surrounds them.

That being said many minority kids attend decrepit underfunded schools and although the education is free it's useless longterm.

Bruce   July 24th, 2008 11:27 am ET

As an AA, it really baffles me how so many people of other minority groups can speak for AAs. Their plite is not ours. No other imigrant was dragged to this country against their will as was our people. So don't compare your experiences to mine…it's not the same. Anglo-Americans generally have thought of themselves as superior to AAs through-out the years. That sentiment still exists to a certain degree because of the historical slave-master relationship. That relationship did not exist with other immigrants per se. So, the scars from this relationship have not full healed with time, although I believe it's getting better. I've always thought that the Cival Rights movement of the '60 was an imcomplete merging of cultures–black and white cultures. We merged physically, but did not completely merge ideologically. We're not finished, but time should help with that. So, Ming Ho and other, lets agree to disagree, that for AAs, the struggle is different and much harder than yours–it's not as simple as working hard to do well. AAs struggle with acceptance, even as we work twice as hard, in some cases, as our contemporaries.

vw   July 24th, 2008 11:25 am ET

Each man is created equal.
So I am thinking the black will be equal to the white only when the black meets the same requirements for university admission and any job offer as the white, does the black agree on this issue?

Stella   July 24th, 2008 11:24 am ET

Hey Janey/Michigan I thought the article was about whether conditions have improved for African-Americans. Your statement bashing Obama proves that AA's still have a ways to go.

LAI   July 24th, 2008 11:23 am ET

Wow… based on the venom spewing from these posted comments, that each of you had to think about, type and submit, I'd say that the numbers reported are right on the money.

Kathy in Union City   July 24th, 2008 11:16 am ET

First, the title of the piece is simplistic and shallow. The issues confronting African American people are like those of any nationality, very complex and must be addressed within the confines of political and systemic issues in American history and culture.

The best discourse I can think of that addresses these complexities is the speech on race given by Barrack Obama.

TO MING HO - You clearly have no conscientiousness about the history of Africans in this country and thus your statement is one made in ignorance. Just as one cannot blame the victim of a crime for the crime perpetuated on him/her, you cannot blame African Americans for being victim of racism. I would agree however, that in the face of a hostile political and economic climate, that African Americans must begin to take personal responsibility and "do for themselves".

Let me add that Asians too are the victims of racism, although from my vantage point, a racism that allows Asians more favorable access. Please do not be so bias as to forget that your people do not have a heritage of broken families such as that sustained by slaves; lynchings, inability to vote and still today the list can go on and on.

The gains and access you enjoy today have to do with the sacrifices by Dr. Martin Luthur King and others who advanced the needs of people of color.

TO A NIGHTINGALE SINGS IN BERKLEY SQUARE:
(1) Answer the question (2) Get on the Democratic Bandwagon and please don't vote against your own self interest. i.e. Remember the Supreme Court will change with this next election.

fairandstraight   July 24th, 2008 11:16 am ET

San,

I agree with you. Things have improved, but here in the South, the pay scale is a problem for the same work; even if the qualitly of work produced by blacks are better. I too have been very successful at gaining positions, but the pay has not be the same.

young voter   July 24th, 2008 11:16 am ET

and for the love of God….let Hillary go….she lost….get over it

David   July 24th, 2008 11:14 am ET

Improved?

What kind of question is that?

I guess you'll expect a thanks for improving situations next?

Don't plan on it coming from me.

I served my country, paid my taxes…Now all of a sudden I am supposed to show gratitude for a nation "improving" on treating a whole race of people equally?

Absurd.

You should be ashamed iof yourself, if you need to "improve"
on racial equality.

young voter   July 24th, 2008 11:13 am ET

A nightingale Sings in Berkley Square wrote: "Isn't it funny that most of Ossama's supporters are uneducated and illiterate"…….??????…..his largest demographic support comes from college educated white males……read a newspaper

Joe L   July 24th, 2008 11:11 am ET

The fact that black people are still being called african americans shows we have a long way to go.

Response to Maggie -- PLEASE POST MY COMMENT -- THANKS!   July 24th, 2008 11:10 am ET

To Maggie and CNN:

First of all, this topic should not be on the political ticker. This is more of a substantive, historical socio-economic phenomenon that has left many blacks in this country disillusioned by the government's involvement since the trans-atlantic slave trade. J

ust think about it, for a huge majority of whites in this country, for generations, they have accumulated wealth, attained higher socio-economic status, and benefited off of free labor of the Africans that were brought here over 400 years ago. Can you imagine working for years and years and giving your salary to someone who says that they own you? Where would that leave them financially? I would say that we as a people are making progress, however, just think about the psychological, social, and financial effects that have impacted many African Americans. Many are still hurt and feeling pain from hard times that were faced in this country. Just like the Jews and the holocaust, many blacks still feel the same type of sentiment. Although there are many blacks who have made great strides in getting past the pain of discrimination, a lot are so stuck in generational disfunction where there is no family guidance nor structure. These are some characteristics and side effects of post-slave mentality. We as a modern American society superficially could say that blacks are given the same opportunities as whites, but if you look at the overall picture, it's obvious that there are serious issues that need to be acknowledged and dealt with.

So Maggie as far as I'm concerned, you have a point, you should be disappointed, but this nation has not healed from the wounds of slavery. The government has not officially apologized for it. People of color have to forgive and and move in a more progressive way to makea better life for their children.

But to answer the question, life is definitely better for African Americans, but there are still those who cannot accept that they have to take accountability for their actions and be more self responsibility. This goes for everyone, black, white, yellow, brown, and red.

not an obamabot, thank GOD   July 24th, 2008 11:09 am ET

Felicia July 24th, 2008 10:42 am ET

Ming Ho…. Race does matter. Until you have had black skin and lived in the United States your opinion does not matter. This country will give a sba loan to an Asian, Hispanic or White person way faster then they would a black man

got to hell you idiot, minorities get grants and scholarships, while whitey gets loans to pay back. black men dont care about college if they did they would go. dont give me this crap that no college will accept a black man either when there are hundreds of historacally BLACK colleges they can choose from.

Lewis   July 24th, 2008 11:08 am ET

There are more than just African Americans in this country (Mexican, Japanese, Middle Eastern, etc). I'd venture to say most of them would rather take their chances here. This IS the land of opportunity if you work your hiney off.

IT'S CALL RESPECT   July 24th, 2008 11:07 am ET

Try trading places with an African American, but back in time
80 plus years ago and come back to the present and you will have
your answer.

obamerican canada   July 24th, 2008 11:07 am ET

MAGGIE,
I could not agree more with you,if we fight hard we will progress.

SHOTTA NIC:
I also understand you but you have to put that away from your head and work hard as an individual, you dont have to be complaining about race and so.put into consideration that there are enough blacks who are from the same neighbourhood like you who are doing well and there children are living more respectiful life,are they not blacks?.why not look at such families to give you more hope that if you try you will make it instead of lookin at those who dose'nt think of a brighter future.
you dont have to be on the street trying to make people see you as a hard man so they can be afraid of you and still expect them to trust you and work with you. you can't eat your cake and have it

GO AND THINK WELL ,CHANGE YOUR BEHAVIOUR AND PEOPLES APROACH TO YOU WILL CHANGE TOO ,BECOME RESPONSIBLE.

life is not just leaning how to dance,smoke,cont how many girls you have as girl friend, it is all about aticulation and wll reasoning.

bye for now.

once more i thank you maggi for tour vision.

from black man in canada doing well.

ARB   July 24th, 2008 11:06 am ET

How come people forget that there have also been white slaves as well as black slaves. If you wanna feel sorry for black people, why can't you also feel sorry for white people?

Marguerite, NYC   July 24th, 2008 11:05 am ET

As I wrote earlier, but CNN didn't see fit to publish, while hard work can pay off, there's a whole lot more going on than just that. With all due respect Ming Ho, African Americans are much more discriminated against in this country than Asians.

Anonymous   July 24th, 2008 11:02 am ET

Sure conditions have improved!!!!!!! How could conditions for black Americans not improved? A black American is running for President. We have had 2 black Americans as Secretary of Defense in the last 2 Administrations.
Talk to black woman who cannot find black men to marry, because they do not have goals or want to work full time. There is a major reason that 45 percent of black women are not married and 23 percent of white women are not married. Ask a black woman, she will tell you the truth.
Education and jobs are many times ridiculed in the black community. There is no shame when that happens. The breakdown of the family encourages that as well.
Times have changed incredibly since the 1960s and to say they have not is simply irresponsible. People in this country need to understand that with every right comes a responsibility. That applies to all people, whether they be black, white, yellow , brown or green.
But ask any black woman her opinion about many black men.

Beverly, NYC   July 24th, 2008 10:59 am ET

Dear A nightingale Sings in Berkley Square:

The same negative comments could be said of you. For every finger you point at someone else there are at least 3 fingers pointing back at you. After reading some of your vile posting I wonder how does someone get this filled with hatred? Please enlighten me.

CNN, how about some real moderation.

scooter   July 24th, 2008 10:59 am ET

Yes race has changed. sometimes for the good, sometimes for the bad. handouts on the otherhand do not improve a persons ability no matter what race. The person has to choose what path. in life and not blame it on there color or gender. Sometimes I find it very one sided as to where grants and funding comes from and to. A very double standard.

Connie   July 24th, 2008 10:58 am ET

Being a white person I do not feel qualified to answer this question. I do find that all black leaders and those who have achieved there goals should stand up and help to educate every one on all race relations. Also white people need to do the same . That is why I think Senator Obama can be an effective President, because I believe his does understand all people,black,white,brown and red.And all people should stand up for him . OBAMA 08

Connie from Indiana

17 year old future politician   July 24th, 2008 10:56 am ET

Im a black guy and I feel as though we have, our college rate is going up, as well as our presence in occupations that had low numbers of blacks. We as a people have a lot of work to do, and saying that our conditions haven't improved and looking at our negatives, isn't a way to move toward progression.

LA2NC   July 24th, 2008 10:56 am ET

A nightingale Sings in Berkley Square July 24th, 2008 10:29 am ET

Hey I visited the Berlin Wall when it was dangerous and the press didn't cover my trip
________________________________________________
Do you get paid by the number of times that you cut and paste this comment?

Chanda Cincinnati Ohio   July 24th, 2008 10:54 am ET

To Ming Ho:

I do believe that if you work hard, you can be successful in this country, but I think you are extremely naive if you, or anyone else believes race does not still play a major role in this society. I am an African American woman, I am college educated, and I consider myself successful. But yet I am still monitored in certain stores that I visit, to make sure i am not stuffing merchandise down my pants. I stopped by a grocery store near by my job the other day on the way home, in a predominantly white neighborhood. I had changed into some sweats because I was on my way to work out. The cashier took one look at my attire, and my skin color and told me to make sure I had my foodstamp card ready. My son got stopped, going to a friends swim party, in a predominantly white neighborhood, last summer. He was not speeding, he was wearing his seat belt, and to this day, the two police officers involved can not tell me why they pulled my son out of the car, cuffed him, laid him face first on the ground, and asked him if he stole the BMW he was driving…MY BMW!!! Just look at the racisits and culturally ignorant comments that get posted on this ticker about Barack Obama. The thought of an African American becoming president nauseates some people in this country. There are some African Americans in this country that are simply not trying to better there circumstances. Just like there are some Whites, Asians, Latinos, and Native Americans who are not using the resources available in this country to their fullest potential. But somehow, media distortions, and sterotypes, allow some people to lump all African Americans into the category of gang banger, or hood rat, rapper or thief. Until all sides are willing to sit down and understand the differences, and accept that it is okay to be different, then we will NEVER be rid of the racial problem plaguing this country.

Is it true?????   July 24th, 2008 10:48 am ET

If black adults (BOTH men and women), support their sons and brothers, and encourage, recognize and support education goals for their boys, things will change. Without a serious attitude and attempt to educate yourself, black males will always fail. Schools cannot replace basic attitudes and life goals. That happens inside a loving and supportive environment and requires consistent effort and long-term commitment.
Too many black women are single mothers trying to work multiple jobs and raise a family…..fortunately,many black girls see this, and all the pitfalls, and have strong aspirations to get out of that kind of trap. Young boys do not always identify strongly with their mothers and do not see the pitfalls. A single Mom has so many pressures on her that she often can't be Mom, Dad, breadwinner, pal, playmate, etc. etc. The boys look more to peers when Mom can't fill all of their needs and there is no Dad around.
There is no substitute for hard work and striving to educate yourself through schools, online programs, church programs, afterschool programs, and just going to the library and getting help to learn to read. The resources are in virtually every community……no matter how poor. It's support and desire that is often missing.

STILL FOR HILL   July 24th, 2008 10:48 am ET

I'm so tired of being portrayed as the mean, rich, racist, white people.

Guess what CNN? I am white, but never have I been racist, mean or rich.

Just a working white guy, raising four nieces, and just so happen to be gay, but I'm not crying over being discriminated against.

Thanks for nominating the least qualified candidate for President Dems… I really appreciate it…

McCain 08

Beverly, NYC   July 24th, 2008 10:47 am ET

I think if these polls were broken down by black americans who emigrated here for a better life the numbers would be drastically different.

As a person of color from the caribbean, there were many conversation in my household citing how lazy black americans were that the didn't realize how good they have it here if they applied themselves. Who drops out of school, when it's free! Growing up, if my american friends brought home bad grades there were no measurable consequences. In my west indian household bad grades and negative comments from the teacher led to a beating, more chores, and parents constantly on your back until you got the message, and no one called child welfare. I think today that part of the problem we have people who want to be friends with their children and not parents. Also coming from a country where the Prime Minister, lawyers, doctor, teachers look just like you shows young people where they can be some day, it was not a stretch to believe you can be a Prime Minister if the current one look like you. Which is one of the reasons I am extremely happy Barack Obama is running for President, win or lose, he is a role model he has shown black and white america for that matter what can be accomplished through education and hard work.

Rob from VA   July 24th, 2008 10:47 am ET

I am a black man and I strongly agree with Maggie. As a collective, black folks have come a long way, but we still have so far to go. I was touched with the Black in America special last night, but one thing really stood out to me when I was watching. Black men need to stand up…stand up…..stand up. By fathers taking a responsible, leadership role in his family, children will do better, they just will. Without leadership in the household, where does that leave us. Where a lot of black families are today, in a state of confusion.

I am a product of a single parent home, but my father was around…..and very accessible. That is what mattered the most. He taught me what it meant to be a man…to be proud of my manhood not ashamed. He told me that not going to college was "not an option."

Concerned in Alabama   July 24th, 2008 10:44 am ET

A nightingale Sings in Berkley Square:

This section is not about Obama, Osama, and Berlin. It's about being black in America.

No guessing about WHO you are!

Post your nasty comment in the right section.

Your comment tells me you haven't accomplished anything either.

Charles Arizona   July 24th, 2008 10:43 am ET

Things have improved for the black. As long as they are willing to see it. I can be right next to a black and not notice him/her, unless it is brought to my attention. I.E. the term is called "Shuckin & Jivin". When the behavior is displayed with intelligence and not "Victim" like, they are not seen as different. But the attitude is 50% of blacks want more. Granted I will give you - "Cop Shops are filled with bigots." But I see then as bigotted against all non white races. If the country starts showing alittle equality, some people, like Jackson & Sharpton, feel they have to do somthing to claim racism. Heck, Rev Wright spouts it everyday. The less educated black are also guilty of this, but not all fall into this catagory. But it is they who have to demonstrate equality, does or does not, exist. I am sure this will be turned into racist statements, but it is how I feel.

D in MO   July 24th, 2008 10:42 am ET

Ming you are half right and insensitive to boot. Following the article, your comment implies that we (African-American males don't work hard). Many ethnic groups that come to the US have received and continue to receive breaks that are not available to african-americans.
I served my country for 9 years in the USAF and make a decent living in my civilian job but a great many are not as fortunate as i have been. My mother works hard (your only criteria for "doing well") and she still struggles so its not as simple as you would like to make it seem.

Felicia   July 24th, 2008 10:42 am ET

Ming Ho…. Race does matter. Until you have had black skin and lived in the United States your opinion does not matter. This country will give a sba loan to an Asian, Hispanic or White person way faster then they would a black man. We as a people have to go over and above the call of duty to get things the things that other races basically have handed to them. Things have improved for us, but at the same time a lot has stayed the same.

Maggie, I think you may want to speak for yourself. SOME of our people are do those things that you mentioned in your sermon. You failed to mention the African Americans who are doing well for themselves. The high school graduates, the college graduates, the role models for these children who were born out of wedlock, the single mothers who work and go to school to get out the system. Don't speak about my people like everyone is a big disappoinment. People always focus on the negative. Could we better as a people? Yes…. We could. Give us time, we are working on it. CHANGE is coming.

OBAMA 08!!

Bama A.T.   July 24th, 2008 10:41 am ET

Hey Ming Ho, Race does matter, it doesn't matter as much as it did yesterday and it won't matter as much tomorrow as it did today but race does matter. Consider yourself lucky to have never experienced difficulties from the color of your skin. Sure enough you're right everyone has to work hard to get somewhere in life…But there are some who have, will and do experience tougher times because of their skin color and not just African Americans either. But to answer the poll…African Americans conditions have improved by leaps and bounds but I think minorities in general still have leaps and bounds to go.

Black In America   July 24th, 2008 10:39 am ET

Conditions for African-American have not changed as a whole. And probably will never change as long as the Prison system remains to be big business for the Government and Corps like slavery was. I just read in the USA TODAY that Death Row Inmates wait for execution has doubled during the past 2 decades costing $90,000. Why?? Big Business. I make $20,000 a year, while I don't live a lavish life I live and go about day to day life in America. So I'm sure that it don't cost $90,000 a year to keep someone in a concrete box. So where is our Tax money going?? Big Business! And we're not even going to get into the general prison population. And yes its easy to say, don't get locked up. But when you are at the bottom of society in a system that is not built to help the bottow only the top (tax cuts), you have got to do something to eat. And unfortunatly without jobs in the community(nafta) what's left?? Drug dealing (Iran Contra) and stealing the two main crimes that black men are in jail for today. Now I watch the Government spend Billions of dollars to go as they call it fight for peoples well being and living conditions half way across the globe but its an issue to get them to spend a fraction of that to help the people here. Rebuild what was never built in America then worry about others first. Because like I stated before I make $20,000 a year and where I come from I've made it but when I look at it from a national stand point I'm still in poverty and one pay check away from being homeless. Now is America a great country yes but what we have to realize is that America is one big country with alot of 3rd world countries within its borders. Some call them the hood, some call it the slums but I call it home.

Concerned in Alabama   July 24th, 2008 10:36 am ET

Ming Ho:

With all due respect, you don't know what it means to be black in America. In this country, race does matter regarding "blacks."

Jim in Orlando   July 24th, 2008 10:35 am ET

This continued feeding of a diet that craves "victimization" is nauseating. In the end, most of us want no part of an "I've been treated more unfairly than you" debate. Its self-debasing, and those that dwell in it are destined to wallow in it. The last thing I want to hear from any perspective employee in a job interview is that a failure to achieve was someone else's fault. We all have our "unfairnesses" to overcome. So get over it already, and get on with yourselves.

RACISM WILL BE OFFICIALLY OVER   July 24th, 2008 10:35 am ET

IF OBAMA IS ELECTED, RACISM WILL BE OFFICIALLY OVER IN AMERICA. NOBODY CAN EVER SAY THAT WHITES SUPPRESS BLACKS AGAIN IF WE ELECT OBAMA. AND WHILE WE ARE AT IT, WE CAN FINALLY GET RID OF AFFIRMITIVE ACTION AS WELL SINCE AN OBAMA PRESIDENCY WILL PROVE THAT ANYONE, OF ANY GROUP, CAN ACHIEVE ANYTHING THEY WANT. THE ONLY THING WE WILL HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THEN WILL BE THE LEVEL OF SEXISM IN AMERICA AND HOW MEN VIEW WOMEN AND THEIR ROLES IN POLITICS, BUSINESS, AND IN LIFE. SO FAR, NOBODY, NOT EVEN OBAMA, IS WILLING TO DISCUSS THIS VERY IMPORTANT AND NEGLECTED ISSUE.

dems be dopes   July 24th, 2008 10:34 am ET

Ming Ho

Well said! Attitude and hard work determine success, not apathy and entitlements.

Bill Cosby would agree.

Jesse "Nuts" Jackson and not so sharp Al would disagree however.

Chris from NY   July 24th, 2008 10:34 am ET

We can talk about race until death do us part. The point is that we are making progress. Most changes are not dramatic especially in the areas of people's belief and practice. It takes time to overcome. We have come a long way and have some more to go. That's life.

Anarchy1   July 24th, 2008 10:33 am ET

Ming, sorry but you're sadly mistaken. Don't let the NFL, Obama, and the handful of successful black entertainers fool you. Black men are behind in nearly every measurable statistic regarding quality of life in the United States of America. Hard work is important, but many of us still have to work twice as hard to get half as far. I'm currently the ONLY black male studying for a Ph.d. in my field out of nearly 40 students…this semester only five new AA students were admitted out of 25. None were male. I look around and see no one that looks like me on campus…its sad. My cousin who is in jail, however, sees plenty of us around him. Something is not right with that picture.

Lillie   July 24th, 2008 10:33 am ET

Ming, fyi…..even when you work twice as hard, race does matter far too much in many parts of America. And I'm really surprised you haven't experienced it yet!

Julia   July 24th, 2008 10:33 am ET

With all do respect Ming Ho, you might not say that if you were a Black male.

Chuck, Euigene Oregon.   July 24th, 2008 10:33 am ET

Yes, life has imporved for Blacks in America. My only concern is I do not understand why it is that our government and the media find it necessary to break down our society by race, age and gender. We are all human beings, nothing more and nothing less, and we should treat each other as such. It is a shame that there still exisit some in our society that live in the stone age when it comes to race, age and gender. Those people are the ones that should be singled out in our society. Those are the ones that should be treated differently. This is 2008, wake up people, stop living the thoughts or your parents, grandparents and great grand parents.

Elsie Sirleaf   July 24th, 2008 10:32 am ET

Yes conditions have greatly improved for African Americans but for them to enjoy a slice of the cake, they will have to take advantage of the opportunities that are put in place to help improve the lives of poor people. As an example, Washington, DC residents can attend the University of the District of Columbia for only $7,000 a year.

Africans who migrate here are taking advantage of these educational opportunities and enrolling in colleges all across the country some even work and pay for their schooling under very difficult living conditions.

African Americans that I have encountered blamed every one else for their lack of success and believe that others are taking from them what is righfully theirs. I am from Africa now an American citizen and I am in school. Education is the way to success especially if you are from a poor family. No snitching please!!!!! Thanks.

Shotta Nic   July 24th, 2008 10:31 am ET

Sorry Ming, you have an idealistic view of the US.

The systemic and social prejudice that African Americans have to overcome make success that much harder to achieve. You also have to consider the effects of slavery and racism. Just because slavery is over, it does not mean there are not huge circular disadvantages that the African American community has to deal with as a result. Just watch CNN's Black in America to get a better understanding of what I am referring to.

SAN   July 24th, 2008 10:30 am ET

Ming you have a totally different experience and history as an Asian. Although I do agree with you, African Americans have another 40 or so years to undo severe damage from the system of slavery. Read a bit about it. I have a Ph.D. and make 30,000+ less than folks whho are less qualified than I.

I am amazed that African Americans have come THIS far given social, econcomic, political and educational barriers over the years. Keep on moving!

BTW—Thank you fellow Americans for your support of Obama. I have a different view of my country. To watch this and be a part of historical change is incredible.

A nightingale Sings in Berkley Square   July 24th, 2008 10:29 am ET

Hey I visited the Berlin Wall when it was dangerous and the press didn't cover my trip.

The press is sick covering a US Senator who has spent less than 123 work days in the senate and will be given a pension that kings could covet.

Amazing the amount of sick people (mentally) Obama doesn't deserve the honor, hasn't accomplished anything to win the honor and has no experience except talking. I like Denzel better and he speaks better.

Isn't it funny that most of Ossama's supporters are uneducated and illiterate. But that is sad as well. Someone should teach them the difference between lose and loose. And the "60 year old white woman" should add descriptive phrase behind her name as "white trash."

Vote Hillary she is the true leader. Experience, conjones and dependablilty

Marine   July 24th, 2008 10:28 am ET

Ming Ho has said it all. You have to work for it not wait for a hand out.

Maggie   July 24th, 2008 10:26 am ET

I am a black woman and I am disappointed in my people as they have excuses as to why their children do not graduate from high school. We like to give the excuses that we are poor and society is not giving us what we want. Well, like all other races, we should be working for what we want and stop looking for handouts. We have to educate our children the importance of getting a good education and stop putting our importance on buying designer name clothes and shoes, the bling bling etc and put the money towards our children's education. We, as a poeple, tend to think thats its how we look is more important than what we know and that is all wrong.

We have to stop our daughters from getting pregant with every boyfriend they go out with and teach them responsibility of finsihing school and getting a good job. We parents have to also practice what we preach because so many of us black women have children without getting married and also have them for different fathers who do not support them. The women then have to go on welfare and the children grow up doing exactly what their mother did. It's time to change that and become more independant and show the world that we are responsible people. Let's stop complaining about the system and expecting the handouts and go out there and become a strong, resposible citizens.

Joe Reg   July 24th, 2008 10:23 am ET

The situation of African-Americans have improved thus far, however, much still needs to be done to break the circle of inequality we inherited from decades of servitude.

We have come a long way!

Charles from Pocono's PA.   July 24th, 2008 10:17 am ET

From 1965 till today I believe the state of every person in this nation has improved more than anyone could have imagend. To those who have taken advantage from education to job training and a strong will to make thier lives better for themselves and thier offspring will agree that there is no excuse for failure. If anyone see's themselves as victom's or that the system is against them then they will not only fail but they will never make it in life. We all must take hold of all our own thouhgt's and strive as hard as we can and not listen to those who say you have one or two or even three strikes against you.I hope all people will listen to thier inner voice that say's to them I will myself to be great and accomplish gtreat thing's for me and my offspring.

Jenny   July 24th, 2008 10:09 am ET

I am African American and I do well in US. If you work hard, race will ALWAYS MATTER.

Jay Z   July 24th, 2008 10:05 am ET

Still can't deny that other ethnicities such as black, hispanic, asian, etc have to work harder on average to achieve the same things as whites though through hard work, anything can be achieved.

ChrisD   July 24th, 2008 10:04 am ET

Is it the year of the blacks? Everything on this site is black this black that. We have a guy who is half black and unqualified running for President, big deal. Get over it. African Americans will get what they deserve if they work for it just like everyone else.

Melissa   July 24th, 2008 9:58 am ET

Ming Ho, it has nothing to do with working hard. I know scores of people of all hues that work hard. It is the criminal justice system. How many black males have spent 10, 15, 20 plus years in jail for crimes they did not committ? Do you know any Asians this has happened too?

ARB   July 24th, 2008 9:57 am ET

Blacks don't have it any worse in this country than any other race.

Independent Voter   July 24th, 2008 9:56 am ET

Four years of "Victims" programming is enough for me to vote Republican.

Close to 150 years later, no one walking the streets in 2008 had anything to do with slavery, etc.

These are cheap tv shows to make - the "stars" all volunteers and no set. Cheap production, old news, and CNN makes millions on the advertising.

If people want to change their image, the easy way to do it is to change their behavior.

INDEPENDENT NOW   July 24th, 2008 9:55 am ET

DUUUUUH!!!!! BLACK DEM NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT OF THE US. BLACK SEC OF STATE, DEFENSE NEED I SAY MORE. BLACKS HAVE IN SOME CASES MORE OPPORTUNITY THAN WHITES WITH QUOTAS AND AFFIRMITIVE ACTION. ANYONE WHO ISNT SUCCEEDING ISNT TRYING. NO MORE EXCUSES THE PLAYING FIELD HAS LEVELED.

carolflowery   July 24th, 2008 9:55 am ET

I'll second what Ming Ho said

TEXAN   July 24th, 2008 9:55 am ET

Soledad did a fantistic job ! It broke my heart. I pray that the Lord will bless and help all those in need. We are all Americans and we need to be able to take care of ourselves,our families and live good lives. This division between black and white has got to stop !!!!!!

A nightingale Sings in Berkley Square   July 24th, 2008 9:52 am ET

Right on CNN but why not go to Alabama and Georgia and do a poll to see if your results remain the same.

The main stream media sucks

Arielle   July 24th, 2008 9:52 am ET

If you are black there are some unspoken and invisible walls to climb over, and if you are white there are unspoken privledges and invisible doors that open. Race is complex, if working hard was all it took then all black people would be well off, we all work hard!

Barbara   July 24th, 2008 9:51 am ET

Ming Ho July 24th, 2008 6:17 am ET

I am asian and I do well in US. If you work hard, race does not matter.
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Hmm, You can thank your success to the African Americans who were here fighting for racial equalities so that you and your families can have a better life in America. You may think race dosent matter but that fact is that if Afican Americans didnt fight for justice here you would be singing a different tune.

P.Od,Whitey   July 24th, 2008 9:50 am ET

You wouldn't think so by their continued whining. One might think it's still 1861. Grow up!

57 States   July 24th, 2008 9:49 am ET

To Ming Ho
You hit dead center…..The key word "hard work" not relying on free hand outs from the government though that is the democratic way. Take the hand outs and still not better yourself

Robert   July 24th, 2008 9:47 am ET

Ming, race shouldnt matter but to the ignorant and uninformed it does and unfortunately, that totals in the millions.

As Americans we have to be complete idiots to believe that a person's worth is based on the color of their skin.

Im glad God doesnt discriminate for those of us seeking to go to heaven.

TJ Johnson   July 24th, 2008 9:46 am ET

With all the unique laws on the books favoring non-whites, there's no reason for anyone, man or woman, not to succeed in this country.

Bella   July 24th, 2008 9:43 am ET

duh…lets see, you've had two african american secretary of states, one supreme court justice and one dem nominee running for president. Have you seen one native american or asian american or hispanic american in these high positions. Give me a break! this is a diverse country and there are a variety of other minoriy groups that exists…..this whole black in america topic has been completely overplayed on CNN….as though, none of us other minority groups perspectives are deserving of a spot light. Give it a rest…..I need not know how african american shop, eat, sleep or use the restroom. But perhaps I like to know how the native americans are doing? or how the asian americans are tackling racism…is there any for them? For the love of god……this is not just a black - white country! OH and btw, it would be nice also to throw the caucasian american a bone sometimes and maybe talk about their perspectives also…..I see a lot of white folks homeless and struggling you know!!!! sign, dissapointed viewer.

young voter   July 24th, 2008 9:43 am ET

black men have it worse than black women?!?!?!…….i guess it makes sense….black women are tired of their men holding them back with their militant Jesse Jackson ideals….black women have smartly abandoned this in favor of education and family…..black men ( a majority of but not all ) are leaving their women to raise their kids, turning on any black man who educates himself while calling him an "Uncle Tom" or "Oreo"……if "acting white" made one of their own rise to the highest seat in our country, how can black men possibly think that is a bad thing or think they have it worse since 1968??

Debby   July 24th, 2008 9:43 am ET

I agree with Ming Ho if you work hard race or nationality doesn't matter to do well.

DJ in TX   July 24th, 2008 9:43 am ET

I believe things have improved, but I can see why the disparity. Overt discrimination is defintely down from previous times. It tends to be more subtle now. African Americans will still feel and see that, where as whites may not.

From the outside everything looks OK, but on the inside, it is not. If you are on the outside, can't see anything or experience it, then you tend to think things are OK. But for those on the inside and still feel the discrimination, you know the real story. And now it is more difficult to prove.

Things are better, that's for sure, but we still have a ways to go. Unfortunately, it is going to take some time.

Jerry   July 24th, 2008 9:38 am ET

I feel this country is still divided because we need to invest in urban area with jobs, education, better housing. I feel the police are the racist people in American they are killing African American on a rapid speed, look what happen to Kathryn Johnson Atlanta, Michael Bell New York with killing of innocent American citizen was kill by police officer African American will never forget these killing.

Don Morris   July 24th, 2008 9:35 am ET

I am Asian/Native American/Anglo (I'm an American). In America, if you do the right things, you will succeed. Everyone has the opportunity to blame their own failures on someone else, but only those who take responsibility for themselves and their families (children) can expect success. I will see myself as being successful only after I have raised my children to become successful, contributing adults. My family and I came from humble roots, but we have risen because of the greatness of America and the opportunity that it affords everyone, regardless our race or ethnic background.

Robert Buce   July 24th, 2008 9:35 am ET

People all over the world are trying to come here. The one's who get here with no money , family or friends can't even speak english, but they work hard and save money and do very well. Yet we have african Americans that were born here cant make it here.

Open Your 3rd Eye   July 24th, 2008 9:34 am ET

It has nothing to do with working hard. It has to do with our environment and the people surrounding us. If we are not given direction or hope when we are children, then there will be catastrophic results as adults.

Christie of PhIlly   July 24th, 2008 9:33 am ET

To Ming Ho:

No disrespect to you, the Asian population or your comments. But, I must inform you that your comment "if you hard work hard, race does not matter" sounds like something from fantasy land. I am African-American and know from personal experience too, that race does matter. I do work hard, but the problem is African-Americans are always expected to work harder than everyone else and receive less pay for their efforts, they are viewed more suspiciously than any other race, if we speak out against injustice, many want to try to say we playing the "race card" or race bating. Until you've walked a mile in our shoes, you can only speak for the Asian-American community, not the African-American community.

therealist   July 24th, 2008 9:33 am ET

Have conditions improved for African-Americans?

Not according to the teachings of their political and religious leaders…

Kyu Reisch, Radcliff, Kentucky   July 24th, 2008 9:31 am ET

I am Asian American since 1986. Ming Ho, you got the point. My America life is very comfortable because I don't like to break the law and I thank America and their humanism. African Americans who want people's respect, should think about themselves first, how is your manner, language and actions. You want people's respect, then you should respect others first. Don't act like Americans owed you. Those experiences are from my America life through 23 years..

JC   July 24th, 2008 9:30 am ET

To say anything on this issue labels one a racist. But what to heck.

Yes, conditions have improved, the opportunites are there for anyone that wishes to improve their lot in life through education and hard work. The biggest stumbling block today is in attitudes, no one is owed anything, if you want an education, then go and get yourself an education, if you don't, it your choice, what occurred in the past is history, look to the future.

As to media treatment of African Americans, I feel the media reports the news. Now a group can create news that is up beat and positive or it can create negative news that is down beat. If you don't like the coverage, change what is there to cover.

Obama is a first generation from Africa, he seems to have done quit well for himself, being raised in a one parent home does not appear to have limited him. He is educated, well spoken and looks to the future.

simon   July 24th, 2008 9:29 am ET

The word IMPROVE does not exist in the language of BLACK Africa.

Blacks do not have the ability to CONCEDE.
It is all about SURVIVAL. Improving is out of the equation.

For example:
Obama does not like the Surge of troops in Iraq.
The surge is IMPROVING the situation there.

Obama wants to SURVIVE, so he will provide a Surge in Afghanistan.
Even though he believes that the Surge will not work.

Obama lacks the extra mile.
No fault of his own.

Obama is Black and as a Black he is lacking in some
FACULTIES.

Period.

Shae - Dallas, TX   July 24th, 2008 9:27 am ET

Only 35% of black men believe that conditons have improved for them because black men refuse to educate themselves or take responsibility for their own actions. 65% of black women believe that conditions have improved because black women are doint the opposite . . . that is educating themselves and being independent.

Lawrence   July 24th, 2008 9:27 am ET

Nobody understands the African American's attitude. The Tuskeegee experiment JUST ended in 1972. We cannot forget this. Is anyone appaulled that every 2 to 3 months, some black male is released from prison after 20 to 30 years served for a crime he's been cleared of? Is anyone upset that every 2 to 3 mos, a black male is shot or tasered to death by police? I am a law bitting citizen and I do not condone lawlessnesss. We have to show that there are other options and the sense of hopelessness will start to decrease.

Craig   July 24th, 2008 9:27 am ET

Conditions have improved for blacks. That is a no brainer. With all do respect my friend race does matter. America has come along way since the sixties and Jim Crow.

As a black male in America that is not a criminal and in no way afiliated with any criminal element what so ever, but I have to deal with stereo-types simply because of my race. That matters, no matter how hard you work.

I have friends of all races and creeds, whites, asians, etc, and we joke about the preception of black people all the time. Some even say that "you are the whitest black guy I know" eluding to the fact that I do not fit what is seen as black in America.

I have great respect for the Asian community because of t he high standards of education and personal conduct, But, race does matter. The trick is not to let it stop you from succeeding.

S.B. Stein E.B. NJ   July 24th, 2008 9:26 am ET

There are some places where no matter how hard you work, you can't get ahead. I would like to think that if you work hard and do well, you'll get ahead. There are some places where education is looked down on and the only way out is seen through being a sports player or rap star.

BlkWmnChicago   July 24th, 2008 9:26 am ET

The progress of black women and girls has become evident in schools, career, travel, finance and other choices in life. As black women we probably spend less time blaming others for our history and are doing more to make the future better.

When it comes to finding a mate we need to and will have to be more open to other races. This is not in any way a put down to black men but when finding a long term partner/mate there has to be substance to grow from and both have to bring that to the relationship.

Black in America has been an excellent series. Being Black in American is an excellent experience for me and I wouldn't want it any other way.

Barrack Obama   July 24th, 2008 9:24 am ET

When is it that all this media attention about Blacks and Whites what about the Asian, Latinos and the rest of the American People. Stop the hate Blacks were NOT the only people suffering!!!!! i get sick and tire about all the Blacks wanting all the attention. The United States of America also consist Latinos, and a bunch of Minorities!!! Stop the Hate!!!

Liz   July 24th, 2008 9:23 am ET

In regards to Ming Ho's comment, I must respond that the "American Dream" is not as easy as "work hard" and you will "do well." Asian American's are viewed differently by the general population of Americans than black people are. I am not belittling your accomplishments, but your blanket statement that black people need only work hard to be successful is not realistic in a country whose roots brought Africans by boat as slaves, and after emancipation, have been trying to progress in this country among a deep and binding racism that was formed from this history. Yes, there is progress, but not enough to warrant your comment. I hope that some day "race will not matter."

bernard, macon, ga.   July 24th, 2008 9:22 am ET

Only someone who has never had to deal with racism could say it does not matter. There are lots of Blacks who work hard and it still matters. We have come along way as a nation but in 2008, there is still more to be done. There are still high schools here in Georgia that have seperate black and white proms. There are still places here in Georgia where black men are still called "boy" and "colored". We as a nation can't stop all racism because everyone is an idividual and will have their own way off thinking, but we don't need to make them feel comfortable in thinking that way. Race does matter.
I enjoyed the CNN Special "Black In America and I look forward to the second part tonight. I hope that "White America" is watching so that through knowledge, we can close the racial gaps that keep us divided and ultimately afraid of each other's diferences. No matter what, we are still one nation.

SMOQ   July 24th, 2008 9:22 am ET

for my asian friend, yo guys get laons so quick and fast, and i actually seeit a preferential treatment to even whites……. due to what sum may consider a positive stereotype, that your comment unfortunately does nto ring true in too many instances int he african american community
thanks though……

Independent 4 Hill   July 24th, 2008 9:22 am ET

NO, they've gotten worse. Improvement? Are you kidding? Let's see, Blacks couldn't vote or go potty freely or ride in the front of a bus - now they are free to do anything a white or asian or hispanic can do.

Nope - not gotten better.

Abby   July 24th, 2008 9:21 am ET

Poverty matters. Being born into poverty, black or white, you are not going to do as well as the guy in a nice neighborhoods going to nice school. There are schools in the inner cities today in America with no books, with doors missing on the bathrooms, where no one cares. If we learned anything from New Orleans and Hurricane Katrina, its that there’s unimaginable poverty in some corners this country and it needs to stop.

So Ming Ho, spare us the ‘I am Asian and I do well’ lecture and lets all try to figure out how this can stop. Thanks.

JP   July 24th, 2008 9:20 am ET

Ming Ho…Tell that to Obama. Have you read the blogs lately?

Lawrence   July 24th, 2008 9:19 am ET

The attitudes of old continue to prevail. I am 43, and I still get pulled over for no apparent reason. That's not complaining, it's the facts! I have given up thinking "other" people will ever understand, or "admit" they understand. They do know enough to know they don't want to be black! You know how the conversations (and jokes) go when there aren't any black folks in the room. Do you REALLY think applicants, get a fair shake and or evaluation facing these attitudes? Everyone needs someone to give them an opportunity. There are very few people/companies, looking to give young african american kids internships, training, or apprenticeships etc. We all know they usually come from schools which are not on par with other schools and we don't see people in positions that can make a difference, doing so…..

Tony Z- MD   July 24th, 2008 9:18 am ET

What is really lingering is the affect of race on America. African-Americans have been under acknowledged in the credit for building this country, but recieve all the credit for the destruction of the inner cities.

In many ways, we (America) have created the self fulfilling prophecy of African Americans. If we look at our views that are drilled down over and over. Majority of our local newscast will start with crimes from a minority group, but if their is a child missing (he/she is 90+% white). What does that say to our values?

It is time for America to look at itself to solve the problem.

Xavier, Saint Louis, MO   July 24th, 2008 9:17 am ET

Yes conditions have improved a bunch; however, we still are not there yet. We still have some ways to go.

TMiller   July 24th, 2008 9:15 am ET

Please do not confuse "equal opportunity" with equality of outcome. The opportunities are there, what each individual chooses to do with those opportunities is up to them. How many of the people that said things are worse have done everything they can to be prepared to take advantage of an opportunity when it arises, or gone the extra mile to separate themselves from the crowd to be successful? The fact is that opportunity usually comes disguised as hard work!

Lioness   July 24th, 2008 9:13 am ET

Ming Ho, I'm inclined to agree with you, with one exception- you or your ancestors were never brought here forcefully. You cannot compare your experiences to one of a race that, in this country, has had to deal with 200+ of systematic racism. Unfortunately for African-Americans, race continues to matter, no matter how hard you work. Many people do not think this is true, but most of those people are not Black. But I agree- Black people need to look past injustices and fight back by working hard.

Christopher Ivory   July 24th, 2008 9:13 am ET

Another example:

Look at Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUS). I chose Ohio State because I knew to be taken as an elite competitor I would need to go to an institution that is home to various students, opposed to being the "best black student" at an HBCU. Following intergration, white schools recruited the most talented black students, thus removing them from what were once the most prestigious institutions in the country (HBCUs). Today black schools are not properly accredited and frowned upon by the majority, yet are great for black students who are taught by black educators who care about them and most importantly understand them (as was the case prior to desegration). Conditions are no better.

Stacy   July 24th, 2008 9:12 am ET

If these poll results are true, then black people in America will never be satisfied with their progress. I’ve served on several employment search committee’s at my place of employment and on numerous occasions, our committees had to pick the less qualified candidate because the position was underutilized.

My husband, with an MBA, and 10 years experience was past over for a promotion….only to find out from a friend in HR that they needed to hire a minority for the position. Come to find out…the minority (black) only had a BA and 1 year experience. I know for a fact that my employer almost always hires minorities (more than not blacks) before whites.

I will say…now when I hear about someone getting a promotion or a position just being “created” (and then filed with a black person), I immediately don’t think about the person’s qualifications…I think that the person got the job because they’re black.

I have two sons that I worry won’t get a fair chance at success just because they’re white. Maybe people need to realize that we’re only hurting our society when we put people in positions just because of color. Ever heard of the “peter principle”.

California Gold   July 24th, 2008 9:11 am ET

Some conditions have improved, but the goal posts are still far away. Without the media exposing injustice and inequalities we would probably not be as far along as we are.

IT'S CALL RESPECT   July 24th, 2008 9:10 am ET

Try trading places with an African American, but back in time
80 plus years and you will have you answer.

Christopher Ivory   July 24th, 2008 9:10 am ET

And Ming you can believe that all you want but that is not reality. The average asian household salary is $10,000 more than that of white families, and $20,000 than that of blacks (2006 Global Lead). I think there is a reason for that, and some history too. Read a REAL black history book/story, beyond that jaded view of the American education system and you may think differently.

IT'S CALL RESPECT   July 24th, 2008 9:10 am ET

Try trading places with an African American, but back in time
80 plus years and you will have your answer.

ProudToBeDemocrat   July 24th, 2008 9:10 am ET

Ming Ho do you still eat lice too I mean Rice . How do you work hard if you do not find a job that you are qualified in the first place. White people with the same or less experience and knowledge climb the coaperate ladder faster than any minnority. A Black man in US has to be twice as good than a white to compete, this is the fact of life for black Americans in USA anybody who denies this either he/she is white or brain washed by white.

Ryan   July 24th, 2008 9:09 am ET

When my buddies daughter was denied admission to UNC with a 3.5 GPA and her girlfriend (who is black) was accepted with a 2.9, I got the picture loud and clear. Did she cry victim? racial inequlity? No, she went to UNC Wilmington and graduated with honors. Her friend? Dropped out in her Freshman year to have her baby.

NC Attorney   July 24th, 2008 9:09 am ET

Ming,

Unfortunately race does matter, even in this day and age. African-Americans have to work twice as hard to compete with their white counterparts. I am African-American and I do very well, however, I still understand that the playing field is not equal. This is not an excuse, nor is it a cop-out. It is just an understanding of reality. I am glad that you have done well, but you cannot discount those who are constantly held back because of the color of their skin. Somehow, it seems easier for people to accept that women are held back because of gender than it is to accept that race is still a factor for many people. However, what is important is the way that African-Americans deal with this challenge. For most, it makes them work harder, for some it is very discouraging.

J.S.   July 24th, 2008 9:08 am ET

Race or color does not matter in the United States. Your attitude and your outlook on life determine a lot of how you will live. The pursuit of happiness does not mean people owe you…and people need to quit living in the past. Americans today had nothing to do with what happened years ago whether you be African American, Native American Indian, or any other descent.

dave   July 24th, 2008 9:08 am ET

How can you say conditions have not improved for blacks since 1968? That is the most asinine thing i have read in a long time.

SBAMA   July 24th, 2008 9:08 am ET

Ming Ho, I could not agree more. A black man running for Pres. shows if you put you mind to it, anybody can do anything. You can not just expect hand outs.

Marguerite, NYC   July 24th, 2008 9:07 am ET

Ming Ho, you have no idea what you're talking about. Race unfortunately does matter at least as far as African Americans are concerned. I agree that hard work helps, but it's so much more than that.

Ming Hollier than thou   July 24th, 2008 9:07 am ET

When your skin is darker, you have more problems. So, those of you with ligther skin, don't even get a taste of what others with darker skin get. This sometimes holds true regardless of race. The perception is that Light is right and black should get back!

Mccain Lies!   July 24th, 2008 9:06 am ET

Unless you are black you cannot speak on black issues regarding how they are treated. It amazes me to hear white people say that black people are not discriminated against. How can you form your lips to say that unless you have walked a mile in their shoes and skin? (BTW I am white)

Gary   July 24th, 2008 9:05 am ET

Ming, although I admire your thoughts, you are obviously looking at this issue from only one perspective.

John   July 24th, 2008 9:04 am ET

Too bad we live in a world where we have to ask such questions.

tydesigns   July 24th, 2008 9:03 am ET

I'm a black male service member and know that things are not always better for everyone. It depends on your surroundings. It takes good infrastructure as well as hard work.

Aika   July 24th, 2008 9:03 am ET

STOP WHINING! I saw about an hour of the Black in America show last night and it only reinforced my frustration with the black community in this country. Stop whining and do something about it. If you don't have a college education, you can't get a good job in the US whether you're black, white or any other shade in between. Get over it. I'm Asian, my parents were poor, I worked my butt off and now I'm in medical school; if you give up and drop out of highschool, you don't get anywhere–period. Nothing to do with race.