August 3rd, 2008
03:30 PM ET
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Obama calls for giving 'full vote' to Michigan, Florida delegates

Sen. Barack Obama said Sunday that Michigan and Florida delegates should get a full vote.
Sen. Barack Obama said Sunday that Michigan and Florida delegates should get a full vote.

(CNN) - Sen. Barack Obama said Sunday that the delegates from Florida and Michigan should get a “full vote” at the Democratic convention this month.

“I believe party unity calls for the delegates from Florida and Michigan to be able to participate fully alongside the delegates from the other states and territories,” he said in a letter to the co-chairs of the Democratic National Convention’s Credentials Committee.

Obama asked the committee to pass a resolution when it meets on August 24 to give each delegate a full vote.

Florida and Michigan were stripped of their delegates as a penalty for holding their primaries too early. During the primary season, there were growing calls to seat the delegations as Obama and Sen. Hillary Clinton were locked in a tight race for their party’s nomination. Obama and Clinton were about 100 delegates apart in March, and Florida and Michigan's cache of 366 delegates had the potential to shake up the race.

The battle over the states’ delegates became a key issue on the campaign trail. Clinton had long advocated for seating both states’ delegations. She won both primaries, but the Democratic candidates had agreed to not campaign in the two states and she was the only top-tier candidate on the ballot in Michigan.

Clinton’s message that “every vote should count” became a key theme in her stump speeches. She accused Obama of being "un-American" for not backing plans to hold a revote in the two states.

The Illinois senator denied claims that he was standing in the way of revotes.

"I want the Michigan delegation and the Florida delegation to be seated. And however the Democratic National Committee determines we can get that done, I'm happy to abide by those rules," he told CNN in March.

After months of wrangling over what to do, the DNC’s rules and bylaws committee voted in late May to reinstate all of Florida and Michigan's delegates, with each getting a half-vote.

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  1. Jim, Burlington NC

    Wouldn't it be funny if they did have full votes, and both Obama and Clinton fail to get a nominating majority on the first roll call, and on the Second roll call a delegate puts forth Al Gores name – and he wins...

    August 3, 2008 06:21 pm at 6:21 pm |
  2. ChrisD

    This guy is a fake.

    August 3, 2008 06:22 pm at 6:22 pm |
  3. What a nice liar Obama is

    Said the joker to the fools.

    August 3, 2008 06:22 pm at 6:22 pm |
  4. Debra in Florida

    ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!??? This is totally laughable!

    I would like to encourage Hillary supporter everywhere to just write her name in on November 4th!

    Yes we can????? sure we can but "should we"? Obama is a scammer, liar, hippocrite, and a huge flip flopper!!!

    August 3, 2008 06:22 pm at 6:22 pm |
  5. Still for Hill but now ONLY for Hill

    There must be some way outta here....

    August 3, 2008 06:22 pm at 6:22 pm |
  6. Clinton Democrat

    Man, I smell some bad BO. When will people learn that talk is no substitute for action? Hillary presented her experience and the things she's accomplished. But people were blinded by oratorical skill. Hillary still has a chance to be the nominee. He only has the magic number by super delegates. If and when she's on the ballot at the convention, she will get the votes to be nominee. Especially if Obama's request is granted for full votes for Florida and Michigan.

    August 3, 2008 06:25 pm at 6:25 pm |
  7. Mary

    What??? If Obama wanted MI and FL to have full votes, then he should have made that decision last March, and Hillary would have been the nominee. He hired an attorney to block that from happening when he said "rules matter" because he did not want to lose the Dem's nomination. Now that he needs those votes, he wants to patronize those voters in the hopes they will vote for him instead of McCain.

    Obama is a two-faced loser. He will say anything to try to get elected. Between all his flip-flops on policy and pandering to voters, I don't know who the REAL Obama is. I hope the MI and FL voters have long memories and see this arrogant, self-serving, presumptive egotist as the slimy politician he really is.

    I was a Hillary supporter that was willing to give Obama a chance. Between this article and the news yesterday of Obama changing his mind on oil drilling, it's become a daily dose of flip-flopping that I can't bear to watch. Come November, Obama's policies will be the same as McCain's. I might as well vote for McCain...for all his faults, I find him to have more integredy than Obama.

    I think Rev. Wright knew the REAL Obama all along.........

    August 3, 2008 06:25 pm at 6:25 pm |
  8. Texas for Obama

    Why do Clinton supporters feel like she would be the candidate with nothing wrong? The fact is Obama is the nominee. He won the most states, delegates, and votes. The people have spoken and you need to respect that. I would have fully supported Clinton if she had won. She would have been criticized harshly for many things.

    Get over yourself. You can't either vote for McCain out of spite, let this country fail even more, or vote for real change.

    August 3, 2008 06:25 pm at 6:25 pm |
  9. duriya

    Hillary supporters give it up. Either you unite with the party or we have four more years of George Bush. Get over your anger. If you are for Hillary then I think it is time to follow her advice and see how hard she is campaigning for Obama. let your heart don't lead your brain. Instead let your brain lead you in your decision making.

    August 3, 2008 06:25 pm at 6:25 pm |
  10. Sam

    I guess he has been getting advice from John Kerry on flip-flopping

    August 3, 2008 06:26 pm at 6:26 pm |
  11. voter

    To all of the bloggers being outraged, there are several points to be made. First, Hillary would not have won the nomination if MI and Fl were resolved in March. She agreed to not let these states have their delegates. She signed the letter agreeing to the rules and Harold Ickes voted to strip the delegates of MI and Fl. Hillary decided to change the rules in the middle of the game which is called cheating as Donna Brazille stated. Second, Hillary may have spoken to Obama and told him to request the delegates of Fl and MI to seat as part of the agreement after the primary. Third, this was reported months ago in the blogs. Why is it getting airplay now three weeks before the conversation. I know, because the media and McCain want to divide the dems. Calm down. Geez. Stop complaining about the primary. Obama is better than McCain.

    August 3, 2008 06:27 pm at 6:27 pm |
  12. Texas for Obama

    Florida and Michigan broke the rules. Their delegates should not get a vote or even a half-vote. This was decided before any of the primaries.

    August 3, 2008 06:27 pm at 6:27 pm |
  13. Sue/PA

    The Obvious Choice,

    You are the only one that got it right on here. O did play by the rules. Clinton just used MI and FL as a tool.

    I believe it is his way of letting his supporters know that he is secure in the nomination. Clinton, PUMA nor the Hillraisers can stop, or override, his nomination for POTUS. Call this an "olive branch" to solidify the unity of the party.

    Obama 08/12

    August 3, 2008 06:28 pm at 6:28 pm |
  14. randy

    People are starting to relize that this community organizer is a dirt ball. This is so childish I cant believe what I am reading. Former Hillary supporter voting for MCane. I am ashamed of my party and the leadership. Thanks Nancy, Harry Reed, and Obama.

    August 3, 2008 06:30 pm at 6:30 pm |
  15. REMEMBER!!!!

    To- Hitler youth for Obama ** I guess that means cheat, lie and steal.
    **and Dodge Snipper Fire**RUN HRC!!!

    August 3, 2008 06:30 pm at 6:30 pm |
  16. FL Democrat

    Screw you Obama. You and your phony supporters can kiss my butt. I will be voting for McCain this election. With any common decency, the Dems will wake up and elect Hillary Clinton in 2012.

    Obama Never!

    August 3, 2008 06:30 pm at 6:30 pm |
  17. Janet

    What a joke both Obama and McCain are. Is this the best we can do for our country? Our best candidate was forced from this nomination by Obama's stance a few months ago. Hillary Clinton should be the nominee. It cost her the nomination and it's going to cost this nation BIG TIME when either Obama or McCain is sworn in as president. We should be hailing Madame President.

    August 3, 2008 06:33 pm at 6:33 pm |
  18. ES NYC

    You people are pathetic !

    He did not make the rules then, and he does not make them now.
    Nothing has changed. Florida and Michigan Primaries did not count!
    However it would be stupid to not give full vote now, as they will not be exploited to favor one candidate or another, but only give them the possibility of fully participating.
    Bottom line is, if all you whiners said then that it should count, what is the problem? Oh, it doesn't advantage your candidate now so they should not have full vote..ah? I thought you wanted it to count in the name of principles, but now that it does not serve you anymore, who cares about those principles ah? Whiners!

    August 3, 2008 06:34 pm at 6:34 pm |
  19. Belle

    Senator Obama–
    "I will abide by the rules."
    "I will filibuster FISA"
    "I will end the war in Iraq"
    "Drilling for oil doesn't make any sense"
    "I am a symbol of hope"
    "Words matter"
    "I represent change"
    "I will threaten the ended of the NAFTA contract"

    Yup....change you can't trust.

    August 3, 2008 06:35 pm at 6:35 pm |
  20. Sn in MN

    The hypocrite has been working the refs in every election he's been in.

    August 3, 2008 06:36 pm at 6:36 pm |
  21. Enough of this imposter

    Obama has never been questioned on his positions or opinions or actions- when did the media ever question the way he hired lawyers to block a count and revote in both states? WHY did he block it if he believed that HE were the people's choice?

    When he flip flops- he just explains it away as a clarification or refinement. He admonishes the media not to parse his words and looks down his nose while he explains it one more time so every idiot can understand. When did the media allow HRC that consideration?

    Bitter and guns and God- NEVER the issue. The "antipathy for other people" THAT was the issue- and it never was mentioned by Obama's infatuated and awed media. They accepted his lame: " I did not mean those were BAD things... just familiar traditions". So when does he believe turning to antipathy for others is a GOOD thing? When using hate and division to steal an election.

    So now Obama believes he can SAY or DO anything- no matter how contradictory and no matter how posturing- and it will be made to look noble by his adoring Media.

    The media has always been part of the Obama campaign- 3 pundits FOR Obama shouting down one HRC supporter.

    August 3, 2008 06:38 pm at 6:38 pm |
  22. Bruce

    I am OUTRAGED at this arrogant, two-faced, PHONY!!! After TORTURING Hillary and STEALING those states from her he now has the AUDACITY to want them included! I despise this FAKE savior's attempts to call for party unity. Obama will NEVER EVER get my vote or support – NOR will the democratic party after all of this! McCAIN – THE ONLY CHOICE in 08!!!

    August 3, 2008 06:39 pm at 6:39 pm |
  23. Klaus H. Bricke

    The march of the Pied Piper – the annointed one in front – the concert goers close behind – where do they go ?

    August 3, 2008 06:39 pm at 6:39 pm |
  24. Jane

    Too little, too late. Now that he's slipping in the polls, he suddenly realizes his mistake. Obama will say and do anything to win. This is his new politics ? No thanks, I'll stick with the old politics. The devil you know is better than the devil you don't.

    August 3, 2008 06:39 pm at 6:39 pm |
  25. Independent Thinker

    It is funny to watch people here scream at Obama, and they really have no clue as to what they are talking about. It is hilarious. Especially the person who says that the people of Michigan and Florida will never forget what "he" did, like Obama conjured up this whole thing for his benefit.

    Florida and Michigan broke the rules. Period! Obama had nothing to do with that. So be quiet about that.

    Obama would have won the nomination had full votes been given to Michigan and Florida anyway. Period! So be quiet about that.

    Obama would have won the nomination had there been a re-vote in Florida and Michigan. Period! Clinton was not going to get 100% of the vote in each state. So be quiet about that.

    The *best* that would have happened is that Clinton wins the popular vote (partly because of the way caucuses work). And as you know if you win the popular vote, doesn't mean you win the nomination (err...turn back to 2000).

    This is purely a gesture by Obama to have all states have all votes - he said he would do this if he was the nominee, and that was back in February.

    So everyone get over themselves, do a little research, stop trolling and become an educated electorate. Please!

    August 3, 2008 06:41 pm at 6:41 pm |
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