August 22, 2008
Posted: August 22nd, 2008 09:59 PM ET

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Kaine will not be Obama's running mate, according to the AP.
Kaine will not be Obama's running mate, according to the AP.

Sources close to Governor Tim Kaine of Virginia says he has been informed he will not be Obama’s Vice President. One source tells CNN that Obama personally made the call to Governor Kaine. Another source tells CNN that Kaine left Richmond for Denver a few hours ago, and has now arrived in Denver for the convention.

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tammy   August 23rd, 2008 3:04 am ET

Those Obama people who say that Hill won't be pres in 2012, please understand that we won't have a dem president anytime soon. I don't like Obama, therefore, I won't vote for him. You hate Hill...don't vote for her. We just won't have a dem as a president in the White House no time soon. Bill was the best Dem president we've had anyway. We don't need the democrate equivalent of Bush/Cheney.

Democrates for McCain!!!

Patriot   August 23rd, 2008 2:45 am ET

Getting his own "tax credit" wrong: McCain was badly wrong in what he said about the child "tax credit." The current child tax credit is $1,000, and McCain is not proposing any increase at all. What McCain actually is proposing is a gradual increase in the $3,500 exemption for each dependent child, starting in 2010 and increasing $500 each year until it reaches $7,000 in 2016. On his Web site McCain describes this as a "doubling" of the exemption, but even that is misleading. According to the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, the exemption is expected to go up to $4,200 per child in that time period under current law, which calls for annual adjustments for inflation.

The distinction between a tax credit and a tax exemption is both basic and significant. A tax credit is a dollar-for-dollar reduction in the amount of tax owed. An exemption is much less valuable to taxpayers, as it merely reduces the amount of income subject to tax. An exemption is also more valuable to upper-income taxpayers, who fall into higher tax brackets, than to middle- and lower-income taxpayers.

Patriot   August 23rd, 2008 2:18 am ET

Scoring the Votes

He said that he had "a perfect voting record from organizations like the Veterans of Foreign Wars, the American Legion." But we called both of those groups, and they told us they don't even release congressional scorecards. In fact, the American Legion's constitution prohibits it.

The veteran in this exchange was also wrong in saying McCain doesn't have a perfect voting record with the VFW (since such a record doesn't even exist). However, he is correct in that McCain doesn’t have a perfect score with DAV (Disabled American Veterans), a group of 1.3 million disabled veterans that supports more funding for veterans health care. McCain has a 20 percent record of voting the way DAV would like him to in 2006. The group is nonpartisan, but its 100 percent rankings disproportionately go to Democrats: 207 Democrats in Congress and only 13 Republicans received scores of 100 percent in 2006. Senators were evaluated on five votes for amendments that would have increased funding for veterans’ health care.

CitizenS   August 23rd, 2008 2:12 am ET

DEMS…Kaine is a great govenor and has much of a future in the government but right now, he can't sell this ticket the way someone with foreign policy background. Biden will be a great choice! Get it together. Would you have had Obama run with Hillary and use the next 10 weeks explaining Bill's shortcomings on top of Hillary's own issues that you ALL seem to conveniently forget in the heat of the moment. This is about bringing our ECONOMY back, stopping 'foot in mouth' McCain from placing us in more foolish and warring situations. So, if you think HATE will save you from RUSSIA and CHINA, vote McCain by all means. But don't cut your nose off to spite your face, save yourself in spite of yourself! OBAMA YES WE CAN!

james   August 22nd, 2008 11:46 pm ET

I JUST HOPE IT'S NOT THAT EGO-CENTRIC, STEALING, WASHINGTON INSIDER BIDEN. HE WILL SINK OBAMA 08.

Viva Obama   August 22nd, 2008 11:19 pm ET

Barack Obama if you pick Hillary as VP we will not vote for you. She is the one who gave ammunitions to McForget-it-all to try to diminish you and Bill recently gave an ambiguous answer about your readiness to be commander in chief. No need to say : they don't like you and they never will no matter what.

CNN DON'T PUT ME IN THE AWAITING FOR EVER LIST PLEASE

Barbara - NC   August 22nd, 2008 11:17 pm ET

At least the MEN bow out gracefully and don't threaten like the Clinton PUMA party are trying to do. YOU CANNOT hold the OTHER 18 million hostage, people. WISE UP

Barbara - NC   August 22nd, 2008 11:16 pm ET

If you PUMA people can't remember – there are another 18 million that will get even if you all screw with our candidate.

2012 won't matter !!!!!!!!

common sense   August 22nd, 2008 11:14 pm ET

If Obama does not win, HRC can kiss 2012 good bye. We, Obama supporters will not forget.

Terrance   August 22nd, 2008 11:12 pm ET

This is all a big waste of time. There is no way Obama will ever be President.

ggamma   August 22nd, 2008 11:09 pm ET

I meant James Carville needs to stay away!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gail   August 22nd, 2008 11:06 pm ET

I have to wonder whether it really does the country any good to have all this incessant speculation about the VP. Would it kill us to wait until tomorrow morning? If the media had put this much effort into the non-existent Iraqi WMDs before the war, now *that* would have made a difference.

gbywms   August 22nd, 2008 11:04 pm ET

To all the Hillary supporters.

Listen to the news, Hillary is DEEPLY in debt, what you should is support her by donating money not your mouth full of hateful words.

Hillary is over the lost why can't you? You mean to tell me you wanted her to president more than she wanted it herself. Please give me a break

Think about it do something useful, get her out of debt. you will feel better about yourself

ggamma   August 22nd, 2008 11:03 pm ET

you are right!!! specially Mike Carville he needs to stay away and not saying anything becuase he is too much of Clinton and sound always about dream ticket. I don't like this guy, he needs to shut up!!!!!

Otis   August 22nd, 2008 10:52 pm ET

Here's a point....Obama is raising all this money, yet he only leads by 2% these days. 2% people.

I think there's a bigger issue here. Why can't Obama close the deal, even with his celebrity status?

Anyone out there wanna take this?

CM   August 22nd, 2008 10:52 pm ET

MG, what makes you think HRC will get the nod in 4 years? And will it make a difference at that time when we continue this downward spiral and debt to China? If Obama doesn't make it but then comes back and gets the nod again will you again let the Repubs win till its Clinton time?

Hoping for Clinton to come back is too risky. She can do the most help now running the senate with a Democratic president to back her up.

Jake   August 22nd, 2008 10:50 pm ET

I think it's hysterical that all these Hillary supporters think Hillary will even have a shot if McCain is elected. She'll be blamed for the loss and there's no way anyone would support her besides the hardcore Hillary supporters and that won't be enough to win an election.

It may suck but the best think for Hillary is for Obama to win, Hillary can wait 8 years and she'll be a shoe-in for the Democratic nomination and will have the full support of the party.

But hey it's your vote, if you want to cut off your nose to spite your face go ahead, but don't complain about it afterwards.

naygie   August 22nd, 2008 10:48 pm ET

TO CNN: YOU NEED NEW SOURCES!!! BEGALA AND CARVILLE ARE PUTTING CNN IN TUNE WITH FOX NEWS. Both men obviously Hillary brown keepers; you put them on the air and all they can do is spit pitty and dirt all at the same time. All that Hillary pumas nonsense sounds more like a planned talking point-Lets get it straight, them two or maybe four, wish for Obama to lose the candidacy. If they can't be fair and balanced, then hey should stay away from saying anything at all. Carville talked too much s*** during the primaries; primaries are over, lets stay focus on winning the nomination for presidency regardless of who's on the ticket!

anna   August 22nd, 2008 10:43 pm ET

Hillary is a winner choice with her following and her experience. But she is very polarizing and opinionated.
She has been very critical of Obamas experience.

Biden is a very good candidate with the foreign policy experience Obamas ticket needs, and relative popularity across party lines, but his mouth is a loose cannon.
He has been very critical of Obamas experience.

Both voted yes on Iraq intervention.
What is the difference?

Man vs. Woman
Man has no delegates.
Woman has half a Convention full.
WOMAN BETTER CHOICE!!!!

Matt   August 22nd, 2008 10:42 pm ET

Well two down, Bayh and Kaine no longer, I hope it will be Biden. Maybe Obama will throw and curve ball unexpected suprise and choose Al Gore. and judy in PA if Mcjoke offered hillary the vp spot she would soooo say no, why would she jump sides after such a hard long fought democratic campaign and endorse Obama??

Obama
Biden

lol   August 22nd, 2008 10:41 pm ET

This whole thing is such a sham. I suppose that all Obama's young and giddy schoolkid groupies are just loving it. What an immature thing to do; and you dems want him to make decisions for this country and the world? God spare us from him getting into the White House.

L.B.   August 22nd, 2008 10:37 pm ET

Glad you're handing this like an adult.

E.C.Coleman   August 22nd, 2008 10:36 pm ET

NObama isn't going to win anyway.......plus, the BIG FOOL blew off the most important person who could have put him in the White House. Nobama has shown his ignorance and inexperience in this campaign. He's not worth anything and his JUDGEMENT IS NON-EXISTENT! NOBAMA IS CETAINLY NOT PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL. SO WHO CARES ABOUT THE 2ND FOOL THE 1ST FOOL PICKS?

Ted   August 22nd, 2008 10:35 pm ET

NOOOOOOOOOOO!
Obama/NotHillary 08

Ridiculous   August 22nd, 2008 10:35 pm ET

Joshua- that is ridiculous. People like you are the reason this country is heading down the tubes (and for the record–Hillary Clinton was the "pre-ordained queen"). Texas- I care, and judging by your handle you must be quite proud of your state's presidential track record.

The rest of the world, not so much...

It's time for new politics, a government of the people, by the people...it's time for Barack H. Obama.

judy in PA   August 22nd, 2008 10:33 pm ET

I hope its Biden anyone but Billary, let her run as Mccains mate.
He can afford her debt and maybe a house or 2.

texdem   August 22nd, 2008 10:33 pm ET

Hey ttdog,

Why are you posting if you don't care???

Jan Illinois   August 22nd, 2008 10:33 pm ET

Obama do the right thing for this party and pick our lady so we can win and unite us all. Please!!

bob nj   August 22nd, 2008 10:31 pm ET

well, joshua, you have posted many times about you unwavering support of Hillary, now why do you think anyone cares?

michelle   August 22nd, 2008 10:30 pm ET

please don't say who care we need to care where this country is heading. we use to be the powerful country not anymore thank to bush. now it china we can not afford another bush 4th term with mccain. the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer.

ggamma   August 22nd, 2008 10:29 pm ET

Joe Biden will be a great VP for Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!experience on both national security and forign policy

MG   August 22nd, 2008 10:26 pm ET

I can think of so many reasons why I do not trust Obama to run this country. Don't see that any of the VP frontrunners change that. Let's all vote for McCain so Hillary can run in 4 yrs and take her place!

CAW in MD   August 22nd, 2008 10:25 pm ET

That's a shame - Kaine would have brought a lot of positives to the ticket, and kept the pressure on McCain in Virginia.

I guess Biden would be okay, but I'm still hoping for Richardson...

carl   August 22nd, 2008 10:25 pm ET

don't hate congratulate

joshua   August 22nd, 2008 10:22 pm ET

tHIS IS BIGGER THAN OBAMA AND HILLARY, THATS WHY I DONT CARE WHAT HILLARY SAYS OBAMA WAS SUCH A SCUMBAG TO HER AND THE MEDIA SUCKIN HIM OFF LIKE THAT WAS SO UNFAIR. IF HE DOESNT PICK HER HE LOST , I COULD GIVE 2 PITS FOR PARTY UNITY, YOU WANT UNITY THEN UNITE THEM BOTH.
I WILL VOTE MCAIN OR NADER JUST TO SCREW OBAMA LIKE HE DID CLINTON

Hayden   August 22nd, 2008 10:21 pm ET

Hillary 2012

Since Obama want to lose by not picking Hillary!

RB from NH   August 22nd, 2008 10:17 pm ET

Why would all you Clinton lovers want Hillary for VP?

What would be the point?

Obama President, Hillary Supreme Court Justice

jeanette   August 22nd, 2008 10:15 pm ET

CNN – please get rid of Begala and Carville from your show. They are huge supporters of the Clintons and nothing unbiased ever comes out of their mouths. Please, get people that are more objective and move away from all the Clinton speak.
Trust me, your ratings will go up.

Jerry   August 22nd, 2008 10:10 pm ET

Good. I can't believe he was even in the final tier. He brings nothing to the table, but VA...and that swing state is still not guaranteed with him on the ticket.

joshua   August 22nd, 2008 10:09 pm ET

tHIS IS BIGGER THAN OBAMA AND HILLARY, THATS WHY I DONT CARE WHAT HILLARY SAYS OBAMA WAS SUCH A SCUMBAG TO HER AND THE MEDIA SUCKIN HIM OFF LIKE THAT WAS SO UNFAIR. IF HE DOESNT PICK HER HE LOST , I COULD GIVE 2 PITS FOR PARTY UNITY, YOU WANT UNITY THEN UNITE THEM BOTH

jonny   August 22nd, 2008 10:08 pm ET

One House One Spouse Obama 08

Texas Trail Dog   August 22nd, 2008 10:07 pm ET

WHO CARES? Im not voting for Obama the obamination anyway.

AC   August 22nd, 2008 10:06 pm ET

The whole world is breathless (?) awaiting the announcement of the name of the unfortunate soul who will be tasked with bolstering the very weak candidacy of Barack Obama.

PoliticoMike   August 22nd, 2008 10:04 pm ET

Hey,
Has anyone activated the tracking device on Al Gore?? Hmmmm.

A.   August 22nd, 2008 10:01 pm ET

No disrespect to him at all, but thank goodness.

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