August 22, 2008
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Begala and Carville said some Clinton backers will be angry.
Begala and Carville said some Clinton backers will be angry.

(CNN) — Two prominent Democrats close to Hillary Clinton expressed frustration Friday over a report Barack Obama’s campaign never formally vetted the New York senator for the vice presidential spot, and predicted the revelation could further rile some of her most fierce supporters just as the party is set to kick of its national convention in Denver.

Longtime Clinton loyalists Paul Begala and James Carville, who have endorsed Obama's White House bid, told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer Friday a Politico report claiming the Obama campaign did not officially consider Clinton for the coveted position would likely further anger some Democrats already wary of the Illinois senator. Both Carville and Begala are CNN contributors.

The matter is even made worse, Begala said, by the fact that Obama himself suggested to reporters earlier in the summer that he would consider Clinton, saying his one-time rival would be on "anybody's shortlist."

"There's two camps in Hillary land — there's the peacemakers and the PUMAs — Party Unity My Aunt Fannie," Begala said. "They're still not behind Obama. Some of them are stirring up a lot of trouble. I don't like it. I'm a peace maker. This story empowers the PUMA crowd because they see this, and I do too, as sort of disrespecting Senator Clinton and breaking Senator Obama's word.

"It's the one glitch in a beautiful process," Begala also said.

Carville, who along with Begala donated the maximum allowable amount to Obama's campaign immediately after Clinton exited the race, expressed particular frustration over reports Obama had not asked Clinton about her thoughts on who should fill the vice presidential slot on the ticket.

"I think we suffered a big blow today to the hard-liners," he said. "I don't think he's spoken to Senator Clinton about the vice presidency or even sought her counsel."

"We may be surprised if he picks her, but after that, it was pretty clear that not only were they not interested in had having her, they were not interested in her opinion," he added.

But former Clinton lawyer Greg Craig, who has supported Obama this election cycle, suggested Friday Clinton did not need to be formally vetted by the Obama campaign because of her lengthy stint in the public eye.

“I think that Senator Clinton is well known," he said. "Her service is well known. Her record is well known. And she herself said to the world that she's been vetted and ready to serve."

Meanwhile, appearing at the New York State Fair Friday, Clinton said she has never been interested in being Obama’s vice president.

I never said I [wanted the job],” she told reporters. “I have always said I will do whatever I can because I feel so strongly in making sure that we elect Senator Obama our next president.”

Filed under: Barack Obama • Hillary Clinton


Stu, KY   August 22nd, 2008 6:43 pm ET

One House
One Vote
One America

Obama 08

H   August 22nd, 2008 6:43 pm ET

Hillary Clinton has been vetted and she made her opinion known when she [and her campaign] hunkered down with her supporters in the basement of a NY High School on the last night of the Primary when EVERYONE except her supporters already knew Obama had won the Nomination……James and Paul need to 'get a grip'! Oh…and, in case there is some misunderstanding, Hillary's opinion is this: 'Her way or the Highway.' Period. End of discussion….please!

VW   August 22nd, 2008 6:43 pm ET

So now you all know who is OB and where he will lead this country to.

OB is nothing.

Donna   August 22nd, 2008 6:43 pm ET

You know..folks need to get over it…Obama does not OWE Clinton anything contrary to what her PUMA folks and supporters believe…this is HIS choice and should be done His way..no one elses!!!

Psbro   August 22nd, 2008 6:43 pm ET

Of course he never had any intention to consider Hillary. Why is the MSM so shocked? I'm glad she's not going to be on the ticket, she needs to be as far away from this train wreck as possible.

Barbara - NC   August 22nd, 2008 6:42 pm ET

Geeeezzzzz - this whole Dem. convention has to be about

me me me me me me me me Hillary waaaahhhhhhhh me me me me me

Will she be at the inauguration whining too? Or will it just be the media whining?

Get over it people. mmmmmmmmeeeeeeee

flicktick   August 22nd, 2008 6:42 pm ET

How come you don't have a photo of Obama this time?
Are you slipping up?

The Canadian   August 22nd, 2008 6:42 pm ET

Hillary stated she never wanted the job and she was more focused on being in the Senate!

Do the PUMAs ever listen to what their Candidate ever says?

First they dont support her with money, now they dont even pay attention when she states she DOES NOT want to be VP!

What she DOES want is cash to pay her bills, about the PUMAs focus on that instead of attacking the future Prez

Joe Kiloz   August 22nd, 2008 6:42 pm ET

P R E S I D E N T———B U S H——R E A S S I G N I N G—-C O M B A T

T R O O P S—–T O —-D E N V E R—-R I G H T——A W A Y

Upon Further Review   August 22nd, 2008 6:42 pm ET

These two morons is why she lost. If she had stayed out their gutter politics she could have won.

Jane, IL   August 22nd, 2008 6:42 pm ET

I have 1 house and 1 vote. My vote will go to Barack Obama.

I love the protest that's going on in front of McCain's Arlington, Virginia home.

Obama 08

larry   August 22nd, 2008 6:42 pm ET

Why would Obama care about her opinion on the VP? Do they really think Hillary would have asked Obama about his opinion on her VP. Paul and Carville are a bunch of crybabies.

diane   August 22nd, 2008 6:41 pm ET

First of all–Yes–Wolf–it is getting Old–the non stop talk today-re VP for Obama—any minute–how about AMMA–you can guess the last 2 letters.

So–even Bill Maher on Larry King is upset with Obama's inconsistency and whole heartedly thinks that Clinton would be the best VP chocie to win in Nov. Even Karl Rove says that Clinton is the best choice.

So we will see. If Obama does not pick the one who received more popular vote than he did; then he will have himself to blame if he doesn't win in November. Let's see if he can put Party unity and November ahead of his Nuances and Recalibrated vanity. Post this CNN–you have not posted my thoughts in a long time–I have almost given up of even sending them as they are not in the tank for O.

Fred Atlanta GA   August 22nd, 2008 6:41 pm ET

Let those clinton backers that want to be angry BE ANGRY just move out the way for the real clinton backers that have WAY MORE SENSE!!
We will WIN without them TRUST ME!!!!!!!

OBAMA 08/12 YES WE CAN & YES WE WILL!!!!!

Tess   August 22nd, 2008 6:41 pm ET

While I really don't want to see Clinton as Obama's VP, the very idea of the unvetted Obama vetting Cli nton is as ludicrous as everything else he's done.

Steven,VA   August 22nd, 2008 6:41 pm ET

I have say that there many Hillary backers that are acting like Republicans! It is not about me, me, me! It is about us! So what if Sen. Clinton is not picked eventhough this is who I may have wanted. I am more worried about my electric bill, the price of gas, the price of food, and how this impacts my family. We have to get the republicans out of office as I am not in the top 5% and that party does not care about my family's Unite Democrats, Unite!

Sherry, Atlanta   August 22nd, 2008 6:41 pm ET

IT'S A REFRESHING CHANGE. . .TO HAVE CREATIVITY IN WASHINGTON. HILLARY REPRESENTS THE SAME OLE B/S, THAT'S BEEN IN OUR GOVT' YEAR AFTER YEAR. WITH THE STATE OF OUR ECONOMY, AMERICA WILL NOT ADVANCE, WITH THE STATUS QUO.

PLEASE DON'T BE OFFENDED, BUT AMERICAN'S NEED TO GET TO THE POINT OF "SEEING BEYOND THE NOSE ON THEIR FACE, OR, TUNNEL VISION".

Proud to be American   August 22nd, 2008 6:41 pm ET

Why, why, why do we need to start this mess…. Obama has been more then too nice to Clintons … even after all the mess they put him through…. see folks keep this crap up and the cheater and lier and the father of illegitimate child will be your next President and his pill poping wife will be the first lady….. pick the best canidate and HRC supporters JUST STOP what you are doing as it is simply wrong…. and is not doing anyone any good… lets unite the party and vote the best man in…. I do think HRC will be the secretary of health….

Thank you!

Obama 08

Ann, California   August 22nd, 2008 6:41 pm ET

And so now, Obama needs to be seeking Hillary's opinion as to who he should choose. PULEEEZ give me a break! This has gotten way, way too ridiculous for words. But I've got plenty. These so-called peacemakers, as Begala, Carville and others like to call themselves, are nothing more than wolves in sheeps clothing masquerading as Obama supporters when in fact, they would like nothing more than to see him fall flat on his face. They are fanning the flames of division, hoping it will catch fire and destroy Obama's bid. This is treason and extraordinary hypocrisy. As they say, keep your friends close but your enemies closer. . .

Shaik   August 22nd, 2008 6:41 pm ET

Carville and Begala need to grow up….they are acting like all the tired PUMAs. Enough already…..making all these statements when you DON"T REALLY KNOW whether his VP committee vetted her or not is not helpful.
*Your* candidate will not be the nominee….face it, and rally around the real candidate and stop all this nonsense!

FL Obama Supporter   August 22nd, 2008 6:40 pm ET

Key point of this article:

Clinton did not need to be formally vetted by the Obama campaign because of her lengthy stint in the public eye.

Jeremy   August 22nd, 2008 6:40 pm ET

CLINTON 2012!!!!!

Robert Bauer, Sonoma County, CA   August 22nd, 2008 6:40 pm ET

This is ridiculous conjecture on the part of two people who really know nothing first-hand about the topic at all. Nobody but Obama and Clinton know anything first-hand about what has gone on between the two of them. And, they are both being supportive of each other. So, what happens? Two bored buttonheads with nothing better to do, get on the news and create a story, which underneath the surface, is nothing more than an exercise in self-absoption.

mrspeel   August 22nd, 2008 6:40 pm ET

Are you stooping to National Enquirer level now??

Since this statement came from an "unnamed" Democratic "insider", I put NO CREDENCE in it at all. Anyone with half a brain can figure out that it's just a Hill-Raiser trying to stir things up at the Democratic Convention next week, hoping that it will create chaos for Barack Obama!

Why does the MSM buy into anonymous statements? Isn't it your job to verify before you report? You're just repeating a rumor that you haven't substantiated.

Chryssa   August 22nd, 2008 6:40 pm ET

She WAS vetted - remeber the primary season? That was enough for Obama to know she's not the one for VP.

Lisa   August 22nd, 2008 6:40 pm ET

Don't worry we will get the last laugh in November!

s   August 22nd, 2008 6:40 pm ET

only articles like this, would give reasons for former clinton supporters to get angry- AGAIN!

it's a shame CNN as resulted to brining up drama everytime. you guys need to start reporting on the latest news and stop focusing on the past. who cares whether she was vetted or not. apparently the obama campaign has reasons they chose not to vet her. let it go.

dem 08

Dan   August 22nd, 2008 6:40 pm ET

I hope that this story fizzles out…

It's stories like this that make me continue to question Obama, just as I feel I'm embracing him.

I don't want to be the one reminding Obama supporters that they were the ones who said they didn't need the Hillary supporters if we lose…

John Oross   August 22nd, 2008 6:39 pm ET

My feeling is that Senator Clinton would be much more valuable as a cabinet member than as VP. Here she could focus upon health care reform! Heaven knows we need it.

Proud Democrat   August 22nd, 2008 6:39 pm ET

What is the big deal? Obama is the nominee and he has every rights to have his consultant for his VP. I still have lot of respect for both Hillary and Bill but they are losing that respect very quickly due they can not get over it. Remember, Obama was the victim during the primary. It was Hillary who attacked Obama for not ready to be commander in chief, using Osama Bin Laden in ad, dispute the Michigan and Florida delegates which she was agreed to. At last, I am very disappointed that both James Caville and Paul Begala are frustrated. I like you guys very much but you are not helping the cause at this point. You can express your frustration after 11/4/08

Phyllis/ PA   August 22nd, 2008 6:39 pm ET

Hillary for President. She would have to have Obama as her VP only because the democratic party is split. Maybe as her VP he could gin the experience that at present he totally lacks.

If Hillary is not nominated, I am one of the many that will vote for McCain.

Roger Raines   August 22nd, 2008 6:39 pm ET

Obama is the only person in the world who could get someone like John Mcsame Elected. I don't want that too happen but I guess it will. I feel sorry for the country but the Dems did it .Some people never learn that you have too listen too your voters every now and then.

Helene, GA   August 22nd, 2008 6:39 pm ET

She may have told him she didn't want the job. How do we know what they talked about during their private meeting at Feinsteins's home? We dont' know. I think the pundits should stop causing trouble.

John   August 22nd, 2008 6:39 pm ET

PUMAS PLEASE!!!!!
HE EVEN ANNOUNCE WHO HE PICKED

YALL STILL HAVE A SMALL CHANCE

cj   August 22nd, 2008 6:38 pm ET

Obama is a flip-flop…. I don't trust this guy at all.

Shannon   August 22nd, 2008 6:38 pm ET

Obama is a self serving empty suit, and as a Democrat, I can't wait to vote against him and for HIllary Clinton. He voted for FISA, he voted for the Cheney Energy bill, he isn't a democrat, he only cares about himself, and he has a catch phrase that caught on with the media. Hope and change, what a joke. Hillary Clinton still beats him in the latest polls, we need a leader, not a wannabe rock star!

George   August 22nd, 2008 6:38 pm ET

At this point it seems to me that Paul and James are fanning embers of division within the party. Even if Hilary is not chosen for VP, she could still help Obama and the Party in a whole lot of different ways, provided some of her supporters would stop driving this wedge. It doesn't help Hilary a bit if Obama loses, because democrats will remember all these come the next election.

Democrats No Matter What!!   August 22nd, 2008 6:38 pm ET

Oh boo hoo. Cry me a river!

ONLY in America could a black man win an election and have people try to FORCE him to take the loser as his partner. Only in America!

And for the record, she has NOT been vetted! She never released last year's tax return or the names of the contributor's to Bill's library. Not to mention that she was a proven liar on the campaign trail by her story of ducking sniper fire. She's not vetted and if supporters wanted her in office, she would be the nominee.

The media is amazing in this whole process. Y'all have lost your minds this year and that's saying something.

Jared   August 22nd, 2008 6:38 pm ET

Most everything about her is public knowledge by this point, Obama fought against her in the primaries so its doubtful that he would have to formally vet her if he was interested in having her as his VP. This story is only being reported by the Press to stir up more news stories about "outraged" Hillary supporters.

alfred   August 22nd, 2008 6:38 pm ET

Obama/Clinton ticket is without a doubt the best test possible! but how things are looking i' am going to vote for Mccain not because if hillary is not the vp but because he hasn't even made an true effort to pay Hillary's debt now thats the snub!

Ok...   August 22nd, 2008 6:38 pm ET

All I know is that Obama and his follower's egos are going to be their downfall. They do not realize that they actually need the other half of the Democratic Party to win this election, and then some. But they continue to not only ignore their concerns, but taunt them. Good luck in November- I will not vote for McCain, but I won't vote for Obama either. I think I will just stay home this year.

Independent Iowan   August 22nd, 2008 6:38 pm ET

Unbelievable. If they are so concerned about being peacemakers, then why are they fueling disunity by saying they feel like Obama was disrespecting her? And that is why so many people didn't back Clinton and her entourage here in Iowa: they were simply "unbelievable".

PG   August 22nd, 2008 6:37 pm ET

Do these people ever know how to accept defeat and move on?

Jackson   August 22nd, 2008 6:37 pm ET

If he don't pick Clinton … he won't win!

Hillary Lover   August 22nd, 2008 6:37 pm ET

We fierce loyalists are hopeless anyway. We snivel and whine all day on blogs and comment forums hoping somehow Hillary will rise from the ashes and smite down Obama and his millions of followers. We're old, crotchety people who can't let go. And the press keeps following all, what, 15 of us? The Puma convention was attended by about 20 people, for crying out loud. But, gosh, were we 20 angry!!!!

Upon Further Review   August 22nd, 2008 6:37 pm ET

She didnt have to be vetted you morons,the nominations did that,we the people vetted her and found her lacking.

smokey   August 22nd, 2008 6:37 pm ET

Personally I think iot is ridiculous to continue to delay the announcement. I really think it is having the reverse affect that was intended. Yes, the media is hyped but I think the voters are simply turned off.

I also do not think it so important to have vetterd Hillary Clinton as her record and past has been well reviewed. I think it will be a major error to not select Hillary as the VP nomination and will very much divide the party. I simply do not understand how the Dems continue to shoot themselves in the foot….the Clintons have done so much for their party and country. If Obama has really disrespected the Clintons, he will very much regret his decidion.

Cck in Washington State   August 22nd, 2008 6:37 pm ET

PUMAs need to relax and considedr the fact that maybe Hillary did not want the VP slot. She said so herself that she never said she did want it. Perhaps in her meeting with Obama right after suspending her campaign, the two of them talked about other positions in the administration that she would prefer–attorney general? sec'y of health and welfare? One of these positions would allow her to pursue her objectives and maintain a high-profile position.

Scott   August 22nd, 2008 6:37 pm ET

He's running the show now. Let him conduct it in his own way.

MARYANN Oswego IL   August 22nd, 2008 6:37 pm ET

Hillary should be on the top of the Ticket…Obama is playing games with the AMERICAN people…sooner or later people will see right through this man. I just saw the segment on CNN about Obama's half brother living in poverty!!!! Barack cannot even get his whole family united and his followers think he will unite this party! I have always been for HILLARY CLINTON and I will not vote for Barack Obama…He lied to us saying that she was on his short list….he is just another George W Bush waiting for someone with experience to tell him what to do.

Adam   August 22nd, 2008 6:37 pm ET

Will these two guys please shut up! They are just mad that their canidate didn't win. Sore losers all around. PUMAS? you mean closet republicans. If they cared so much about Clinton they could have shown the country by getting her out of debt. Those two guys are the reason a lot of us democrats get a bad reputation as whiny. Also, Clinton said this was Obamas decision to make. Why should she have a say?
p.s.
Anyone who would vote for McCain because they didn't win are so selfish it's amazing. Think of the soldiers and sailors who will die if a democrat isn't in charge.

Nunya   August 22nd, 2008 6:37 pm ET

As far as the vetting, the talk at the time she suspended her campaign was how she wouldn't need to be vetted because she was such a well-known quantity and so clearly qualified. Undoubtedly the same people who are complaining about no vetting now instead would be complaining about how insulting vetting her was if he had done it. They just are looking for something to complain about in the situation because their candidate didn't win.

And please… She could not have made it more clear that she wanted the slot, and now she tries to make it sound like she doesn't. Of course, neither position was expressed in straight-out explicit terms, so that she can claim that she never said that she wanted it and that she never said she didn't want it. So now it's Slick Hilly instead of Slick Willy.

Trina   August 22nd, 2008 6:37 pm ET

The Democrats' in-fighting continues to hand the Republicans an easy victory. This election was theirs for the taking. But … nooooo … Dems have to continue this schoolyard fighting.

mm   August 22nd, 2008 6:37 pm ET

You can't spend months telling us that you do not believe the guys message, and that he's unprepared only to get upset when he doesn't want you on the team.

Cynthia   August 22nd, 2008 6:36 pm ET

No she did not get snubbed. One of the political analysts said that she had been vetted for 20 years so I would think she didnot. But, in any case, it is probably a blessing in disguise that she did not because nobody knows what would have come to light about the Clinton Library donors among other things. Sometimes it is best that we don't know the answer. Why stir up cow manure (not the word I want to use) - all it will do is make it stink.

Rob in Sacramento   August 22nd, 2008 6:36 pm ET

if she had run a campaign that enabled her to win, id be set to vote for her, no problem. thing is, she didnt. she didnt win & couldnt keep her staff remotely civil. she lost & her husband will be resentful over it til death. hillary allowed the attacks to get personal & poisoned the well with obama. after running a low brow campaign, her supporters have now resorted to accusations of gender bias, disenfranchisement & fraud.
its 3am, your husbands with an intern & its goin to cost al gore the election & doom us all to 8 years of greed & stupidity. who do you want answering the phone? thats enough vetting right there…………………………….

Mark R. Milwaukee WI   August 22nd, 2008 6:36 pm ET

If it's not Hillary then this race is going to be far closer than it needs to be. I don't know why you wouldn't choose to unite the party by picking her. I'll vote for Obama anyway because one more conservative supreme court justice would set us back decades. But it sure would be refreshing to not have a white man in the white house for once.

Mark R. Milwaukee WI   August 22nd, 2008 6:30 pm ET

If this all comes to bear, I'm devastated, and I think it spells defeat for us in November. Unfortunately, there is a big split in the democratic party over this. I will vote for Barack Obama because one more conservative supreme court justice would set us back DECADES. But if he hasn't chosen Hillary then he has chosen poorly. I can't imagine he would let a chance to unify the party slip through his hands.

Captain Capslock   August 22nd, 2008 6:30 pm ET

They wouldn't be so angry if media types like Begala and Carville didn't keep throwing fuel on their fire.

Theresa - Minneapolis   August 22nd, 2008 6:30 pm ET

Hillary is not entitled to anything, guys! Why is that so hard for so many to accept? I personally hope she IS chosen as the VP so that all these babies will finally shut up and get behind the party!

My worst nightmare is to see McCain elected. I'd hope that would be the worst nightmare of any Democrat BUT Hillary supporters are not Democrats. They're Hillary-crats. I think that sucks…

Joe Kiloz   August 22nd, 2008 6:30 pm ET

N A T I O N A L,,,,,,,G U A R D,,,,,,,,,,T O,,,,,,,,,R E D E P L O Y

Ron from Bel Air   August 22nd, 2008 6:29 pm ET

Obama's campaign falters again in the closing hours…not the Clintons' fault this time, is it?

Sue   August 22nd, 2008 6:29 pm ET

No she didn't get snubbed. People have the right to make their own choices whether they are right or wrong to another person.

Amanda   August 22nd, 2008 6:28 pm ET

He snubs Hillary and all women…what else is new? He will go for the same old, same old - white guy and try to get votes with middle America. It will never work…most people are done with him. McCaine is up in the polls because they are sick of him! He won't be elected president in 08! Thank god!

Sarah- ARIZONA   August 22nd, 2008 6:27 pm ET

No she did NOT get snubbed.

Denise   August 22nd, 2008 6:27 pm ET

I am eagerly awaiting the announcement so I can decide whether I will put my full support behind Obama or behind McCain. I am leaning McCain but if Obama picks Hillary I will feel obligated to support that ticket. I'd like to know so I can get started. But why am I not surprised that Mr. Self-Involved is dragging this out, wasting everyone's time. "I know but I'm not telling. Neener neener neener!" What a child.

A diamond with a flaw is better than a pebble with none.
Confucious

concern   August 22nd, 2008 6:27 pm ET

John McCain was born in Panama! Who really was born in the USA!

Can he even run for POTUS!

spoony   August 22nd, 2008 6:26 pm ET

we need mccain as are predient. he is a rich and hes white. i dont wont to be atacked by iran and the russians. i dont trust a black muzlim as presidnt. obama just wants to help poor black people and he does not care about whites.

Ashley   August 22nd, 2008 6:25 pm ET

Oh here goes, let the Clinton supporters start filling these comments.

Obama + Anybody But Clinton '08

anonmouys   August 22nd, 2008 6:25 pm ET

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Ann   August 22nd, 2008 6:24 pm ET

If that is the case, then I am staying home in November. Obama is a fool.

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