August 24, 2008
Posted: August 24th, 2008 03:42 PM ET

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Protesters voice their concerns outside the DNC headquarters on Capitol Hill in April.
Protesters voice their concerns outside the DNC headquarters on Capitol Hill in April.

DENVER, Colorado (CNN) – In another bid to restore party unity, the Democratic National Committee voted unanimously Sunday to restore full convention voting rights to Florida and Michigan delegates.

The move, which had been sought by former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton since shortly after the primary season began, was endorsed by presumptive nominee Barack Obama last month.

Florida and Michigan Democrats had been penalized by the DNC Rules Committee for holding their primaries in January, in violation of party rules. Under the initial penalty, Florida and Michigan were stripped of their delegates, and barred from attending the convention.

Clinton and Obama agreed not to campaign in either state and Obama’s name did not appear on the Michigan ballot. Clinton won both primaries in January, and - locked in a tight battle to win the nomination - urged for full delegations from both states to be seated. Her effort failed, and she conceded to Obama shortly after the primary season ended.

In June, the Rules and Bylaws Committee had voted to allow both states’ delegations to be seated at the convention, with each delegate awarded half a vote divided between the candidates based on a formula devised by party officials.

The number of delegates required to claim the Democratic nomination will rise as a result of Sunday’s decision.

 

Filed under: Democratic National Convention


Ruben Arias   August 24th, 2008 6:48 pm ET

McCain ads, which criticizing Obama for not picking Hilary Clinton as VP, is pure hypocricy. If it was a mistake, they should be happy and closed their mouse. Stop criticizing Obama and shows to the American people McCain will be doing something different than the Bush administration disaster.

African Americans sticking together   August 24th, 2008 6:46 pm ET

Come on, we need to take care of our brothers and sisters. We've been waiting a long time for this opportunity. Now, let's not blow it and vote for the white guy....we've got our choice. United we stand.

Obama08!

E   August 24th, 2008 6:46 pm ET

They were told 100 times how to have their votes counted, They 'follow the rules!

Had they had legitimate primaries, Obama would have been on the ticket and STILL would have beat Hillary.

heartlyss1   August 24th, 2008 6:45 pm ET

In response to Denise Post -
For God's sake, I hope these people do not start whining!
I am sick and tired of people whining.

First of all Denise if Obama really cared about Mi and FL he would have stood up for them to be fully seated from the get go. No wait, that would have meant that when Mi and FL re-voted he would have still not received the majority of votes BUT NOW that it stands in his favor to get them fully seated he is all over it like white on rice. If Obama thinks for one instance that Mi and FL will cast their vote for him he is sadly mistaken. Mi and FL dont play the Injustice game. When Obama and Biden Blow the chance of Dems getting back in office I fully expect all you OBAMAHEADS to start pointing the blame on Hillary for loosing the election – Mr Obama just needs to look in the mirror to see his arrogent bobblehead to find out who lost this election.

David from California   August 24th, 2008 6:45 pm ET

I am a life-long Democrat. There is no doubt Hillary would have won the nomination if FL and MI were allowed to vote. Obama is not qualified to be President. I will vote for McCain or not vote at all, but I will not vote for Obama. Go Hillary 2012!

jo   August 24th, 2008 6:45 pm ET

obama biden ladin....... ill say it first .....look out cause the repukes are going to use it ......to scare the crap out of everyone ...thats it iam moveing to canada

Patrick of Canton, Ohio   August 24th, 2008 6:44 pm ET

I love the smell of corruption in the morning.

Oh, how we did watch you democrats work and twist your system, the whole Michigan and Florida ordeal is a prime example of government corruption.

But what do we do? Do we vote Obama who took the the nomination by stealth and manuevering, or do we vote Hillary though she is corrupt and lacks all judgement? Do we vote McCain who we fear will cast us into a war with Iran and feed the oil companies?

Come on America! Open your eyes, it pains me greatly to see our great nation held back by this oligarchy. Let us rise up against this tyranny collectively and defeat them the only way possible, let us vote all third party candidates into congress and the white house. Together we all can crush this horrible corruption with our freedom to vote, but it must be a concerted effort.

Marie   August 24th, 2008 6:44 pm ET

I believe the DNC has just angered more people than they have brought on board. Obama was not for this move when he knew it would hurt his chances for the nomination, and suddenly there is all kinds of support. Just another Obama flip-flop. And the Obama supporters are quite arrogant. They claimed during the primary season if HRC ever got the nomination, they would NEVER vote for her
and continue to spew hate and garbage, they can take partial blame for lack of unity here. You can be sure that if HRC had gotten the nomination, they would not be voting for her, so what is the difference here, if her supporters do not want to jump on the Obama bandwagon. We do live in America, where we are allowed to vote for the candidate we see as best for the office. Your choice may not be mine, and mine not yours, but I respect your right to your view....seems the obama supporters respect no one else's rights.

Jmm   August 24th, 2008 6:43 pm ET

How convenient that the rules committee restored all delegates from Florida and Michigan after Obama was given the nomination.

Pelosi, Dean and all other Democrats can spin this all they want. Obama is a creation of the DNC and the media. Please tell me another candidate that was in the senate or congress for 1 year and became a presidential nominee.

Obama snubbed Hillary. He's too arrogant to believe that he needs Hillary supporters like myself. Remember voters like myself are reliable voters, young voters are not. Let's see in November if they will wait in lines for hours just to cast their vote. My bet is they won't and McCain will win..

I will never forgive the Obama people and the DNC for allowing Bill Clinton to be painted as a racist and for the way Hillary Clinton was treated by the media.

Because of his arrogance Obama will lose my vote and votes of many others. He better not think that New York State is in the bag for him. McCain has a lot of support in Western New York.

Ralph   August 24th, 2008 6:43 pm ET

If Hillary were to get the nomination now, there would be riots everywhere there are blacks. When he loses in November there may be riots then. All the Obama-bots yelling, rigged election! This will not be a good year no matter which way it goes. Blacks can't even celebrate without looting and sitting fires. Remember when the Cowboys won?

PUMA 08   August 24th, 2008 6:41 pm ET

In reply to windu's comment the same could be said
about obama!!!

Barack Obama is hated by all the Republicans and half the Democrats. Barack Obama will never be President.
Never. Get over it.

ron democrat turned independent   August 24th, 2008 6:39 pm ET

RENEE

do you realise that your candidate for president (obama) could not qualify as a VP because of inexperience. ironic don't you think

Dem in Georgia   August 24th, 2008 6:38 pm ET

Danielle , Canada

I won't bother qouting your post. Just one question though. Why are you giving your opinion on this or any other American issue? You don't belong here ... IDIOT!!! Go stick your head in a hole somewhere, or whatever you people in Canada do. Moron!!!

BlueDog Dem   August 24th, 2008 6:37 pm ET

I love it....PUMAS get what they want and they're still "Outraged"...reminds me of a two year old....grow up folks...we all know you weren't going to vote for Barack anyway...do yourselves a favor..lighten up and move on...the world will still turn (and we will win in November) without you.

Cynthia   August 24th, 2008 6:36 pm ET

Florida and Michigan for whatever were penalized for holding their elections ahead of the date scheduled. The reality of it if there were not rules in place about things in this country we would all be in trouble. I do think that it was nice that they gave them their full votes back, but what will happen in the next election?

Pat   August 24th, 2008 6:34 pm ET

JUST IN : Hillary Clinton just announced she was releasing all her delegates to Obama's Campaign. This takes the Sting out of the DNC Operation apparently it was misunderstood.
Not that CNN will post this as I'm in the Moderation Box 90% of the time!

ron democrat turned independent   August 24th, 2008 6:34 pm ET

does sen. obama have any idea of what this does to his credibility. or is he that arrogant he doesn't care.that his charisma will overcome his shortcomings. you can fool some of the people ect.

Truth   August 24th, 2008 6:34 pm ET

Good to hear. Many people understand it would not have changed the results either way but appreciate the humble gesture.

Bigmarty55   August 24th, 2008 6:34 pm ET

I don't know whether that was really James Carville who posted a while ago, but if it was, he let something drop-something that may be Billary's drop back position. As several of you have picked up on-he talks about 4 years from now. My first post said that Billary is going to clog the convention, and I still believe that to be true. But Carville-the unabashed Billary apologist has–or may have-let the cat out of the bag. He talks about four years from now. Why would he do that?

EASY! It is because Billary may actually want McCain to win-figuring that he is a four year deal-and that she can politically come four years from now instead of eight (after a two term Obama presidency).

My guess is that she will attempt to subvert the Dem Convention. Failing that, she's "voting" for McCain--as Carville has just told everybody, for the reasons expressed above. Dems are so easy and dumb!

Nee   August 24th, 2008 6:33 pm ET

I am sick of hearing that Michigan and Florida didn't follow the rules. It was the LEADERSHIP of these states that didn't follow the rules. You don't punish VOTERS for that!!!!!! You don't take away votes from citizens. EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so disillusioned with this party for ever allowing such a thing to happen.

At any rate, once it was clear that the race was so close, a re-vote should have been done in both of those states. But it wasn't supported by Obama because he knew he had a good chance of losing one or both of those primaries, catipulting Clinton to victory.

Obama does not care about anything more than he cares about himself. Hillary could come to my house and beg me to vote for him – I will NEVER vote for him. EVER.

Charlotte   August 24th, 2008 6:33 pm ET

Flip-flop fool…Now it is ok when before it was not. Does obama know what he wants? Pandering to the maxx now.

Dem in Georgia   August 24th, 2008 6:31 pm ET

Bryan says, "Why does not Hillary Clinton run for President as an Independant ?"

Well Bryon, you idiot, she won't do it because you people won't support her when she needs you. You people are so delusional. You think she has this endless supply of cash stashed away and she should spend it all on you (you that want her to be President). You don't feel that you should have to donate anything. Meanwhile, Obamas supporters are sending in gobs of cash in support of the candidate they believe in (loyalty – that's a new word for you PUMA's). And you people act like it's a crime or something. They sent him the money so he would have a chance to win ... and he did. You didn't send Hillary anything so she wouldn't have a chance to win ... and she didn't. Or maybe you feel like she did early on this year ... Entitlement is enough ... right? WRONG!!! She knows better now and she also knows that you people won't support her as an Independant either!!!

Northwood   August 24th, 2008 6:31 pm ET

I can not understand why the Obama supporters continue to carry around such hatred for Hillary Clinton, who has been doing everything to support Obama. Clinton is not responsiable for her supporters and how we feel about this process. When did it become racist to question a poltician on his merits..I am so sick of Obama supporters using that excuse. You accuse Clinton of being negative when anything someone says or does is racist. I am a democrat who believes that Obama is not qualified..If I vote, I will vote for Obama because I know he is just like Hillary Clinton on the issues...just not as qualified to get the job done. Obama has two months to convince me and I am willing to listen..but his choice of Biden was a calculated political move and the disrespect of the Clinton's have not helped. Also, unity works both ways..So maybe the Obama supporters should also try and be a bit more gracious when discussing the historic campaign of Senator Clinton.

BJ   August 24th, 2008 6:30 pm ET

With Florida and Michigan, Hillary can snatch this nomination away from Obama! Even IF she releases her delegates, they can still vote for her... it's not over till it's over!!!

Hillary or McCain '08

david in seattle   August 24th, 2008 6:30 pm ET

This is just absurd.....so absurd that it just makes me want to hurl....
Why do we even have a stupid primary in the first place? Lets just get all the candidates up there, hear what they have to say and vote.....the winner wins and that is the end of it. No delegates no electoral college no endless campaign bs and no CNN/FOX/MSNBC second guessing, misquoting and twisting the truth to the point that we are all so sick of hearing about it that we dont even bother to listen anymore. What a stupid system we have..

Kathy   August 24th, 2008 6:28 pm ET

a bit too late honey

Carlos   August 24th, 2008 6:28 pm ET

If Hillary did win the nomination after roll call at the convention, does she have a chance to win?

I wonder if they would post that question someplace to see what the responses would be.

a message for ben   August 24th, 2008 6:27 pm ET

Ben,

so you know john kerry's choice was an excellent choice, hence is why HRC didn't run for presidency at the time. fully knowing that no one WANTED TO CLEAN BUSH'S MESS WITH IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN. It is but a strategy the democrat saw fit at the the time. now the matter is in your hand, if you want MCBUSH to go ahead and send/keep more of our borthers and sisters to get killed because of an illigitimate war started by BUSH, then i would say, that you and your close minded fellows are blinded by POLITICS "AN ART OF MANIPULATION" Led by the republicans, and you must send your child over there so they can risk their lives for a war that is about the good will of one person that is BUSH, and his good Fellow MCcain.

otherwise, stop complaining, and wake up, because America needs you now. It isn't about being a coward to face a difficulty or a sitaution, it is about being the outstanding citizen that this country needs whose main goal is a good economy = jobs for everyone. a good leader = trust, and responsiblity.

Obama is the right choice, and an excellent choice for america to have an african american for president, because then, america will reallly get over its difficulties from within when we back up a minority for presidnet. it is a STEP TOWARD A BETTER FUTURE. FOR OUR CHILDREN. so I IMPLORE YOU TO WAKE UP.

OBAMA/BIDEN '08

windu   August 24th, 2008 6:27 pm ET

Hillary Clinton is hated by all the Republicans and half the Democrats. Hillary Clinton will never be President. Never. Get over it.

Abby   August 24th, 2008 6:26 pm ET

As a FLORIDA VOTER – does obama really think my state is that stupid???? We know who blocked re-votes in FL – and the candidate that WON our state – it was NOT obama – it was Senator Hillary Clinton. Sorry – obama gang – obama will NEVER win FL – and he will never be elected without the Millions of Hillary supporters.
Maybe next time!

Peter   August 24th, 2008 6:25 pm ET

I suppose rules needed to have changed to benefit Obama lest certain groups be accused of racism...

2Nurselady   August 24th, 2008 6:25 pm ET

I hope Hillary Clinton DOES NOT release her delegates. We who voted for her DO NOT WANT THAT! We want our votes to stay just where they are. I hope the Florida and Michigan delegates vote for Hillary Clinton. Now that they have full votes, they can be the 200 delegate votes she needs to be the nominee.

Hillary! Please do not release your delegates! Barack Obama slapped us all in the face and made things worse by not even considering you for VP.

Please stand up for ALL women in this country and stand up against the disenfranchisement of women in this country.

Joyce in Florida   August 24th, 2008 6:25 pm ET

I can't wait to see what happens at roll call vote for Hillary. I hope that she becomes our nominee. If not, I will vote for Obama/Biden because DEMOCRATS NEED TO TAKE BACK THE WHITE HOUSE. Still a Hillary Clinton supporter. Can't wait to see the results from the Denver convention. Go Hillary!!!!!!!!!!!!

Molly   August 24th, 2008 6:25 pm ET

To sounds stupid – You ARE!!! WE ARE voting our interests – and the best for our country – it is NOT obama. Obama is an Arrogant, Radical FRAUD – This FL & MI – let's count all the votes – proves what a FRAUD this guy is. The DNC sure made a huge mistake with this loser. A vote for McCain is a vote AGAINST obama and the DNC – that is the goal!
McCain will take good care of our country – can we really say that about obama??????

Danny, OH   August 24th, 2008 6:24 pm ET

$1.00 per 18,000,000 PUMA = $18,000,000 and Clinton's debt is paid and she can move on.
They say empty burrels make the most noise and its true. Clinton's supporters support only by mouth and not by action.
Don't you just learn from Obama's supporters?

Nate Hussein   August 24th, 2008 6:24 pm ET

Do you Clintonista's and Puma's really think she has a snowballs chance in 2012…..Really?

Obama / Biden '08

Ian   August 24th, 2008 6:24 pm ET

If Biden becomes the V.P. he will no longer have a vote in the Senate. It's a good move on Obama's part, use Biden's expertise and get the old timer out of the Senate at the same time. Genious.

Ian   August 24th, 2008 6:21 pm ET

Hillary and her followers are just poor losers and are the most unintelligent people I've seen this election. I'd rather vote for another Bush term than have her in office.

Defiant   August 24th, 2008 6:19 pm ET

THis is complete garbage! The only reason why this sorry excuse for a man is the Democratic nominee is because he stole it by way of Michigan and Florida. The number is now higher. He is not the nominee. Hillary is the nominee in my view and in many other people's views. I will not vote for obama (his name does not even deserve to be capitalized), I will be writing in Hillary's name when I vote. Hillary you need to run as an independent. You would without a doubt be the next POTUS.

susannahjones   August 24th, 2008 6:19 pm ET

How come they can do this after Florida was supposed to be punished for holding their primary early????

Oh. Yes. I. Forgot.

Barack Obama would not have been given the nomination if Hillary had been able to count them and Michigan as full votes.

WOW. Add in the lame cheating caucus system for lame little lamb Obama et voila..... Now he has Grandpa to hold his hand and fight his battles for him as well as the biggest, most obscene amount of money ever to splash everywhere and we end up with a spoilt brat for President of the United States.

This is way worse than G.W.

ET from OMAHA   August 24th, 2008 6:18 pm ET

For all those fools thinking restoring full vote for MI & FL is a slap in a face of Hillary do you the smart democrats want to loose those 2 states in november by not sitting their delegation?
You want refuge, they give you refuge, now you want to sent out the house owner.

Just Me   August 24th, 2008 6:18 pm ET

The only change you can believe in is the change that a typical Chicago politician does when it benefits HIM. I'll change my mind, I'll change my vote, I'll change my church, I'll change my uncle IF YOU'LL VOTE FOR ME!!

Hank Carleton   August 24th, 2008 6:18 pm ET

Dems are saying Biden will bring in the Catholic voter. I disagree. Most Catholics are Pro-Life. He is Pro-Choice. If other Churches in the U.S. are like ours, HE WILL NOT GET THEIR VOTES. Also, what is his stand on the question asked of Obama and McCain at Saddleback? When is a child deserving of human rights? Obama could NOT answer and Mcain said at conception. What is Biden's stand on this issue? He CANNOT be pro abortion and be a Catholic. No Way!!!!

tomiwa   August 24th, 2008 6:18 pm ET

The problems with US citizens is that, most are so spoilt and never faced real hardship even when one is looming. its simple vote Mccain into the white house and gets and deserve whatever comes to you.

Think!

Danny, OH   August 24th, 2008 6:17 pm ET

All this Clinton Supporters thought she was going to win over a BLACK MAN. But who JAH Bless no one can Curse.
Clinton and Obama agreed that those states will not count but when she found out that she cannot win without those states, she started asking that they should be counted.
Blacks in America have voted all these years for a WHITE president but when it is time for the opposite we see the complaining and whining.
I would have believed it if this were to be in a third world country and not in the US.
God Bless Barack

Woody   August 24th, 2008 6:17 pm ET

Hmmm. Where have I heard this talk before? "He's too old to be president. He's just a little but mentally unbalanced. You're not sure what can come out of his mouth on any given day. Oh, and he has a reputation for having a short temper." Funny how all the same smears that have used against McCain can also be used against Biden. Nice job, Barack. Way to unify the party. Another indefensible flip-flop. There are two big differences between McCain and Biden, however. 1) McCain would never settle for second fiddle and 2) Biden thinks Barack is "clean and articulate" and if you want to meet an Indian person just go to any 7-11. It's on tape, go look it up.

Syed Shamsuddoha   August 24th, 2008 6:15 pm ET

May I please ask what is John McCain's educational background? I am not interested in his military history or military education or military background, or his being a POW in Vietnam War etc etc. All I am interested to know is: which university did he attend and what sort of degree did he earn. I question how would he, if elected as the President of the US, run the country of so many highly educated people having no similar background.

Cheers.

S

KateyGreen   August 24th, 2008 6:14 pm ET

So what do the rules mean to Democrats?

Clinton-YUK!!   August 24th, 2008 6:13 pm ET

Will this stop the crazy crying? Will these crazy people pay her bills? I wouyld be so upset if I were a vendor that needed to be paid by this crazy woman. She knew that she had no chance of winning yet she continued to campaign. Her 18 million supporters left her high and dry when it came to funding this messed up campaign. Please go away. No one can unify these crazy people. They are as crazy as Clinton.

Brad IL.   August 24th, 2008 6:12 pm ET

This family of Democrats are going for John McCain. Obama is and will not bring this party unity , and My family will note vote for this slick willy. Fire Howard Dean will only help this issue. Joe Biden has not had a good campaign for the White House ever. Hillary supporters vote for John McCain and lets show this party who was there back-bone.

michigander   August 24th, 2008 6:12 pm ET

The Democratic voters living in Michigan (and I imagin Fla.) had absolutely NOTHING to do with this ruling. It was all decided by the talking heads of the Democratic Party, who, as usual, had no input when making this decision from those voters of the states that were penalized. I'm not paricularly a Hillary fan, but I believe the majority rule is what our democracy is all about.

Linda   August 24th, 2008 6:12 pm ET

Florida and Michigan Delegates for Hillary!!! Roll Call for Hillary!

barbara   August 24th, 2008 6:11 pm ET

I'm sick of reading the nasty remarks aimed at anyone that does not blindly follow Obama off the cliff as being a PUMA. When I read someone's remarks that use that term in a degrogatory manner, it just shows me they cannot think for themselves and then it is clear to me why they would be supporting Obama.

GF   August 24th, 2008 6:11 pm ET

POSTED BY GRIFF
August 24th, 2008 2:53 pm ET

Yes I too can make Mistake's, with listening to This Garbage!!! THey Cheated like nobody could cheat…… A Hot-Favorite is Destroyed, Just like "Ayala", (THe Thoroughbred)… Just so insurance could be collected!!! This time by the Democrats… But you wont live long enough, to claim; Pelosi and other Democrats… This year 2008, Will Be always known as…. Hate! Hate! Hate! For the Dem's;
You'r Party as Folded, You just don't know it yet… Sucker's!

CNN I HOPE YOU TOOK THE PROPER ACTION AND REPORTED THIS POST. IT IS INCREDIBLY THREATENING AND OBVIOUS TO ANYONE PAYING ATTENTION, ILLEGAL.

Mary from Kentucky   August 24th, 2008 6:10 pm ET

obama/biden 08

Erika, KS   August 24th, 2008 6:10 pm ET

What a disgrace and it is absolutely outrageous! Why even bother to hold an election this November and give to Obama already! It is unbelievable that the DNC decides to give Florida and Michigan full voting rights, but everyone, including Obama cried and whined about it just a few months ago. Obama wanted to punish these voters for not following the rules, and now he wants their votes! Oh, I see he wants them now. The backstabbing against Hillary Clinton continues. I will NEVER vote for the democratic party ever again. How corrupt to change the rules so it will favor Obama. Un flipping believable!

louise, SAnta Barbara, CA   August 24th, 2008 6:10 pm ET

Shouldn't they have followed the rules?????

PoliticoMike   August 24th, 2008 6:09 pm ET

That's fair, reward them for not following the rules and directions. I see they learned well from Hilliary, wine and moan till you get things your way.

Pathetic.

CNN STOP TRYING TO START FIGHTS!! You don't get it by now?

B In Dallas   August 24th, 2008 6:09 pm ET

Do you really think that all the 18million supporters are going to remain to be fools. Most have moved on But some of you are willing to let "MCCANE de Same" fool... make you look like Boo Boo the fool Go ahead. What about the poeple who did not vote for Hillary in the primary but for another candidate that are now for Obama and the ones like me who started off as a Hillary supporter and do not vote in the primaries but will vote in THE REAL election. People need to come together and realize we have to grow up. And until Hillary's debt is paid off Zip it. Besides didn't Hillary also say her self when she was winning that the FL & MI votes just will not count. A rule as a Senator that she voted on.

gdouglas   August 24th, 2008 6:09 pm ET

If Americans use their common sense they will vote McCain. Obama and the old boys school of the Democrats appeared to do whatever was necessary to ensure the true leader; Mrs Clinton, did not get elected. Whether Amercians want to believe it or not the leadersip for the Democrats was all about race, and theObama camp made sure of that

Daniel   August 24th, 2008 6:08 pm ET

WOW! If they were going to do that all along then they should have let the vote stand back in Feb...HILLARY WOULD BE IN OBAMA'S SPOT NOW!

What a joke the way they run this party!

I think Obama has done some kind of legal dirty work in every election he's won...am I right?

Peter   August 24th, 2008 6:08 pm ET

HYPOCRITICAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It should have been restored before democratic primary ended.

mab   August 24th, 2008 6:07 pm ET

To all of your comments. I am praying for all of you. You all are showing your true colors and hate. May God bless all of you, because you need it.

David CA   August 24th, 2008 6:04 pm ET

The Dems managed to mess this race up big time. I'm on the fence still but leaning my vote to the right for the first time in my adult life. Obama needs to give Hillary a LARGE role in his administration plans or he will lose most of her 18 million votes. Just saying.

Hillary 2008/2012

syl parbe   August 24th, 2008 6:02 pm ET

It seems to me now Obama has gotten all that he wanted (except the presidency for which he is not prepared), the Obama supporters could cultivate a little more political sophisticiation by getting rid of their verbal vulgarities.

So very happy   August 24th, 2008 6:02 pm ET

This is fantastic! Now that everyone knows the real Obama, mabey they will change their votes! It could happen! Woohoo!

PUMA   August 24th, 2008 6:01 pm ET

When it's too late to count. We see through you.

Debby of Florida   August 24th, 2008 6:00 pm ET

I'm a registered Rep. FL voter, and I think FL should not have had full restoration of their delegate vote. A half was what the comm. decided in June, and that was more than fair. But I guess adults are just children with long legs so this most recent decision made the babies happy, I'm sure.

Rick   August 24th, 2008 6:00 pm ET

Could Hillary be plotting an upset? Boy would that make Obama look stupid. At least better here that as President.

Loyalty23   August 24th, 2008 5:59 pm ET

Afghanistan Hearings

The ad starts by saying Obama "never held a single Senate hearing on Afghanistan," which is literally true. Obama, who is chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee's subcommittee on European Affairs, hasn't held any Afghanistan hearings. The full Senate Foreign Relations Committee, however, has held three hearings on Afghanistan during the past two years, and Obama attended one of them.

McCain's ad fails to mention that his own record is no better. Although he's the highest ranking Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, he missed all seven of the hearings that his panel held on Afghanistan during the same two years, according to ABCNews.com. (We looked through the transcripts of the hearings from Federal News Service to confirm ABC's report, and we found statements that showed McCain was not present at two of the hearings, statements from other senators speaking on McCain's behalf at two more hearings, and no mention of McCain whatsoever at the other three.)

Randy Hurst San Francisco, California 94121   August 24th, 2008 5:59 pm ET

Neither Clinton nor Obama will get enough votes to gain the nomination. The alternative is 1. Draft Gore with C &O giving him their delegates. 2. Gore picks Obama for VP 3. Gore and Obama promise that the first opening on the US Supreme Court will go to Hillary Clinton if she wants it. This lineup would rub out the Repugs in a landslide.

lila   August 24th, 2008 5:59 pm ET

AP NEWS – "Hillary Rodham Clinton asked not to be vetted unless she was going to be picked, the two officials said, speaking on a condition of anonymity to describe the private discussions."

lynn   August 24th, 2008 5:59 pm ET

I think JC and Kim from Dallas are the ones that are strange and see hate in everything. When I read that I did NOT see anyone talking about killing anyone. The FIRST person who I read saying that was KIM. I read the statement as referring to the fact that being the age that these people are now, they were too old to live to see the day when these events would change. The real people I am worried about are people who see everything, including someone with an opinion that differs from yours, as hatred. Maybe we should have the Secret Service investigate them ( this remind me of the Mc Carthy era)

Joy from TN   August 24th, 2008 5:58 pm ET

I read a few too many of these twisted "hate" notes. What is wrong with you people? We all have rules to follow in our lives–politicians should be as accountable as we. Senator Clinton could not be allowed to change the rules just because it was a benefit to her. Additionally, the voting was so flawed that it would have been a crime to count them in full after the fact. Every candidate should have had the right in those states to campaign. Stop acting like selfish children who had their candy taken away.

Pat Turner Mitchell   August 24th, 2008 5:58 pm ET

I am one of the much discussed Hillary Clinton supporters. I don't support her because of her husband, as characterized by the female, lime-colored jacketed reporter, on your news report this afternoon. I support Senator Hillary Clinton because she is the most qualified candidate to help correct our country's many problems today. She won the most votes in her contest with Senator Barack Obama. When, in this unique country of ours, will each individual vote be counted? In my own opinion, I am not unique in my position.

Diamond6   August 24th, 2008 5:58 pm ET

I am afraid it is starting to look like Mcshame is gaining on Obama. This country had better get off its butt or the entire country will be taken over by foreign investors if he wins. I personally don't like either and feel Obama made a big mistake by not choosing hillary as her running mate. If I were a betting man my money would be on McShame. There are too many ignorant people in this country and will not vote for a black president. I am afraid its sad but true.

lindahemmingsen@shaw.ca   August 24th, 2008 5:57 pm ET

I hope macain picks hillary as his vp.they respect each other and have been friends.Since the democratic party has gone out of their way to steal the election from her over obama, it would be wonderful if she went for macain.Iam sick of everyone didding bill and huillary they were the best of the democratic party they were in power for two terms and they were loved around the world and you and your trading partners all enjoy peace and posperity. what abunch of fools you have become you don't deserve to stand next to her.

lila   August 24th, 2008 5:56 pm ET

I don't think most the people who hate Obama, on here, are Hillary supporters. McCain is set women's rights back 50 years. Hillary has been fighting against all Mccain stands for her entire life.
They are republicans pretending to be Hillary supporters.

NO MORE BUSH STUFF   August 24th, 2008 5:55 pm ET

If GOD cant unify the country how can anyone. Hillary supporters and Stephanopolis are devisive.
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBAMA '08

Josh   August 24th, 2008 5:50 pm ET

RJ,

I live in a Blue State (MN) and will vote for McCain. What does that make me?

You are an idiot. Plain and simple.

McCain=the draft   August 24th, 2008 5:50 pm ET

I hope ANYONE voting for McCain is ready for them or their children to march off to war!
There just aren't enough troops without a draft for what blood thirsty McCain has in mind.
If that isn't enough to make you think twice, before casting that McCain vote, I don't know what is.

jeanette from Charlotte   August 24th, 2008 5:50 pm ET

Just wait until after the convention – you will see the democratic party united and sweeping across the country!
This election is going to be the most exciting ever – and with positively no recounts!

Vote Smart – Obama-Biden '08!

Karol   August 24th, 2008 5:49 pm ET

This is an outrage and just the beginning of what you can expect if B.O. is elected. What is wrong with America – now it's ok for our president to have no experience or ability to run our country? I hope your all willing to live with this arrogant self centered guy for 4 years.

Take a good long look at what the democrats have done in Congress for tha past 2 years and you will see the future. Pelosi, the DNC will be blamed for this not the Clintons.

Sherry, Atlanta   August 24th, 2008 5:49 pm ET

TO BOB IN LA: THE DNC ESTABLISHES RULES. . . THEY DON'T MAKE LAWS

Bigmarty55   August 24th, 2008 5:48 pm ET

Dear Dan from -–TEXAS (Wow, a Texan, Man I'm so impressed!) So you, from the most self-impressed, largest home of idiots in the upper 48, think that that everyone else doesn't know what they are talking about. Figures.

I went to various schools, I am ashamed to admit, that had a lot of Texans. Please say something that will convince me-R or D-that you're just not another good ole' boy idiot, who still thinks Marty Robbins is a contemporary artist, and who can't respond right away 'cause you're watching NASCAR on TV waiting for someone to get killed in a crash.

Martin

Joel   August 24th, 2008 5:48 pm ET

Rules are rules. When they are violated, there has to be consequences. FL and MI knew the consequences of their actions and must be punished accordingly. If not, was is the point of the rule in the first place. And this is coming from a former Clinton supporter.

Frodo   August 24th, 2008 5:48 pm ET

All of you Clinton supporters who are now vowing to vote for McCain are absolutely pathetic. Think about what you're doing.

Stop being so bitter that your nominee lost the primaries and back the Democratic ticket. That's the difference between Obama supporters and Hillary supporters. Had Hillary won the nomination, I can guarantee 95% of Obama people would immediately back her. I do not particularly like her, but I would vote for her because she believes in what I believe and we hold common values.

Do the same for Barack. I don't care if you don't like him, or if you don't like the way things played out, but it would be a total mistake not to vote for him. 4 more years of Bush's flawed policy will completely screw this country for good.

And there's still a good chance Hillary will be made secretary or state or something else in Obama's cabinet.

I implore you. Do the right thing. For America.

John   August 24th, 2008 5:47 pm ET

Okay, allow fulling voting rights now that Hillary is gone... pfft.

SoundsStupid2Me   August 24th, 2008 5:46 pm ET

Those of you saying McCain '08, Hillary '12, guess what if Hillary runs, she will NEVER get it. I bet those chanting that are too poor to spell able, and want to put another white man in office who is about catering to the rich only. Vote your interests for god sakes.

ME IN FL   August 24th, 2008 5:46 pm ET

Mike from DE, don't play the race card, we are in the 21st century for God's sake!!!! The man if not elegible because he has no substance he does not deliver.............he flip flops..............there is no change in his politics........you can see that by him choosing Biden as VP........one of the oldest faces in Washington politics........ how can that be change???? Also, please learn how to spell !!!!

ch   August 24th, 2008 5:46 pm ET

Obama says he can unify the country but can't unify his own party.

So do the delegates and popular votes of FL and MI count now too? If so, just how close does that put Hillary?

And exactly why was she not vetted or slected for VP despite her 18 million votes?

lynn   August 24th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

If Mc Cain was smart he would ask Clinton to be his VP. They work well together and that really would be change. Then these idiots advising Obama would get what they deserve. Mineta worked for Bush, so it would not be the first time that Democrats worked for/with Republicans.

Bryan   August 24th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

Why does not Hillary Clinton run for President as an Independant ?

the Head   August 24th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

Vote McCain...because he is the lesser of two evils! Or 3 if you count that liar Hillary!

Andrea   August 24th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

okay............so NOW you want to count all the votes? this is ridiculous. Obama is a politician just like the rest. This proves it that much more. I wasnt an angry Hillary supporter, i was a sad Hillary supporter, dealing with the fact that she lost. Now i am an angry Hillary supporter and new Independent. I am writing Hillary in, and you people that say im doing more harm than good in doing that can do cry somewhere else, i am voting for what i WANT, and what is RIGHT. Two years ago OBAMA himself didnt even think he was ready for this job. He was right.

Phoenix   August 24th, 2008 5:43 pm ET

If Hillary is nominated, the Democrats can forget about me, and many other educated blacks.

BKoi   August 24th, 2008 5:43 pm ET

CNN, quit trying to influence the election!! Trying to find trouble between Obama and Clinton is not very funny. I realize that it makes for heady conversation, but I think you have a responsibility to the American people, and the world that watches, to report the news, not fan the flames of discontent ! Stop it .

Proud African American   August 24th, 2008 5:43 pm ET

It was not okay to have full voting rigths during primaries, but now for party unity it is okay? If you break rules, you break rules. Do't count it at all. Why do it now just to gain votes and favor. I am a democrat and I am not happy that my party chooses and apply their own rules just as it soothes not as it is written. What gives them the gut or rights to criticise Bush use of Patriot Act. They are hypocrates. I will go independent this election and will choose who to vote for in October. It is not about BO or HRC, it is about the lawlessness in the DNC application of rules.

Danielle , Canada   August 24th, 2008 5:42 pm ET

I always thought that the Democratic Party was the People's Party.
Wrong , it has been exposed as being corrupt and self serving and people like Dean , Pelosi and the rest of them should be ousted at once.
They failed to give a political process due course by interfering and manipulating to sway the outcome and get their chosen one selected.
I can't believe that there is not more outrage.!!

Pat   August 24th, 2008 5:42 pm ET

It's so straightforward......FL and Mi broke the rules knowing the consequences and Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot in MI, so how can anyone say that he "lost" Michigan or that anybody else "won". To now go back and allow erroneous voting rights is against any parent's or teacher's example of right, wrong or fair. Hillary has been saying that she's all for party unity and that she's behind Obama for president, but she is obviously just a hypocrit, proving that by breaking up the party and trying to "sneak" in as a presidential candidate. This kind of unintelligent nercissism and feeling of entitlement is the most hurtful thing that can happen to the democratic party and, worse yet, may become the worst thing that can happen to the United States by helping to elect another flawed president.

rey   August 24th, 2008 5:42 pm ET

NO-BAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rey   August 24th, 2008 5:41 pm ET

CHEATERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR>..

rey   August 24th, 2008 5:41 pm ET

I feel CHEATED!

Charlotte   August 24th, 2008 5:40 pm ET

Flip-flop fool...Now it is ok when before it was not. Does obama know what he wants? Pandering to the maxx now.

rey   August 24th, 2008 5:40 pm ET

I hate politics-and OBAMA is suppose to be for change-yeah he will change things as long as it goes to his way. U SUCK!

Patrick   August 24th, 2008 5:40 pm ET

So much for PUMA.

LOL

Obama/Biden '08

vp   August 24th, 2008 5:40 pm ET

i have about had it with Obama and his supporters. Those of us wwho supported HRC are not whining and you do need us or you will lose. I guess maybe you are so arrogant that you can't see that without the majority of our votes Obama loses. The DNC put the fix on the nomination early on in the primaries. Obama fought against seated MI and Fl, nobody can dispute this. Now when it is beneficial to him he wants to seat all the delegates. Never before has there not been a roll call vote during the convention. That is how it is done people. Obama tried to change the way we do things to benefit him. Go McCain

Angel   August 24th, 2008 5:38 pm ET

McCain/Clinton 08!!

Peter (CA)   August 24th, 2008 5:38 pm ET

Where have all these zealots come from? I can't believe the stuff on these blogs today. I voted for Hillary in the primaries but she lost. Get over it.
Do you want four more years of this country being taken away from us?
Has everyone lost their mind?

Oscar F   August 24th, 2008 5:38 pm ET

Obama Makes Me Sick his arrogance and cockiness will cost the dems this election. If he would have been fair from the begining then maybe we wouldnt have these issues. Instead of unifying the party He, Pelosi and Dean have destroyed it.

Lenita G   August 24th, 2008 5:37 pm ET

I´m 67 years old and I´ve been a Democrat all my adult life. Hillary was the right candidate , the only candidate to win the 2008 elections, but then came the SPOILER from nowhere. All my friends and I are going to vote for McCain, PERIOD.

rey   August 24th, 2008 5:36 pm ET

HILARY for President-it is not too late!

rey   August 24th, 2008 5:36 pm ET

WOW-how low can you go OBAMA.

rey   August 24th, 2008 5:35 pm ET

this SUCKS......

Renee'   August 24th, 2008 5:35 pm ET

I love it new school teams with old school that is the new way of doing things. To all the fake Hillary lovers you are not fooling anybody. I must say we do love and support our candidate not like you all. It really does not matter who you vote for or why that is your GOD given right. There is no reason for you to trash a candidate because your candidate didn't win. I have not read one comment on any CNN post where one person actually describe how Obama did or said something to affect them on a personal encounter. I can understand him not being to pick just like Hillary is not mine, but that is as far as it goes she probably is a nice person and I honestly don't have any reason to make personal attacks against her even if she won. It is not place to judge her because GOD is the only one who knows all our hearts. So for those who lie and pretend to be something they are not you eventually will have to pay for that lie one day.

Don Hiller   August 24th, 2008 5:34 pm ET

With all due apology to Yogi Berra, "It ain't over until the DNC sing their Swan Song'".

Don in Seattle   August 24th, 2008 5:33 pm ET

Well isn't this just grand! What the heck do we have rules for anyway when they can be manipulated whenever someone wants. The DNC has just opened yet another can of worms for the future. How stupid of them. There is no doubt who is behind all this. The Queen and many (not all though) are behind this push and will make utter fools of themselves at the convention. Just remember, if Hillary runs at a later date, millions of voters will not support her for her antics and self-serving interests. Ya, she can keep those 18 million voters but it won't get her elected. Too many other Americans will remember. What she says at the convention and how she says it (sincerely instead of just mouthing things) as well as whether she tells her delegates to vote Obama will decide any future she may have in this country. In the meantime, if Clinton supporters continue to be attached to her pant suit and vote McCain then let them do so. Foolish people!! No, not foolish simply dumb!!

Mike from DE   August 24th, 2008 5:33 pm ET

OBAMA IS AWSOME! GO OBAMA! HEEL THE PARTY!!!!!

OBAMA IS GOING TO WIN THIS NOMINATION BECAUSE HELL BRING CHANGE!!!! ITS A SHAME THAT SO MANY PEOPLE ARE TOO RACIST TO VOTE FOR OBAMA! ALMOST HALF THE COUNTRY IS A BUNCH OF RACISTS!!!

HILLARY SUPPORTERS WHO REFUSE TO VOTE FOR OBAMA ARE CLOSET RACISTS!!!! GET OVER IT!! THEYD PROBABLY VOTE FOR BUSH BECAUSE HES WHITE!!!!

GET OVER IT!

Sheri   August 24th, 2008 5:33 pm ET

These people here on this site are horrible. Just listen to them. It is really so sad, and scary. I believe the Hillary people would definitely MURDER someone. The worst I've seen. I can't believe it. HATE AND MURDER GO TOGETHER WITH EVERYTHING ELSE LOW DOWN!

Jack   August 24th, 2008 5:32 pm ET

I'm becoming more and more concerned now about a backhanded attempt by the Clintons to steal the nomination at the convention.

First, they agreed to allow Clinton's name to be entered "to recognize her achievement". Now they are restoring full votes to these states from their flawed elections, which Clinton won. People in those states were told their vote would not count. Who knows how many people did not vote because of that, or what the outcome of a "proper" vote would have been? You can not go back and fix those numbers or guess now.

Obama is the presumptive nominee. I think it needs to made explicitly clear that Hillary Clinton cannot get the nomintion now, no matter what.

Party Unity? My @ss.

Don Hiller   August 24th, 2008 5:32 pm ET

With all due apology to Yogi Berra, "It ain't over until the DNC clowns sing their "Swan Song'".

Mauri   August 24th, 2008 5:31 pm ET

Well, the Democrats have finally completed their dirty work. When the party officials met earlier and decided that Michigan and Florida finally would not be allowed to have their votes counted, the party was over for Hillary Clinton. She had tried and tried to have full voting rights restored to the two states. Obama and his backers, in turn, fought that tooth and nail. Now, that she's out of the picture, they've been restored full voting rights at the convention. This is identical to the dirty work done in Florida in 2000 following Gore's win there, and a "recount" gave it to George Bush. Only this time, it's the Democrats who are playing dirty, and I agree with other predictions that this is the kiss of death for them.

The voting public is sick of these under-the-table favorite games, and have already proved it. So It's not coincidental that Obama and Biden got only a 2-point gain at their joint-meeting in Springfield. That's just the beginning of a downward spiral. Too bad.

Panama City Fla   August 24th, 2008 5:31 pm ET

A little to late for my liking. The DNC and the Obama campaign didnt want my vote to count in the primaries, well they wont get it in the general election

Danny, Beijing   August 24th, 2008 5:29 pm ET

VOTE MCCAIN!!!

So the rest of the world can keep laughing at you!!!

Nick - Arlington, VA   August 24th, 2008 5:29 pm ET

ET August 24th, 2008 5:06 pm ET

James Carville you just lost my respect, I always thought you wanted honest gov.. If the votes are reinstated, Hillary wins, why cheat her out of it? Now we need to get rid of the DNC chairman.
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She will still lose...please get your facts straight....jesus.

NO MORE BUSH STUFF   August 24th, 2008 5:28 pm ET

NOT TO MENTION THAT SHE HAS A "CAMPAIGN FUNDS FRAUD CASE" UPCOMING IN CA.

grow up   August 24th, 2008 5:28 pm ET

You guys need to grow up. The main point that everyone is overlooking: Obama's name wasn't on the Michigan ticket. If it was, he probably wouldn't have won, but he would have gotten close to half of the delegates, which would still put him in the same position as he is in now - the delegate leader even including the undemocratic delegate counts in those two states. Furthermore, he's doing what any sane politician would do: push for the inclusion of these delegates since it won't hurt his lead and will not piss off Democrats in Florida and Michigan. He won fair and square. It seems that Hillary has drifted away from the first female president to the anti-black candidate for many of you closet racists.

Don Hiller   August 24th, 2008 5:27 pm ET

With all due apology to Yogi Berra, "It ain't over until the fat-head DNC clowns sing their "Swan Song'".

trouble97018   August 24th, 2008 5:27 pm ET

All of you whining Hillary people are resembling a whole bunch of two year olds who need a nap!

If you succeed in bringing down this party, get ready to lose Roe, and have a president that is a LOT further right than Cheney. But you idiots don't care! All you want to do is stomp your feet and throw your tantrum!

GROW UP!!!

returntocommonsense   August 24th, 2008 5:26 pm ET

Hold on now – if anyone is to blame it is the state Democratic party leaders. They were told not to move their primaries and they went ahead and did it anyway. For that – their delegates were stripped from them – and it should have remained that way. Period. If I was a in either Florida or Michigan I would be screaming for the state chairman's resignation.

This whole primary system has gotten way out of hand. What needs to happen is having a week long primary session for both parties everyone gets to vote within a few days of one another.

George Washington warned us that political parties were a bad thing – boy was he right.

Steve P   August 24th, 2008 5:26 pm ET

How anyone could honestly advocate voting for McCain when they are a Dem is beyond me. You Hillary supporters are like cult members. This has nothing to do with issues. Hillary has created a cult of personality and you lemmings are following her off the cliff.

Even if she were the nominee she wouldn't be able to win. If Obama loses and Hillary is the nominee in 2012 she will still love. Tell me which state she'll win that Gore and Kerry couldn't win? In fact, there are no states that Hillary would carry that Gore didn't carry...and he lost (in the EC).

I'd sit out rather than vote for Clinton.

Dave in Florida   August 24th, 2008 5:26 pm ET

Are they kidding? I am former Hillary supporter who will cast my vote for McCain.

NO MORE BUSH STUFF   August 24th, 2008 5:26 pm ET

Those dummies dont realize that the Hillary campaign was mismanaged and in debt. What part of "LOST" dont you understand. You keep wishing for the impossible and mad at other people when it doesnt happen. Go ahead and vote for McStupid and shut up with your lying.

SS   August 24th, 2008 5:26 pm ET

There names should not be added they didn't follow the rules but if it put a end to it fine.

There has been months of discard; It time to unity and put the Dems on a positive road.
Good Job Obama for picking Joe Biden. It now time for the supporters to do our job and take back the White House.

Troubadour   August 24th, 2008 5:25 pm ET

what about 18 millions supporters of Obama will not vote for Clinton in 2012. What are we doing shut up the DNC? It's crazy. What does it takes for Hillary supporters to understand that Obama win fair and square. Anything that happen to the DNC will be the Clinton's fault and the whole world knows it. What a shame.

JC, anytown, USA   August 24th, 2008 5:25 pm ET

Did anyone else detect an ominous tone when Griff wrote: "But you wont live long enough, to claim; Pelosi and other Democrats… This year 2008, Will Be always known as…. Hate! Hate! Hate! For the Dem's;
You'r Party as Folded, You just don't know it yet… Sucker's!"

That sounds like a dangerous and threatening statement. Did anyone at CNN notify the Secret Service?

laurie   August 24th, 2008 5:25 pm ET

Big Love...... and what say you about your darlin' dubya???

amy   August 24th, 2008 5:25 pm ET

I hope all the delegates vote for HILLARY. Barack didn't want these votes 2 months ago. The DNC is really is a piece of work. Wouldn't it be a real hoot if Hillary got the nomination she deserved.

Vincent VDW   August 24th, 2008 5:25 pm ET

Zionist Jews out of the White house.

linda from South Dakota   August 24th, 2008 5:24 pm ET

its time we move onward here, blogs are ok, vent what you will( i do),, but now its time for unity,, hillary lost,, lets put this behind us,,, sure florida and michigan broke the rules, but at least now,,, i say NOW,, americans can vote and hopefully it will al turn out normal,,, lets forgive and forget,, lifes too short to hang on to anger,,,, be proud of your country and represent it well,,, obama/binde08 and beyond

Carter Usm   August 24th, 2008 5:24 pm ET

CNN, why do you bother to print these comments. You should check where the comments actually come from. I bet my left arm that most of these "disgruntled democrats" who are going to vote for McCain or write in Hillary are republican campaigners being dishonest as always.

How could anyone who admires Hillary's political ideals be so stupid to vote for the very opposite of those ideals (i.e. McCain)

Tom   August 24th, 2008 5:23 pm ET

So.................Hillary now has the nomination, correct??? Finally, a candidate we can believe in!!!

S. Thomas   August 24th, 2008 5:22 pm ET

Barack Obama's name did not appear on the Michigan ballot and guess what, Hillary Clinton received more votes than Obama. A big win for Clinton!

If all the primaries were uncontested, she could have really shown the world how popular the Clinton machine is with voters.

Too bad elections involve competition.

laurie   August 24th, 2008 5:22 pm ET

James Carville..... Your post was beneath your position..... as your comments frequently have been.

THIS IS WRONG!   August 24th, 2008 5:22 pm ET

I AM SO MAD I CANNOT EVEN EXPRESS MY ANGER

WHAT A SLAP IN THE FACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gina   August 24th, 2008 5:21 pm ET

Wow! If this had happened earlier in the election Hillary would be the nominee. Hillary was denied her nomination by the biased one sided press coverage of the "soon to be KING O" and by her own party. I don't like McCain, but will vote for him as a vote against the biased media and election "fixing" by the DNC.....back room dirty politics that old Chicago was infamous for......

Michael   August 24th, 2008 5:21 pm ET

Don't be fooled HRC people in Michigan and Florida. Obama did not want your vote to count in the primary until now when it is too late to help Hillary! Now he is just trying to trick you into voting for him in November. He is no better than Bush, not as good as McCain.

HRC people in Michigan and Florida should all vote for McCain or stay home in November. I'm voting for McCain myself.

Renee'   August 24th, 2008 5:21 pm ET

I just love all this anger coming from the fake so called repubs. The real dems are to smart to keep falling for these negative comments about Obama. You

Chris   August 24th, 2008 5:21 pm ET

Linda wrote..Obama is a corrupt politician of the Chicago machine school. This is just the latest example.

Let me guess. Hillary and Bill are angels right. HAHAHAHAHHA.

tyshunn   August 24th, 2008 5:21 pm ET

what are you guys complaining about? isn't this what you wanted? they get a vote, and you guys still aren't satisfied.

lynn   August 24th, 2008 5:21 pm ET

why is CNN losing the "posts" that are in favor of Clinton. It has been obvious right from the start that they were pushing Obama but not only are by posts being "lost" but I have seen several others make remarks about their lost remarks and they seem to be the ones that are against OBAMA= why is that?

Osterreich-Ungarn   August 24th, 2008 5:20 pm ET

I guess this proves that democracies are completely divisive...just look at this blog...and you are all from the same political party (presumably)...I can't even imagine what sort of "dialogue" you would have with your opponents. So much for having good-old civic virtue.

Al   August 24th, 2008 5:20 pm ET

Hillary Clinton ain't half bad. But her whiny and abrasive supporters sure make her look bad.

Soldier for OBAMA   August 24th, 2008 5:20 pm ET

As a Military Active Soldier, OBAMA is Strong, full of INTEGRITY and stands on Principles. Me often make wise, prudent decisions that show he is a man of fortitude, character and modesty. The decision is a wise one and YES he will win Florida, Alaska, PA, MI, AK, MS, MN, WI, MT, ND and a few other states with a total 360 electoral votes or even 400. The popular vote he will win with 55%

Down with the DNC   August 24th, 2008 5:20 pm ET

Anyone else notice that our past few presidents had been drug users at some point?

I mean, if any of them had been caught they all could have had a felony – possibly prison time.

1 in 100 adults are in prison in this country (many of them drug users that were caught). Those that are caught are punished, jail, a criminal record, no tuition for school.. while others can be made president just because they weren't caught??? What a world we live in...

Mark, B'ham., Al.   August 24th, 2008 5:19 pm ET

With their liberal ideology of anything goes, it is not suprising the democrats could not uphold its rules as it hates to uphold the laws of this country, such as drug laws and immigration laws, and campaign finance laws. Their lawyers are really good at finding the loopholes.

Republican on the fence   August 24th, 2008 5:18 pm ET

The more I read about the people(PUMA) complaining about what has happened to Hillary. The more I agree with the statement earlier in John Mccain camp. The United States are a bunch of whiners. You have a chance to make history and possibly fixed the problem. You would rather lose an election because of your pride. I don't know who is ready to lead this country, but I know who I don't want to hear from anymore is PUMA. I pray that you grown ups do not have kids that you are raising. You guys are an embarrasment to the American way. Grown men and women sounding like 12 yr old middle school kids at P. E. Please grow up at least for the future of our kids. God Bless.

ME IN FL   August 24th, 2008 5:18 pm ET

Mc Lame, if we don't make an impact , why are you addressing us??? Doesn't make sense does it, to talk about us if we don't matter. Now, I can see why you are for Obama..........just words............

Axl, why would HRC cost OBAMA the election??? Why blame her??? He will loose because of himself, what he is and what he represents, incompetence, lack of judgement, flip-flopping , inexperience, lack of leadership, just to name a few.................the list is longer!!!!!!

I will not vote for NOBAMA because he is not a unifier, he divides to conquer.

I will write in HRC name or vote Mc Cain.

Marc PDX   August 24th, 2008 5:15 pm ET

Obama: Judgement ? ^ v ?

When you're brash enough to claim you have the best judgement of any of the candidates you're going out on a limb and it may stick with you for history.

Obama has clearly bungled how he has handled reconciling with Hillary after the primary – he has clearly snubbed her. And the 3am text message announcement of Biden as his running mate was an unnecessary swipe at Hillary and her "3am call" campaign comercial.

If Obama winds up losing to McCain it will go down as a huge MIS-judgement on Obama's part. And he'll be lumped in with people like Dukakis and Mondale. And his superior judgement claim will boomerang on him. Pretty poor judgement with Hillary and her supporters.

Jesse   August 24th, 2008 5:15 pm ET

Lets just hope the delegates are smart and go there with open eyes, and vote for Hillary. Then this arrogant "I am one of you" idiot can be humbled!!!!

Herman in LA   August 24th, 2008 5:15 pm ET

August 24th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

John

OBAMA IS SO FAKE!

hillary 2012

John, YOU ARE FAKE!

How about getting a life you post here all the time.

LT for Obama   August 24th, 2008 5:14 pm ET

All of your Hillary supporters are truly funny.

If the shoe would have been on the other foot, you would not be crying foul right now, you would be pushing to not seat the delegates.

As far as I am concerned, they should be seated as there were supposed to with half votes.

As for those of you who keep going on and on about her winning FL and MI outright, the truth is is that that is one of the biggest falsehoods you have been spewing for months now.

Obama did not campaign in either state and he was not on the ballot in MI. Therefore, if neither candidate were able to make there case in these states, then it is not a fair vote. The people of these states were for the most part left out of the full process of making an informed decision. Grow up and start acting like you care more about what is going to happen to this country instead of your perceived injustices that don't exist.

DCMata   August 24th, 2008 5:14 pm ET

The group who claim to be Hillary supporters & anti Obama- are damaging her and the Clinton name. We no longer support her.

As past supporters of the Clintons, we now want them and their Republican supporters to- GO AWAY!!!

Pat   August 24th, 2008 5:14 pm ET

WHY would the DNC even think of doing this now? Are they for real?
When the votes really would have counted they wouldn't even bat an eye and now that the election is all said and done they want to make it right by turning the country upside down again! It's too late to undo what was done the Election is Over or didn't you notice? The only words I can think of right now befitting of the DNC is GET THERAPY Immediately!

Ecor   August 24th, 2008 5:14 pm ET

Sure, you posted my wrong "pasted" personal message. How about this one? BTW, I agree (for once) with James Carville.

With all due apology to Yogi Berra, "It ain't over until the fat-head DNC clowns sing their "Swan Song'".

Tim, mississippi   August 24th, 2008 5:13 pm ET

for whatever excuse, the neo-cons in the DNC will never vote for anyone who is against the immoral war on Iraq.

they like their war-profiteering too much to give up on killing and stealing, here and abroad, at any cost.

money and power anyway possible: that's their modus operandi.

Melissa, MI   August 24th, 2008 5:13 pm ET

The only people that this should matter to is people in Michigan and Florida. Everyone else is just using this for their personal gain. My voting rights are for me not for outsiders to use for complaining leverage.

GF   August 24th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

Seriously PUMA's.....Hillary doesn't need you to WRITE-IN HER NAME, she needs you to WRITE HER A CHECK. Haven't you heard ? She needs the cash a hell of a lot more than she needs the whining of uneducated diva worshippers and racist poseurs.
Simply put...sit this one out if you must or even vote McCain...but FIRST, send her a little change....then, pray to whomever it is you pray to that millions like me have forgiven all of you by 2012.

OBAMA-BIDEN'08

.....and Obama bin-Biden?? Thats, um, very clever.....I mean stupid.

the Head   August 24th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

Still whining over something that no longer matters!! Go ahead and seat them now...they are meaningless! Get over it and move on!!

RJ   August 24th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

If the Clinton racists sabotage the election nobody is going to vote for Clinton in 2012. Also, if you live in a red state and vote for McCain, your vote is basically worthless.

Michigan Independent   August 24th, 2008 5:10 pm ET

She lost the primary...end of story...in the good ol' USA!

Mike from DE   August 24th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

OBAMA IS AWSOME! GO OBAMA! HEEL THE PARTY!!!!!

OBAMA IS GOING TO WIN THIS NOMINATION BECAUSE HELL BRING CHANGE!!!! ITS A SHAME THAT SO MANY PEOPLE ARE TOO RACIST TO VOTE FOR OBAMA! ALMOST HALF THE COUNTRY IS A BUNCH OF RACISTS!!!

HILLARY SUPPORTERS WHO REFUSE TO VOTE FOR OBAMA ARE CLOSET RACISTS!!!! GET OVER IT!! THEYD PROBABLY VOTE FOR BUSH BECAUSE HES WHITE!!!!

Dan, TX   August 24th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

I see a lot of people here who don't have the faintest clue about what they are saying. But, at least they are venting their emotions. How nice for them.

Closely Watching   August 24th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

Ummm, keep in mind that Senator Clinton was all for punishing MI and FLA up until she started to lose. It was only then that she began her transparent call for the votes to count. Are you Hillary supporters really this blind or did you all just drop out of school in the 8th grade? This move now is not for Obama's benefit, he will be the nominee with or without the delegates...it is a move to unify the party. Quit piddling in your diapers and get with the program.

E>Dozois   August 24th, 2008 5:08 pm ET

Finally, it means Hillary will win .

Smithers   August 24th, 2008 5:08 pm ET

Im not voting for BHO or McCain. Im moving for Ronald Mcdonald.

If we're going to have a clown in office, lets at least have a professional one.

JC   August 24th, 2008 5:08 pm ET

Too little too late DNC

Jin   August 24th, 2008 5:08 pm ET

Hey! What in the world is going on! Obama is only the presumptive nominee. He has not been elected. So why has he decided to change the rules. Because he has a sollipsistic and egotistical view of the world. Look out folks. This guy is disaster!

conservative   August 24th, 2008 5:07 pm ET

Well there goes a week of TV ruined ! Denver better get all those electric ganerating wind mills pointed the other way as the hot air will over load all their circuits !!

an independent   August 24th, 2008 5:07 pm ET

pumas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. go away. you, people are pathetic. the clintons dinasty is over.

ET   August 24th, 2008 5:06 pm ET

James Carville you just lost my respect, I always thought you wanted honest gov.. If the votes are reinstated, Hillary wins, why cheat her out of it? Now we need to get rid of the DNC chairman.

K   August 24th, 2008 5:06 pm ET

HILLARY WONT WALK AWAY WITH THE NOMINATIOIN?! LMAO

ITS ALL BEEN PLANNED OUT SO THAT CERTAIN DELEGATES VOTE FOR HILLARY, AND CERTAIN DELEGATES VOTE FOR OBAMA.

EVEN IFF ALL YOU PUMA'S AND WOT-NOTS VOTE FOR MCCAIN, THAT STILL WONT BE ENOUGH FOR AN UPSET.

YOUR OWN ARROGANCE IS BLINDING YOU FROM REALITY. THE SAME THING TOPPLED HRC'S CAMPAIGN. GET OVER IT. GET REAL. GET OUT OF POLITICS YOU FAKES!

DCMata   August 24th, 2008 5:05 pm ET

Look forward to a convention that will give us the best possible chance of defeating Republicans & electing Democrats!

Turning off any programing giving the so called Clinton supporters against Obama and the party- ANYMORE platforms. These people are not Democrats!!

We hold the Clintons responsible for any voice this group has- counter to the party's best interest.

gm   August 24th, 2008 5:05 pm ET

This sounds like everything that has occurred by the current administration. DO WHAT YOU WANT WITHOUT HAVING ANY CONSEQUENCES.

Dori in AZ   August 24th, 2008 5:05 pm ET

Why bother to have rules if, given enough pressure, you aren't going to enforce them? What an azzkissing system the DNC has created! I suspect a castration or two here, as well....

Singh is King   August 24th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

I dont see why everybody is why everybody is Hillary 2012. I mean Obama could get elected and it wont be Hillary until 2016

Clinton Supporter   August 24th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

Tops in the WHO CARES Department.

Now that Obama is safely past Clinton, he backs away from his insistence that we not count all those votes.

What a phony!!

I can't wait to vote for McCain!!!

Lisa   August 24th, 2008 5:03 pm ET

Stop blaming Clinton because some of her supporters don't like Obama- hey, there's plenty of hate being spewed by Obama supporters (see above comments), and they talk about hate from her supporters. Problem is Obama can't win without her supporters, and berating these people will not change the math, nor will it gain their votes. Try offering the olive branch if you really want Obama to win. By the way, as a Floridian, this move is too little , too late, too convenient.

DanFango   August 24th, 2008 5:03 pm ET

I will say that when Democrats set up their circular firing squad, it's truly amazing how each one of them thinks they're going to be the one left standing.
The economy is circling the drain, we're facing the possibility of Bush to the third power, and all you PUMAS can focus on is Obama's middle name

You guys deserve your own country, with Dick Cheney as President for Life!

Marj,Paso Robles, Cal   August 24th, 2008 5:03 pm ET

Now, this is change I can believe in!!!

Tina   August 24th, 2008 5:00 pm ET

As a Hillary supporter, I'm in peace. I'll vote for McCain.

young   August 24th, 2008 5:00 pm ET

it is a joke. why it doesn't come early. the Obama is really a typical politician! shame on him.

TEXAS   August 24th, 2008 4:59 pm ET

I really am trying to understand why everything has been put on Obama's shoulders.
1) Hillary lost, Obama won. Why are we still talking about this?
2) Hillary said damaging words about Obama during the primary which are being used against Obama right now by the Republicans. He did not discredit her. So she should be the one to fix it. And people are wondering why the polls are so close.
3) This has been Obama's message from Day 1 - Change. If Hillary's supporters do not want to vote for Obama, then they are not true democrats. This is more about racism than anything else, but no one wants to admit that. They are using words like inexperience. Where did Hillary acquire so much experience? Being First Lady doesn't count. What experience did Bush have? Or Bill Clinton for that matter? Biden has experience.
4) Their plans were very similar except for heath care. What's left - RACE!
5) Commentators keep asking why hasn't Obama shown Hillary more respect. Why does he need to?

This is crazy!

Jo   August 24th, 2008 4:59 pm ET

I understand restoring Florida's delegates, but Michigan's too? How is it fair to give delegates to Clinton that Obama had no chance of earning, as his name was not on the ballot? It just doesn't make sense to me...

mama4obama   August 24th, 2008 4:57 pm ET

What a bunch of crap. This whole thing had nothing to do wtih Hillary or Barack Obama. It had everything to do with those running the party in those two states. It is clear to me, however, that some people just cannot get this through thier thick heads. There are rules set in place for a reason. The only reason this became a problem is because Hillary realized she was screwed. Then all of the sudden she wanted to go back to counting "every" vote. Its over people. Time to move on and get this thing done...unless of course you enjoy paying $4/gallon for gas and skyrocketing living costs.

nobama   August 24th, 2008 4:57 pm ET

I'm a Hilary/McCain supporter, but you, pissedinminnesota, are an idiot. You don't know what a neocon is. John McCain is a neocon (and good!) supporting the invasion of states that don't like us. Hilary might be, if she kept her promise to wipe Iran off the face if the map. Look it up on wikipedia, dude.

Invade Iran! McCain 08/Hilary 12.

Tony   August 24th, 2008 4:54 pm ET

How interesting......

We will all wonder if the DNC had made this decision earlier, Hillary might be accepting the nomination. This goes to show that the DNC is not for the people and all Hillary voters should now recognize the FIX was in.

Either you count them when they were cast or don't allow them at all. This should be a note to all Hillary votersand Hillary herself, Bill and other supporters you should be fighting mad!!! The DNC ahs no credibilty.

NOBAMA is a NOVELTY being used by the Left. He would sell out his grandmother to be President.... OH WAIT -- He did. See what I mean.

Michiel W   August 24th, 2008 4:54 pm ET

Hypocrites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The DNC, Senator Obama, Donna Brazile, Howard Dean, et al. This is just another example of the very un-democratic actions of the party who call themselves Democratic!
This is just confirmation of the reason I left the Democratic party after 40 years and became an independent. The two party system in this country should really come to an end. Both parties are full of nothing but corrupt and greedy power seekers. Just my opinion and as far as I know, this is still a free country, at least for the time being!

Anyone but these 2   August 24th, 2008 4:53 pm ET

I've found that a high percentage of my posts are rejected when I mention any third party or independent candidate, but my posts regarding Obama and McCain almost always make it to the board. It's really sad that the media refuses to show us our other options, especially in these times of crisis.

lanny   August 24th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

First of all dean and the dnc should have left this alone from day one.
The republicons started this whole mess so why even punish mich
or fla. Then when they hammered out the deal to count half of there
vote remember what donna brazile said "the rules are the rules". Well
if that was the case they should have stuck to the rules from day one.
Dean should have punished all the states that moved there primaries
up to an earlier date that violated the rules. But they didnt. So much for the rules. We need new leadership in the dnc a.s.a.p. Dean and brazile need to resign (that would be a good place to start). Now as far as obama picking biden. I dont think obama really wants to win
in novemeber. He would have picked hillary if he really wanted to win.
When hillary dropped out of the race obama should have been there
with her. He should have picked her right then and there to be his running mate. Brought his and her supporters onboard to unite the party. Then go after mccain. But so much for party unity. By snubbing clinton he just handed mccain the election.

Clinton Fringer   August 24th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

Any Obama supporter who can't see this for what it is needs to reconsider why they are voting for him. Let me add that you all deserve exactly what you will get, yet sadly it might be too late before you realize it.

One old white woman for Obama '08   August 24th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

Griff, you sound mentally disturbed. Seek help.

To Sherry, Joe, Jimmy, & Sidney: It is bad manners to shout. Please lower your voices.

To those of you who verbally slap Barack by calling him "egotistical, arrogant, elitist", why don't you just be honest and tell him you think he should "sit in the back of the bus"?

timber (ex dem)   August 24th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

What corruption! Give them their full rights when it no longer counts! This "New" democratic party is really something, huh? Pull strings, change rules when it suits, give primary votes won by one candidate to the other, anything goes!! I KNOW the american people are not stupid enough to fall for this. I would rather vote McCain than for this corrupt campaign.

tad   August 24th, 2008 4:50 pm ET

People on here are crazy. Calm down. If you believe in what the democrats believe then vote Barack, if you don't vote McCain. To much hate in this election already.

Bigmarty55   August 24th, 2008 4:50 pm ET

It's already starting, and the Dem Convention has yet to begin! What's already starting? C'mon, can anyone asking themselves that question be serious?

To state the obvious, Hillary is going to try to steal the nomination away from Obama-this is the first step. Obama, at least for this initial onslaught, can partially blame himself, because he apparently agreed to this resolution, probably thinking he was doing a good thing for party unity. Naive, and wrong!

If I'm right-not a given, but likely-we learn some things, and have other things reinforced for us, lest we forget. We learn that Obama is a political neophyte who does not know how to play the dirty game that is National Politics-R or D. Nice guys (whether they're qualified or not) finish last. We also learn where the true "Heart" of the DNC is. Anyone surprised?

What is reinforced for us is that "Billary" controls the DNC, that the DNC will do everything that it can to insure another Clinton Whitehouse, and that both of them-BOTH Clintons--are among the most self-absorbed, me first, Machiavellian, sly, conceited, manipulative, carpet bagging intellectual carneys and cheats in the history of American Politics.

This is the one year where the Ds could have nominated a male, mainstream, idiot whose platform could have been, "I'm not George Bush, and I am a Democrat", and won by a landslide! Instead, they fool around with a Black, quasi- Moslem with no experience (none), and a strident Witch. Stupid!!!!!

This is going to get ugly at the convention-wait and see. You heard it here first, and I can't wait.

Martin

Big Love   August 24th, 2008 4:49 pm ET

I don't feel that Obama, who has openly admitted to doing drugs (marijauana, cocaine and possibly heroin) can even stand on a moral high-ground and tell our youth that drugs are bad. Furthermore, I feel that Obama would be a hypocrit in the White House, how can our nation enforce our own drug laws with a straight face while an admitted chain-smoking drug user becomes president? Not with my vote.

x puma   August 24th, 2008 4:49 pm ET

I respect Hillary as a Human being. its time to move beyond the hate.
i rather vote vote Obama then Mccain who has always belittled women.i will respect Hilary's views by voting for Obama and a good Catholic man Biden.

Defeat the Pro War party , no McCain

Big Love   August 24th, 2008 4:49 pm ET

I still get email from Hillary's campaign asking for money... its sad... she tried very hard and dipped into her pocket bigtime, and I hope that she does get the nomination, because I feel that she is a MUCH better choice then Obama. She didn't have a personal financier named "OPRAH", so I can only hope she does well.

If she doesn't get the nomination, I will be voting for McCain instead of Obama.

I don't feel that Obama, who has openly admitted to doing drugs (marijauana, cocaine and possibly heroin) can even stand on a moral high-ground and tell our youth that drugs are bad. Furthermore, I feel that Obama would be a hypocrit in the White House, how can our nation enforce our own drug laws with a straight face while an admitted chain-smoking drug user becomes president? Not with my vote.

Tiffany   August 24th, 2008 4:48 pm ET

Talk about B.S. If they were so interested in party unity, the rules committee would have done this to begin with instead of using the so-called rules to GIVE the nomination to Obama. This is just one more insult to our intelligence.

Breaking News   August 24th, 2008 4:48 pm ET

Why now?
For what?

This is the "CHANGE" Obama offers.

I am happy that I am not American.
Good luck, America.

Speider   August 24th, 2008 4:48 pm ET

If I remember correctly, and I do, all candidates agreed not to put their names on the ballot in those two states when the states broke the DNC rules and held their primaries out of turn. Senator Clinton then placed her name on the ballot (the only democratic name) and when the states were removed from the count, she rallied to have the votes count, for her, naturally.

It's like a runner who's told the race won't start until the field events are over, but takes off and declares victory and a gold medal as they cross the finish line while the other contestants await the proper start from officials. Is that a clear enough analogy?

Florida and Michigan made a decision to go against party rules and were disqualified. They knew it might happen, gambled and lost. Everyone who thinks they should be seated, please explain to my children how one does not have to be responsible for one's own choices and actions when the rules are broken. I believe that's called anarchy.

Andrew (Toronto, Ontario)   August 24th, 2008 4:47 pm ET

Great message to send to the youner generation, cheaters always prosper!

ellen   August 24th, 2008 4:47 pm ET

What goes around – comes around – especially this November DNC – this guy can't even unify his own party – what a piece of work!!!

the truth   August 24th, 2008 4:47 pm ET

The DNC should have stuck by it's original rules regarding MI and FL. This just proves rules are made to be broken and changing the rules in the middle of the game is fair in Politics. Cheaters!!!

Ndalio   August 24th, 2008 4:46 pm ET

Obama / Biden 08 / 12

Clinton secretary of state

dennis from chicago   August 24th, 2008 4:46 pm ET

check it out/ obama crimes.com full votes restored no more half people...TOO LATE IT DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE....JUST LIKE EDWARDS IT'S ALL OVER THE HILL....///

Cherie4Obama   August 24th, 2008 4:46 pm ET

Obama's campaign did NOT do anything to Florida and Michigans voters, their elected party officals are to blame. And Hilary supported the decision for their votes not to count because they broke the rules. Why do her supporters seem to forget that? I see nothing will make you happy accept Hilary accepting the nomination next week, and that isn't going to happen.

Obama 08

Sebastian   August 24th, 2008 4:45 pm ET

If Michigan & Florida had followed the rules and there would have been order.

Selfish, arrogant & self serving for those states to move themselves up in the order. Not the way to go about it.

Whatever this latest twist is, it better nor encourage other states to violate the rules ... we don't need any more of this crud.

beth   August 24th, 2008 4:45 pm ET

If they did this in the beginning Hillary would be the nominee! This makes me SICK!!!
NOBAMA

Danny   August 24th, 2008 4:44 pm ET

How convenient. I'm a democrat, but I think Obama should be careful. He's starting to come off a lot more conventional than he claims he is. Actions speak louder than words.

Wilson   August 24th, 2008 4:44 pm ET

When the election is over and all is said and done, it may be hard for this country to consider another woman as a serious continder for president. For if we are judged by our actions...whinning...I'm not voting if I don't have my way....etc... it will be a long time before a woman may be considered again.

tedious898   August 24th, 2008 4:44 pm ET

Hillary supporters...news flash! SHE'S OUT OF THE RACE. What do you want us to do? Elect John McCain because all your little panties are in a wade? "Politics are a contact sport" (Bill Clinton said that)....If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen (Hillary said that).

On both notes Barack beat Hillary fair and square. She went broke because some of her votes were "operation chaos" We're not going to elect McCain just because you're crying in your fruit loops.

McCain's almost dead.   August 24th, 2008 4:44 pm ET

FAKE DEMS ON THIS BLOG, YOUR REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY IS SO TOO TRANSLUCENT.

MC LAME   August 24th, 2008 4:44 pm ET

Stephen Colbert said it best.

No matter who wins the nomination, he is sure Hillary Clinton will burst from their chest like the creature in Alien and grab the microphone from the winner.

Richard, FL   August 24th, 2008 4:44 pm ET

Hillary says she "hopes and prays" that her supporters will support Obama. Her so-called supporters saying they will vote for McCain obviously didn't trust her judgment at all or else they were Republicans all along.

Hillary Clinton   August 24th, 2008 4:43 pm ET

Is Obama eligible to run for president based on citizenship laws?

James Carville   August 24th, 2008 4:43 pm ET

This is very demeaning to FL and MI. DNC is rubbing salt on their wounds now.

Never mind folks, let us just move on.
All Obamabots have been chanting and begging to "move on".
So, Let us forget it. Let us move on.
Let us come out to vote only after four years.
Until then, let us forget and forgive.

Peace.

bob in LA   August 24th, 2008 4:43 pm ET

Sherry in Atlanta
America is made up of laws, not rules. Political parties are made up of voters. No voter in Michigan or Florida decided to change the dates and these people were not given an option on how their vote or when their vote would be cast.
Don't penalize voters for a few overzealous egos that wanted to be more importnat than the process.

MC LAME   August 24th, 2008 4:43 pm ET

FLORIDA, has a long long history of incompetence in the realm of voting machines and voting in general.

Florida, you are America's Nursing Home.

you all have YEARS to make an impact on our electoral process.

Please focus on your Blue Plate Specials and Viagra, and stay out of politics.

Linda   August 24th, 2008 4:41 pm ET

This will restore unity? I don't think so. I have been a Democrat my entire life- until this year. I am now an Independent. The Democrat leaders are completely corrupt. Obama is a corrupt politician of the Chicago machine school. This is just the latest example.

pissedinminnesota   August 24th, 2008 4:41 pm ET

CNN is simply the front for the NEO-CONs in the democratic party.

the are the most insincere immoral opportunists.

Freedwoman   August 24th, 2008 4:41 pm ET

Hillary won MI & FL fairly & squarely. She followed the rules, did not campaign there. Still millions of voters came out & voted for her.
How reaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllly convenient now that Obambi thinks he has the nomination, MI & FL will be restored.
The DNC, Obambi & the Dems absolutley are hypocrites, back-room dirty pols that deserve no respect.
PUMA Hillary should be the true nominee. If she is not, then November is going to McCain! Barack is a sleazy amateur and not POTUS material - thats the real question and the answer is NOOOOOOOOOBAMA! Biden is irrelevant.

aware   August 24th, 2008 4:40 pm ET

I'll be happy when Obama loses! :)

Don't waste your vote! Vote for McCain 08 and Hillary Clinton 2012! :)

Ester Raqmirez   August 24th, 2008 4:40 pm ET

If Michigan and Florida have their delegates counted. then they should go to Hillary as she won both populat vote. I still know deep in my heart that Hillary will be the one to beat McCain. I ,for one will not vote for Obama I would rather see MCain as President then Obama. I have learned many Clinton supporters are also going with McCain Now, more then ever as he completely ignored Hillary.

Sylvia Johnsen   August 24th, 2008 4:40 pm ET

Is Obama giving back the 4 delegates from Michigan that he took from Clinton even though she'd won them in ther primaries... and what about the 43 delegates of uncommitted he was awarded for no particular reason by the Rules Committee?

I guess it doesn't matter... now. Scorn the superdelegates who does their job, exercise judgement as the rules requires and vote for Clinton instead of Obama on the roll call.

Simba from Toronto,canada   August 24th, 2008 4:40 pm ET

The law was made to be broken, then punish those who break the law. The justice system is very smart.........because it is aware that people will break the law,then they will be punished.
That's what happened to Florida and Michigan. They have served their sentence, so it is time for clemency and forgiveness. No body is above the law; the rule is the rule, as simple as that. The two states have learned the lesson.
THERE IS ONLY ONEWAY TO LEARN A LESSON: THE EASY WAY OR THE HARD WAY, CAN'T BE BOTH.

Jean   August 24th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

Either way, you americans are divided. You know why?
You are in war you should not be in..... in a country you are not welcome : Irak ! you always lose: Vietnam is a good example
One Party,:Democrat wants to heal and you can't accept because... unacquaintedness and fear are bad advisers. Common Sense!

Bill   August 24th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

The good ol' DNC really has it together, now. They should keep a platoon of foot doctors on staff who specialize in treating self-inflicted gunshot wounds.

aware   August 24th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

No unity bid here. This was the plan all along as soon as Hillary was out of the picture! forget it democrats – you are toast! :(

Hillary Clinton and John McCain are moderates! Obama is a far left-wing liberal with far out policies that will spell disaster America.

Don't waste your vote! Vote for McCain 08 and Hillary Clinton 2012! :)

New Day   August 24th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

Typical! Rules are broken without consequence to favor them and those PUMA idiots are STILL complaining. So whats next? Do we only count the votes that THEY feel is important? Florida and Michigan shouldn't have counted as Hillary said herself. Well PUMA, Hillary wont ever be president. Either she helps Obama get elected or she may as well run for the Legalize Pot Party in '12.

rgn,texas   August 24th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

move on to other important topics,this bitter whining is very very boring and old!!!! snore snore snore

bob in LA   August 24th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

In another desperate bid to try and convince the Hillary camp to unite, NOW the Democrats want to seat the full delegations of Florida and Michigan. Aren't they wonderful?
This party is a joke. Their presumptive candidate is a joke and the DNC is run by a clown.
I still love Hillary and the only smart move made by Obama in 3 months is Biden. Unity?
I'm smarter than that!
PUMA

JK Ashburn, VA   August 24th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

There goes the DNC's credibility when they start making rules for 2012. Who's going to pay attention to them in the future? Prediction: Some states will move their primaries and caucuses even earlier - Thanksgiving 2011. What a mess!

pissedinminnesota   August 24th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

this simply proves that the neo-cons rule the democratic party, as well as the republican party.

Lou R   August 24th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

Even before he convention formally begins, the DNC is off to a very good start in recognizing a full delegation count from both Michigan and Florida. All actions related to the Michigan and Florida delegate issue followed a democratic decision making process. The presumptive candidate has done his par with an excellent choice of Joe Biden at the VP candidate. How refreshing to see a democratic process working. Take note Republicans, there is another way then White house scorching the Earth power actions.

Simba from Toronto,canada   August 24th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

The law was made to be broken, then punish those who break the law. The justice system is very smart.........because it is aware that people will break the law,then they will be punished.
That's what happened to Florida and Michigan. They have served their sentence, so it is time for clemency and forgiveness. No body is above the law; the rule is the rule, as simple as that. The two states have learned the lesson.
THE IS ONLY ONEWAY TO LEARN A LESSON: THE EASY WAY OR THE HARD WAY, CAN'T BE BOTH.

John   August 24th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

OBAMA IS SO FAKE!

hillary 2012

pim   August 24th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

I don't see what the problem is. They broke the rules in the primaries, so their votes weren't counted then. The primaries are over now, so there's no reason to keep excluding those states. In fact, to do so would be rather un-democratic.

lucy   August 24th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

Hillary supporters,
Go ahead, vote for McCain who protects rich and powerful. You were never a true Democrat in first place.

Dan (Redmond, WA)   August 24th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

Sure, go ahead. Hand another election to the GOP. I will NOT have that on my conscience.
If the ardent Hillary supporters are so hell-bent on voting for McCain, do it! See what happens. I will blame YOU for 4 more years of this garbage just like I hold every Bush voter responsible for the last 8.

McBush - McLies - McElitist - McWorldWar 3   August 24th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

I was and still am a Hillary Supporter!

I have to common sense to swallow my pride and vote for Obama!!

Do the same.................please

Sue   August 24th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

Do they really think the American people are that stupid? Like someone else said, Obama fought tooth and nail to keep FL and MI votes out of the primaries (even getting his lawyers involved) all on the premise of "following the rules". The DNC obliged him by allowing half votes and even giving him delegates he didn't earn. NOW they want to give full votes because Obama wants it that way? I don't think so. This has been the sleaziest election cycle I can ever remember.

Eileen from Maine   August 24th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

I think Hillary Clinton should just be awarded the Presidency. She has been planning on this for years. And she and her campaing put out a 20 page memo to the press explaining why she was the inevitable nominee and the press obliged her by telling us all over and over that HILLARY WAS THE ONE.
Bill also misses the white house. Some of his best times were held there.
How was she supposed to know that she would need the votes from Florida and Michigan when she signed the pledge and agreed the votes would not count for anything? It wasn't fair that Obama wouldn't lie down for her and let them change that ruling when she found out there was no possible way for her to win without them.

The people that voted for Hillary want her in. It doesn't matter that the people who voted for Obama feel just as strongly. They do not matter. The only thing that matters is that Hillary gets her due.
Sure, it is well documented how she wildly mismanaged her campaign along with a quarter of a billion dollars of her supporters funds. We've had somebody in office who doesn't think and plan ahead for the past 7 years. That hasn't hurt us any, has it?

gr.grandma   August 24th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

NOW they are giving full count to citizens in Florida and Michigan after the damage is done!! Have been voting as a Democrat since FDR.
(Wanna' take a bet on how many of Obama's voters know who that is?). I have never been able to figure how "ranting Dean" was able to become the "lead dog" in the DNC. And then we have another that is quite adept in giving "back handed" compliments while doing her part in using her power against the most capable (in many, many,
many voter's minds). Oh, we still have the allegedly intelligent super delegates who one by one buckled instead of staying the route.

Does my anger show? Well, it will on election day--there will be a
new Republican voting for a candidate younger then herself.

Ric   August 24th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

Hillary wins?
For a party that's is about fairness and equality, the DNC is acting like that bully in third grade that kept changing the rules in Monopoly.

Dealt   August 24th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

Great message... break the rules and get rewarded for that.

Michael   August 24th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

Yeah, after it is too late to help Hillary. I am going to show the DNC how I feel about their games. Come on McCain! Sometimes you have to suffer in order to teach schemers a lesson. There's got to be fair play.

Bag of Wind   August 24th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

Let's teach that arrogant, blowhard, bigmouth, hot-air-bag a lesson he'll never forget.
Vote or write in Hillary.

Tell Obama Hussein to leave his mobster Chicago politcs out of Washington DC. DC already has enough hot air.

And this country is already gagging over Obama's arrogance.

Mad   August 24th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

Hillary- you stood for the old good Democratic party-
Obama speaks for the power hungry fools (Pelosi, Dean, etc.)

Axl   August 24th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

Very simple.

There was a contest with a clear set of rules that Obama played by and won. He is bending over backwards to accommodate people who are considering voting against their own self-interest to satisfy a grudge.

If Hillary doesn't toe the line and costs Obama the election through her maneuvering, she won't even be a viable candidate in 2012. She just wont because she'll be unacceptable to the 18 million people who put Obama over the top. Someone had to lose this contest and she lost fairly, by rules she agreed to. Get over it or vote for McCain.

Mad   August 24th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

This is so stupid- they are only this so they can get more votes from those states.
The reason the Clinton supporters are revolting is because their voices weren't heard in the primaries so they will be heard now!

wiser   August 24th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

Senator Obama's first decision was his vice president. Senator Obama blew his chance to unify the democrats.

If he can’t unify his own party, how can he hope to unify the nation?

Senator Obama is not experienced enough nor does he have the requisite judgment to lead this nation.

Democrats for McCain!

Jean   August 24th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

Why are all you Obama haters so nasty? Is it because you are sore losers and you can't find something good to say about your own candidate? Go home and quit whining.

Joe   August 24th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

Hey Jamil! You're a real winner! February was shortly after the primaries began! Way to show your edumacation!

Marge   August 24th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

miket August 24th, 2008 3:04 pm ET

How hypocritical!!!! When these votes would have mattered in the election process the Obama camp fought tooth and nail to keep them out. They hammered Michigan and Florida on not following the rules. I guess the rules aren't so important now that he needs their votes in the general election. This proves Obama is a veteran and typical Chicago politician. He will do anything and everything to win.
______________________________________________________
Hillary ONLY fought for these votes after she lost 11 contest in a row!!!
when the DNC (not obama) stripped these states of their votes...guess what???? Hillary agreed with the DNC!!!
NOW who's the hypocrite???/ We know who the uninformed is.....that's YOU!!!!

marianna   August 24th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

Waaay too early. An ideal date would be Nov.5 ;-)

Last Refuge of the Scoundrel   August 24th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

What in God's name is the use of having rules if they're not going to be enforced!!!!??? God I HATE these Clinton supporters!! Please please please vote Mccain you Republican lowlifes and NEVER call yourself a Democrat again. SWINE!!!!

Marie in California   August 24th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

Sounds like it's just a tad late for that! Obama is willing to give them full voting rights now that Hillary is no longer a threat to his coronation.

As for as I'm concerned, they can all kiss off!

Former lifelong Democrat.....now brand-new Republican for McCain!

NOBAMA!

Ecor   August 24th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

With all due apology to Yogi Berra, "It ain't over until the fat-head DNC clowns sing their "Swan Song'".

Susan   August 24th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

They should have been allowed to vote in the primaries. But the Democratic party said no.......which was not right.

Enough of the insanity   August 24th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

There is nothing Obama can do to please these bitter, devisive PUMA ( Reagan Dems ), so why bother. The best way we can help get Obama/Biden elected is to get out there and our support to good use. These bitter folks would rather spend all their time in here blogging about what is wrong with Dems and Obama. They are probably one paycheck away from being homeless and will still vote against their best interests. Poor souls, God bless them anyway.

Obama/Biden 08

Duop Wuol, Colorado Springs, Colorado   August 24th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

Good move.

Emma, San Jose, CA   August 24th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

Even if Hillary's votes would have been totally counted in Florida and Michigan, she would still be behind in delegates. Get your facts straight, please.

E.C.Coleman   August 24th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

Guess the Dems are aftraid they're going to lose. It was a stupid idea in the first place; it made no sense. That 'idea person' who wanted to censor the two states and sought to do so....... should be BARRED from the National Democratic Committee for LIFE! That idea was the MOST RIDICULOUS and STUPID IDEA EVER........

Daniel   August 24th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

I am a Democrat that hates the DNC. This is too little too late.

Can you imagine how they will run the country!

McCain 2008
Hillary 2012

Bryce   August 24th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

What people do not understand is that the delegate totals are not close. He is 305 delegates ahead, and without superdelegates he is 120 ahead. She got half the delegates from florida, so add 50 and add 35 for michigan. Now he is up 220 delegates. Only if super delegates were not included would it even be close.

Eric   August 24th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

McCain got my vote yesterday. With this the republicans may be getting a full bore convert. I've had enough and am ready to register as a republican.

Susan from Scotts Valley, CA   August 24th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

FYI everyone. Hillary didn't care about Michigan and Florida till she needed their votes. Don't lay this all on Obama. Hillary was playing politics just as much.

For all of you who are mad so are going to make sure McCain gets elected one way or another, it's not just Obama and the Democrats that you're punishing, it's the whole country. Don't be so selfish. My family and my business can't afford four more years of this.

OH MY!!!   August 24th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

To-Griff-Pelosi and other Democrats… This year 2008, Will Be always known as…. Hate! Hate! Hate! For the Dem's;
You'r Party as Folded, You just don't know it yet… Sucker's!
**What's with the name calling BRO ......you need to attend anger management (Hate! Hate! Hate! For the Dem's)It's All Politics don't stress out They will all be Friends laughing hugging and United in the End.......You My Friend will end up in the NUT HOUSE!!!!

tennisguypitt   August 24th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

Finally,those PUMA idiots should shut up now! They got what they want, now grow up and vote for Obama! They need to stop whining. I have seen 4th graders act better!

Obama/Biden '08

Gary (Bill) Bailey   August 24th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

BO is definitely for CHANGE and he changes every day......

Or should I say BA for Barack America and will that be changing the Senator's name of the countries name.

Sean   August 24th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

It's a regular Hillary Love Fest in here... You know you guys can support one person without being hateful to the other, right?

James From Chicago   August 24th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

If they count then Hillary gets the nimination.

Frances   August 24th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

That's really nice, Obama. I bet all your fans aren't going to talk about how the two states need to be penalized about breaking the rules since it's convenient for him. What freaking crap.

Griffin   August 24th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

I hope every single voter in those two states votes for McCain. I would actually have to laugh my @ss off, it would be so hilarious.

Ms. Vee   August 24th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

WOMEN.... Men & Republicans have always replied on your ability to be concentrate on the very small issue, HRC will not be president now 2012 or ever.

Most men & smart DEMS know this. They can depend that you will watch most women's rights go out the window, because your EGO is bruised. Let's see, take 2 steps forward and 10 steps backwards.

Say good-bye to Hillary and Hello to back alley ABORTIONS, Say Hello to the "poor soldiers" who will continue ANY war we can get involved in. Say Hello to the VETS new boss (J McCain), he promises to keep them active.

Let's not forget "its the economy stupid". McCain may have from 7-11 homes (he can't remember) however, you'll remember monthly. He wants to get rid of teachers and people who are deemed not to be good in their job ex. teachers (who's the judge on good/bad employees).

WOMEN..LOOK DEEP BEFORE YOU LEAP. Fight for a worthy cause Rush Limbaugh makes a fool of women regularly (remarks on Mrs. Edwards). McCain has no interest in having birth control paid by the insurance companies, yet VIAGRA is paid by them.

Let's show these boys we have indeed moved from the "Susie Homemaker Kichen" to the Board Room /Oval Office, and we have the ability to follow the rules that are established.

Clinton/McCain   August 24th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

How convienient. Maybe I will vote for Obama in the general after I've voted for McCain. Oh that's right you can only vote once. Oh well.

Raymond Duke   August 24th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

I knew this would happen. You noticed the Obama campagin and the Democrat leadership committee fought this with tooth and nail until they could eliminate Hillary Clinton and deny her the democrat nomination. Now they want to recognize all the delegates since they have got the nomination tied up for Obama. Never mind that both states was won by large margins for Hillary. Go ahead and join this farce of a nomination if you want to and vote for this man. Any Hillary Clinton supporter that votes for this selected nominee and the democrat leadership party needs to play the part of the fool. Surely if they do than they are the fools that Obama , his campagin and the democrat leadership party sees them as.

Russell   August 24th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

More kissing Clinton butt – enough already, she's not the queen!

Get Real   August 24th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

"THIS MESSAGE IS FOR HILLARY SUPPORTER ONLY"

How dare! you d__ people keep complaining. Florida and Michigan knew they were breaking the rules when they moved their primary up early....Hillary even admitted the states should be punished.

It was only after she realized that on "Super Tuesday" she was not going to lock up the race as she had planned...that she begin to complain...WELL let it be known.....SHE ,,,Hillary last lost the AFRICAN American community for ever...because of mess like this and her idiot husband, even if she ran in 2012....she will not get the AA votes in large numbers as did her husband. They have apparently forgotten that if not for the African American community...Bill Clinton would not have been re-eelcted his second term...

So you angry Hillary supporter.....go and vote for McCain....it's apparent that you're not concern about the state of this country, the ecomony, our boys and girls in harms way, people losing their homes....You're only concern about a WOMAN being elected president.....

GWW   August 24th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

Most unfortunately the Clintons never go away. They don't go home. They follow you home. When Hillary won the NY Senate seat she held her victory press conference at the same moment as her rival's concession speech - never allowing him to concede with dignity. When they left the White House they had a big deal rally in NY at the airport - not allowing the newly elected President to have the spotlight on his "first" day. Who is surprised by their behavior as they once again focus the light on themselves for this convention - which, by their very prominent presence, makes it a rerun. Tuned out.

brontebroussard   August 24th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

Obama, Dean, Pelosi: they can't even lead their party. How are they going to run the country?

GET REAL!!!!!!!!   August 24th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

OH MY GOD I AM SOO FURIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!1

BO IS A LIAR!!!

BO= L.I.A.R.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CNN PLEASE POST, I AM SO SO SOSOSOSOOS MAD

obama/not biden '08   August 24th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

good everyone should be heard.it wont help make up the numbers we'll lose when biden takes us to the low-road.

Task   August 24th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

It's just a pathetic attempt to pretend he actually cares about voter's rights. He was 100% behind the decision to disenfranchise voters in Michigan and Florida. He opposed every attempt to get them counted. Now that he needs those votes he's pertending he actually cares. What a hypocrite.

Dale   August 24th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

I guess this is another political ploy to keep hillary out of the race. Party unity everyone says, this is a slam to unity. Hillary , all i can say ma'am, stick in there . Like Mcain accused Obama for not selecting Hillary, i say "ditto" likewise to the DNC for this action. I just hope this next week goes smoothly for the clintons. If not everyone knows who to blame.........I really do not know how i will vote now – my party wants to be fair when it wants to i guss.

Tom in Delaware   August 24th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

Ahh...the icing on the cake. Now the door is open for any state to move up their primary election dates to get their self-entitled part of the cash prize that these contests have become. In trying to please everybody the Democrats have instead angered everyone.

I've never been a Hillary fan but WOW, what a double slap in the face this weekend. If those voted had been counted back at the end of last winter, the groundswell created would have turned the tide for her instead of Obama. This is turning into a real Greek tragedy, and it's going to carry over to the convention floor now for sure.

The best outcome for the Republicans would be...well...this is the best possible outcome. The only thing that could be worse is if Pee Wee Herman came forward to say that he had a secret affair with Barack right after the convention.

The McCain campaign would be guilty of malpractice to not have a field-day with this news!

Ginger, NY   August 24th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

OK-we can still nominate Hillary-let's go delegates!

Lisa   August 24th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Hillary 08!

William, from Cali!   August 24th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

More democRATic , "flop-flipping, flip-flop" !..............................nothing more, nothing less..........What's next?

Harriet   August 24th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

As a former Clinton supporter, I am still mad about this Michigan and Florida situation. I don't think giving them full votes would have helped Clinton win though. I will hold my nose and vote for Obama, because after all, he has good ideas and he supports my beliefs.

Dia Akin   August 24th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Let clear something up. She start pushing for full reinstatment when she realized that she needed them to win...NOT shortly after the primaries began.

Rules were broken people. If it was my way, their votes wouldnt count at all. You cant go against rules and then cry foul when you're penalized for it. NO other state over stepped their boundaries so why is MI and FL so special? And Im FROM Michigan!

With this logic, our judicial system would be worst than it is now. Inmates feeling like they're being wronged when they received their sentence for their crimes. She lost fair and square. ACCEPT it!

obama/not biden '08   August 24th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

good.hopefully we'll get a little more unity out of this, to make up for the huge loss we'll suffer for picking the low-road guy,biden.

Texico From Mexico   August 24th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

First of all people Michigan and Florida did NOT FOLLOW THE RULES that were in place! Don't blame the DNC or Obama! Blame your own states and take some respnsibility. The bottom line is half of these Hillary supportes are just pissed because she didnt win. I would bet you anthing that had the been fully seeded and she still lost there would just be another excuse out there. LISTEN UP ALL YOU PUMA, HILLARY SUPPORTERS....PLEASE GO VOTE FOR McCain! You are not Democrats anyway...Clinton will be how old in 4 years? What 65+ years old? Trust me, she had no shot this time and will have not shot in 2012! Do you know how hard it is to get an incumbent out of office? Hmmm....go back to Carter, because the ONLY reason Clinton beat Bush Sr. in 92 was because of Ross Perot! Wake up and let it go! You are either for getting rid of the current regime and the one that will look exactly the same or you are not.

Kim, Dallas, TX   August 24th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

These blogs sure give you an idea of how sick some people in our country really are. I will pray for the first entry who thinks hatred is rampant and implies killing will solve things. Geez, people on here are just downright scary.

I guess brainwashing plays a part in this; as I have always been in favor of Obama maybe I just don't get it. Or could it be that both of our sides just don't get it. Hillary's camp was so negative and divisive. Look at the hatred she has stirred up. Even though I really didn't care for her tactics I would have voted for her due to her similar Democratic views. Those of you who are so adamant to hold Obama responsible for everything that happened this election cycle need to evaluate what is most important to you. He had nothing to do with the voting, the way these two states defied the rules, and how the decision was finalized. He was not responsible for Hillary's failed financial and leadership campaign. He played by honest rules which Hillary tried to change every step of the way. It baffles me how you can hold him responsible for her failure as a leader. She couldn't even lead her own campaign.

Former Democrat from Florida   August 24th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

It is too late for me. I have become an Independent and McCain will get my, my sister, and my cousin's vote.

Lisa   August 24th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

Whiners,Whiners,Whiners grow up already. You all are little kids complaining all the time. Vote for McCrusty if you want, just do it, but please stop the crying and whining!!!!!!!!

brian   August 24th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

Hillary needs to leave the Democratic Party and become an Independent like Joe Liberman. The Party has already turned it's back on you, so get even!!!!!!!!!!

amanzi1   August 24th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

Hang on one sec. How can Michigan be fair in ANY way if Obama was not even on the ballot? How can you Clinton fanatics (now even to the point of now selling our country down the toilet), claim a state knowing BEFORE the primary that the vote would not count and KNOWING that Obama was not even on the ballot?
I voted for Hillary and I am sad she did not win, but Obama did and I will not sell out our rights or our children's future down the toilet just because the primary did not go the way I wanted. Clinton knew the primary rules but she did not have good support from her strategy team, that is all. She lost. She will be back, but not just yet,

Trang, Fremont, CA   August 24th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

Hey. Biden was great. But he couldn't pull in the people and the money.

Hillary was okay. But she couldn't pull in the money. She still cannot pull in the money.

Obama has the ground people and can pull in the money. It's the logical choice. He can be young, but he gets young people gets excited and engaged. He has local programs to teach young kids leadership skills, get reengaged w/ the local community. Now that he wins, he picks Biden, I think it's a great choice. Young kids, please if you have the time, participate in these local programs. Go on his website, participate, and be a leader in your local community. It's his gift, and he is sharing his gift with you. Be a community organizer.

jermey   August 24th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

This is what should happen at the convention.

1) Elected delegates vote (full votes to MI and FL)

2) superdelegates vote based on their constituents

Then see who the nominee is. None of this superdelegates pulling their weight. Otherwise it is nothing more than a coronation.

Kevin   August 24th, 2008 4:12 pm ET

What a sham

Draft Board Calling   August 24th, 2008 4:09 pm ET

Hello? My name is John McCain.

Dan, MA   August 24th, 2008 4:08 pm ET

This is just a gesture to shut up the people of these states. They broke the rules and should have been outright discounted, so they should have been happy to get half-votes. But the people of these two states weren't happy with that, and my guess is they'll always have something to complain about.

Rob   August 24th, 2008 4:08 pm ET

I wonder: when the diehard Obama haters get it through their heads - that Hillary Clinton agreed to strip these two states of their delegates last year until events proved she needed them? When will they stop painting her as some poor, helpless victim of the big, bad DNC? Hillary met the enemy, and it was her!

amanzi1   August 24th, 2008 4:07 pm ET

Congrats. Former democrat, I guess then you believe that women should not be allowed access to ANY form of birth control. that will be the reality by 2012. Also, that Pat Robertson and the rest of the cult will be choosing our judicial branch of the US. Perhaps that pleases you even more.

Alan   August 24th, 2008 4:07 pm ET

Sally stop whining would you please.

Anonymous   August 24th, 2008 4:07 pm ET

Hillary has done nothing but divided the party and all her supporters can't see that she wanted Fla. and Mich. to count when it was convenient for her. Now she wants someone to retire her debt. She should have bowed out like everyone else when she knew it wasn't possible for her to win. She is the real sore loser.She wanted to prove something and she did ,how divisive she can be if she doesn't get her way.

grrr   August 24th, 2008 4:07 pm ET

It never ceases to amaze me what one finds when rocks are turned over – as in the ulterior motive of some when to count and when not to count the wishes of constituents.

Republicans Unite!   August 24th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

I love you Democrats! What a bunch of squabbling, bickering teen-age girls. This is like campaigning against a bunch of high-school cliques. What a joke. We're laughing at you. That's why you will NEVER win. Republicans RULE FOREVER! Woohoo!

Will   August 24th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

a lot of reublican trolls on the boards today!

Nowhere Man   August 24th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

To the Idiotic DNC Committee -> So, what's the point of having any rules? How many times did we hear, they broke the rules, they broke the rules, THEY BROKE THE RULES! Now? Uh, nevermind. Certainly screwed up the whole primary process. Well done, you bunch of idiots, well done! With them included now, it'll be LOLF if Hillary now finds a way to steal it from Barack!

Lisa   August 24th, 2008 4:05 pm ET

Yeah after the DNC robbed Hillary of the nomination. Obama, Obama, Obama, this is a crook of all crooks. He fought hard not to include the Florida and Michigan vote. Now all of a sudden after he kicked Hillary out, disrespected her and Bill and think he's going to get our votes?

I would never vote for Obama, NEVER!!!

amanzi1   August 24th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

Griff, are you making threats on Obama's life? CNN moderator, can some one please report Griff to the FBI. Blog posts are easy to trace.

Brian   August 24th, 2008 4:04 pm ET

Darn it! Obama is making it hard for the PUMA;s to HATE him.

Who am I kidding, PUMA's are built on hate.

ABG   August 24th, 2008 4:03 pm ET

To All Delegates from Florida & Michigan:

Please vote at the convention for the candidate who actually won your states, Hillary Clinton.

What a sham convention! Questionable dealings at the caucuses and underhanded decisions by the DNC hijacked this nomination.

I hope all the delegates vote for the candidates that won their states, not the handpicked candidate by the Democratic party.

Linda of Atlanta   August 24th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

The Democrats should have followed the rules and kept Florida and MI at the half vote count. Democratic Republics can only function if rules are followed.

sidney nyc   August 24th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

CNN SUCKS MSNBC IS THE BEST HARDBALL IS COMING ON RIGHT NOW IF YOU WANT REAL NEWS TURN IT ON CNN SUCKS

THERE JUST LOOKING TO START FIGHTS

PUMA GO VOTE FOR MCAIN WE DONT CARE.

OBAMA 08

Jeffrey   August 24th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

Too little. Too late.

libs be dopes   August 24th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

The Dems can't seem to figure out how to run their Party............

yet they want to run the Country?

I seems rules only apply to those subject to the rulers, but not the rulers themselves.

Add one more ring to this mess and make it a three ring Democratic Party circus.

celia   August 24th, 2008 4:01 pm ET

100 % agree with Sally. Obama is looking more and more like George W. Bush, especially with picking an attack dog like Biden – Domocrats hated Cheney. I thought we were going to see CHANGE? Well it is the some old thing we are going to get with Obama – a kleptocrat!!!

jamie   August 24th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

Do we care?

Independent Thinker   August 24th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

The political leadership of Florida and Michigan knew the consequences of breaking the primary rules and chose to break them anyway, betting that the DNC wouldn't have the backbone to enforce these rules. Instead of accepting responsibility for their actions, the politicians in these two states successfully conned their constituents into thinking that the resulting disenfranchisement was the DNC's fault. How pathetic it is to watch the DNC cave-in to this pressure (liberalism at its worst). How sad it is to realize how easily the people in these two states were conned.

In John We Trust   August 24th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

Sen. Joe Biden thinks he's running with Barack America.
This really is an Obamanation. :-(

DanFango   August 24th, 2008 4:00 pm ET

For those of you PUMAS who nurture the delusion of HRC in 2012, and therefore hope McCain is elected in 2008, just remember that there will be whole lot more than 18 million of us who will know who
gave the election to the Republicans

We will remember who's responsible for expanding the Republican Plutocracy while our healthcare erodes to third-world status, why we're in four more unending wars,why Detroit's big three were sold to the Chinese, why 20% of the Florida coastline is under water, and why Rowe v. Wade was finally overturned by a few more Scalitos and Thomases on the Supreme court.

It won't be pretty.

Hustrulid   August 24th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

This is redicules that this committee would now decide to restore the full vote count for Florida and Michigan. I find it interesting the Obama would only now push for this to occur. These two states in question should have never wasted the tax payers money in the first place if the votes were never going to count. I hope Hillary Clinton receives the nomination after all.

I find it very funny that McCain and Obama are so close in the polls. This should tell the Democratic Party something.

randy   August 24th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

Hillary people. Shut up and stop your whining. Go ahead and vote for McBush. Then kiss your rights good-bye. Kiss abortions good-bye. Kiss equal rights good-bye. And be ready to spend billions on another war, because that is all McCains knows about.

Susan   August 24th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

Can we get over with this and vote for progress?

I regret being dumb in last 2 elections......

I AM NOT DUMB ANYMORE..............

Vote Progress.... Vote Democrats..............

Anonymous   August 24th, 2008 3:58 pm ET

The DNC masterminds another job to get BHO in and Hillary out. Good job Dean.

baljeet   August 24th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

Mr obama is showing his true colors , sad to say i will be voting for Mcain this general election

Miami Florida.

Brian   August 24th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

They have blown it again. They had a work horse and selected a donkey! Count all the votes when it's in the Democratic Party's favor! The Democratic Party is now the Chicago Party and I want no part of it.

the Head   August 24th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

Is this garbage supposed to be relevant news? Who cares after the fact what happened. They don't matter now!! Obama and Clinton are a couple of lunatics. I'll hold my nose and vote for McCain! The DNC and Dean are a bunch of spineless morons.

nola   August 24th, 2008 3:53 pm ET

People Senator Clinton agreed along with the other individuals competing to be the Dem candidate not to allow Michigan and Florida votes to be counted. SO would you please take the time to study the issues before you start blaming Senator Obama for Clinton's mistake.
I think that Senator Clinton realizes that she ran an ill advised campaign – that she hired individuals that were not very knowledgable about the Dem procedures – like Penn thinking that if she won California she would earn all the delgates (NOT) they had to be shared – and that these individuals were not looking out for her best interest.

Larry, Texas   August 24th, 2008 3:32 pm ET

BHO was against it before, now is for it. That is kind of change of BHO.

jimmy   August 24th, 2008 3:32 pm ET

OF COURSE !!!! NOW THAT OBAMA HAD THE NOMINATION WITHOUT THE NEED FOR THE MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA DELEGATES AND HILLARY NO LONGER IN THE RUNNING.
THE OBAMA CAMP NOW OPPORTUNISTICALLY PLACATES THOSE DELEGATIONS IN ORDER TO WIN THOSE STATES IN THE GENERAL ELECTION.. GREAT STRATEGY . BUT WHO IS FOOLING WHOM. ? ARE THOSE DELEGATES FOOLS ?, NOT TO SEE THRU
WHAT OBAMA'S CAMP DID TO THEM?

ben   August 24th, 2008 3:32 pm ET

I still laugh when I think of that comedian I think his name was Black, when he said he wanted to congratulate the democrats when the nominated Kerry. They picked the only man on the planet who could not beat Bush. Are they now planing another foot to shoot?

Independant Thinker   August 24th, 2008 3:32 pm ET

Well, with both of Michigan and Florida being restored to their FULL vote count, it should make things interesting seeing that neither candidate has won the primary outright and that inclusion of these 2 states will make the contest VERY close. All that it will take is some defecting super delegates.

Hillary might walk away with the nomination after all.

Marc PDX   August 24th, 2008 3:17 pm ET

So where does that land the official delegate count? How many superdelegates?

Michael in MO   August 24th, 2008 3:17 pm ET

Well, how convenient – - now that Barry's totaled up and bagged. Discard the competition, and clean up the mess. Oh, but I'm just another pro-Hillary whiner....

Unshrub   August 24th, 2008 3:17 pm ET

This is NOT the general election, it is a primary election and they have their own rules. Get over it. But if these republicans are going to try to make inflamatory comments maybe if you used a little more common sense it might work out a little better. This comment from Griff is so silling it's sad.

Snubbed   August 24th, 2008 3:17 pm ET

Obama just gives them full rights because he already won. He was absolutely against it while Hillary was still winning. He is such a sham! Same old politician!

Snubbed   August 24th, 2008 3:16 pm ET

OBAMA IS SUCH AN ELITIST.

He did not call Clinton personally but had an aide tell one of her aides.

Compare that to what he did with Bayh.

He absolutely snubbed her and will not get my vote!!

Kathy   August 24th, 2008 3:15 pm ET

Now they restore all the votes??? Are the dems purposely trying to self destruct? All this "change" is sounding like the same old political song and dance.

tedious898   August 24th, 2008 3:14 pm ET

Sally...you need your medication. You must be a republican to think Dubya looks good compared to Barack. Or you my dear are nearing a time to be admitted to the closest psych ward for the mentally deranged.

Dirty politics   August 24th, 2008 3:14 pm ET

"Griff August 24th, 2008 2:53 pm ET

Yes I too can make Mistake's, with listening to This Garbage!!! THey Cheated like nobody could cheat…… A Hot-Favorite is Destroyed, Just like "Ayala", (THe Thoroughbred)… Just so insurance could be collected!!! This time by the Democrats… But you wont live long enough, to claim; Pelosi and other Democrats… This year 2008, Will Be always known as…. Hate! Hate! Hate! For the Dem's;
You'r Party as Folded, You just don't know it yet… Sucker's!"

Griff, it's time for your medication.

Hillary Clinton   August 24th, 2008 3:14 pm ET

Obama/Not Clinton '08

:-(

Minako   August 24th, 2008 3:14 pm ET

Of course now they do it to consolidate Clinton voters.

Too little, too late.

Nick - Arlington, VA   August 24th, 2008 3:14 pm ET

Sally August 24th, 2008 2:53 pm ET

The only way to save party unity is for Hillary to hold on to her delegates, add the ones fairly won in Florida and Mitchigan, have her on the nominee roll, and THEN see who gets the most votes. BHO is now showing his true colours, what a nasty, egotistical man – almost makes Dubbya look good.
------------------------------------
SHE LOST.....if she thought she didnt she would have never endorsed Obama....

Could anybody respond?   August 24th, 2008 3:14 pm ET

Question #1:
Is it likely/possible that Clinton had a high chances to be a nominee if this would happen in June?

Question #2
If the answer to the first question is "yes", than there should be a re-vote. If the answer is "no", why not to do that in June?

Question #3
What Forida and Michigan did during the last 2 months to "deserve" their full voting rites?

Jabloo   August 24th, 2008 3:13 pm ET

Just remember that if Barak does loose the race, and hillary tries to run next four years, we will remember.....yes we will.

Military Man   August 24th, 2008 3:13 pm ET

Too little too late.

RJ, CA   August 24th, 2008 3:13 pm ET

Won't make any difference – Obama stole the election fair and square!

Dirty politics   August 24th, 2008 3:13 pm ET

No matter which way you slice it, Obama had enough delegates and superdelegates, before Mi and FL was seated. I understand that the delegates can still change their minds, but I highly doubt that they would give up the shot at the presidency to to appeal to the small number of PUMAs, just like i highly doubt that all 18 million voters who voted for Hillary during the primaries still feel the same way about her now. She has done very little in this election since the primaries were over, because she still has a job to do in the senate. She's doing what she has to do, and PUMAs are so selfish, that they interfere with her life. Let her move on.

Rocky   August 24th, 2008 3:13 pm ET

How dumb does the Democratic party think we are? Wait until restoring the delegates means nothing as far as the election results go and then say it's OK. If the Dems win my home state of MI I will be very disappointed in my fellow voters.

Anthony   August 24th, 2008 3:12 pm ET

The truth of the matter is – With Florida and Michigan, Hillary WON! Now we are always going to know that she was the winner and that it was stolen from her as it was stolen from Al Gore.

Pathetic Obama. I am a DEMOCRAT FOR MCCAIN!

Liberty Queen   August 24th, 2008 3:12 pm ET

Hillary Rodham Clinton is the best and the brightest and is the true Democratic Presidential Candidate that the maleist democratic (small "d" for effect) party that disenfranchised millions of voters in Florida and Michigan. We don't need another couple of clueless arrogant boys in the white house...remember Joe Biden and his pathetic betrayal of women everywhere, especially black woman Anita Hill, during the hearings on Clarence "Uncle Tom" Thomas. To remind you one more time, it's about DEMOCRACY, not the democratic party. GO HILLARY!!!!!!

Jack   August 24th, 2008 3:12 pm ET

Why is this happening? The Democratic Party made it extraordinarily clear to the delegations from Michigan and Florida would NOT be allowed to vote if they moved their primaries. Flordia and Michigan shrugged their shoulders and did it anyway. What kind of precedent does this set by restoring their rights. Which states will do this in the future?

Ronnie   August 24th, 2008 3:11 pm ET

How convenient that they do this AFTER Obama has the nomination. The Obama machine faught this BEFORE Hillary was dropped. Now, since it benefits his side, it seems that they could care less. Well, I care (and so do millions others). The Dem. party has LOST our votes. This does nothing but tear the party further a part and exposes Obama as the cheating, hypocrite that he is. McCain will get my vote as with millions of other cheated Dem.

Marge Hibbing Mn   August 24th, 2008 3:11 pm ET

Sure whinny cat obama, doesn't mind Hillary getting her full count now that the DNC has twisted the super delegates arms so they put him over. When she needed them to beat his butt he cried and whinned and danced up and down like a baby to get them to take them away from her. This piece of downright absolute crap is the one the good old women haters and zany popped eyed kids want to be our president. Is it because that's the way they act cry baby cry.

ryan   August 24th, 2008 3:10 pm ET

When is it every going to end...I will be so happy after Obama wins this election for 2 reasons...

1. The country will be headed back in the right direction

2. We dont have to hear from these complianing Hilary supporters any longer...enjoy it while it last

PS It the democratic party not the Clinton party

Megan O. Toronto, ON, Canada   August 24th, 2008 3:10 pm ET

what a sham.....other countries look on and laugh at some decisions Americans make

velmeezee   August 24th, 2008 3:10 pm ET

True that Jamil. She was in agreement with the penalties until she realized that she "won" the elections. I was so disgusted with her pushing to have votes counted in which she cheated by having her name on a ballot that was null and void. This tells me that she knew that she couldn't win legitimately in Michigan. They should have had a RE-DO

Alison   August 24th, 2008 3:10 pm ET

Just another obvious showing of how Hillary was shafted by her own party ! She should be McCains Vice President and show the DNC that her voice and experience really does matter

Bill   August 24th, 2008 3:10 pm ET

Thank you democrats. There is no way that the Republicans should be in this election. Thanks to all your inbreeding/infighting, the Republicans will win. I've hated the clintons for years, but this year they have been the best thing for Republicans. Hillary/Bill: you can come join the Republican party any time you want.

Rob   August 24th, 2008 3:09 pm ET

I am slightly frustrated that full voting rights were not given to the states in the first place, but in the interest of my party's untification, I must ask that all Democrats rally around their candidate, Barack Obama, in the coming weeks before the election. I, too, was a Hillary Clinton supporter, but now she is out of the race, and the party must progress.

Shane   August 24th, 2008 3:09 pm ET

THIS MAKES ME SICK. HOWARD DEAN, NANCY PELOSI AND THEIR PUPPET- BARRACK OBAMA, HAVE RUINED THIS PARTY. IF THESE VOTES WERE FULLY RESTORED, HILLARY WOULD BE OUR NOMINEE, NOT THAT PUPPET!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Raphael - Fon du Loc   August 24th, 2008 3:09 pm ET

Thanks be to Allah and Obama !!

Dan - Ohio   August 24th, 2008 3:09 pm ET

Michigan and Florida should not have been given any voting power. These states violated rules set out, and even Hillary Clinton once said neither would or should count. Does the DNC have any power? What message does this send when states violate the rules set by the DNC and the DNC does not enforce the rules.
Barack Obama helped broker a deal to seat about half of the delegates from Florida and Michigan, despite the rules indicating no delegates should be seated. Hillary Clinton supporters still complained. Now, the DNC seats the entire delegation. Still, some Hillary Clinton supporters complain. Barack Obama and the DNC have bent over backwards for Hillary Clinton and her supporters. Hillary Clinton has responding positively, but many of her supporters continue to whine and yell and say nasty/absurd things about Obama. If people vote for McCain and McCain is elected then we deserve the horrible economic and foreign policy path we will continue to be on.

ron democrat turned independent   August 24th, 2008 3:09 pm ET

and democrats are wondering why they can't maintain a larger lead against McCain. it's called credibility. how long do they think they can do this, without repercussion

gary   August 24th, 2008 3:09 pm ET

OBAMA MUST HAVE BOUGHT THE DNC AGAIN,NOW THAT HRC ISN'T GETTING THE FAIR SHARE OF VOTES. SHE WAS SWIFTBOATED OUT FROM DNC, O.B. AND SUPER D. AMERICA DESERVES WHAT THEY GET. THIS RACE WAS FIXED .O.B'DS MONEY WONT BUY THE ELECTION.

JWheeler   August 24th, 2008 3:08 pm ET

Idiots! We knew they would restore the voting rights eventually. Why didn't they do it earlier when it might have done some good. Fools!

Ramiz   August 24th, 2008 3:08 pm ET

Hillary lost. Michigan and Florida broke the rules. They needed to be penalized, especially because the Dems have been spending so much time talking about accountability. Stop whining. Get behind your party. Swallow your pride and play by the rules.
This is how it's done.

Obama/Biden '08!

Doon in Vegas   August 24th, 2008 3:07 pm ET

HRC wackadoodles please note: the vast majority of this country is very sick and tired of you. we will not vote for her, and following her behavior in the primary process, as well as her husband, we would never vote for her. Why don't you people show your support by sending her money to pay off her debt.

Obama/Biden 2008 AND 2012

Jim   August 24th, 2008 3:07 pm ET

This whole issue is sickening. You make rules and the states do not keep them even though they knew the ramifications. Hillary and Barak did not complain at the time, Only later does "count the votes" seem important. Doesn't it all seem a little self serving. I wonder how different the parties really are anymore. It is all about control and power and nothing about right and wrong and what is good for the country.

US SOLDIER   August 24th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

PUMAs SHE LOST! I sure hope you don't raise your kids to complain about one thing and when you get it complain that you got it.

CHUCK   August 24th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

What a joke.

Morningstar   August 24th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

HRC does not own "her" delegates, she did not even suffer like Al gore, and even Al Gore who was hurt politically by the Clintons did not behave the way some republicans here want Hillary to behave. If You want to help Hillary, then pay her debt and tell her to have a better strategy in the future and no seek to distroy fellow democrats any more.

velmeezee   August 24th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

And no, the votes in Florida and Michigan were not fairly won. Those states violated the rules and therefore the votes should not have counted. Barack Obama was not on the ballot in Michigan. People were confused and didn't vote because they were told the votes would not count. They should have had a re-do. Seating the delegates as they are out of that sham of an election is definately not doing justice to the people of those states. But whatever, the best man is still going to win the presidency, regardless of what petty attempts are made to thwart him. Good always prevails.

roy heflin   August 24th, 2008 3:05 pm ET

SO its OK to change the rules after you become the candidate? Wasn't Obama against counting FL & MI delegates when Hillary pushed for it during the primaries? I hope none of those voters in those 2 states vote for him – CHANGE – We can count on? I get it – CHANGE your mind when its in your favor!!!

miket   August 24th, 2008 3:04 pm ET

How hypocritical!!!! When these votes would have mattered in the election process the Obama camp fought tooth and nail to keep them out. They hammered Michigan and Florida on not following the rules. I guess the rules aren't so important now that he needs their votes in the general election. This proves Obama is a veteran and typical Chicago politician. He will do anything and everything to win.

Brandon Hillary Puma4Mc   August 24th, 2008 3:04 pm ET

ONLY AFTER They pushed Hillary out of the race. Those DNC rats wont get my vote this year.

Joe Kiloz   August 24th, 2008 3:01 pm ET

D N C-----D E A N----P E L O S I-----P,,,,,,I,,,,,,,,G,,,,,,,,,S

former democrat   August 24th, 2008 3:01 pm ET

Unity when its convient?? No thanks.., I'll wait for 2012.

Dirty politics   August 24th, 2008 3:00 pm ET

Obama still won. At least the democrats did the right thing.

billylee8   August 24th, 2008 3:00 pm ET

From Griff's tenuous grasp on the English language, I can only come to the conclusion that he's just an angry guy from Florida.

You whined and whined and got your way... what more do you want??

Obama/Biden   August 24th, 2008 3:00 pm ET

READ: Florida and Michigan Democrats had been penalized by the DNC for holding their primaries in January – a violation of party rules.

A rule that Hillary and Obama agreed to so please cut the crap Hillary supporters.
You break the rules you pay the price!!!

Im glad they have been restored! Moving forward!!

Obama/Biden 08/12

Dennis   August 24th, 2008 2:59 pm ET

It is another move by Obama to try and force party unity. Why didn't he stand with Clinton during the primary. Obama is for "change" but he sure knows how to play politics. Just another reason why i'm not voting for him.

-Former Obama supporter, current Hillary supporter

velmeezee   August 24th, 2008 2:58 pm ET

So, what's the point of having rules if they can be broken with no penalties? Any other club, if you break the rules, you're out. Why did we waste all that time, energy, and money deciding what to do about Florida and Michigan in the first place then if the decision is not going to stand?

ellen   August 24th, 2008 2:57 pm ET

this just adds to Obama's hypocracy

Anyone but these 2   August 24th, 2008 2:56 pm ET

Wow. I feel sorry for democrats this year. The DNC is obviously crooked. Denying these votes for Clinton and then allowing them once she says she'll pledge her delegates to Obama is really sketchy. I have to say, it looks like the Clinton supporters were right about the DNC "fixing" the race. I'm a democrat-leaning independent myself, but I'm really glad I'm not supporting the democrats this year. They seem as "Rovean" within the party as the Repubs do in general.

Vote third party. Any third party. Tell Washington they need to clean up their act if they want us to keep supporting the major parties.

DebbieB   August 24th, 2008 2:56 pm ET

Who cares about restoring full voting rights now?

jenevieve   August 24th, 2008 2:56 pm ET

Does this mean that Hillary will get those delegates that were taken away from her?

Elaine wilson   August 24th, 2008 2:55 pm ET

Why now? Oh, I understand it was done to help Obama not Hillary Unfair!

Sherry, Atlanta   August 24th, 2008 2:55 pm ET

AMERICA IS MADE UP BY RULES, THAT WE ALL MUST FOLLOW. IT WAS IRRESPONSIBLE FOR MICH. & FLA. TO THINK THAT THE RULES DIDN'T APPLY TO THEM. I WOULD SUGGEST THE CITIZEN'S IN THOSE STATES, "VOTE THE INDIVIDUALS OUT OF OFFICE". THAT WOULD DEFINITELY SEND A MESSAGE.

Jamil   August 24th, 2008 2:54 pm ET

Get your facts straight. The move had NOT "been sought by former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton since shortly after the primary season began." It was sought by her after she realized changing the rules would be the only possible way for her to win the nomination. She didn't start caring for FL & MI until February.

Shannon   August 24th, 2008 2:54 pm ET

that's right, another issue Obama flip flopped on! When the votes were going to Clinton, he was all opposed to it, remember the rules are the rules. Now that he needs the votes, it's fine. How do you say hypocrite!!!!

Olivia   August 24th, 2008 2:54 pm ET

This would have made a positive impact for Hillary when the DNC met to decide on this on this very fact. Their decision to award half a vote at the time and to give obama the MI votes he hadn't earned and which was against party rules, very negatively affected Hillary's campaign. Even so.....she had a really strong finish.

Now, FL and MI are to be appeased and brought on board.......WELL AFTER THE FACT and after Hillary was "put down". Are her supporters supposed to cheer about this...really.?

Denise   August 24th, 2008 2:53 pm ET

For God's sake, I hope these people do not start whining!

I am sick and tired of people whining. First they complained when they lost their full voter registration, then, on the HP, I saw people complaining because he asked the DNC to reinstate their full voting rights.

What does it take to make these people happy? NO, HRC will NOT be added to the ticket! Grow up people!

Sally   August 24th, 2008 2:53 pm ET

The only way to save party unity is for Hillary to hold on to her delegates, add the ones fairly won in Florida and Mitchigan, have her on the nominee roll, and THEN see who gets the most votes. BHO is now showing his true colours, what a nasty, egotistical man – almost makes Dubbya look good.

Griff   August 24th, 2008 2:53 pm ET

Yes I too can make Mistake's, with listening to This Garbage!!! THey Cheated like nobody could cheat...... A Hot-Favorite is Destroyed, Just like "Ayala", (THe Thoroughbred)... Just so insurance could be collected!!! This time by the Democrats... But you wont live long enough, to claim; Pelosi and other Democrats... This year 2008, Will Be always known as.... Hate! Hate! Hate! For the Dem's;
You'r Party as Folded, You just don't know it yet... Sucker's!

Trollmaster   August 24th, 2008 2:53 pm ET

Oh no, all the fake PUMAS posing as Republicans are going to whine again in countless messages here.

Susan from Scotts Valley, CA   August 24th, 2008 2:53 pm ET

Hopefully they'll correct the problem that caused this situation to occur in the first place so it won't happen again.

Jeremy   August 24th, 2008 2:52 pm ET

Why are they giving back their voting rights? Florida and Michigan were the ones who broke party rules.

Pennsylvania Voter   August 24th, 2008 2:52 pm ET

As an Obama supporter, I have no problems with this. I will say, however, that the primary system needs a lot of reform for 2012.

It's going to be a great convention!

Michael   August 24th, 2008 2:52 pm ET

So, as I understand it, it's OK to break the rules...

California Voter   August 24th, 2008 2:52 pm ET

Let me be among the first to say that the Clintons may have been known for their political know how, however, I think Obama wins the prize for working the system to his advantage! Each of his wins to elected office were a result of working the system - eliminating opponents not through accomplishments, but through dirty politics. And now, lo and behold, the DNC is giving both Florida and Michigan full voting rights at the convention. How convenient! Obama's true colors a shining through.

Mike   August 24th, 2008 2:51 pm ET

What a joke! Obama is so dishonest. He was so against this during the primaries because he know he would lose and now that he got the nomination he wants to give the voters of these two states what they deserved from the beginning. Unbelievable. I don't trust this guy at all.

Red Mpls   August 24th, 2008 2:50 pm ET

This is unbelievable... FL and MI should have NO delegates at all!

Wisest one of All   August 24th, 2008 2:49 pm ET

Hillary please take your victory! You DID receive the majority of the popular vote! Proven fact!

rachel   August 24th, 2008 2:49 pm ET

hmm. So why did Obama fight this in the primaries his camp said Hillary couldnt have won with them anyway. Someone answer that question for me.

Dustin   August 24th, 2008 2:49 pm ET

I don't know why this didn't happen in the first place. Full votes or half votes is proportional. So whether Michigan or Florida get full votes or half votes it is not going to benefit either candidates. But I hope this helps with party unity.

Obama 08

myasara   August 24th, 2008 2:48 pm ET

How convenient. A few months too late, but whatever. I can't believe nobody's commented on this yet.

BK   August 24th, 2008 2:48 pm ET

The DNC can go to H@@! Then all of our votes should count and Clinton is the nominee. This just makes me madder. Obama makes me sick and the thought of his hateful racist wife in the White House makes me sick to my stomach. I will vote McCain.

What???   August 24th, 2008 2:47 pm ET

Could Hillary and the DNC be plotting a coup?????

Barbara   August 24th, 2008 2:47 pm ET

I truly believe the workings of people like Rush Limbaugh and Karl Rove in our major elections should be made illegal. There is a lot of deception and a lot of game-playing going on that is much worse than just mischievious. It should be punishable by law.

Our lives are at stake – Our entire nation is at stake – not something to be taken lightly.

Criminalize these offenses, and punish the criminals !!!!!!

Tam   August 24th, 2008 2:46 pm ET

Gee that´s nice. Just a few months overdue. Thanks DNC for letting their voices be heard, what a concept.

C from Texas   August 24th, 2008 2:46 pm ET

Guess they're trying to make up for how bad they treated these Americans before. The Dems are just trying to be nice now to get their votes.

McCain '08

Robert   August 24th, 2008 2:46 pm ET

Too little, too late. McCain has my vote.

LET'S KEEP IT REAL   August 24th, 2008 2:45 pm ET

So how could this affect the outcome of the delegations?

Griff   August 24th, 2008 2:45 pm ET

Don't talk Stupid!!! So Hillary Cl8inton will be the CIC???????????

Francisco Cardenas   August 24th, 2008 2:45 pm ET

too late!

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