A NATION divided against itself CANNOT STAND …
A HOUSE divided against itself CANNOT STAND …
A PARTY divided against itself CANNOT STAND …
A MIND divided against itself CANNOT STAND …

What's with the INDEPENDENTS and OTHERS who can't seem to make up thier own minds? Unfortunately it is they who will make the final decision as to who the next leader of the free world will be, and that is scary because they can't even make up their own minds … They should just have the election this weekend, and all those who cannot make up their minds will be left out. Come on people it really isn't that hard to choose one or the other … remember … A DOUBLE MINDED MAN IS UNSTABLE IN ALL HIS WAYS!!!!

McCain is a jerk. Trying to jerk us Americans around as if we're fools.

Since Mccain thinks that 5 million dollars is the barrier of a wealthy family, there's no wonder why his twisted logic slides into the thinking that taxing the wealthiest 20 percent of households is considered to be "raising ALL of our taxes." Mccain is dillusional, and his senility is showing. He is out of touch with American families, and will not be a good President, at all.

Hey Dave, how's that free market working for your 401K and your house value lately? Moron!!!

The wealthiest 20% of the country are business owners and corporations. They will either go out of business in this type of economy or go else where. The lower 80% can get all the tax cut they want, but there are going to be fewer jobs for them. That's something FactCheck does not verify because they set to verify words and claims but not what could happen.

McCain and Palin are playing the politics of fear and ignorance, same as Bush did. 8 years of Bush and people have still not learned. Well if the GOP wins again, the "majority" who elect them should not complain when they are jobless and homeless. Oh by the way, they can still keep their guns, continue to execute whoever they want while preaching a culture of life.

"Obama will raise taxes."

Just more of McDoesn't-understand-it lies and he knows it.
They have been putting out this crap since the beginning of the campaign. They have no thoughts of their own…. just lies.
They even co-opted Obama's campaign slogan of change.

Bravo! Another "issue oriented" story! Keep 'em coming. THIS is what the election is all about. The more legitimate news and issues we can get out there to the undecideds, the sooner we can put McCain to bed for his nap.

McCain has been called out on so many lies but nonetheless perpetuates them. I have never seen this kind of brazen risregard of the truth, and the media needs to start making this a headlining issue rather than a sidenote. Many people still think Palin nixed the bridge, Obama will raise their taxes, and Obama is a radical Muslim. Media–do your job and set the record straight so we don't end up with another 4 years of sleazy GOP politics. Obama/Biden 08

Of course 50% of Americans don't pay any taxes at all. So why does Obama continue to call his tax handout to those 50% of Americans a tax cut!?

20 percent of the population is 17,500,000 families. That is alot of people Senator Obama. They worked hard for what they have and why should they bear the brunt of paying for health care, education, etc. for millions of illegals.

Ask Obama does he plan to send those home? No, he plans on giving them free health care etc. even though they don't pay one dime in taxes payroll or otherwise.

Linda, Salem, Ma

Thank you CNN! Finally a major news outlet is calling McCain out on this BLATANT LIE. Thank you for doing your job CNN! The American people should never have to wonder what is the truth and what is not.

Thank you Dave.

I also agree with Teri. We may be promised the moon and the stars by both candidates, but we will see what actually happens once one of them gets into office.

*McCain/Palin 2008*

Hey Dave???

Don't we need jobs to WORK FOR IT??? This myth that Dems don't work for what they get is ridiculous and totally a lie, which fits right in with Republicans thinking. DRILL BABY DRILL = LIE BABY LIE.

Obama is going to raise taxes big time on everyone.

Dave -
my incapacitated grandmother, who raised me, recieved "handouts" of approximately $350/mo. which allowed her to keep a roof over my head and allow me to go to school. I currently pay approximately 50k per year in income/sales/property taxes, will probably pay ~2million+ in taxes over my lifetime. Not a bad payback for those meager "handouts", eh?
I guess she could have been denied those handouts, and I would have been forced to steal and wound up in jail, then you could pay thousands every year to keep me there.

This is a black man trying to help America, he could be giving every tax payer a million dollars and paying America’s debt off with his own money and still would not be elected president. Racism is still here just as strong as ever, it's only difference now is, how well it's hidden.

Dave:

Actually, Obama is offering tax breaks for companies that invest creating new jobs in the US and taking them away from companies that outsource. so A. is wrong.

Also, because of the increase of income from the bottom, it will increase the consumer incoming thereby creating a trickle up effect. In economy, the best way to stimulate it is give the majority if people more income. This will also create new jobs, improve moral, and strengthen the economy.

This will in effect create a new market were businesses have to be more competitive to sell and produce their products. It worked well for the Clinton Era, and will once again during the Obama era.

Which means, more money to the poor means more money for everyone.

More money to the rich, means no one wins.

Hey Mel,

I would love to go to school to make more money. But, I can't join the Army to go to school. The money's not there or it might be 6 years beore I get back.

I would love to go to school if I could get the money to go. But, my parents and myself are to busy trying to afford groceries, gas and basic life necessaties.

So, the next time I come to your rich neighborhood to fix your plumbing, lights or fancy porch, don't be alarmed when I say "you need to fix it yourself! You choose to live this way!".

Can someone please explain to me in no uncertain terms why the wealthiest 20% of tax payers should be held responsible for the laziness, ineptitude, shortcomings etc of the lower 80%?

I agree that sometimes conditions beyond anyone's control are responsible for peoples hardships (layoffs, companies filing bankruptcy, disease etc) but for the most part I have observed people in bad financial situations doing absolutely nothing to get into better situations or worse actively pursuing behavior to keep themselves down so as to keep collecting a check from the local government office.

So if I make more than $250,000 per year, why should I pay higher taxes to help cover a mortgage payment for someone who makes $28,000 per year and could never have afforded the house to begin with but got it through a bad loan program he/she didn't really understand at the time? Why should I foot the bill for someone who doesn't have a job because he/she is on long term disability when the only disability they have is an inability to put down the twinkies and therefore they weigh 350lbs and can't get out of the house to work? Why should I have to work my tail end off to send my kids (or myself) to college while my taxes are being raised to make college more accessible to people who have very little interest in college and will not do well if they go? Why should I be forced to work hard for every penny that is deposited into my bank account while I watch people line up month after month to collect a check from the government for doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING?!?!?!

If someone can answer that question without saying anything as ridiculous as "because it's the right thing to do" then I will happily cast my vote for Barack Obama-until then McCain/Palin 08,12 and Palin/Whomever 16,20

CNN for the love of God for once please remove yourself from Obama's backside and post this.

DEAR FELLOW CITIZENS IN RURAL AMERICA—-

REVIEW MC-CANE'S POLICY AGENDA BEFORE YOU VOTE. THINK ABOUT HOW MOST RURAL AREAS ARE STRUGGLING FINANCIALLY AND HAVE BEEN FOR DECADES.

VOTE YOUR CHILDRENS' FUTURE AND POCKETBOOKS. HAVE A BEER WITH MCCAIN AT ONE OF HIS 9 HOUSES.

If the Bush system of cutting tax for the rich was working well and the economy was going great , I would definatly have voted for McCain but seeing as alot of people are loosing their jos,homes and most companies are moving to other countries i think it is pathetic that McCain is still thinking about using those SAME OLD FAILED politics. There is no way in hell i will vote for him. Fool me once same on you, fool me twice…….

Everybody should stop beating around the bush, ( no pun intended )
everyone who`s honest can read between the lines and discern the Code Words……
Taxes, Smaxxes ,…. two words , " OBAMA`S BLACK "…….

Ask yourself, can you afford four more years of this?? I know I can't.

There has been plenty of name calling on both sides of the isle. I find it all rather distasteful. If the best you can do is "rant" while calling someone names, it just makes you sound the fool. Stick to the issues with meaningful dialog.

To Mel

Evidence of Absurdity and Proof of Stupidity:

"People that need tax breaks the most need to go to school. They choose to live that way. "

You ever notice that people that don't know what they are talking about are the ones who are most fervent and outspoken of their ignnorance?

OH! I forgot! Absurdity and Stupidity are the conerstones of the McCain/Palin ticket.

Hello Jack why is that?

Republican legislators sue to stop Palin investigation
Five Republican legislators filed suit Tuesday in state Superior Court in an attempt to halt an investigation into abuse of power allegations against Gov. Sarah Palin, now Republican presidential candidate John McCain's running mate.

its a help that Obama offers and most of us will get tax cuts and it will be like CLINTON admin we will live happy as ever

Rick,

Do you research before you say anyone is lying please!

Check the table that Voter posted. That's a good start for your research.

And this why I am voting for Obama.

Even Alan Greenspan said the country can't affor McCain's tax plan.

Dave that's more BS. Why is it that the Blue states pay the majority of the taxes (and seem ok with that) and the Red states use more Welfare. Answer that. While you're at it, why is it that Red states tend to have more high school drop outs and a heck of a lot higher divorce rate?

Hmmmmm? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

That's a fact Jack!

Dave……….. Obama will give tax break to people that have there company here while mccain we give tax break to company that shift there job oversea. so make sure u read someone policy before concluding who to give your free vote for.
obama'08.

It's been years, and the man who murdered so many at the World Trade Center,is still free.

Years later, many of the katrina victims still have not been able to return home. Instead they spend their
nights in FEMA trailers that are making them sick.

Years later, we are still in a war where our men and women are loosing their lives for a war that never should
have taken place.

We now live in an economy where the American dollar is fallen fast, people are loosing their homes, gas and
food prices are on the rise when we have no extra money to give.

Its time for people to be able to breath again, and not have to go to sleep every night knowing that they might not be able to pay their bills.

It's time to capture the man who coldly celebrated his success while thousands of Americans cried for their
loved ones.

Its time to reach out to the katrina victims who where held captive in a hell with no way out, and help them
get back home.

Its time for our troops to be brought home to their familys.

It' time for a change, and we made this video because we believe with all our hearts that Barack Obama will
bring that change

Doesn't FactCheck have an affiliation with Annenberg who has an affiliation with Ayers who has an affiliation with Obama? Would not then, if that is true, anything that FactCheck says is biased towards Obama?

raise or not I had better life on Clinton time than John Bush

Here is the way I read this. Obama will increase federal income taxes for some people. McCain will not increase federal income taxes for anyone.

I've also heard that Barack intends to reinstate the death tax, increase the capital gains tax, increase taxes on energy consumption, increase taxes on cell phones, and pretty much any federal service. Is that correct? Can CNN confirm that? My second question is why are we increasing taxes for any reason? The government is already too big and wasteful. My understanding is that our spending and borrowing practices as a nation are what got us into this mess in the first place. What does Obama need to pay for with increased taxes?

Dave, conservatives lie

What hasn't been mentioned is, if those income figures are after the deductions and exemptions. If they are for what I just wrote, it would stand to reason that most of us would be better off with Obama's tax plan.

Facts? Screw your facts. If you repeat facts over and over they become lies. Just like if you repeat lies over and over they become facts. Ask John McCain.

Taking from the RICH and giving to the POOR.. Does that sound familiar? Robin Hood. No wonder the McCain camp is upset.

the key point missing here is fact Obama wants to stick it to corporations, who will in fact do the following:

A) take their business elsewhere, lost jobs
B) eliminate jobs to cut costs
C) increase prices on products to cover tax increases

Obama = socialist redistribution of wealth

Hey Dave, I see YOU'VE missed the Key Point in Obama's plan.
Corporations will get a tax credit for keeping jobs in the USA
Corporations will get a tax increase if they move jobs overseas
Creation of 5million new Green jobs that can't be shipped overseas
Helps economy, prevents and discourages jobs being sent overseas.

What is wrong with a hard working middle income and lower income (all hard working people) getting a piece of the pie? I imagine you'd like that too, wouldn't you Dave.

Don't be fooled by the smoke and mirrors of the GOP. Obama is the better choice, in fact the ONLY choice this country can afford.

Here we go the headline reads Obama is going to raise taxes. Did you know that over half of americans will only see the headlines and believe that Obama will raise everyones taxes. The news organizations know this and why they mislead readers is beyond my comprehension.

Obama will raise other taxes including cigarette taxes. How else could he pay for his big govt health care?!

To "Voter", your numbers posted above, can you link to where you got those? I think, to be fair, CNN needs to spell it out like your post did. The $38k – $66k range comprises A LOT more of the country than the top 3 slots do, which means a lot more people benefit. This is why the GOP is against it, because THEY are the top 3 slots. PLEASE somebody at CNN research and post these comparitive numbers for all to see. This is what should be a front page story, not what Sarah Palin had for lunch.

McCain = capitalist, let people make their own future, this country has more opportunity than any other in the world, key thing is you have to want to WORK FOR IT!

I Quess Your Not Keeping Up With The Current News Dave!

Thank CNN for finally getting to the issues.. FACT CHECK MCCAIN YOU LOST

People like the McCain's and the Bush's who have tons of money should be taxed higher than anyone else.

I know common sense in the republican party is non-existent, but this is a no-brainer.

McCain wants to keep giving tax breaks to those like himself, his rich Stepford wife, and all the other rich elitists.

So how exactly is Jonn McCain going to give everyone a tax cut but still increase spending without making the US's economy worst?

Smears, lies from these republicans ad even Carl Rove said so.
I am a Democrat and I am voting for McCain. Oh no! Why are you betraying Barack? You know why! Because John McCain had invented the Black Barry. I love my blackberry. McCain know Washington for 30 years, Barack is new to Washington. McCain is smart and does not understand the economy and I am thrill to vote for McCain. McCain is rich and Barack is not. McCain has many houses and Barack does not. If I Americans get evicted from their homes they can get a room each from McCain. McCain is the real deal that will shake up Washington and himself because he is an insider. Sarah Palin is a foreign policy expert because she can see Russia from Alaska Joe Biden cannot see Russia from Delaware. This is why I am not voting for McCain.

I think the 20% figure includes capital gains, interest rates (not sure, usually a part of income taxes), and dividents, not only income taxes. Obama would also raise payroll taxes for wealth people. I think if your income is over 250,000, you need to pay more payroll taxes too under Obama's plan. I am not sure 250,000 is for family income (Wall Street Journal claimed so) or individual income (ake more sense). Therefore, for the income below around 100,000 (increasing every year) and above 250,000, you have to pay social security taxes. Right now, you only have to pay social security taxes for income below 100,000.

So McCain campain did not lie when they said Obama would raise taxes. However, for most of the swing voters, the blue colar workers, they would not pay more taxes under Obama. It is very hard for Obama to tell voters on the fact.

Why does McCains posters say "country first" and not "America first"

Laura ur taxes will go up like $12…Do poeple see how fair this tax plan is. He makes sure to not mention that $250,000 would get like no tax increase (cause $12 is not much) but he still get lambasted for it.

Hey, to all of you who are posting here on CNN about how McCain and Palin are covering up, how do you explain this??:

Chicago radio station WGN-AM is again coming under attack from the presidential campaign of Sen. Barack Obama for offering airtime to a controversial author.

It is the second time in recent weeks the station has been the target of an "Obama Action Wire" alert to supporters of the Illinois Democrat.

Monday night's target was David Freddoso, who the campaign said was scheduled to be on the station from 9 p.m. to 11 p.m. Chicago time.

"The author of the latest anti-Barack hit book is appearing on WGN Radio in the Chicagoland market tonight, and your help is urgently needed to make sure his baseless lies don't gain credibility," an e-mail sent Monday evening to Obama supporters reads.

"David Freddoso has made a career off dishonest, extreme hate mongering," the message said. "And WGN apparently thinks this card-carrying member of the right-wing smear machine needs a bigger platform for his lies and smears about Barack Obama — on the public airwaves."

The Tribune-owned station was flooded with calls and e-mails about an hour before an Aug. 27 interview with Stanley Kurtz, a conservative writer who examined Obama's ties to former 1960s radical William Ayers.

A WGN producer said Monday night's response was about the same as when Kurtz was on the station.

First question is will CNN post this? Second question, all you Obamaholics, how do you explain yourselves after this?

These people ARE out of touch if they think they can just blatently lie and lie and lie and nobody's gonna notice.

….chuckle….chuckle….unbelievable.

Obama/Biden 'till 2024

Its cares me that people actually buy mccains lies hook line and sinker. Rick do your research. When your confronted with the truth and reality from the opposite party after months of being bumrushed with lies from your home party , i can understand your first reaction being denial. next comes withdrawl symtoms

Mel said:
People that need tax breaks the most need to go to school. They choose to live that way.

McCain/Palin 08

Wow speaks volumes for the typical McCain supporter. Thanks for your input.

Why are reporters allowing John McCain to get away with the claim that Obama will raise taxes on everybody?.

Why don't you do your job as a reporter by confronting John McCain with the fact rather than after he has made his claim?.

Journalists should extol the confidence imposed on them by the society, and they should not be part of a lying scheme which is what the McCain campaign has become.

NOW (National Organization of Woman) Endorses Obama this morning.

On pay equity. Sen. Obama is a co-sponsor of the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act and the Paycheck Fairness Act, legislation to end wage discrimination against women.

On reproductive rights. Sen. Obama is a co-sponsor of the Prevention First Act, to strengthen access to contraception and reproductive health care, and prevent unwanted pregnancies. He strongly supports Roe v. Wade and will oppose any efforts to overturn it.

On violence against women. Sen. Obama supports the continued reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act — of which Sen. Joe Biden is the chief sponsor — as well as the Security and Financial Empowerment (SAFE) Act, which is legislation to provide legal, medical and financial support to victims of domestic violence.

On the Supreme Court. Sen. Obama opposed the nominations of George Bush's extreme right-wing nominees to the Supreme Court, who have consistently ruled against women's rights,

CNN!!!! Why aren't you reporting this ????

I totally agree with the person above. I make enough that I do not need a tax break. I make more than enough after the basics to have a pretty good life. Why should I want more of a break when someone who needs it for food, housing and a chance for school needs it more?

What else is new? More lies from Republicans. Say anything to get elected. We are tired of this. I just want to have a decent living and I am tired of fear, smear and rear *&**.

the problem mccain have is his wife company not to pay any tax. so that he will still be wearing $570 shoe, so that 80% of us will not even try to dream of wearing his kind of shoes.

Teri, your point is one sided. What sayest thou about McPalin's theft of the the slogan of change? Also, since the Repubs can only play dirty to win and Sen. Obama is too refined to counteract, the "dysfunctional children" will do the job for him. Got it?

September 16th, 2008 4:07 pm ET

People that need tax breaks the most need to go to school. They choose to live that way.

McCain/Palin 08

Hey mel! I work full time, I CAN BARELY AFFORD RENT!! HOW CAN I GO TO SCHOOL IF I WORK FULL TIME AND ALWAYS BROKE?!?! YOU GUNNA PAY FOR MY SCHOOL??!

j williams – a real fact check back at ya:

"Poverty in the United States is cyclical in nature with roughly 12% to 16% living below the federal poverty line at any given point in time, and roughly 40% falling below the poverty line at some time within a 10 year time span."

Current poverty line in US for a family of 3 is 17k/year (22k in Alaska, the largest welfare state in the country).

That's right. And when McCain says that he will "raise your taxes" or raise them for everyone, he's talking to his party's base. But, he says it to all voters. Very misleading.

If I make over $250,000 per year because I work 80+ hours a week and so cannot take advantage of all the government granted perks I should have my taxes raised in an Obama government? Or, not cut so much in a McCain government?

Rick, your comment makes no sense. If you read the article it states that Obama will not raise taxes according to his plan on 80% of the population, he will cut them, and by a significantly higher margin. However, Obama will raise taxes on those making a decent income to offset the cuts he is giving to the poor. McCain with be cutting taxes across the board, but at a higher percentage for the wealthy, and he will not have anything to offset those cuts, just driving us deeper into debt. I wish people would look up the issues rather than just talking about points they hear others make. That's what has got us into the Bush debacle the last 8 years.

Teri…just go to each candidates web site and get details on the policies they are pushing. Make an objective decision by actually reading instead of just counting on CNN to display the facts. I make over 250K and you know what I don't mind the tax increase if it means someone who make less can benefit. But, this is coming from a guy who hasn't always been in that tax bracket to begin with. In other words I know how to share unlike the repubs!!

OBAMA 08

Jees, you Obama supporters are clueless. Obama's tax increase are going to hurt small businesses. Small businesses employ the majority of people in America. So what will they do once they're taxed into oblivion by Obama? Lay off employees and raise their prices. Then you can all feel good about that.

The vast majority of Republicans does not believe in facts.

So what's the difference ? McCain and Palin can lie all they want and the truth is, the more they lie, they more the Republican base gets energized. It plays on their level.

Ohooooo. . . McCain just played the dirty "Raising Your Taxes" card.
i think EVERY Republican has used this trick card…hopefully, the voters won't pick this card up and put in their hand. They'll lose.
OBAMA/BIDEN in 08!

If you make over 250,000 a year you NEED to get taxed!

I make well into six figures and support a family of three. I have no problem with paying a few thousand extra in taxes so long as the economy can support my ability to (1) hire folks who want to work for me, (2) allow them to maintain a decent existence on what they are paid, and (3) keep me from having to cut costs by laying off staff.

The wealthy need to be taxed at least at the same rate as the rest os, although I wouls argue they need to be taxed at a higher rate. Currently they are paying a smaller percentage of their income in taxes than the rest us, a fact that John McCain would like to feep as it is, and that is not even taking into the tax breaks they have that the rest us don't. Even Warren Buffet said that he thought it was ridiculous that with his millions he payed a smaller percent of his income in taxes than his secretary. With the obscene wealth of the CEO's that are running this country into the ground, you'd think we could at very least demand that they pay their fair share in taxes. And the corporations that are reaping such profits need to stop getting their corporate welfare checks. Not a reform McCain is in favor of either. He and Palin want instead to cut the earmarks that build our roads, schools and bridges, maintain our natiomal treasures and force us all to pay higher local taxes to maintain these things.

Teri..the DEMS are not in a panic..probably just tired of the mudsling coming from the Repubs..everyone has their limit…it's about time they started hitting back….

the key point missing here is fact Obama wants to stick it to corporations, who will in fact do the following:

A) take their business elsewhere, lost jobs
B) eliminate jobs to cut costs
C) increase prices on products to cover tax increases

Obama = socialist redistribution of wealth

McCain = capitalist, let people make their own future, this country has more opportunity than any other in the world, key thing is you have to want to WORK FOR IT!

Dems use hands to take handouts, Conservatives use hands to help themselves and others, WORK

No Teri…

Dysfunctional is voting for George W. Bush twice, spiraling our country into hell, and then voting for his older, mental – twin to continue America's fall into misery.

They both speak with forked-tongues. Get on with the debates and let's argue after.

Frank September 16th, 2008 3:50 pm ET

So McCain is telling the truth out of one side of his mouth and a lie out of the other side.

Typical Republican.
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I think most of what we hear from McCain comes out his other end.

It doesn't mention that payroll taxes, capital gains rates, and corporate taxes would also go up under Obama, and that rich people will just start to bring their money off shore if the tax burden is too high which means you will get lower revenue. Obama even admitted that raising the capital gains rate will likely lower revenue. Isn't the point of taxes is to give the government revenue?

John McCain needs to STOP lying. Sen. Obama would raise taxes on anyone making $250,000 a year. I make about $300,000 and I can AFFORD to pay more in taxes. I don't have a problem in doing so. People NEED to get a clue and start doing their homework.

George W/ Bush and John McCain believe the "Trickle Down" theory. The wealth NEVER trickles downward, if you believe that, then you just sit around for your share to hit you at the bottom. The VERY WEALTHY will squander it before it trickles down.

Voters NEED to understand, Sen. Obama is on the right track, by taxing about 2-3% of the population that makes over $250,000 it will cut our economic deficit and help to stabilize our economy. It won't solve it, but it will greatly help towards minimizing the problem, which is FAR better than what McCain is offering..

And she's being bolstered by lie-a-day McCain. And all the idiots talking about SOCIALISM need to go back to their caves!

Hey j.williams, get your facts straight: its the welthiest americans who find all the loop holes in the tax code who don't pay their fair share. If reversing that amounts to socialism, I'll take it.

The Republican party is over…..literally!

The proof is in the puddling.We will all be standing in lines for food if McCain and wonder woman is elected.

Wow!! Someone in the media actually Fact Checked John McCain!!!!!! Oh my God…. who will he lie to now? The horror…the horror…..!!!!!!!!

That's not what Obambi has been saying, his lie, oops I mean idea is that he will tax the top 5 percent and give the other 95 percent a tax break.

The only uh, uh, uh, uh problem is that over 40 percent of that 95 percent don't uh, uh, uh, pay any FEDERAL tax to begin with.

So he is going to tax the people that create the small businesses that make our economy run, a put this in your pipe FACT CHECK, small businesses are the folks thae CREATE MORE NEW JOBS THAN ANY OTHER SECTOR.

I hate when supposedly smart people just simple LIE or make stuff up.

Sorry CNN,

I don't trust the source of this information, because I've gotten much different numbers from other sources. Would you should do is look at analysis from economists who have analyzed both plans. I recommend factcheck.org for info on this story.

TAX those rich people good!!!! Yeah they don't work harder than the rest of us, and most of them are trust fund babies.

Cindy McCain we are comin for ya!

bush didn't want to raise taxes either, but curiously enough gas has doubled in price, home prices grossly inflated, (although now going down), home insurance rates curiously haven't gone down, costs of goods and services have increased. Well i don't know about the rest of you guys but if not raising taxes the way bush hasn't raised taxes is the formula for economic success… I would volunarily offer up a raise in taxes i pay if you would control the rest of the stuff.

Of course the race is close-too close because of race, but I can't believe that America will be stupid enough to re-elect a Republican. We do need change. I think the new voters will make the difference.

McCain is using the Big Lie theory: if you tell a big lie loud enough and often enough people will eventually believe you. It's a propoganda technique advocated by Nazi Germany (Check your history). CHECK the facts often in this race!!! Factcheck.org is a great nonpartisan place to start. Why won't McCain stop lying?? Because winning is apparently more important to him than honesty.

McCain its easy for him to dupe the voters by just saying Obama will raise taxes and he wont. he thinks that line will sell because voters will just asume he will cut taxes. thus another lie to try and get votes. he never explains anything, Obama will raise taxes and he wont. McCain you are banking on the ignorance of voters that they wont know the truth except that you wont raise taxes and Obama will. McCain you are a vicious typical Washington politician who lies his way to the white house. shame on you senator McCain. enough of your half truths.

The Republican ticket is an absolute mess. John is becoming laughable and Sarah is starting to squeel. Palin has lost her "fluff" and John has lost his mind. They're starting to look pathetic.

What about business tax? Capital gains? Etc. What people are ignoring or failing to grasp is that Obama will raise taxes on large (and small) businesses. When their taxes go up, their costs go up. When their costs go up, their prices go up.

It's not rocket science, people.

If you repeat a lie long enough, people will start to believe it.

Why isnt this story running on a loop 24/7 on CNN? SAY IT LOUD AND OFTEN. MCCAIN LIES! PALIN REITERATES MCCAIN LIES!

"Obama's tax plan would increase taxes in 2009 on the wealthiest 20 percent of households, while offering tax cuts for the other 80 percent."

No wonder why McCain keep repeating that "Obama wants to increase tax"….well baby its going to increase McCain's own tax return…hahhahaha. he is so panic right now. its just rediculous ludicruous how many lies he is saying all this compaign. he has lost all my respect for him. This guy doesnt have any integrity and still american public seems to fall for him.

People that need tax breaks the most need to go to school. They choose to live that way.

McCain/Palin 08

But why beleive the truth when the lie is so much prettier?

40% of Americans do not pay taxes??? I don't remember the poverty line being that high. Does that include all of the rich with their loopholes? Then I might believe that.

The democrats have had control of Congress for the last two years, and have done nothing to improve the economy. Why does any one think that Obama is only going to tax the "rich", and solve all of our problems. Have you forgotten that he has been part of the senate, and he is a Democrat also. So he won't get anything done either.

Republicans kill me misapplying Reagon's idea on tax cuts. Tax cuts only work when the economy is doing well. Our economy is not doing WELL. That's right McCain doesn't understand that. In addition, we are in a two front war, we need taxes to fund it. Do we want our troops fighting Al Qaeda without weapons, again?

MCCAIN, LIES LIES LIES AND MORE LIES BECAUSE THE GOP BASE IS SO UNEDUCATED, THEY WILL BELIEVE IT.

Thats not what Obama's aide said on Hardball. She quoted the top 2% which is 250 and over. Fact check didn't mention the raise of payroll, corporate, capital gains and death tax in their report especially on small business's making over 250 and under a million. Bottom line small and large companies will suffer greatly with Obama's proposed tax plan. Although Obama's plan looks good to middle Americal he is robbing peter to pay for paul and that will only bring layoffs, lost jobs, and small and large compainies folding with rasing the so called cap Obama has planned. Even Hillary said this will not work in debate after debate.

Now thats the way it should be! The wealthy should pay their shar of the taxes!

The media made such a stink out of the lipstick comment, what about all the mcsame lies? Why aren't all of these front page news? I have heard at least 20 of them from mcsame and the pitbull!

another GOP lie that the democrats are socialists! I guess these people who keep claiming that Democrats are socialists are the ones who rather have Fascist Pig with Lipstick Palin and McCain as their supreme leader.

Give Me 100 Million Dollars And I Will Gladly Pay More Taxes!

John McCain stop telling lies, but I do understand that you know that if you tell the truth that there is no way that you are going to win. Mc Cain while you have found a running mate that is willing to lie to your equal, America is in trouble. If you love these country, get out of the way so Obama may lead us to a point that not only will the world look to us but that we as Americans can see America on the top again. Mc Cain, You are out of touch, you are out of reach by miles. Change is on the way. Obama 08

I guess It would raise taxes for McCain and his wife. I think he is protecting his own interest,

Shhh, don't let facts get in the way of my best attack lines.

WANT GOOD NEWS REPORTING FROM CNN. WAIT FOR BLITZER.
DOBBS, BROWN, CROWLEY, MALVEAU , PILGRIM , POWERS, J. KING, TOOBIN, AMY HOLMES , BAY BUCHANAN , AND THE FIRST LINE ANALYSTS: GERGEN , BENNETT, DOBBS.
CNN AFTER 5 PM IS BEST WATCHIING.

my household makes over $250,000. So what. We can afford to get taxed. I rather help my country and other Americans than be greedy. Under McCain, I'll be getting a nice tax break, but I'm voting for Obama.
This country is so divided, it makes ill. Either way, my family will be fine. How many of you can say that? Maybe 20%. Greed is the root of all evil. I'm going to donate to Obama, as they say, share the wealth. I'm an independent voter.

TESAP:SAVANNAH, GA,

Obama lives in never never land and his gullible supporters live with him.
Everyone will be taxed to death. I can't believe you trust this man.
He will tell you anything to get your vote.

"Obama's tax plan would increase taxes in 2009 on the wealthiest 20 percent of households, while offering tax cuts for the other 80 percent."

GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mccain Is Upset Because His Taxes Will Go Up!

The rule I have adopted this past month is, if McCain accuses Obama of something ….. just accept that the truth is the opposite of what McCain is saying, and then go research it. You know what? on 90% of my research I have been right…..McCain is flat out lying or really bending the truth in all his statements and his ads. Honesty is the foundation of being honorable….John McCain is no longer honest, he has been taken over by the Bush people and has become a full blown NeoCon — they are totally running his untruthful campaign. He has sold his brand downstream for power.

What's with the headline? The fact is that Obama would cut taxes for 80% and that is what should be highlighted, not the other way around. And saying it's not possible to know what each candidate would do is a misleading disclaimer that shouldn't even be addressed. This presentation is confusing for people. Am I reading Fox News or CNN?

Thank you media for finally doing your job.

TAX those rich GOPS!!!! They are the ones who will get the biggest increase in taxes and I am fine with that!

no way…McCain lied? Now how about that, who would have thunked it?

It's pitiful to watch this old man pander his immoral bankruptcy to those foolish enough to listen to it. The man is a walking billboard of what is wrong with america, and it's POLITICIANS LIKE McCain and Palin that are wrong with america.

Time for the only change and hope we have….Obama/Biden '08!

Quite honestly, they can both say whatever they want. When it comes down to it, they can change when they get into office…either of them. Funny thing is — Obama talks about "change" but he doesn't specify for the better or worse… So yeah, he can "change" things, but who knows who will benefit from it.

By the way, I notice more Dems do the name calling lately — perhaps because they are in a panic and lashing out?? Dysfunctional children.

Thank you for FINALLY putting out the truth. And if trickle down economics has worked for you guys in the last 8 years than by all means vote for mccain/palin. Alan Greenspan, the former Chairman of the Federal Reserve for 10 yrs said that mccain's economic plan, such that it is, would be disastrous for the economy. It would destroy it, he said.

McCain only cares about the wealthy- he's a republican for a reason. So in his mind, Obama IS raising taxes on Americans- his Americans.

Obama want's to raise taxes on America's retirement and investment accounts. Also raising taxes on corporations will cause them to cut jobs and move overseas. It's not that complicated people.

………………………MCCAIN………………………………OBAMA
Income ………… Avg tax bill ……………………. Avg. tax bill
Over $2.9M …. -$269,364 (-4.4%)……… +$701,885 (+11.5%)
$603K and up…. -$45,361 (-3.4%)……. +$115,974 (+8.7%)
$227K-$603K…… -$7,871 (-3.1%)…….. +$12 (+0.0%)
$161K-$227K…… -$4,380 (-3.0%)……….. -$2,789 (-1.9%)
$112K-$161K…… -$2,614 (-2.5%)……… -$2,204 (-2.1%)
$66K-$112K …… -$1,009 (-1.4%)….. ….-$1,290 (-1.8%)
$38K-$66K …….. -$319 (-0.7%)………… -$1,042 (-2.4%)
$19K-$38K …….. -$113 (-0.5%)…………. -$892 (-3.6%)
Under $19K ……… -$19 (-0.2%)……. …..-$567 (-5.5%)

Belle – shut up no one in their right mind thinks McCain is a good at the economy.

Gramm says we are whiners…maybe he's right and the economy is in great shape…I just had Fact Check confirm this…it must be true!

So how are you going to pay for your war, which is costing us MUCH more than bailing out the banks you messed up during the Republican tenurship.

Obama will not raise taxes. McBush is a big liar. Only the well off would be taxed differently.

i make 1300 dollars a month at a bank. THAT IS NET!! The government takes away 350 of my hard earned dollars a month. And for what? A war?? Are you kidding me? This is the greater cause? How about taking my money and helping the community. Making MY life easier? Maybe I could be able to afford going to school and get an actual career with Obamas plan. But with Mccains plan, I don't even know how much longer MY JOB WILL BE AROUND.

Obama is my final HOPE for this nation to turn around and start caring about the people again

McCain may have to rent one of his houses to cover the increase in taxes, Obama's plan would impose upon the wealthiest. But his maids, gardeners, pool man, chauffeur etc. will have more money in their pockets under that same plan. Hope they don't get "uppity" and ask for a raise on top of it!

Maybe in between making his own commercials complaining about lipstick and other distractions, John McCain should actually watch and listen to Obama's. Especially when Obama distinctly said how he would lower taxes for most, not raise them.

Call McCain on his lies, and make him talk about real issues, and put Miss Congeniality on the back burner. Please!!

McCain just won't give up the lie about Obama…

Math doesn't lie. Obama should publish the math that CNN provided showing how the tax breaks, tax increases work. If I made over $250,000, I would not squabble over the $4,000+ increase in my taxes. When the majority (80%) of Americans have reduced taxes, they will spend…with the result of the wealthy earning more bucks.

The facts about the two candidates tax reform as outlined by TPC:

For Americans making between 38,000 and 66,000 dollars:

Under McCrypt you will bring home $312 more a year.

Under Obama you will bring home $1,012 more a year.

Senior citizens earning less than $50,000 per year will pay NO income tax under Obama.

Voting strictly “pocketbook” issues, who do you vote for?

McCain lies, cause Obama wouldn't agree to town hall debates.
lol

a real fact check—40% of Americans don't pay taxes (the so called liberal poverty line), so how will 95% get tax cuts ??? SOCIALISM ???

Ken from Dallas, it is the other way around. Obama will add
over a trillion dollars in new SPENDING. McCain is consistent about
Reductions in SPENDING. That is what 'Cut Spending' means. McCain can't making a sentence without promising to reduce spending. He and Palin are committed to reduced spending.

McCain is disingenuous. We don't need another liar in the white house.

Obama/Biden 08!

Mccain is playing hardcore politics here.

He is "tricking" himself to thinking he can get away with saying obama is going to raise your taxes without exactly specifying who he will raise taxes on.

That's his justification to continue saying that obama will raise taxes.

It's all semantics

Barack Obama – great for America – great for the American People.

NICE TRY MCCAIN! Why should we believe you? By the way, that economy you were talking about, still strong? lol lol lol

Trckle down economics at it's best!
Let us not forget our favorite PitBull with LipSTick, and her recent "Change" to No Cooperation on her investigation!
It means No real vetting process for Sarah Palin!
It means they really believe the American People are that Stupid!
Unfortunately, there are too many that will listen and believe that it's the Media or some liberal plott to bring her down, when she herself said "I will cooperate fully in the investigation" sad day on Nov 4 when the American people truly show how ignorant we are and elect these two in office

Obama's plan will increase taxes on some Americans. McCain has never said that Obama's tax increases will affect all Americans. McCain, technically, is telling the truth.

I didn't know 20% of Americans earn more than $250,000 per year, maybe McCain is correct, saying we have a strong economy and everythig is Great.

Just what we need: an old man with a dodgy memory who lies through his teeth and smiles at us.

Untrustworthy and an elitist in his $500 Italian loafers.

Thank you CNN for finally pointing this out. So many news networks, including CNN, have been quoting John McCain's half truths and lies and never doing any investigative reporting into whether his attacks on Obama have any merit. Please continue to keep these politicians honest and on subject with the issues most important to this country..

Why does McCain lie? No, seriously. Isn't lying a problem? He lies and then acts cute about it (watch the View). He grins and acts like he's only exagerating. SNL was right. The media DOES need to grow a pair. Also I felt bad last night listening to Candy Crowley. She was put in a bad position when asked which campaign lies the most. But it was obvious what her answer was because she started to stand up for McCain. It's a sorry state the media is in right now. McCain is playing games with you pathetic people. And you're too scared of being labled "liberal" to be fair and balanced. If one candidate lies. REPORT IT. Obama might criticise unfairly (McCain can't use a computer), but he doesn't lie. Get it straight you bunch of weaklings.

Thanks CNN for debunking a McCain lie that has been debunked for months.

Can you be a VP from jail?

She'd have all the time in the world to work on policy.

It is also fair to mention that Obama's tax plan would NOT pay for all of the big government programs he want's to issue. It is also fair to say that the small companies and corporations will be getting a tax hike. If you think these companies are going to absorb it and not higher their prices of product their selling….your obviously living in Obama land.

This Republicans have used this tactic in every election.

So..I mean in other words what McCain and his campaign have been saying about Obama's tax plan is a LIE.

People your gonna have to pay taxes no matter who is in office…

Is anybody surprised at this? McCain twists the truth to his own liking, while lying about his own plans to protect the rich.

Why is anyone even considering this man and that lying VP pick to run this country? Are people so afraid of change that they would allow themselves to be stepped on for another 4 years?

The headline should be "McCain's claims that Obama wants to raise taxes are false."

Report the facts.

Gosh… too bad the folks that McCain are talking too and gaining support (the 80% that Obama's plan will help) don't read/know the facts… they react off of their bias ways and the sound bites of what they want to hear which Painlin and McSame tells them on the trail…. ignorance is blissful! America do the right thing for the Country….. vote for Obama and Biden 2008 & 2012

Thank you!

Yes, Obama wants to raise taxes. The distinction between top 20% vs. bottom 80% is too complicated!

YOU ARE JUST PLAIN SELFISH IF YOU REFUSE TO VOTE FOR OBAMA BECAUSE YOU HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY AND ARE WORRIED ABOUT TAXES??

OUR COUNTRY IS IN TROUBLE AND IF I HAD IT GOOD LIKE SOME OF THESE RICH FOLKS I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HELP MY STRUGGLING NEIGHBORS BACK ON THEIR FEET.

THESE TAX INCREASES ON THE WEALTHY WILL BE TEMPORARY!!

ONCE THE ECONOMY STARTS TO SHOW SOME LIFE AND AMERICANS ARE BACK TO WORK YOUR TAXES WILL DECREASE AGAIN.

GEEZ PEOPLE, HAVE A HEART FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.

PEOPLE'S FAMILIES ARE SUFFERING!!

As I recall, this "Raising Taxes" ploy is used in every election. Nice try McCain….but the American voters are on to your Repuublican ways.
OBAMA FOR A NEW DIRECTION.

Lets stop the bleeding. No more Repulican neglect.
Obama/ Biden '08

Thank You Fact Check. ORG

Tell the Truth and Show that McCain is a lier

Obama/Biden

It'd be nice if the Republican candidate could say one thing, one single frigging thing, that isn't a lie and isn't immediately debunked by Factcheck.

It's clear how dumb the Republicans think we are. It remains to be seen how dumb we actually are. If you like being lied to, vote for McCain.

Well, we're over a year into this election cycle and this is the first "fact check" that I've seen CNN do.

You guys are truly appalling. Why check facts when you can just pour gasoline on the BS?

Obama's plan would benefit us ALL. Take THAT, McCain kool aid drinkers!

CNN your bias in favor of Obama is showing yet again!!!

Tell the whole truth. Stop telling the people lies. Just admit that Sen. Obama's economic plan is better than yours and have some dignity for Christ sake. The respect I had for you went out the window when you picked Palin. You're just making htings worst for you.

OBAMA/BIDEN 08

Politicians can say anything and will say this is my tax plan. Does anyone with half a brain actually think that Obama is going to cut taxes for 80% of Americans? If you do, you are living in a dream world. Let's look at Obama's record and see how many times he has voted to raise taxes or cut taxes?

This FACT CHECK article is pretty much written in the most misleading way possible. It has truths, but if you skip a sentence or misread part you are lead to believe he is raising taxes.

McCain/Palin 08- LIES you can believe in!

McCain thinks people are stupid that is the only reason why he keeps repeating this ridiculous lie, and the media allows him to get away with it. McCain is a fraud!

When McCain tell his listeners that Obama is going to raise taxes, it's true. That's because McCain is only talking to the wealthiest 20 percent, not the rest of us.

McCain will say and do anything to attract a vote. His ads have been proven to be false and misleading.

What about capital gains taxes?

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Well, this was useless.

So Obama's biggest cuts go to the poorest people; McCain's biggest cuts go to the richest. Obama would raise them slightly on the very richest. Overall, there are more cuts in Obama's plan.

Is that about right?

Obama, will give tax breaks to the people who need it the most, and that's the way it should be.

i make 1300 dollars a month at a bank. THAT IS NET!! The government takes away 350 of my hard earned dollars a month. And for what? A war?? Are you kidding me? This is the greater cause? How about taking my money and helping the community. Making MY life easier? Maybe I could be able to afford going to school and get an actual career with Obamas plan. But with Mccains plan, I don't even know how much longer MY JOB WILL BE AROUND.

Obama is my final HOPE for this nation to turn around and start caring about the people again.

The "Verdict" is idiotic; every statement is incomplete. The only important part is that one word, TRUE. Obama will raise your taxes!

Obama is essentially rolling back the Bush tax cuts to reflect what we had under Clinton. If you ask me, our economy wasn't doing so bad under Bill Clinton. I highly encourage people to actually READ the Tax Policy report. It's incredibly informative and shows just how much McCains plan is biased to support trickle-down economics which we know DO NOT WORK.

thank you for printing the facts!

MCCAIN YOU ARE A LIAR…AND SO ARE YOU PITT BULL

Exactly

Fact check FAILS to mention that on the stump, Obama took McCain's position of NOT raising taxes during bad economic times. Seems Fact Check needs to get their facts straight.

The difficulty here is that McCain's trying to cut taxes AND increase spending, and the arithmetic just won't work. Even the United States' credit isn't infinite, and McCain's plans will bankrupt us.

So McCain is telling the truth out of one side of his mouth and a lie out of the other side.

Typical Republican.

"…Obama's tax plan would increase taxes in 2009 on the wealthiest 20 percent of households, while offering tax cuts for the other 80 percent."

GREAT! That works for me! But…how about a balanced budget to go along with that idea, Obama!

Baldwin/Castle 08

But of course….another lie from McCain. It would be news otherwise

Obama / Biden

Obama says he's only going to raise taxes for those making over $250,000. Do 20% of all households make more than $250K? No way. Obama is lying.

Do you think the recent stock market collapse or troubles in the banking system are good news?

Well, according to CNN's Candy Crowley, the Obama campaign does.

On Monday's "Anderson Cooper 360," after CNN senior political analyst David Gergen said "what happened over the weekend with the economy and the bottom falling out of the financial markets…is the opportunity for Obama to seize the momentum back on his side," Crowley actually said, "[J]ust as foreclosures were showing up on B-17, or in the real estate section, along comes this horrific headline out of Wall Street…I mean, this is what they wanted."

I kid you not. The transcript of this disgraceful exchange follows (video embedded right, h/t Steve Malzberg):

Thanks CNN for clarifying this. These Republican idiots just bark like dogs that Obama is going to increase taxes etc. just one of the Karl Rove tactics.

I'm stunned, STUNNED that Senator McCain would give a misleading answer.

"In my administration we're going to hold people on Wall Street responsible and we're going to enact and enforce reforms that make sure that these outrages — and they are outrages — never happen in the first place," McCain said

But wait, this is completely opposite of what McCain has supported and stood for the last 20 plus years.

The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 deregulated the financial system by opening up competition among banks, securities and insurance companies and allowed commercial and investment banks to merge.

John McCain voted for this bill along with the entire Republican Senate. The Senate Democrats objected against it. Phil Gramm introduced this bill and was John McCain’s top economic advisor before he was forced to resign but still gives McCain economic advice to this day.

John McCain has a direct responsibility in the financial crisis we are in today along with the banking lobbyists he is employing in his campaign. McCain has supported the very philosophy and mentality that has caused the economy we are facing today. Is that what you want? Another 4 years of this? Look it up, McCain has truly supported DEREGULATION throughout his career and now all of a sudden he is FOR regulation. He’s blowing smoke and just telling more lies.

Um, yes he's raising taxes….. for people making darn near triple digits a year. It would benefit my family, who is barely making $30,000 a year.

Obama's tax plan would increase taxes in 2009 on the wealthiest 20 percent of households, while offering tax cuts for the other 80 percent.

EXACTLY WHY MCCAIN AND THE REST OF THEM ARE ANGRY………..

McCain – a LIE you can believe in!

McCain is a lying Republican scum. The sooner America is rid of the Republican political cancer, the better.

McCain/Palin are liars