September 17th, 2008
12:00 PM ET
6 years ago

Biden: McCain fell off his horse

Sen. Biden talked about the economy while campaigning in Ohio Wednesday.
Sen. Biden talked about the economy while campaigning in Ohio Wednesday.

MAUMEE, Ohio (CNN) – Joe Biden hammered John McCain on the economy at his first stop Wednesday in this battleground state, criticizing the Arizona senator for only now coming around to the idea of regulation needed to avert financial crises.

“All of a sudden it’s my goodness there’s greed on Wall Street, my goodness we need common sense regulation,” Biden said.

With polls showing Barack Obama has lost his lead in Ohio, Biden is embarking on a two-day bus tour of the state.

The Delaware senator told supporters at an outdoor rally that they have a choice between those who allow corporations and the wealthy to go "unfettered” and those who want “common sense rules” to protect transparency.

“Look, if John cares so much about this now, where was he a week ago?” Biden asked. “Where was he a month ago? Where was he 5 years ago? I’ll tell you where he was, he was bragging to the folks on Wall Street, to the executives who now he calls ‘greedy.’ He was bragging to them how we’re going to shred the regulation that fetters them, that ties them down.”

“So let’s take a look at John’s conversion here,” Biden later added, “Something happened on the road to Damascus, John fell off his horse but he got back up on the same horse.”

He went on to draw parallels with McCain’s health care plan, saying that there too McCain favors de-regulation that wouldn’t allow states to protect its residents from insurance companies.

“So John, you got back on the same horse, you continue to push a plan that’s designed to de-regulate the health insurance industry,” said Biden, asking the crowd to raise their hands if they trust insurance companies to take care of their needs.

“I got one person [who] raised their hand. I got also a bridge I got to sell you and guess what? It’s in Alaska and it goes to nowhere,” he said, echoing a line Obama has been using on the stump as well.


Filed under: Economy • Joe Biden • John McCain • Ohio
soundoff (333 Responses)
  1. Laverne

    Phantom you are as silly as you sound. First of all, I dare you speak for all Hillary supporters, and second Obama has been saying and trying to get the American people to pay attention to what is going on in this country and stop sleeping at the wheel for the past 2 years. Obviously you are not a democrat because Clinton and Obama views pale in difference. You are a sore loser who continue to make excuses for why you refuse to vote for Obama. It is people like you who are the disgrace, you have the nerve to judge this man because he had the AUDACITY to run for president just like the rest of them and actually won the nomination. I know you must think you are an intelligent person spewing your words of hate and devisiness, but be clear about this, Obama will be the next POTUS and you madam can't do a thing about it. Maybe you should consider moving to canada or Europe, oh wait they support Obama too. This election is bigger than YOU!

    September 17, 2008 01:52 pm at 1:52 pm |
  2. Sarah's a celebrity, But is she ready to lead?

    SOUND THE ALARM! WAKE UP PEOPLE. THE MCCAIN-PALIN TICKET IS A JOKE. DON'T BUY INTO THIS. YOU CA'NT JUST ALL OF SUDDEN BE ABOUT CHANGE, WHEN YOU HAVE DEFENDED THE STATUS QUO OVER AND OVER AGAIN. THE LAST TIME WE WERE STUPID WE GOT BUSH. MCCAIN-PALIN POLICIES ARE THE SAM AND THE ONLY DIFFERENCES ARE THINGS THAT WOULD MAKE US WORST OFF. PRIVATIZING SOCIAL SECURITY ? IN THIS MARKET? ALLEN GREENSPAN SAID MACCAIN TAX CUTS WILLL LEAD TO ECONOMIC DISASTER!

    September 17, 2008 01:54 pm at 1:54 pm |
  3. Caucasian Women for Democrat

    It is quite obvious why Lynn Forester de Rothschild is decideing to endorse senator Mc Cain, her company totally falls under Mc Cains tax break, whereas under senator Obama's she would have to give back a little more to the poor to help balance the equation. Who needs her anyways...i surely did not know who she was, besides she seems and sounds like sour grape to me...so i say what the he*l....let her join Mc Cain's clan. She and the Mc Cain's probably go to the same elite social clubs anyways....elites...

    Mc Cain is no reformer and neither is Palin! I am a woman and the more i watch and listen to Palin redundant speeches and interview, the more she comes accross as a shady hustler. Notice how she lower her voice tone and squints one eye during her speeches and interviews with Gibson. Only a racketeer makes thes kind of gestures..

    September 17, 2008 01:54 pm at 1:54 pm |
  4. John McShame

    John McLame says, “I don’t know much about the economy, I still need to be educated”

    “It would be acceptable if we had to stay in Iraq for another 100 years.”

    We need to “bomb, bomb, and bomb Iran”

    “I have voted with Bush 90% of the time because he has been right 90% of the time”

    Sarah Failin says,

    “I have foreign policy experience because you can see Russia from Alaska and I went to Mexico on vacation once.”

    “I welcome any investigation into my past because I have nothing to hide, oh never mind I will not meet with any investigators for any reason ever.”

    She believes the Bush Doctrine is a “World View” hahaha

    She says she said “No Thanks” for the Bridge to nowhere when she was actually the one who got it approved

    She says we may have to go to war WITH RUSSIA

    She decreased her own responsibilities when she was the mayor of a town small enough to be run by a fifth grader

    September 17, 2008 01:54 pm at 1:54 pm |
  5. Michelle, PA

    Go Joe! Where was McCain a month ago, you ask? Getting his economic policies spoon-fed to him by Phil "Whiners" Gramm, who rammed through legislation written by his Wall Street lobbyist pals which dropped the very regulations that would have, if not stopped this mess, at least cushioned the fall and given us a hope for a soft landing. Might have saved a few tens of thousands of jobs, too. The same Phil "Whiners" Gramm who is still an economic adviser to the McCain campaign. And don't forget the input of Carly "Fire Em All" Fiorina, who ran HP into the ground and got booted by her own board. Way to try to look like you've changed your stripes, Johnny "Keating 5" McCain!

    September 17, 2008 01:54 pm at 1:54 pm |
  6. Mark of Tenn

    Way to go Joe,
    I'm sick and tired too.
    So this is my take on it.

    September 17, 2008 01:55 pm at 1:55 pm |
  7. John in Ohio

    Olivia: "If McCain is geriatric, so is Biden. Matter of fact he was in the senate longer than McCain. The Obama people is blaming McCain for EVERY SINGLE THING THAT HAS GONE WRONG IN THIS COUNTRY. What about the do-nothing senate? Do they get blamed for anything?"

    There's a difference between voting the right way on the issues, like Biden has, and voting the wrong way, like McCain has. It's not time in Washington that is the issue, it's what those people do with their time. McCain pushed for the mortgage industry to be deregulated. Look where we are now. He pushed for this long before we had the Senate we have now, a Senate that IS NOT Democrat controlled, but is split right down the middle. The "Democrat majority" in the Senate is Lieberman's vote, Lieberman, the guy who has endorsed McCain and who spoke at the RNC convention. Yeah, the Democrats really control the Senate. The fact is that, without a 2/3 majority in the Senate, any Senate that has a lame duck obstructionist President LIKE BUSH will not get anything done.

    September 17, 2008 01:55 pm at 1:55 pm |
  8. I Love my COUNTRY!

    America for Obama – Alot of what you've written I've read elsewhere too from several reputable sources so I know atleast most of what you say is true. mcain falls right in line with the 'agenda' but sadly alot of rethuglicans just don't want to know the truth, they are truly sheep. Would they ever be shocked to know how the gov really runs. Thanks for the Info!

    September 17, 2008 01:55 pm at 1:55 pm |
  9. Tina

    Sarah Palin IS CLUELESS........Really how stupid does John McBUSH think we are. He hires all these people to HELP HER MEMORIZE Answer to questions. He takes her out in public.......PLANTS so called random people in the audiance to ask her STAGED QUESTIONS. She peeks on her hand to check her cliff notes. Then aswers the way she has be instructed. She is a PHONEY DISTRACTION. If John McBUSH believes that he is the right candidate for the job.......WHY WON'T HE STICK TO THE ISSUES INSTEAD OF PLAY GAMES. This serious business................

    GOD HELP US if these the idiots win this election. John McCain and Sarah Palin DO NOT CARE ABOUT HELPING THE COUNTRY PROSPER...............The two of them ONLY WANT TO BE IN THE WHITE HOUSE..........PERIOD.

    THEY ARE TWO OF THE MOST SELFISH, THOUGHTLESS, SELF CENTERED PEOPLE WHO MAKE ME SICK.

    September 17, 2008 01:55 pm at 1:55 pm |
  10. Anita from Arizona

    Don't get it twisted Republicans, the Democrats are UNITED no matter what you think. We have the facts on our side, you only have personal attacks to throw. Everythin I get into a conversation about which candidate is better, Obama wins hands down, WHY?? Because he is telling truth, he has not changed his positions on issues, he is a UNIFIER. Republicans are lieing, flip flopping their positions, contridicting themselves. FACT: McCain economic adviser, Gramm spear headed the DEREGULATION which CAUSED the SUBPRIME mortgage meltdown, which triggered the markets to crash and banks to go under. Can you trust McCain to fix it now??? This is not a talking point, this is not a lie. It is fact, people. His judgment is totally in question. He can't even vet his VP pick properly, or maybe he doesn't care to, which equals POOR JUDGMENT.

    September 17, 2008 01:56 pm at 1:56 pm |
  11. Former McCain

    I have to agree with Biden. McCain has fallen from the person I supported in 2000.

    Voting Obama/Biden this year.

    September 17, 2008 01:56 pm at 1:56 pm |
  12. ANAG LOS ANGELES, CA

    good job Mr. Vice President

    September 17, 2008 01:56 pm at 1:56 pm |
  13. Sissy

    The bailout of AIG by the Federal Reserve as a government bailout; in fact the Federal Reserve is as much a privately own corporation as AIG.
    For Mitt Romney to come on national TV and subscribe to the ideal that the Federal Reserve is a government agency shows the extent the republicans and our government officials are willing to distort the truth.
    America is being soldout and it's not the American people who will benefit.

    September 17, 2008 01:56 pm at 1:56 pm |
  14. gregg

    obama/clinton 08

    September 17, 2008 01:56 pm at 1:56 pm |
  15. judy mitchell

    I'm a retired working woman with 40 years administrative experience. I feel more qualified than McCain's Barbie Doll. Most women do too. Women have been deferred to for so many years by the good ole boy network they are willing to vote for anyone with lipstick. Its very sad for the woman's movement that I have supported since the early 60's to have to watch more and more women demean common sense by supporting someone so in-experienced. If she were ever in a position to be President, it would take more than the Fed to bail us out, speaking of which: Bridge Loan to AIG, another bridge to nowhere.

    September 17, 2008 01:56 pm at 1:56 pm |
  16. Independent-Latina-for-OBAMA

    @ Go Sarah! Hey the far-right-GOP has Faux....... I mean Fox news!

    Bush/Cheney/McCain/GOP= 600,000 jobs lost, war with Iraq for oil; a national debt of ....$10 TRILLION........ more lies, torture, total disregard for the Constitution and the Geneva Convention!

    MCCAIN'S ALREADY LYING........ FOOLING US......... PLEASE AMERICAN WAKE UP!

    September 17, 2008 01:57 pm at 1:57 pm |
  17. MEG

    For all those demanding to know where Biden was five years ago – he was fighting for us in the Republican-majority Senate.

    Compare his voting record (and other Democrats) to the Republicans' records. How they voted on each issue. You'll see who brought this country to our knees. The Republicans. You must be so proud of yourselves.

    September 17, 2008 01:57 pm at 1:57 pm |
  18. Ex-Republican for Obama

    McCain's judgement in everything he has ever done has been lacking any and all common sense. He is the champion of poor decision making and a role model of how to succeed despite being a failure. The trick: just become a republican, they are gullible/ignorant enough to adopt failures as their leaders.

    Obama/Biden '08

    September 17, 2008 01:57 pm at 1:57 pm |
  19. Tony, LA

    Keating 5 folks....google/yahoo it...

    September 17, 2008 01:57 pm at 1:57 pm |
  20. canuck

    yeah sure. biden has been in the senate for 36 years and he is so in touch. these dem clowns won't fix anything. gov't will get more involved and mess up more things.

    one more thing to my cdn "bros" and "sis" mentioning that you are canadian and support barry – keep doing it as it help my team win. bunch of toronto idiots.

    M/P 08!

    September 17, 2008 01:57 pm at 1:57 pm |
  21. rick

    how in the world would this country even think about putting these crooks back in power,if america does that,then america deserves everything that comes to her in the future,in you guys cant blame the democrats.

    September 17, 2008 01:58 pm at 1:58 pm |
  22. SW Washington St.

    Go get'm Joe!!! POple he is dead on. At least Obama can pick a V.P that knows what the Bush Doctran is..... Were election A president not american idol people... This is serious stuff.. I dont wasnt to go to war any more.. Almost half my life we have been in a war and both my at war . Enough is enoug....
    Obama Biden

    September 17, 2008 01:58 pm at 1:58 pm |
  23. Phil Newton in Murphy, Oregon

    McCain: Against financial regulation before he was for it.

    Palin: For that bridge before she was against it.

    Both: Lying through their teeth every day.

    UNBELIEVABLE change.

    OBAMA 08

    September 17, 2008 01:58 pm at 1:58 pm |
  24. Cowboy

    It is an outrage for the media/CNN to present the bailout of AIG by the Federal Reserve as a government bailout; in fact the Federal Reserve is as much a privately own corporation as AIG.For Mitt Romney to come on national TV and subscribe to the ideal that the Federal Reserve is a government agency shows the extent the republicans and our government officials are willing to distort the truth. America is being soldout and it's not the American people who will benefit.!!!!

    September 17, 2008 01:58 pm at 1:58 pm |
  25. mlh84

    Ask how many jobs Obama created as a state senator. Answer, absolutely none. He lost 11% of jobs in his district while he was a state senator.

    September 17, 2008 01:59 pm at 1:59 pm |
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