September 17, 2008
Posted: 07:29 PM ET

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Biden shifted his language on the AIG bailout Wednesday.
Biden shifted his language on the AIG bailout Wednesday.

WOOSTER, Ohio (CNN) - A day after saying the federal government should not come to the rescue of insurance giant AIG, Democratic VP nominee Joe Biden shifted his position Wednesday, saying he needs to get more details on the terms of the $85 billion bailout.

"The truth is I don't know what the bailout is yet," Biden said Wednesday afternoon in Maysfield, Ohio. "It looks like they're lending them a little bit of money. I don't know what they've done, I haven't had a brief on it. I haven't spoken to the Secretary of the Treasury."

Biden's answer struck a different tone than his Tuesday reaction. "No, I don't think they should be bailed out by the federal government, I'll tell you what we should do," he said on NBC's Today Show. "We should try to correct the problems that caused this. And what's caused this? The profligate tax cuts to the very, very wealthy that John [McCain] wants to continue. What has caused this is the failure to have regulation…It's this government's policies that have caused [the middle class] to get in great trouble."

Before Biden's Wednesday comments, Barack Obama released a statement saying that any arrangement should protect families that count on the company's insurance.

"It should bolster our economy's ability to create good-paying jobs and help working Americans pay their bills and save their money. It must not bail out the shareholders or management of AIG," said Obama.

A spokesman for the Delaware senator released a statement Wednesday aligning Biden with Obama.

"Joe Biden made it clear that nobody likes bailouts, and we should never have been put in this deep hole as a country," said spokesman David Wade. "Taxpayers shouldn't have to be asked to clean up another mess. But here we are. Senator Obama and Senator Biden agree that whatever happens, the Fed needs to make sure it protects the families that count on insurance, bolsters our ability to create good-paying jobs, and helps working Americans pay their bills and save their money. The answer isn't to bail out the shareholders or management of AIG."

Filed under: Joe Biden


KATHLEEN   September 18th, 2008 10:36 am ET

Rex
Ron Paul is a Republican! An idiot that wants to take our entitlements
away!!!!!! He just speaks in a mousy tone, but the message on the
economy is the same. NO BIG Government means, YOU, the people
are on your own. And we ship your jobs overseas. Ron Paul is a
soft spoken idiot!!!

Dr Jeckyll Island   September 18th, 2008 6:41 am ET

They are not Federal and there are no Reserves

bennie texas   September 18th, 2008 1:17 am ET

mccain dont wear a flag pin, that ok, but if obama dont wear one he is not amer. some ont please answer this for me texas for obama 08 the woman on tvday said she wont vote for ob, the reason is because he is black why they they wont say that.i

princedlw7   September 18th, 2008 12:41 am ET

It sounds to me like he might actually want to study the details before he commits to a hard position. Conservatives call that being wishy-washy or a flip-flopper. Anyone else calls that being proactive to changes in circumstances. If anyone is interested, the ability to execute, evaluate, replan and re-execute is an absolute necessity in the real world or in the business world. The only place where that kind of fundamentalist type pig-headedness works is in republican presidential politics.

We are going down the tubes financially. WAKE UP!! We need leadership that won't simply go down with the ship because they were too proud (or stupid) to change.

Mike   September 18th, 2008 12:30 am ET

I wish the US would go back to being a Capitalist system. This recession is only going to get worse since either party that is elected is just going to implement more Socialist policies. Too bad Ron Paul didn't win the Republican nod, at least then America would have stood a chance at not being overtaken by China as the world superpower.

Tom   September 18th, 2008 12:25 am ET

It's clear to me the Bush/Cheney administration (Treasury Department) has decided to bail out the companies who have agreed to pay them off after they have left office with lucrative jobs or advisory consultant jobs or perhaps speaking engagements. Without a doubt it's 'quid pro quo' deal. It's just another imprisionable offense for #43 and crew just like the war in Iraq rationale.

KATHLEEN   September 18th, 2008 12:24 am ET

We are about to lose our WHOLE LIfe's savings and CNN is reporting
on Biden soundbite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Biden is a great guy   September 18th, 2008 12:23 am ET

Biden may not be suave and sticks his foot in his mouth sometimes, but I trust him. He is one of us. He is more one of us then either Republican trying to get my vote

ginger   September 18th, 2008 12:22 am ET

Question:

Do you people feed off not having accurate definitions of words and meaning? Stop, take deep breath and look up what words mean and put them the proper context.

KATHLEEN   September 18th, 2008 12:22 am ET

And WHO came up with this title, CNN? WHO? "Biden "waffles
on AIG bailout. CNN, It is the media, YOU! that will have to answer
to hard hit Americans if McCain Palin win this election. Your "reporting"
is very dismal and flawed!!!! CNN gets worse by the day. What the
haites are you afraid of? The Republicans have "robbed" this nation\
and you are not reporting this travesty.

If Obama loses, CNN will be responsible.Or get "responsible with
"real news". This one above is definitely "not newsworthy. Biden is
a good man that cares about Americans!

Obama Biden 2008

drew   September 18th, 2008 12:22 am ET

and yet mccain is the one who is out of touch.
and yet palin is the one who waffles on questions.

democrats are quick to point the finger. but let's take a closer look at YOUR candidates.

OBAMA GET'S IT!   September 18th, 2008 12:20 am ET

PALIN WAS ON FOX'S HANNITY TONIGHT, IT WAS A BIG JOKE AS IF HE WAS REALLY GOING TO PRESS HER, AS IF HE DOES NOT HAVE HIS NOSE UP THEIR BEHINDS. SHE PROBABLY HAD A COMPLETE SCRIPT AND COPY OF ALL QUESTIONS. YOU IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY?

inuk of the north   September 18th, 2008 12:19 am ET

Joe should fake a heart attac and get lost.

OB has enough problems without him.

Barbra Streisand raised 11,000,000 bucks in one night!

Obama/Streisand 08

aliou FL   September 18th, 2008 12:17 am ET

Where was CNN when Sarapalin was unable to answer a simple question from her audience?

Donald Trump has said one thing today that made me laugh a lot.

how can someone who has benefited and even wrote books on how to manipulate the market can accept any deregulation laying down?

The Trump quest is more tax for the rich, for tricle down. How about a trickle up Donald?

For the first time Trump, you made an investment you will wish you didn't put out on TV. Obama will be our next president. You Just Can"t bring yourself to see a superior strategist than one you crowned

Observer   September 18th, 2008 12:17 am ET

Stand up Chuck! Let'em see you….ohh …oh …. I'm the idiot who told a parapalegic to stand up. And you insipid liberals light up when Bush makes up or mispronounces a word. Palin is going to wipe the floor with this empty suit at the debate.

DB   September 18th, 2008 12:13 am ET

To "fix the broken" :
What "jimmy" was saying is;

"I AM A RACIST PERSON IN AMERICA. I HAVE TROUBLE ADMITTING THAT FACT , BECAUSE RASCISM COMES FROM COWARDICE AND IGNORANCE. SO I AM GOING TO REPEAT SOMETHING I 'HEARED WAS SAID ON THE INTERNETS'- IN ORDER TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE I ACTUALLY HAVE A GOOD REASON TO VOTE FOR JOHN MCBUSH."

THAT was "jimmy's point- even if HE didn't understand it…

Tax Payer   September 18th, 2008 12:10 am ET

"It looks like they're lending them a little bit of money. I don't know what they've done, I haven't had a brief on it. I haven't spoken to the Secretary of the Treasury."

95 Billion dollars is a "little bit of money" ? Talk about not being in touch with reality.

Chuck   September 18th, 2008 12:10 am ET

The new Obama/Biden mantra:

"Waffles you can believe in."

Remember Biden is supposed to be the "experience" on the ticket.

HA HA NOT!

Canuck   September 18th, 2008 12:10 am ET

Help, Help!!! I live in Seattle and am surrounded by Kool-Aid drinking Democrats. When Mccain wins they will be looking for someone to burn. Jesus was a Republican, Pontious Pilot was a Democrat.

Matt   September 18th, 2008 12:07 am ET

Newest Republican spin from watching Larry King: Don't worry, the economy can recover in 50 some-odd days (sometimes)….we just have to "stay the course."

Wow. Just wow.

phil   September 18th, 2008 12:05 am ET

Cnn or some sections of it seem a bit biased towards Mccain. Is this
their way of making the elections more intreasting or is it is because
Mccain hired Cnn to make his autobiography

V   September 18th, 2008 12:02 am ET

I don't agree with his analysis of the cause of the problem but I do respect his honesty in admitting that he has not been briefed on the bailout. Biden seems like an alright guy. It is a shame that he is the #2 for such an inexperienced and liberal presidential candidate.

ruth   September 18th, 2008 12:00 am ET

CNN this is one of the most biased headlines and articles I have seen from you guys. McCain totally changed his story. But you didn't report on that. I haven't always agreed with you, but it seems like you are leaning more to the right each day. (Trying to be the new Fox)

bolsonon   September 17th, 2008 11:58 pm ET

I've always liked Joe Biden, all the way back to when he used to sit up in the balcony on the Muppets with that other old guy…

DB   September 17th, 2008 11:56 pm ET

CNN- WHY are you still "moderating" my last comment? there was NOTHING innapropriate.
JUST POST IT..

Walt, Belton,TX   September 17th, 2008 11:55 pm ET

Biden waffle. That's been the highlight of his 36 year career!

James   September 17th, 2008 11:50 pm ET

I think Joe Biden is off the mark and he is looking very politically motivated.

cecil   September 17th, 2008 11:44 pm ET

The Buck Stops With Sen. Obama, The Next President Of The U.S.A.

TruthBeTold   September 17th, 2008 11:43 pm ET

Its funny watching all you dems say that this is misleading and that CNN isnt reporting fairly….GIVE ME A BREAK….This is CNN actually reporting on both sides fairly for once…but since it goes against ur stupid democratic candidates…its unfair….PLEASEEE……and how come everyone keeps blaming bush?? Are the democrats trying to run against him or mccain?? Even Obama knows now that he cant compare john mccain to bush anymore!!! Besides, all these big companies that are going down the drain were run by democrats, so dont blame bush for this at all….you guys are unbelievable sometimes

Rex   September 17th, 2008 11:42 pm ET

Both parties knew what the plan was (to give a bridge loan to AIG, bail out Fannie and Freddie, etc, etc.). Now that it turned to crap, they are pointing fingers at eachother. Both parties are like two rivers flowing into the Mississippi. There is no difference. You know, Ron Paul is looking brighter and better each and every day. Thank you CNN, Fox, MSNBC, and the rest of the media for giving us only one choice.

DREADY1RASTA   September 17th, 2008 11:42 pm ET

Pssst…..CNN…..zip it up…..your Republican is hanging out.

Russell - in MO   September 17th, 2008 11:42 pm ET

I thought they were keeping Joe locked away in the Obama attic. I see they let him out to say something else stupid. The man cannot even finsh a sentence when asking questions at Senate Committee hearings. How is this CHANGE WE NEED? What a laugh. This is not change we need, he is the sort of old money-grubbing dino we want to change from!

Nexialist   September 17th, 2008 11:41 pm ET

I think it's disgraceful the way the media have gone after Biden and Republicans have gone after Biden. Never before have there been such over the top, angry, vengeful, attacks against a candidate……Oh, that would be Palin.

Kristen   September 17th, 2008 11:41 pm ET

CNN –
Knock it off! You constantly use these misleading, incendiary headlines that have little to do with the actual topic. Knock it off! You are contributing to the culture of hate and division that is tearing this country apart. You've used this faulty headline trick for both the GOP and the Dems, and it's ridiculous. The man answered a question honestly–other politicians can learn something from Joe Biden. Since when does asking for more info equal waffling?

Matt   September 17th, 2008 11:40 pm ET

Where's the waffling? It's not inconsistent to say you're against bailouts but pragmatic enough to admit we've been left with no choice. You went too far with the headline this time.

Keep it real CNN. Don't just pander for link-clicking to up your ad revenue.

Ha!   September 17th, 2008 11:38 pm ET

BTW….This "bailout"….or loan is a bad idea. It's basic….Rich Parents…instead of letting their children learn the hard way and punishing them…they're like "oh, okay honey here's 85 billion dollars." So in the end the child learns that "oh! I don't have to be responsible because they'll bail me out any way!"

Republicans are treating the economy how they would their children….bad parents.

Dylan   September 17th, 2008 11:34 pm ET

"..The answer isn't to bail out the shareholders or management of AIG."
It's OBVIOUS that's what Joe Biden meant. Nobody thinks it is good to bill taxpayers for risky investment decisions made by executives.

Alexander Marquardt I beg to differ with your conclusion. You seem to have taken what Joe said out of context.

Mike, Syracuse NY   September 17th, 2008 11:32 pm ET

Only a 3 decade Democratic Senator could call $85 billion 'a little bit of money'. The man is clueless as is Obama.

Independent NV Voter   September 17th, 2008 11:29 pm ET

Yes. I also saw that Bush is blocking pows from suing Iraq for I beleive violations of the Geneva Convention. Unfortunately if you remember the hoopla over how Iraq prisoners were treated by our soldiers pretty much opens the US up to similar lawsuits. But if these incidents happened, then everyone should have to face the consequences.

marty   September 17th, 2008 11:27 pm ET

UMMMMMM. W A F F L E S!!!!!!!

Rick Treyas   September 17th, 2008 11:27 pm ET

I am trying desperately to understand what so many of the American people are not getting.
Just within the last couple of weeks we have ALL found out about Lehman Brothers, 158 years as one of the USA’s largest holdings firm’s now out of business!
Merrill Lynch, One of the largest investment companies IN THE WORLD and the first company to publish an annual fiscal report on WALL STREET, Bought Out!
Now today I just heard about the American International Group! Probably the Largest Insurance agency IN THE WORLD in desperate condition and needing tens of billions of dollars to be bailed out or bought out!
What’s Next America? The Federal Reserve?
I simply do not understand what is being misunderstood! For the last eight years of Republican rule the Economy world wide has been thrashed, but McCain has told everyone that “the fundamentals of the Economy are strong?” After that McCain say’s “Um What I meant was the fundamentals are the Workers of America?” Either way there is nothing secure or strong about the economy or jobs in the US, when major financial giants start going down like dominos. The Republicans are tossing so much rhetoric around that they are trying to confuse the US public and seem to be succeeding at it to a large degree. Smoke Screening! My God people! The US is in dire shape Economically, not to mention Globally disliked to the point of it being DANGEROUS FOR US ALL! And allot of American’s seem to want more of it? The last eight years have been a disaster because of a Republican Government that has been more concerned with lining their own pockets than securing a healthy economy, and now the very same kind of people are about to be elected again? Have we forgotten about McCain supporting over 90% of George Bushes decisions that have put us ALL in jeopardy? Mr. McCain represents the same Government that currently resides! Where are you going to get more capitalist support than from McCain and Palin? What is it that people are expecting from these two? To turn a Government around that they represent?
On top of everything else, there are many unhappy country’s with the USA right now. What are right wing supporters wanting? A 3rd World War?

MCAINNOW!   September 17th, 2008 11:24 pm ET

Waffle away Joe we love Sarah she's smarter than
Hillary and prettier too!!!!!! You can't even see russia from your dumb train. ONLY AN IDIOT TAKES THE TRAIN WHEN HE COULD HAVE A LIMO!!!!!!!

Julie   September 17th, 2008 11:22 pm ET

The AIG bailout by the Federal Reserve caught everyone in Congress by surprise.

Tuesday, word of a possible AIG bailout circulates in the financial community, Congress and elsewhere.

Responsibly Biden voices hesitancy about an $85 billion dollar bailout, which will ultimately fall on taxpayers.

By Wednesday morning, the Federal Reserve announces it's a done deal.

Wednesday afternoon, Biden says the truth: he needs more details and no one in Congress has them, even the party leaders had not to date been briefed.

Today, Thursday, the White House announces a forthcoming meeting between top Congressional leaders, WH economists and representatives of the Federal Reserve to get Congressional leaders better informed on the matter.

Clearly, Biden did no waffle on this matter.

Bad title CNN.

Pennsylvania   September 17th, 2008 11:19 pm ET

flip flop democrats…..what do they think you wanna hear?

Marc PDX   September 17th, 2008 11:18 pm ET

Spoken like a true politician!

Ronald   September 17th, 2008 11:16 pm ET

Yeah interesting that Conservative News Networks has ticker for the VP candidate and non on the Republican candidate for President that did the exact same thing.

Tooele, Utah.   September 17th, 2008 11:14 pm ET

After reading so much for the past couple months about the election I've learned that our country is going to be horribly divided at the end. It doesn't matter who wins this election, Democrats or Republicans, this country is going to be split in half. Both parties always talk about how they are going to unify our country, but I think that is too late. People are bickering over the smallest of things, and many of you are making up stuff just to start an argument. I've read many things on CNN blogs that I just see are just plain out lies. I'm tired of you Republicans saying that Obama isn't American, that he shouldn't be allowed to run for president. That is just a plain lie don't just start throwing things out there to get people all riled up. It makes you look like a 6 year old.

There is too much hate going on in here too. If you all want to be a unified country we need to act more respectfully to each other. Calling someone names for their party affiliation isn't going to help the problem, it is just going to add more to it. This is for both parties. Everyone is just back-and-forth back-and-forth on the attacks. And we need to stop with all these "Well he said something bad about Palin so I'm going to call the Sexist Card and make everything all better." or "Well she just said how Obama is an elitist I'm going to say that is racism." Those kind of comments are not needed in this election. Everyone should be treated equally so if the Republicans are allowed to attack the Democrats than the Democrats should be allowed to attack the Republicans, and vice-versa.

Now people if you all want to live in a more unified country than you have to stop with all the prejudice you have with the opposite party. Yes they may have some different views from yours, but everyone of those parties brings something that could help this country. So whoever wins this Presidential election I hope everyone will drop all the prejudice and help create a more unified country.

Eric   September 17th, 2008 11:14 pm ET

Waffle Joe. If McCain or Palin did this all the TV stations would have this as their top story. Yet another way the media basis has gotten into this campaign.

Report it   September 17th, 2008 11:14 pm ET

coming from a reporter….yeah, waffles….not the right word. Sounds like someone trying to draw parallels to Kerry that don't exist. Work on that reporting. Both sides would be nice.

sevans1969   September 17th, 2008 11:14 pm ET

What about McCain's collosal waffle, CNN?

What about McCain's newfound belief in government regulation? Is that not the largest waffle ever?

Report the news!

mrsb   September 17th, 2008 11:14 pm ET

I would hope he is not an expert on it! Who is? Aren't we all waffling about that? We want whoever is responsible for this banking mess to be accountable, but we don't want more financial institutions to fail. I suspect we will all waffle for a while. Sometimes it is wise to admit you don't have all the answers.

jo   September 17th, 2008 11:13 pm ET

Is still on the ticket?

Catherine   September 17th, 2008 11:10 pm ET

Isn't it strange that when Joe Biden states he didn't have enough info he is accused of "waffling".

Isn't strange that McCain and Palin can state no bailout should take place and then state it was right to do but they are NOT accused of "waffling".

At least we know Joe Biden is not afraid of telling the TRUTH.

How about it, McCain and Palin, don't you think it is time you both started to state the TRUTH.

Truth never hurt anyone. Lying hurts plenty of people. America needs truthfulness. We don't need untruths.

Pat   September 17th, 2008 11:07 pm ET

I agree Joe by no means waffled on this issue. He told the truth as he knew it and stated what he didn't know and what he would have to check out due to not having a current report ! How could he be more honest? Pales in comparison to Palin and McSame. Palin's answer to her experience in International Affairs was her feelings of Confidence and Readiness! Huh? Boy that gives me a really good feeling about the possiblilty of her being in charge of the Red Phone and BUTTON! Nightmare!

Dennis   September 17th, 2008 11:06 pm ET

Biden is supposed to be a Senate leader and he doesn't know ANYTHING about the bailout???? This shows that BOTH Democrats on the ticket are empty suits.

Eric   September 17th, 2008 11:05 pm ET

BS your cracking me up saying "stop Palin and Rove from destroying social security" its already in the toilet genius, humor me and explain how they'll do that.

hurriCAIN PALIN   September 17th, 2008 10:59 pm ET

democraps…defend your silly candidates

Tyrone Brown   September 17th, 2008 10:57 pm ET

Waffles? Who comes up with these tag-lines for CNN? It should of read – Biden seeks more information on AIG bailout. This is the real news. At least he isn't John "the economy is fundamentally strong" McCain, who "waffles" at a drop of hat when it comes to the Bush/Cheney economic policies he has either voted for or ignored over the years. Biden wanted to be debriefed and understand the full implication of the bailout. How refreshing!

OBAMA/BIDEN '08

Eugene   September 17th, 2008 10:57 pm ET

You say "waffle", I say "needing a little more facts".

Lone Star Wolf   September 17th, 2008 10:56 pm ET

WHAT BULLCRAP BIDEN IS PUTTING OUT. IF YOU BUY THIS IS ALL McCAIN'S FAULT THEN YOU ARE SURROUNDED BY SHARKS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MOJAVE DESERT.

NolaTraci   September 17th, 2008 10:55 pm ET

and now we the people are paying to investigate an Alaska Governor's email woes…WOW…really? where will it stop? is this our government's idea of divine selection or corporate darwinism? anyone for a write-in candidate that can actually lay out a plan for change, unify and LEAD the U.S. away from this horrid High School Musical/American Idol election coverage? ANYONE? ANYONE?

Wayne. Ca   September 17th, 2008 10:51 pm ET

The repubs had a week in the sunlight with the polls as I predicted, mow its time to turn it slowly around.

Who wants proven liars in the white house, understandable.

Obama / Biden 08

Mack   September 17th, 2008 10:50 pm ET

Whats new..We didnt want him for President, why VP. Obama has waffeled also,,,where is that blog..We democrats failed when we threw Hillary under the bus..Sarah Palin looked smart tonight…

DB   September 17th, 2008 10:50 pm ET

To "Fix the broken":
"Jimmy's" point was: "I AM A RASCIST PERSON IN AMERICA. I have trouble admitting that, because racism comes from cowardice and ignorance. So I am going to repeat something I HEARD WAS SAID ON THE INTERNETS- in order to make it sound like I have some a good reason to vote for John McBush".
THAT was "Jimmy's" point.
(even if HE didn't understand it…)

kneepads   September 17th, 2008 10:47 pm ET

bottom line if its walks like a duck ec.etc. its a duck .with all due respact for mcain.its a duck adam and eve.america wake the duck up bottom.ps more of the same duck in the bushes.

Debby   September 17th, 2008 10:46 pm ET

How many Gaffe's does this make so far. LOL

Erika, KS   September 17th, 2008 10:46 pm ET

Hello!! CNN, Dare you print anything I type today?
Joe Biden inserts foot in mouth all of the time. He's famous for it! Maybe next time, Biden will ask questions first before speaking out loud. Biden is nothing more than a career politician, and Obama demonstrates his poor decision making by choosing him.

karen   September 17th, 2008 10:44 pm ET

Everyone needs to get a grip. Throughout our history we have had wars, reversals of fortune, unrest. We're still here. And we will continue to be here. Why? Because, no matter what your political afilliations, gender, race, religion–whatever–we're Americans and we always persevere.

We've gotten soft and spoiled and lived beyond our means. Now, we need to tighten our belts and act like adults. It will turn around. If you're old enough, you know the cycles.

Relax. Enjoy. Stop being so verbally vicious to each other. Remember the way we were after 9/11? That's what Americans do, we pull together.

We're just sort of stuck in reality tv 24/7 and forgetting that we still have it so much better than the vast majority of the world. And no, we haven't lost our global standing.We still have it so much better than omost people in the world. People tend to sneer at the richest kids on the block, and we are still the richest kids.

Take a deep breath and realize you can weather anything.

And do what I'm going to do–vote none of the above. Peaceful anarchy for all.

SMILE for gosh sake!

Sam   September 17th, 2008 10:42 pm ET

CNN you should be ashamed. Biden said he was not in favor of a bailout but, once it occurred, wanted to see what they did before rushing to judgment. We WANT our leaders to think before they act, or react.

If the Bush Administration had put half a modicum of thought into the way they regulated, AIG wouldn't have needed a bailout.

amy Noir   September 17th, 2008 10:41 pm ET

i think bailout of AIG was must other we easily could have 20% Black October of 1987. Yes, we need comprehensive fixes, and now Money Market funds going under this could be worse to come.
We cannot afford McCain who has no comprehension about ECON 101
Amy

KC   September 17th, 2008 10:40 pm ET

Thank G*d, someone who will admit they don't have the total answer. Thats what the problem is with McCain/Palin they will never admit they don't have the total answer! Just ask any CEO of a company, if they don't know the answer they will say "I'll get back to you on that". Shoud not the leaders of our country say the same thing?

Charles L. Shaw   September 17th, 2008 10:40 pm ET

Today is Constitution day, and this voter is not getting fooled again by CNN, or either of the two major political parties who have been in power for the last fifty years of my life.
What we have is a US federal Government out of control, neck deep in debt, and with no chance of taxing their way out of this debt, where are we now, how many sets of books are we keeping this debt on? I believe we are now approching 60 trillion ( that is Trillion) in debt.
Neither party has a plan to reduce spending, in fact both have plans to add more regulation, more agencies, commitees, and more spending to fix our debt.
There is only one party with a plan to reduce spending, reduce debt, balance budgets, and bring freedom and liberty and the rule of Constitutional law back to our great country, his name is Bob Barr,.
Join with me, it is time we show the type of courage our founding fathers had when they decided to free themselves and their country from England. These men knew if their plans failed they all faced certain death. We need to show that type of courage again, and free ourselves from the two major parties that have lead this country to the brink of ruin.
Vote this fall for your freedom and Liberty vote Bob Barr vote Libertarian.

Jack   September 17th, 2008 10:39 pm ET

Well – At least BIDEN can answer a direct question – and be firm about his answer. OBama responds with "Present" – again – he has to wait for his campaign to come up with the "Politically Correct" response.

Obama is a FRAUD.

Marie Canada   September 17th, 2008 10:38 pm ET

McCain is one who waffled completely and Biden says he doesn't know the details and needs more information. CNN you are a gutless and biased news station as the GOP have you too scared to do your job properly.. Time to go back to more credible news casts.

john   September 17th, 2008 10:33 pm ET

Well. It stinks. I saw it on the washington post.

Do not kid yourself. But it is her fault. I'm sure that there are policies, etc. that says an employee can't do this. And this is the reason. I bet a low level employee may be fired.

Only a few emails are shown, but the person who did this should have all of them. Reading the group's hacking behavior, worse is to come.

I am just amazed how crocked the AK gov'ment is. And to hear indignation is just weird. It would not have ever happened if she were clean. And it could run another Gov out of office. But not in AK.

If I was form AK, I would be really embarrased.

hey-liberals...   September 17th, 2008 10:31 pm ET

…. Joe who ??

maynard hopkins wi   September 17th, 2008 10:31 pm ET

JOE BIDEN JUST DOESN'T GET IT….. IF YOU WANT A DEPRESSION THEN DON'T BAIL ANY BANK OUT…….THIS IS HOW FAR JOE BIDEN IS OUT OF TOUCH FOLKS, AND THIS GUY SAYS McCAIN IS OUT OF TOUCH………..VERY INTERESTING

Al   September 17th, 2008 10:30 pm ET

Biden is far, far more consistent and experienced than McCain or Palin (sorry for such a low bar comparison). He reasons, gives good judgment and good thoughts instead of sound bites.

I'm not even talking about Bush + bed temper and Bush + even more extremism, their lies make me sick.

Obama/Biden 2008

BK   September 17th, 2008 10:29 pm ET

Obama didn't have an answer about AIG. He doesn't know if he is for it or against it. He is voting PRESENT for the 130th time. Obama can't make a decision. He is a joke.

Wes   September 17th, 2008 10:27 pm ET

How is what he said "waffled"? He said he didn't know the terms of the bail out and needed more information. I'd much rather hear that from someone than a knee jerk reactionary one liner. I think Joe's response was the appropriate response.

Sue in MI   September 17th, 2008 10:27 pm ET

I think someone should hire Suze Orman as Treasury Secretary! She even said that this bailout had to happen because they are so many people with insurance through AIG. I don't fault Biden's original remark, and sometimes you need to think things through…which is difficult when a reporter needs a sound bite NOW.

Bulldog   September 17th, 2008 10:26 pm ET

This by NO means meets the definition of waffling. This is a very BIASED headline by CNN. I thought you people were supposed to be independent.

Moderate   September 17th, 2008 10:26 pm ET

Biden: "It looks like they're lending them a little bit of money."

Right, I suppose to elitists like Obama and Biden, $85 billion is a drop in the bucket. So Obama, how many families' winter heating costs would that cover? How many communities can you organize or campaigns can you run with that? Give me a break. Obama's no brighter than W. McCain's not more of the same, Obama is.

Ian M   September 17th, 2008 10:25 pm ET

Why is it that when Bides waffles you make it a headline and when McCain waffles no one says ANYTHING about it?

Barb   September 17th, 2008 10:24 pm ET

The truth is I don't know what the bailout is yet," Biden said Wednesday afternoon in Maysfield, Ohio. "It looks like they're lending them a little bit of money.
So 85 billion is a little bit of money, nice maybe they can lendme some too. Why aren't people bothered by this, I don't have a problem with him needing more information I have a problem with him thinking 85 billion is a little bit of money. Geez.

Silky Terrier K   September 17th, 2008 10:22 pm ET

Joe was telling it straight. he needed more information. That is accurate and honest. I like that. He wants to know more and he will know more. That is so real and so manly I love it. Your headline is misleading. It was an excellent answer and he is an excellent man. Ready for the job and a real man.

Mike   September 17th, 2008 10:22 pm ET

Biden was right but Bush did it and we will have to make the best of it.

Bill   September 17th, 2008 10:22 pm ET

Joe Biden is a statesman. He expressed his opinion; then, qualified his decision based on his desire for information. Waffle? No more than President George H. Bush did when he compromised on increasing taxes. We may not like compromise, but this is politics and diplomacy. The sad truth is that AIG is about to be rewarded for taking high risks, expecting high returns, in a subsidary corporation. Which is a shell game to protect the greater corporated investors from the risks of speculation. Imagine a builder, who own two corporations to build houses. The first corporation builds houses "fee for service." The second corporation builds houses before they are sold, speculation. Because the builder has a good reputation, he can borrow money without a problem. He makes outstanding profits for a few years, and pays himself generously in salary and bonuses, keeping the corporation profitable but in debt. Then, the economy goes south, and corporation #2 has houses for sale and no buyers. The demise of corporation #2 has no effect on the profit or loss of corporation #1; however, if the builder can find a limited partner as the government, he can continue to pay himself a salary and bonuses. Anyone want to buy into a limited partnership? Has anyone ever bought into a limited partnership? Has anyone even got a return of their investment in a limited patnership?

Joseph   September 17th, 2008 10:21 pm ET

McCain is the one who categorically said he was against it yesterday and then this morning said it was the best possible move.

Biden simply said he had not been briefed on the details yet.

Please re-calibrate your "waffle" meter, CNN.

Amy   September 17th, 2008 10:21 pm ET

Why is Biden called out when he said he needs more information, but when McCain completely changes position on regulation/deregulation it's barely reported?

interesting   September 17th, 2008 10:21 pm ET

I guess he has been eating those Obama waffles lately. They must taste real good for this DNC ticket.

PUMA 2008!

Can you say Watergate??   September 17th, 2008 10:21 pm ET

1) what happens if members …plumbers from the Obama camop are implicated??

2) on AIG .. I don't know what they've done … the feds loan AIG 85 billion and it is important enough for you to use as a campaign issue but to quote you I don't know what they've done

Boy you sir are an idiot
"The truth is I don't know what the bailout is yet," Biden said Wednesday afternoon in Maysfield, Ohio. "It looks like they're lending them a little bit of money. I don't know what they've done, I haven't had a brief on it. I haven't spoken to the Secretary of the Treasury."

The Lady   September 17th, 2008 10:18 pm ET

Biden did not waffle he stated he needed all the facts before he could make a comment, he never said he agreeded. I wish the media would stop twisting everything around. Voters need to make their own decisions.

MikeH   September 17th, 2008 10:17 pm ET

CNN, you ignorant Republican hypocritical mouthpiece.

McCain OPPOSED the AIG bailout yesterday morning!

Today McCain ENDORSES the AIG bailout!

I bet you won't post this because it's a truth that flies in the face of your pro-Republican propaganda

capitalist   September 17th, 2008 10:16 pm ET

go ahead joe and barack…put your finger in the air and see which way the political wind is blowing before you make your decision on where you stand on this issue….this is par for the course…and they are supposed to fight terrorists? but those terrorists may not agree with them, they may have to get their opinion before making a decision!!…trifling

Eric-29-m-PA   September 17th, 2008 10:16 pm ET

This guy is clueless! Palin is more qualified than this guy. Instead of attacking McCain on the phrase he used yesterday to describe the economy, Biden should be paying attention to what's going on in the world and how he plans to help Americans.

r schier   September 17th, 2008 10:13 pm ET

Another example of a 2nd grader writing an article that kindergartners attempt to reach up to. He said blah blah yesterday, and blah blah today. Anyone who has publicly commented on this over the last few days is likely guilty of the same thing. Anyone who spoke on this – and there have been several – would necessarily have been speaking likely well before they should have to begin with, considering what it
would take to build a (hopefully) carefully considered stance. But,
they can only choose between speaking to soon, and not commenting at all, for which they'll recieve just a different criticism.

I'd like to see sites such as this devote far more time and energy on the specific issues, and less of the tabloid stuff. Maybe – just maybe – this would be a good influece for all others…..

Isaac   September 17th, 2008 10:12 pm ET

He didn't think government should bail them out, but then the government bailed them out anyways. What's done is done. What exactly is Biden supposed to do about it now?

Diana   September 17th, 2008 10:12 pm ET

bet it was a democrat the way they were bashing her hope you get caught

Barbara Campbell   September 17th, 2008 10:12 pm ET

Strange. CNN, you omitted any mention of McCain's waffling on the AIG bail-out.

Annie   September 17th, 2008 10:11 pm ET

Just like the waffling John McCain did on this very same subject over the same two days?

No Way, No How, No George McCain!   September 17th, 2008 10:11 pm ET

Um McCain did the EXACT SAME THING! Where is that story???

Bias?

steve   September 17th, 2008 10:11 pm ET

Hey John,
We'll cut Biden a break when you and the media cut Palin one. Her coverage has been an absolute disgrace to all that is America and come November, the Democrats will regret it.

NoMccain   September 17th, 2008 10:10 pm ET

If there was a spot for a Write-in candidate on the ballot next to the Vice President slot, I'll bet that would throw a whole new twist on everything. But of course it would only lose a ton if Hillary supporters who would end up voting for the wrong person, the complete antithesis, in Palin.

pa for mccain/palin   September 17th, 2008 10:10 pm ET

what else is new with Biden
A FLIP here A FLOP there
democrats are all mouth cry and moan until they get there way

Susan   September 17th, 2008 10:10 pm ET

And McCain said the exact thing on GMA this morning. Report both sides CNN if you want to be journalists!

pa for mccain/palin   September 17th, 2008 10:08 pm ET

your do nothing democrats
are living up to it every time they open there mouth this is what happens NOTHING

Ray Fisher   September 17th, 2008 10:06 pm ET

Some kind of an insurance company if they need insurance themselves!!! They simply got greedy like all business and overextended themselves. I don't think any insurance company requiring a bailout should be trusted!!!

MEP   September 17th, 2008 10:06 pm ET

John McCain also waffled. Watch your own coverage!

TKW-New Mexico   September 17th, 2008 10:03 pm ET

This is a headline? He said he didn't have enough info and that's a bad thing?

Comment   September 17th, 2008 10:02 pm ET

Hey everyone abc news has an article discussing McCain shifting on AIG, you need to go there to get the other side of the coin.

linda from South Dakota   September 17th, 2008 10:00 pm ET

The Constitution acorrding to McCain.
We the rich few, who own more than six houses.
shall strive to bring this country too its knees.
By ignoring anyone who earns less than $500,000 p/a.
Cripple the econnomy and force big buisness to to beg us for bail out plans that involve then turning over at least 80% of their stock and pay for it with money from the poor taxpayers.

fixthebroken   September 17th, 2008 10:00 pm ET

jimmy, what's your point? I don't even understand what you are talking about.

Foreign Observer   September 17th, 2008 9:59 pm ET

How refreshing! Biden actually admits he didn't know enough details! McCain's strategy is "I never said that, and if I said it, I meant it to mean something entirely different, which includes both its opposite and the opposite of that, and did I mention I was a POW, you little jerk?"

JN   September 17th, 2008 9:59 pm ET

Wow you mccain/palin supporters are MEAN! Do not talk about how mean and nasty the obama supporters are..I have read some nasty stuff on here..You repubs are such hipocrits! You say the obama supporters are rude and ignorant but take a look at what you nasty people write!!!!

I would rather have Joe say he didn't know than have palin/mccain lie about it like they have done thru this whole campaign! That isn't a lie..that's the truth!!!

OBAMA GET'S IT!   September 17th, 2008 9:59 pm ET

CNN it's no difference than McCain & Palin both were all over the tv yesterday saying no more bailouts! The people, the people don't take from the people. Palin says "Im so glad they did not bail them out" today she saying that was the right thing to do TODAY ON FOX!

OBAMA AND BIDEN ALL THE WAY!

Sammy   September 17th, 2008 9:59 pm ET

Yes he did backtrack. But he did hedge in saying he needed to know more, which is fair. To me that means, as a campaign line, he will listen to the rationale behind the move and make a judgment accordingly. The big thing will be whether or not he will say that he was wrong and the Fed made the right choice.

Really think about it. This kind of bailout isnt giving money. Its a loan and thats the American way. And in this case AIG is paying a high interest rate and the taxpayers will get a good return on it. So really, we lose nothing and get paid interest.

smokesignals   September 17th, 2008 9:58 pm ET

I agree with Trish and Deb!
The fact that he wanted more information does not mean he is "waffling"! Come on CNN. Get to the facts and the truth for a change.
This kind of reporting makes me angry!
There is noone else to blame other than the Republicans and everyone knows it. There will be MANY problems and economic woes to try and fix, whether with government bailouts, help or changes in policy. Biden just called it like it is. The Dems will have to figure out a way out of this mess.

Elizabeth in Seattle   September 17th, 2008 9:57 pm ET

Biden did not waffle – it is called honesty. He had not gotten all of the information on AIG yet and probably would rather answer with knowledge then fudge and then be accused of foot in mouth disease again. Good for Senator Biden to want to be informed just like his running mate – Both Senators Obama and Biden would rather be informed and thoughtful before opening their mouths about something that they have not gotten the whole story on. I say that says alot about the two men we are going to elect to be our next President and Vice President because the last president and VP and current Republican presidential and vice presidential candidates all speak before they have full knowledge. Give me a break – Biden was right.

JB in Virginia   September 17th, 2008 9:56 pm ET

Is "waiting to get more information" waffling? I think that would constitute getting all the information before making a firm decision. And besides, there is certainly nothing wrong with changing your opinion on something, unless of course it is strictly for political gain (cough, John McCain). Google "McCains Youtube problem"

d   September 17th, 2008 9:56 pm ET

looking for clarification of the facts is NOT waffling..

Chris   September 17th, 2008 9:55 pm ET

These guys should never open their mouths before getting all the facts ….

Mark   September 17th, 2008 9:55 pm ET

WOW,,, CNN can say something bad about a Democratic candidate.

It is about time,,,

Joe R., NC   September 17th, 2008 9:54 pm ET

You idiots. Biden didn't waffle; he gave an honest answer reflecting his need for more information on the bailout.

Try getting a straight answer from Palin. Anyone watch the town meeting? How many times did McCain have to step in and try to expand on her one-liner answers?

She's an empty tube o' lipstick.

victor,nj   September 17th, 2008 9:52 pm ET

The VP debate between Biden and Palin would clinch the election for Obama. I just saw a clip on Larry King on a townhall meeting in which Palin was asked what foreign experience she has on foreign policy and she was clueless. McCain is a fool for picking her.

Obama/Biden 08

Ken   September 17th, 2008 9:50 pm ET

First, I think that Biden is totally the wrong choice for VP, as well as Obama not the best choice either for President. With that said, Biden is in no position to even know what is going on with the market, and with his net worth being what it is, I don't think it will even effect him.

Second, Part of the cause, besides what we already know that the CEO was greedy, that there are a lot of Americans are living beyond their means. Buying a house when they really cannot afford one. Living on credit instead of living on what they earn.

Plus this Democrat congress NOT providing the over sight of the banking industry, and protecting the American people that they have sworn to protect.

Ted   September 17th, 2008 9:50 pm ET

@ Scott L: No one is listening to you because you're wrong.

obama   September 17th, 2008 9:48 pm ET

There is no problem with what Biden said. He needs mor einformation to comment
What is wrong with that????????

Randy of Cleveland   September 17th, 2008 9:48 pm ET

For you people who are delusional and say McCain 08/ Clinton12 that makes completely no sense. First of if McCain wins it won't be Clinton in 2012 it will be Palin. By 2012 if McCain gets elected(God let's hope not for our sake) Palin will then have more experience than Clinton, she now would have been VICE PRESIDENT. Not just the WIFE of a President!!!! Also have you head in the clouds people heard of the point of no return??? Things are bad now and if they get worse I don't care who wins the election of 2012 they won't be able to turn things around. So lets get this straight, your ok with the country OUR country declining even more just so you can get your way in 2012. WOW that's the most selfish thing I've ever heard.
Cnn please post this

DB   September 17th, 2008 9:47 pm ET

Jimmy:
why go to the trouble to try to dig up old discredited smears to justify your vote for Mccain? It's a lot quicker to just admit you are an ignorant rascist…

REELAMERICAN   September 17th, 2008 9:46 pm ET

HEY JOHN 64…………..JOE BIDDEN HAS MORE MONEY THAN YOU DO .;…….AND RIDING THE AMTRACK IS HIS SELFISH ATTITUDE……….THAT ISNT A CHEAP RIDE ……HEY MAYBE AS A SENATOR HE RIDES FREE………….DID YOU KNOW OBAMA /JOE SCHMOE HAVE 99 BASES IN COLORADO TO TRY AND WIN THE STATE WITH EACH BASE MANNED TO THE GILLS AND WE ARE PAYING FOR THAT WASTE OF MONEY TOO AND HEY MAYBE WE SHOULD LEAVE THAT DEM BARNEY FRANK OVER THE BANKS FOR ANOTHE LIFETIME…………….MAYBE THE DEMS COULD FINISH US OFF MORE QUICKLY BUT NOT MORE PAINLESSLY………….ALL THESE OLD WHITE MALE DEMS IN POWER ………….OF OUR FINANCIAL FUTURE INCLUDING THE ONES THAT JUST CRASHED AND BURNED………..I DONT WANT THIS FOR MY FUTURE………PUT THEM [DEMS] IN CHARGE OF THESE INSTITUTIONS IN PRISON NOW………..FORGET IMPEACHING BUSH ……..WASTE OF OUR TIME AND MONEY ……….HES OUT THANK GOD……….OH DEMS DONT DO GOD OR GUNS …………THEY JUST RAPE AND PKLUNDER US POOR FOLKS………….THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THIS HAS HAPPENED…………STOCK MARKET FELL BELOW 1000 JUST A FEW YEARS AGO ………….YET THEY RAPE US AGAIN………..IT WILL FALL TOO 700 OR 800 AGAIN ………….WATCH…………..AND SEE…………

PoliticoPundit   September 17th, 2008 9:46 pm ET

$85 B is little bit of money for Biden, who has his earnings showed on Obama's website as $254,000 year .. I would like to see the that "REAL" tac return.

He is a Senetor and his wife is Dr. and he makes only $250,000??? another Rangel hiding income.

Barney   September 17th, 2008 9:46 pm ET

Maverick – unpredictable, reckless.

Just saying -

meck   September 17th, 2008 9:43 pm ET

My 2 year old son made me laugh today. He pointed at the CNN headline picture and called out the names of the two individuals. He said Obama, Obama………..and Grandpa.
Cant blaim him, he's only 2.

Meck, Vanc.

Gail, Milwaukee   September 17th, 2008 9:42 pm ET

Don't you people realize that McCain, Obama, and Biden are all part of the problem. They are the ones who have been in the Senate this last many years and did nothing to ward off or prevent the current crisis.

The three of them are insiders—the three of them are losers—and they are partially responsible for the mess.

Chris   September 17th, 2008 9:42 pm ET

Biden didn't switch views…he and Obama both opposed the AIG bailout which would have turned out to be the right decision, since the feds bailout did nothing.

It may have been "a different tone than his Tuesday reaction" but he still never supported the bailout.

Kind of a misleading headline CNN?

Lynn:60 yr old Obama supporter   September 17th, 2008 9:40 pm ET

JIMMY:NEWSFLASH: John McCain doesn't wear a flag pin!! and Obama does put his hand over his heart when the anthem is being played!!

KATHLEEN   September 17th, 2008 9:40 pm ET

CNN, why are you reporting a story such as this. I am sure
you could have mentioned that Biden stated that this was caused
by CEO's getting rich, robbing the banks and companies thru their
salaries and BIG BONUSES and we NOT REGULATED BY BUSH
and the BIG WIGS. Cheney got filthy rich off of the war!!!!

HOW MANY MORE COMPANIES ROBBED THE COMPANIES?
HOW MANY MORE COMPANIES WILL BE ON THE LIST OF GOVERNMENT BUYOUT. THIS IS BAD NEWS. The government
is forced to buy the companies for fear of a crash in the STOCK
MARKET. THAT IS EVERYBODYS LIFE SAVINGS. REMEMBER
ENRON!!!! Innocent people lost everything. If more companies
go under because of CEO's skimming off the top, the loss to
AMERICANs will be on a HUGE Level and will "break" our country.
Bush is leaving this mess to the next President. God save America.

McG   September 17th, 2008 9:40 pm ET

I'm still a little shocked how much I like Joe Biden. I wasn't prepared for that. As much as Mr. Biden talks openly to voters and the media there's bound to be a gaffe here or there. He's the most human and relatable of them all.

Billy. LA   September 17th, 2008 9:39 pm ET

Joe Biden—-do not show up at the debate on Oct. 2nd—-Sarah Barracuda is going to eat your lunch.

What a dunce. Get Hillary on the ticket quick.

Sara   September 17th, 2008 9:39 pm ET

"I need more information" is a perfectly acceptable response and not waffling.

foreigner in the US   September 17th, 2008 9:38 pm ET

That's why Mccain and Biden are old time Washington pros. First they are for it, then thy are not sure ……..want more details. Notice Obama did not fall into this trap…………..

foreigner in the US   September 17th, 2008 9:38 pm ET

That's why Mccain and Biden are old time Washington pros. First they are for it, then thy ar not sure ……..want more details. Notice Obama did not fall into this trap…………..

Lynn:60 yr old Obama supporter   September 17th, 2008 9:37 pm ET

"Being informed" is what Biden wants to be: he stated clearly that he wants to know the DETAILS. That is what a leader and a thinker does. A panderer "waffles" to say what he thinks his audience wants to hear.

jefflz   September 17th, 2008 9:37 pm ET

Bailing out AIG was probably essential since they were severely compromised by the Lehman collapse- a real domino effect. A question that begs to be asked is what if these billions and billions in funds were poured into shoring up the actual mortgages in such a way that the sausage that has been made of the securitized mortgages could have a defined floor in value? With all the financial geniuses out there including the ones who got us into this mess through "greed financing" – there should be a way to separate the meat from the rot at least to the extent that the risk in these devices could be defined within much narrower limits. As it is now, they are just written down at zero. Specualators will pick up this distressed junk and eventually make gazillions. There must be a better way.

Tracey   September 17th, 2008 9:36 pm ET

I agree! He admitted that he had to gain more information on the matter, as oppose to saying, "In what respect" and trying to skirt around the issue and really did not know! He did not make himself look like a total idiot by pretending.

Alex   September 17th, 2008 9:36 pm ET

CNN YOU MAKE STUFF UP….

asportsdad   September 17th, 2008 9:36 pm ET

People should remember that it was and is Bush-McCain and the Republicans in Congress that attempted to privatize Social Security in order to shore up Wall Street. Had they been successful, your Social Security account would now be down the drain with your 401K.

Barney   September 17th, 2008 9:35 pm ET

Does any of this go back to Keating 5?

Why is CNN protecting McCain? What is it? You trying to get the Faux News viewers?

Our country is in a mess and you all twist and spin.

WE WANT THE WHOLE TRUTH – From PALIN TOO!!

David   September 17th, 2008 9:34 pm ET

Uhh… CNN

Why not cover McCain's flip flop on this bailout? Yesterday, he was against it, and today, he was for it.

http://www.americablog.com/2008/09/abc-news-slams-mccain-flip-flops-on.html

Lorna, NY   September 17th, 2008 9:33 pm ET

When will you start reporting McCain's LYING? Biden did not waffle.

Breck   September 17th, 2008 9:33 pm ET

Waffling? How is this waffling? CNN, your rightist bias is beginning to show.

Jacob McDaniel   September 17th, 2008 9:33 pm ET

What a misleading headline! This is in no way "waffling" Biden is just asking for more information in regards to the bailout not saying that the bailout was a good choice. Wake up America, stop just reading headlines and get the whole story.

"Take the Power Back!"

Barney   September 17th, 2008 9:33 pm ET

CNN – why is everything in your headlines about Obama/Biden negative, and everything about the lying thugs a positive?

This is not news. This is campaigning for McCain. STOP IT.

Let's take our country back for US – Obama/Biden '08

KATHLEEN   September 17th, 2008 9:33 pm ET

Just wait for ALL the News of Bush ROVE Cheney tactics come out in
a book but only after January 20, 2009 when Bush and Cheney
are home free!!!!

Sean   September 17th, 2008 9:32 pm ET

John: I'm pretty sure you're talking about McCain there! Biden just said he needed more information. Not shoot first, shoot last, shoot some more, then try to ask questions!

CM   September 17th, 2008 9:32 pm ET

jimmy, you don't need to type in caps for us to realize you're a racist. That Obama story is been debunked too many times to count now.

What are you insinuating? Blacks are disrespectful to the flag and this country? Or because Howard disrespected the anthem and he's black, Obama is the same?

Either way jimmy you are a plague to this country. Regardless of the color of your skin.

FLAG PINS   September 17th, 2008 9:32 pm ET

FLAG PINS.AT THE RNC

I WILL NEVER WEAR ANOTHER ONE, IT IS APPARANTLY BEING USED TO GIVE SIGNALS THAT YOU ARE SOME FANTICAL CULT GROUP AND NOW ONLY INDICATES THAT YOU ARE THE ENEMY. YOU WRAP ALL THAT HATRED UNDER THE DISQUISE OF PATRIOTISM. SO THE NEXT TIME OBAMA IS NOT WEARING ONE, YOU WILL KNOW WHY.

Carol   September 17th, 2008 9:31 pm ET

SO it looks like we have some form of agreement here. The candidates DON'T like or WANT to bail out AIG – BUT – it is whats really best for all Americans. We have a disaster situation here. Recognize this. This is NO TIME to be bull headed, we have to pull together and do the right thing for the NATION. Like it or not. There was no waffeling here. This situation is NEITHER Dem or REOUB – its AMERICAN. RECOGNIZE it. Move on. We really NEED TO THINK – TERM LIMITS for CONGRESS and SENATE. NOW. They are the MAIN reason the GOVERNMENT is in the mess its in. Neither repub nor dems are willing to work together, so "we the people have the POWER to weed out the loosers that arn't doing the JOB we elected them to do. GET IT. This is why we have term limits on the Prez ! It;s not about the PARTY – its the individual. its here and now.

Barney   September 17th, 2008 9:31 pm ET

Today alone TWO Multi-millionaires endorsed McCain – oooooooh

If you have a few thousand, don't think for one minute that voting for a man that is endorsed by multi-millionaires is going to make you wealthy.

You could probably have been better off if a spoiled little rich kid hadn't controlled this country and the world for the last 7 years.

Let's take our country back for the people that make LESS than 5 million a year !!

Obama/Biden '08

Constitutional Scholar, THINKING MAN, who is admired by the top people in OTHER Countries too. Obama wants to help the people that need help. McCain and Palin are secrecy and lies constantly.

Obama/Biden '08

You sure about that?   September 17th, 2008 9:31 pm ET

I agree with joe

we should be letting the problems ride themselves out and not bailing anyone out. The 2 banks on monday crumbled because they gave loans and mortgages to too many people who wouldn't be able to pay them back and the banking division of AIG did pretty much the same.

The companies that screwed up should be crumbling and taken over by companies that do things right. That's what the economy needs and yet no one has yet to say that.

Also I like how biden blames bush (for the tax cuts) and than also blames clinton (for deregulation)

whose fault is it mr. biden? the dems or republicans?

Lee in LaGrange, Ga   September 17th, 2008 9:30 pm ET

Unfortunately, biden is boring and no one cares what he says. He can say whatever he wants and no one will be there to listen.

McCain/Palin – 2008!

rin   September 17th, 2008 9:28 pm ET

where is the big headline of mccain lying about his record on bailouts!!!! cnn this posting is misleading

inga   September 17th, 2008 9:28 pm ET

Biden was not waffling – This is a stretch, CNN….

Nowhere Man   September 17th, 2008 9:27 pm ET

And, so, in Biden's big chance to demonstrate his years of experience in the Senate and his leadership, alas … he … just … can't … make … a … decision. LOLF! A glimpse of what an Obama/Biden WH would be like. What a coupla of tools these guys are!

KATHLEEN   September 17th, 2008 9:27 pm ET

RIGHT NOW on MSNBC there is a POW that is stating that Bush
BLOCKED a lawsuit against Iraq by 16 POW's for not following the
GENEVA convention.

Can CNN report this?

And where is Bush and Cheney to explain the bailout of AIG?
Are they hiding?

Folks, where is our Commander in Chief? HIDING!

OBAMA BIDEN

Leslie   September 17th, 2008 9:27 pm ET

We are in big trouble thanks to Bush and friends. The next president will have to find a way to fix the failures of the Bush administration. We need the Democratic party in the white house ASAP. The republicans have failed this country for 8 years !! Obama and Biden , we need you now !! Call Bill Clinton, he's an economic genius !!

Bud   September 17th, 2008 9:27 pm ET

Look, both Biden and Mccain were against it… as were most people… because on the surface it looked like a typical bailout. We now find out that if AIG fails, it may send shock waves across the global financial markets and trigger a full-blown global depression.

For any company to wield this kind of power is wrong! Focus on that.

BigTallMatt   September 17th, 2008 9:26 pm ET

Ummm, excuse me CNN, but shouldn't it be a bigger story that MCCAIN HIMSELF flip-flopped on this very issue as well? Once again, the journalistic reputation of CNN is tossed in the gutter for the sake of yellow journalism.

Independent in NC   September 17th, 2008 9:25 pm ET

What caused this economic disaster was a myriad of things that cannot be attributed to one person. Let's be fair. Deregulation was a factor, yes, but so were insane executive salaries (which has been happening for years), job cuts, subprime lending and people who have no idea how to manage their own money and live beyond their means. It's not a few greedy suits who caused this and the rest of us are just sitting here dumbfounded as to what happened.

What bothers me is how we decide who we are going to bail out. What makes one corporation more deserving of federal aid than another? I'm thinking of the 25,000 people at HP who are about to be jobless in the next 3 years.

Georgia Gal   September 17th, 2008 9:25 pm ET

A little bit of money, Joe???

It's $85 billion … I'd hardly call that a little.

Please Joe … think before you talk.

Please Release Us GOP   September 17th, 2008 9:24 pm ET

America, please stop poking yourself in the eye. McOld and Wasilla Barbie are NOT what American needs now. WE NEED TO GET OUT OF THIS MESS. Do a search regarding the Anti-Palin rally in Alaska and you will find that even people in her own state aren't that into her. We do not need the right wing, Focus on the Family bunch running this country any further into the ground. What the heck ever happened to the separation of church and state?

Wake-up America   September 17th, 2008 9:24 pm ET

OK folks, the guy is campaigning out there endlessly. And I'm sure he is not sitting around the blogs and CNN watching every detail of this so called bailout. As I understand it it is a loan not a bailout gift. Supposedly it will be paid back withinterest. Let's face the facts GWB and the Republicans have caused this mess whether you want to believe or not. Even Grenspan has said at this point we have no choice. So again, greed, deceit, lies and corruption from corporations have caused this. And the Repubicans keep saying "Country First". I guess Country should really mean "Corporations". Is that what you really ment Mr. McCain, or should we be asking Palin?

WAKE-UP AMERICA

Ashley   September 17th, 2008 9:24 pm ET

Why are people still talking about Hillary being the Democratic VP…its not happening. Its over.

Yes, Hillary would have been a great VP except for one thing…Bill Clinton. Now, I used to love Bill Clinton (until South Carolina) but more imporantly I respect him and what he did as President (not the extra activities mind you) that being said…who wants to be President of the USA and over shadowed by your VP AND HER HUSBAND. And would Bill play the husband role in international affairs…..I think not.

But back to subject….I am glad that Joe "waffled" at least he admitted that he needed to know more information. That no hesitation thing is pretty scary(i.e. Palin).

Candia   September 17th, 2008 9:23 pm ET

Why is wanting to have more information "waffling"?

jimmy   September 17th, 2008 9:23 pm ET

A LITTLE BIT OF AN ASIDE ON THE CAMPAIGNS NOT TO UNDERWHELM SENATOR BIDEN.
IT IS WELL KNOWN THAT OBAMA HAD BEEN SEEN NOT PUTTING HIS RIGHT HAND OVER HIS HEART WHEN OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM WAS BEING PLAYED AND UNTIL RECENTLY DID NOT WEAR AN AMERICAN FLAG PIN ON HIS LAPEL.
NOW A PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL PLAYER WITH THE DALLAS MAVERICKS IS SEEN FLAGRANTLY DISREPECTFUL OF OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM BY NOT ONLY STANDING AT ATTENTION BUT
DISDAINFULLY SAYING HE DID NOT GO FOR THAT STUFF ABOUT OUR FLAG BECAUSE HE SAID QUOTE" I'M BLACK " UNQUOTE.

enough already!   September 17th, 2008 9:22 pm ET

The democrats, unlike the GOP, decided not to hold their VP candidate up as the second coming. Therefore this is not news. What did Obama say today?

fixthebroken   September 17th, 2008 9:21 pm ET

Well, he didn't really waffle, right? He said that the government shouldn't bail them out. And now he is saying he hasn't studied the bailout yet. True, though, he should have said that he doesn't approve of the bailout no matter whether he studied it or not — if indeed that is what he believes.

Minor gaffe, but gaffe nonetheless.

You see, I can call a spade a spade. Try to do that Republicans.

John 64 years old Independent   September 17th, 2008 9:20 pm ET

It's time you cut Joe Biden a break since he as well as the rest of us are suffering from this republican mess. Since the current administration is so bad at the economy and seem to be playing this by the seat of their pants, it's no wonder a Senator can't keep up with their stumbling.

This is the George Bush/John McCain de-regulation economy, the fat cat free for all where we little guys get the shaft. Now, John McCain and Scary Sarah want more of the same!

No way, enough of the incompetent, enough of the arrogance, enough of the lies! It's time to vote Democrat across the ticket and throw the corrupt republicans out of Washington DC!

Katie   September 17th, 2008 9:20 pm ET

Biden says this was caused by "The profligate tax cuts to the very, very wealthy that John [McCain] wants to continue. "

No it is all caused by the subprime loans, most of which were made to people with who were not credit-worthy, because banks have been accused of discrimination and sued over it for not loaning money to these people in previous years.

Clinton deregulated banks in 1994 which loosened restrictions on lending.

There is lots of blame to go around – for both parties!! Stop being partisan idiots and demand that all Congressmen work together to fix the problems.

RyanD.   September 17th, 2008 9:20 pm ET

Uh…McCain waffled…not Biden.

Farrell, Houston, Tx   September 17th, 2008 9:20 pm ET

John McCain aka Keating 5 should know about Federal taxpayers bailouts. The Feds bailed Lincoln Savings and Loan to the tune of $3.6 billions dollars due to John McCain aka Keating 5. John McCain walked free and Charles Keating and his son went to prison. Further, the Feds just bailed out Silver Bank and guess who was the CEO, John McCains son. John McCain is deep and should be investigated himself before he opens his mouth about any bailouts.

Dakota   September 17th, 2008 9:19 pm ET

How did Biden waffle CNN?? All he did was ask for more information. This article has more spin than the front page on Fox News.

Mary   September 17th, 2008 9:19 pm ET

I know McCain did this. I think you have this mixed up.

aware   September 17th, 2008 9:18 pm ET

Obama/Biden equivocate, waffle, obfuscate, prevaricate and politicize a crisis! Anything to get in the news! I know you guys are desperate but please don't use the fear card anymore! :(

The blame/victim/savior game is getting old too! Try a little humility and accountability!

McCain/Palin 08 for this former democrat and Hillary supporter! :)

Shane   September 17th, 2008 9:18 pm ET

INSERT FOOT INTO MOUTH AND CHOMP DOWN HARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

She's singing   September 17th, 2008 9:17 pm ET

Thank g-d for Palin. Obama '08

DUH   September 17th, 2008 9:17 pm ET

Some decisions aren't simply BLACK or WHITE.

TRUTH   September 17th, 2008 9:16 pm ET

Just goes to show , the truth is that politicians DO NOT run

economics/economy. Put the blame where it belongs. Hold the companies criminally libel for their mis-deeds.

TRBoston   September 17th, 2008 9:14 pm ET

Considering the complete about-face on just about every economic policy exhibited by McCain in the last few days this is no big deal

SN   September 17th, 2008 9:14 pm ET

wait a minute? what does tax cuts have to do with it?
nobody wants to talk about it, but there was enormous pressure (about 10 yrs ago) on lending institution to make loans more affordable to low income, and only under pressure lenders reduced requirements and percentage of down payments needed for home loans. And now, when folks who should not have gotten loans to begin with and cannot pay are bringing the whole economy down, they try to blame it on tax cuts. Senator Biden, you make no sense. You had it right originally: every time government messes with natural laws of economy, the trouble will follow.

John   September 17th, 2008 9:14 pm ET

They were right to say of bail out was a bad move. The Feds pulled the trigger too soon without allowing another way. That is why government overhaul needs to happen in Wahington. The question is, who amongst this 2 will be more competent to do that. I am leaning towards Nader than supporting McCain but my vote will be wasted if I vote for Nader, but will never vote for any socialist ideology. It is bad for economy and was proven by the fall of NOKOR and Russia. Is this what we wanted?

NORA, FLORIDA   September 17th, 2008 9:13 pm ET

Considering how many WAFFLING AFFECTS MCSILLY AND PALACKING has had over the past couple of days. I am sure that Biden is okay with this one waffling affect.

M   September 17th, 2008 9:13 pm ET

Dems are scared…you can tell from their whiney comments…(and yes im talking about the people commenting on this article)

We have to remember, the president can say he/she is going to do this or that, but everything goes through congress. They can block anything, its our senators and congressmen we should really care about, not some suit who sits in a geometrical shaped office

wm   September 17th, 2008 9:13 pm ET

I don't see any "waffling" here. Tuesday's comments were about all the speculation of a full government bailout, at a point when no one knew what was being discussed or negotiated. Overnight, a deal was made that was not quite a full bailout — it was being reported that it was more like a "bridge loan". Biden, like everyone else, needed to get a full briefing on what was agreed and what the Federal Government had committed to. I'd rather have him doing some thoughtful deliberation over the facts, vs. just taking quick hip shots for TV sound bites. I think he was being approrpriate, and I think the headline was misleading.

linda from South Dakota   September 17th, 2008 9:12 pm ET

bail out is a cop-out,,,,, insurance is high enough,,,,, if our government keeps this up,,, its no wonder why we are so far in debt,,,,,,, set limits,,,,,,,,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol   September 17th, 2008 9:12 pm ET

hillary clinton obviously would have been a much better vp pick, than biden. biden even said it. he was correct when he said she would make a great president too. the dnc and obama camp, shouldn't have been so blatanly sexist and put her on the ticket. they deserve to lose!

Brian, Pittsburgh   September 17th, 2008 9:11 pm ET

I don't get it – How is that waffling? Please change your headline, it's misleading.

Comment   September 17th, 2008 9:10 pm ET

Everyone please be aware that CNN is in the tank with McCain and will now try to jump on everything Obama and Biden says.

CNN, your horns are starting to show.

joe osborne   September 17th, 2008 9:09 pm ET

Although I am a Canadian living in Toronto, I am extremely interested in the presidential campaign.

I caught Cambell Brown's interview with Lynn de Rothschild and
it seems she was evading Campbell's direct questions and
politicking instead.

I can't help wondering if her reason for switching alliances has
less to do with John McCain and more to do with the fact that she
would pay more personal and corporate taxes under Obama
than under McCain.

kind of makes you wonder!

love CNN's coverage of the campaign.

all the best.

Joe Osborne

Judy   September 17th, 2008 9:09 pm ET

Because Biden wants more information he is waffling? Isn't it better to have more information when making this type of decision? What I see now is my money being used to bail out company's where the CEO's have made sure that they lined their own pockets first and any help the government gives these company's should NOT include millions of dollars to the CEO's.

John from LA   September 17th, 2008 9:09 pm ET

Joe-you don't know much about it????-you haven't been briefed???-all you have to do is pick up a paper and read what the bailout is all about!-Typical!!!-and here's a man who's been in the Senate for 30 years?????-Sad that he's the VP pick for the Dems!!!!

David, Silver Spring, MD   September 17th, 2008 9:08 pm ET

CNN is trying to make a stew out of some pretty thin gruel. Or should I say trying to make a waffle?

Now if he'd said on Tuesday, "No way should AIG be bailed out," and then on Wednesday, "I'm so glad they bailed out AIG!" But that's not what happened, is it?

matt   September 17th, 2008 9:07 pm ET

reminds me of john kerry…

Patrick   September 17th, 2008 9:07 pm ET

Obama must have put out a directive – they need to come up with a sleazy lawyer back room bail out to make some more ELITE richer. It's a dangerous time for America to have to sleazy lawyers in office – the Mavericks will prevail, McCain/Palin 08. Let's keep the Elite Sleaze of BO and Joey B out of the white house.

will   September 17th, 2008 9:05 pm ET

Good for you Joe!

VRM   September 17th, 2008 9:04 pm ET

I guess it's not coincidence that CNN is using the term waffle. Cute.

Kim, Charlotte NC   September 17th, 2008 9:04 pm ET

At least he was honest by stating he needed more information, instead of lying to the American people.

Whatever………………quit trying to spin the issue CNN!

CM   September 17th, 2008 9:02 pm ET

This is waffling? Asking for more information?

What about McCain not even knowing what the committee he chairs does or his stance on this issue?

I'll take Biden's 'waffles' over McCain's ignorance any day.

Scott L. spare us please. You with your ifs. Try living in the now for a change.

KATHLEEN   September 17th, 2008 9:02 pm ET

We are in dire need of a Democratic President. DIRE.

inuk of the north   September 17th, 2008 9:02 pm ET

You mean the guy who's been in Washington for only thirty-seven years is waffling?

Heck, it should be a news story when he's not waffling.

HRC – 18,000,000 votes

Biden – 63,000 votes

Oh yeah, Joe's a big plus for the ticket.

Can't even sell Biden crap on eBay!

VJ   September 17th, 2008 9:01 pm ET

Its pathetic how little people understand and how irresponsible these reporters are…

It is NOT a bailout, it is a Loan… Biden is right in what he said…

Pennsylvania Voter   September 17th, 2008 9:00 pm ET

That is not a waffle. The first time he says "I haven't had a brief of the details yet," and then he says "we shouldn't be doing thing"

Perhaps it's because he READ about the plan that night. CNN, what a horrible reporting job.

Chris   September 17th, 2008 8:59 pm ET

Biden didn't switch views…he and Obama both opposed the AIG bailout which would have turned out to be the right decision, since the feds bailout did nothing.

It may have been "a different tone than his Tuesday reaction" but he still never supported the bailout.

Kind of a misleading headline CNN?

sjp   September 17th, 2008 8:59 pm ET

don't quite see the waffle here, yesterday he said if there would have been more regulation this probably wouldn't have happened. now he wants to read the details of the buy out, to see if they include higher regulation and amount of taxpayer moneys used. sounds like the VP doesn't like it and wants to take a closer look before he really attacks.

EmilyP   September 17th, 2008 8:59 pm ET

Would you like some waffles too, mr obama, like your friend joe….

Lourdes   September 17th, 2008 8:58 pm ET

BIDEN waffles about this? CNN…please do your name as the number one source for news and go back at how McCain and Palin have waffled on the government interventions. Wanting to know more information isn't waffling; it's responsible. Totally changing your position on deregulation (PLEASE go back and look at McCain speeches that mention deregulation over the last several months); that's BEYOND waffling.

Come on, let's have some fair reporting.

CNN – will you post me or keep me in moderation?

Michael   September 17th, 2008 8:58 pm ET

Lets be fair CNN, McCain did the same thing!

Jae   September 17th, 2008 8:57 pm ET

I don't think that requiring more information on a subject makes you a "waffler". I think that word was invented by hardliner Republicans to disparage anyone who isn't willing to act impulsively and with reckless abandon.

Bush is pulling some troops out of Iraq now. Does that mean he has "waffled"? No. It means the situation has changed, and based on the best available intel, you change your actions accordingly.

Shame on CNN for posting such nonsense. Between you and Fox News, where are we supposed to turn for fact in a world of neo-con fiction?

j.williams, san diego   September 17th, 2008 8:56 pm ET

we are talking about Joe..what's the surprise ??

Dave   September 17th, 2008 8:56 pm ET

It's OK Joe, you're not expected to understand economics. Next time, just wait until the Obama advisory team tells you what to say.

Griff   September 17th, 2008 8:54 pm ET

Waffles? Get Fat on Biden… If you have enough Sugar??? You should Vote Democrat…

Kel   September 17th, 2008 8:54 pm ET

Foot in Mouth?? Way to jump on anything the Repubs do and claim it moronic, oh wait maybe it wasn't so bad me so sorry. Idiot.

Joe   September 17th, 2008 8:54 pm ET

Talk about pandering…Biden gets the top prize in pandering this election cycle. Worse than McCain and Obama.

Does anyone running for office know how to fix the ecomomy and the country's ills? Let's pray the best republicans and best democrats…meaning the best people…get elected this Fall. Let's work together and stop the Beltway games…please!!!

Scott L   September 17th, 2008 8:53 pm ET

Whatever Joe…you have been rendered useless to any campaign.

Nice pick Obama! Should have picked Hillary and you would already be in the oval office.

Terrible decision making, and you want this guy to be President?

McCain/Palin will crush Dems in November…been saying this from day one, nobody is listening to me.

mitchell   September 17th, 2008 8:52 pm ET

what can he do? washington and wallstreet are broken. what can we do? watch it fail. thank you republicans. see you in the food lines.

BS   September 17th, 2008 8:52 pm ET

Stop Palin / Rove / from destroying Social Security .

I am a little taken aback that she comapres herself to a pitbull. Is she aware that Pitbulls maul innocent people all the time ??. Her right wing Christian views are almost apocalyptic.

Hopefully, McCain, 72, will retire now.

Trysh, Los Angeles   September 17th, 2008 8:51 pm ET

Since when is asking for more information considered waffling?

John   September 17th, 2008 8:49 pm ET

What a fool he is

Is he supposedly the experienced support Obama needed?

You have a clueless man in Obama running for President and Biden, who is clueless about the economy and worse yet wrong about every foriegn policy decision in history from partitioning Iraq to his famous 1973 vote against the Alaska Pipeline!

Go McCain/Palin

Deb, Allentown,PA   September 17th, 2008 8:48 pm ET

CNN, I'm not sure this really qualifies as "waffling". It's a pretty misleading, negative headline.

voter   September 17th, 2008 8:47 pm ET

well to be fair, McCain was aganist the bailout and now for it. lets have fair reporting.

T   September 17th, 2008 8:47 pm ET

I think people are attracted to a Palin ticket because they are hurting in the present economy and want their suffering to stop now.
Unforturnately, her good looks are not going to wash.

It will depend if America wants to move forward from the Rove economy. McCain, 72, was pretty clear that the Bush has done good job. He has seriously compromised himself as a viable candidate.

Hopefully, Senator McCain will retire.

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