Comments on: Fact Check: Biden on McCain's regulatory history

By: Bruce

Bruce — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:49:23 +0000

So McCain changes his position too much? He flip flops too much? So that must be why he backed out of a rally because Senator Biden was going to attend..... Oh wait.... that was Hillary Clinton who backed out because Governor Palin was going to attend. My bad.

But of course Obama would make an excellent leader. After all, he has led his campaign party for 16 months! Thats excellent leadership. And it shows true patriotism and dedication to this country. Or maybe i'm thinking of the former 2-star General, John McCain, who endured 5 years as a POW, and returned with honor. I believe a former 2-star General, who wasn't allowed to promote simply because of injuries sustained during the POW stint, and a Governor of the state of Alaska who has a history of fighting corruption will make a much better choice then that of a 40 something man who has 2 years of Senatorial experience, and absolutely zero experience as a leader, and his running mate who was simply picked because everyone knows Obama is too young to run this country alone.

I pray every day that Obama is not elected as President.

By: Just a Mom

Just a Mom — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:49:02 +0000

Remember the Keating Five Scandal when Sen. McCain was on the side of lobbyists and Charles Keating to de-regulate the Savings and Loans?

By: IK

IK — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:48:07 +0000

AMERICANS THE CHOICE IS CLEAR IN THIS ELECTION – POLITICIANS ARE LYING ABOUT THEIR RECORDS--TO BE FAIR TO ALL CONCERNED, OBAMA- BIDEN HAVE RUN A MORE HONEST AND ISSUE BASED CAMPAIGN THAN THE McCAIN-PALIN CAMPAIGN

PALIN LIES ABOUT HER RECORD, McCAIN LIES ABOUT HIS.//I ASK WHERE IS HONOR???

THE DEMOCRATS MUST OCCUPY THE WHITE HOUSE COME 2009!!!

By: john

john — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:47:36 +0000

Obama raises millions at a Hollywood fundraiser, while McCain mocks him for attending such an event during tough economic times, this after himself had closed door fundraise in Florida from his cronies........you can tell in his face that his is a born lier and hypocrite all he know is bomb. bomb. bomb. wakeup AMERICA read the truth about this man.

By: ed

ed — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:47:22 +0000

Another Flip Flop by McCain, they just keep coming

By: Mike from Calgary

Mike from Calgary — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:47:21 +0000

The FUNDAMENTALS are strong. McCain is FUNDAMENTALLY A DE-REGULATOR. I WON'T LET THIS FINANCIAL MELTDOWN HAPPEN AGAIN. I AM THE CANDIDATE OF CHANGE, THE AMERICAN VOTERS ARE TOO SMART TO BE FOOLED AGAIN.

PICK ONE.

By: ann

ann — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:47:06 +0000

Does anyone really believe the media anymore?

N O

By: Chris

Chris — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:46:49 +0000

I now know why democrats can't win the presidency, because for the most part they think and act like you commentators. Telling me how bad someone else is instead of telling me what you can do better is the sign of a loser. And judging from the last two elections i rest my case. By the way a democrat for 42 years, but i have had enough of the whining and name calling when the democratic party grows up and may return.

By: Stephen

Stephen — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:46:23 +0000

What else is he going to lie about? Wake up America!

By: Aarimo

Aarimo — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:45:04 +0000

Senetor John Mccain is not contradicting himself. In his original position, his view is that the "Fundamentals of the American Economic System is Strong and Sound" and needs minimal regulartory action or intervention. Keeping in mind that there are only two major economis systems in the world one can clearly see how Senetor Maccain sees the situation. In the world, the two major Socio-economic Systems are: The Capitalist System – that is private ownership of property, free enterprise. This system needs less government intervention. Then there is the Communist or Socialist System. This system has been proven to be defective. As a base for the economic system of the former Soviet Union, it disintergrated. Even those espousing this kind of system are either in great economic trouble (Cuba, North Korea etc.) or are adopting with great success the capitalist base (Russia, China, other States that formed part of the Former Soviet Union).
With base of the American Capitalist System intact, Senetor Maccain sees what Senetor Obama does not see. That the Base of American economy is safe and sound. All that it needs, little regulation, and correction, and like shattered bones, while held together, it heals itself. Sentor Maccain is right. What is required at this moment is leadership, not a gospel of fear and panninc that Senetor Obama is sounding. Being one of the oldest, the mosts succesful, and stable nations built based on free enterprise, all other nations look to U.S. A. for strong leadership at this time when the winds are shaking the tree. This is not the time to cut or transplant the tree, for as Senetor Maccain says, it is on firm foundation.
Sentor Obamas' view on every problem is to bring change. change for the sake of change. The question is: With what other socio economic system does he intend to replace the strong American socio economic capitalist system? For the only system out there is the broken Communist or Socialist system.
The fundamentals, the base, the foundation of American socio-economic system is sound and intact. It needs sound leadership at the time of testing, and just enough regulation. What it does not need is compleate government intervention as Sentor Obama envisons. Greater government intervention in the economic system is socialist, and it erodes the the faundation. It hapened in the former Sovient Union.

By: Veteran in Kansas

Veteran in Kansas — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:45:02 +0000

Might as well bury your head in the sand, that appears to be the current Republican notion of regulating.

By: julibear

julibear — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:44:24 +0000

Thank you Ryan Hicks! They make me physically ill as well. in the words of Kucinich: Wake Up America!
Save your healthcare! Save your right to privacy! Save your kids education! Save your very homes, jobs and savings accounts!!!! Much is at stake here. My values are as strong as any small towner: work hard, save up, don't live outside your means, give your kids better than what you got, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I had respect for McCain as a maverick until he sold his soul to the Republican Party. Obama has consistently made overtures to religious groups, women, college students, educators and people of all races to join him in his fight. The republicans just make fun.
Wake Up America!

By: rick

rick — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:44:22 +0000

yup mccain just dont get it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By: Anita of georgia

Anita of georgia — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:44:04 +0000

John McCain, the American people are not stupid. They know lying for you is just like breathing, It just come natually. Which one is it? Are you for regulation or deregulation? Do you need to flip a coin Johnny Boy?

By: Matt from L.A.

Matt from L.A. — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:43:05 +0000

Some people's comments are so childishly unintelligent (looking at you, SaveTheDramaFoObamasMama).

Go ahead making inane comments with your head in the sand, while America the Beautiful slips irretrievably into ruin, and the American people's suffering multiplies. Continue to be hateful and blind, with no curiosity about the truth of current events, as America loses it's allies and clings to endless war while her people lose their jobs, healthcare, houses, and hope at home.

If anyone is a robot, it is someone who thoughtlessly echos the hate vibration, without looking around and tuning into reality.

By: Michelle, PA

Michelle, PA — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:42:49 +0000

In other words, McCain is flip-flopping *again* on positions he has held for his decades in the Senate, coincidentally just in time to pander for our votes.

By: upsetvoter

upsetvoter — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:41:20 +0000

It is a shame that CNN is more worried about balance than truth. Your verdict is ludicrous. It is not a fact checking verdict but a spineless caving in to political correctness. It is patently obvious that McCain has been part of the anti-regulation crowd. He is advised by Phil Gramm whose legislative shennanigans are the root cause of the mess we are in. How conceivably cab you give credence to his sudden flip-flop on this issue.

CNN has no intellectual honesty. You guys are a disgrace to journalism.

By: Jo Jo

Jo Jo — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:40:58 +0000

I am glad that Obama-Biden ticket have decided to make sure that they tell the truth.

I am someone who would have voted for McCain in 2000. It would have been the first time I would have voted republican. And even though I am reluctantly a Hillary-turned Obama supporter, up until last week, I would have thought that having McCain as president would have been okay. Heck...he was close to getting my vote even then. But what I have seen, the lies and distortions and the outright hypocrisy coming out of that campaign has me feeling quite down. I mean, to talk about fundraising when he had his own $50,000 a plate fundraiser. Does he forget these things? Or does he think that he won't be called out on it? I don't know. I shake my head at this now.

By: Confused by Ignorance

Confused by Ignorance — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:40:58 +0000

SaveTheDramaFoObamasMama:

Are you kidding me? That's the name you come up with? You do realize that his mother is no longer with us, right? You are willing to go so low that you're insulting the dead? You are very insensitive and ignorant, and you deserve the same treatment that you are handing out. God bless you, you ignorant, ignorant individual.

By: Peter, San Francisco, CA

Peter, San Francisco, CA — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:40:23 +0000

"Biden's statement historically accurate, but McCain's position changing."

Once again, Senator Biden points out a blatant flipflop on the part of John McCain, and CNN frames it in the softest possible terms. Liberal media? Hardly.

By: Adriana Birmingham, AL

Adriana Birmingham, AL — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:40:16 +0000

How many flip flops is that now? I lost count.

By: Winkzilla, Tucson

Winkzilla, Tucson — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:39:48 +0000

This article is exactly what we need. We need a referee to blow the whistle on political lying. No matter how you cut it, lying is wrong.

McCain has been a staunch proponent of deregulation. This idea in recent history goes back to Reagan. Nevertheless, it actually goes back to landowners and aristocrats that were in power prior to our Declaration of Independence in 1776. Deregulation came from economic philosophers like Adam Smith, who claims our economy is guided by an “invisible hand.” This is based upon philosophical ideas that are thousands of years old that man will naturally do more good than bad. Couple this with the John Locke philosophy that God gave the earth to them, we have people that have given themselves unrestricted authority to do what ever they want.

Complete deregulation is as extreme and wrong as over regulation. We need a balance to protect our population and maintain our national interests while allowing people engage in economic actions with accountability.

Unfortunately, our Republican friends have taken an extremist position of complete deregulation and opened the candy store for any looting because- well, we will do more good than bad, wink wink.

As an ordinary citizen, who works by the hour, I cannot support the Republicans until they come to reality. Barack Obama has shown intelligence and understanding. The difference is large, and it should be a no-brainer.

By: disgusted

disgusted — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:39:41 +0000

waa - waa - waa. That's all I hear from dumocrats. constant whining, complaining, finger pointing and blaming. FACT - the conditions that exist today the mortgage crisis, value of the dollar, , Federal bailout - is ALL because of failed policies enacted by the dumocrats in the 90's and the failure of their party to support and enact sweeping changes to correct these problems.(FACT- McCain in 2005 pointed out the very fact that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were headed for catastrophe and authored a bill to correct the problem. The dumocrats refused to support it and it failed. if there's anyone out there riding the fence this year - here's a clue - you want Obama and his running mate (now there's an example of "change" select someone who has spent 35 yearsas part of the "problem" Obama claims he's going to fix) as your "leaders" by all means go ahead, vote for someone who will bankrupt you with the same policies we're struggling to fix now.

By: rodlang

rodlang — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:39:39 +0000

The problem is that Obama has done absolutely nothing in the Senate. He has no record of legislative accomplishment. No track record. He's an empty suit.

By: Fundamentals are STRONG

Fundamentals are STRONG — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:39:16 +0000

Aaaaaah...ummm...fundamentals are PEOPLE. Yeah that's it, the PEOPLE are strong and if you say the fundamentals are bad then you are saying the American People are bad.

Palin + McCain = McPAIN

Choice is yours.

By: PastorGene

PastorGene — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:39:16 +0000

McCain is trying to have it both ways. To the Republican base he proclaims he's a conservative after their own heart, meaning he subscribes fully to Republican philosophy, which is to oppose all government regulations and insist government interference is the problem. But at the same time he's saying he'll stop fix the problems on Wall Street and stop the greed, corruption, and speculating. But how?

You can't have it both ways. Either you believe in government regulation for the good of the people or you believe in leaving the market alone. And Republican philosophy is to leave the market alone. Whatever you believe about this, at least Obama is not trying to deal off both ends of the deck!

By: Nia from Minneapolis

Nia from Minneapolis — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:38:38 +0000

Lie about me, I'll tell the truth about you.

Obama = integrity. McCain, not so much.

By: Debbie Joyner

Debbie Joyner — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:38:06 +0000

The biggest beneficiary of Freddie and Fannie lobbying dollars is the head of the Senate Committee on Banking who expressed concern and frustration that the Government took them over -"The problems of Fannie and Freddie weren't created by these two CEOs, they go back a long time... once again looking out for the fat cats who milked millions from these quasi government programs. And the winner is:
Senator Christopher Dodd -Democrat

By: Matt

Matt — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:36:38 +0000

LOL...moratorium on all federal regulations? He's gotta be certifiable, and 1995 was 13 years ago...that's plenty of time for even more crazy to invade McCain's head.

By: Chris

Chris — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:36:37 +0000

Verdict: Biden's statement historically accurate, but McCain's position changing.

That's a win-win for the dems in my book.

By: lawrence2xl

lawrence2xl — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:36:28 +0000

the brain of mccain remains a POW to the core republican platform.
mccain has said nothing new, palin has said nothing intelligent. almost every issue this team has identified was first presented to the American people by Barack Obama.
it is time for a better president. a president who will not run from crisis to crisis, but a president who has the mental capacity, & youthful vigor to elucidate a broad, comprehensive plan of reasonable action. America needs a president who puts the country first, not with sound bites & flip-flops, but consistently clear thinking & common-sense motivation. Obama/Biden is the team we need now!

By: midwestrn grl_stl

midwestrn grl_stl — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:36:23 +0000

why is this a surprise, it shouldnt be, thy gop has been lying throughout this campaing, mccaint has been changing positions like the wind blows., its over. i cant wait for the debates

By: asportsdad

asportsdad — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:36:20 +0000

Sen. Obama and the DNC should remind people that it was Bush-McCain and the Republicans in Congress that attempted to privatize Social Security in order to shore up Wall Street. Had they been successful, your Social Security account would now be down the drain with your 401K. If McCain-Palin win the election, you can expect more of the same.

By: Truth hurts

Truth hurts — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:36:07 +0000

Mccain have flip flop so, many times to please whatever interest!! Fact check, he is a de-regulator and he said it right out his own mouth!!

By: s

Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:36:05 +0000

McCain brings fresh meaning to the word flip-flop!

By: rin

rin — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:35:57 +0000

now biden is the real straight talker.... i am tired of the political bs from mccain/palin

By: LYNETTE IN CA

LYNETTE IN CA — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:35:15 +0000

John in Ohio – I love this ..."Caribou Barbie!!!" I'm also in complete agreement with everything else you said!

OBAMA / BIDEN '08 and Beyond!

By: McLiar And Failin

McLiar And Failin — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:35:05 +0000

Tell John McLiar and Sarah Failin thanks but no thanks.

Obama/Biden 08

By: MM

MM — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:34:33 +0000

"SaveTheDramaFoObamasMama September 17th, 2008 12:22 pm ET

obama's a fool. obamabots are foolish fools."

Oh I am taken aback by your great debating skills. What - are you in pre-school?

By: Capablanca

Capablanca — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:34:11 +0000

I think Obama and Biden totally missed the point. Experts advocated the consolidation of federal agencies for years which is the McCain plan now. Obama and Biden just wanted to add more overhead without understanding the problem.

By: TKW- New Mexico

TKW- New Mexico — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:34:10 +0000

McCopy cat is at it again. What ever Obama says, I'll wait a few days and say the same thing. I can't wait until November!

By: Anti-Liar

Anti-Liar — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:34:09 +0000

When you have a very wealthy wife running her own businesses, and when you have power lobbyist working for your campaign working day and night to get contributions from the wealthy individuals and big corporations with promises that are not made public while in public they are deceiving and promising the world for the suffering American families and small businesses which, in their secret views, are dispensable and gullible enough to believe all their election-year lies, well......

By: John

John — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:33:52 +0000

What!!!!! Biden told the truth!

We can't have that kind of honesty in the whitehouse.

By: Seriously????

Seriously???? — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:33:50 +0000

SaveTheDramaFoObamasMama – you are the reason why grownups shouldnt allow kids on the internet without supervision.....

By: Douglas

Douglas — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:33:47 +0000

McCain's plan for regulating the imploding financial markets: Form a 9/11 type committee. Hope that during the two years of meetings the crooks on Wall Street can consolidate enough power to allow him to ignore any recomendations.

By: John McFibber

John McFibber — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:33:47 +0000

How ironic it will be that the man who voted against the King Holiday Bill will lose to the first African American president.

We can do it America.

Obama/Biden 08

By: Humphrey from Chicago, Ill

Humphrey from Chicago, Ill — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:33:36 +0000

Wait a minute liberals! More regulation, are you kidding me??? If an accident you had nothing to do with happened on the road you take to work, would you ask for more regulation? Before you leave in the morning the government will have you go through testing for alcohol in your system before you enter your car, checking pressure on tires, testing steering bearings, etc. all for a fee. Will that make your day?

McCain is right,less rules are good. It is about finding the right type of rules that is important and making sure that there is oversight.

You liberals are a piece of work!

By: John in DC

John in DC — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:33:33 +0000

"McSame and Caribou Barbie"...hilarious!!! If these people win, can we ever take them seriously?

By: George Brewer

George Brewer — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:33:06 +0000

Lies –Lies No how no way should McCain become president–not even a dog catcher....

By: McLiars

McLiars — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:32:38 +0000

I'm shocked, shocked that John McCain is LYING–Not. We know he lies, he lies through his crooked yellow teeth. Cindy looks down all the time when John is talking, because she knows he's lying. Lying like he never lied before because he'll never get this close to being president, ever.

Show the McSames we have no patience for liars, not after 8 years of Bush and Cheney. I love my country too much to vote for McCain, it's just that simple.

Obama/Biden 08