September 26, 2008
Posted: September 26th, 2008 03:08 PM ET

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Sen. Joe Biden says Friday night's debate is a 'big deal.'.
Sen. Joe Biden says Friday night's debate is a 'big deal.'.

CUDAHY, Wisconsin (CNN) – Joe Biden says that Friday night’s debate been Barack Obama and John McCain is a “big deal” because it will illustrate the candidates' fundamentally different national security philosophies, with Obama arguing that McCain isn’t willing to spend the money needed at the local level to prevent and respond to terrorist attacks.

“I want to tell you, give you a little preview,” Biden told firefighters and their families at a fire station fish fry. “The fundamental difference between John and Barack and me and John is this: if you’re talking about security, it starts at home in addition to protecting our troops abroad and giving them everything they need.”

Biden argued that a terrorist attack will likely be detected and responded to at the local level, not by “some guy in special forces gear with night vision goggles.” He said McCain and “the conservative right” believe an attack is a local issue, not federal - but that McCain did not vote for several local funding recommendations from the 9/11 Commission.

“I’m sick and tired of this neo-conservative malarkey that somehow the federal government doesn’t have a responsibility to this local fire hall, to the local police department,” said Biden.

“I’m absolutely convinced John McCain feels as deeply as I do about protecting the homeland, but let’s get the facts straight,” said Biden. “He votes against funding it. He votes against giving you the money. The president of the United States will not give you the money because philosophically he doesn’t think it’s the responsibility of the federal government, it’s a local responsibility.”

The McCain campaign shot back, pointing to votes and statements indicating the Arizona senator’s support for both the 9/11 Commission and its conclusions as well as the funding of local first responders.

“You can count on Barack Obama’s running mate to bungle the truth if not flat out lie,” said McCain spokesman Ben Porritt. “John McCain helped create the 9/11 Commission and has fought to ensure law enforcement officers, firefighters, and other first responders have the tools necessary to protect our nation.”

Filed under: Barack Obama • Joe Biden • John McCain


Republican   September 26th, 2008 5:43 pm ET

I want Mccain to win this election. We need your support. Please keep talking without any sense.

Go joe,go.

Independent-Latina-for-OBAMA   September 26th, 2008 5:42 pm ET

Go get them Joe!

zsazsa   September 26th, 2008 5:41 pm ET

no the debate will be about how the corrupt Democratic party and their sleaze meister BO worked back room deals for the recent "economic crisis" – it's all a part of the show which the O-kids are too ignorant to realize.

Allen in Hartwell GA   September 26th, 2008 5:41 pm ET

Senator Joe is right: the Republicans seem to think that national security ends at the Iraqi border. And the idea that if we stopped being targets for middle-east terrorists in Iraq they would attack us here is nothing more than scare tactics from the GOP political machine.

If terrorists want a war on this land they will get one, and they'll find that Americans are just as willing to fight and die for their country as the Iraqis are right now. And all this from a Democrat.

Sane Person   September 26th, 2008 5:40 pm ET

Everyone stay calm. The voters will make the right decision in November. I hope! Go Joe.

baby mama   September 26th, 2008 5:38 pm ET

the NOBAMA plan: hands up................."we surrender"

Griff   September 26th, 2008 5:37 pm ET

Well Mr Biden. You can Guarantee your God will look after you!!
Me I prefer to live inthe real world.. This Planet is just a small part of any "Digital Circuit Board". A Humongous Electronic Field. It generates itself every 365/366 day cycle. Has done for a few Billion years,..Where was your God more than 2,500yrs ago???

Therm   September 26th, 2008 5:37 pm ET

Liz please do your research before posting. Obama DID receive more money than John McCain from Fannie/Freddie employees. However, McCain received SUBSTANTIALLY more than that from lobbyists and corporate bigwigs at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac ($167,000 vs. Obama's $16,000). This was fact checked by CNN several days ago...catch up.

MLD   September 26th, 2008 5:35 pm ET

Tonight we will all get to see firsthand how weak Obama is.

Immediately after the debate, we can all log back into this blog and see how blind Obama's supporters really are.

You'll see. I promise.

Oregon calling   September 26th, 2008 5:35 pm ET

When are people going to start to see that EDUCATION is a BIG part of national security?!?!

Obama / Biden 08

Ken   September 26th, 2008 5:31 pm ET

Joe Biden alone has spoken more intelligent truth in the last 8 years than all the [R] in Congress put together. He makes his gaffes and stretches the spin sometimes, but he never lies and the spin is not a constant way-of-life for him like it is for just about every [R] on the hill. You neo-morons who like to criticize him depend on the research and analysis of others like FactCheck to delve into the issues and Biden's statements, and then you pick and choose the bits you need, out of context, to form an opinion you already had when you started. You are just like the neo-moronic adminstration YOU elected twice: pick and choose the facts and make up outright lies to justify the decision you wanted in the first place. [R]s are intellectually bankrupt. And their candidate's behavior this past week more than proves it.

KindMiss   September 26th, 2008 5:28 pm ET

I agree with Joe. Effective Intelligence gathering is far more important than raw force (guys with night-vision goggles) blindly directed anywhere BUT where the ennemies really are, brooding their evil plans. Get the facts straight before you act!

jimmy   September 26th, 2008 5:28 pm ET

WHOEVER WE ELECT AS PRESIENT IN THIS ELECTION WILL BE FACED WITH THE PROBLEMS POSSIBLY GREATER THAN
FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT. .. OUR ALLIES IN EUROPE HAVE ONLY GIVEN TOKEN HELP IN THE AFGHAN WAR . IT IS URGENT FOR OUR COUNTRY TO EXPAND OUR ARMED FORCES TO DEAL WITH WORLD WIDE CONFLICTS EVEN THOUGH AMERICA CANNOT AFFORD TO BE INVOLVED IN ALL OF THESE CONFLICTS.
THE FIRST PRIORITY FOR THE PRESIDENT HAS ALWAYS BEEN AND WILL ALWAYS BE NATIONAL SECURITY . THE PROTECTION
OF AMERICA AND ITS CITIZENS. NOBODY, NO POLITICIAN WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THE DRAFT , THEY TALK OF PEACE CORP, AMERICORP, COMMUNITY SERVICE AND OTHER FEDERAL
OR STATE SPONSORED SERVICE IN EXCHANGE FOR COLLEGE SCHOLARSHIPS. . NO ONE WANTS 2 OR MORE YEARS OF SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY IN EXCHANGE FOR SCHOLARSHIPS.
EVEN UNDOCUMENTED (ILLEGAL) ALIENS DO NOT CARE ENOUGH TO VOLUNTEER TO HELP OR DO SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY IN EXCHANGE FOR PERMANENT RESIDENT STATUS,
YET THESE SAME PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE ALL THE BENEFITS OF CITIZENSHIP WITHOUT HAVING TO WORK FOR IT.
AMERICANS MUST WAKE UP TO REALITIES AND CHOOSE THE RIGHT CANDIDATES FOR CONGRESS AND MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL , THE PRESIDENT.

indenpendent   September 26th, 2008 5:27 pm ET

After looking @ all 4 cand. and careful consideration, maybe we should lockup all the sane people and let all the insane people out to run the country. Couldn't do no worse. Rep and Dem puppets on a string all saying this is the man to save our world. Looks like I'm voteing for the lesser of 2 E's again. How about Sen Joe B. for President and Sen John McCain for Vise. Now wouldn't that shake up the White House. :)

Pitbull without lipstick (get Palin out of my city, philly)   September 26th, 2008 5:25 pm ET

vote for the guy who has one house cuz he's the one who knows how tough it is out there.

O'Biden 08

9999   September 26th, 2008 5:25 pm ET

F O O T,,,,,,,I N,,,,,,,,M O U T H,,,,,,,,,P O S T E R C H I L D

Moon Maiden from Lake Michigan   September 26th, 2008 5:25 pm ET

Hooray for Biden!
My humanistic part of me feels sorry for Palin, she'e way, way, way over her head and is now drowning along with Mccain.
This election is quite obvious.
Obama/Biden our saviors!

wisc_voter   September 26th, 2008 5:24 pm ET

I have to say that Obama and Biden, combined at the helm, would allow me to sleep at night, as opposed to McCain and Palin.

As an independent voter, it's obvious to me that McCain bringing Palin on was a calculated stunt, and that offends me. I had reasons to oppose McCain as President before Palin arrived on the scene, but this decision clinched it.

For all of Biden's verbal gaffes, he still clearly remains a competent and experienced candidate for VP, and, if necessary, Commander in Chief. And Obama has proven that he has the smarts, the finesse, and the strength to lead this country. The choice, for me, is clear.

That Other Jerry   September 26th, 2008 5:23 pm ET

You're absolutely right, Joe. Here we sit, totally unprotected, while over there in the Pakistan mountains Osama bin Laden is putting the finishing touches on his master plan to bomb thousands of volunteer fire halls. Glad you and Obama are on top of this one. Just because you were already in Congress when Obama was starting puberty doesn't mean you have all the answers.

Rodger   September 26th, 2008 5:22 pm ET

Joe, she will have some excuse not to make the debate. If she show's up, it will take everybody 5 minutes to figure out what she even says. Be nice, and be sure to get her phone number for Bill Clinton, she's just stupid enough to meet him!

the other jd   September 26th, 2008 5:21 pm ET

At least Biden is out there, not hiding.

Barbara Macdonald   September 26th, 2008 5:20 pm ET

McCain should be ashamed of himself for putting his ticket in front of the country with his pick of a running mate attractive to the GOP's base but clearly not ready to lead and only a heartbeat away from being asked to do so. God forbid, where would we be then? It was a disgraceful act by a guy I once admired but now see him for what he is, weak!!!.

Pitbull without lipstick (get Palin out of my city, philly)   September 26th, 2008 5:19 pm ET

Obama is not a new senator contrary to popular belief, he has been serving fo 11 yrs in the senate. Hillary has 7yrs. Get the facts. Palin is a governor for 20months. This is a fact. You can distort it to make Palin look presidential and experienced but it's just a lie. .

Nica for Obama, San Diego, Ca.   September 26th, 2008 5:19 pm ET

LOL. Biden said "Malarkey"! And HEY! I can see Mexico from my house, does that make me a foreign policy expert? I must be ready to be Vice President!

Okay, all jokes aside, JOE- just for your information, Senator Obama has State Senatorial experience before he became a United States Senator (1997-2004) so he's been in politics since then, and has Senatorial experience before he became a Senator. As for the article, the McCain campaign has no right to accuse any other campaign of "flat out lies" when even Karl Rove thinks McCain is incapable of telling the truth!

Get informed people! Register to Vote! And Let your voice be heard!

California Gold   September 26th, 2008 5:17 pm ET

Well Scott L, then you should move to your Utopia where everything is free. I am in different countries regularly and believe me, our tax rate here is SWEET compared to say the UK. If paying extra taxes meant taking care of our elderly, our children, those who need the support of me through my government, then I don't mind. So if you don't want to pay for the services and freedoms you enjoy, then you should pack up and move to your Utopia.

Diane Dagenais Turbide   September 26th, 2008 5:15 pm ET

Hi,

you kind of wonder if someone is running for office, for a public servant job how can they have the philosophy that government is not there to serve and protect and share responsibility with its own people at home!

Shrimp Barnicles:Longlsland, NY   September 26th, 2008 5:13 pm ET

Ladies and gentlemen the election is over. Obama will be your next president.

Anonymous   September 26th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

It seems to me that Biden's only risk is in appearing way too smart for the comfort of the average American. In fact, against Palin, I don't see how he avoids it.

So if he is incapable of sufficiently dumbing it down, maybe he should go all the way the other direction.

He should consider embracing his elitism. He is, after all, one of the best qualified candidates to ever run for the Vice-Presidency. So why not mop the floor with the airhead from Alaska?

At least then he can say that he didn't pull his punches because of gender.

And he can quote Bush's line about the tyranny of low expectations in arguing that he was actually paying Palin a compliment.

Matt   September 26th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

Joe Biden's foreign policy voting record:

Voted against the 1st Gulf War (When Iraq invaded Kuwait), Joe said no to helping

Voted FOR the 2nd Iraq War, Biden supported Bush.

Voted AGAINST the SURGE, Joe was wrong again!

AND Joe voted to divided Iraq into three countries.

Joe's record clearly shows that he has been WRONG on every major foriegn policy decision from the past 15 years.

Anonymous   September 26th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

So much for the foriegn affairs expert. He cannot seem to get his history correct much less discuss and know anything about current events. I see the bailout may go through. I have already alerted my senator s and congressman that I will be voting against anyone of them that supports this. I was reading the article about Palin not being an eletist intellect and she should drop out of the race. Need i remind George Will, Parker and the rest of the elites plus the citizens of the U. S. we are having all these problems because all we have running our country is these nut cases left or right. If you look at all these people we got in congress, running the corporations and political appointees in both parties you will see that they are 90% made up of these well intelligent Ivy league schools such as Harvard ,yale, Princeton and Standford. Most of our presidents for the last 40 years have been these people. So I would say it is time to put a regular state college educated person in charge. Hell they could not do no worse. If you like giving out welfare and your taxes raised and become a socialist vote for a democrat. If you want to be cheated by big corporations vote republican. I will vote for Palin and McCain neither one graaduated from Harvard or Yale. So these or the leaders and the news pundits you want running your country and look what shape it is in now.

America will be free again   September 26th, 2008 5:11 pm ET

Only a moron will think McCain should be applauded for the stunt he tried to pull. Not only is he not in the banking committee he has no say at all than to stall the already made progress before he got there. Americans now see him as a confused panic and fear mongering politician. Always looking for ways to have political gains. Obama on the other hand called Jmac @ 8:00 am and told him his plans on talking to their parties in congress. 3:30pm McCain called Obama back to discuss joint statement Obama proposed. 3:45 pm McCain jumps to a press conference "suspending his campaign" what a selfish and self centered person would make such move. Obama did the right thing to have called Mccain for both of them to make a non political move on the issue. We all got from the news that neither Obama nor Mccain was able to resolve anything but the committee. No one is buying Mccain's gimmicks, if he was my son he will be grouded for 2 months without pay for trying to stab a peaceful friend's back

Dani   September 26th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

Love you Joe :) I can't wait to see you clean the floor with Palin next week. Keep up the great work! Stay calm and focused; you will be our VP in November. Thank you for all the hard work you do for the American people!!

stacy   September 26th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

if this man has any expertise, it surely is not evident.

Pitbull without lipstick (get Palin out of my city, philly)   September 26th, 2008 5:08 pm ET

Biden – be careful the GOPS are going to say you are sexist during your VP debate while Palin is losing. This will be their smokescreen.

len   September 26th, 2008 5:07 pm ET

Sen Obama will not raise your taxes,but he will raise john and cindy
maccains.

Bulldog   September 26th, 2008 5:07 pm ET

McCain was directly involved just 18 years ago in our last financial crisis. Since then he has consistly supported the deregulation of Wall Street even after he said he learned his lesson. McCain was involved with Charles Keating and the Savings and Loan crisis in the early 90's. McCain was federally investigated for his role in the scandal. One of the main reasons for that financial crisis was blamed on the deregulation that was fully supported by McCain. The SAME deregulation that is blamed for today's crisis and McCain has supported it along........until last week all of a sudden.

PCS / North Carolina   September 26th, 2008 5:07 pm ET

Scott L September 26th, 2008 2:31 pm ET

"Let the smear campaign continue…
October surprise waiting in the wings and Obama will not be able to recover from it.
I am so giddy…can't wait!"

Yeah, You will be more suprised when your pro-life, gun totting relegious fanatics wins this election and lead us to an ARMAGADDON.

America will be free again   September 26th, 2008 5:06 pm ET

Did anyone see any FLIP FLOP about the debate....issues are still there unresolved. All the supporters of Mccarzy said it was leadership to leave the debate and stay doing nothing in washington or keep throwing wrench into the smooth running engines....Alabama Republicans promised to vote Obama earlier this morning McInsane changed his mind

Not Ready   September 26th, 2008 5:06 pm ET

All you Palin supporters who are trying to stick with her know you are just playing it off now. You have seen some of the so called answers she has given in interviews and you know she should not be VP, let alone President! Come on y'all, just admit it, McDumb messed up.

Dayahka   September 26th, 2008 5:06 pm ET

McCain shot himself in the head the minute he selected air-head Palin as his running mate. It does not matter what McCain's philosophy of national defense is, in fact nothing that McCain can say or do can undo the fact that he is a totally irresponsible man, with terrible judgment, that he willingly placed his country in jeopardy by selecting Palin, and that he has shown by his recent daffy suggestion of postponing the debate (like the guy who calls in sick the first day of work) that he is undependable and unreliable. McCain AND Palin should both drop out of this campaign.

Pitbull without lipstick (knightingale sings in berkley square is an idiot)   September 26th, 2008 5:05 pm ET

J. Biden – i don't think your gaffes are bad at all, you reach the common man with straightforward talk and that's why we all like you. Obama/Biden are a good ticket, they complement each other great. One guy is distinguished, intelligent and a quick learner & a gentlman while the other is rough around the edges but is tough and direct.

This is a good team to represent america of the future.

FL4OB   September 26th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

Obama/Biden understand the important philosophies of national security. They will responsibly draw down forces in Iraq to use those resources more constructively here in America and winning the right war on terror in Afghanistan.

In contrast, McCain has adopted the disastrous, neoconservative plans of Bush/Cheney/Rove.

Eight is enough!

WOWWOW   September 26th, 2008 5:03 pm ET

a b i l i t y,,,,,,,,,t o ,,,,,,,,l e a d,,,,,,,,w h a t,,,,,,,y o u,,,,,,,,a n d,,,,,,o b a m a,,,,,

l a c k

Liz   September 26th, 2008 5:02 pm ET

Obama/Biden inspires conficence–McCain/Palin inspires fear. We can't afford 4 years of stunts and temper tantrums and having someone a heartbeat away from the Presidency that can't even form a complete, coherant sentence. This is serious folks.
Obama/Biden 08.

Jeff Oregon   September 26th, 2008 5:00 pm ET

Call. You say you just realized that pailin is not ready first of all thank you for paying attation. But I must ask what the heck took you so long ?. now if I may please do not sit out Please. I wish you would take a closer look at the other candidates.

Erik   September 26th, 2008 4:59 pm ET

Hello, "Call it what it is." You plan to sit this one out?!?!?! What kind of patriotic American chooses NOT to vote? Pick the one who troubles you the least, or vote for a third-party candidate, but for the love of all that is righteous in this world, VOTE.

Dan   September 26th, 2008 4:58 pm ET

I hear that the KKK will be at Ole Miss tonight. America needs to make sure that it sends those guys a strong message. We cannot and will not tolerate that kind of non human behavior. They need to understand that they are demonstrating the exact behavior that the middle east is fighting over right now!

Spencer/Bad Newz, VA   September 26th, 2008 4:58 pm ET

McCain is a war monger and Obama would rather use diplomacy. I like Obama's position better. McCain doesn't want to sit down with our enemies. He just wants to bomb everyone. He is not stable enough to be POTUS. When the only resolution he has for any foreign crisis is war, he is defiitely out of touch with the international community. And his sidekick Failin Palin is ready to kick off a war with Russia. McPalin is not what this country needs. We need a POTUS that will speak with our enemies and restore America's standing in the world. The man for the job is Obama.

OBAMA/BIDEN 08

Roofin Reality, Houston, Tx.   September 26th, 2008 4:58 pm ET

Jim, from 4:14, that's wrong about man. Plain wrong.
Trig has special needs.

But, I did find her interview with Couric to be discouraging in terms of her having a firm grasp on anything.

I can just see her saying to Putin, "you know, I can see your country right next to my state. So don't try anything, okay?"

a REAL American   September 26th, 2008 4:56 pm ET

What a load of crap Biden!! Despite all the numerous things GW Bush has screwed up in nearly 8 years, he has done a good job in protecting this country. Maybe you and the other Democrats would've noticed if you hadn't been so busy making sure terrorists have all the constitutional rights of an American citizen!

Anonymous   September 26th, 2008 4:55 pm ET

thank you joe, you are on the job, while palin is on the JOG!!!

October Surprise!   September 26th, 2008 4:55 pm ET

Pailin will step down due to "personal reasons", Mitt Romney will step in place.

The problem is, no matter who steps in, McCain's judgement on a VP was FLAWED from the start, and you can not ignore that. You have to take that simple fact into consideration.

Vote Smart.

Marc PDX   September 26th, 2008 4:55 pm ET

Have to disagree with Joe about the conservative view. We do not believe that a terrorist attack is a local problem and not a problem to be dealt with by they federal government. I cannot fathom where he came up with that notion. The only exception to this is Berkeley, CA and that was their own choice not the federal government's. They've decided they want no part of war so no national defense or response is necessary for them evidently.

hurriCAIN PALIN   September 26th, 2008 4:54 pm ET

you have to keep the extremists out of america, not keep the door wide

open. both nobama/by-then are unqualified and inexperienced to be

potus.

NOBAMA!!!

JusLaugh   September 26th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

Joe Biden is right, once again. The republicans of the last 20+ years have no problem taking more of our money in the name of national security, but then when asked to spend it on the people it came from, they throw a fit and pretend that no one knows what is good for the country but them.

I just don't see what is so wrong, or socialist (not that socialism is always a bad thing) with starting at home and rebuilding our country from the bottom up.

I think there has to be a happy medium somewhere to rebalance our country without the left and right extremism, all of the name calling I have seen on these boards and from the candidates, and without calling people who don't agree with you stupid or worse.

Chuck   September 26th, 2008 4:52 pm ET

Call it what it is.

Even if you don't agree with all his polciies go out and vote and give Obama a chance if you are not going to vote for McCain. And if Obama does not do well then we will vote him out too. But don't sit this one out. Give the man a chance.

Marc PDX   September 26th, 2008 4:51 pm ET

I certainly hope they stick to the agenda and debate national security and not the economy and current crisis-in-progress. There will be another debate that is scheduled to cover the economy later and we won't get another chance to cover national security (and this is a VERY important topic also). So I certainly do hope that they can stick to the agenda. It IS in the interest of the American people that we hear both candidates positions on this topic.

Puddytat   September 26th, 2008 4:49 pm ET

And yet the borders are open to anybody that wants to slither through.

Nobody will say a thing about that.

While we're focused on the economy issues like attitudes on Council on Foreign Relations ... NAFTA...FTAA... The Supre Highway...
Sanctuary Cities like a few in Alaska (that Sarah Palin did nothing to prevent ) that have "Don't ask Don't Tell " policies ... that forbid the State Agencies from using resources to enforce immigration Law... ALLL of those things and more go conveniently sliding under the table while we watch the dog and pony show, staged as an ELECTION and focus on the FAILED economy destroyed by deregulation . YEA boy that "Financial Services Modernization ACT" really wwwworked it's magic 'ay?

indy chris   September 26th, 2008 4:49 pm ET

man, given the impending depression (which no bailout can stop), maybe the DEMs should throw this election and let McPsycho have it. Obama isn't going to look too pretty after inheriting a full-scale depression. I doubt people will remember that it was the GOP's fault. imagine, millions and millions of americans who used to have homes and jobs and retirements all the sudden have nothing....nothing but guns. doesn't take a genius to see what's coming.

Independent but Leaning   September 26th, 2008 4:49 pm ET

Bill Ayers

Rev. Wright

Barack Obama

Three peas in a pod

Chuck   September 26th, 2008 4:49 pm ET

Terrorism is a national and international law enforcement issue. A war against terrorism cannot be won by invading countries and trying to nation build. By following this type of strategy in the end we will end up with more enemies than friends as well as a reputation across the globe as agressors rather than liberators.

McHoover Would Destroy What's Left of America   September 26th, 2008 4:49 pm ET

I have a feeling McCain's Bomb, bomb Iran joke is going to come back and haunt him.

Anyone wondering why Iran wants a nuke, please refer to the above McCain foreign policy.

Lifelong Republican for Obama, Columbia, TN   September 26th, 2008 4:48 pm ET

I agree with Biden. Although I think that the economy should come up in this first debate, I also think that the economy could be easily connected by Obama to national security and the overall failures of the Bush Administration with the help of McCain regarding foreign policy and international relations.

We must not forget as Americans that we are still living in a very dangerous world, a danger that has been considerly inflamed by Bush-McCain. Bush has not made the United States safer and has in fact made us more vunerable to attack.

Bob Indianapolis IN   September 26th, 2008 4:48 pm ET

Pre-emptive War (a la Philp K. Dick's "Minority Report"), Endless War for Oil, Death and Destruction on the McSame side versus Strength backed by Diplomacy and a chance to form lasting alliances with our allies (who have been alienated by the Cowboy "shoot first" foreign policy) on the Obama/Biden side.

Harmony or Apocalypse. The choice is clear!

therealist   September 26th, 2008 4:47 pm ET

Hard fought Freedom vs Tail between the legs Retreat

Judy   September 26th, 2008 4:47 pm ET

We can only hope that the pit bull with her lipstick on, will take out the lame duck and all his old cronies, including John McCain the man who figured out which side his bread was buttered on many years ago. Is Sarah Palin for real? Does she really think she can boldly go where she doesn't know anything?

On a less sarcastic note, why can't this whole mess wait for a new President? In the meantime, start fixing what can be fixed and go on planning and repairing as you do a machine that has many problems. Put these men we have put in power to work. I don't see how they can "fix" everything with one agreement. Attack is as though it was an old car that's been sitting out in a farmer's ditch. Modernize and clean up all the little things that will begin to fix the problem.

Elizabeth   September 26th, 2008 4:47 pm ET

Ho Hum Joe Biden you are 66 years old, an old man with no experience
except rideing the rails we pay your transportation for.
WHAT PRAY TELL US EXPERIENCE DO YOU HAVE WITH RUSSIA?
WHY DOESN'T KATIE COURIC ASK YOU THE QUESTIONS SHE
PUT ON SARAH PALIN. SARAH PALIN HAS A HELL OF A LOT MORE
EXPERIENCE THAN OBAMA. BY THE WAY WHERE IS MICHELLE
OBAMA, SNEAKING AROUND SAYING AND FLUBBING HER REMARKS. THE NEWS MEDIA IS HIDING ANY POOR RESPONSES
SHE IS MAKING.

Jon in CA   September 26th, 2008 4:46 pm ET

Ok... In the McCain campaigns response....

they could have said... BECAUSE HE VOTED ON THIS BILL...

but they didnt. Because he didn't.

Independent in NC   September 26th, 2008 4:46 pm ET

Actually, I believe that most of the attempted attacks since 9/11 have been detected and prevented by federal agencies. And aren't the guys in special forces gear with night vision goggles the ones who have been locating and dispatching members of AQ? I agree the response will be at a local level, but I do not believe our local law enforcement will be the ones detecting the threat.

TJ Johnson   September 26th, 2008 4:45 pm ET

This remark of Biden's is as credible as his statement this week that in 1929, President Roosevelt talked about this on TV. Roosevelt was not president in 1929, and there WAS NO tv!

ken   September 26th, 2008 4:44 pm ET

"detected and responded to at the local level"

Wow Biden, so you agree that local control over all matter should be left to the community and not to the federal gov't? Finally, a Democrat who gets it. But I'm guessing this might have been another one of his gaffes.

Scott L   September 26th, 2008 4:44 pm ET

The beauty of the debate tonight is that John McCain's sweet spot is foreign policy. Knowing this, he rushed to DC, got Obama to follow along and now Obama will be LESS PREPARED for this debate.

Once again, it is a brilliant tactic.

Chris   September 26th, 2008 4:44 pm ET

Hey Joe Biden,
You know that all eyes and ears will be on you on the 2nd of October, please do not disappoint us on that day. Focus on the economy and do not critize Sarah Palin because a whole lot of people are sexist, they will use it against you. Go to the debate and knock them dead.

Matt from Mesa, Arizona   September 26th, 2008 4:44 pm ET

I think this guy needs to be given more credit... He is easily the most qualified to be the President out of these four.

Obama / Biden 08

Sandi from Ada, Michigan   September 26th, 2008 4:44 pm ET

I sincerely wish Joe Biden would stop saying he is "convinced John McCain feels as deeply as I do about protecting the homeland"

John McCain is old, and at risk of cancer, and he put Sarah Palin on his ticket.

Hate to disagree Joe, but I'm NOT convinced.

Tom in Delaware   September 26th, 2008 4:43 pm ET

That's right Joe...have a representative of the Federal goverment at every Volenteer Fire House across America.

Just what we need ...more Government.

"The Bureauacracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding Bureauacracy."

What a load!

McCain/Palin '08

disgruntled voter   September 26th, 2008 4:42 pm ET

As a former Police Officer and firefighter, I'd trust John McCain anyday of the week over the untruthful Joe Biden and inexperienced Barack Obama. No president is going to be able to single handedly "save" this country after decades of greed and corruption from both parties have landed us in this terrible position. We the people need to take our country back. And as far as McCain, at least he was "elected" by the people and not "selected" like Obama was by the likes of Pelosi and dean who are part of a larger fringe movement within the government. As a democrat, it saddens me that my party has been hijacked by an extreme left wing fraction that has ruined any chance of our party prospering and accomplishing legimate goals. God help us.

Alice Brinkley   September 26th, 2008 4:42 pm ET

Right. Obama/Biden want to take the neo-liberal view that I'm okay/you're okay/we're all okay as we heard in college. Unfortunately that does not work when there are crazies out there who hate us unreasonably.

Kelby from Houston, TX   September 26th, 2008 4:41 pm ET

WOW, after that interview with Katie Couric, I can't wait to see what she says during a debate with G.I. Joe Biden. I see why they kept her from the press. The press would have exposed her for the fool that she is. These two (Palin & Biden) will meet for a battle of wits. Unfortunately, one of the participants (Palin) appears to be unarmed.

VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS
VOTE FOR OBAMA

Farrell, Houston, Tx   September 26th, 2008 4:40 pm ET

Palin meet Joe Biden. LOL

thomas   September 26th, 2008 4:39 pm ET

Stop beating up on John McCain. He really thinks he knows what he is doing.

tom carnesi   September 26th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

Kathleen Parker is totally wrong in her view of Sarah Palin, and most likely she is totally out-of-touch with reality. Perhaps Ms. Parker is jealous of Sarah Palin's spectacular political rise to fame! GO McCain / Palin 2008......
Tom C Torrance ,CA

Tired of the Liberal Spin!!!   September 26th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

Yeah, it sounds like his handlers are going to have Obama trying to push McCain to anger and make him lose his temper. Boy, that sure sounds like a great philosophy to have when deal with other (probably hostile) nations!

Voters in the United States need to watch this closely. Instead of poking at a Republican, imagine Mr. Obama prodding the North Koreans or Iranian leaders the way he will do tonight!

Sleep well, Liberals!!! Sleep well!!

night clerk   September 26th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

then why did mccain vote against funding the local responders>
he calls funding and training local responders "pork"

typical mccain the double speak express, out both sides of his neck

no trickle down...   September 26th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

I'm starting to like this Biden chap.

nadia   September 26th, 2008 4:36 pm ET

McCain is very well suited for a military commander job : he's does a a fine job of fighting.

But a job like POTUS requires WISDOM. An ability to think logically and consider all circumstances. Calmness. Unidealogical, yet ethical thought process.

You can't put McCain in the office and expect rational outcomes. Not at all.

Scott L   September 26th, 2008 4:36 pm ET

When your salary doesn't go up high enough and you suddenly wonder where 5-15% of your paycheck disappeared to, just remember all you liberals slamming McCain.

McCain wants tax cut and tax breaks across the board for all Americans and business.

Democrats want to windfall tax ALL companies (not just oil) which will raise prices on consumers.

Then, they will add more taxes to your state and federal returns to support all these liberal agenda policies.

Then, when your company does NOT give you your bonus, nor your raise because the economy is hurting, don't come whining to Scott L that they raised your taxes on you.

Why you people would vote for that is totally beyond comprehension.

Shari, NY   September 26th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

As regards that premature debate victory ad for McCain, I think that if things don't go according to plan, his advisors should go back to their claivoyant and DEMAND a full refund.

Will-South Dakota   September 26th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

I hope they address small town rural America. It seems out here in the heartland we are ignored, for once address us and the needs we have out here.

KJL   September 26th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

McCain carries a great burden of anger left over from his Vietnam days, which I find unnerving.

Rob   September 26th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

Yeah, fundamental differences in national security philosophies:

McCain: Protect America and it's citizens against those who wish to do us harm. And yes you libs, there are people out there who hate us and it has absolutely nothing to do with George Bush, Karl Rove, Haliburton, or the Republicans.

Obama: Sit down with dictators for tea and biscuits. Apologize to them for America being a mean bad country. Promise to be nice to these dictators and turn the other way when they decide to commit acts of genocide. Withdraw US troops and tell all who wish us harm that hey, the US will run chicken if you just hold out long enough.

With McCain we have a chance at staying a superpower. If, Lord forbid, Barry-O gets in, say goodbye to the superpower status and say hello to more frequent and more violent attacks against America.

Danny from Phoenix   September 26th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

Anyone who voted on the Commission helped create it, idiot Ben Porritt. But when you give your little statements, why don't you cite specific examples of when McCain fought to ensure firefighters and police officers have the tools necessary to protect our nation? You don't have any.

Griff   September 26th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

If people did,nt wait every four years to get involved in their Countries Politics,. They put a few dollars in their savings, and then forget about it... It's safe.. Some syndicat' s Gamble Million in the USA, and you know this.. They do get involved.. It's their Business to do this. And they reap the profits...Getting more involved is the answer for the average guy. Maybe CNN should try more, when theuir is no Election, to get the average Public more aware of their investments...

Scott L   September 26th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

"Spend the money at the local level"

That translates to RAISE TAXES.

I can't believe you people so easily support someone to raise your taxes.

Guess what folks...gas is up, goods prices are up, but you know what is not up?

YOUR SALARIES. Go ahead and just give 5-10% more of it to the government for all I care.

You people are crazy for wanting to hip hip hurray that!

FactCheck   September 26th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

"I have to side with McCain, because Obama will bring us further and further down the socialist road. I'm sorry, but we're not going to pay for the bailout AND universal healthcare AND manage foreign policy AND manage the domestic front without raising crazy taxes."

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You're right... we are much better off as a nation paying for a bailout AND a war in Iraq AND a war in Afghanistan by lowering taxes for only those that make over $250,000/year.

LIZ   September 26th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

Doubt this is printed since the media loves the liberal Obama But I hope someone asks Obama why he made so much money off Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac–you know two of the entities the government( us taxpayers) bailed out?

Micheal shoemac/black republican   September 26th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

i agree sir

Obama/biden

ALLAN USA   September 26th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

PUMA,PUMA,PUMA=NO OBAMA NO OBAMA NO OBAMA.

check and checkmate   September 26th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

my question is this the bloggers from Obama/Biden have no problem being nasty, disrespectful, and at times arrogant of their opponent. Do you believe that once this campain is over no matter which side wins, that the bloggers from your camp will understand that the victor has a responsibility to bring together people and not bully. Joe answer in 25 words or less.

Libs be dopes   September 26th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

It's after 1000 PM, does his Momma know where he is?

Maybe home watching Teddy Roosevelt on TV talking about the Great Depesssion?

He should have picked Hillary or Johnny boy

tulsa   September 26th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

OK right wingers, beat up on Joe....... unlike YOUR candidate for VP, he can take it and come back for more. and more and more.

So he mis-speaks.... he's a HUMAN. Not a cardboard cutout.

You keep on being yourself Joe, we think the world of ya.

Charles   September 26th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

It blows my mind why no one really understands the reality of what all these crooks on both sides are trying to do to us. Wall street , the treasury and Bush all ordered 700 billin dollar stakes and gave us the check to pay the tab. There is no money, all they are doing is giving us debt!!!! Just like the illegal fiat currency system by the Feds was designed to do. If we already have or have the potential to have 700 Billion dollars then should,'t each american be able to go to a bank get our portion of it and pay our morgages off and they get thier money like that? I mean isn't it common sense. They don't want us to pay off our mortgages, they want us to aquire more debt by being involuntary garantors of a 700 billion dollar loan! Once this country crosses this line, thier is no going back!

indy   September 26th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

Who let him talk again?

Moxie   September 26th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

I am so sick of this back and forth bickering. Enough already!!! What's good for the goose, etc.....Look in the mirror Joe...Mr. Kettle? Meet Mr. Pot. I think Biden should shut up and let the big boys deal with important issues like national defense. He should stick to removing his foot from his big mouth.

anonymous   September 26th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

I can't believe the poeple that listen to this big-mouthed idiot. How many times does he have to put not one, but both feet in his mouth? Everyone is so eager to slam Sarah Palin for any little thing but this guy, who you all think knows it all, keeps gaffing his way through and its ok? Roosevelt on TV?? geez, what an idiot.

Big D   September 26th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

The fundamental difference is McCain is reckless and willing to take unreasonable risks. Obama is sensible and reasonable, and will think things through rationally. McCain just does not have the temperment or judgement to be President. Obama does.

FreeNLovIt   September 26th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

Hi Palin!

Although I am not for you, I respect you, a hard-working woman. You stood up for what you believe in and that's great! America needs people like you and McCain for future wars, but definitely not now.

You complete the Democrats. Like I have said before, the Republican Fighting Machine is battery-operated by the Democrats.

Dont worry, after the Democrats clean up the House, you can always come back and finish off the war on terrorism.

Tainopower   September 26th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

Not sure about obama joe?

Joe   September 26th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

Palin should be shrugging off this kind of nonsense. How much gubernatorial experience did she have before she became governor? Same as any other first-time governor – zero.

How much senatorial experience did Obama have before he became a senator? Zero.

That's what advisors are for. Hire for capability and the rest will follow. I'd say VICE president is a great onramp for her in Washington. If McCain dies 3 weeks into office, she'd struggle at first, but she'd get on her feet.

Independent   September 26th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

About the debate tonight. McCain "suspended" his campaign for political purposes, and in doing so he put immense pressure on the bailout deal by tying it to the presidential debate timing. But since he had little concrete to offer, he created confusion rather than resolve it.

Let there be no doubt. Obama called his bluff on the debate. McCain blinked.

Maureen / Newman, California   September 26th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

A lot of things do not make sense with McCain. This is what happens when politicians become sellouts for any cause that might bring future votes to them. He's flip flopped more than Shawn Johnson.

MikeH   September 26th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

Oh, it's about time for the afternoon Ticker comment moderator who's a Republican operative to start working, don't expect to see any more of my posts for today.

Joe   September 26th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

why is it that the press never touches the huge gaffes made by this joker. He claims FDR was president in 1929 and that he went on TV to talk about the market crash – RETARD

If that were Palin the press would run the story for a week and say she should step down. Since it was said by a democrat they throw it somewhere in fine print.

9/11 Trademark:   September 26th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

Mark my words all we will hear tonight from McWar is 911. As Keith Olbermann puts it-it is the republican trademark. While most of us want to put that day behind us they continue to use it for political gain. I had no comment and no doubt McCain would show up tonight. He has to. Period. He just needed some attention. I hope he enjoyed his 15 minutes of fame. All he really accomplished is how foolish he is and unresponsible. I can't wait to see Obama prove to the world just how ignorant he and Palin really are. Of course, most of us already know this.

Go Obama!

DebM, Allentown, PA   September 26th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

Since the Biden/McCain tax hike ticker is closed, let me post this here.

Biden is right…McCain's move to health care credits will cost us a ton. The health care benefit provided by my husband's employer for our family costs them $14,000. Our tax credit would be $5,000. Can you do the math? Tax on $9,000 of difference between the two. Not to mention that his plan sets the stage for price gouging on health insurance premiums. It's completely, utterly misguided.

No Way, No How, No McCain/Palin

MikeH   September 26th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

The McCain campaign is the expert in telling bald-face lies. Hey Ben Porritt, care to tell the truth about the Fannie Mae $15K/month your boss was getting up until August? No? I didn't think so, you don't have any kind of pair, truth to you is just an inconvienient word.

On a seperate issue, CNN why do you waste valuable article space and bandwidth with articles by Reubin Navarette. The guy is as Republican boot-licking toady as they come. Why don't you just post articles by Bill O'Reilly, Ann Coulter, or Lyndon LaRouche, if you're going to post Navarette.

Susan   September 26th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

God, McCain hates it when Biden tells the truth. McCain voted no on these bills. End of story! Go Joe!

Beltway Insider   September 26th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

Obama will get a 5 to 10 point boost in the polls after this debate. Once America sees McCain confused and bumbling compared to Obama's knowledge, intellect, and personality, this election will be all but over.

CW in PSL   September 26th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

We know Joe ever since the announcement of Palin....we see that John McCain is a LOSER. He is just the beneficiary of the people around him....entering a naval academy just because his relatives had clout, married a rich hieress so he can live off her money....the same way he is out there lying his face off so he can come live off the American people......country first my butt!

Silence Dogood   September 26th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Why are we listening to this guy? Wasn't he just busted on his latest lie about taxes?

From FactCheck.org: The Whoppers of 2008 – Where McCain and Obama have misled voters.

A must read. How can anyone vote for either of these two liars?

Vote Green Party – an alternate to McBama – vote for the people, not for the corporate suits.

Brian   September 26th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Why does CNN employ Navarrette and Beck? How come the do not have any liberal commentators?

Biased towards the right...... I might as well read FOX news reports

Debby   September 26th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

I see another CNN factcheck coming and about the 10 Gaffe by Biden in one week. This is experience you can count on. LOL

McCain Invented the BlackBerry, Palin Invented the Manure Spreader   September 26th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

National security starts with a strong economy, and John McGimmick has proven that he doesn't have a clue where the economy is concerned.

It was, in fact, the one thing he has been honest about so far: "I don't know as much about the economy as I should."

That's probably why his chief economic advisor ("John McCain couldn't run a corporation") and the Wall Street Journal (McCain's call to fire SEC Chairman is "unpresidential") seem to agree.

McCAIN HAS NO ANSWERS. HIS ENTIRE CAMPAIGN IS BASED UPON LIES AND CHEAP GIMMICKS.

Too bad we can't actually vote him uot of the Senate in this election. He's shown over the past couple days that he doesn't even need to be President to screw up the economy.

ines   September 26th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

An amazing speech.

charles   September 26th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

Joe who?

Call it what it is.   September 26th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

I have lost confidence in McCain and the Republican party. I have decided to sit this one out. I was intitially excited about Pailin because she ignited the base. But now, I realize that she is not ready. What happened to you John? You were my hero.

McCain = McChicken   September 26th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

Go get 'em Joe! You are da man!

Bridget   September 26th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

I love when he says "malarkey".

Jim   September 26th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

After watching Palins interview with Couric I'm pretty sure Trig is her child and not Bristols.

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