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the average south korean is 3 " taller than the average north korean?? jeez mccain sounds nuts.

Out of curiosity, why doesn't McCain ever address his remarks to Obama? He consistently looks at the moderator.

McCain just scored a big point about speaking with iranians without pre conditions

shnider if you like war then yes.........
if you are old and falling sleep and think that we are still in the 20th century yes

and since we know that you support mcbush all over again

sure , say what you want

most of us watching fall sleep listening to this OLD FART who can not even remember who is who or what

tthis guy is rsorting to old history, which hellooooooooooooo nothing to do with NOW

OLD OLD MCSAME
OLD OLD MCFART
my friends this is dangerous

jajajjaaa

all the world is laughing at the mcfart

mighty mouse

I use to be an Obama supporter and I'm gay and liberal but I have to say that I feel much comfortable with John McCain now noticing how experienced and knowledgeable he is. I think I'm switching.

I think McCain is prejudice, not once has he looked at Obama nor did he want to shake his hand when they first came out. Obama has been talking and looking at McCain from the beginning and McCain hasn'y looked that way yet.

Schneider, are you watching the same debate? Please pay attention. Barack is crushing McCain. This is supposed to be McCain's strength? WOW?

Obama's comment that McCain acts as if the war in Iraq started when the surge began was one of the best.

OBAMA IS AWSOME!!!! HE IS RIGHT ON POINT

I don't see him scoring too many points on this issue and from the sounds of things on this board a large number of people agree with me on this.

Obama is more schooled on foreign policy with out using platitudes. His plan makes sense in light of the events that have unfolded since 9-11.

Ok if McCain thinks we have "won" because of his surge in Iraq then why have we not brought the troops home or diverted them to Afghanistan, which actually did bomb us in our own country?

Overall, the debate is poorly moderated allowing both to speak as if they are giving speeches rather than follow the debate rules. But, Bill's silver hair has some reason to support John than anything else.

E Ray – US needed to focus in Afgnaistan – please don't fool yourself there has been no terrorist attacks in Afganistan or Al Qaida since we kicked them out since 9-11. America security is centered around the Middle East! Know your Middle East history before you post a comment!

OBAMA DOES NOT WANT WAR....WHAT HE IS SAYING IS THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON AFGHANISTAN....I LOVE THE COMMENT HE JUST MADE...OBAMA SAYS THAT HE WILL MEET WITH THOSE IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES WHEN HE CHOOSES, NOT JUST BECAUSE MCCAIN THINKS THAT HE SHOULD......SMART

And one more point if anyone if condesending it is Obama!!! He can't even call McCain by his name....not once, not twice, but several times let's not play that game...

Far too much time is being spent on the subject of Iran and Iraq. All of that will end soon enough due to money. How about what they will do for the American people. Change the subject al right al ready. I want to know about Health Care, the economey, education, gas crisis.

I am so proud of Obama sticking to the points and standing his ground respectfully.

can mcshame admit that there should not have been a war in Iraq

He doesnt want to cut taxes on the oil companies because his pockets are getting fat.

Ben

What debate are you watching. slight edge to McSame on foreign affairs. Obama destroyed him on the economy

What I don't understand is why McCain doesn't call Obama on the fact that when the war was voted on Obama was not in the senate and was not in public office and had nothing to loose... Obama was writing his autobiography or memories or whatever they are called and McCain was already serving in the Senate. Obama risked nothing when and if he spoke out against the war had he been in the Senate things might have been different just look at Obama's record.

Bill get real. A surge should not have been because the war in Irag should have not been.

schneider????? huh???? What are you talking about???

Obama looks so confident and presidential, Mccain looks scared and nervous. OBAMA is talking to us as people,Mccain is stuck in his old ways. Hey you cant show and old dog new tricks

MCCAIN HAS HORRIBLE BODY LANGUAGE...HE CAN'T LOOK OBAMA IN THE EYE....THAT'S THE SIGN OF A SOMEONE WHO HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE...I DON'T TRUST HIM AT ALL

Schneider, are we watching the same debate?

Bill,

I must be watching a debate in a parallel universe!, Hopefully, I will find the time portal at the end of the debate!

McCain has lost sight of what the surge was about..it's wasn't about just fighting..the Anwar Awakening tossed Al Quada out of their area, Sadr, and Saudi Arabia coming together had decreased the violence six months prior to the surge.
The surge was to help the al Malaki Government form a political consensus with Sunnis, Shias, and Kurds and create a constitution. What McCain's surge has done is ghetoized Iraq with walls and barb wire separating Sunnis from Shias into separate areas. These people lived togther and intermarried prior to Bush and McCain invading the country.

he did score more points on iraq, but here's the problem. America is TIRED OF IRAQ and Obama saying that we should've never gone there is ultimately a stronger argument.

I must agree, going into iraq was the problem in the first place. The US needed to focus solely on Afghanistan.

McCain is hell bent on continuing this war in the middle east and he is building up to the "fear factor" of the Bush administration.

I don't blame McCain for not looking at Obama in the end who really cares they are not running for most likeable they are running to be the Head of our country!! I don't care if neither one likes the other one........Just say the truth stop the lies...

Obama is wavering! He is clearly more intelligent and has the right policies (economic and international) but his delivery is very poor. Unless he pulls it together the debate is going to mccain (god help us if he wins!)

People wake up – McCain is wining like he did the other time REMEBER!

Obama is telling america what he will do if elected while McCain is using the same scare tactics.

McCain is absolutely destroying Obama on both the economy and foreign policy. McCain seems to be talking from his heart and Obama sounds like he has strings pulling his jaw up and down with nothing but scripted responses.

I'm shocked McCain is doing so well after all the negativity from this site saying how McCain didn't stand a chance.

McCain/Palin '08

MC CAIN MADFE REMARKS TO OIL IN IRAN.

SOUNDS LIKE ANOTHER WAR FOR OIL ?

Senator McCain has not once looked at Sen. Obama and it is so unbelievably ridiculous!!! He needs to grow up!

A war that was built on lies much like the McCain campaign.Obama is absolutley keeping up or ahead of bomb bomb McCain.I am getting sick of McCain saying Obama does not understand only to have Obama come out with the correct understanding.It is easy to tell McCain has dropped in polls as he starts the scare tactics.

MCCAIN just does not get it, they used 9/11to go to iraq and that was wrong. Of course once a war starts you have to fight whether it was right to go their or not. BUT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THEIR IN THE FIRST PLACE

Obama is against the war in Iraq but in favor of war with Pakistan! Go figure!!!!

Oh no he didn't just say 'straight talk'! OMG, he's delusional.

I too disagree with Schneider. Although McCain so far is ho.lding his own, he rambles too much, isnt' giving clear answers and is a bit testy. Obama is doing better, especially considering foreign policy is suppose to be a McCain edge.

I beg to differ. They are both talking to America!!! If they did not want anyone to look at the moderator they should have placed in the dim light too!! That is just nit picking. I think that Obama's strategy is to piss of McCain which he should be concetrating on the questions and what we Americans need.

the surge was a one time incident and anyone who was against the war would be against the surge. did it work? yes but what difference has it really made. I still want to know how we are winning the war and what we are getting out of even being over there.

What points. He jokes about bombing Iran and supported the war to began with. So what points can he make at this time. He is not good underpressure. He look like he wants to jump out his skin

Get over how the war started...both parties heard the same intelligence and both parties cheered the President along with the rest of the country when we went in and defeated the murderous tyrant. We are there now and we need to win. Our troops are committed and our commanders on the ground are smart. We can't back out...BTW...McCain is not attached to the President, if he was, I would be paying for your financial bailout.

Invading another country is WRONG! Period!! Nothing can be justified about a wrong war.

He just stated that he visited Iraq...I know for a fact that he ONLY visited the places where the President could be allowed to go!!! He did not go into where the troops are there suffering!!! Maybe if the world would wake up and see that maybe that could see that McCain is WRONG!!!

Bill Clinton is right.

This guy has parlayed one speech against the war in 2003 into an entire presidential campaign.

Hope for change, change for hope, need for change, change for need, duh.

Can I be president too?

Show me one picture, where McCain actually looks at Obama! At no time does McCain even look at him! Body language suggests Senator McCain is purely disgusted with Senator Obama.

i disagree with you, Bill....

Maggie,

You are right. Obama is talking straight to McCain ever since Jim insisted at the start they should be talking directly and not through him.

Im curious as to how he is GAINING points? Yes Sen. Obama opposed the surge, at least he took a stance on what he thought was right. The fact that he STILL says that if he had to do it over he would vote against it, shows more character than Sen. McCain saying he still thinks it was a good idea to go to war in the first place!

McCain is partially right about the surge; however, Obama is right the war in Iraq should have never happened.

Look, McCan't: Didn't you hear what Obama said? We wouldn't be talking about the surge in Iraq if Bush/Cheney/Rice didn't lie about WMDs being in Iraq.

HEART STRING TUGGING, IS OLD MC CAIN.

Love the pink tie, Obama.

I am frustrated with listening to McCain speak about Iraq!!! Does he even know that Gen. Petreaus is not the General any longer??? My fiance is there serving and I am digusted with McCain right now!!!

Hey, stop using our soldiers as your 'special' friends................both of you! Only one of you on that stage know anything about serving your country in a foreign land. I am not a supporter of either. But shut the heck up about WE WERE WRONG TO GO INTO IRAQ guess what? W\e are there so deal w/ that, hindsight is 20/20

Obama is a joke when it comes to foreign policy. Simply speaking about what he had been briefed on by his campaign advisors- not experience.

Can we just stop sending our boys and girls into the mouth of the dragon just to satisfy the armchair warmongers.

Obama is focusing on going into Iraq – a vote he didn't particate in because he was in Illinois. Anyone can be right in hinesight, but we don't need somebody who has figured out events he watched on CNN....we need somebody who figures out how to resolve current and future events, somethinghe has never done.

I agree, McCain is talking to the moderator, Obama is talking to America.

Obama's strategy of ticking McCain off seems to be working. A lot of jaw grinding and rosy faces.

"dishonor" "dishonor" "dishonor" - that's all McCain is about. Well it was a dishonor to go into Iraq in the first place and that is something he can't admit.

McCain is doing a good job, and obama supporters would never admit so dont look for them too.

You win some, you loose some and some are a draw. It still does not change the spots on the leopard.

John McCain and these stories. Deal with the issues. You would not have to tell these stories if you did not go into Iraq! Liars!!

i have mccain on mute.

McCain scoring points.... Obama scoring points...... and when are they supposed to start debating and exchange ideas instead of showing us their attack ads ?

Why is there no mention of us paying the Iraqis not to fight? Also, why is John just repeating parts of his stump speech.

McCain is an idiot! McCain isn't even answering the question....it's a round a round we go, let me spin my words to sound like I know what I'm saying! What a loser!

Shut up Schnieder! Your trying to push you bias and bigoted opinion on the rest of us who are clear able to watch the debate and make up our own minds! McCain is showing what a lier and egomanic he is...

Foreign policy was linked with global finances of course they are both tied on is perceived to be strong on one issue and the other on the other issue.......

I think Obama does better than McCain, so I think I have to disagree with you, Bill

Why is McCain so focused on the past and not the present.? I have watched and listened to the debate but he keeps bringing up items that have happened years ago? for me that is the past and I personally don't think he is scoring points as most of the voters now live in the future

CNN stop this. John McCain is not scoring points.

How can anyone vote for Senator Obama when he can't even pronounce the words Taliban and Pakistan.

Schnieder's working for Fox now?

Iraq war was wrong, we need to get out and stop sending money to them, we need that money here to fix our economy.

Really, the story tonight is how McCain is playing small ball with each issue, and does not get the big picture. A sinking ship requires big action, not fingers plugging leaks.

This surge business is getting old...we shouldn't be there in the first place, ergo McCain loses.

Win WHAT??? Can somebody PLEASE tell me what we stand to WIN in Iraq? What win???!!! It frustrates me so to hear McCain continually talk about winning in Iraq, but what the heck is winning?

Well he was wrong on the surge!!! How could Obama not acknowlege that he was wrong!!! Just like he is wrong for the country at this time!!!!

I don't know that he is scoring points when you go back to the fact that the American people were lied to when we went into Iraq. We went on false pretenses thanks to this Republican President that John McCain is so attached to.

He sure as hell is.

this is such old news, comeon obama we know you opposed the war and the surge, lets get over that and get on with a real discussion.

You drove the car in the ditch. Just because you figured out how to get it out, doesn't mean you have sound judgement

You're wrong Bill

Yeah of course ! he is just scoring bad points!

what are you watching?

Obama is clearing winning

Yes and you want to hear what.... ... WE ALL KNOW WE SHOULD NOT HAVE GONE INTO IRAQ...... a surge...???? hum.... we should not have gone into a war of choice not preparing our sons to fight and kill those who did nothing to us..

The surge isn't the issue. It's the STUPID judgement that sent us into that FOOLISH war. And McCain had that STUPID judgement.

Who cares about a surge. The surge did not win the war in Iraq, and is just a small move forward. It does not fix the big mistake of ever going into Iraq in the first place, and will not leave to "winning". There is no way to "win" that kind of war. Why put more money and people and deaths into surges when the most it could do it advance you a little.

Uh oh– bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb bomb Iran and Johnny B Good has a scowl on his face.

are you watching the same debate i am?

I disagree... Obama seems to be debating with McCain. McCain is debating with the moderator.

Neither was right 100%. The question is how it will be handled moving forward.

This is suppose to be McCain's turf, but they are doing about even.

McCain better pick it up with the remaining half hour because he is not going to do well on the next two domestic debates.

this ticker is so behind...its 956 and this was brought up 5 mins ago. what happened to minute by minute

schneider i beg to differ!!!! If we never went in in the first place we won't be talking about the surge!!!....oh by the ways where are the WMDs