OXFORD, Mississippi (CNN) - McCain is saying that if you meet without preconditions you are legitimizing them.
Obama, on the other hand, said he would not impose preconditions, but he would insist on preparation.
It's a very complicated argument.
Obama= Changing my position once again...
I don't want another war without discussion first. We need the support of our allies that we lost during this unjust war in Iraq. Fighting a war that was not true (NO WMD's) is not the answer. Over 4,000 U.S. Soldiers died and imagine how many families were impacted by Bush's and McCain's war!
This isn't a complicated argument.. McCain is wrong and Obama is right! its that simple
It is not complicated. Obama is just smart. He is not changing his position. Any SMART leader would insist on preparation before meeting any leader whether he/she is head of a democratic country or not.
you expect these issues to be simple? guess sarah palin can be president then.
Obama is trying to change the definition of no preconditions. He knows he is wrong and is just too arrogant to admit it. He looks smug, naive, and arrogant.
For about half the items I see Obama taking a position on, I've found contrary quotes from him within the past 6 months. Must be hard keeping all those stories straight.
McCain is appearing to be so irritable...and that says alot .
Obama is being kind and careful and as a voter I want someone who won't get so fussy that he might hit the red button just because of his temper.
If everyone would be honest, we have not really heard and "answers" from Senator McCain. The only thing that we have heard is his hearsay of what other people have said, his times served in the past and war. Does he not have any opinion or idea of his own as a presidental candiate
Obama has come on strong with foriegn policy. I think people should be encouraged with stances.
overseas always more important than the problems we are facing in our own country first, thats sad.
bill, make sure you guys talk about mccains body language.
Talking to someone does not legitimize them. Imposing sanctions and preconditions on someone legitimizes their actions. The only way to NOT legitimize someones actions is by completely ignoring them and not even thinking or speaking about them.
it's not complicated. Preconditions means that the opposing leader must agree to ACCEPT U.S. POLICIES before a meeting can take place. Preparation means that diplomacy and logistics are undertaken before a meeting can take place. Big difference, very clear.
McCain was absolutely wrong about Kissinger. On Sept. 15, in front to colin powell and others on national television, specifically said that the next president should meet without condition with Iran. Look it up if you don't belive me. My comment will probably not even make it to post anyway
In the case mentioned, "preparation" would be announcing that meeting with Iran insinuates no change in our standing by Israel. How is that complicated?
If you go with a concluded mindset and preconditioned spirit, what do you expect to accomplish out of diplomatic talks? McCain just wants to speak the language of bombs, Obama diplomacy. Let's make a choice.
You can not win the world by increasing the number of enemies, but using direct diplomacy and increasing friends all over.
preparations: have lower division communications first
preconditions: Telling them "do everything we want or we won't talk to you at all"
makes sense to me.
Did anyone notice that throughout the night.... Sen. John McCain has avoided looking Sen. Obama in the eye. What does that signify? Also he barely agrees with Sen. Obama on any issues in order to express his bipartisan leadership.
I disagree with the legitimizing arguement. I think he believes that, but I don't think it has to be true. There should always be an open door to discussion, even if the bullets are flying.
Sen. Obama is taken the same position that President Kennedy did. Diplomacy is key to keeping our country safe and having good relationships with all countries. Let's not lose sight of diplomacy.
can you Mr. SCHNIEDER after the debate talk about Obama losing anti war voters with his push for his "justified" war in Afghanistan.
NOw both candidates want war in the middle east.
- he trying to beat mccain at his own game, and he is failing, miserably.
Obama did NOT Change Positions 'DL' Some folks just dont Know the difference!
Golly Geeeee from where Im sitting seems Bush followd Sen. Obama in establishing talks with Iran!!!! Something they opposed!
Regarding the debate –
Level of contempt by Senator McCain, he showed absolutely NO respect for Senator Obama.
I am furious with McCain’s lack of blatant disrespect for Senator Obama.
He never ONCE looked at Senator Obama throughout the entire 1.5 hr. debate.
Senator looked at Senator McCain throughout the entire debate and he addressed him by name many times.
How many times did he say Sn. Obama doesn’t understand, Sn. Obama fails to understand, again Sn. Obama is being naïve.
I think Obama is failing tonight all the way around. He sounds flustered and I don't see any true experience that is needed for president.