October 16, 2008
Posted: October 16th, 2008 03:08 PM ET

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Sen. Lieberman campaigned with Sen. McCain in Pennsylvania Thursday.
Sen. Lieberman campaigned with Sen. McCain in Pennsylvania Thursday.

DOWNINGTON, Pennsylvania (CNN) - It wasn’t quite the starring role that he had at the last presidential debate, but Joe the plumber still had top billing at the McCain event in Downingtown, Pennsylvania Thursday.

The senator from Arizona didn’t declare himself the winner in Wednesday night’s sparring match with Barack Obama, bestowing that honor instead on America’s newest star, Ohio resident Joe Wurzelbacher.

“My friends, we had a good debate last night. It was a lot of fun, you know. I thought I did pretty well. The real winner last night was Joe the plumber,” said McCain to applause and chants of “Joe.”

“Joe’s the man. He won, and small businesses won across America. They won because the American people are not going to let Senator Obama raise their taxes in a tough economy. They are not going to let him do it, my friends.”

And that wasn’t the last we heard of Joe. McCain again elaborated on what Obama to the Ohio plumber in their weekend meeting.

“He wanted to spread his wealth around. What does that mean? He wants the government to take Joe’s money and give it to somebody else, “McCain said as the crowd booed. “His hard earned dollars. We are not going to stand for that. America didn't become the greatest nation on earth by spreading the wealth; we became the greatest nation on earth by creating new wealth.”

The Republican presidential nominee had more criticism for Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson. “I agree with the chairman of the FDIC, who said that Secretary of the Treasury in this government is not going enough to help people stay in their homes,” he said. “That has got to be our first priority. Not Wall Street. Not the bankers. Not the investment houses.”

McCain also reprised his debate night line about George W. Bush, which had been left out of his prepared remarks Thursday.

“We can’t spend the next four years as we have spent much of the last eight: waiting for our luck to change. As I mentioned last night to Senator Obama, I’m not George Bush, and if he wanted to run against George Bush he should have run four years ago.”

Obama holds a double-digit edge over McCain in Pennsylvania in the CNN poll of polls released this week, and his road to capturing the states’ 21 electoral votes looks rocky.

But his friend and constant companion, Senator Joe Lieberman, said that last night changed the dynamic of the race.

“We turned the corner in the debate last night. We changed the momentum. We are on the road to victory in Pennsylvania.”

Filed under: Joe Lieberman • John McCain • Pennsylvania


republicans hate america   October 16th, 2008 4:43 pm ET

If McCain wins this its due to fraud I will not believe it any other way.

A ROSE FROM IOWA   October 16th, 2008 4:43 pm ET

Absolutely creepy!!! Their divisive and poisonous campaign keeps getting it wrong yet they think they are doing great. McCain looked crazy, angry and had facial tics during the debate...he needs anxiety meds. And a reality check about balancing the budget in the first term. How will he do that? Maybe he'll use Cindy's money. Wouldn't that be something???

Or something else...Ho Hum...I have better things to do other than think about that old coot.
I have already voted to ease my own anxiety levels.

Joe Regis   October 16th, 2008 4:43 pm ET

The victory that Joe achieved 8 years ago. I see.

true value hardware   October 16th, 2008 4:43 pm ET

"Joe" the plumber it turns out is not even a licensed plumber, is not registered to vote, and is a tax evader.

Just the type of "true american" beloved by FOX.

Ooops, sorry this is CNN, where they MIGHT sometimes actually report the news instead of rattling us with enless party talking points about terrorists etc...

might

And Joe Lieberman, is a registered democrat but might want to start looking for work as a plumber.

I cannot wait for this circus to end.

Pat, Pa.   October 16th, 2008 4:42 pm ET

Lieberman, your " babysitting " days are almost over and then you can go home. Cindy will have to take over full time at that point.
Why are you constantly " sucking up " to McCain ? Did he promise you something if he makes it ?

republicans hate america   October 16th, 2008 4:42 pm ET

People pay no attention to the ground noise of these thugs go to the polls on November 4th thrust Obama to the WH and make McPhony and Gidget live in denial for the rest of their pathetic lives.

John McPalin   October 16th, 2008 4:42 pm ET

We're going to sit on my porch at the ranch and recall the good ole days me and my boyfriend Joe. Heck we'll even have Joe the plumber over too.

McWho??   October 16th, 2008 4:42 pm ET

LAUGHABLE

Jeanette   October 16th, 2008 4:41 pm ET

One of McCain's biggest problems is the people he surrounds himself with – Sara Palin being the worst.
Too many bad decisions has made John McCain look angry and desperate and weak.
And anyone, anyone, that tries to convince themselves, and others, that Palin is qualified to be VP and President is seriously delusional.

John in PA   October 16th, 2008 4:41 pm ET

I live in PA. No one gives a crap of what Joe Lieberman says. He has absolutely zero influence over anyone in this state. What's all this "we" talk of his anyway? If he worked this hard in 2000, we wouldn't have had this mess for the last 8 years. What a loser.

ANGIE   October 16th, 2008 4:41 pm ET

Oh Joe I dont know which one is more funnier today Joe Liberman or Joe the Plumber

Debby   October 16th, 2008 4:41 pm ET

CNN do you see your blog comments above its like reading 3rd grader remarks. Are you catering now to grade and higschoolers.

dwayne   October 16th, 2008 4:40 pm ET

Lieberman=biggest political opportunist

keep telling yourself Joe after Nov 5 when neither Democrats or Republicans and Independents has no use for you!

Lieberman_for_president   October 16th, 2008 4:40 pm ET

He is a Democrat, and has a lot of experiences in public service, country first, with hands-on government-achievements, not just Obama-like rhetoric, all smooth talks and empty promises, or flip-flopping, so Lieberman should know better than most of us common people. God bless America, in the tradition of our founding-fathers such as George Washington, Abraham Lincoln and Ronald Reagan! Is it the destiny of America, and the world?

Michael   October 16th, 2008 4:40 pm ET

NIce try at spin McCain, but almost everyone else thinks you Lost the Debate and are about to lose the race for the White House.

America think for you   October 16th, 2008 4:40 pm ET

Go out and vote early to avoid long line. You can start voting now.

the other jd   October 16th, 2008 4:40 pm ET

McCain has turned the corner? Does that mean he is going to employ a surge of plumbers to invade FL, OH and PA?

sabuc for voting early!   October 16th, 2008 4:40 pm ET

Alright people. Time for the real test! Vote early or show up early to vote on Nov 4. Nobody is ahead or behind until the last ballot is counted on Nov 4th!! Make sure all your friends and family members get out and vote!!

Nimi from NY   October 16th, 2008 4:39 pm ET

I don't know which country he's living in. If it is this one, Obama won the debate and considering what we've been hearing and seeing in the polls he may actually win the election come Nov 4.

RIF   October 16th, 2008 4:39 pm ET

Lieberman is on the road to being offically kicked out of the democratic caucaus.

Eric   October 16th, 2008 4:39 pm ET

Lieberman was promised something for all this crap, cause it doesn't make "rational" sense.

tony   October 16th, 2008 4:39 pm ET

This comes from the same people who said we are on the verge of victory in Iraq. Given the polls, it is hard to understand what they mean by victory. Do they mean moral victory?

Ramen Dude   October 16th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

Wow! Look at Joe Lieberman's strained smile. Imagine him with clenched teeth, saying "I'm so happy even if I'm not the VP pick..."
:)
:)
:)
:(

StevieRay fan   October 16th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

LOL!!! Liberman is praying because he will be without ANY friends after Nov 4th.

White Christian Mother for Obama   October 16th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

Lieberman is as Delusional as McCain and Palin LOL....

Now we might know why he is friends with McCain and so tight.. They BOTH are SENILE!!!... and Palin is just a Naive Dingy Barbie who pops her head back and forth saying "I... DONT.. KNOW....."

Dustin   October 16th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

What a freaking nutbar. Stop talking about the stupid plumber, you're just digging yourself a deeper poll hole.

Shari, NY   October 16th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

Oh Mr. Lieberman. Please join Jesse Jackson, Donald Trump, and other eligible geezers at the podiatrist's office to see if all the misplaced feet can be removed in one shot!

Deb in Colo   October 16th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

More Republican revisionist history.

McCain didn't win the debate.
Palin was found gulty of ethics violations.

But the Republicans don't believe a word of it.

Winnie Hussein . . . in Montana   October 16th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

To whom much is given, much is expected. Luke 12:48 Sen. Obama seems to get that, but Sens. McCain and Lieberman don't. Why is that? Oh, at least in Sen. McCain's case, he's just like George W. He is the son of a politically connected family who has gotten everything he desires because of those connections, not by earning them. Hmmm, me thinks it is time for a change in Washington.

Sen. McCain, please take your turncoat buddy Lieberman, your second rate beauty queen, Palin, your pal who profited off of the war (profiteering is bad, folks), and all your other comrades and hang out in Arizona for awhile. Really, just pick one of your houses and give all your buddies one of your cars to drive.

BM   October 16th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

Lieberman, I used to respect you and even voted for your ticket, but you are dillusional too. You and McSame seem to have a lot in common.

Phil in KC   October 16th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

I don't know what you've been smoking, Joe, but it must be some good stuff. Or maybe you know something the rest of us don't? I'd say you've hitched your wagon to a falling star.

Tolu   October 16th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

Victory?! I have no words...

Tired of the Nonsense   October 16th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

....and if you believe this one, I've got a bridge in Alaska I wanna sell ya!

"You betcha!" ;) LOL

OBAMA/BIDEN'08/'12

wjc   October 16th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

Joe Lieberman = Mr. Irrelevant

Matt   October 16th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

Insurance companies should be psyched. Anyone with a brain in their head who lives in a major city, particularly an inner city, should be buying insurance against the riots that will take place if the republicans win and it looks even remotely like they stole the election again.

MG   October 16th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

Lieberman is as out of touch as McCain. Makes me wonder what world these two are living in.

Ken in Dallas   October 16th, 2008 4:37 pm ET

Sure, he's on the road to victory. Only thing is, he's running the WRONG WAY!

Walt   October 16th, 2008 4:36 pm ET

Joe Lieberman-Al Gore's biggest mistake. Let's have a poll. Who was the worst Vice Presidential pick of the last 100 years:

A. Nixon
B. Palin
C. Quayle
D. Lieberman

Wow, it sure is a tough choice...all are so deserving.

Bob Indianapolis IN   October 16th, 2008 4:36 pm ET

AIPAC Joe! Friend of Neo-cons everywhere! Also pals around with Joe Six-Pack and Joe the Plumber....

John the Electrician   October 16th, 2008 4:36 pm ET

Just like 2008 Nobel Price winner in Economics, Professor Krugman said "Republicans are becoming the party of the stupid". The whole economy mess is created by Bush failed Republican economics principles and policies. Please don't forget, John, you're the presidential candidate of Republican Party!!

Blue By You   October 16th, 2008 4:36 pm ET

Lieberman, POOF! there goes your cabinet position. POOF! there goes your chairmanship. The people of CT do not like traitors. This is your last term.

Independent for Obama   October 16th, 2008 4:36 pm ET

Poor Liberman, nobody wants him.,Democrats, Republicans or Independents. He has to cling onto that hope that McCain may win and he might have a shot in McCains presidency, maybe the dog walker.

robert   October 16th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

FROM JOE THE PLUMBER TO JOE LIEBERMAN ,I SMELL DESPERATE.

opeluboy   October 16th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

Lieberman is going to end up with no friends and hopefully no job.

Cindy Nelson   October 16th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

Leiberman~ Your a traitor. No one likes a dirty traitor.
McCain is going down, and you are not welcome in the Democratic party~ At least not in my world you are not welcome.
McCain thought so much of you, he went and picked Palin to be his VP~ And now he's going to lose for picking that joke of a VP choice.

Bulldog   October 16th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

Lieberman is a disgrace. Lieberman better hope McCain wins because if he doesn't Lieberman is going to be a lonely man in Washington beginning in January.

Jorge -- SF_CA   October 16th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

This traitor should be kicked to the other side of the aisle!

Cindy, Kansas City   October 16th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

I just heard a snippet of McCain's lastest rally speech. He thought he was telling a funny story about his 96 year old mother, about her recent trip to Paris when a rental car company refused to let her drive because of her age. So. . . "she just went and bought a car!" Funny if one finds stories about the McCain family wealth funny in this time of GLOBAL recession. Is this what is meant by OUT OF TOUCH?

OH   October 16th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

Lieberman said McCain is on the road to victory? I sure do need a case of whatever Lieberman is drinking!

NOT IN OHIO... NOT IN 2008!!!

JUAN C AR LOS   October 16th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

VIVA,,,,,,,,,,,,,,JOSE,,,,,,,,,,,,,EL,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,PLOMERO

Arin   October 16th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

Hey Connecticut.... wake-up!!! Lose Lieberman, FAST!. He is a disgrace.

Cam   October 16th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

Joe Lieberman has absolutely raped his own political credibility with his support of McCain and his obviously idiotic statement about the changing dynamics of this race.......

FreeNLovIt   October 16th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

We tested the policies of the ELEPHANT for 8 years. The math does not add up. Joe lost his pension, retirement, job, house, healthcare and college kids.

It's time to ride a donkey through the rugged mountains. Abandon the elephant of the great plains of Africa..

Frank   October 16th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

Lieberman ... do you still have a Job? Do you even know where you stand or what the issues are? as far as I heard this morning, Joe the plumber told the public that they hav to make up their own mind about the election and he did well to say so. If he had favoured mcCain, his business would have had a hard time surving on republican clientel alone.

keeping it honest   October 16th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

I sincerely hope that Mr. Libermann is wrong. After seeing John McCain in the 3 debates I feel he is not the best choice for President.
He is immature....smile, hehehe, interupting when Senator Obama talks. Is this someone we really want making important decisions regarding our future?
I will be very scared if him and Palin get into the White House!

That One   October 16th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

Last night didn't change squat LIEberman.
He's toast my friends

Jack Jodell   October 16th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

Joe Lieberman is on the road to psychotic delusion.

Matt   October 16th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

Yeah McCain...all that "new wealth" goes in one direction, up, no matter how fervently you repeat the Reaganidiocy of trickle-down economics. It's proven to be the case. Look at the last 50 years. You might have had a shot at this thing if you were willing to adapt based on the evidence, but you've stubbornly adhered to a disproven ideology. Time for you to join the dinosaurs you people apparently think went extinct 6,000 years ago.

rin   October 16th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

liberman where has your head gone??

Ian   October 16th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

Right. Just like Palin was cleared of any wrongdoing in that report. Get real.

John Tate   October 16th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

Joe is reportedly a close relative to Keeting's son-in-law and was asked to attend the Obama rally by the McCain campaign. He's unlicensed and owes back taxes. I saw that his two-man company doesn't have a plumbing license and is being shut down in Ohio. Typical republican. Forget about regulations like licenses. Forget about paying taxes. Lies aren't lies if you can fool people into believing them.

b4change   October 16th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

With rare exception only base, loyal Republicans believe that McCain has a chance, even in Pennsylvania. Honestly, the only way the McCain/Palin ticket can win substantially anywhere right now outside of their base is if democratic voters fail to show up at the polls. We must continue to be more about blogs, and polls – we must get out the vote! (P.S. the delusions of this campaign astound me....)

John W   October 16th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

McCain is pathetic. Not surprisingly, his sad tale of Joe the plumber is wrong on almost every front. As reported in today's NY Times, Joe is not a licensed plumber and has multiple liens against him for offenses including failure to pay his taxes. Best of all, Obama would not raise Joe's taxes, but would in fact likely lower them. Obama's plan would raise taxes on individuals making over $250k, not small businesses.

With any luck, the Democrats will have 60 seats without help from Lieberman after the coming landslide. That would allow Harry Reid the freedom to tell Lieberman where to stick it.

LSC-Indy   October 16th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

of course lieberman has to make comments like this. he is trying to save face to justify his party-hopping. "We turned the corner...into Obama-Biden land!" That's right!

OBAMA 08!!!!!!

Rob indetroit   October 16th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

Leiberman ,You sir are on your way out of the party.!!! after Nov,4 your vote will no longer be needed.

UMMMM...   October 16th, 2008 4:32 pm ET

say it ain't so joe!

you sipping on the cough syrup?

mary ca   October 16th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

Too old for a good resume

Baze   October 16th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

Lieberman may have the most bleek future of any politician in Washington right now.

ONE NATION

Irma in North Carolina   October 16th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

John beings you are getting so far behind and you and Sarah cant convince the people to vote for you, maybe you should have your wife Cindy campaign for, hey people do you suppose she could help him.

John W   October 16th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

McCain is pathetic. Not surprisingly, his sad tale of Joe the plumber is wrong on almost every front. As reported in today's NY Times, Joe is not a licensed plumber and has multiple liens against him for offenses including failure to pay his taxes. Best of all, Obama would not raise Joe's taxes, but would in fact likely lower them. Obama's plan would raise taxes on individuals making over $250k, not small businesses.

With any luck, the Democrats will have 60 seats without help from Lieberman after the coming landslide. That would allow Harry Reid the freedom to tell Lieberman where to stick it.

No McCain/No Palin   October 16th, 2008 4:31 pm ET

Hey Joe

No one cares what you think, you are a traitor to the democratic party. Very soon, you'll be joining your old friend McCain at the old folks home. Your career is done, soooooo done MR. For the time being, just shut the hell up!

Ab-Corpus Christi, TX   October 16th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

Pennsylvania People had already made up their mind to vote for Obama......Sorry Senator Lieberman !!!

OBAMERICANADA   October 16th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

WHERE IS MCCAINS FLAG PIN LAST NIGTH ?
ANY BODY SAW WHERE IT?.

PAJIMO
FROM CANADA

Jack   October 16th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

The republicans have been lying to everyone else, why not themselves?

Shari, NY   October 16th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

John McCain has serious comprehension problems. He accused Biden of advocating the division of Iraq into three countries. According to Fact Check the allegation is FALSE. Biden merely supports decentralizing. The two words have different meanings.

Preco, NY   October 16th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

In his dreams!!!

Liberman is happy how McCain's campaign has turned out.

After picking Palin, Liberman disappeared, his reapperance is just to keep up appearance. Who listens to a "washed-up old guy" anyways?

Liberal Moderate in Penna   October 16th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

Keep on DREAMING Joey Boy....................the stars are not lining up for your partner in crime

Murf   October 16th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

If Senator Lieberman sincerely believes Senator McCain is on the road to victory he is in need of some type of therapy. He is delusional.

John Tate   October 16th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

"We turned the corner..." and "We are on the road to victory..." He's so dillusional he thinks he's an independent and he thinks McCain did well last night. What a loon!

John   October 16th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

Well, what's he going to say?

m c   October 16th, 2008 4:30 pm ET

Yes, McCain is on the road to victory in Pennsylvania!!!! Everyone remember the "clinging to guns and religion" comment by Obama?? The latest gaff by Murtha just puts one more nail in the coffin of Obama. You know, many people on the CNN blogs like to make fun of McCain's age. One person even said that at last night's debate, McCain looked like a corpse propped up in a casket. Better take a look at Obama. He's the one who looks like a skinny corpse!!! Tit for Tat!!!!

Common Sense   October 16th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

John obviously didn't watch the same debate that I was watching last night.

I'd feel safer with Joe the Plumber as VP over Palin.

James from Kansas City   October 16th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

McCain on the road to victory? Leiberman on something?

Adam   October 16th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

It's the return of JOEMENTUM! And it's just as ludicrous as it was in 2004!

Dan   October 16th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

But Joe is not a plumber, not a small business owner, not credible, and not anything more than a campaign plant. Is anybody buying the latest gimmick from a dying campaign?

pdixon   October 16th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

I was speechless when I first read this...what happened to Joe L. and John M.? I used to admire them, now they just look and sound foolish!

Ken, Pisgah Forest NC   October 16th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

My plumber should wish he could make a profit of $250k per year. I am sure he would be glad to pay the extra $1k in taxes that the Obama tax plan would charge him. He's doing a project for me next Wednesday, so I'll ask him. We're going green with tankless waterheaters.

I think Joe L., forever the optimist, missed the part of the debate where Obama spoke. He had a good answer for all of McCain's lies and exagerations, inlcuding the ones involving Joe the Plumber. He harped on the 'fine' that Joe would have to pay for not insuring his employees. If he had done his homework, he would have know there was no fine.

Let's face it Joe L, the public believes Obama won the debate and there is no mega event left before election day to change people's minds. Besides, for many people in 34 states, election day starts now, and once they pull the lever, there is no going back.

d Taliga   October 16th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

That correct America MacCain and bush brought you 35,000 killed and wounded as well debt of 12 trillion USD plus all USA collaps just to serve the weapon Industry and special Intress.just think if we dont pay the IRS 500 USD we get jail why this bunch of jircks stil called respected,and not in jail.What do American need more than the disaster they see in US economy to understand repubilcan brought that,and all American shall vote against them.

Melanie   October 16th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

Um, isn't Joe Lieberman a Democrat? What's up with that?
He must be living in an alternate universe, where McCain is suddenly winning...scary stuff!! Seems like someone, at some point, would start monitering these two elderly gentleman's medicine dosage.

Will from NYC   October 16th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

Lieberman, after this election is over and Hillary takes over as Senate Majority leader.... your days in the Senate are numbered. Take him out of every single democratic committee and let's see how he does next time he's up for re-election.

annonymous   October 16th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

it seems to me that insightful, reasoned comments rarely get printed here, while idiotic, moronic, and rash comments are printed.

CNN, Why do you notprint everything that reasonable people write? It is pointless having oppinions if you consistantly fail to print them.

JUAN C AR LOS   October 16th, 2008 4:29 pm ET

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Black Ivy   October 16th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

As a Black woman and former Hillary Rodham Clinton supporter, I wish McCain/Palin well. I thought McCain's debate performance was exceptionally stronger than Obama's and media outlets like CNN are BIASED.

Stop pandering to Obama!

Latino for Obama-Biden   October 16th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

LIEberman, dream on moron, dream on.

Shari, NY   October 16th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

John McCain has serious comprehension problems. He accused Biden of advocating the division of Iraq into three countries. According to Fact Check the allegation is FALSE. Biden merely supports decentralizing. The two words have different meanings.

Michael in Houston   October 16th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

McCain is going to milk the Joe the Plumber story for all it's got. Nice to see the facts being presented about "Joe". Speaking of Joe, Nice to see you again Lieberman. I think it mught be a little late coming out for McCain now. The only person I know that can make up that kind of ground that fast is that guy Bolt who runs for the Jaimaca sprint team, and even he could not catch Obama at this point.

Overseas Obama supporter   October 16th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

What are you on Lieberman? Cindy McCain's pills? Or are you just like Palin, denying and blind to the ugly truth.

Spencer/Commonwealth of Virginia   October 16th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

Two old dillusional men.

Thomas   October 16th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

Joe Lieberman ,
has turned into a yes man side kick .
“We turned the corner in the debate last night. We changed the momentum.
You did ?

Lisa   October 16th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

Dream on!!! LOL!!

AFRICAN AMERICAN VOTER   October 16th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

NOW THAT'S FUNNY....WITH THE POLLS STILL MOVING IN OBAMA'S DIRECTION.....LOL....

AN NICE SKIT FOR SATURDAY NITE LIVE.....

ScottPruden   October 16th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

I guess CNN just isn't that curious about stuff.
'Joe the Plumber', real name Samuel Joeseph Wurzelbacher, got on the national stage by ambushing Obama in front of a FoxNews camera.
His story is implausible, he is UNUSUALLY conversant with McCain campaign talking points, his appearance just perfectly coincides with the eve of McCain's make-or-break debate, his campaign seemed REALLY prepared to use him in the debate and the spin afterward, I mean almost like the whole thing was PLANNED or something, and on top of that, coincidence of all coincidences:
He shares the same name as Charles Keating's son-in-law who did prison time in the wake of the Keating 5 scandal.
Hmmmmm. Anyway, CNN WON'T POST THIS.

W O W WO W   October 16th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

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OBAMA,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,WILL

Va for Obama   October 16th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

First of all, I'm not your "friend". Second of all, REALLY!? I mean seriously, REALLY!?

virginia nielsen   October 16th, 2008 4:27 pm ET

This guy Lieberman is a party flip-flopper and you can never trust in a person like that and what he is saying about "victory on the way" seems like we don't live in the same country. He is a SNAKE!!! Good for the dems that he is McBush's friend !!!

Debbie   October 16th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

Even Palin knows McCain blew it last night.

When Palin was watching the debate, photos show her with the remote in her hand.

Tim   October 16th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

He must be talking about the State of Confusion.

Kate   October 16th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

I live in Downingtown. I don't know of one single solitary person who is voting for McCain. He's wasting his money and time in PA.

Musicpromo Ca   October 16th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

What was he watching? It is 3 for 3 for Obama on the debates and Lieberman says Mccain is on the road to victory? WOW..... That's nuts.

Maybe they are both ready for the old folks home. But really I think people are just tired of the lies.

To watch something and then see one of these jerks, get up and say something not true... is just CRAZY!

Something gotta give as the GOP never see anything as it is, They just keep saying what you want people to think happen but not telling the truth. But hey Joe, I watched all the debates and Mccain lost them all and is going to lose the white house. I can't wait until Nov 4th. I'm going to run to the polls. I am tired of the lies.. NO MORE LIES!!

Good Bye GOP!!

Joan   October 16th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

Exactly what planet is Joe Lieberman on – McCain looked and acted like an aggressive, angry man who showed more contempt on his face than respect when looking at Obama.

Obama was by far the best Presidential candidate. His relaxed demeanour and direct answers are what one needs for the next President of the U.S.A.

Darrel from Denver   October 16th, 2008 4:26 pm ET

Good luck, Senator, with this newest delusional incarnation. You will need it, clearly.

Ohio will vote for Obama   October 16th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

“We turned the corner in the debate last night. We changed the momentum. We are on the road to victory in Pennsylvania.”

You're flat out delusional, guys. But, on the bright side, McBush and Lieberman will soon have lots of time to tell each other entertaining, self-congratulatory stories.

Matt   October 16th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

wow...I think I finally know what's happened: McCain and Lieberman accidentally switched their geriatric medicines in the Senate locker room and they're both all kinds of smuckered! Quick, someone call Physician Smurf and tell him Papa Smurf is losing the election because he's acting all crazy!

JB   October 16th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

What planet are they living on?

Fay   October 16th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

If "winning" means everyone else saying that your opponent won then yeah, McCain won. LOL. Give me a break!

GRANDMA   October 16th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

McBush thinks american are only the 5% rich, in that case he is right Obama will rase tax on them.
Who is American is 95% of us that Obama cut the tax on .
We want to see how much your wife paying tax?
Obama is for Joe and me and 95% of American. McBush is for 5% the rich and yes we want to be rich so we can pay tax this is what make the America , America not just 5% rich to be richer and make decision for us 95%

maxine   October 16th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

If you looked on the face of Cindy McCain, today at the rally in Pa. you could see that the only corner John McCain turned was going down the wrong road.

Common Sense   October 16th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

McCain:
"We don't want to spread the wealth around. We want to hoard it like selfish, heartless prigs, we want self-serving, me-first, country-second attitudes to reign supreme. We don't want the country coming after our SEVEN house that we inherited by marriage, we don't want to provide healthcare for the poor because it might cost us one of our multiple cars, we don't want to be taxed on the handouts that corporate CEOs give us to keep their dirty deals legal.
No, we don't want to spread the wealth – we're all better of if I keep all the wealth and peddle some "good luck" American Dream/Culture Wars story to you as you struggle to pay for gas, food and electricity this winter!"

McCain/Bush Extreme-Right Economics? FAIL!

Trysh, Los Angeles   October 16th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

Spoken like a man knows that McCain being white will trump the good ideas, temperment and ability of Barack Obama.

thomas   October 16th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

Those who steal from the poor will find they have nothing.

Proud to be American   October 16th, 2008 4:25 pm ET

If it was not so sad it will actually be funny .... else, like Obama stated lets not go overboard Obama supporters as the Rethugs may have a rabbit to pull out of their hats.... look the polls states Obama should win but I do not trust the Republicans .... be viligent with your vote and do the darn thing! Do not let them turn you away your vote counts..... Lets kick the Rethugs out of the office!

Obama and Biden 2008!

cjp123   October 16th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

Amazing how McCain continues to lie. Unless Joe the Plummer makes more than $250k a year, his taxes wont' go up–and remember that Obama only wants to rescind tax cuts that Bush gave to his wealth cronies. Amazing how so many "conservative" Americans want roads, public schools, tax breaks for churches, strong military, etc. but don't want to pay for it. We pay lower taxes than virtually all industrialized nations, and it shows in our huge deficit. Just imagine if all americans paid $5 more a year in taxes, we'd have about a billion extra dollars.

Jeanette, DC   October 16th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

Twiddle Dee Dee and Twiddle Dee Dumb.

Tick tock already I'm ready to vote for Obama and Biden.

wakeupamerica   October 16th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

Yet another Aricept moment! Two peas in a pod.

sam   October 16th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

Maybe it's just the camera angles, but does anyone besides me see nothing but white people at McCain/Palin rallies?

Erik   October 16th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

This repetitive "Joe the Plumber" thing is just weird. McCain presents as increasingly deranged.

ez   October 16th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

Early voting is the way to go.

Registered Republican "voted" Obama/Biden 08

doubtful   October 16th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

don't we already pay taxes that are given to other people?

you can call it redistribution of weath... socialism... marksism... whatever.

Is it fair that a CEO takes home 400 Million dollars? Isn't that the Grossest display of redistribution of wealth anyone has ever seen?

Could we please talk about that?

I would personally be happy to pay 5% more in taxes ... I would bake a gosh darned cake and put lipstick on my dog ... If I only knew that someone was going to do something about Oil companies with record profits and $400M per year CEO compensations.

Seriously!

Brian   October 16th, 2008 4:24 pm ET

Hahahahahah! Are... you... kidding me?! What a couple of jokers.

Leiberman, you've hitched your wagon to another loser. Connecticut... I cannot, for the life of me, figure out why you didn't dump this jackal when you had the chance in 2006.

tom   October 16th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

turning a corner down a dead end road--mccain is so out of touch and the polls show obama ahead by up to 10 points but is probably much higher because polls are taken by calling landlines and most young people and the people that will vote obama are not home they have cell phones and are busy working there back side off trying to stay above water... we the working people taht will vote obama are not like mccains supporters rich and retired and by our home phone all day

Greg in Mpls   October 16th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

So is Liberman going to infuse McCain's run with some "Joementum"?

Or is McCain just trying to surround himself with anyone named "Joe" these days.

Jeanette, DC   October 16th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

The only corner that was turned in the debate last night was the one for John and his fruitcake Sarah to go home.

John and Joe Liberman are two old farts who couldn't lead us out of a baseball dugout, much less a financial crisis.

I don't like John because he's always pretending he knows me. He doesn't and he doesn't have a clue about most Americans.

Last night he mentioned D.C. schools. D.C. does not have a vote in Congress, so the residents are used like guinea pigs, and they're voting for Barack Obama. The next time you want to talk about education, talk about education in your own state, and leave D.C. alone.

John is a liar, and liars should be banned from our White House. We had George W. Bush for 8 years, and we don't need his buddy John McSame/McBush.

jfs Memhis, Tn   October 16th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

Believe NOBODY............Republican, Democrat, nor Independent cares what Lieberman thinks..................except for John McCain. Sort of like an old Grumpy Guy Supprt Group. The only winning that will come of this ....will be the candidate that will takes Lieberman's Senate Seat by a landslide !!!

Debby   October 16th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

Yep double digit leadt from CBS, NYT, Quinniepiac, and CNN out of 500 probably mostly Dem. voters. LOL

Mickie in PA   October 16th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

I don't know what corner Lieberman is looking at, but I believe McCain has definitely gone around the "bend". Factcheck and other independent sites have already dispelled his claims that taxes would go up more under Sen. Obama's plan (even for Joe the Plumber) and numerous times McCain repeats the lie that Sen. Obama voted to tax people making $42,000. He knows it's a lie and yet he has nothing else to offer. That is not someone honorable to me. More people would lose health care under McCain and he would tax health benefits besides. The taxpayer will get stuck with the bill for his bail out of mortgages and the banks would get away scott free. I hope most Americans who think for themselves will at least look into these lies by McCain.

gl   October 16th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

So, they have no issues so Joe the Plumber will McCain new talk for the week.

Accountant Guy   October 16th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

LOL, at first this was hilarious, but now I am starting to feel bad for McBush. I can't even make fun of him anymore because it is just sad now!! I wonder if CNN will report how "Joe the Plumber" is related to Keating and how the guy doesn't even have a plumbing license. This is sad that this is McBush last death rattle!!

Obama/Biden '08

D. McMillan   October 16th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

Wishful thinking! It ain't going to happen. It's just not McCain's time and unfortunately he missed his time. "HE" SHOULD HAVE RUN 4 YEARS AGO!!

Hpotterfan77 in CT   October 16th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

I am ashamed that this man is from my state...what a sad man he has become...

C-Lo in Texas, Obama 08   October 16th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

Lieberman should be called Liarman, NO ONE CARES WHAT HE THINKS!!!!!!!!

Jean2   October 16th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

Joe Liberman should distance himself from the side show.

AZVoter   October 16th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

This is the only strategy they have left: "We turned the corner, we're winning."

They'll say it over and over, and hope people buy it.

Clinton Supporter for Obama   October 16th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

What road to victory???? Did they not see the polls? Liberman is just as old and delusional as McCain. Two losers supporting each other.

Obama/Biden 08!!

tulsa   October 16th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

“He wanted to spread his wealth around. What does that mean? He wants the government to take Joe’s money and give it to somebody else, “McCain said as the crowd booed.
And did McCain tell them to stop booing?
NOT.
Remember that 700BILLION you voted for? Who's money is that John, Where's that going?
And your buyout for bad mortgages,,,,, Who's money is that? Who is that going to?

Shirley-Ohio   October 16th, 2008 4:22 pm ET

Did Leiberman realize that McCain still had Palin as his running mate. The American people is not that stupid to put that unqualified woman in the spot of VP. She energized the base, which she was brought there for. She was used. She was a cheerleader just to get the base, that sad on McCain's behalf.

Eugene   October 16th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

And Bush is on the road to peace in the Middle East.

gl   October 16th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

Joe the plumber still – It is not about Joe the plumber. It's these economy stupid!. Joe the plumber is host and don't even have a plumber license. Thank you Chris two dillusional old men with old dreams and no new Ideas!

Laszlo in L.A.   October 16th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

I don't know where McCain or his supporters learned to read a map, but only road he's on is headed for a cliff.

John in Ohio   October 16th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

Boy, there's a sure sign that McCain is utterly doomed to lose.

will   October 16th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

if theres one guy that knows about winning a presidential election....its joe lieberman.

have fun on your january vaca john.

Ross in MD   October 16th, 2008 4:21 pm ET

How would Lieberman know what the road to victory looks like?

Ron from Baltimore   October 16th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

Our two guardians of the future, John Maverick McCain and Joseph Turncoat Liebermann, the men the whole nation has learned to take with a grain of salt, out their pouring even more salt one the Republican campaign's chances.

Joe, you need to leave John alone for a few weeks. Call him after hours if you want, but he will do better if you don't.

John, time to do some reputation re-building. Time to dig yourself out of the holes you dug last night and the past few weeks. We don't need a sore-loser gadfly running around Washington, certainly not two of them in you and Liebermann. You need to distance yourself not from Bush so much as from Palin and the crux of your campaign staff. Or you may not even have Liebermann to game with anymore.

I guess you owe your supporters at least an explanation, an apology, but don't waste any more their time and money-as you say, they are great people, and they have things to do other than try to restart a car that is simply out of gas.

Charles   October 16th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

What race and what debate has Leiberman been watching. Obama has Virginia leaning towards him and he is either close or up in the polls in other so called Republican states. That shows that Leiberman is out of touch just like McCain and Palin. Also how can McCain say he is not Bush when he voted with him over 90 percent of the time.

CShaw   October 16th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

No Mccain is on the road to a convalescent home.....

H Jay From NYC   October 16th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

Bartender please stop serving Joe Lieberman alcoholic beverages

Craig a Texas Democrat   October 16th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

Crazy old man i guess no one read how Joe the plumber wont get a tax increase.

vet for obama   October 16th, 2008 4:20 pm ET

Joe L. the Republican ought to be kicked out of any independent caucus position after this election-go home and pout Joe, you backed the wrong horsie 'twould seem- :)

Tony   October 16th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

TOUNGES ARE BEGINNING TO WAG. TURNS OUT GOOD 'OLE "JOETHE PLUMBER" WAS NOTHING MORE THAN A REPUBLICAN PLANT!

LAME JOHN, VERY, VERY LAME! SAY IT AIN'T SO JOE!
—————————————————————–

McCain did Joe the Plumber no favors.
Thu Oct 16, 2:27 PM ET

You knew it would happen. Joe the Plumber's 15 minutes of fame in last night's debate have turned into a round of public humiliation for the wannabe business owner. The Toledo Blade is reporting that Joe has no plumber's license.

To make matters worse, the Blade also found that the Ohio Department of Taxation placed a lien against Joe because $1,183 in personal property taxes had not been paid. To pile on, the paper disclosed, based on divorce records, Joe's 2006 income — $40,000, hardly enough to qualify for the tax hike he's so concerned about.

patnyc   October 16th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

Lieberman is as delusional as McCain..they both clearly need a nap, and one quickly, if they think last night's debate turned the corner for McCain! LOL!

Bring America Back!   October 16th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

Joe "Lie"berman is a traitor just like Napoleon. He will go no where after the 4th of November. Maybe he can move back to the separatist state of Alaska along with Palin...

gl   October 16th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

John McCain and Joe Lieberman is just too too old and we need youth running this country. Just look at the two of them. I know Joe Lieberman will be someone on McCain cabin and that is not a good thing. Two old fools with all story and old ideas! Listen McCain you will you get Pennsylvania so please take you camp and more on.

Steve   October 16th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

Either Lieberman is a pathological liar, or he is as clueless as McCain. When Sarah Palin leaves the campaign next week due to "personal reasons" Lieberman will be the perfect running mate for McCain. The two of then can continue to deny hitting the political iceberg as they stand in the icy water on the deck of their campaign ship, as it slips out of sight. The only momentum that changed last night was the momentum of McCain's campaign as it sinks into oblivion.

John in VA   October 16th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

You are a delusional man, Lieberman. I can, however, take solace in the fact you'll be out of there in 2012 for turning your back on your state. Traitor!

no way   October 16th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

Lieberman must be delusional.

Deb N Texas   October 16th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

The only road McCain and Lieberman is on is on the road to Arizona and Connecticut. As far a Lieberman, I hope the people in Connecticut are not stupid enough to vote for him ever again.

Linda32   October 16th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Lieberman is suppose to be believable???? In what universe? Lieberman, McCain, & Palin are on the path to defeat. Get use to it.

George in Indianapolis   October 16th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Surely he is talking about the shuffleboard or Bocci Ball tounament when he speaks of victory.

obamacrat   October 16th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

If McCain were to win we're all going to need a good plumber because we are going to be in deep...........

M. Bryan   October 16th, 2008 4:17 pm ET

Just keep digging that hole and staying in that rut, Sen. McCain.
You're doing a "heckuva" job on yourself, Sen Lieberman notwithstanding. Haven't you learned anything from George W.?

Abby   October 16th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

You all said that on Monday, Mr. LIEberman. Just because you said it, doesn’t make it true. McCain just put all his eggs in the Joe the Plumber basket and it was just discovered that Joe is not a licensed or registered plumber and he doesn’t even come close to earning 250k or buying a business for that amount and he owes back taxes. It’s over!

Obama 08 with honesty and integrity!

Jenny   October 16th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

So McMoneybags you want to know what "spreading the wealth around" means. Let me tell you. It means instead of billionaires like you and your wife pocketing all the money, the workers get to share in the profits. it means people like you and your wife start paying your fair share. You know, like cell phone towers.

Tony   October 16th, 2008 4:16 pm ET

HEY JOHN!

CAN YOU SAY DESPERATE??????????

IT WILL BE OVER SOON JOHNNY! BETTER START PRACTICING!

"PRESIDENT OBAMA AND VICE-PRESIDENT BIDEN!"

C A   October 16th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

Lieberman you are a joke. The only corner McCain turned last night was the last curve he will take heading back home to Arizona for a long retirement. Please join him Lieberman and go away.

Unshrub   October 16th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

No wonder he is supporting McCain, he doesn't have a clue about reality. Both of these guys need to retire, between the two of them they don't make a full deck.

Ryan Cincinnati   October 16th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

Two old Washington fools!

Chris   October 16th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

LOL...two dillusional old men

Tim   October 16th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

Say it ain't so Joe???

MCCAIN ALLY ACCUSED OF 'WAR PROFITEERING'

A company that ships oil into Iraq for use by American forces there "appears to have engaged in a reprehensible form of war profiteering," according to a letter by Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Cal., Chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. The company, International Oil Trading Limited, is run by Florida-based businessman Harry Sargeant, a top fundraiser for the presidential campaign of Senator John McCain.

tigerakabj   October 16th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

Lieberman, you know you're wrong.

In fact I'm surprised you want to hang with McCain after he didn't pick you. All that sucking up for nothing.

Oh well. You're out in January. See ya, wouldn't wanna be ya.

Obama/Biden 2008/2012.

JIM HAWK   October 16th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

everytime you and palin come into PA you leave a bad odor..just
move on you can not win here...

Tony   October 16th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

What planet does Lieberman live on.

Someone wake that old fool up!

Lee - TX   October 16th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

This sounds vaugely familiar...kinda like turning the corner....IN IRAQ! Please, stop lying and accept truth, Joe. You've put all your eggs into McCain's basket, he chose to rely on Palin and a dishonorable campaign, and now you all look like fools.

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