October 18th, 2008
07:00 PM ET
6 years ago

Who has campaigned more in the 'real Virginia'?

(CNN) – McCain adviser Nancy Pfotenhauer made a splash Saturday by drawing a line between northern Virginia and “real Virginia,” which she said is the “part of the state that is more Southern in nature,” a comment that may not sit well with the many residents of the commonwealth residing north of Frederickburg.

Using Pfotenhauer’s definition, however, Barack Obama and his running mate Joe Biden have out-campaigned their Republican rivals by a significant margin in “real Virginia.”

Obama has made nine campaign stops in central, southwest and southeast Virginia: in Martinsville, Lynchburg, Chester, Chesapeake, Fredericksburg, Lebanon, Norfolk, Roanoke and Newport News. Biden has made two: Castlewood and Fredericksburg.

By contrast, McCain and his running mate Sarah Palin have only ventured out of northern Virginia twice. On Monday, the pair held a joint rally in Virginia Beach, and Palin then continued on to a campaign stop in Richmond.

McCain’s rally Saturday was in the northern Virginia town of Woodbridge, home to thousands of Virginians who commute up to Washington, D.C. every day on I-95.


Filed under: Candidate Barack Obama • John McCain
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  1. Polly

    If we couldn't see the color or appearance of these two men, who then would people choose to vote for? I believe many are voting for Obama because they want to "make history" and support a black man, but it should be because of his character not color. I tend to question his character, however Senator McCain has lived his life supporting this country and I think he deserves to be President. I think his experiences have more than prepared him for it. I think Senator Obama is trying to bring about a change in this country that would weaken it and it's people. It doesn't hurt people to struggle. It should encourage them to work harder. This is a land of opportunity not hand-outs. It's ok to help people socially if they need it. It's another to take advantage of social programs. I'm sick of people who won't lift a finger to help themselves. They surely won't ever fight for their country will they?

    October 18, 2008 08:16 pm at 8:16 pm |
  2. IndyVoter

    Real Virginia? WTH is that? That is just like Sarah Palin's comments about the "best" and pro-America parts of America are the small-towns...Let me say that as an Army Veteran, former federal employee, former teacher (government) and tax-payer citizen of a large metropolitan area, I am repulsed by these comments that suggest that somehow we are not REAL Americans or that we are not pro-Americans or that somehow people who live in small towns are better than those in big cities. America deserves so much better than this...I am proud to cast my vote for Obama/Biden on November 4th to say NO to this type of divisive and toxic mentality.

    October 18, 2008 08:16 pm at 8:16 pm |
  3. vsheehan

    I lived in Northern VA for ten years. I only moved recently because of housing costs; I loved that VA. But it's obvious Nancy Pfotenhauer has no clue what she is talking about. Most of my Friends, co workers, neighbors were Republicans at heart. I was a lone Liberal in a sea of red all the way up till the day I left.

    October 18, 2008 08:17 pm at 8:17 pm |
  4. REAL VIRGINIAN

    The southern parts of Virginia are not SOUTHERN at all. It is apparent that she has never been to the Tidewater area. I was born and raised in Newport News, VA. and there are plenty of REAL VIRGINIANS here that support Obama.

    Statements like these really show you what McCain's campain is made up of; a bunch of ignorant and predjudice women. First Palin makes the "real parts of America" comment and now this. I guess real America/Virginians to them are redneck, gun totting, beer drinking Billy jo six packs. How sad. Profiling and stereotyping coming from Palin and Pfotenhauer. I think Obama sounds more American then either of those surnames.

    A Real Virginian

    October 18, 2008 08:18 pm at 8:18 pm |
  5. Fromer Republican

    Yeah, that's the way to win our hearts and minds: create yet more divisiveness. What is it with these guys? The "real" Virginia? The "pro-American" parts of the US? The we're for Joe Sixpack, like Obama/Biden aren't? The McCain campaign spends all their time trying to carve society into exploitable splinters, instigating hate and manufacturing schisms to their advantage, and doofus right wing lemmings jump right on the Smear-talk Express. Don't be a doofus – vote for a future, vote Democrat.

    October 18, 2008 08:18 pm at 8:18 pm |
  6. Dawn

    Can anyone tell me why the Mcsame/Painful campaign is cutting this country into those who are pro america and those that are anti america. Now there is a real Virginia and a part that is not so real. I am disgusted by this pair. Their tactics are detestable and Americans need to stand up and say "NOT THIS TIME!!"

    October 18, 2008 08:18 pm at 8:18 pm |
  7. Maria

    Will the real John McCain please stend!

    October 18, 2008 08:20 pm at 8:20 pm |
  8. Tayo, NY

    That is McCain and his campaign with potlitics of division. Americans will not supports his policy of devision.
    We are tired of divided America.

    We remains one America!

    One indivisible Nation under God!!

    Period.

    October 18, 2008 08:21 pm at 8:21 pm |
  9. Mary

    Did anyone notice all the Obama as a socialist story blogs are closed for comment. CNN must be terrified by the 's' word because it is really resonating with people who get this. The fact is $250,000 sounds rich to most but in this tax bracket people are paying 46% including state. Quite frankly, they already pay their fair share. Obama is talking socialism and people need to get it, that it doesn't matter if the goverment gives you a tax break if you lose your job. It won't help much if you are out of work. People in his target crosshairs are all those employed by anyone affected by the increase ie: people who work in the service business, people working for small businesses on a cash register, waitresses and hotel help because all of these people will be losing jobs once Obama's socialist system goes into place. The fact that cnn will not let us comment on it proves the 's' word is the real deal. I can hear their knees shaking! Watch how soon this comment is removed from the board!

    October 18, 2008 08:21 pm at 8:21 pm |
  10. BC

    'real Virginia', 'real Americans' – these pathetic losers consider the only 'real' people to be the ones who agree with their twisted and extreme ideas. I have a news flash for them – when they lose this election, it will indeed be 'real' Americans who have voted against them – in 'real' Virginia, 'real' Ohio, etc, etc, etc, etc….

    October 18, 2008 08:22 pm at 8:22 pm |
  11. Chris

    Maybe the one that is bothered by "sharing the wealth...because its neighborly" – excuse me? If you want to donate your weath...go ahead...if you want the government to control it....move somewhere where socialism is accepted (I know...Obama isn't pure socialism...but his ideas are scarey...don't punish those who have reached the American dream...I'm not one of them....but...omg....I want to be one day)

    October 18, 2008 08:22 pm at 8:22 pm |
  12. Tom, KS

    I really wish McCain would stop trying to divide the country up into "Good" and "Bad" parts. Being Divisiveness is not a quality I would like in my president.

    October 18, 2008 08:22 pm at 8:22 pm |
  13. Lady_Di

    But were they in the pro-America parts of the real Virginia??? This campaign is such a joke. No strategy, just tactics, talking points, smoke and mirrors.

    October 18, 2008 08:23 pm at 8:23 pm |
  14. Bulldog

    Pfotenhauer is representative the rest of the fraudulent and disgusting McCain staff. Just like Sarah Palin saying in a town in North Carolina that it was one of the parts of America that are "Pro-American". In other words, Palin was saying that there are areas within America that are "Anti-America". Pfotenhauer and Palin are two of the same, mean spirited people who love to spread hate and lies so that people eventually turn on one another.

    October 18, 2008 08:23 pm at 8:23 pm |
  15. judy mccracken

    My question is WHY the American people cannot see the Governor of Alaska answer questions in a media forum???? As VP or God forbid as President she will have to sooner or later respond to questions that have not been rehearsed. WHAT ARE THEY AFRAID OF????? I think the American people have the right to see, as the McCain forces testify day after day, that Gov Palin is qualified to run the most powerful country in the world.....if she can't or won't talk to our own media what will she do in a crisis.......like Bush, have someone else do her thinking for her. GOOD LUCK AMERICA.......

    October 18, 2008 08:24 pm at 8:24 pm |
  16. Raymond

    Typical McCain-Palin Campaign comment. More divisive BS. I swear they are the worse political ticket ever. I can't wait for November 5th to come. America should hand the Republican Party its worst setback ever. And it is well deserved.

    October 18, 2008 08:24 pm at 8:24 pm |
  17. mary, colorado springs co

    McCain and Palen are slowing down, or else they think they have Virginia locked up. Virginia is fortunate they won't have to listen to either of them with their lies, innuendos and just plain vicious talk about Obama and his campaign. They are getting desperate and increasing their unfounded lies and innuendos and anything else they can throw in. They are pathetic.....how do they live with themselves and sleep nights? Honesty, decency and respect are definitely not their strong points. After 04 Nov, we won't have to listen to such insane drivel. With the filth they spout, I hope they have a good mouthwash.

    OBAMA/BIDEN 2008/2012

    October 18, 2008 08:24 pm at 8:24 pm |
  18. Vik

    What's up with the "County First" signs at McCain rallies? The rest of us who are voting for Obama are thinking of county first, that's why we're voting for our guy. We're all loyal citizens here, stop pretending like we're somehow not true Americans, because we don't believe in your BS.

    October 18, 2008 08:25 pm at 8:25 pm |
  19. alpha_nu_916

    it would benefit sen. mccain to reign in his surrogates and advisors – the repugs devisive politics, while rallying the base, has given sen. obama a significant lead among independents.
    the bile coming from nancy pfotenhauer regarding northern virginian's will not help sen. mccain cut into sen. obama's 10 point lead in VA. especially now that a majority of virginians no longer live in the "real virginia."

    if sen. mccain tried put forth messages of hope, instead those grounded in fear and loathing, he might draw crowds of 100,000 and 75,000 like sen. obama did in MO instead of 4,000 and 3,000 he drew today in NC and VA.

    October 18, 2008 08:25 pm at 8:25 pm |
  20. ben

    what an idiot

    October 18, 2008 08:25 pm at 8:25 pm |
  21. Camden from mt

    John Mccains campaigning skills lack compared to obamas, its kind of amusing watching more and more states go blue on the electoral map. John Mccains dream of becoming president slowly slipping away.

    Obama/Biden 08

    October 18, 2008 08:25 pm at 8:25 pm |
  22. jj

    First it's "pro-America", now it's the "real Virigina". My my my, the Republicans seem to have special ideas about the whole country. Be careful when you read their policies, folks...they seem to be using very narrow definitions.

    October 18, 2008 08:25 pm at 8:25 pm |
  23. natasha in tally

    nancy is a creep just like her boss. once again the mcsame campaign choose to divide. ready to vote monday and send nancy and the lost of them back to thier other jobs.

    Obama 08

    October 18, 2008 08:27 pm at 8:27 pm |
  24. Brian Rich

    Just like rural America being the "real America" you'll find that Obama has visited Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, North Dakota, Nevada, New Mexico and Colorado – all 2004 Bush states – more than McCain has.

    McCain thinks Americans are so closed-minded and ignorant that they'll just vote straight-ticket Republican til the end of eternity.

    Surprise, John, we care about the issues. And we're not voting for you.

    October 18, 2008 08:27 pm at 8:27 pm |
  25. Moe, NY

    The Republicans certainly know how to divide. Too bad they do not know how to bring Americans together. Hopefully America will be rid of Republicans and their campaign of hate come November.

    October 18, 2008 08:27 pm at 8:27 pm |
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