October 23, 2008
Posted: October 23rd, 2008 09:04 AM ET
Sen. John McCain has multiple events scheduled in Florida on Thursday.
Sen. John McCain has multiple events scheduled in Florida on Thursday.

(CNN) – John McCain on Thursday kicks off his "Joe the Plumber" tour to woo Florida's blue-collar vote, as Barack Obama returns to Indiana, a traditionally red state where McCain is ahead.

McCain plans events in Daytona Beach, Ormond Beach, Altamonte Springs, Orlando, Plant City and Sarasota.

Obama holds a 3 percentage point lead over McCain in Florida, 49 percent to 46 percent, according to CNN's average of Florida polls. Florida has 27 electoral votes up for grabs.

McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin's pitch to working-class voters is that their team will protect small businesses.

The Republican ticket is focusing its argument on Obama's highly publicized conversation with Ohio voter Samuel J. Wurzelbacher, since dubbed "Joe the Plumber."

Earlier this month, Wurzelbacher told Obama that he was about to buy a company that makes more than $250,000 a year and was concerned that the Democrat would tax him more.

Obama explained his tax plan in depth, saying it's better to lower taxes for Americans who make less money so that they could afford to buy from his business. His tax plan would lower taxes for people making less than $250,000 a year.

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Donald, Canton,NC   October 23rd, 2008 10:38 am ET

McCain - get a life!

I'm sick and tired of you and Palin and the "Jobe the Plumber' crap.

Let it die a peaceful death - like your campagin to nowhere.

matt in Pittsburgh   October 23rd, 2008 10:38 am ET

Socialism is a terrible concept, it has never worked
“Spreading the wealth” is a socialist concept
Obama is a socialist
You are who you hang with – Obama has hung with Bill Ayers, Rev Wright, Fr. Flagger, Tony Rezko
If you want Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid to be able to run wild with our money – Vote Obama
If you want a tax and spend far far left liberal – Vote Obama
If you want your freedom of speech taken away – Vote Obama
If you want your right to self defense taken away – Vote Obama
If you want ACORN running our county – Vote Obama
If you ALL want a tax increase – Vote Obama
If you want the military totally gutted – Vote Obama
If you want our country run based on what Europe thinks – Vote Obama
If you want to face a world crisis within the first 6 months (according to Joe Biden – Vote Obama
If you want to see Israel blown off the world map – Vote Obama
If you got a brain on your shoulder and can think for yourself – Vote McCain

So all you liberals don’t forget to get out and vote early and vote often on Nov. 5.

Catholic-mom-4-OBAMA   October 23rd, 2008 10:38 am ET

PLEASE.........enough with the "Joe the Plumber"!

1. Joe IS not a plumber, he is an UNemployed handy man.

2. "Joe" was NOT buying a business that he had been working at for 15 years, that was another GOP........LIE!

Keith Olbermann on his show "Countdown" (MSNBC) played the ENTIRE clip of "Joe" talking to Sen. Obama. I am SO glad it was filmed!

The so-called-plumber, said he wanted to buy the business he had been working at for 15 years. WHICH WAS/IS A LIE.

Again, McCain has nothing to say, nothing to offer America but more lies, more attacks, more hate.

PLEASE GET OUT AND VOTE!

KLK   October 23rd, 2008 10:38 am ET

I almost feel sorry for the old guy.

eds   October 23rd, 2008 10:38 am ET

Gettin sick of the Joe the Plumber mythology here.

Small businesses will do WAY better under Obama than Bush, oops McCain.
BIG businesses, now that is another story. . .

Hope people will educate themselves before voting on the truth behind all this guy's fabrications.

Trysh in Los Angeles   October 23rd, 2008 10:38 am ET

Joe the Unlicensed Handyman who only earns $40K and doesn't pay his taxes, but donated $100 to McCain's campaign, but presented himself to Obama and the media as UNDECIDED?

Joe is not a plant, but he is a phony. He is a man who is openly willing to vote against his own best interest....hmmm....I wonder why.

Charles of Georgia   October 23rd, 2008 10:38 am ET

If I'm joe the plumber, I definitely should demand some compensation from GOP. Can you image how much damage he can do to GOP if he suddently announces that he is supporting Obama? He should take advantage of this moment.

RDS   October 23rd, 2008 10:38 am ET

They have a problem with running something into the ground. It may have been funny and effective at first but people are getting sick of Joe the Plumber now. Sorry Mac he isn't going to save your campaign no matter how much you and Hannity and Rush try to make him.

Paul, FL-TLH   October 23rd, 2008 10:37 am ET

He's not a plumber, and there's a lien on his house due to non-payment of taxes.

Why do people still believe this guy is anything but a plant?!?

– Paul the Deeply Irritated

jjv   October 23rd, 2008 10:37 am ET

Storm being the operative word, right? He needs to slow down and start articulating real policy positions, not behaivng like a rabid attack dog on prescription pills. besides this Joe the plumber line is as old as his wrinkled skin.
Obama, by contrast, looks presidential, refined and thoughtful.

rm   October 23rd, 2008 10:37 am ET

Yesterday a news station aired the entire conversation between Obama and Fake Joe the Plumber in Ohio. Obama's explanation was clear and made sooooo much since to me.(please google it and see for yourself) Anyone who makes over $250,000 can be concerned about being taxed a little more(3% more of whatever you make over $250,000). But anyone who makes less than that and votes for McCain, is not just drinking McCain's kool-aid, but is possibly adding some hard liquor in it.

Rob   October 23rd, 2008 10:37 am ET

...As Biden storms through on the "Gird My Loins" tour (aka "The Guy That Picked Me Is So Not Ready That We're Gonna Be Attacked").

Pretty good when the pick for #2 is going around telling everyone how inexperienced the #1 is.

Remember, as Biden himself said, a vote for Obama is a vote for a major attack against America. Hey, maybe Barry can get all his ACORN buddies to round up the dead people they got to vote to help defend the country?

Dawn   October 23rd, 2008 10:37 am ET

This is all they got? Joe the Plumber? What about the little people who has lost jobs, who can't get jobs because places are closing up. You look at Bush economic plans and you give tax deduction to the fat cats and expect it to trickle down to us the poor...Think again...President Clinton did the same that Sen Obama wants to do... it will take a while, but getting through the Bush Administration garbage...I trust in Obama/Biden to get this Country back on track!!!

Jim   October 23rd, 2008 10:37 am ET

Joe the Plumber: A plumber is the only guy I know who can take a leak....
....and fix it also!"

Maybe Mcshame will have all his problems fixed by Joe

Mr. X   October 23rd, 2008 10:37 am ET

Talk about beating a dead horse. Just make Joe The Plumber host SNL already.

Mark   October 23rd, 2008 10:36 am ET

I thought they flushed him already

Michael   October 23rd, 2008 10:36 am ET

Can someone please educate Sarah Palin that Castro is no longer the Cuba President. She has beaten the record of ignorance!

Lynda Ridgefield, CT.   October 23rd, 2008 10:36 am ET

Desperate times, call for desperate measures....and that's just about all the repubs have left.

All the GOP can do at this time, is lie, and attack...they have their hands full, with M. Backman, from Minnesota and the other, Hayes, from, N.C., who are becoming experts in HOOF AND MOUTH DISEASE!!!

Bigbubba   October 23rd, 2008 10:35 am ET

The Redneck Republican Circus is going to Florida.

You all can look forward to:
McCain the senile
Joe the plumber and if she can make it, playing the clown-
Palin the incredibly dim

McCain will appear younger in Florida anyway

Mark G   October 23rd, 2008 10:35 am ET

Keep using Joe the plumber and the rest of America will vote for someone looking out for the other "non-pro" Americans. Keep using your divisive tactics and smearing and you will be eating a lot of crow on November 4th.

Anonymous   October 23rd, 2008 10:35 am ET

McCain's time and money is running out-I can't wait to see the first Black President take office in January! McCain- concede now and stop waisting your money on your losing campaign!! Start pulling out altogether like you did in Michigan! I'm not Barack Obama and I approve this message!

Joe   October 23rd, 2008 10:35 am ET

PS: What happened to the HUGE story about 600,000 democrats registering to vote in Ohio??? Never mind...probably just another ACORN issue eh? But you sure want to make sure that the only Republican ACORN clown hit the front page.

CNN is as biased as I am. Too bad so many people are ignorant of the facts nor take the time to do some research.

PS: TO SENATOR OBAMA: If you think life begins AFTER the first trimester, can you PLEASE explain that heartbeat heard RIGHT after conception??? You're a little confusing...you say you are a believer, yet I just don't see any fruit...just maybe the good ole' Rev Wright only taught/preached bad fruit??

ok...   October 23rd, 2008 10:35 am ET

Susie,

Are you kidding me? You aren't voting for BO 'cause you are buying this socialist crap that Mccain is spouting.

And you want Hillary in 2012?

You do realize that Obama's tax plans are tantamount to Bill's, right?

Ringo   October 23rd, 2008 10:34 am ET

McCain keeps on giving the example of JFK being tested by the Russians – sitting in the cockpit with a target. What he doesn't mention is: Was JFK able to stare-down the Russians? Then why shouldn't Obama do the same? I agree he gave a lot to America. But who said being a good soldier makes one good in making wise political decisions – be they on foreign policy or economy? This story of "Joe the plumber", "spreading the wealth around" is stale. And as far as I know, he does not have any presidential experience last time I checked!!! All presidents learn on the job – others perform woefully bad like his buddy George W. Bush. Judgement? It shows from his choice of Vice-President! If elected, our enemies will pray day and night for McCain to get out of the scene, and the American global comedy will start. We shall be the laughing stock of the world!!!

Tashwanda   October 23rd, 2008 10:34 am ET

Is this the view?

bill   October 23rd, 2008 10:34 am ET

Just want to take the opportuniy to make sure everyone reads the entire Joe Biden statement ending with "I probabaly shouldnt have said all this because I see the press is here". Forget the rediculous crated international crisis part for a moment.

This is not a mistake folks, but the truth. He mentions that polls will be down in short term and decisions will make people go whoa, I didnt approve of that. He also says directly that they will not be popular, for popular decisions are rarely sound.

I am trying not to sound alarmist, but this is alarming. Why do polls go down? Because a president breaks his promises and Governs dead left in a right center country. It is clear to me, this is what he speaks to. THEY KNOW BETTER THAN WE DO. This should scare the heck out of us all.

So if he needs to go against anything he had to say to get votes. If when he:

Raises taxes.
Implements Universal Health Care.
Does not support or defend Isreal.
Implement the fairness doctrine- thus muzzling opposition voices.
Explodes entitlement and redirect wealth to hand outs.
Begin immediate troop withdrawel from IRAQ.

It will be against a populist backlash of the majority of the American people, but just accept it because this brilliant 47 year old President knows whats best.

Still under the illusion that Barack will lean to the center, think again, You are not supporting Bush by keeping this form happening, you are defending America.

JB, CA   October 23rd, 2008 10:34 am ET

Tell me about McCain's dealings with Rafaello Follieri, the convicted con man with whom McCain spent his 70th birthday...

More shady financial dealings?

Please post CNN, you won't post this everytime I bring it up and it's definitely relevant!

nerakami   October 23rd, 2008 10:34 am ET

Dear Senator McCain,

I guess no one told you... Joe the Plumber is an ILLUSION !!
Joe's story is about the American dream... where Joe IS DREAMING of a better day.... now he just needs to pay his back taxes... and by the way, Obama's tax plans would help Joe realizing his dream a lot faster than yours...

Get the facts McCain... get the facts.

S.B. Stein E.B. NJ   October 23rd, 2008 10:34 am ET

Isn't this whole "Joe the plumber" thing being blown out of proportion? I think that most media outlets noted that this plumber and the company he was thinking of taking over still won't make anywhere near the amount of money to get a tax increase under Obama.

Joe Regis   October 23rd, 2008 10:34 am ET

Joe the plumber is a more like a fraud. Just checked the tax records and his employment history on the the Net.

sandi   October 23rd, 2008 10:34 am ET

How do you have the nerve to say you are for the "Joe the plumbers" of the nation....I work with a family with a special needs child plus two other children. Both parents have lost their jobs, they can not pay the rent, do not have a car and you are spending $150,00.00 for clothes for your VP and her family....! What a crock.....

Lauren the Engineer   October 23rd, 2008 10:33 am ET

I'm Lauren the Engineer.

As a technical professional, I'm concerned about competiveness and innovation policies needed to sustain America as a technological leader. The Bush administration did not fund the America Competes Act. America needs to invest in basic reasearch and education to maintain America's innovative edge. Our economy will continue to suffer without careful investment in R&D in science and technology. When our economy grinds to a halt, I guess we can all become unlicensed plumbers...

Chuck   October 23rd, 2008 10:33 am ET

Enough of the Joe the plumber rhetoric. We are going to keep bringing up this tax evader, non licensed, dilusional (going to by a $250,000 business) non entity. It only shows that the GOP campaign has nothing new to offer the country. And they certainly have nothing new to offer real working American's who pay their taxes on time, have the right cridentials, and are struggling just to keep their heads above water. No they are trying to destoy a man's reputation by telling lies, misquotes, and scaring the American public. How truly sad.

Sharon - NC   October 23rd, 2008 10:33 am ET

McCain needs to have a new speech written for him. The same old tired speech is getting old. The Joe the Plumber 'find' has run its course and appears to be a set-up. I agree with the woman with the 6 year old who would have understood what Obama was explaining to 'Joe the Plumber'. McCain and Palin just don't think any of us are smarter than a 6th grader.

Frank,MO   October 23rd, 2008 10:33 am ET

I cannot hear that anymore ... McCain will go down as one of the worst presidential candidates. It's pathetic. He is running a pure fictional campaign.

anthony   October 23rd, 2008 10:33 am ET

Joe the Plumber is not even a real plumber, and he is a tax cheat. Why is McCain making him the symbol of his campaign? Does he really want to lose?

Mike in Columbus   October 23rd, 2008 10:33 am ET

KJL,

Good stuff to know. Thank you for the post.

Truth   October 23rd, 2008 10:32 am ET

Other day someone called Palin a redneck and she replied "Thanks".
Now Mcmoron is trying to relate me with Joe the Liar and my reply is "Thanks, But no Thanks"!

Party Crasher   October 23rd, 2008 10:32 am ET

I watched that exchange between Sam and Obama. If the McBush camp really think that they can make hay out of that then someone in their management circle should be fired and sued for malpractice.

The old campaign managers are stuck in the past with outdated ideas.

The dog food is being recalled this year. Next election don't try putting a new label on it, try putting new food in the cans.

Tafari   October 23rd, 2008 10:32 am ET

Who cares about Joe The Plumber? If you are clearing 250k plus after business expenses, why should you get lowered taxes?

Billy   October 23rd, 2008 10:32 am ET

A Joe the Plumber tour? This gets more and more ridiculous.

AJ   October 23rd, 2008 10:32 am ET

Enough with Joe the Plumber already...

Nando, Florida   October 23rd, 2008 10:32 am ET

I work In Port Orange Near Ormond Bch FL About 100 People showed up to hear this old FART !!!!!!!!!! LMAO !!!!!!!!

Jim   October 23rd, 2008 10:31 am ET

Joe the plumber is right behind Mcshame due to all the Bs that he is spreading

Andy   October 23rd, 2008 10:31 am ET

You Obamabots just don't get it. Its not WHO asked the question, its about the way your mesiah answered the question in Ohio.

Don't spend your new welfare checks yet!!

nobama   October 23rd, 2008 10:31 am ET

Whoever the moron was in NY that questioned Joe the Plumber. Here are some facts.

Many Americans have a name and go by another, I don't think Tip O'Neils real name was Tip.

Joe works for a plumber as a plumber, As long as he falls under the license of the company he works for , he does not need his own license, so he is in fact a plumber

Why are his back taxes relevent? He is not running for office.

Typical of you Libs, attack the messenger, defend the violator.

Obamas policies are socialism by any definition and he was exposed by Joe the Plumber.

Smile   October 23rd, 2008 10:31 am ET

The last nail just went into the coffin of the republican party. It's all down from here. Division in the republican camp, i love it.

LM   October 23rd, 2008 10:31 am ET

To people thinking about 2008 MaCain 2012 Hillary:

This is a very risky game! You are risking America people's life and faith. It is selfish and stupid!

linda n carolina   October 23rd, 2008 10:31 am ET

Even the "Roto Rooter" guy will help this campaign!

Zagazaw   October 23rd, 2008 10:30 am ET

If Palin can spend over $150,000.00 on cloth in only one month, thats more than the average American spend on cloth in a 20 years span, No waonder they are sooo much against speading the wealth, they are selfish and want to sepend it on themself and them alone.

DB25   October 23rd, 2008 10:30 am ET

Ugh, I'm so sick of the Joe the Plumber stuff. It's not resonating with voters, so Palin and McCain just need to give it up.

Sweetie   October 23rd, 2008 10:30 am ET

I voted early for McCain/Palin

With Obama we won't have any checks and balances in place!

The Liberal Democrats, Reid, Dodd, Frank, and Pelosi that got us into this HORRIBLE Financial Mess should not be rewarded with the Puppet they have been waiting for!

With a Liberal Press we will not know what is going on until it is too late!

Use your Brian and vote for the Candidate who Loves our country and is not out to destroy it!

JACKED-UP-POLITICS, FLORIDA   October 23rd, 2008 10:30 am ET

Just look at the audiences. Look at the audiences. This tells me a whole lot without McCain having to say one word.

Sick and Tried of JOE Camel... Joe Plumber! Whatever!!!!   October 23rd, 2008 10:30 am ET

This election isn't only about Joe!!!! Let that S#!@ go please!! This election is about the millions of the rest of us who have suffered under Bush and his policies backed by John Mccain. Now he expects us to fall for that same line of crap again. Well you can fool half the people some of the time (which he seems to have done) but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. No, Nope, No thank you so take Joe the plumber and go jump down a pipe. My name is not Joe and I don't identify with Joe ands neither does an of the people I know. Joe seems like a political prop just as the Repubs VP pick. Oh and by the way......... stop calling us your friend, I don't have any friends worth 100 million dollars!!!!!

Randy   October 23rd, 2008 10:30 am ET

I just want people to realize what electing Barack Obama really means to the world. If we as a country elect Sen. Obama and his near socialistic policies to The White House, we have just handed Osama Bin Laden the biggest victory he could ever have hoped for. Bin Laden attacked this country and our way of life because they are jealous of our freedoms, they are jealous that one country can have so much wealth and so much success. Osama Bin Laden's attack was meant to be an attack on capitalism and its successes. And now America is willing to give in and surrender our future, our success, and our wealth to this man. We have already seen the President of Iran boast about the fall of capitalism and now we want to give these terrorists the victory they were seeking. I really wish people would stop and think why 80% of the world is pulling for Obama...trust me...it is not because they have America's best interest at heart. I pray that Americans will wake up and not give into this defeat, but I feel that we have just become hopeless and we are willing to do anything to appease anyone. Bin Laden's war is not against the American people, it is against our way of life, and after just 7 short years, we as a country are willing to surrender.

I know I will have to listen to all the Obama fans call me a racist or a fear mongerer....I am not doing that. No matter whom wins, they will try to attack us again, but why hand them a victory.

Karen   October 23rd, 2008 10:30 am ET

October 23rd, 2008 10:27 am ET
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The hubris of this man knows no limits. Nothing is his fault. Not the fact after 26 years in the Senate anything they did especially the last 8 years. I am sick of hearing the "SURGE" worked. For one I don't believe a thing they tell us about the famous surge and second there would have been no need for a surge if we hadn't been there or if we really did need to be there had done things right. No it was planned as well as a Frat party on a Friday afternoon. And lastly, to hell with "Joe the I am not really a plummer I am a dead beat who is unlicensed and doesn't pay what taxes I owe". McCain is repeated the "Joe the Plummer" mantra like a madman. Joe the plummer doesn't exist. The guy lied……..Can we talk about the 95% of people in the real world who don't make $250K and don't shop at Neiman's?

McCain?   October 23rd, 2008 10:30 am ET

McCain ruined poor Joe's life

thomas   October 23rd, 2008 10:29 am ET

America is a nation built on capital. All of society's systems, institutions, and laws are based upon this common maxim. If America were built around humanity, society would function and appear very different, but it's not. More than a third of the nation's wealth is owned by just one percent of the wealthiest households while the bottom 80 percent hold a mere 16 percent. The wealthiest 20 percent own the USA, they run the USA, and they pushed the USA into political and financial ruin. America is in crisis and the wealthiest Americans are the only ones with the capital to fix it. That's not socialism, it's reality.

J.C.   October 23rd, 2008 10:29 am ET

I like McCain's idea of growing the pie, not just fighting to redistributing the pie. We spent too much energy elbowing one another and missed too many opportunities.

McCarthyism is for Nazis   October 23rd, 2008 10:29 am ET

Didn't joe the plumber say he hated all of this attention? I guess McCain isn't getting the hint. Just thought I would point that out, I need to get back to my anti-american activities in my not-real-America part of the country

Wasilla MooseKilla   October 23rd, 2008 10:29 am ET

This has got to be the worst campaign in the history of horrible campaigns, bound to be studied for centuries to come.

Way to implode, John Mcain.

JB, CA   October 23rd, 2008 10:29 am ET

So, Susie, am I to believe that when it comes time to collect your Social Security check, you'll refuse it? You know, it being a socialist program and all..

DST- Australian observer   October 23rd, 2008 10:29 am ET

'Joe the plumber' ... another Conservative campaign gimmick- all gimmick no substance. Boy they're desperate.

So i think we can gather where the McCain campaign's headed: more gimmicks, and more slanderous mud slinging.

Doug   October 23rd, 2008 10:29 am ET

Hey CNN, are you not going to apologize for your correspondent, Drew Griffin, taking the National Review column out of context and twisting it to insult Sarah Palin?

Which odds are better; the odds that you will apologize, or the odds that you will post this?

Oakbrook, IL   October 23rd, 2008 10:29 am ET

Senator – save your Campaign money and retire. Game is OVER!!!!

JL   October 23rd, 2008 10:29 am ET

Ok...Joe is not a plumber...and his name is Sam. More lies from McCain is all this whole thing is.

McCain is exploiting this man (and others) for his own political gain, when they would actually gain more from Obama's plan.

McCain really doesn't care about Joe the plumber, Carina the nurse, Toni the teacher, or anyone else that is not rich and I can't believe people who are losing so much in this economy are buying his line.

Diana-New Jersey   October 23rd, 2008 10:28 am ET

Hey LIp, the story about Michelle Obama was untrue and therefore the news paper had to retract it.

the gooch   October 23rd, 2008 10:28 am ET

Yaaaaaawwwwwwnnnn – ah, sorry. Is McBush still milking this Joe the plumber thing?

New Day   October 23rd, 2008 10:28 am ET

Its amazing how McCain was able to make Obama's crystal clear explanation to "Sam/Joe the almost plumber" into a talking point by merely ignoring the facts.

Way to go John!

MLH   October 23rd, 2008 10:28 am ET

Wait – he's making his Joe the Plumber about a guy who's name ISN'T Joe, and who ISN'T a plumber, who DIDN'T make the money he claimed to and hadn't bothered to pay his taxes. Senator McCain, please show that you understand that 'Joe the Plumber' isn't Everyman. Latching on to this persona is only more evidence that you are out of touch and don't get it.

No More Joe   October 23rd, 2008 10:28 am ET

I cannot wait to hear the last of Joe the Plumber

MG Nashville   October 23rd, 2008 10:28 am ET

I just saw the latest mail piece from the McCain campaign... the one that has "Terrorists" across the front. My first response was to make another donation.

I started supporting Obama because he is a smart, honest guy with unique leadership skills. But, the republican slimeball tactics have turned me into a Yellow Dog Democrat. One would think that the good members of the Republican Party would raise their voices against this campaign to deceive the American people. Apparently, that ain't gonna happen. The entire party needs to go away.

The repubs continue to try to deceive the uninformed to win votes, and it's getting worse. I can no longer vote for ANY of them.

Ken   October 23rd, 2008 10:28 am ET

Joe the plumber is a scapegoat for the McCaine/Pailin campainge.
They attribute to Joe the comments that they wish to insiuate without being liable themselves.

wildcat   October 23rd, 2008 10:28 am ET

Tax breaks for wealthy companies does not create jobs, it creates corporate greed.

jfs Memhis, Tn   October 23rd, 2008 10:28 am ET

SOOOOO tired of Joe the Plummer . We need something different. Just like Your VP Choice you have miked this one to point of Annoyance !!!

Georgia Gal   October 23rd, 2008 10:27 am ET

Oh good grief ... enough with Joe the Plumber already.

If I were that guy I'd be telling all of them (McCain & Palin in particular) to leave my name out of it!!

Jack Jodell, Minneapolis, MN   October 23rd, 2008 10:27 am ET

"Joe the Plumber" and "John the Phony" are both frauds. One is a tax cheat and the other wants to add to our deficit by giving billionaires even more unneeded and undeserved tax cuts!

OBAMA/BIDEN '08 AND '12!!!!!

SENATUS POPOLUSQUE ROMANUS   October 23rd, 2008 10:27 am ET

Poor McCLOWN, now he is restricted to the JOE THE PLUMBER every other hour...... so much for lack of real arguments!!

proud army and navy mom   October 23rd, 2008 10:27 am ET

did anyone see the special report on cnn this morning?

Mccain says that his family never owned slaves, but his brother disagreed and went to the family reunion of his former slave family owned by Mccain's great grandfather ........or was it granddad?

Anyways, mcsenile is in denial or he could just be lying like he does all the time.

Shay   October 23rd, 2008 10:27 am ET

John how much are you paying Joe the Plumber for his help. You bought all the fancy clothes for Palin now are you shopping for Joe the Plumber to look good in ads too or just letting him wear plumber clothes.

You are pathetic. Joe is a man that is no where near a business or any intentions John. So let the man go and get a real business and then you come back and sell it to the American People.

John and Sarah Joe the Plumber act. Part 1 Part 2 and Part 3. Now is there a charge to pay for his taxes?

Rena   October 23rd, 2008 10:25 am ET

I watched Keith Obbermann show last night and saw the whole segment with this Joe guy, and trust me it is more to that segment than the one line mccain is quoting. Obama spelled out his plan to this man in plan terms that my 6 yr old could understand. Like he told him if you look back ten years ago and was under my tax cuts you would have more money than you have now, secondly I'm giving you a 50K tax credit to help with insurance for your employees, thirdly you get taxed on the 250K revenue and lastly why shouldn't I give everyone a tax break who is working hard to reach the American dream just like you. If I give it to you why not everyone else. Lastly, he told the plumber someone like myself who is making well over 250K should try to help others who are trying to get where I am. If someone gave me a break than why shouldn't I give someone else a break. Lastly, he told him depending on your revenue for your business your capital gain may even be cut and you may not pay as much tax as you think.

Obama is trying to be fair to everyone, just like he told this plumber, let's be fair to all. Besides, ya'll so called conservative are suppose to be christians. Did you all skip over the scripture that tells you to give to the poor? Oh, I forgot you guys perfer the pharisees agenda; all for myself and look at me. Well let me help you out, Jesus dispise these kind. So, you may want to take a look at your so call christian walk.

Beth   October 23rd, 2008 10:25 am ET

Senator McCain, Joe the Plumber will not help you now. I't time to go back to Arizona, it's time to send Barbie with her new wardrobe back to Alaska.
People, go out and vote now; build the Obama Bridge to the Whitehouse with your vote!!!!
God Bless

jon   October 23rd, 2008 10:25 am ET

Its funny how Sen. McCain is always saying "Sen. Obama drug Joe into this race" when its McCain who wont shup-up about it!

cal   October 23rd, 2008 10:25 am ET

Would you please shut the hell up about joe the plummer. first of all joe does not have a plummers license and second of all mcsane in your speech you said Obama was rude to joe. well you big fat liar look at there discussion it was not nasty at all as a matter of fact it was very informative.

mcstupid is trying everything he can to win, to late old geeser, your evil tatics arent working. Joe the plummer why don't you speak up or are you enjoying the publicity?

Obama/Biden

Robert in raleigh   October 23rd, 2008 10:24 am ET

I don't know any $250000. year plummers, Joe is so blind that he can't see when help is being offered.....

Lisa   October 23rd, 2008 10:24 am ET

Enough with Joe the Plumber, this is a ridiculous gimmick. John McCain talk about issues, talk about Iraq, talk about anything that does make you sound like a foolish old man.

Toni Harris   October 23rd, 2008 10:24 am ET

Florida belongs to Obama. All of you Republicans ignored us. The only reason Bush came was to party with Jeb in Tampa. They didn't care about any of us Black and Red Necks North of St. Petersburg. Republicans can be such cowards. Ever notice that Bill (what's his name?) Nelson is never seen or heard?? He doesn't even answer emails inquiring about his position on the economy.

Toni, age 72

I'm from Palins Anti- American New Jersey   October 23rd, 2008 10:24 am ET

What About Ray The Father who need help putting dinner on the table for my 4 kids? I just lost my job from a selfish CEO that you gave tax breaks to? What about me? Im not from a small town, Do I still count McCain?

Fatal Blow   October 23rd, 2008 10:24 am ET

Joe the Plumber tour, what a hoax

When will people get it..Joe the Plumber stands to benefit more under Obama's plan than McCain, unless Joe himself is not too smart

For A maverick team that says they are like the average people, let me ask the average person, when was the last time you spent $150,000 on a wardrobe?

For those calling Obama a socialist..Spell SOCIALIST..and I'm not giving you a clue either ;)
For a bonus point , tell us what Socialism means and explain why the bailout, Social Security, Medicare, funding of the Police, Military and Firefighters are not "spreading the wealth"

Folks, I implore you to do some research..If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything1!!

John in Indiana   October 23rd, 2008 10:24 am ET

So he's for Joe the Plumber – the $40,00 unlicensed 'plumber' with NO plan to buy a business – and his support is to give 1/3 the tax relief than Obama and let the fat cats making millions their large tax breaks.

Agnes Fleming   October 23rd, 2008 10:23 am ET

There was a time I had resepct for John McCain, but this is now sounding like a broken record. I remember the 2000 presidential with George Bush when he trashed McCain, after trashing Ann Richards in the race for governor of Texas. How ironic and sad the McCain is reduced to inflicting on Barack Obama what was inflicted upon him, but he spent the last nearly 8 years letting George Bush get away with garbage. This so-called "maverick" never opened his mouth once in behalf of the people, this one who on this campaign refers to "my friends" and "country first". In no case during the last 8 years did John McCain act as a "friend" nor did he put "country first". And worse still, he selected someone as unqualified as Sarah Palin who cannot even answer a question reasonably, and we are to trust this angry old man to be our next president. God help us all, and the polar bears and wolves of Alaska.

Lauren   October 23rd, 2008 10:23 am ET

ENOUGH ABOUT JOE THE PLUMBER.

- Lauren the Obama Supporting Graphic Designer

Gary   October 23rd, 2008 10:23 am ET

While your down there, why don't you buy a retirement home. You'll need it in 2 weeks.

JG   October 23rd, 2008 10:22 am ET

Yesterday I watched the entire conversation between Joe the plumber and Sen Obama. It certainly looked like Joe was a McCain plant. Sen Obama gives a clear explanation as to why his tax pan would benfit Joe more that Sen McCain's. PLEASE go vote on Nov 4th to bring the change THE UNITED STATES of AMERICA desparately need. YOUND VOTERS-SEN OBAMA is COUNTING on YOU!!!

OBAMA\BIDEN 08!!!!

Dirty Harry   October 23rd, 2008 10:22 am ET

All I know is that I don't want my government taking more of my money out of my pocket for social programs. They have unemployment benefits and welfare already! What more must we support? I am voting McCain/Palin because they have the right stuff!

one of the 'not real Americans' in CA   October 23rd, 2008 10:22 am ET

A little too little, a little too late. So, now McCain is basically pointing out that the President with whom he voted 90% of the time was wrong on all major decisions. Interesting. McCain's judgment is shining through as a serious flaw in clear thinking, consistency, or authenticity. I guess when you are in a race to win at all costs, the motto seems to be, anything goes.

And, McCain might consider educating his running mate on the role of vice-president, and gift her with a copy of the US Constitution.

Obama/Biden 08

PoliticoPundit   October 23rd, 2008 10:22 am ET

I see more hatred here than in Campaign.

Tony   October 23rd, 2008 10:22 am ET

You can always tell when the Obamabots are scared because they turn out in huge numbers on the message boards. The tide of this election is turning, no matter how much the pollsters tilt their methods towards Democrats and no matter how many "McSame"s you throw out there.

The only change Obama is offering is Socialism, and voting Americans will say "thanks, but no thanks" on Nov. 5 because we're a nation built on hard work, not on handouts.

Bulldog   October 23rd, 2008 10:21 am ET

McCain still want's to continue the failed economic policies that favor the wealthiest Americans and have driven the largest income gap between the rich and poor ever in history. Rip on Bush all you want McCain. You aren't fooling me.

ran   October 23rd, 2008 10:21 am ET

Vote Obama/Biden and we will get our country back.

Vote early if you can and avoid the long lines and check with your state/county because some are having Saturday open for voting.

Robert   October 23rd, 2008 10:21 am ET

Enough about Joe the Plumber. I'll let you know what I think on 11/4.

who's the fool?   October 23rd, 2008 10:21 am ET

a Joe the Plumber tour? Is this guy serious? This is why he is losing. He changed his message to Change, then country first, then suspended, now its Joe the Plumber

what is it next? Comeback Joe?

Doug, Florida   October 23rd, 2008 10:20 am ET

MCCAIN/PALIN

THANKS BUT NO THANKS.

YOUR BRIDGE TO NOWHERE WILL LEAD US TO DOOM.

AGAIN THANKS BUT NO THANKS

Carlos from Illinois   October 23rd, 2008 10:20 am ET

So. It appears that Joe is actually related to one of the Keating 5 members. I initially thought that Obama went to Joe's house. That sure is the way the McCain campaign touted the exchange. Come to find out Ol' Joe sought out Obama. Hmmm...

This coming from the Loki of the political party. Me thinks something is afoul....

WHO ME?   October 23rd, 2008 10:20 am ET

Joe the plumber, aren't we done with him yet. He doesn't have a license, owes taxes, would never make more than 250,000.00. Is McCain so desparate. Has anyone disputed the claims that "joe" is related to Keating's son -in law? Wurzelbacher, is not a common name.

Kim   October 23rd, 2008 10:20 am ET

The "Joe The Plumber" dog and pony show doesn't exactly coincide well with Sarah and her family in their Saks Fifth Avenue clothes. Cindy too. McCain is trying to tell middle America how much he cares about them? Hooey!! I'm Kim the HR Professional and McCain's financial and health care proposals would devastate my middle-income family. And McCain hasn't said anything lately about our troops involved in 2 wars except "we will win" What the heck does that mean? I have a son in Iraq being shot at daily!!!

Joseph Adewole   October 23rd, 2008 10:20 am ET

When a fool or someone deaf but without proper education hears a thing, he or she will be repeating the samething everywhere, everyday and all over the places; that is the case with John McCain.

KJL   October 23rd, 2008 10:20 am ET

If you think "Joe the plumber" is one of us, here are a few facts about him.

"Joe" has no plumbing license, and he owes back taxes. "Joe" told a radical right-wing media group that he was trying to trap Obama. He told Katie Couric he had no plans to buy a business. He belonged to the kooky Natural Law Party until it disbanded. He lived in Alaska. He lived in Arizona. He is now a registered Republican, but didn't notice (or care) that his name was not spelled right on his voter card. In other words, "joe" is a flake with an agenda.

This is the guy McCain wants on his side. Not me.

ANGIE   October 23rd, 2008 10:20 am ET

Well With Paris Palin going on a 160,000 Dollar clothes shopping spree, And Daddy Warbucks owning 13 cars, and 7 Houses and being worth about 100 Million Dollars, hard to Belive they can understand the Economy or Joe the Plumbers. are there any Joe the Plumbers wives out there going on a shopping spree like that if so do tell My husband will change his career!

McCain is too old   October 23rd, 2008 10:19 am ET

Does McCain realize how pathetic and desperate he appears?

susie   October 23rd, 2008 10:18 am ET

Obama- Spread the Wealth! Don't think so.

McCain/Palin 2008

Hillary 2012

Evelyn in Altoona, PA   October 23rd, 2008 10:18 am ET

Nobody beyond Sen. McCain and his fanatical supports want to talk about Joe the Plumber. The one and only quote worth noting from Mr. Wurzelbacher is his own admission that he's "not a tax expert."

I'd like Sen. McCain to talk with potential voters about what they really have on their mind instead of just talking about Sen. McCain thinks is important.

Paula   October 23rd, 2008 10:18 am ET

What will he do tomorrow without Palin, whiles she gives a deposition in Alaska regarding her abuse of power? Maybe explaining how she will be in charge of the Senate?

Michigan Mom   October 23rd, 2008 10:18 am ET

I think it is sad that people can't see through McCain's "I'm for the little guy" claim. He and the Republican party have always fought for big business over small, the rich over the poor, the haves over the have-nots.

As I drive through economically depressed areas of my city, and see one McCain sign after another, I"m shocked and saddened. Once again the people who need true change in their lives are being lead astray by fear and smear, by promises made but
rarely kept by the Republicans.

A vote for McCain is a vote for tax cuts for Exxon, tax cuts for the wealthy, tax cuts for big business. Can Joe the Plumber really wait another 4 years for McCain's policies to trickle down? Since McCain is against "sharing the wealth," I wouldn't hold my breath Joe!

stradivarius   October 23rd, 2008 10:17 am ET

My brother in law lives in Tampa and has been helping to register new voters for months. Polls of "likely" voters don't begin to tell the whole story in FLA

maxine   October 23rd, 2008 10:16 am ET

i just heard some of his speech from florida , all he talking about is I cant want to take Sarah Palin to washington, I know how to win war and he has the scar to prove it and Joe the plumber and critizing obama. Mr. McCain please state you can get us out of the economic crisis.

joyce   October 23rd, 2008 10:16 am ET

pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
get off it
joe is dead and gone
let it rest
move on to another lie
and please
don't have the name )joe) in it

Republican Voting OBAMA   October 23rd, 2008 10:16 am ET

Vote Early and Vote Barack/Biden 08/12

Celia Cipriani   October 23rd, 2008 10:16 am ET

McCaine should just hang it up. I have nothing against him, but he has been Bushes Puppet for so many years. Bush has ruined America, keeps a war going that will never end and oh well the economy that speaks for itself. McCaine is a Vietnam Vet and was a POW and I have a lot of respect for him as he did suffer for his country. However being a solider I do not think that he would end this war any time soon. I wish him well.

AJ   October 23rd, 2008 10:16 am ET

I don't understand how a young pilot (20+) sitting in the cockpit on USS Enterprise during Cuban crisis makes McCain more qualified to handle an international crisis than Obama. These arguments/explanations are meaningless. Obama has shown the sharp mind, intelligence, and reasons why he would be better to handle such crisis than the saber rattling, war mongering McCain. And talk about Palin, she doesn't even have the intelligence to deine what an international crisis is: when asked by Griffin of CNN, she said Obama's intention to talk with Ahmedenijad of Iran, Casto of Cuba orKim of North Korea constituted an International crisis. Give me a break!!

Doug R.   October 23rd, 2008 10:16 am ET

You have to be a chump to believe this 'Joe the Plumber' thing. The man is an RNC tool who is being used by pathetic and desperate McCain as some sort of rallying cry. This Joe (not his real name) is not a licensed plumber, does not make 250K, and has not paid taxes in awhile.
McCain/ Palin = frauds and liars.

Amy   October 23rd, 2008 10:15 am ET

I think it is sad that people can't see through McCain's "I'm for the little guy" claim. He and the Republican party have always fought for big business over small, the rich over the poor, the haves over the have-nots.

As I drive through economically depressed areas of my city, and see one McCain sign after another, I"m shocked and saddened. Once again the people who need true change in their lives are being lead astray by fear and smear, by promises made but rarely kept by the Republicans.

A vote for McCain is a vote for tax cuts for Exxon, tax cuts for the wealthy, tax cuts for big business. Can Joe the Plumber really wait another 4 years for McCain's policies to trickle down? Since McCain is against "sharing the wealth," I wouldn't hold my breath Joe!

idiots for McPalin   October 23rd, 2008 10:15 am ET

Joe the Plumber is a fake, how does this work to the independents advantage??? They aren't impressed. Joe the Plumber would actually benefit from the Obama plan, this is proven. So keep using him, this will benefit the DEMS.

Bible Spice wears $5000 lipstick   October 23rd, 2008 10:15 am ET

Good luck Captain McCain!

By the way....Your First Mate Palin turned into the Iceberg not away from it. I dont think she knows which way is starboard or port side.

You need to ask her questions like a 3rd grader!

David in Wisconsin   October 23rd, 2008 10:15 am ET

Senator, how dare you talk about the powers of the vice president, when your running mate does not know them well enough to explain them to a third grader!

Abby   October 23rd, 2008 10:15 am ET

Who is advising this guy? *shakes head*

OBAMA 08

Brian Rich   October 23rd, 2008 10:15 am ET

How 'bout you kick off the "FIX THE ECONOMY" tour instead? You are again just pursuing gimmicks instead of solutions.

Next.

values   October 23rd, 2008 10:15 am ET

No way would I vote for Mccain.

Obama...08

THIS IS A SERIOUS MATTER---PLEASE MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT   October 23rd, 2008 10:14 am ET

JOE THE PLUMBER who is really Sam is John McCain's only claim to fame. McCain is so out of touch with what the American people want. I'm a New Yorker, gone through 9/11, I heard Guiliani robo call. Shouldn't Guiliani be calling his children to mend their relationship? Guiliani own children want nothing to do with this man and he is a total waste of human combustion.

My God, I had so much respect for John McCain in 2000, now I have no respect for him at all. He's running one of the most negative, insulting, down right guttery campaigns I've seen in years. That's why this year, I'm voting for Barack Obama. We need change in this country and get back the respect of other world leaders. Folks around the world actually hate America when we once had the respect of so many countries. Whatever happen to those days... I say they left at the end of the Clinton Administration.

Obama/Biden '08

Amy   October 23rd, 2008 10:14 am ET

I think it is sad that people can't see through McCain's "I'm for the little guy" claim. He and the Republican party have always fought for big business over small, the rich over the poor, the haves over the have-nots.

As I drive through economically depressed areas of my city, and see one McCain sign after another, I"m shocked and saddened. Once again the people who need true change in their lives are being lead astray by fear and smear, by promises made by rarely kept by the Republicans.

A vote for McCain is a vote for tax cuts for Exxon, tax cuts for the wealthy, tax cuts for big business. Can Joe the Plumber really wait another 4 years for McCain's policies to trickle down? Since McCain is against "sharing the wealth," I wouldn't hold my breath Joe!

Sam the Butcher   October 23rd, 2008 10:14 am ET

John the Senile (or is it John the Socialist before he became John the Populist....too many iterations) is going to talk about being for the common man without Sarah the $150K Shopper? My Friends I couldn't agree more errr I can't disagree with him errrr you guys are the most patriotic part of the country, eh.
Make less than 250K? Obama's plan is better for you.
Joe Millionaire and frequenters of Niemann Marcus and Saks pays 3% more, in other words back to Clinton levels.
Go sell stupid back on one of your McMansions. G'night John-boy.

KT   October 23rd, 2008 10:14 am ET

Did you watch the interview on MSNBC? McCain-Palin are in a nose dive and they know it. The tired lines are so old and weak, and they are grasping at anything. You almost pity them.

GO VOTE!

Craig in Kansas   October 23rd, 2008 10:14 am ET

It is time for change. It is time for Barack Obama. His is above the name calling and hateful politics. He is a gentleman politician who will change this country for the better

Obama/Biden 08/12

LIP   October 23rd, 2008 10:13 am ET

McCain can win Florida, but so many distractions fostered by the Obama campaign are making things difficult. This latest row about Palins clothes and their cost. What about Hillary and her hundreds of tailored suits that must have cost half a million. What about Michelle Obamas fondness for Cavier, Lobsters and Champagne every night ? Last, but not least, what about the $200k Obama has spent on Duct tape for Biden's mouth?
Lets get all the cards on the table folks before we start pointing fingers

Scott in Atlanta   October 23rd, 2008 10:13 am ET

Why? Whats the point? The "Make-Believe Maverick" and his tickets are liars. The people are starting to see it. Even those that really want to ignore every decency in them, and vote for McCain simply because he's more familiar to them, are starting to feel sick to the stomach of haven't to defend such vitriol and hatred.

They wake up thinking, "I know I call myself and Christian, but I have to go out and defend this man who Jesus himself would say, "Depart from me, for I never knew you.""

I wonder how Republicans can reconcile that within themselves daily.

War
Lies
Adultry
etc...

All of these issues and more are present in Mccain. How can you do it?

I know... At least he's white.

cc   October 23rd, 2008 10:13 am ET

JOE THE PLUMMER WAS AND IS A PLANT FOR A DISHONEST GOP LOSER.

CanIcallyouJoe   October 23rd, 2008 10:13 am ET

Why is this man still important?
Honestly, I'm quite astonished people still find him relevant.

Lynie   October 23rd, 2008 10:12 am ET

There is a big difference between a company that earns $250k and a person that earns $250k. I don't think that Joe The Plumber will be taking 100% of his company's earnings as a paycheck.

TF   October 23rd, 2008 10:12 am ET

You mean Sam the I'm not really a plumber and I can't really afford to buy the business I liied to Barack Obama about. Or the Sam the plumber that is realated to Charles Keating. This guy fits right into the McCain camp, lie lie lie and blame the media when you get critizied for your lies.

Mohamed from Virgina   October 23rd, 2008 10:12 am ET

McCain and Palin done , finish bye bye, don’t let them fool you; the race is over American elect there men.

Jim Schimmer   October 23rd, 2008 10:11 am ET

HAHA!
You know whats so funny..
He is trying to convince 98% of the population that a redistribution of wealth in their favor is bad...

GOOD LUCK WITH THAT..

The financial package you signed is socialism, our progressive tax system is SOCIALISM! Don't fool us McSame...

Cathy   October 23rd, 2008 10:11 am ET

Joe the plumber makes 40K a year. Sarah Palin spent 150K on 2 months worth of clothes. Does McCain really think we will believe he "feels our pain"? Give me a break!

Greg, NY   October 23rd, 2008 10:10 am ET

A 'Joe the Plumber' tour... great. Don't they realize that Joe the Plumber isn't even Joe the Plumber as they see him to be?

Joe says Obama's plan would hurt him... not true, he'd get a tax cut under Obama's plan.

Joe owes back taxes to his state.

Joe doesn't have a plumber's license.

Joe's name isn't even Joe! It's Sam.

Mick   October 23rd, 2008 10:10 am ET

My friends, Joe the Plumber, terrorist, socialist, pro America, anti America, troops, taxes, village idiot, I think that just about sums up McCain's campaign.

Linda31   October 23rd, 2008 10:10 am ET

Ugh!!! McCain is still missing the point. He is the only one talking about "Joe the Plumber" . Sad thing is, Joe benefits under Obama's plan. Is election day here?

Wally©   October 23rd, 2008 10:10 am ET

I'm getting fed up with this Joe the plumber stuff !!!

From both campaigns that is...

Just listened to the first 10 mins of his stump speech...

I really couldn't understand sometimes what he was sayin'...

So erradic !!!!

Shari, NY   October 23rd, 2008 10:10 am ET

Sorry Mr Mc., most of us have flushed that Joe story down the drain.
Now, before the Giuliani robocall story slips off the screen, just look at his facial features in the photo. Doesn’t he look like a little scamp (mischievous person)? Three marriages and fractured relationships with his children are enough reason for me to disregard him. He really belongs in that Republican jalopy with its tank on “E” and wheels falling off.

Ba-rock the Vote   October 23rd, 2008 10:09 am ET

If you think that you may not want to wait in the long lines on Nov. 4th, then you should go vote now. Don't wait. Especially those young folks out there 18-25. I know, i'm one of you, its a pain to have to deal with everyone on election day. Get it over with now. GO VOTE!

Brain in DC   October 23rd, 2008 10:08 am ET

The republicans in Washington did not care about me for 8 years. Now they care about my vote? Thanks but no thanks!
Joe

the not real america, atlanta, ga   October 23rd, 2008 10:08 am ET

McCain still doesn't get that after 8 long years of rich people's tax cuts no jobs were created, and that the Iraq war is not our battle to fight or pay for. Complete **bleep** choice of a running mate, and you get experience that doesn't matter. And it's even more particularly sad that he sold his soul to the right wing republicans to try to win this election, and at this point there is no way he can turn this election around. And this christian voting democrat can only say Praise to the Holiest of Holy, thank you LORD.

Barbara - 65 yr old white female in NC   October 23rd, 2008 10:07 am ET

Old bitter man taking his old bitter speeches everywhere.

Thanks but no thanks.

Obama/Biden '08

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